Angeles City

[QUOTE=NewImage;2293689]Been doing some prelim research on Angeles Bars for maiden trip. Appears some bars are more Korean focused so best left alone. Rest of bars appears 3000 bar fine is standard and drinks in the 75 to 125 peso range.
You could say that almost everywhere in PI is Korean focused, but then again that would be generalizing too much. It is true that the girls are asian focused, light skin tone, or blond hair blue eyes, so if you are korean, japanese, or chinese the girls see it as an easier night. They prefer the three threes. Too them it is the easiest to service, so girls have preferences.

Also larger bars Atlantis, Flamingo, Club Asia and Lancelot obviously have more choice.
In general you could conclude that, but what is more important is how many can you see at a time as opposed to how many total in staff.

Question 1- Lady drinks I would presume are more costly?
Yes..figure about double depending upon time of day and if it is a single, double ladies drink, or premium.

Question 2. Generally speaking seeing BF and drink prices are similar, is it a case of visiting each bar and see what you find in each? Read Q bar, Red bar, Shooterz small or poor selection.
Seeing each bar is SOP, but also visiting them at different times (shifts) will also be a plus

Question 3. Prefer dealing direct with girl. Is there any room for 1500 to bar and then 1500 to girl later? If you pay 3000 straight up what incentive is there for girl to give good performance.
Yes, get out of fields and head up the road (afternoon is best). The 3K is the bar fine, there is still a tip to consider if you want incentives.

Question 4. Bar girls preferable to FL as at least if do runner can go back to bar but have often found in Phil mamasans just play dumb so no great benefit of taking bar girl over FL. Intend to use Wechat et al as well.
When you find a bar you like, buy the mama a drink)s), make friends, ask her recommendations. Get her cp number, you can use her as your pimp.

Question 5. Is Kokomo's food relatively good as seems like good spot to sit and peruse talent.
Its not good, but its not bad. No real need in AC to hang out looking for girls walking by, when you can just go see them 24/7

Appreciate any feedback.

NI.[/QUOTE]Hope that helps a little.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2294813]Question 3. Prefer dealing direct with girl. Is there any room for 1500 to bar and then 1500 to girl later? If you pay 3000 straight up what incentive is there for girl to give good performance.
Yes, get out of fields and head up the road (afternoon is best). The 3K is the bar fine, there is still a tip to consider if you want incentives.

Hope that helps a little.[/QUOTE]Transporter is correct. However, don't get the impression that a substantial tip is required. The girl gets a portion of the BF so any tip is to say thanks but not essential.

I gave no tip to the girl that did a runner on me and got no complaints. She didn't bat an eye lid as she did nothing to deserve one.

2-300 p says "thanks"; 500 p says "that was great"; 1000 p would be after you needed three days to recover.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2292273]Now that would be so dang easy! I thought he would be able to figure that out.[/QUOTE]I always thought they overcharge you for SIMs and plans in the airports, which is why I avoided setting up my SIM and Grab on the spot. Also it takes time to do that, which can also cause you to miss your next shuttle and / or Genesis bus. Don't just assume people are dumb Some of us can actually estimate times and plan ahead.

Anyways, I ended up buying a SIM once I got on Fields. Turns out it's about the same. I believe in NAIA they push the 300 p plan. On Fields it's like 50 p for the SIM and 100 p per week on Globe.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2295331]I always thought they overcharge you for SIMs and plans in the airports, which is why I avoided setting up my SIM and Grab on the spot. Also it takes time to do that, which can also cause you to miss your next shuttle and / or Genesis bus. Don't just assume people are dumb Some of us can actually estimate times and plan ahead.

Anyways, I ended up buying a SIM once I got on Fields. Turns out it's about the same. I believe in NAIA they push the 300 p plan. On Fields it's like 50 p for the SIM and 100 p per week on Globe.[/QUOTE]My point was to the other poster that you could figure out the process of buying the sim and load at the airport, get on the Genesis bus and download the Grab while on the bus.

BTW, you can store the credit card info on your grab account and easily replenish your balance.

I suggest before you leave Philippines that you buy an extra sim and 100 load card to use on your next trip. I usually leave with P5000 in various denominations so I don't have to exchange funds right away on my next trip. Also I have 3 days of vitamin V on hand.

Have fun in Phil and take your lunch sir.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2295532]My point was to the other poster that you could figure out the process of buying the sim and load at the airport, get on the Genesis bus and download the Grab while on the bus.

BTW, you can store the credit card info on your grab account and easily replenish your balance.

I suggest before you leave Philippines that you buy an extra sim and 100 load card to use on your next trip. I usually leave with P5000 in various denominations so I don't have to exchange funds right away on my next trip. Also I have 3 days of vitamin V on hand.

Have fun in Phil and take your lunch sir.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your input. I wasn't clear about it in my post but I have bought a SIM card at the airport before and I thought they overcharged, like most things at the airport. It turns out to not really be the case. Although if I remembered correctly, they did sell me more than I needed before. Finally I ended up not needing Grab since the trike had enough room for me and a luggage on the passenger side.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2295532]BTW, you can store the credit card info on your grab account and easily replenish your balance.

I suggest before you leave Philippines that you buy an extra sim and 100 load card to use on your next trip.[/QUOTE]This is what I do with Grab: I just have my CC in the App. That way each ride is charged directly to my card and there is no need to top up or burn up cash on hand. Of course, this may not be the best if your particular card charges extra fees or would trigger fraud detection.

I keep the same sim for when I return. They last for 12 months before thetly become invalid and are blocked. Upon arrival I'm at the booth long enough to hand over 500 p for a reload card and that's it, I'm on my way. I do like the idea of buying a top up card on exit for use next time.

After you have a sim, both Globe and Smart do offer online top ups from their web site if you register your phone number. This can be the easiest as your number can be topped up at home before even getting on the plane. Third parties also provide this but at a substantial mark up.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2295331]I always thought they overcharge you for SIMs and plans in the airports, which is why I avoided setting up my SIM and Grab on the spot. Also it takes time to do that, which can also cause you to miss your next shuttle and / or Genesis bus. Don't just assume people are dumb Some of us can actually estimate times and plan ahead.

Anyways, I ended up buying a SIM once I got on Fields. Turns out it's about the same. I believe in NAIA they push the 300 p plan. On Fields it's like 50 p for the SIM and 100 p per week on Globe.[/QUOTE]My last 20 or so trips, I have used the free Smart SIM offered at the airport Smart booth (as you depart customs) and paid for a 500 P load card, that they load and then they also load the current 14-day unlimited data and 7-day talk-text plans and I normally have around 50 P left. I also get 50 free texts for loading the 500 P load card. I watch them and they show me the text as it arrives when they load the 500 P load card and when they enter the plans. The Smart booths have the most current plans and in all my trips I have not had to buy any more load before departing.

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I keep the same sim for when I return. They last for 12 months before they become invalid and are blocked. [/QUOTE]I was not aware that the sim card only lasts for 12 months, if you get a new sim before or after it becomes invalid do you have to get a new phone number or can you keep the old one? I will return to Philippines after my current sim is one year old. I really don't understand why the sim should ever become invalid as long as some load remains on the phone but this is the Philippines so to me just another illogical thing. I am curious to see if the new 3rd phone company, coming in the future, will have the same business plan as Smart and Globe which is put all their effort into selling load and next to zero effort into improving their processes. IMHO Smart and Globe are oligopoly marketing company's with a very minor and neglected side business of telecommunications.

I'll be heading back to AC for a couple days between work days and I think I've figured out how it works as far as finding girls etc. My question now is how open are the barfine girls to taking pics if asked? I don't plan on sharing them with anyone its just for my own memories. Most girls I've been with already almost always ask to turn down the lights as soon as they finish their shower so it makes me feel like they wouldn't want to take pics. I've been with a couple lookers that I wish I had gotten a selfie with, even just fully clothed.

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2295628]I was not aware that the sim card only lasts for 12 months, if you get a new sim before or after it becomes invalid do you have to get a new phone number or can you keep the old one? [/QUOTE]I use Google Fi. It is a little more expensive but I have one US number that works around the world. I have used in the Philippines, Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia, Colombia, Peru, Canada, Singapore, Japan, Australia, New Zealand and of course the US. My service is active before my plane finishing taxing. I carry one phone. I don't have to fumble with sim cards. I have US based English speaking tech support. My bill is simple, charged to my credit card It is rarely more than $30 month. Now you can use many phones with the service, but check the site for compatibility or any limitations your phone may have.

It may not be for everyone including penny pinchers or people who don't want Filipinas having your US number. But it is a no-brainer perfect plan for me. If you are interested here is a link that saves you $20 if you sign up. You can just check the link to see the specifics.

[URL]https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT[/URL]

[QUOTE=ForkTruck;2295628]I was not aware that the sim card only lasts for 12 months, if you get a new sim before or after it becomes invalid do you have to get a new phone number or can you keep the old one? I will return to Philippines after my current sim is one year old. I really don't understand why the sim should ever become invalid as long as some load remains on the phone but this is the Philippines so to me just another illogical thing.[/QUOTE]Both the sim card and the load on it have a shelf life of 12 months. In practice I've found that that date isn't rigidly enforced for the card and they can magically come to life when fresh load is added. Once the load is gone it's gone. It's another arguement for getting the kiosk girls to help out as they can sort out any issues that might arise there and then.

Any new sim will have a new number. I guess there would be a way to keep old numbers but I've never investigated it. If I do get a new number, it's never a huge deal as the girls themselves loose and rotate cards frequently so are use to it. Also, I do most of my calling and messaging on apps which don't care what sim is providing the data connection. You can update the number shown but it's not mandatory. The girls will still see it's your username and profile pic who is calling.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2295642]I use Google Fi. It is a little more expensive but I have one US number that works around the world.[/QUOTE]So if a girl in Manila calls or SMSs your number is she paying international call rates?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2295651]So if a girl in Manila calls or SMSs your number is she paying international call rates?[/QUOTE]They all use Whatsapp or Viber. Interviewed dozen of girls I met on line and none of them or the bar girls I keep in touch with didn't have one, the other or both.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2295657]They all use Whatsapp or Viber. Interviewed dozen of girls I met on line and none of them or the bar girls I keep in touch with didn't have one, the other or both.[/QUOTE]Not all. Some use sms and or Facebook messenger. Facebook is free data on their cp.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2295651]So if a girl in Manila calls or SMSs your number is she paying international call rates?[/QUOTE]I think so. Most don't have enough load to sms international. Almost 10-15 pesos a text.