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[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2575299]... There is always one newbie in our crew who is worried that Brazilian women are too big in the bunda for him....[/QUOTE]For any newbie who likes anal Brazil is a windfall. Nothing more lustful than f..king a big bunda garota in the ass.
Last time I checked in, I had tried out some expensive Tier 1 termas (MC and Centaurus) to great success. Since then, I visited Solarium and 4 x4 as well. While there weren't any squirting orgasms, I will still say that the service was pretty good. Overall, I had no complaints with the attractiveness of the girls or their service. I even went back to Centaurus to account for the variance of how otherworldly my first time there was and I had another great experience, though not as good as the first. In my view, at the tier 1 termas, I would recommend hitting them up around the time that the Brazilian workday ends (seems 6-7 pm is a good time). I never had an issue finding girls I liked in the 7-8/10 range. I saw a few girls that were in the 9/10 but there were getting gobbled up constantly by other guys so it may be hard to time things with those girls. In terms of cost, I felt that Centaurus was way too expensive in retrospect since the other termas provide similar value for a few hundred less Real. But, I did have one of best experiences of the trip there so I can't complain.
Jady.
As part of first post, I told you all about the amazing experience I had at Centaurus with a woman named Morena (later gave me her real name of Jady). I really liked our chemistry so I got her Whatsapp and she visited me twice more for some fun pernoites. It's always great to spend time with WG where you question if she actually really likes you (remember, its her job so don't take it too seriously). Eating companion, interesting life story, cuddling while watching netflix, and mindblowing sex; definitely a few great nights. We never talked about price during the night but I ended up giving her 500 per night before she would leave. I'm sure some will say I overpaid, but I feel that is a perfect amount for a real pernoite (not just a night / morning 2 banger).
Prives.
Alright, here is where I can preface everything by stating that this is MY OPINION. I read a lot of posts here extolling the virtues of the prives and cheap termas. They talked of grand journeys to find the hidden diamond that would cost you half what you paid at the tier 1 termas. What they failed to truly mention is that it really is a journey. I'm sorry but the quality of the girls was noticeably worse than the good termas. Even worse in my view were the amenities. You are talking about tiny phonebooths for doing the deed and overall rubbish bedding. I tried guys, I really tried. I ended up sampling at Onix Terapia (more on that later) and at a Centro terma with a lower level co-worker and I just couldn't enjoy. I prefer not to be reminded of the abject povert many WGs face while we pinch pennies or how bad working conditions can be. And that shouldn't be surprising when you are paying the equivalent of 30-50 USD for a nut. If you want good amenities and simplicity, I'd recommend one of the tier 1 termas (not Centaurus unless you want to shell out even more). Their facilities were passably good and comparable / slightly better than most average fishbowls in Bangkok. In terms of service, I will say that it was pretty good. The girls are not as into it and the veneer of authenticity is much more transparent, but the service was good, nonetheless.
Onix Terapia.
I just wanted to note that I tried out Vitoria due to her good reviews by others and I would 100% agree with the assessment. She is one of the few girls in that side of the game that spoke good English and she looked great. It is an absolute shame that she is working at those facilities instead of playing at the online game. She could easily pass for a BarraVips girl and definitely has that capability. I never got her number and I have no interest in going back but if any of you ever go there, I'd give her the advice to pay for a photoshoot, put "english speaker" on her profile, and rake in the cash. But maybe she goes for the simpler high volume, lazy bang you can get away with at the prives.
Online Escorts.
For someone like myself, I found my sweet spot in the online game. I am staying at Pestana and I have no problem bringing these girls in. Hell, they have come straight to my door without me even having to leave the room. No fuss, no extra costs, just a simple validation call to your room from the girls to make sure you are there. I was never quoted more than 500 R / HR which seems to be a fair price for 9-10/10 level girls. They give fantastic service and you can enjoy it in your own room. For the online escorts, use GPArena to read Brazilian reviews. It's a great way to ensure you are not picking a dud and I never had one bad experience. A special note, it took me awhile to hit up Julie Prado on BarraVips but this girl was probably my favorite. To me, she is 10/10 and really went wild. She doesn't speak a lick of English and rarely responds to Spanish speakers because she is normally very, very busy from Brazilian customers. So she may not respond to you in a timely fashion and probably won't respond at all if you text in English.
Extra Thoughts.
There has been a running debate between Thailand or Brazil and I don't really care to think about it because the women are so different in looks. I like both so I think it best to hit up both on rotation. I do find Rio more enjoyable as a destination because of the beach and weather (Thailand feels super muggy sometimes). The only caveat is that Rio really doesn't cater to tourists in the way that SEA does. By no means are tourists not liked or unable to get around, but English is not very common here. In SEA, most service workers understand some level of English so it is easy to feel comfortable. This even extends to the WGs since Rio seems to have a pretty vibrant local community. Essentially, a sizable portion of the high quality talent in Rio had no English knowledge which means you are probably not getting in the door there. It's not like Japan with the racism (nothing is that bad), but it does feel like there is a gap in Rio for foreign mongers due to language and their own local community that supports the top talent. I came down for a bit of work and was taken by banking industry co-workers to a "local" terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water. Suffice it to say that the women were model / porn actress level with an associated price tag to boot. Some of our more frugal members here would be convulsing in anger but it was definitely a great experience if you have the money and the "in" to get into the door. That whole story was mostly just to highlight a major difference I see in Rio compared to SEA or the US, top level talent advertises openly and are available to anyone who can pay.
1.) Ask the airbnb host directly before booking.
2.) $2 to $5 USD depending on time of day.
3.) Get the address ahead of time and look for the numbers on the buildings when walking past.
4.) No, I used BarraVIP exclusively in Rio but Private55 is also generally reliable. R500 for an hour. Top tier girls in the city for the most part.
5.) Tinder is great in Rio. Say you're an (insert nationality here) in Rio for a long time and maybe add some dollar signs if you're looking for pros, remove the dollar signs if you aren't. I met many non-pros in Rio, mostly at bars though.
6.) There's a member on the board who runs a WhatsApp group for meetups. If you post decent reports on ground he may reach out to add you.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2575398]Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.
1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.
4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.
5) How is Tinder in Rio? I'm 41 in great shape (not to sound like I'm full of my self but lets face it that matters sometimes) I have great luck with meeting girls in my own city in the US and even non working girls while I was in Thailand. I'm hoping I can meet a regular girl to show me around or even a working girl if she doesn't charge me $400 a day. I'm thinking my lack of Portuguese my cause me to strike out there.
6) ok last question. When I went to Thailand for the first time there was a line group to meet up with other board members who were there at the same time. Anything like that for Brazil on line or whatapp?
Ok please don't rip on me to hard for asking newbie questions, I really did do hours of reading before I made this post and after my trip I will make a first time trip report to help out other new guys.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2575653]I read a lot of posts here extolling the virtues of the prives and cheap termas. They talked of grand journeys to find the hidden diamond that would cost you half what you paid at the tier 1 termas. What they failed to truly mention is that it really is a journey. I'm sorry but the quality of the girls was noticeably worse than the good termas. Even worse in my view were the amenities. You are talking about tiny phonebooths for doing the deed and overall rubbish bedding. I tried guys, I really tried.[/QUOTE]No worries, nobody expects a newbie to be able to find gems in privées. Nobody said it was going to be simple. Some mongers, the "high-rollers", go to T1 termas and do their thing. Pay expensive and think they hit the jackpot. Other mongers hit the privées. Try out a few and find the result satisfying. To really find the gems, the perfect fresh newbies with 10 points bodies that starts their career in a simple privé, this takes hard work.
Some days can pass without I meeting any gems. Then suddenly I strike a small, no famous privê, with a bunch of perfect gems. Then it's time to act. Try them all out in a few days and get phone numbers. God knows I entered privées with several newbie gems, tried one and the next time the others are gone to some exclusive casa. My preference are those who GPS that started the same day as I visit the privê. As being the first customer it's good to be to gentle and show your appreciation. These girls will never forget their first customer.
Sorry for interrupting the veterantalk. Carry on!
[QUOTE=TiaVoyage25;2575677]1.) Ask the airbnb host directly before booking.
2.) $2 to $5 USD depending on time of day.
3.) Get the address ahead of time and look for the numbers on the buildings when walking past.
4.) No, I used BarraVIP exclusively in Rio but Private55 is also generally reliable. R500 for an hour. Top tier girls in the city for the most part.
5.) Tinder is great in Rio. Say you're an (insert nationality here) in Rio for a long time and maybe add some dollar signs if you're looking for pros, remove the dollar signs if you aren't. I met many non-pros in Rio, mostly at bars though.
6.) There's a member on the board who runs a WhatsApp group for meetups. If you post decent reports on ground he may reach out to add you.[/QUOTE]Hi mate,
Also a newbie here. And also looking threw a lot of pages and doing searches but can't find the info I'm looking for.
I'm used to Thailand but I'll be going to Brazil next year instead because of Thailand being tooo fucked up ATM.
But when I'm in Thailand I prefer all nighters (LT) instead of short time (ST) but there I know the prices and so on.
But can't really find it here.
So what is the average price span if I want to take a girl and spend the night with her?
And of course I understand that it can be a lot of difference but in a ballpark area.
Going to stay a month in Brazil and thinking about 2-3 weeks in Rio and maybe one week in Patel or what's it called up north.
Best regards.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2575398]Ok before I get attacked for asking questions I did go back and read about 60 pages of post over the last week and a half. I did post once before and based on feed back from a few nice members I have decided to stay in CocaCabana for my first visit although It sounds like I ill bed spending a lot of time in Centro. So a couple more questions.
1) Have any of you had problems bringing a girl back to an Airbnb. I have a nice size budget 150 usd per night but so many hotels that I have written have told me I can't have any visitors. The few that have said they are ok just don't seem like super nice places to stay.
2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.
4) Have any of you used PhotoAcompanhantes to find online escorts? Some seems very hot like 150-400 real. Are most legit or fake profiles.[/QUOTE]1. If that's your hotel budget and you want to stay at a nice place, stay at JW Marriott. It seems no one has had any problems bringing back guests there.
2. Everyone should figure out the subway. Google Maps will tell you where to get on and where to get off. Later in the evening, avoid the subway.
3. Mongers in Thailand would say "TIT" This is Thailand. Well TIB. Brazilian sex venues don't have flashy signs implying girls and / or sex is available. Many times the door front is very discreet. Massage places? The main deal is prives although terapeuticas might offer sex without spelling that out. Many don't offer sexual intercourse. Prives are usually in office buildings and not always well-marked. You need to know the room number so you don't roam around floors knocking on random office doors.
4. Avoid PhotoAcompanhantes.
Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2575399]Indeed, Vagabundo concurs.
Vagabundo hereby challenges Zebrastripes to co-author "Hemingway v Conrad in Rio" a forthcoming novel.
Kind of like Blues Brothers 2: men in black in Rio de Janeiro.[/QUOTE]Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.
Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.
Zebra.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2575653]Last time I checked in, I had tried out some expensive Tier 1 termas (MC and Centaurus) to great success. Since then, I visited Solarium and 4 x4 as well. Overall, I had no complaints with the attractiveness of the girls or their service. I even went back to Centaurus to account for the variance of how otherworldly my first time there was and I had another great experience, though not as good as the first. In my view, at the tier 1 termas, I would recommend hitting them up around the time that the Brazilian workday ends (seems 6-7 pm is a good time). I never had an issue finding girls I liked in the 7-8/10 range.
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Jady.
As part of first post, I told you all about the amazing experience I had at Centaurus with a woman named Morena (later gave me her real name of Jady). I really liked our chemistry so I got her Whatsapp and she visited me twice more for some fun pernoites. It's always great to spend time with WG where you question if she actually really likes you (remember, its her job so don't take it too seriously). Eating companion, interesting life story, cuddling while watching netflix, and mindblowing sex; definitely a few great nights. We never talked about price during the night but I ended up giving her 500 per night before she would leave. I'm sure some will say I overpaid, but I feel that is a perfect amount for a real pernoite (not just a night / morning 2 banger).[/QUOTE]Hey theDerilious,
I enjoyed reading your RJ retrospective. It reminded a lot of my own recent trip experiences. For example, I too had a wonderful in-house session with Morena (Jady) at Centaurus. I would have liked seeing her again at my hotel, but unfortunately, I ran out of trip time. We are still in touch, so maybe I will see her again when I return to RJ in October.
I whole heartedly agree with your assessment on RJ Termas. I liked Solarium the best and went their 3 times. Ha Ha. But I am looking forward to checking out MC and 4 x 4 next time. I also went to Black Pearl, a favorite of an RJ expat BM, but either I went there too early or the place is not very good because the quality was not there, and neither were very many customers when I was there on a Saturday night just after the lockdown ended.
There was only a week while I was in RJ that the Prive's were officially open, so I chose to go to only 1 Prive by the name of RJMassagem in Barra. I choose RJMassagem because they were basically the only establishment I saw with good looking girls on their website. [URL]https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/team-barra-da-tijuca/[/URL].
I had a passionate Nuru session with Clara, but to my surprise, it turned out that RJMassagem is not a full service (vaginal sex) prive, only a massage and BJ happy ending place. Clara was great, however, and I had her over at my hotel 2 days later where we consummated our relationship. Ha Ha. Check out their internet site and see if any of the girls interest you. Based on my experience you will have to go through a 2-stage process, but it might be worth it to you if you want to do the girl.
Since I was in RJ and SP in April mostly during the lockdown, I spent a lot of time with Barra Vips girls in RJ and MClass call girls in SP. Again, I concur with your report that these sites have great lookers who provide outstanding service. 500 br is too much considering the quality. I can highly recommend Barra VIP girls Monique Costa, Duda Freitas, and Yasmine Moraes. My favorite call girl or my trip, however, was an MClass girl in SP who calls herself Jheny Gauchinha. What a gal! I am looking forward to seeing her again many times.
Anyway, I wanted to communicate directly with you, but your PM function is not working. It sounds like you had a great time. I had such a good time that I have already booked a return trip to Brazil for October. Thailand will have to wait for 2022 when I hope they get their shit together and everything will be open again.
One last thing: what was the name of the "local terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water" that you mentioned in your report? I would really like to go there and check it out.
NB.
[QUOTE=TravelGuy79;2575398]2) What's an average cost of an uber ride between Coco and centro. I'm sure I could take the bus or subway but I'm only there for two weeks and not sure how easy it is to navigate public transportation.
3) Are Termas and massage places easy to find walking down the street or do you need to google them ahead of time to find them.[/QUOTE][B]2)[/B] The Metro Rio, is probably way easier to navigate than either the (nightmare of a sytem, that is the) Tokyo Metro Subway system (believe me) or the London Underground and isn't hard as you might think, even with Portuguese nomenclature (unlike Tokyo...urrgh!) .
Urber / Taxis are fine and good way to talk with the local Cariocas. Metro Rio is a totally cool way of getting to know the city, if you're solo or not. Zone Sul locations (Barra, Leblon, Ipanema, Copa or Leme), just take LINE #1 or #4 all the way to 1 of four (4) centro stations (Cinelandia, Carioca, Uruguaiana or Presidente Vargas).
Most prives, boates, termas and P4P destinations can be found within walking distance of these four (4) centro stations. For a fist timer, you should be fine during the day. Use your own judgement at night.
Sometimes I've often used the metro system of city to get me to the approximate location to where I want to go, then I'll take a taxi (or if I get lost), to the finish the final leg of the trip. Can be cost effective sometimes, but not always. But that's just me, wanting to explore a little, if given the time.
[B]3)[/B] Any tool that help you navigate the city should be welcomed. If you don't fear looking like a tourist, you could go old school and buy a map. One of my all time favorite traveling pastimes, is to play 'dumb' and ask pretty women for street directions (but don't use the precise address). You just never know.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2575742]I concur with your report that these sites (Barra VIPs & MClass) have great lookers who provide outstanding service. 500 br is too much considering the quality. [/QUOTE]Correction:
500 br is [B]NOT [/B] too much considering the quality IMHO.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2575733]Let us remember that he shot himself in the end! Not the way to go. Better to go while solidly planted between a tute's soft, lotioned legs! The Hemingway stuff only should go so far.[/QUOTE]IMHO Hemingway was a great writer. My favorite works by him are: The Sun Also Rises, A Moveable Feast, To Have and Have Not, The Snows of Kilimanjaro, and The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber. I have no idea what slumming in 4th tier RJ bordellos has to do with him. That is pure fantasy. As a young man Hemingway truly loved Paris in the 1920's and we all know what that meant, but he always wrote about and seemed to prefer classy broads and hookers. Ha Ha.
His sad end should have no bearing on understanding the meaning of his life or the profound insights into the human condition which he wrote about and gave to the world in his literature.
Since Rio is not like Thailand and there are not flashing signs or half naked girls outside LOL how to you find the smaller prives / brothels, what's the best way to google search them since you can't type in Brothels in Rio and get results. One of the things I loved about Pattaya is roaming around and just spotting the place you want to try although I'm sure I will find other things I love about Brazil. I'm very excited for a new adventure.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2575742]There was only a week while I was in RJ that the Prive's were officially open, so I chose to go to only 1 Prive by the name of RJMassagem in Barra. I choose RJMassagem because they were basically the only establishment I saw with good looking girls on their website. [URL]https://rjmassagem.com.br/en/team-barra-da-tijuca/[/URL].
I had a passionate Nuru session with Clara, but to my surprise, it turned out that RJMassagem is not a full service (vaginal sex) prive, only a massage and BJ happy ending place. Clara was great, however, and I had her over at my hotel 2 days later where we consummated our relationship. Ha Ha. Check out their internet site and see if any of the girls interest you. Based on my experience you will have to go through a 2-stage process, but it might be worth it to you if you want to do the girl. [/QUOTE]I kinda like that setup actually but I never did hit up the massage places. Being that it was my first time, I mostly went through the termas to get a feel for those with online hookups to bridge the gaps. I definitely agree with Sperto that wasting time in the cheaper prives is the long man's game. When you are here for two weeks, wasting a whole day with no results or having to settle for service is not acceptable, especially because the vacationer is losing time that could be spent seeing sights or relaxing. I also believe that my aversion to cheaper prive adventures comes from age as well. When you are young, all you know is the hunt. You live in the world of young, inexperienced women, shitty housing, fleeting encounters, and fruitless nights. It's probably why most young men eventually decide to settle down and end the hunt (at least for awhile). Seems like a waste to just replicate the normal bar experience in a watered down prive environment, rather than focus on the thing people our age are searching for; quality experiences and comfort.
[QUOTE]One last thing: what was the name of the "local terma in Botafogo that blew all of the Tier 1 termas out of the water" that you mentioned in your report? I would really like to go there and check it out.[/QUOTE]Well, the execs and I went over to a place near Hotel Panda for an "encontro" as I was told. I'm not sure how it generally works but we went to a general bar area in a nearby building where we had food and drinks. Then girls started popping in. You picked a girl, negotiated the price, and skipped over to.
Hotel Panda for the rooms. I'm heading over the Sao Paulo on Sunday with the guy who took me so I'll ask him more in person how it works or if this was some kind of sponsored event or something. I'll see if he knows where the girls are coming from because that's what I'm interested in. In Sao Paulo, I'll just be there a few days and will be focused on work so I'll probably just be ordering in at MClass or Private55.
From Bogota, Zebra made his way to Cartegena, and organized a band of cargo ships with rigid rubber boats, a kind of Spy Who Loved me flotilla, manned with hookers and uber drivers. Further south, Vagabundo had his own flotilla of supertankers, tankers, cruise ships, and the odd submarine bought in bunda from odessa. Somewhere, around Natal, the flotillas collided, in a pussy riot.
[QUOTE=ZebraStripes81;2575740]Alas my friend- the Zebra now wanders the plains of Colombia-Bogota to be precise- a dreary cold city with modern brick buildings and bundled up women shuffling nowhere in particular beneath a grey equatorial sky- such a far cry from the libidinal swamp of raw sexuality and dramatic rock formations that so inspired the writings here posted.
Tonight I will be visiting an establishment in Chapinero named "Pussy House", so perhaps there is hope yet.
Zebra.[/QUOTE]