Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Bartonsky]This time I see the line up and pick a girl. We go to the room and I tell her I like to kiss and ask her if she kisses. She is adament about no kissing. There was zero wiggle room so I decided it was pointless to get in an argument so I get up and leave.

I then pick another girl. I tell her when we get to the that I would like to kiss. Again she is pretty adament about no kissing but seemed a bit more accomodating. After a decent back and forth she says she will kiss.

I really don't llike to do this because I feel it kills the whole mood. In Rio and BA 90% of all the girls kiss without even asking. Most of the time they are even eager to kiss. I think I am a decent looking guy. I workout out regularly and am on the young side so I don't think I am some 300 lb 60 yr old guy.

So we start at it and right off the start I can tell her kisses are pathetic, tiny little pecs and no tongue or passion or even pretending to. I should have just walked out again but I guess I was just to frustrated to back out again.[/QUOTE]Oh man, the day I haggle with a chica over kissing is the day I retire from this fun. :)

You think if a chica is adament about not kissing when you ask her about it, but finally caves in to your insistent demand, that she's really going to kiss you with passion??

I'm sorry you had a bad time, but you kind of set yourself up for it really.

I think maybe a 300 pound, 60 year old guy just might get those kisses you desire if he's a cool cat about it.
It's all about the chemestry amigo.

Takes a bit more than just whining to them about kissing, matter of fact, I'm sure the haggling over it just turns them off even more.

Good luck

And just stick with the mansion girls. I don't see any way to get robbed or get in trouble there. I mean taxi to mansion. Mansion girls. Taxi to airport. Bye! Hehe. Being pistol whipped must have hurt but at least you weren't shot.

[QUOTE=CurrymasalaNYC]And just stick with the mansion girls. I don't see any way to get robbed or get in trouble there. I mean taxi to mansion. Mansion girls. Taxi to airport. Bye! Hehe. Being pistol whipped must have hurt but at least you weren't shot.[/QUOTE]Did you forget that they were also robbed there at the Mansion?

The Mansion had a call from a T.V. crew from Bogota about a month ago (second time ) they wanted to do a program on prostitution in Medellin and Cartagena.

They wanted RICKER, Cubanut, Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd as a starring role but there and the Mansion agents declinned.

Aussie G.

Yes, I was always concerned about the trip from Airport to Medellin, it is easy to get stopped and robbed at gun point on the way, specially during the late night flights from Bogota or Panama!

Crime is on the raise in Medellin! May be we need an armored car or secure van from airport!

Cheers

[QUOTE=CurrymasalaNYC]And just stick with the mansion girls. I don't see any way to get robbed or get in trouble there. I mean taxi to mansion. Mansion girls. Taxi to airport. Bye! Hehe. Being pistol whipped must have hurt but at least you weren't shot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kermitthefrog]Coming back from the bathroom she's on the phone again although this time it's her Wing-girl (Wingman?) and she's persuaded her trick it was game-over and calling to bring about the same with me.

I'm pissed!

I give her $100k as we leave and she's not happy. The mood is broken. We begin the arguement. She asserts the deal was for $150k. I assert it was also for three hours. She retorts that they came at Nine. I counter with they were fed and we had paid. To close the arguement I pick up the unused Condom and place it in my lap and gesture toward the bed. She can have $150k if she gets back on the bed. She declines.

We leave and she tries to lift the mood. I walk her back to meet her friend.

Next morning I debrief with my wingman. I'd warned him of the scenario and it played out exactly as predicted. He too had tried to prevent his from calling mine.[/QUOTE]I hear ya Kermit - check this post:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=791648[/url]

I can't stand the cell phone. it is the kiss of death every time it rings. If they don't get a signal in your place they will cry "but my sister is watching my daughter and if there is an emergency I NEED MY CELL" - yeah. Is your sister watching your kid in a bar? It's 11pm, give your sister my apartment land line. Cell phone calls cost money, everyone knows that.

If you want more details about how to squash the whole "get out of the trick early call" PM me. I've blabbered enough today.

[quote=luckyeddie]tweeners is sort of talking about somthing different but i will use his comment as a springboard because i've read this on here for a long time and there is a layer or aspect that no one seems to get.

no offense, just want you all to think about this and take a view from another side. no disrespect intended to anyone.

an example: you go to your bosses house in the us, for dinner. first time there. do you sit in on the sofa take of your shoes and put your feet on the coffee table? do you walk to the fridge and grab a beer? no? why not? your boss does it. his wife puts her feet on the coffee table and their kids help themselves to the fridge 7 times without asking. the boss never even blinks an eye!

in colombia just because colombian men make up the vast majority of clients in the brothels doesn't mean that it is ok for tourists. it's the whole outsider, invader, tresspasser thing - like the little southern town who suddenly gets a new resident, a rich guy who wears a funny smock and a really long beard, who moved in from algeria. suddenly this guy is at the bars hitting on the local women, your women, getting them maybe for free. you had to wait for your favorite girl in the mp and when she finally exists the room you find out you were waiting for her because she was with the algerian guy. wtf! then he's telling all his friends how great the paradise is he discovered and the women this and that and before you know it he's got a friend visiting, then another, throwing around their money making you look bad.

get it? the problem in colombia with all of this is not prostitution nor the breakdown between locals and foreigners who visit the brothels or hit on the ladies. the gangs and the paras are not after the colombian sex workers and the colombian johns in faseii. this is not about what is right and what is wrong and just because colombians do it foreigners who make up a small percentage of the clients, are viewed the same way. do not have the speeding on the highway mentality because it does not apply. (i'm doing 70 but these other cars are doing 90 and some are weaving, so i'm "under the radar")

do you think the southern locals are saying "well, all us locals go to the brothels and there are 200 of us and omar and akmed, well they are just 2 guys, paying customers and they have every right just like we do..."

no my friends, that is not how it works. the foreigner is not liked, is an invader and sticks out. the locals do not notice the other locals - just like the boss doesn't think twice when the kids go to the fridge 7 times in one night but you, the employee, go just once and it is tremendously noticed.

the colombian men have a good, discreet thing and the toursist brings it into the spotlight and turns it into a mockery.

to twist it and say - "they all do it so foreigners are not a problem" is extremely naive. there are tv shows here pointing out sex tourists - it is a problem, it is very noticed and in the main stream.

please don't bring up the odd 60 year old colombian traqueto with his 18 yo gf in parque lleras. if you do, then you still don't get it.

you are in someone else's living room acting with entitlement.

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Hi guys,

Thursday, 18 June 2009, my house in Envigado! That's true guys, I didn't even make it out the door! This beautiful angel which I met at Romance Latinas' Penthouse Party came to my door. I've been trying to go out with her since the party but she went to school from 6-10PM and with my schedule we could never get together. Well, finally school finished for her last night and I made sure I called her. She had a motor cycle accident last night and her knees were all scratched, but she still agreed to come!

She was hesitant because of the pain, but she had mentioned earlier that a friend owed her 200k and had not payed her and she needed the money for some injections for the swelling! She's always known I'm crazy about her and on more than one occasion mentioned how well I danced "Regetton", she said I danced better than any of the other "gringos". All I remember was that I had to keep myself from "cumming" while dancing with her. All I did was grind and was actually a little embarrased that she might had felt my "package". Apparently she didn't seem to mind at all. I'm "50", I hadn't been with a girl that could make me cum dancing in years, and it took all the will power I had not to cum in front of everybody that day. My friend Panama Mike took pictures of our little dance that day. I looked like a dog behind a little poodle!

This girl was just so sweet from the first time I saw her. Innocent, but totally sexual. She's barely 18 with the softest and sexiest "buns" I've ever encountered! While on the phone with her earlier tonight I mentioned how I almost came dancing with her. I didn't say it that directly but worked myself into it by complimenting her dancing skills and then her nice "culito". Since she didn't take offense, I then mentioned how I was dying to make love to her and hoped that I could some day. Then I said, if you come over tonight I'd love to help you with your medicines. To my surprise she agreed. She mentioned something about stopping by real quick with her cousin and saying Hi. I told myself, I hope she doesn't think I'm just going to give her money for nothing! So I just told her, I really, really would like to make love to you and she said, ok! I was in shock, this gorgeous women in my arms and between my legs by 8PM. That's why I always say it's a numbers game! It doesn't matter how many bad encounters you've had, and I've had quite a few, your "21 (Black jack) will come sooner or later.

She showed up in a black alphet or jumpsuit (shorts) with black boots! What a sight for sore eyes, I found her to be even prettier than when I met her at the Penthouse Party and thinner. Just an almost perfect "10" without the fake boobs. So clean, so smooth, smelled like a flower! I left her and her cousin in the living room while I went to my room to change. I like wearing a T-shirt in the house, need to feel comfortable. Before I had finished changing she was outside my bedroom door. She had been looking at my house and ended there. I let her in my bedroom showed her my balcony and then asked her to sit on my bed as she was clearly in pain from the motorcycle accident. Her beautiful knees all scratched up!

We started talking and flirting. Then I kissed her lightly, to what she did not object. Soon I had her lying on the bed while I was kissing her. I started rubbing her crutch and soon started removing her clothes. She then continued on her own while I took off mine. I was so big I impressed even myself, not to mention her. She said wooooow, how big! You have to put it in perspective guys, I'm not bragging, it's just that these girls are really petite! So if you are average to a little large, to them you seem "really Big"! With her beside me I felt really Big!

I tried to convince her that I liked her as a girlfriend and I didn't like condoms, but she insisted and said maybe when we got to know each other better. Luckily one of you guys, one of my guests, had left behind some "Durex", extra sensitive condoms, and they were really nice!

My beautiful angel did not let me go down on her, but she started sucking my package while I felt her beautiful "buns" which lead me to this point. They were incredible, so soft and juicy, undescribable! I couldn't hold back any longer and just layed her on my bed, open her sexy legs and went into her! Since she didn't let me go down on her the insertion hurted her a bit, but soon she was wiggling and squirming under my body. She rubbed my chest passionately and move her body with desire. I was in shock and awe that such a beautiful women could feel so passionate towards me. She kissed me non-stop, no breaks, until she came! I couldn't hold back anymore, I was praying she'd come before I did, and it was so. Actually we both came at the same time as I couldn't hold back when she started cumming. I could not do her from the back on the bed because of her scratched knees and missed out on that beautiful "ass" which lead us to my bed finally! But I'll save that for another day.

We got dressed, and she kissed me like if she was my girlfriend, and said that she'd love to come and spend the whole night with me if her mother let her. At no time did she mention money or ask for it. I just went into my wallet, pulled out 100k and 20k for the Taxi and gave it to her as a gift. Explained that I wasn't trying to pay her but wanted to give her a gift and help her with her medicines. She asked me to bring her some Victoria Secret lotions when I went back to the States. Since I had some Victoria Secret creams and some nice "thongs" I was able to respond to her wish immediately, she was very happy. If she was a "pro" or a "semi Pro" I can't say, but she would be in a "league" of her own, as this was a total GFE experience!

I was going to Babylon tonight, but she left me so satisfied I just decided to stay home and "reminiscense"!

Frank Casio!

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[QUOTE=LuckyEddie]No offense, just want you all to think about this and take a view from another side. No disrespect intended to anyone.[/QUOTE]OK fair enough, so let's continue.

In the casas the house takes a cut and what that cut ends up being is directly related to the money paid for services rendered. And if you're expecting to exist on local clients only, either they need to get pay raises or you have to cut back on the number of girls you employ.

And if you're deciding on how to pay for the house, keep the electricity on and keep a good enough group of girls around, you have to make some more money somewhere else. And since you're not charging the paisas through the nose, where do you make up for that shortfall?

Now it's just plain business sense for both the girls and the house to make more money per pop. If it takes X number of paisas to stay in business and it takes a much lower number of gringos served each day to achieve the same objective allowing for BOTH paisas and gringos to want to continue to frequent your business you do so.

Now if said paisa paying 80% less than I am is pissed that he had to wait for his fave, fuck him. Seriously. If she's that good, word of mouth puts food on her table and if he has a problem waiting for a gringo paying a higher freight than another paisa, he needs to be smart enough to know his meager contribution to his favorita certainly isn't paying her rent or feeding her kids. And if needs to be told that a fat 60 year old American is the one that pays the bills and buys the clothes for the girls, so be it.

Now if you multiply this scenario tenfold each day, yes I can see why the paisa gets pissed and wishes harm on the gringo. Both are equally guilty of a sense of entitlement. Paisa thinks his chump change should be enough to keep his favorita on retainer which is simply not possible. And the gringo thinks he has game because he paid the house rate, plus propina and likely dinner and some coin off the books for the girl for a TLN at his hotel.

Am I disappointed when a girl I had my heart set on isn't available. Yup. Can I spend less time than you did reading this post to acquire one just as hot, if not hotter, Yup. So who's more guilty of entitlement? The paisa who's territorial or the gringo that's a sex tourist?

Like or not, and the line for public consumption will be that they don't like it, but mongers eat, they usually eat in groups of 3 or more, they keep the hotels full, they employ the taxi drivers and if their biggest crime is the paisa had to bust his nut in a world class consolation prize, then like I said Fuck him.

Going back to your analogy for a second, where you said "Boss doesn't think twice when the kids go to the fridge 7 times in one night but you, the employee, go just once and it is tremendously noticed." Well if it's me, chances are I didn't show up empty handed and if invited to the Boss' house I would've had the good sense to find out what he drinks or what brand cigars he smokes, something that shows him that I'm appreciative of the invite. What I would normally provide without fail is the dessert if invited for dinner. In short, I'm bringing something to the table, just like the gringo is.

Maybe the boss has plenty of the brand of beer I brought over, does it matter to him? Nope, because I knocked with my elbows (hands were full). If I want to help myself it's because an expressed desire on the part of the host has been made.

If you come to a party at my house, I make your first drink, then I point to the bar or the fridge and I let you know that I've made the one drink I'm making. Mi casa es su casa. I don't need to Lord the fact I'm plying you with drinks nor do I want you to wait for me to make you comfortable. If you've knocked with your elbows, I've thanked you and provided you with all the comforts needed to enjoy yourself.

Now if a fat 60 year old American shows up at my house and wants to bring 3-4 times the usual gifts and wants to serve himself, he would not only be permitted, he'd be encouraged. And based on what he brought to the table I would reciprocate with my hospitality. And if the gifts he brought were enough to entertain my guests and have them leave happy and one of my guests complained that he had to wait to get to the fridge, I'd kick HIM in the pills.

Entitlement, courtesy, respect goes both ways. And if these fuckers employed in construction because of foreign investments or making money driving taxis because of foreign sex tourists want to complain about where the money comes from then TFB. You don't get it both ways.

Now back to my original point, fact is, it's a third world country. Eventually you're going get robbed. It has nothing to do with how big of a group you travel with, more guys in your group can simply equate to more guys robbing you. You are perceived to have money, and enough of it for them to risk robbing you. If you're lucky, they just take your money and not cause physical harm. If you want to be loud, drunk and obnoxious you'll probably become a preferred target. I personally don't for a second think I'm bullet proof or not a potential target no matter how hard I try to reduce my visibility.

And for the paisa that doesn't like the fact I'm paying his daughter, sister or niece for sex, it's funny that he's OK if I tip his daughter, sister or niece for great service in a restaurant or if I frequent the stores they run to give them business. Sex is only a small part of a mongers day.

Your bang on when you say we're guests in their country but as far as I'm concerned, the road to Medellin becoming another Costa Rica is paved with ignorant attitudes. Keep making it hard for me to enjoy myself, word of mouth works both ways, your economy and stronger peso (at least this week) could easily fall when the tourist money is going to Peru instead.

Thanks for reading this, now invite me over, I'm a good guest and I knock with my elbows.

Cheers

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sorry guy,

i beg to differ! so colombians can come to our country (usa) by the hundreds of thousands, some illegally, take our jobs, (i knew many with very good jobs which they took from puerto ricans just because they were more presentable) and phuck our women (they love white women). i had a colombian "giggolo" friend who used white and puerto rican women for money and room and board, and then came back to cali and married a 15 year old and took her back to florida.

so what are we "shop liver"! they can do whatever they want in the usa and we are suppose to come here "with do all respect"? we marry their *****s and give them a much better life and sometimes pay a lot more than the locals, not to mention the "royal" treatment these women get from "gringos". and we are suppose to appologize for that, and somehow feel guilty. they are the once that should be greatful we even come here to stimulate their economy!

if american women were'nt so screwed up i wouldn't set a foot in this place. colombian men are totally phucked up, the most "coneiving", gretty, dishonest men i have ever met. i've tried for 5 years to befriend them and give them generously, meaning, giving more then i take, and these men constantly try to take advantage and try to use me not only for money, but to help them find women! even colombian women admit to this. most of my girlfriends have no respect for paisas.

i only go out with "gringos" they are very generous with me. i stop going out with my colombian brother in laws because all they ever wanted was money and women. i told them fine, i'll pay if you bring the women. they're so stupid and "gretty" that they wanted me to pay, and provide the women, rediculous. even their sister, my girlfriend, and mother felt contempt for them. every time i've brought a paisa home, they do put their feet on my tables, go into my refrigerator, sleep and phuck the women they bring on my beds, and on the way out they try to take everything they can. you give them drinks and ciggarrettes and food, and on the way out they try ro take the bottles and packs. i locked the door the last time i had some over my house and didn't let anybody out until they returned the expensive bottle of tequila i had put out for them! and these were high end paisas with an expensive car!

don't tell me i have to respect them, they don't respect my country and the billions of $$ we've given them for their own safety! i gave up on the man a long time ago, i'm just here to phuck as many of their women and *****s as possible. i used to be an idiot as well when i first got here, thinking that they were so kind and curteous, until i found out they were just trying to find a way to open the "mac machine"! don't be fooled by their soft manners and apparent desire to help, they're just trying to get in somehow!

[quote=luckyeddie]tweeners is sort of talking about somthing different but i will use his comment as a springboard because i've read this on here for a long time and there is a layer or aspect that no one seems to get.

no offense, just want you all to think about this and take a view from another side. no disrespect intended to anyone.

an example: you go to your bosses house in the us, for dinner. first time there. do you sit in on the sofa take of your shoes and put your feet on the coffee table? do you walk to the fridge and grab a beer? no? why not? your boss does it. his wife puts her feet on the coffee table and their kids help themselves to the fridge 7 times without asking. the boss never even blinks an eye!

in colombia just because colombian men make up the vast majority of clients in the brothels doesn't mean that it is ok for tourists. it's the whole outsider, invader, tresspasser thing. like the little southern town who suddenly gets a new resident, a rich guy who wears a funny smock and a really long beard, who moved in from algeria. suddenly this guy is at the bars hitting on the local women, your women, getting them maybe for free. you had to wait for your favorite girl in the mp and when she finally exists the room you find out you were waiting for her because she was with the algerian guy. wtf! then he's telling all his friends how great the paradise is he discovered and the women this and that and before you know it he's got a friend visiting, then another, throwing around their money making you look bad.

get it? the problem in colombia with all of this is not prostitution nor the breakdown between locals and foreigners who visit the brothels or hit on the ladies. the gangs and the paras are not after the colombian sex workers and the colombian johns in faseii. this is not about what is right and what is wrong and just because colombians do it foreigners who make up a small percentage of the clients, are viewed the same way. do not have the speeding on the highway mentality because it does not apply. (i'm doing 70 but these other cars are doing 90 and some are weaving, so i'm "under the radar")

do you think the southern locals are saying "well, all us locals go to the brothels and there are 200 of us and omar and akmed, well they are just 2 guys, paying customers and they have every right just like we do."

no my friends, that is not how it works. the foreigner is not liked, is an invader and sticks out. the locals do not notice the other locals. just like the boss doesn't think twice when the kids go to the fridge 7 times in one night but you, the employee, go just once and it is tremendously noticed.

the colombian men have a good, discreet thing and the toursist brings it into the spotlight and turns it into a mockery.

to twist it and say. "they all do it so foreigners are not a problem" is extremely naive. there are tv shows here pointing out sex tourists. it is a problem, it is very noticed and in the main stream.

please don't bring up the odd 60 year old colombian traqueto with his 18 yo gf in parque lleras. if you do, then you still don't get it.

you are in someone else's living room acting with entitlement.

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Can we have the Frank Casio THREAD, I'm sick of this bullshit!

Aussie Greg

[QUOTE=Tweeners]"Maybe the boss has plenty of the brand of beer I brought over, does it matter to him? Nope, because I knocked with my elbows (hands were full). If I want to help myself it's because an expressed desire on the part of the host has been made.

If you come to a party at my house, I make your first drink, then I point to the bar or the fridge and I let you know that I've made the one drink I'm making. Mi casa es su casa. "[/QUOTE]First thanks for responding and Frank Casio as well. Not an attack on either of you two and I have no doubt that you are both great guys who should be invited to a party, although tweeners probably does not post drunk. Jejeje.

But this has nothing to do with you, or the fact that maybe you bought a six pack of Sam Adams. You say so yourself with this:

[QUOTE=Tweeners]"If I want to help myself [to the fridge] it's because an expressed desire on the part of the host has been made."[/QUOTE]The boss here in Colombia has not expressed this desire - watch the TV.

This is about what the people who own this country, the real boss in this scenario, think of the sex tourist/foreigner coming here "on business".

Your analogy and post and Frank's as well proves my point - you came in with arms full and now you feel you are entitled to walk to the fridge and help yourself. You STILL have to ask if you can have a beer and LET the boss tell you, "Hey, help yourself, estas en tu casa".

There are certain bosses who don't want you to to just waltz into their kitchen and grab your own beer, even though you supplied all the beer. Think of the boss please. Hint: You're not it.

You and others need to try and understand the boss here is the Colombian people - not you. Once you get into that mindset and keep a lower profile things will blow over and there won't be a problem. Yes Colombia needs the sex tourist dollars 100% and I promote that whole heartedly. This money goes up to the hilsides and stays there. This is good. There is an etiquite that most do not follow. I believe that by presenting this analogy that the ones who do not may begin to understand and help preserve the good that is the current state of Colombia, especially Medellin. This is my whole point.

Example: Look what Greg did about the pool parties. No more. Why? Because he has respect for the locals. He was not on his high horse saying "I bring business to this place and employ your people, you all owe me!" - or even funnier, "Colombians come to my country and take jobs and we give Colombia billions of dollars so I can do what I damn well please...." Using that mindset Frank, I can say you got robbed because you, the US invaded Iraq. You think the Colombian on the streeet negotiated Plan Colombia?

Greg did what he did because it was the right thing to do, being the respectful guy he is, er can be.

Don't be suprised at the rate things are going that these MP and clubs don't get a volante from Las Aguilas Negras stating no foreign customers or else. We may see the day where posters start threads with "Turned Down! - I went to San Diego Show last night and couldn't get in because I did not have a Colombian Cedula". I'm not joking.

You keep thinking entitlement and parading around your 30 years younger than you estrato 2 skank all over Poblado and we just may see hard times here.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Oh man, the day I haggle with a chica over kissing is the day I retire from this fun. :)

I think maybe a 300 pound, 60 year old guy just might get those kisses you desire if he's a cool cat about it.
It's all about the chemestry amigo.

Takes a bit more than just whining to them about kissing, matter of fact, I'm sure the haggling over it just turns them off even more.

Good luck[/QUOTE]Not to get argumentative but I have been around enough girls to know that apart from being brad pitt little would have been different in this situation. The only reason I resorted to negotiating the kissing is because I have been having the worst GFE outcomes of life here in MDE.

I had spoken to a very experienced monger who travels the world and this was his specific recomendation. I have never done it anywhere else, never had to. In BA and Rio 90% of the girls offered GFE, some incredeible amazing without any discussion at all. In Rio the girls kiss before you even decided on which girl to take.

Could I be a better sweet talker, could my spanish be better, sure. But its hard for me to believe these girls operate like light switches. You either like to kiss and have a gfe experience or you don't. That has been my experience.

I have given up even talking about the kissing at the casas here. They just don't do it most of the time.

[QUOTE=Tweeners]And for the paisa that doesn't like the fact I'm paying his daughter, sister or niece for sex, it's funny that he's OK if I tip his daughter, sister or niece for great service in a restaurant or if I frequent the stores they run to give them business. Sex is only a small part of a mongers day.[/QUOTE]Let me go further. If one does not like that fact that one's female relative or friend is IN the business, then one should assist such relative or friend so that the person does not have to consider getting into the business. As Tweeners says, one cannot have it both ways. I once had a relative ask me not to take a teaching job in a particular country. I inquired if he could get me a comparable teaching job in his choice country. I have neither seen nor heard from him since.

[QUOTE=Aussie Greg]The Mansion had a call from a T.V. crew from Bogota about a month ago (second time ) they wanted to do a program on prostitution in Medellin and Cartagena.

They wanted RICKER, Cubanut, Medellin Bob, Big Bad Boyd as a starring role but there and the Mansion agents declinned.

Aussie G.[/QUOTE]I don't come cheap baby!

Hold out for mas $$.

Off to Brasil again Aussie, see ya in Medellin in a couple weeks!

Happy travels!