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[QUOTE=Figures]Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.[/QUOTE]I am going to Manila In early September and got a flight from Portland to San Francisco then Manila for $1086. 42. I just went through an agent and let her do all the work for me, it is on United then Philippine Air, same for return flight.

The shoes I would wait till there, alot of places make and sell shoes that are nice plus sexy. Yow would probably save money and have your girl be extra nice after the shopping.

Good luck in your hunt for the airfare!

Thanks for all the good advice.

I am going to hit the provinces. and get as far as away as possible from AC. AC is ok to just get laid - but a descent girl seems hard to find.

We as bar men will probably never understand filipina bar girl mentality. I know for sure it cannot always be about money. These girls have such F*** UP emotions because of life experiance that it seems to impair their better judgement even when an oppourtunity is to their advantage. Committment seems to scare them off!

For example, I offered the girl in question 8000 pesos a month, but also I offered to take her to my country so she could find a real job. For that amount of money, she would not have to fuck strange men every night, she would be a respectable woman once again looking after her family. Who in their right mind would turn that down?

My conclusion is:

Either she is totally stupid and goofed up.

OR


Has a pinoy boyfriend and/or some bar guy who already financial supporting her.

There is a third possible explanation that I kind of hate to raise:
That even in her emotionally fucked up state she has concluded she has no future with you.
Just a possibility.

Ace, just curious as you say you are in AC now, but have you gone in to her bar to see if she is there? Rather than wonder what happened, just swallow your pride and go find out what happened.

A possibility that nobody else mentioned, but you said that she was going to talk to the mamasan about leaving. Never underestimate the pull mamasan has with the girls especially if as you say she has been in AC for 7 years. The mamasan may have her own agenda as if the girl leaves, mamasan is losing money. If she is working in a smaller bar with only a few girls then mamasan probably put an even bigger guilt trip on her.

I was in AC a few weeks ago and my barfine one night got drunk and started bitching about how much her life sucked, what assholes most of the guys who bf'ed her were, etc. In the middle of her crying spree, she did however say something profound-"I knew when I came to AC not to bring my heart". Good advice for everyone

If you knew the amount of guys that promise a girl the world and only go back to country and forget them you would understand how some feel. They call it 'bola bola". Soo you see go to province meet that cherry girl and make her yours. Have the dream life of wife kid 2 car garage and don't forget the white picket fence. Leave us shallow party animals to to say. Hmmm one day I just may have the life ace has. On second thought. Who do I screw tonight. Lolipop, Champayne, Dollhouse, Neros, T. I. , Dirty Duck and the list goes on and on. Hmmm isn't life not being tied down wonderful.

I have a girl in AC that I have maintain contact with for about two years now. We have always maintained they we are just friends and it wasn't until my last trip that anything ever happened between us.

It was about a month before I was due to arrive in AC (April this year) that she decided to tell me she was inlove with me. I have always told her that she is not the one for me, she even knew about my other girls else where. After telling me how she loves me, out came all the lies she had been feeding me since we first meet, along with the emotional games that go with it. I almost got sucked in with the games. Now it's just water of a ducks back.


We still maintain contact, I even ask if we should stop talking but she says she can not help needing to chat to me. Although she still loves me she has softened, she gave me a new name last week. Fubu ( fuck buddy). I think I joking told her a couple of weeks ago she was just a fuck buddy and she is now throwing it back at me.

She never asks for money, just found out last night that the two nights she took leave from the bar to stay with me, papasan found out why she was on leave and fined her. She did not even ask for me to cover the fine for her.

I have hurt her feelings a number of times but she keeps coming back for more. I have never promised her the world, and I have never lied to her even though she says I bola bola.

For me she is alot of fun to be with, when she is not playing emotional games. The only thing I ever give her is food, drink and smokes. I am not sure how things will go on my next trip, as she wants to watch me fuck two girls and I believe she already has two girls in mind. But that could still be more bullshit.

This is for ACE, my girl tells me she has married off five girls in the bar, so there's still hope. I know of girls that have left the bars to study, either high school or college with the help of their new boyfriends. In saying that, good luck finding a good one.

[QUOTE=Munich1976]Unfortunately, I've never been to AC yet, but in Pattaya (Thailand) ladies charge more in December/January than in low season.[/QUOTE]

Munich1976,

The system in AC is not at all like Thailand. In AC, it's strictly a barfine system and that covers it. Yes, guys occassionally tip, but it's not really expected. The barfines stay the same year round, so there's no high season or low season pricing in that regard. The problem with the flat barfine system, is that the YMMV issues go through the roof. Some girls flake out right after you leave the bar. The upside is if you do get a good one, it's hard to beat the price at 1,200 Pesos for an all nighter.

Good luck!
AT2

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]For example, I offered the girl in question 8000 pesos a month...[/QUOTE]Not to be the lone voice of disagreement with you and the others, but to be honest most chicks wokring in the bars make more than peso 8,000 a month unless they are ugly or fat. So I ask why would she stop working for something that is less than she is used to making. Most girls get into that line of work to support their baby or other family members and those family members will still continue to beg for cash support regardless of where she is working so taking less cash just to get out of that line of work isn't realy an option for many of them.

I do agree though that she probally has someone else taking care of her or a boyfriend. If there is one thing I have learned over 39 years of association with the Philippines is that the women always have a "Plan B" in case thing don't work out with their primary plan. You were probally a plan b.

I will keep the bar nameless.

The girl in question works at a smaller bar -- is one of the most popular girls and does earn a fair bit for the bar, despite her age 35 years old and number of years in the bar. Last week, the Mamasan had warned the girl not to spend too much time with me, strange huh? But this was before the girl indicated her decision to leave.

Most likely, the Mamasan who likes to bully girls likely said or did something to discourage the girl from leaving the bar. The girl became afraid hence she disappeared.

I have no plans on returning to the bar -- I would be unwelcome.

I'm sure Bob has already considered this, but this is also an indirect way to ask for money. I suspect a lot of guys, after hearing the story, would refund the woman the money she was fined. I know I have once.

But you have to wonder -- was she really fined like she said she was?

X

[QUOTE=Bob Down]

She never asks for money, just found out last night that the two nights she took leave from the bar to stay with me, papasan found out why she was on leave and fined her. She did not even ask for me to cover the fine for her.
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Insomnia is home to the bully you speak of.

This Mamasan, despite all the buisness I once brought there, managed to such the fun out of any semblance of a good time I ever tried to have in that bar.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I will keep the bar nameless.

The girl in question works at a smaller bar -- is one of the most popular girls and does earn a fair bit for the bar, despite her age 35 years old and number of years in the bar. Last week, the Mamasan had warned the girl not to spend too much time with me, strange huh? But this was before the girl indicated her decision to leave.

Most likely, the Mamasan who likes to bully girls likely said or did something to discourage the girl from leaving the bar. The girl became afraid hence she disappeared.

I have no plans on returning to the bar -- I would be unwelcome.[/QUOTE]

Fourth possibilty:

Someone paid a one week barfine to go to Borocay. Look out for the tan lines, and a damn good excuse, when she resurfaces.

Ace, lots of decent women out there. Get out to the provinces and enjoy yourself. I'll be looking forward to your next reports.

X



[QUOTE=Vittu]There is a third possible explanation that I kind of hate to raise:
That even in her emotionally fucked up state she has concluded she has no future with you.
Just a possibility.[/QUOTE]

Name and examples of bullying behavior please!

I try to talk to most mamasans as little as possible. I'm especially annoyed by the type who start the conversation by saying, "Which one?"

Of course it's best to be polite because if she gets bad vibes she'll give you the thumbs down to the female staff and you may as well avoid that bar for the rest of your trip. Unless of course the female staff hate her, in which case you might become more attractive.

On the other hand, if you're too nice, she'll be asking for her drink in no time at all.

If I see a mamasan having friendly conversations with the staff, see the dancers / staff approaching her, touching her (nothing sexual here, if you've been to Phil., you know what I mean), then I know this is probably a good mamasan and I'll make more efforts to get to know her.

Any nominations for best Mamasan in AC?

X






[QUOTE=Billpsu]Insomnia is home to the bully you speak of.

This Mamasan, despite all the buisness I once brought there, managed to such the fun out of any semblance of a good time I ever tried to have in that bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I will keep the bar nameless ... -- I would be unwelcome.[/QUOTE]


AoS:

I cannot imagine that! As long as you pay some drinks you are always welcome! You are the customer and money talks! IMHO of course!


Cheers - Hesekiels

Well I have to give my top mamasan report to "Baby Momma" of "Touch of Class" down on Perimeter Road. She has good relationship with the girls and very honest in putting you with the right girl in the needs you want. Very friendly, not pressured and in a way she is careful with her girls and at the same time makes sure you come back smiling looking for more.