East China - Shanghai

Hey Fellows,

My first post here; I've read the forums for a little while. I would like to post a personal intro as is often advised, but not sure where to put it, please advise. For now just know that I'm China experienced but green when it comes to paid sex. Only did it twice so far.

I'm pretty picky with girls so I need a line-up (or better, several). The most satisfactory place I've found so far (after a little exploration) is JinHuiNan Lu; strangely I can't find anything about it here, so let me share.

It's a bit far out, about 15 mins and 25 kuai away from XuJiaHui, so probably a solid 30 if not 40 mins from the Bund. Get to the corner of Jin Hui Nan Lu and Yan An Xi Lu, (look for a big building called New Star for a visual anchor).

You enter the street, pass a few restaurants, and about 50 meters later, the BBSes start to appear. I estimate there is about 15 of them on a stretch of maybe 300 meters.

If you go there not too late in the night there are 4 to 8 girls in each so you get at least 50+ girls to choose from. Most of the girls are 6 or 7s but there is the occasional young 8 or 9.

The deed is done behind the shop or in a little house nearby. The atmosphere is of course seriously cheap, cramped and dirty, but I don't really mind.

The street looks a bit sketchy and is not always very brightly lit, so it may feel intimidating to China newbies, but it's a safe place

I've not seen many foreigners there. Mostly Asian clients it seems. Needless to say girls and pimps speak little to no English. My Chinese is good so this is no problem for me..

My first time was a few weeks ago. I only got a BJ, damage was 200 RMB. I was not asked to wear a condom.

My second time was yesterday, again only a BJ, damage was 300 RMB. She asked me to wear a condom for the BJ, and I obliged. This was I think a first for me, and actually it didn't affect me much.

What was a bit annoying in both cases was the girls seem to think I last a long time. They start to complain after literally 2-3 mins of BJ that I haven't come yet. How to handle this, I'm not sure - please let me know. I have just been firm and said something to the extent of "hiyaaa bu yao mafan" and let them continue. But it's a bit of a buzzkill.

I have a few questions for experienced members:

1) It's pretty hard to find BBSes that are ok with BJ only, which I prefer to do at this point (I'm scared of STDs). I've actually had pimps recoil in horror when I mentioned I only wanted a BJ, as if I was asking to get shit on or something. Most places refuse, which means I can only move on to the next one. Any idea why this is? Is it a cultural thing, or is it to maintain a higher price? What to do about it?

2) Regarding STDs, do you think cheap BBS like these are more of a risk?

3) Since the JinHui Lu BBSes are numerous and very much in the open, I would think the security (police) risk is low. They seem to be tolerated. Correct?

4) Am I getting ripped off at the price points mentioned (300 for BJ only), or am I doing OK?

[QUOTE=Chill Out]Hey Fellows,

2) Regarding STDs, do you think cheap BBS like these are more of a risk?[/QUOTE]I heard BBS girls get tested monthly. 99% of them are STD aware and will not do FS without a condom.

[QUOTE]3) Since the JinHui Lu BBSes are numerous and very much in the open, I would think the security (police) risk is low. They seem to be tolerated. Correct?[/QUOTE]Pretty low. The chances are lower if they bring you back to an apartment near the BBS.

[QUOTE]4) Am I getting ripped off at the price points mentioned (300 for BJ only), or am I doing OK?[/QUOTE]It should be more like 50 for a BJ. FS is 150 on the outer fringes of the city, 200-250 in the main areas.

[QUOTE=Tasss]It should be more like 50 for a BJ. FS is 150 on the outer fringes of the city, 200-250 in the main areas.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I have tried to negotiate it down, in fact last time I discussed with a pimp for 10 mins and ending up walking away, hoping he would invite me to come back, but he didn't.

I'm young, dress casually, and I speak good Chinese, so I don't think I'm giving the impression of a clueless tourist. I try to hide the fact that I'm green as well ;-) and I'm not acting shy or anything.

So I'm at a loss as to how I would get the price down to 50, from my experience in that street at least. I have no experience with other BBS.

Any feedback appreciated.

[QUOTE=Carage]From my experience at Heting, the standard service session is 90 minutes long, and since they don't have the soapy massage service that means more action time for you.

I almost always get two pops there. 1 regular ejaculation through intercourse followed by a nice BJ after some rest and leg massage. But I usually get 2 girls and I go there in the afternoon, so maybe that could have something to do with their willingness too.

Usually the girls ask me whether I am up to the job for another go after the first round.

Oh. #200 has nice tits and gives the best BJ I got ever.[/QUOTE]

Whats the pricing for two girls?

[QUOTE=Miller Man]I visited Hai Long (my first ever visit to such a place in mainland China)

Wow – I now see what I've been missing all these months. I actually thought the place was very clean, not run down at all. I was walked straight in – it is hard to find as the sign is not illuminated out front but follow others directions and the numbers and you'll find it. Just give can the number of the street, don't ask to be driven in as it's a bit tricky to find, especially if you can't speak Chinese. I showered and was lead to the waiting room and then the line up. There would have been 20 girls in there on a Sunday night – it was jam packed and a bit overwhelming at first. One smiled at me so I said – alright – her!

I'd tried to go a Sunday before and was told it was just foot massage. Anyways – it was on tonight. I chose 852 I think, she was a cute little girl with a reasonable rack 7 and a pretty good body, 7. She wasn't super thin but I think I could do better next time. They can't see you so you in the line I worked out, as when I was done choosing they all ran to the window to try and get a look at me. So you can feel free to otake your time. This girl didn't speak a word – other than "I love you" which was quite annoying at the end to be honest as she'd said it non-stop all session.

We started with the shower where you lie down on the inflatable mattress, she gives a great body bath and plays with your cock a bit. She gave a little head but was more interested in cleaning both me and her from top to bottom. This went on a while, but you can't beat cleanliness.

Once the shower was over we got back into the adjoining room. I lay flat on my stomach and she gave me an amazing rim job, she actually seemed to love it, I did as well, so she kept going. I kneeled up and she pulled me off (or down) as she was licking me. Great stuff! I was fingering her and she was wet immediately, and was getting right into it.

She then gave me the red rope experience, where she hangs from the roof via red robes, with my dick in her mouth, spinning and sucking, spinning and sucking. I'd never had this before and it's quite an experience, but I don't think I'd bother again. It's more of a trick and I was trying not to blow so I could get down to the real stuff. I wasn't sure if they'd let me have two, so didn't want to waste the first!

She staddled me after putting a dinger on me. Again I felt she was right into it and didn't do the 'oww it's hurting' bit which I've had every time I've been out to places in Macau. Understand if it's true and that's cool, but it's usually a ploy to keep things really slow and gentle. I'm above average but western girls don't seem to have any issues. This girl certainly didn't which was a big plus and got me very excited.

We moved around a lot and she was cool with doggie, planned on ending with a CIM, but didn't get couldn't hold out! I think I'll try that next time.

As this place delivered on all requirements I don't think I'd bother trying to find another place – although if someone has tried Hai Long and can tell me another is even better then I'll get out the map and start hunting.

Cheers all and great to read your posts (from a first time poster)[/QUOTE]

Thanks for ur great post. Could u clarify:
1.How long is a session
2. Cost
Thanks

[QUOTE=Mike666]Whats the pricing for two girls?[/QUOTE]1200 if you pay by cash and leave before 7 PM.

[QUOTE=Tasss]I heard BBS girls get tested monthly. QUOTE]

According to my info, all none shanghainese must carry a police registration card, and attend a full medical screening every six months. I know this is enforced in all massage establishments in Pudong, but never heard of it applied to secretaries etc. at the office.
fz

[QUOTE=Chill Out]So I'm at a loss as to how I would get the price down to 50, from my experience in that street at least. I have no experience with other BBS.[/QUOTE]Correction I think 50 is for HJ, 100 for BJ. If you're non-Chinese-looking you're definitely not getting these prices though. If you are Asian and want these prices see the previous post about the BBS line at Line 9 Qibao station - [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1052256&postcount=2393[/url]. Enjoy and report :)

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao][QUOTE=Tasss]I heard BBS girls get tested monthly. QUOTE]

According to my info, all none shanghainese must carry a police registration card, and attend a full medical screening every six months. I know this is enforced in all massage establishments in Pudong, but never heard of it applied to secretaries etc. at the office.

fz[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where you got your info, but I doubt it's validity.

Most of the migrant workers in Shanghai aren't registered even though are technically required to. At least most of the domestic helpers I know haven't registered, and technically they are not allowed to reside in Shanghai for long.

What you are saying if true, appears to be an implicit aknowledgement of prostitution by the police, which I doubt would ever happen in Shanghai.

A more detailed report on Heting and Hailang

I just want to tidy up my previous report on Heting and Hailang. This maybe a bit of a rehash of what others have reported.

Went to Heting on a Thursday afternoon at about 4pm. Go to the Siping Lu metro station. The cab drivers have little clue. tell them its the junction of Dalian Lu and Siping Lu. Head for the junction and walk on the west side of Siping Lu heading south. You can see the directions on the road signs.

Heting Elite is about maybe 200m down in a discrete black building with Heting elite sign above the entrance. The entrance is totally black. But there will be some guards coming out. They will escort you up to a very posh looking dimly-lit place where they will bring you to a room where you change and lock your things. They have one key and hand you one. There you change into the paper underwear and wait for them to bring you to the showers. At the showers, they will take your robe and you shower. After the shower, the guy will dry your back whilst you dry your front. then, they will bring you back to your room and wait for a while before they bring you to view the girls. They bring you to the room which is small and you meet your line u p. There was only 2 girls available. I didn't ask for more. They stand maybe 2metres from you. I picked this petite girl with boobs, maybe a B cup. She wasn't really smiling much but I didn't like the other one because she was a bit flat. Looks about a 7/8.

Went into a room where you disrobe, lie on your front and they do the catbath. Her boobs were maybe about a C and natural. She was a bit cold at first but she slowly warmed up. She said she was 20 and was from Dongbei. Then they clean your ass for the ass rimming. So far so good. Then she put on the rubber and she mounted and we changed a few positions. I didn't last very long. Subsequently, she did a bit of a rub of the legs and we chatted a bit. She lied by my side and subsequently she fell asleep. I was also tired s I rested as well. All in all, I was impressed with the set up and happy with the girl. I think her number was 168. the total time was 90min. After that, you go for a shower again and rest in the room where you kept your things. You can order food but they took a while, so I left. PAyment was at the front counter. Remember, cash only. The cost was 680. I will definitely try again.

Hailang is at Zhong Shan Xi Lu 1277
中山西路1277号海螺大厦.
If the forum doesn't show the chinese address, just google it(hailang sauna).

Its behind this row of shops . Taxis don't know it well. SO I took a metro to Shnaghai indoor stadium. I can't remember the exit but look at the metro exit maps for the road. Once you get out onto Zhong Shan Xi Lu proper, hop onto the cab and ask them to bring you to 1277. At 1277, there is a row of shops. Walk back towards the direction of the metro and there at the side is the sign in Chinese. head towards the sign and t here is another building. Turn left and walk 20m and you will hit the entrance. It is not as posh as heting but still very good. Some guy will meet you. They bring you straight to the lockers and the attendant will ask you if you want a shower first or shower above. You ask for the shower in the room. Then you leave your things and change into a robe and paper pants and they ask you to go upstairs. They will bring you tot the fish tank. I was there at about 230pm on Saturday and there was maybe 20 girls. I asked for a recommendation and he asked for the girls who were fresh to put up their hands. Chose 916, She had B cups and looks 7. Relativey bubbly. Went to the room and took off the robe and had the shower. YOu sit on the chair which was empty in the middle and they wash you. During the wash, she asked if I wanted to have a second girl. Since I rarely had a chance, I went for it. For the first girl, it was for 680 and an additional one for 400. So she came, did the soapy thing for a short while and then went to towel off and headed for the bed. The second girl(910) was also about a B cup and looks 7 as well. She was shorter and she prepared the red rope. She did it for maybe 2 rotations and then stopped. They then did the rimming with me on fours. One rimmed and the other gave me a BBBJ. The rimming was very deep and I was really turned on. Then they turned me around and mounted me. The short one first and I told her to slow down. The we changed, the tall one pulled off the condom and put on a new one. Then she mounted and I didn't last long.

After that they gave me a shabby massage and chatted themselves. a bit of a mistake but i wanted to try out 2 girls. I suppose I can chose two at the fishbowl. BUt it is quite an experience. I think I'll still to one next time. It was also for 90 mins.

Well, happy mongering and be safe!

"Thanks for your great post. Could you clarify:

1. How long is a session

2. Cost

Thanks"

To be honest. I can't recall how long it was. I assume 80min. I actually wasn't aware how long the session was allowed. Which was a bit annoying cu you're never sure if you've got time for another!

I think it was around 750RMB or thereabouts. I'm note the price and time next time.

[QUOTE=Tasss]If you're non-Chinese-looking you're definitely not getting these prices though. I[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I'm white and not Chinese looking ;-) So does that mean the prices I've been getting are alright?

Also, if you go for FS in a BBS, how long does that last? In MP the standard seems to be 90 mins, I imagine that doesn't happen in BBS. Are you always getting rushed?

[QUOTE=Chill Out]Unfortunately, I'm white and not Chinese looking ;-) So does that mean the prices I've been getting are alright?

Also, if you go for FS in a BBS, how long does that last? In MP the standard seems to be 90 mins, I imagine that doesn't happen in BBS. Are you always getting rushed?[/QUOTE]

Sure, laowai most always pays the 'tax' ;) I haven't experienced a fixed time at BBS - I think they're usually in a hurry for two reasons:
1) production (after all, BBS is the McD of sex and volume is critcal to profitibility)
2) potential LE activity - BBS don't have the staff and maze of rooms to give you time to look 'legal' (i.e.- get dressed) should LE enter the facility. Most times even for FS, the girl doesn't completely disrobe

Just need to enjoy BBS for what it is, fast, cheap, and sleazy ;)

Just my .02
Mike921

[QUOTE=Chill Out]Unfortunately, I'm white and not Chinese looking ;-) So does that mean the prices I've been getting are alright?

Also, if you go for FS in a BBS, how long does that last? In MP the standard seems to be 90 mins, I imagine that doesn't happen in BBS. Are you always getting rushed?[/QUOTE]For 300 you did OK. Being able to speak Chinese helps for sure. As Mike says there's no fixed time, though from my experience, you get just one pop and if you go for more than 20 min they start telling you to hurry up...unless she likes you.

I found though that BBSs in general are a better place to get take-out (meaning she meets you after closing time). Sauna girls are used to the higher prices, wealthier clients, 700-1000 a night. BBS girls will go for 500 a night. I also read Chinese forums similar to ISG. One poster said that he's able to get very good GFE out of a BBS girl after meeting her 3 times at her place of employment. As soon as she meets a quota of 5000 rmb/mo to the store, she's largely free to do as she likes, such as meeting you for GFE. Might not be a bad thing to try.

Mike: thanks for the feedback!

[QUOTE=Tasss]One poster said that he's able to get very good GFE out of a BBS girl after meeting her 3 times at her place of employment. [/QUOTE]Yeah that's what I was thinking. Meet a few good ones a few times, get their number, and then get them to come over straight to my place for the night. I was quoted 1000 RMB for the night by the BBS girl last time. Obviously too much. I'm not sure I would manage to get it for 500 though.