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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2113544]News mentions that the guy who mowed down a ton of people in front of Tukcom the other day was the owner of a Walking Street bar. Does anyone know which bar?[/QUOTE][URL]http://pattayaone.news/en/cost-drug-addiction-affected-pattaya-driver/[/URL]
JPs Bar is located on Soi Lucky.
[QUOTE=HectorG;2113724]"I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month".
I hope to do 6-8 girls per day! But thanks for the insight into Insomnia.[/QUOTE]Haha! You the man! I've never in my life (even as a teenager or when in my 20's) been able to come 6 tunes in a day! So.
Hats off to you! Very impressive!
At this point in my life I like to keep girls I like for 3-4 days or even 10 days. Last time in Pattaya, a girl in her mid 20's who I had originally met at Insomnia (an ex go go girl) and who had returned home to her family farm in Isaan took an overnight bus to come stay with me for 10 days, with no talk ever about money. Thai girls are very different if they are with you for days on end. And we'd still go party at Insomnia and do lots of other stuff together. And every time she went to the ladies room guys would hit on her because she was an 8.
The point being: not every single person on this board is looking ring up quantity / numbers and just sex. Although I'm not looking for a GF or any long term relationship. Just an extended GFE with girls who are pleasant to be with and have some degree of grace and class to be able to hang with them for several days. Most of them then want more. Like a real relationship and then I tell them no can do since I spend about 6 months a year traveling globally just for fun and pleasure (and the rest in the USA). And sometimes , like right now in the DR where I am , same thing . And I take one of my girls Id already met on a prior trip to an all inclusive resort for 3-5 days. Just like I am doing tomorrow when I will be checking in at a real nice all inclusive resort in Punta Cana. I might do the same on my upcoming Pattaya trip and hit an inclusive resort in Koh Chang for say 4 nights with one of the girls ...
There are many ways to have fun and enjoy life in its entirety or multi-dimensionally ( for those that like or want that ) ....
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]Looking forward to read your rest of the trip reports as well.[/QUOTE]I'll write up the best moments for sure; soon!
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]Until Thais learn to differentiate the few good eggs vs the mostly bad eggs, it will be a tough time for Indians because of the stereotyping. [/QUOTE]And, I don't blame them. We Indians have done ourselves no favors. Just expected that a few well dressed Indians may have been treated differently.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]We had a good time at CH and Windmill..[/QUOTE]Hmm. We were turned down at Windmill as well. Maybe the weekend rush.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2113575]That's an awful lot for an hotel in Pattaya. There are discounted two-bedroom villa around the same price. Get an high-rated Hotel or serviced apart around Pattaya Klang, Pattaya Nua, or just across Sukhumvhit for about 700 Baht. Add 150 a day for a motorbike rental and you will be on WS in 3 minutes, and off the hands of motorbike Taxis.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip!
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2113468]Nick, thanks for the report, especially on PP Massage since I've been meaning to check it out again.
You can get plenty of nice hotels around Pattaya for under 2200 baht. Camelot rooms should run under 1200 baht taxes included. [/QUOTE]That's what it's worth, around a 1000 baht. Unfortunately, we had booked online before we got here. Cancelling and re-booking would've been a pain.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2113468]How many guys were in your group that was rejected entry into the gogo bars? Surprised to hear this since some of the gogo bars are completely empty of customers this past week. Sorry to hear about your poor experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks BananaBoi. We were a group of 5. But, as I mentioned earlier, we were dressed to impress (shoes and shirts, LOL). Ah well, we tried.
[QUOTE=NickMehta;2113831]I'll write up the best moments for sure; soon!
And, I don't blame them. We Indians have done ourselves no favors. Just expected that a few well dressed Indians may have been treated differently.
Hmm. We were turned down at Windmill as well. Maybe the weekend rush.
Thanks for the tip!
That's what it's worth, around a 1000 baht. Unfortunately, we had booked online before we got here. Cancelling and re-booking would've been a pain.
Thanks BananaBoi. We were a group of 5. But, as I mentioned earlier, we were dressed to impress (shoes and shirts, LOL). Ah well, we tried.[/QUOTE]I too feel for you guys. You seem like decent folks with good money to spend. Did you guys try the LK metro area bars?
Some of you may know folks who have the ability to just buy out some of the walking street bars? I think then the others will think twice.
I guess complaining to the Indian Embassy in BKK or writing to the Prime Ministers office. About the discrimination. Is out the question? 😈.
And I suppose you can't deny Thais access to the go go bars in India? 😂.
Sorry, seeing that you guys at least aren't up in arms about it, I thought I'the try to make light of the situation. Next time approach the bars with each of you waving 30 k baht, in each of your hands, as you are about to enter. Seriously. Heck it's just $600 .
If it's any consolation, I've been turned away from clubs in NYC (when I was in my 20's and worked in Wall St and went wearing a pin stripe suit (because I was not good looking enough and did not have a girl (they try to manage the guy- girl ratio) and last month in Madrid, Spain, because, I think, of my age (both places also had a significant cover charge to enter). But I found another that was no 2 in Madrid that let me in with a promo coupon! So, you are not alone! Go to Brazil man. Or Colombia.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2113668]Hopefully the blanket ban from clubs like Baccarra, Peppermint and Sensations does not spread to other gogos and soapies but for how long I wonder having seen the hordes in person.[/QUOTE]Aren't these the same clubs that caters to Japanese (i don't know, i eschew them all). In that case it could be their customers indirectly causing the discrimination, not the whim of some Thai. Anyway, if you go back few pages there are the postings about white guys being ignored by stuck up biatches that prefer Japanese or Korean men because they pay more and fuck less. So better to have stayed out, spared the frustration and not have dropped a dime in these places.
To tell the opposite type of attitude, early hours today (it was really a slow night everywhere) I watched a cutie with great legs decline a couple of guys in Red Car. So I went to her and joked about that, she said it was because their opening line was "how much", which she dislikes and I agree that is so stupid and unnecessary. Some men can't tell the game difference between a disco and Soi 6, and much less between women in the same place. Another good thing about Red Car is drink prices, compare 110 baht to 160 in Lucifer, and no discount card BS. We then had dinner in a bagarid restaurant which I've mentioned before, then to my room. She was sweet and aroused, perhaps we had not the greatest of chemistry (but we both enjoyed a long pumping doggie style) or we were both tired, so we fell asleep and skipped the morning shag, that's OK even if not recommended, just like skipping breakfast. Around 10 am she left, I gave her 1 K and a ride to the nearest mototaxi stand. No money or time commitment had been mentioned before, all happened with the most friendliness, like it should be even when the experience is not stellar.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113609]LOL, I am quite a bit older than you Mr. Ent. I roll quite differently, probably to the point of being weird (from fhe POV of most guys on this board) .
But, I am disciplined when at Insomnia. I avoid regulars, obvious go go girls who are there to unwind, or Soi 6 girls. I too avoid girls in groups. And I avoid 9's and 10's (although I think I've only seen 2 10's there over several months.). And, I usually never get there before 1230 and usually stay until at least 4/5 am.
Remember I usually stay for at least 1 month. So, I am never in a hurry and I am very patient. And, I am fairly good observer and analyzer of people (I think).
And since I am quite picky, when I find one I like I usually hang with them for 3-4 days. So, I am on the opposite end of the spectrum from someone who likes go go girls or Soi 6 girls. I am not interested in doing many, just a few that I like for several days each. So, my goals are quite different. I am looking for girls I would like to be with for several days. The key question being would I want to be with this chic for several days and nights. I would not recommend my approach to anyone else, cause it is quite off the Wall.
I usually only do 6-8 girls during 1 month. I doubt too many other guys would have any interest in such an approach in Pattaya of all places. And all focused on Insomnia pretty much all the time.
However, specialization has its advantages. Learning and iterative approaches for 1 whole month allows me to focus on one set-up / design and location.... and most importantly enjoy the music, dancing and the ambiance. Cest la vie. Sometimes I get lucky and many nights I leave alone! I never ever settle. LOL.[/QUOTE]Enjoyed reading your post. We all look for different things when on tour. I try to do all that is on offer, clubs, bars, Soi 6, soaps, gogos. My last trip to Pattaya I mixed numbers with seeing one girl 4 times. However I also have done the 3 full days with a girl as well as taking girls to a resort at other times. All offer something different and that adds to the fun of the tour. I have been touring for many years in a lot of places and the girls faces and names have all faded over time. But the good thing about places like Pattaya is that there are options for everyone at different price points and quality. We are all different as are the girls so whatever works for us is our business. Some of us like the numbers game and some like a more relaxed pace. Vive LE difference!
Happy Hunting.
[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;2113943]Aren't these the same clubs that caters to Japanese (i don't know, i eschew them all). In that case it could be their customers indirectly causing the discrimination, not the whim of some Thai.[/QUOTE]IMO, the discrimination is caused by the bars being totally packed, and the Thai's belief in their racist stereotypism of Indians. White people are not discriminated by the bar for entry purposes. The girl's preferences in customer types might be a different story.
A few weeks ago, I entered Baccarra twice on 2 different nights. There was absolutely no seats available on the first level. I left; didn't want to go upstairs.
I also went to Sensations once. It was packed. I was placed next to an existing customer at a table.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;2114002]IMO, the discrimination is caused by the bars being totally packed, and the Thai's belief in their racist stereotypism of Indians. White people are not discriminated by the bar for entry purposes. The girl's preferences in customer types might be a different story.
A few weeks ago, I entered Baccarra twice on 2 different nights. There was absolutely no seats available on the first level. I left; didn't want to go upstairs.
I also went to Sensations once. It was packed. I was placed next to an existing customer at a table.[/QUOTE]Discrimination against Indians and other dark-skinned South Asians is well covered as it relates to the clubs. Another layer is that many of the best girls don't want to go with Indian customers because of either bad prior experiences (probably just a few bad apples) or heard rumors from their friends. I found out most of this relates to the belief that they smell bad, no matter how many showers they take. Why take the risk and lose face with among their friends when there is always another Japanese customer waiting.
A new negative bias I uncovered is that many of the girls now absolutely hate Korean men from Korea. Apparently they have a reputation of (1) refusing to pay if they don't finish but go over an agreed ST limit, and (2) are very rough in bed with excessive hair-pulling, spanking, etc. This view was confirmed by several girls across GoGos, soapies, Thermae, and clubs.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113799]my upcoming Pattaya trip and hit an inclusive resort in Koh Chang for say 4 nights with one of the girls ...
There are many ways to have fun and enjoy life in its entirety or multi-dimensionally ( for those that like or want that )..[/QUOTE]Inclusive resort in Thailand? Do tell. I'm familiar with Black Beards. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Traveller747;2113651]Any clinic will do or any recommendation? Do they perform a blood test to specify the amount of testosterone or one size fits all? It is only one shot, nothing else? Do you need an appointment, or do you just come in: "I want testosterone" and 5 minutes later it is over?[/QUOTE]Yes you can just walk in and ask for shot then go lie down and get it. The shot is 250 MG and I'd think one shot would be 99.99% safe I'd get my blood checked after the fourth one or I started getting aggressive / angry / wound up which are all sign of too much testosterone. And for long term I'd definitely get a Dr involved. I do TRT its a life changer if you need it.
[QUOTE=Zman429;2114050]Inclusive resort in Thailand? Do tell. I'm familiar with Black Beards. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Sorry! My bad! The inclusive resort I am going to today is in Punta Caņa.
I am not aware of any similar resorts in Koh Chang or Thailand.
I'm starting to feel sorry for the chicks around here. Maybe they don't feel sorry for themselves or maybe they are just plain used to it. Perusing the dating sites and seeing how many chicks have to put something to the effect of 100% lady, not a ladyboy, etc must suck. Imagine if you had to go around all the time and try to convince people that you are actually a man. Why did the tricksters have to saddle them with that burden.
Last week I was having dinner with some friends and one mentioned a place on LK Metro that was not to his liking and that he would never go to again. I could not wait to check it out. As soon as we finished eating, I drove directly there. I sat down and ordered my usual Sangsom with ice. A chick came up and forced herself on me. She was the kind of chicks that many on this forum rave about. Light skin, tall, rail thin, A cups, 22 years old, no kid. She asked me to buy her a drink but I told her no. I told her that I wanted to see her dance (not really dance, but work out on the pole and rings that they have on the stage). She said her turn would be next. I told her that I would get her a drink after she got finished dancing. True to my word, I bought her a drink when her 3 songs or whatever was over. After I finished my drink, I told her that I was leaving but would like to see her one day, so she gave me her Line ID.
Yesterday I got back from Phuket and hit her up rather late. She lives kind of far from me but said she would be right over. Man that chick got here in 8 minutes flat. Right before she came my security guy had brought my laundry up from out the dryer and I told him that I had a lady on the way and to let her in downstairs. (I give him 500 baht everytime I leave the country so he is constantly breaking his neck trying to help me even when I do not want.) It was 3:45 am.
As soon as she came through the door she started putting away my laundry. (I once picked up a chick that had took the bus down from Bangkok to see me and asked her to help me put my laundry away and she cursed me the fuck out and left!) She was all so happy to do it. This chick has a great personality.
So fast forward to this afternoon about 12 something we get up and do our thing again and she takes a shower. While she is in the bathroom I went to my stash and saw that I had 2100 baht on hand. I separated 1100 out for her. When I came out of the shower she had made the bed and everything. We were getting ready to walk out when she asked for money saying that she needed to pay for her room. I handed her the 1100 and she looked at it and said this is not good, can you give me 2000? I said nope. Then she hugged me and was all lovey dovey as we walked out. She offered me a ride to where ever I was going not knowing I had my own bike. She told me that she hopes to see me soon.
I understand there are different strokes for different folks, but I am not understanding the "premium" title put on chicks with her description. To me it was just like fucking any other chick, but probably worse because of those hard bones that are banging against you in certain places.
Our trip was too short to try all the gogos, next time we will.
No need to show off with currency, that's why we have Lacoste and RL right? I mean cmon guys, if you can't differentiate someone wearing a $90 polo speaking fluent English with an American accent from a tobacco spitting guy wearing walmart crew necks and can't speak a word of English, I don't buy it. They must be both blind and deaf to not see the difference. This is plain old vanilla racism.
This is why I really feel the Thai govt needs to stop giving visa on arrival to every swinging dick from India. Do you want 10 guys each spending 10 k baht a day or 100 guys spending 1 k baht each? Looks like someone made a wise decision to go for the latter.
We never could spend the money even if we wanted. How can you if you can't even get inside the best gogo bars and bar fine top talent?
I am not the guy who gets turned on by hate fucking a disinterested soapies chick so I settled with someone who showed interest even though she was not the model type.
Not beating a dead horse anymore. Time to stop whining. It is what it is.
[QUOTE=Haven123;2113900]I too feel for you guys. You seem like decent folks with good money to spend. Did you guys try the LK metro area bars?
Some of you may know folks who have the ability to just buy out some of the walking street bars? I think then the others will think twice.
I guess complaining to the Indian Embassy in BKK or writing to the Prime Ministers office. About the discrimination. Is out the question? 😈.
And I suppose you can't deny Thais access to the go go bars in India? 😂.
Sorry, seeing that you guys at least aren't up in arms about it, I thought I'the try to make light of the situation. Next time approach the bars with each of you waving 30 k baht, in each of your hands, as you are about to enter. Seriously. Heck it's just $600 .
If it's any consolation, I've been turned away from clubs in NYC (when I was in my 20's and worked in Wall St and went wearing a pin stripe suit (because I was not good looking enough and did not have a girl (they try to manage the guy- girl ratio) and last month in Madrid, Spain, because, I think, of my age (both places also had a significant cover charge to enter). But I found another that was no 2 in Madrid that let me in with a promo coupon! So, you are not alone! Go to Brazil man. Or Colombia.[/QUOTE]
How many here witnessed it? I am sure the regulars have seen it quite a few times. The bell ringing and all the girls are tapping on everything they could. It was really LOUD and the girls were dead serious going about it. What exactly are their trying to do? Later when I asked my barfine she said it was a lucky prayer being performed for a good nights business and they do it daily in the earlier part of the night.
I was flabbergasted and never in a million years I would have imagined prayers being offered inside a strip club.