Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2624146]![/QUOTE]Steve the optics and personality of the SA girl I meet is very important for me more than the money I pay. I would rather pay more for 2 good meetings than 4 ordinary meetings.

Plus I have old SBs from 4 years ago that I meet when I go to that town or city. I have helped them out in hard times and thankfully there remember that even now. Example if you say meet 4 ordinary girls for 300 each or meet 2 very attractive girls for 700 each time I will for sure choose the latter. I hope that this sort of thinking aligns with your approach or thoughts.

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Trying out SA at the moment. There's a smoking hot girl, 24, single mum, about 20 minutes drive from me. She wants £100 for a meet plus childcare of £20, quick drink at the pub then across the road to her place. Confirmed with a videocall she is the girl in the pictures. New profile, created today. So maybe she's clueless?

Back and forth over 'need to send money for childcare first' - obviously, I'm not sending anything.

Finally got her to agree to meet me first, then I'd give her the childcare money. 99.999% certain I'm being sent off on a wildgoose chase. But I haven't got anything else to do today. And that 0. 001% chance it isn't, well fantastic!

Still 50/50 whether I'm going to even bother taking the drive.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2624402]Trying out SA at the moment. There's a smoking hot girl, 24, single mum, about 20 minutes drive from me. She wants 100 for a meet plus childcare of 20, quick drink at the pub then across the road to her place. Confirmed with a videocall she is the girl in the pictures. New profile, created today. So maybe she's clueless?

Back and forth over 'need to send money for childcare first' - obviously, I'm not sending anything.

Finally got her to agree to meet me first, then I'd give her the childcare money. 99.999% certain I'm being sent off on a wildgoose chase. But I haven't got anything else to do today. And that 0. 001% chance it isn't, well fantastic!

Still 50/50 whether I'm going to even bother taking the drive.[/QUOTE]Love your never say die attitude. Why not go in glass half full but with low expectations. I like it. But def I'm betting on the 99.9999% outcome! Best of luck!

Ps loved reading ur recent reports. In the Phuket thread as i recall?

Damn I must be living right. My rekindle of a late 2019 girl in a second tier city I visit far exceeded expectations. Ended up giving her 400 after a six hour date including 3 full hours in the bedroom and two mega shots. In the past we were pressed for time and it was very transactional. This time it was much more BFGF once we got going and man does she love to drink and becomes quite the vixen once the Tito's is flowing.

Full report to follow.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2624452]Love your never say die attitude. Why not go in glass half full but with low expectations. I like it. But def I'm betting on the 99.9999% outcome! Best of luck!

Ps loved reading ur recent reports. In the Phuket thread as i recall?[/QUOTE]Yes, that was me. Phuket and Pattaya. Was considering a bandit run back to Thailand but timings just aren't going to work.

Smoking hot single momma' never came off. Definite scammer. But at least she's a polite scammer who didn't let me do a 40 minute round trip.

Got another girl lined up for tomorrow morning, 40 minutes away. Short, petite 25 year old black British girl. Confirmed ID with videocall. BBFSCIP agreed to upfront (very reluctantly) for £150 ppm. All the other girls I've taken to WhatsApp are wanting £250+ per meet.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2624473]Yes, that was me. Phuket and Pattaya. Was considering a bandit run back to Thailand but timings just aren't going to work.

Smoking hot single momma' never came off. Definite scammer. But at least she's a polite scammer who didn't let me do a 40 minute round trip.

Got another girl lined up for tomorrow morning, 40 minutes away. Short, petite 25 year old black British girl. Confirmed ID with videocall. BBFSCIP agreed to upfront (very reluctantly) for 150 ppm. All the other girls I've taken to WhatsApp are wanting 250+ per meet.[/QUOTE]Yeah I find London breaks my formula. In the US the cost of a pro for an hour is a good proxy for an SA girl for the evening. But in London I can get a nice girl for 150-200 £ at Diva say. But I couldn't find SA girls there. 250 £ was as low as I found in my limited experience when pass thru in 2019 and 2020.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2624541]Yeah I find London breaks my formula. In the US the cost of a pro for an hour is a good proxy for an SA girl for the evening. But in London I can get a nice girl for 150-200 at Diva say. But I couldn't find SA girls there. 250 was as low as I found in my limited experience when pass thru in 2019 and 2020.[/QUOTE]I'm in the NorthWest, bordering upon the West Midlands.

I've got the slums of Liverpool, Birmingham and Manchester within spitting distance and these girls are still talking stupid numbers. It's a filtering game, isn't it?

Met another new girl today. Met her around 2:30 PM, so it was past lunch time. Went straight to the hotel. A bit risky for my taste, but I let the dick run my head. Pretty tall girl, 5'10"; White; not fat but not skinny either; she was really athletic. Pretty face, upturned nose and slight dimples, the kinda girl that drives me crazy. 22 years old, almost 23. She is a recent transplant to my city from a coastal state. Very outgoing, quite confident, super experienced babe. Had been doing this since she was 18, she said. We met in some parking lot, she came and sat in my car and we drove to a hotel nearby, she didn't have the slightest hesitation getting into the car of a stranger. I took it as a compliment that she trusted me enough. She is very experienced sexually, she admitted she had multiple sugardads not to mention several boyfriends and fuckboys of her own. Into the room, right away began with deep kissing, disrobed me and gave very wet blow job; she encouraged me to finger her with 3 fingers, and almost squirted; very wet in fact, rarely see it. 20 to 30 minutes of fucking in multiple positions; for some reason could not cum. She peeled off the condom, and blew me again with me standing up and her on the knees, and swallowed every last drop. Wow. That last act alone costs like a 50 extra in FKKs and they immediately spit it into a paper towel before I even stop cumming. This one wiped me so cleanly, I could have put my underwear on with no more rinsing.

The session itself didn't last more than 70 minutes. Very different session from the one with my college girl that spent 3+ hours with me, 2 in the room. But the girl today is a lot more pro, although of the same age.

There was a porn star called Meggan Mallone 10 to 15 years ago. Today's girl could be her twin, where looks are concerned.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2624473]Yes, that was me. Phuket and Pattaya. Was considering a bandit run back to Thailand but timings just aren't going to work.

Smoking hot single momma' never came off. Definite scammer. But at least she's a polite scammer who didn't let me do a 40 minute round trip.

Got another girl lined up for tomorrow morning, 40 minutes away. Short, petite 25 year old black British girl. Confirmed ID with videocall. BBFSCIP agreed to upfront (very reluctantly) for 150 ppm. All the other girls I've taken to WhatsApp are wanting 250+ per meet.[/QUOTE]So, this could be a winner.

Videocalled her again last, sweet talked her into showing me her pussy. Cute, very hairy. And she was wet, very wet, making cute little noises when she spread herself. I think all the talk of cumming in her pussy turned her on.

I'm taking the ungroomed nature (she's agreed to shave) and the wetnesss as a good sign. Inclined to believe her when she says she hasn't had sex in a year.

Got a date set in a couple of hours time, will report back.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2624458]Ended up giving her 400 after a six hour date including 3 full hours in the bedroom and two mega shots.[/QUOTE]Man, I love long fuck sessions. Last fall, when I rented that apartment for 6 months, the first time that I brought Maya there, I stuck my dick into her and we fucked for 5 hours. I just stuck it in and then we did DFK for the entire time. We did a food break in the middle of it. But LOL, she had no idea what she was in for, and she complained about it hard the next day, saying that she could barely walk. But her vagina felt amazing and her body was amazing and she was a great kisser and just totally beautiful, and so those 5 hours went by pretty fast. Too bad that she dumped me in February.

This year, my longest fuck session was with an MP gal that was super into me, and I even rented an apartment for her. We would fuck for three hours at a time. She never wanted to stop, she loved it too.

I always took a couple of gulps of beer before long sessions, to make sure my dick was numb so that I would not cum.

Tomorrow I am supposed to see that married skinny MILF. She is also usually DTF for hours too, but lately we just go at it for only 2 hours. I guess the novelty is slowly wearing off with her.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2623818]Yeah, you guys are totally right. I forgot about the category of SBs (and some WGs) that have decent jobs, but they just hook or SB on the side for some extra cash. In fact, these are specifically the ones that I searched for on SA.


Anyway, I just brought up the categories because I wanted to hear your thoughts on the gals that are good people, but they sell their bodies because they feel like they have no other choice in order to survive for themselves and / or for their family. I am regularly seeing several gals that fall into this category, and it is eating me up.
For example, they are single moms with no money and with very poor parents and are from a very rural part of the country. They leave their kids back home and come to the big city to sell their bodies to have enough money to take care of the family. I feel guilty about seeing them, because I feel like I am taking advantage of their bad situation in life. And because my situation is the opposite of theirs. I was born into a good family, and raised well. I am actually lazy and a loser, but because I have a college degree that my parents paid for, I am doing okay financially with a decent job. And so, I feel like I am bad person because I am taking advantage of good people. I did not deserve my good fate and they did not deserve their bad fates. Ironically, they are among the best WGs, SBs, GFs that I ever had.[/QUOTE]Never thought this was where my Mom's SD dates from the 70's would finally make sense. She kept me from knowing (but years later I figured it out) There was no SA then. The USA was a perfect, clean, pious place to grow up in. Where we lived in a preachers home (my grandfather, yikes!) & all the time Mom had at least 5-6 SD's that I know now helped her to make it in that country town. And we only left when she married a wealth businessman (my stepfather) . So I guess it's no wonder in today's world I get to do the same. I help that 4th category and fuk the guilt, having sex with the most gorgeous women I can find as often as possible. It is a relief to read these posts. See you all in Medellin, one month beginning November 24. Elvis?

[QUOTE=JJanni;2624735]So, this could be a winner.

Videocalled her again last, sweet talked her into showing me her pussy. Cute, very hairy. And she was wet, very wet, making cute little noises when she spread herself. I think all the talk of cumming in her pussy turned her on.

I'm taking the ungroomed nature (she's agreed to shave) and the wetness as a good sign. Inclined to believe her when she says she hasn't had sex in a year.

Got a date set in a couple of hours time, will report back.[/QUOTE]Date never came off. I was on the way and the girl videocalled, half gazeboed at 10 am and asking me to bring more booze with me. Noped out, too skeezy even for me.

I've got a couple of other girls on the hook. Pretty, 23 year old single mum from near Liverpool. A chav for my fellow Brits (I am kind of into that.) BBFSCIP agreed to for 150 ppm. Meeting her at a hotel Sunday. From our chat and videocall, she seems proper filthy. In a good way.

Gorgeous, stacked Black British 20 year old in Liverpool for 200 ppm. BBFSCIP. Possibly might go and see her Tuesday or Wednesday.

Looked into SA during Covid, but it was too difficult to arrange anything with the hotels shuts. Did my research and got all the cheat phrases and advice. It amazes me that these girls don't see themselves as W G. But if you messaged them, '150 an hour outcall, bareback and cum in pussy' you'd get shut down in an instant.

This SA thing is going to bankrupt me though.

[QUOTE=JJanni;2625026]Date never came off. I was on the way and the girl videocalled, half gazeboed at 10 am and asking me to bring more booze with me. Noped out, too skeezy even for me.

I've got a couple of other girls on the hook. Pretty, 23 year old single mum from near Liverpool. A chav for my fellow Brits (I am kind of into that.) BBFSCIP agreed to for 150 ppm. Meeting her at a hotel Sunday. From our chat and videocall, she seems proper filthy. In a good way.

Gorgeous, stacked Black British 20 year old in Liverpool for 200 ppm. BBFSCIP. Possibly might go and see her Tuesday or Wednesday.

Looked into SA during Covid, but it was too difficult to arrange anything with the hotels shuts. Did my research and got all the cheat phrases and advice. It amazes me that these girls don't see themselves as W G. But if you messaged them, '150 an hour outcall, bareback and cum in pussy' you'd get shut down in an instant.

This SA thing is going to bankrupt me though.[/QUOTE]So if you don't talk BBFScip early it sounds like U do talk about that some time. Personally I’d be scared of any that allow CIP. That’s a level of desperation that I don’t want to get close to. When and how are you bringing it up to these girls? I know the girls I am after would ghost me in two seconds. Sounds like you are finding more WG style girls?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2625033]So if you don't talk BBFScip early it sounds like I do talk about that some time. When and how are you bringing it up to these girls? I know the girls I am after would ghost me in two seconds. Sounds like you are finding more WG style girls?[/QUOTE]I've got maybe four categories I've mentally put the girls (that aren't / probably aren't video sellers / scammers) into;.

Escorts. Probably have an AdultWork account or if they don't, they should. They're after £200+ppm and have a list of dos and donts. Bareback is a definite no go, like it would be with most of the girls on Adultwork if you ask for it straight up, out of the blue.

Absolute skanks. They're offering it up at 100-150 ppm. Drunks, drunk addicts, fat an / or fuck ugly!

Semi-pro kinda girls. Newish to the game, maybe hurting for short term money, mid-tier attractiveness, think there's probably a difference between them and a straight up escort. Probably not aware of their 'worth' yet. Condom use outside of the P4 p world isn't as prevalent as you might think so it isn't an absolute 'no' with these girls to fuck without a condom. Generally I find they're biting at 150 ppm or 200 ppm.

Proper SBs (the ones I'm interested in anyway) - Teen, early twenties, pretty as fuck stunners with perfect bodies. Aware of how the game is played, so will take PPM if you play it right. Generally going for 200-250+ppm.

I ditch the first two categories on discovery, focus on the second;.

My profile makes a big deal about how I travel for work and pleasure so much, lots of pictures of exotic locales, so no time for a traditional relationship. When we get chatting, I'll talk about a previous (imaginary) SB I had a casual, ongoing relationship with. She was so chill, 25, good job, we'd meet at hers a couple nights a month when I was in the UK, takeaway, wine and a movie. I'm a wealthy guy, see, just simple. (sets expectations that five star hotel and a £100 dinner on a PPM won't be forthcoming, not my style see.).

Talk about how I want to rekindle that, loved the casual and intimate nature bla-bla. Eventually move the conversation on to sexual likes and dislikes. With the stunner SBs, that's where I leave it. If we can find a PPM that works for both of us, I'd be happy for that quality of girl to use a condom. BBFSCIP with those girls I feel (and it has been my experience in other arenas) is more likely to happen with a 'go with the flow' in the room approach. Take your time on foreplay and teasing, get them off with oral yada-yada. An untested theory with SBs.

The 'semi-pro' girls, that's the point I'll ask if they're on birth control and get tested regularly. If they say no, they're probably lying and cutting the bareback question off. Sometimes they say yes and 'I always use protection. ' If they yes and nothing else, I start gushing about 'Oh good, that's what I miss most about previous relationship, the worry free, natural sex, the intimacy of cumming inside bla bla. ' Often the response I get is something like 'oh yes' and even an admission of 'hating the feel of condoms. '.

All untested yet. YMMV, for all I know I'm just talking to scammers / video sellers and bored girls with no intentions of meeting.