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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1433121]My rain 4 favorite said she will go to my Asoke hotel. Thank you lord. God bless. But she put restrictions on the times I can barfine her. LOL. She was explaining why but I couldn't really follow her line of reasoning, I try again to see what she was saying.
What I would give to know what the girls think about us. LOL.[/QUOTE]Dude, I think it's obvious what she thinks of you. And it ain't pretty.
Why some guys let these hookers walk all over them is a mystery to me.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1433475]Girsl Attitudes arent awful (Maybe they are-but many are ok-does take work to find one you like). Yours is- you want perfection. LOL. You live here you know the game at the Rainbows. Short time is short time- pornstar experience not on the table, bad value, yadda yadda yadda.
This is how its playing out. Maybe she figured since she had to travel VERY FAR (her wording) , she doesn't know exact location of hotel-it really isn't very far. 3.5 minute walk to Terminal 21, to make it worthwhile she would slot me in her downtime (Start of shift).
Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of that given timeslot, so I haven't had a barfine in a week and a half.
The kicker is when I do show up she is usually available to be barfined (no customer). Endgame-she missed out of 2 barfines from me. We both end up as losers![/QUOTE]Man, you are still catering to her and that is the problem. I do live here, so I don't have to cater to working girls. I did not move here to cater to working girls. I expect them to cater to me, which most all did for years, until more and more dudes started deferring to them as they do to women in the West. Now we have working girls who think the customer should cater to them, not the other way around.
Won't go to Asoke? Give me a break. It is at worst a 10 min cab ride in traffic. They expect to hit the ST Hotel in Nana for 15. 20 min and make 2k-3k baht. The amazing thing is dudes allow this. And yes, it is the customer that is creating this attitude, not the gal. GoGos were a wild amount of fun when I moved here. Making out with gals you bought drinks for. Getting hammered with gals in the bars, gals wanting to go LT, etc. Now, meh! Sorry an Isaan girl who is a 7 in looks (about the best you will find in any gogo) and really is not all that skilled in the sack, and wants to hurry on top of it. Give me a break.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1433471]I think these girls are brilliant. They're fun, silly, cute, affectionate, bright, inquisitive and they are choosing to do what they do often for their families. It's funny, in the western press these girls are portrayed as victims but they're actually strong girls who deserve nothing but utmost respect.[/QUOTE]Simply continuing the cycle of poverty really. Big regional differences in Thailand. Isaan,"send the kid to work as soon as we can so they can send back money. Then we are on easy street." The North and South,"let's do all we can to get our kids through Uni so they will have it better than we do."
I was always floored when these gals would say,"have to take care of family." I would tell them to take care of themselves first. Save their money, start a biz, etc. If mom and dad want money, tell them to come to BKK and service foreigners.
Off to foodland for some breakfast fare and if I can find something to cum on, all the merrier.
Scope the area out and about to return home when I see big naturals on a light skin girl. It's a wrap.
She instantly accepts my 500 baht and bring her to my room.
Another druggie. I am but have to get even better at identifying these girls who play with ice and cocaine because I think they might just take 200 baht.
She has a belly but I'm actually digging her cute face, huge round ass and juicy thighs to go with those sloppy big ole titties.
Unfortunately my first stinky thai pussy and in general first stinky pussy in awhile. Guess that should be expected if you are lucky enough to spot something fuckable in nana at 5am.
Girl has been working at one of those outdoor bars from S3 to S7 and don't want to try to imagine the type of dick I'm following on this one but would recommend her service.
Has a house over $4M in Chiang Mai so she gets paid.
Another 1 for the resume when I apply for hell.
BKK Report.
I had a short 2 nighter in BKK last w / e.
Stayed at the Woraburi in Soi 4 (Nana) which was good value at less than 1000 THB a night, so close to the action.
Saturday afternoon had an early look in the Biergarden at around 1pm. 1 or 2 looked promising but decided to pass after a couple of beers.
Went to the new Hillary bar in Soi 4 (used to be Strykers which is now further down the Soi) and ended up with a girl. 30 years old, for a couple of hours who's spec fitted the bill. A nice couple of pops in 2 and half hours, plenty of BBBJ, multiple positions, no A for 1500 THB.
In the evening I did a bit of a crawl around Nana and ended up in Rainbow 2 where there were some very nice looking entertainers, Mandarin had some nice lookers too. Took a 24 year old for 30000 THB LT from R2, no CIM or A but everything else on offer. A nice GFE experience slow and gentle and certainly would repeat there with their selection.
Sunday afternoon took a stroll down to Soi 26/24 around 2pm. Was going to try Addict but the girls I wanted were already booked but a new place and adding new girls since my visit.
Ended up in Mango, report will be added in the relevant MP section.
In the evening went to a few of the older haunts like Morning Night with the intention of going back to R2.
Instead I BF'the from there, a lovely who was just great company in and out of the bar, one of those times you just click and we really did have a good laugh before heading back to the hotel.
She was another GFE but a bit raunchier than my previous Beer Bar BF, took CIM but no A she was very slim with ample tits for her size which allowed a session of tit fucking as well as all the usual positions. 2500 THB for LT and she left at midday as I had to get out of the hotel for my 3 nighter in Pattaya.
All in all quieter than I expected after not being in town for a year but certainly plenty of choice.
[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1433471]I really do appreciate it when people take time to leave positive comments, it makes all of my effort worthwhile. You might like to know that I posted similar diaries in the Philippines section of this website.I'm really glad you identified with that comment. I think these girls are brilliant. They're fun, silly, cute, affectionate, bright, inquisitive and they are choosing to do what they do often for their families. It's funny, in the western press these girls are portrayed as victims but they're actually strong girls who deserve nothing but utmost respect.[/QUOTE]Seen of course your Philippines and Cambodia reports. Better than National Geographic.
On your last paragraph I beg to differ a bit.
We are surely not at level of slavery or human traffick (as in some cases happens in both FE and EE) , and in some cases girls are happy to do what they do (you can see this by the approach and sort of enjoyment they have on these P4P encounters, not coming only from the $$ earnings) But I still think for some of them it is a sort of compromise in life.
Lack of education and working opportunities direct some of these girls in being providers for the trade, but I am sure that some will be ready to change for a more normal job.
Fact is that some of them are not prepared to a normal working life as lack of the minimum education or of the basic mental preparation.
Working means also following more strict rules than working at a bar or in a MP.
Some of them cannot interact with basic english to progress into some better jobs. So getting into the P4P job is a compromise.
Some do it with good approach and some do it a bit careless and will not get the best out of it.
But this happens also in normal jobs.
Accepting the job, whatever job it is, helps in standing also the bad sides of it.
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1433481]Guys are not paying for a brand name. The brand name Rainbow 4 get customers in the door I do agree. But guys end up paying for the individual girl they like.
Any fool can see see not all Rainbow 4 girls are of the same tier. Some are very beautiful. Many above aveverage looks. A whole lot of average looking. And the CABOOSE girls who bring up the rear. LOL. Personally I don't know what the CABOOSE types get, never did research as I don't want them to get their hope too high in that I might barfine them-I have no problem asking a good earner what they charge just to get a feel for pricing.[/QUOTE]Rainbow 4 is the "brand name" that street girls of the same quality & for 1/3 the price don't have.
All of the following is included in the Rainbow 4 "brand name" that isn't included with street girls:
1. A chair to sit in.
2. Some nudity.
3. Air con.
4. Drinks served.
5. Roof over your head.
6. Music.
7. Lame assed dancing show.
That's what you're paying extra (3X as much) for when you pick up a hot gogo based hooker instead of a hot street based sex worker. Not a better looking girl.
Some guys think, without any proof I've seen, that they are also getting a cleaner girl as far as STIs & drugs are concerned, if they take a gogo lady instead of a street girl. They might assume R4 girls are tested for STDs & outdoor SWs are not. I've had a dozen street girls tested for HIV who were 100% all negative. OTOH Stickman did report some gogo prostitutes still working while HIV positive & there have been posts re a few street girls doing the same.
Some also think they can make the gogo girl to be held accountable, unlike the street girl. Do you think the gogo manager will listen to your complaint of poor service or attitude or not living up to what was agreed to? Is it worth the bother? Does this accountability equate to better service? From reports I've seen most are dissatisfied with gogo girls performance in the sack.
With the gogos you have to pay a BF (600 baht & up) & drink upfront before you get any bed time. With street girls it's always pay everything after, so if the girl sucks the ball is in your court. If she causes problems, presumably hotel security has her I. D card & will deal with her. I've never had any serious issues. Better to waste 1000 on a poor performer than 3000 baht.
R4 costs more because they can get away with it & they need to do so due to their overhead costs, like advertising, tea money, utilities, employees wages, etc. Street workers don't have these costs, so can charge less.
Don't fool yourself into thinking hot gogo SWs are any hotter than hot street SWs. The only difference is the price & what comes with the brand name.
So if you want to blow 2, 500 baht ST plus BF plus drinks for the brand name R4 hottie, feel free. Others will dish out only 1000 to 1500 for the no name brand street girl who is equally attractive.
Personally, I'm going to follow this advice: "Save your money".
[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1433395]Had standards, eh. You mean they wanted to use a condom? For a mere 1000 baht or 30 USD what were you expecting from a SYT, BB anal with PSE? If you prefer, brandname R4 across the street gives you exactly the same quality of girl & dead duck experience for 3X the price. Or you could offer the NCP lady a tip or a decent wage & be surprised at what suddenly happens to her "standards". I can assure you a 1 hour BBBJ would not be out of the realm of infinite possibilities. Try getting that from a gogo girl.[/QUOTE]I never ask around for BB and I ask them for the price so I can estimate their interest if any, I might bargain from 2k to 1. 5k, lower is useless. If the initial is over 2k I just pass to the next one. They are freelancers so they are free to not deal with people in shorts if they choose not to. Hence standards, they like handsum men just as much as the next girl, I accept that and will not beg or try to bribe her with drinks.
[QUOTE=Gorgon;1433665]I never ask around for BB and I ask them for the price so I can estimate their interest if any, I might bargain from 2k to 1. 5k, lower is useless. If the initial is over 2k I just pass to the next one. They are freelancers so they are free to not deal with people in shorts if they choose not to. Hence standards, they like handsum men just as much as the next girl, I accept that and will not beg or try to bribe her with drinks.[/QUOTE]My response was to your comment about 1000 baht SYT street working girls at NCP. Now you're talking about less than 1500 being impossible? Sorry, you've lost me.
Furthermore, your prices in this quote are gogo girl prices, not streetwalker prices, yet you refer to them as "freelancers" which is not normally used of employees of gogos, but rather of independent girls who have no boss, such as those on the street or in places like Beergarden restaurant and Thermae coffee shop / bar. Perhaps you can see my confusion re your post.
As to the matter of the mysterious girls you are referring to having "standards", it seems you are saying now they rejected you because you wore shorts or were not considered "handsome", even though you claimed to have succeeded in boinking these same girls. How can that be? Did you forget to comb your hair on the day of your rejection, while you did comb it on the days you banged them?
[QUOTE=Harold444; 1433523]Mr G.
I'm agreeing with you again. LOL. How anyone can think being a prostitute is a good thing is mind boggling. Sure we have fun but for the girls its a dead end like no other.
With my current favorite I told her why don't you skim off some of the money you send to momma to take care of yourself. She said no can. She's quite an earner so I figured she could help momma and herself, not just momma![/QUOTE]Amen. And let us remember, it is a choice they make. Gals NEP are not sold into the game. It is the easy way out. With less than 1% unemployment gals can make a living doing other things. Also student loans are readily available, but many are too locked into their useless parasitic families. I would never take care of a deadbeat family.