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[QUOTE=Turgid;2784250]My first trip to Palace would have been 2006/7 and even back then the girls were upselling. Back in those days I always had problems with girls upselling for what was then basic services like BBBJ, DATY etc.[/QUOTE]Before 2017, it was just DFK and rimjob on me that they tried to make it extra options, but once in awhile I got DFK often enough and even very sometimes had rimjob on me included in 50 or 60 in artemis euro 30 min standard price session! Ah whatta wonderful days we had for some years! I especially had amazing time at Artemis between 2010 till 2015 ish and palace was ok, a little more sharky than artemis, but still managed!
After 2017, we are lucky if we get DFK in standard 50 euro price session! But it is what it is and we have to deal with it now! I do not mind 100 euro 30 min or 150 euro 1 hour session as long as DFK is done properly and all are GFE level passionate sex! When it get to 200 euro per hour, then it is better off for me to just goto globe as it is in similar range!
However, in nrw in closed down during pandemic golden time and LR offered still the BBBJ in standard 50 euro 30 min sessions and even DFK! Now that they are gone and called golden gate else where, I do not know if such things are still offered at standard 30 min rate!
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2784227]What is GND stand for?[/QUOTE]Girl Next Door, I believe.
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Say what?
[QUOTE=MrHo;2784331]When it get to 200 euro per hour, then it is better off for me to just go to globe as it is in similar range![/QUOTE]I don't know how you figure that. At 200 euros for an hour in Germany I can get BBBJ / CIM for that amount. Or, I could get anal sex, making Germany far more price favorable for me to operate in versus Switzerland based on the services I like. What I would be most likely to do is get an hour with BBBJ / CIM and butt sex in the 300 euros price range. I'm not a guy who has to have kissing, so I [B]never[/B] pay extra for that. That said, I have had a lot of DFK action in the way that I desire it the most, which is just a mutual thing that happens naturally between me and the girl. But overall for a guy like me who prefers hour-long sessions with BBBJs, a CIM option (sometimes I nut in the mouth sometimes not), and anal sex Germany is far more affordable than Switzerland, and not in a similar price range at all. The next time I'm in Germany, I think I will see how the girls will react to requests for photos (without the face is fine). I wonder how many of them will be amenable to it, and if they are, then will they consent for free or demand an upcharge fee? But then again, a less threatening way to get pics is just to ask for their WhatsApp or something, then download as many photos as possible before they block you for no reason LOL! WhatsApp pictures aren't as good as pictures taken in the zimmer though. You know, like face down and exposed "pinky" or "brownie" in the air a la Brazil hahaha! Just place yer cheeks in the air! Then spread 'um like you just don't care! LOLOLOL!
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[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2784333]Girl Next Door, I believe.[/QUOTE]Ok, thanks, it makes sense now!
All these immigration into Europe made FKK the place to be to fuck many girls next door mostly from east side of Europe LOL! But from elsewhere too including real next door girls from Germany too LOL!
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2784331]Before 2017, it was just DFK and rimjob on me that they tried to make it extra options, but once in awhile I got DFK often enough and even very sometimes had rimjob on me included in 50 or 60 in artemis euro 30 min standard price session! Ah whatta wonderful days we had for some years! I especially had amazing time at Artemis between 2010 till 2015 ish and palace was ok, a little more sharky than artemis, but still managed!
After 2017, we are lucky if we get DFK in standard 50 euro price session! But it is what it is and we have to deal with it now! I do not mind 100 euro 30 min or 150 euro 1 hour session as long as DFK is done properly and all are GFE level passionate sex! When it get to 200 euro per hour, then it is better off for me to just goto globe as it is in similar range!
However, in nrw in closed down during pandemic golden time and LR offered still the BBBJ in standard 50 euro 30 min sessions and even DFK! Now that they are gone and called golden gate else where, I do not know if such things are still offered at standard 30 min rate![/QUOTE]Globe is 300/60 with CHF more than € and for mostly average looks now, not even the prettiest from Germany, when prettier girls in Germany, so I prefer to pay 200€/60 at Sharks for girls who are higher level for look and GFE. GoldenGate is 65/30 but FK is not always standard, like it was not always in Golden Time Bruggen. Can still find few GFE for 100/60 , one real at Mainhattan. Germany is best value than Globe now.
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Since you put all of your stuff in the lockers do you pay the ladies after the deed? Go to your locker before the room? Sorry for the newb question but this will be my first FKK experience!
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[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2784452]Since you put all of your stuff in the lockers do you pay the ladies after the deed? Go to your locker before the room? Sorry for the newb question but this will be my first FKK experience![/QUOTE]In FKKs you pay after.
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Money lockers
[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2784452]Since you put all of your stuff in the lockers do you pay the ladies after the deed? Go to your locker before the room? Sorry for the newb question but this will be my first FKK experience![/QUOTE]99% of FKK clubs have separate money lockers by the front desk. They are safe and under surveillance. I would not recommend leaving valuables in the locker room.
You pay the girl at the money lockers after the session.
I know some gents prefer keeping their wallet in the pocket of the bathrobe. To each their own. I always feel safer leaving the valuables in the money locker.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2784228]Palace and Artemis always has been upsell clubs, but higher price attract some stunner level girls now and then, more before than now, [/QUOTE]"Stunner level girls" can be discussed ad nauseam and people would still not agree what it is. Is it an eurasian? A blond German bombshell? A girl with a French passport? An all natural girl? A young girl? A more than 6 feet tall girl? A Thai girl? A black girl? The biggest tit girl? The biggest ass girl? The smallest ass girl? The biggest hip / waist ratio girl? A 39 kilo girl? Beauty comes in all shapes and forms.
And, can performance really be ignored?
Personally I rate Oase / Sharks over Palace / Mainhattan when it comes to having a good choice of high optics (admittedly, it's been a while since I visited Palace). That said, I have always found good options at Palace / Mainhattan, too. In the search for the bestlooking girls I would visit clubs with the largest numbers of girls (better choice). Funny enough, I find that many 150 E /60 girls are just as hot or hotter than the 200 E /60 girls. Yes, even some of the 120 E /60 and 100 E /60 girls can be just as hot (but they are hard to find).
I would encourage BlueMoon and any other firsttimer to Frankfurt to visit Sharks + as many other FKK clubs in Frankfurt that he is able to making up his own mind - visting maximum 1 club per day (keeping in mind that most clubs are unable to impress before 4- 7 pm, and that Mondays and Tuesdays are off days). Majority of first time visitors say they should have spent more time at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2784496]"Stunner level girls" can be discussed ad nauseam and people would still not agree what it is. Is it an eurasian? A blond German bombshell? A girl with a French passport? An all natural girl? A young girl? A more than 6 feet tall girl? A Thai girl? A black girl? The biggest tit girl? The biggest ass girl? The smallest ass girl? The biggest hip / waist ratio girl? A 39 kilo girl? Beauty comes in all shapes and forms.
And, can performance really be ignored?
Personally I would value Oase / Sharks over Palace / Mainhattan when it comes to having a good choice of high optics. That said, I can find goodlooking girls at Palace / Mainhattan, too. In finding the bestlooking girls I would visit clubs with the largest numbers of girls (better choice). Funny enough, I find that many 150 E /60 girls are just as hot as the 200 E /60 girls. Yes, even 120 E /60 and 100 E /60 girls can be just as hot (but they are not many).
I would encourage BlueMoon and any firsttimer to Frankfurt to visit Sharks + as many other FKK clubs in Frankfurt that he is able to and make up his own mind.[/QUOTE]I have very standard taste like a model type or any beautiful girls that can fit into the category of fashion magazine, as for performance, I can always negotiate to bring the best service, but I must say, it is annoying foreplay before the sex to negotiate, so I sometimes feel like just going to globe LOL!
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2784491]I know some gents prefer keeping their wallet in the pocket of the bathrobe.[/QUOTE]Perfect example of the worst thing you can do at FKK club. Very easy to lose your money in a few seconds.
[QUOTE=Shark16;2784491]I always feel safer leaving the valuables in the money locker.[/QUOTE]Exactly right. But be careful, don't forget to empty your money locker especially when leaving the club late like at closing time. I prefer to keep a minimal operational budget of 50/100 Euro notes in the money locker. If I have more on me, I leave the rest in the main locker, but away from the open view. The main locker rooms are also under surveillance, but to take advantage of it you must report your money loss as soon as possible. So check your valuables as often as possible, like each time you shower. My personal observation of a couple of guests complaining at front desk at 3 in the morning, it was too late, thieves already left the club, and management wasn't very cooperative. The management said "sorry, it's your responsibility, we cannot help you".
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[QUOTE=XXL;2784457]In FKKs you pay after.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Thats how I like it anyways. Makes a guy feel like they might try harder. LOL.
[QUOTE=Shark16;2784491]99% of FKK clubs have separate money lockers by the front desk. They are safe and under surveillance. I would not recommend leaving valuables in the locker room.
You pay the girl at the money lockers after the session.
I know some gents prefer keeping their wallet in the pocket of the bathrobe. To each their own. I always feel safer leaving the valuables in the money locker.[/QUOTE]Good to know. So you would leave your phone and everything in the money locker? I assume you can go back and forth on your own to the money locker? I want to bring some viagra along for the 2nd and maybe 3rd chick of the day so figure would be nice to keep it in there.
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[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2784577]
Good to know. So you would leave your phone and everything in the money locker? [/QUOTE]
Correct you leave your wallet, phones and other valuables in the money locker. But money locker is quite small, so you can not keep everything in there. Beside money locker, you also have a larger locker where you could put your bags, shoes and clothes.
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I assume you can go back and forth on your own to the money locker? I want to bring some Viagra along for the 2nd and maybe 3rd chick of the day so figure would be nice to keep it in there.[/QUOTE]Correct, you have your own locker and you keep why our own key during your stay. You definitely could keep your Viagra in there.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2784347]I don't know how you figure that. At 200 euros for an hour in Germany I can get BBBJ / CIM for that amount. Or, I could get anal sex, making Germany far more price favorable for me to operate in versus Switzerland based on the services I like. What I would be most likely to do is get an hour with BBBJ / CIM and butt sex in the 300 euros price range. I'm not a guy who has to have kissing, so I [B]never[/B] pay extra for that. That said, I have had a lot of DFK action in the way that I desire it the most, which is just a mutual thing that happens naturally between me and the girl. But overall for a guy like me who prefers hour-long sessions with BBBJs, a CIM option (sometimes I nut in the mouth sometimes not), and anal sex Germany is far more affordable than Switzerland, and not in a similar price range at all. The next time I'm in Germany, I think I will see how the girls will react to requests for photos (without the face is fine). I wonder how many of them will be amenable to it, and if they are, then will they consent for free or demand an upcharge fee? But then again, a less threatening way to get pics is just to ask for their WhatsApp or something, then download as many photos as possible before they block you for no reason LOL! WhatsApp pictures aren't as good as pictures taken in the zimmer though. You know, like face down and exposed "pinky" or "brownie" in the air a la Brazil hahaha! Just place yer cheeks in the air! Then spread 'um like you just don't care! LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]When You visit FKK land and see looks, I really liked what I saw at Sharks on Friday night, when I was disappointed on Saturday 7 January at Globe and yesterday at Freubad with all BITCCI girls but most Freubad prettiest were missing. But best of week end was car test between Basel and Dusseldorf when since 3 months, gave me hard work to feel front grip, no other car never gave me so hard job, but today, maximum acceleration to 200 with no hand, to 250 with one hand, to feel balance and grip with ass and back, and still pushing at 270 , so when will get full power after cleaning admission, will go to 300 on GPS. I think I should enjoy on 2023 .
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2784223]From last night, when I m probably one of the pickiest, with my eyes crying at Globe and not impressed at Wellcum, but they were happy at Sharks on last night. Despite the most faithful, but I will have problem to organize and with 2 German friends, but good hopes for 2023 . Positive point of bad high increasing is attracting beauties for escort rate 200/60 .[/QUOTE]This is a bit unclear. Did you visit a club in Austria, one club in Switzerland and one club in Germany during the same day?