American Politics

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2543700]Of course they didn't openly say it because they know that the vast majority of Americans don't want it. They just did it. Just look at California: 90% white to 40% white in under half a century. All given cover by the fake news media.

As for an "insurrection" - LOL. Some people were allowed into the Capitol by police, took some selfies and left. Unlike a BLM / antifa riot, nothing was burned or looted, and the only person killed was shot by a policeman.

Quite a difference really: unarmed Ashli Babbitt was shot to death by a cop while committing trespass: media silence. Multiple violent felon George Floyd died of a fentanyl / meth overdose while resisting arrest for a new felony: media shrieks and demands end of civilisation.[/QUOTE]So, just like that, you have admitted that Trump is responsible for the insurrection. He didn't say anything specifically but 90% of the rally-goers wanted to attack so they did.

Yes, "some" people did what you said. But many were yelling "Hang Mike Pence", many were spraying bear spray, many were beating Capitol Poline with poles, sticks, etc. Where were all of the Republican politicians? Why weren't they outside trying to restore order? Because they were hiding under their desks and filling their pants.

FYI, as many BLM protesters committed violence as insurrectionists just took selfies and left.

Mexican President Andrés Manuel Lopez Obrador blamed President Joe Biden's immigration policies for the crisis at the southern border during a Tuesday press conference.

"Expectations were created that with the Government of President Biden there would be better treatment of migrants," Lopez Obrador said. "And this has caused Central American migrants, and also from our country, wanting to cross the border thinking that it is easier to do so."

Biden's administration, however, has blamed the Trump administration for the crisis at the border despite rolling back Trump-era policies meant to curb illegal immigration. . . Biden halted construction of the border wall, placed a 100-day moratorium on deportations and ended Trump's "Remain in Mexico" policy.

Biden has since suggested his administration would be re-establishing the "Remain in Mexico" policy, which forces migrants seeking asylum to remain in Mexico while their asylum claims were processed.

Since Biden took office, a large influx of migrants, including unaccompanied children, have arrived at the border and overwhelmed facilities. . ."

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[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2543811]If you want to idolize the January 6th Trump Thugs.

You will get numerous trials to watch and enjoy.

I will just read the headlines when guilty verdicts and jail sentences are handed out.[/QUOTE]Numerous trials after an event in which there were no casualties (except an unarmed protester who was shot by police) and no damage aside from a couple of broken windows. For that, there is a vast nationwide witchhunt and showtrials.

By contrast, after a year of rioting, burning and looting by blacks and communists, which cost many lives and over $2 bn of damage, the perpetrators are let off with no charge. Where is the nationwide hunt for the people who attacked and burned the federal courthouses and attempted to attack the White House itself, injuring over 50 Secret Service personnel?

When the law is unevenly applied, with certain people persecuted and overcharged and others let of scot-free depending on their political persuasion, we have entered banana republic territory. This will not end well.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2543695]"Philanthropist". LOL. He literally funds the invasion of Europe by illegal low IQ Africans and Middle Eastern Muslims, 90% of them unskilled fighting age men. He funds their transit, he funds the NGOs and lawyers who prevent us from sending them home and ensure they get to live on welfare indefinitely.[/QUOTE]Literally, huh? Alright.

Show me a reliable source (no, Matt Gaetz or Donnie Jr don't qualify) that this garbage you're spewing is not a bunch of old, tired lies.

Should be easy, don't ya think?

But hold on a minute. I'll even give you a head start.

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/nation/2018/10/31/george-soros-and-migrant-caravan-how-lie-multiplied-online/1824633002/[/URL]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2543855]So, just like that, you have admitted that Trump is responsible for the insurrection. He didn't say anything specifically but 90% of the rally-goers wanted to attack so they did.

Yes, "some" people did what you said. But many were yelling "Hang Mike Pence", many were spraying bear spray, many were beating Capitol Poline with poles, sticks, etc. Where were all of the Republican politicians? Why weren't they outside trying to restore order? Because they were hiding under their desks and filling their pants.

FYI, as many BLM protesters committed violence as insurrectionists just took selfies and left.[/QUOTE]I have "admitted" nothing of the sort. To have gleaned that information from what I wrote, you must have a very low IQ indeed.

So what if people were yelling slogans. Leftists shout and tweet violent threats all the time with no repercussions. They didn't carry out any actions. The huge group of people that entered the Capitol did not kill, burn or loot anyone or anything, which is more than you can say for the black / communist riots of the past year.

There is ample footage showing Capitol police waving the protesters forward, opening the doors and standing aside for them to enter the Capitol. There was no damage done aside from a couple of broken windows. There were no law enforcement personnel killed or even significantly injured. It was a genuinely peaceful protest against the fraudulent election.

If it had been an "insurrection", they would have brought weapons; huge numbers of people on both sides would have been killed; and they would have occupied the Capitol indefinitely. None of those things happened (there were no firearms recovered at all) because it was only an "insurrection" in the fantasy narrative of the leftist / globalist fake news media. In reality it was a peaceful protest by American patriots against a stolen election.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2543672]If funny how the right and left can disagree about everything, but when AIPAC has their conference or the PM of Israel shows up at the US Congress wanting something, all your American elected officials jump up and applaud like clapping seals. And they'd better, and they know it, or else their election financing will dry up and they'll be targeted in their next primary.

Who for the life of them can understand why anyone wouldn't think the concerted action of a special interest group giving a green light to that madness would have anything to do with this.[/QUOTE]Perhaps because supporting Israel, which is not just the only democracy, but also our only true friend and ally in that super-volatile part of the world is a no-brainer?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544039]Literally, huh? Alright.

Show me a reliable source (no, Matt Gaetz or Donnie Jr don't qualify) that this garbage you're spewing is not a bunch of old, tired lies.
[/QUOTE]Ah, the old "reliable source" fake news canard. Any information that goes against the fake news leftist / globalist media agenda, they call "unreliable". Nobody falls for the scam any more, son. That's why the mainstream (fake news) media has the lowest ratings of trust in its history, and falling daily.

For any serious and impartial readers who are interested in the truth (so not Xpartan), here is a forensic analysis of some of the many organisations funded by the multi-billionaire Soros which facilitate the invasion of the West by unwanted third world migrants, most of whom are unskilled fighting age men (as well as pushing other unpopular globalist / leftist causes such as releasing violent felons from prison, climate change, censorship and restriction of free speech, etc): [URL]http://themillenniumreport.com/2020/06/organizations-funded-by-george-soros-and-his-open-society-foundations[/URL].

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544045]Perhaps because supporting Israel, which is not just the only democracy, but also our only true friend and ally in that super-volatile part of the world is a no-brainer?[/QUOTE]If it is our "true friend and ally", why have Israeli troops never fought alongside American troops in any war, ever? Why did Israel attack and destroy the USS Liberty in 1967? Why does Israel take several billion dollars a year from the USA in economic and military aid, including cutting edge technology which it then sells on to China? Why does Israel spy on the US, most notably through Jonathan Pollard?

Yup, a true friend and ally.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2544048]If it is our "true friend and ally", why have Israeli troops never fought alongside American troops in any war, ever? Why did Israel attack and destroy the USS Liberty in 1967? Why does Israel take several billion dollars a year from the USA in economic and military aid, including cutting edge technology which it then sells on to China? Why does Israel spy on the US, most notably through Jonathan Pollard?

Yup, a true friend and ally.[/QUOTE]Chris,

Just to make sure I get this correctly: what you are saying is that Trump had this completely backwards?

"My administration will always stand in solidarity with our Jewish brothers and sisters, and we will always stand strong with our cherished friend and partner, the state of Israel."

[URL]https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-stands-americas-cherished-ally-israel/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2544047]...Nobody falls for the scam any more, son. ..[URL]http://themillenniumreport.com/2020/06/organizations-funded-by-george-soros-and-his-open-society-foundations[/URL].[/QUOTE]In fact, you are the victim of the scam, son. [URL]themilleniumreport.com[/URL] is more than a tinfoil hat, conspiracy site -- it is owned and operated by the Russian government. Don't think so? Try and find out who owns it then. Try and find a real reporter who writes for it. Complain all you want about the NYT or the WP, but we know who owns them. Every major article, certainly every opinion piece, iin them s signed by a real human being. In contrast, every single article in your source originates in a Russian disinformation factory. Don't think so? Then show one single, real person who writes for them. Every article they publish is pro-Russia (or Syria), or designed to weaken the United States and the West. If you support and promulgate this site, then you are either Russian dupe, or a traitor to the US.

George Soros is a 90 year old man who escaped the Nazis in WWII. He funds a single foundation, which promotes open, democratic societies. The twisted George Soros conspiracy theories are simply a cover for anti-semitism. These theories are Russian disinformation and propaganda.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2544070]In fact, you are the victim of the scam, son. [URL]themilleniumreport.com[/URL] is more than a tinfoil hat, conspiracy site -- it is owned and operated by the Russian government. Don't think so? Try and find out who owns it then. Try and find a real reporter who writes for it. Complain all you want about the NYT or the WP, but we know who owns them. [/QUOTE]As I said, son, you've fallen for the "reliable sources" scam again. The forensic analysis in the link I gave you is all correct. Soros the multibillionaire funds all of the leftist / globalist organisations listed (and more), which push unwanted mass third world immigration, censorship and restriction of free speech, climate change hysteria, and other parts of unpopular leftist / globalist agenda. Instead of responding to or refuting the points made and the facts presented (because you can't), you shriek "it wasn't written by a 'real journalist! Whatever that is.

In fact, what you would consider "real journalists" are flacks who follow the agenda of the leftist / globalist fake news media. If they don't they get fired from their failing legacy media outlets, as happened recently to Glenn Greenwald, who is a real journalist. Regardless, look at the information and answer it. Play the ball, not the man.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2544112]As I said, son, you've fallen for the "reliable sources" scam again. The forensic analysis in the link I gave you is all correct. Soros the multibillionaire funds all of the leftist / globalist organisations listed (and more), which push unwanted mass third world immigration, censorship and restriction of free speech, climate change hysteria, and other parts of unpopular leftist / globalist agenda. Instead of responding to or refuting the points made and the facts presented (because you can't), you shriek "it wasn't written by a 'real journalist! Whatever that is.

In fact, what you would consider "real journalists" are flacks who follow the agenda of the leftist / globalist fake news media. If they don't they get fired from their failing legacy media outlets, as happened recently to Glenn Greenwald, who is a real journalist. Regardless, look at the information and answer it. Play the ball, not the man.[/QUOTE]Very well said. At least there are a few people left that possess the ability to remove their head from their ass. Still waiting to hear from all of those Biden supporters about the great things he has done so far.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2544112]...
In fact, what you would consider "real journalists" ...[/QUOTE]I'm not asking for a journalism school grad or anything like that -- just a real person. These articles are written by some guy at Glavset in Leningrad. I know there is no reaching you, but please, ask yourself who wrote the article? What country does he actually live in? Is there a picture of him? The Russians have been practicing advanced propaganda for over 100 years -- they are very good at it, and have tapped into our propensity to believe anything.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2544070]In fact, you are the victim of the scam, son. [/QUOTE]This man is hardly a victim. He's a willing promoter of extreme lies and paranoia. In another post he claims that the attack against the USS Liberty in 1967 (for which Israel apologized and paid millions in damages) was deliberate; you have to be a complete and hopeless kook, provocateur, or both to claim that Israel would've deliberately attacked a military ship of its most important ally in the world -- why on earth would they have ever done that?

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2544070][URL]themilleniumreport.com[/URL] is more than a tinfoil hat, conspiracy site -- it is owned and operated by the Russian government. Don't think so? Try and find out who owns it then. Try and find a real reporter who writes for it. Complain all you want about the NYT or the WP, but we know who owns them. Every major article, certainly every opinion piece, iin them s signed by a real human being. In contrast, every single article in your source originates in a Russian disinformation factory. Don't think so? Then show one single, real person who writes for them. Every article they publish is pro-Russia (or Syria), or designed to weaken the United States and the West. If you support and promulgate this site, then you are either Russian dupe, or a traitor to the US.

George Soros is a 90 year old man who escaped the Nazis in WWII. He funds a single foundation, which promotes open, democratic societies. The twisted George Soros conspiracy theories are simply a cover for anti-semitism. These theories are Russian disinformation and propaganda.[/QUOTE]The so-called Millennium Report is published by the so-called Discover the Networks (whatever that's supposed to mean) run by the David Horowitz so-called Freedom Center. According to [URL]https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/discover-the-networks[/URL] is a questionable source:

[QUOTE]A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, a complete lack of transparency and/or is fake news. Fake News is the deliberate attempt to publish hoaxes and/or disinformation for the purpose of profit or influence (Learn More). Sources listed in the Questionable Category may be very untrustworthy and should be fact checked on a per article basis. Please note sources on this list are not considered fake news unless specifically written in the reasoning section for that source. See all Questionable sources.

Overall, we rate Discover the Networks far-right in bias and Questionable due to the use of poor sources, the promotion of propaganda related to Islam, the use of poor sources, and third party designation as a potential hate group.[/QUOTE]The detailed report is in the link.

I'm done with him. People like ChrisP are incapable of having a serious and honest dialogue, and it's not my job to educate him against his will.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2544119]I'm not asking for a journalism school grad or anything like that -- just a real person. These articles are written by some guy at Glavset in Leningrad. I know there is no reaching you, but please, ask yourself who wrote the article? What country does he actually live in? Is there a picture of him? The Russians have been practicing advanced propaganda for over 100 years -- they are very good at it, and have tapped into our propensity to believe anything.[/QUOTE]Once again, what matters is whether the facts are correct or not. And they are. Soros the multibillionaire does indeed fund all of the globalist / leftist groups listed in the article, and more, pushing mass third world immigration, climate change hysteria, censorship and restriction of free speech, and the rest of the unpopular globalist / leftist agenda. That is what you should be focusing on.

But of course you and your ilk don't want to focus on the factual reality of the above, so you start spouting conspiracies about who happened to publish the facts. Firstly, there is no evidence it was from Russia, just like there was no evidence of the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory despite three years of the democrats and fake news pushing it. Secondly, it doesn't matter anyway: what matters are the facts contained in the article. They are correct. Go research them and find one which is incorrect. You can't. Which brings us back to my correct point that Soros is funding the mass invasion of the West by third world unskilled fighting age men.

In fact, having just read Xpartan's latest serving of turgid fake news wordsludge, it appears that the website in question is run by the David Horowitz Freedom Centre, which is entirely American, not Russian at all. Thanks for that, Xpartan! So, John Clayton, now that your buddy Xpartan has proven false your assertion that the website is run by "some guy in Leningrad", will you be willing to man up and offer an apology and retraction?