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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2117065]Comparing prices across clubs in various cities doesn't yield much insight. There is a natural cost of living difference between cities which might explain prices to some extent but only partially so (like the Big Mac index). If a worker in London is getting paid twice as much as in Little Rock, AK it doesn't mean he will be happy when his boss gives him no raise for ten years and then says "look, you are still x percent higher than the guy in Little Rock". If we are going to make these comparisons, at least make them within the same region did wages go up in Frankfurt over time, and did they go up more than the price levels in Sharks or Oase?[/QUOTE]10 E is not much of a difference. To get a meaningful difference, you have to spend 50-100% more. 200-300 E per hours gets you Switzerland or higher end escorts which are incomparable to the FKK scene--both in looks and service.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2116960]That's interesting. I've seen some sexual services work that way, with VIPs and stars charging a higher rate. I think given the choice, most women would opt to be a 75 er, so how do you separate the two? And I'm sure a lot of the 50 ers might lie in the room. And adding so much complexity into the model. Right now, it's pretty much as simple as can be, 50 E for all.
You see the trouble that follows when there's a surcharge on kissing, anal, COF, etc.[/QUOTE]Like in 18 sauna in Macau they rate girls based on height (all above 165 cm I think which was LOL to me since I prefer them below) is added cost. Then they go on nationality. Some nationalities are more expensive (very racist and not the way to go). Then the last one is certain s&m routines (such as nuru gel, dripping wax, latex lingerie and hot / cold BJ at 18 sauna and maybe emperor) or dress codes (flight attendant, school uniform or nurse at east spa and east castle spa) you can fuck them in.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2116974]Never. But do you get better service there compared to Sharks, LivingRoom, Babylon or World because the price is higher? Is service better at Andiamo or other Austrian clubs charging 60 or 70 EUR? Don't think so.[/QUOTE]Shit service in GT Vienna with horrible upselling, but pretty good service in Wellcum and Marina, slo. No city in Germany or Aut is more expensive than Vienna though. And villash / nuevo goricia are cheap places, so the girls there are extremely relaxed even if they only catch 2 rooms a day. They do get 70 e a session tho. But it can be slow sometimes I guess, so if a NRW club or Oase or sharks had gone up to 60, they could compete better for girls against these clubs. I met a marketing guy when I was at Wellcum who said they were working on marketing the club better outside Italy as it had a lot more to go on. Many factors though as the location blows for logistics compared to NRW / Hessen who has potential for volume but also alot of competition.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2117065]Comparing prices across clubs in various cities doesn't yield much insight. There is a natural cost of living difference between cities which might explain prices to some extent but only partially so (like the Big Mac index). If a worker in London is getting paid twice as much as in Little Rock, AK it doesn't mean he will be happy when his boss gives him no raise for ten years and then says "look, you are still x percent higher than the guy in Little Rock". If we are going to make these comparisons, at least make them within the same region did wages go up in Frankfurt over time, and did they go up more than the price levels in Sharks or Oase?[/QUOTE]We all know that in the P6 market in Europe there is a big oversupply since several years driving down the prices, so many girls from Roumania are joining the market but also from Spain, etc. Just have a look on the prices for escort in the big cities in Europe compare to five year back, okay they say they are escorts but in fact they are basic prostitutes working in apartment.
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[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2117065]Comparing prices across clubs in various cities doesn't yield much insight. There is a natural cost of living difference between cities which might explain prices to some extent but only partially so (like the Big Mac index). [/QUOTE]Cost of living in Rhein Main is more or less the same in Frankfurt and around Frankfurt. Wouldn't justify a difference in pricing. Cost of living in Berlin is lower than in Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Cologne, Hamburg. Still Artemis' half hour is priced higher. Same for Andiamo in Villach.
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Service in the clubs close to the Italian border is adapted to the Italian clientele. I have heard experienced Italian mongers who live an hour drive from there and still fly to Germany because the service sucks.
If you are willing to spend the same money you do in Switzerland (about 200 to 400 EUR per hour without anal of CIM) you will get the same good service in every club in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2117127]Shit service in GT Vienna with horrible upselling, but pretty good service in Wellcum and Marina, slo. No city in Germany or Aut is more expensive than Vienna though. And villash / nuevo goricia are cheap places, so the girls there are extremely relaxed even if they only catch 2 rooms a day. They do get 70 e a session tho. But it can be slow sometimes I guess, so if a NRW club or Oase or sharks had gone up to 60, they could compete better for girls against these clubs. I met a marketing guy when I was at Wellcum who said they were working on marketing the club better outside Italy as it had a lot more to go on. Many factors though as the location blows for logistics compared to NRW / Hessen who has potential for volume but also alot of competition.[/QUOTE]I doubt that Wellcum or Andiamo can compete in terms clients due to location. There's factors of amount of clients comes into play, not only pricing. In Germany there are too many options and pricing. Outside De, most extreme example of pricing is Switzerland, but even with the pricing, the number of clients may not support enough. Girls can price higher with escorting as well, but meeting clients is much easier in clubs. Where do you think most outsiders will consider in terms of club options in the vacinity, location, and pricing? Volume is just as important.
The standard pricing in clubs isn't like wages of occupation based on location, it's mainly club based. If the region has many options, they need to stay competitive. Artemis doesn't have competition (or much) in terms of FKK. Location and exclusivity brings clients in.
Number of clubs with big LUs in regions reflect in some ways in the way clients can support those clubs for those regions.
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Hello.
Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon. Plan on visiting Oase. First timer. Any advice. I'd like to stay one or two nights there. Recommendations on hotel or Oase prices for staying the night. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport there? I also speak fluent German so that should help me out a bit. Spend 2 days there then head to different part of Germany to visit family. Thanks for any help.
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Oase first timer.
Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon and I plan on staying at hotel for 2 days or Oase if they allow overnight stays. Depending on price also. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport to Oase? First time going could use some help or advice what to do. Viagra needed or anything like that. Any recommendations?
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[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2117311]I doubt that Wellcum or Andiamo can compete in terms clients due to location. There's factors of amount of clients comes into play, not only pricing. In Germany there are too many options and pricing. Outside De, most extreme example of pricing is Switzerland, but even with the pricing, the number of clients may not support enough. Girls can price higher with escorting as well, but meeting clients is much easier in clubs. Where do you think most outsiders will consider in terms of club options in the vacinity, location, and pricing? Volume is just as important.
The standard pricing in clubs isn't like wages of occupation based on location, it's mainly club based. If the region has many options, they need to stay competitive. Artemis doesn't have competition (or much) in terms of FKK. Location and exclusivity brings clients in.
Number of clubs with big LUs in regions reflect in some ways in the way clients can support those clubs for those regions.[/QUOTE]Artemis is the only FKK club in Berlin the capital of Germany, and I am not sure at all the the business is better now that 5 years back, it is at least not my feeling when I see the poor LU and the overall low maintenance of the club. In Leipzig there is also only 1 big FKK and the business looks terrible. The mongers are really moving from one place to another and never afraid to drive 300 kilometers, the entry price, the session price and the ratio price to what you get for are the key of the success and 70 euros entry is too high for.
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PL: that's exactly what I'm saying too. And said before.
But maybe there is another factor here too: the bigger the city, and the more centrally located the club is, the more hectic the lifestyle, the more stressed the girls become. And so they upsell more.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2117341]Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon. Plan on visiting Oase. First timer. Any advice. I'd like to stay one or two nights there. Recommendations on hotel or Oase prices for staying the night. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport there? I also speak fluent German so that should help me out a bit. Spend 2 days there then head to different part of Germany to visit family. Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]Since you speak fluent German you will be perfectly fine. You can past for a local.
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2117366]Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon and I plan on staying at hotel for 2 days or Oase if they allow overnight stays. Depending on price also. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport to Oase? First time going could use some help or advice what to do. Viagra needed or anything like that. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Oase is pretty far from the airport though and is in the middle of nowhere. If this is your first FKK experience, then I would recommend that you head to Sharks at Darmstadt instead. There are one or two hotels in the vicinity that are within walking distance. You can even get there from the airport by train (just google it and there is even a youtube video on how to get there). In any case, Germany is very safe. Have fun!
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[QUOTE=VetMILFHunter;2117366]Hey guys,
I'm going to be flying to Germany soon and I plan on staying at hotel for 2 days or Oase if they allow overnight stays. Depending on price also. Safe for me to take a taxi from airport to Oase? First time going could use some help or advice what to do. Viagra needed or anything like that. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]Many reports about how to travel to it, if you are bit healthy and in good shape you don't need any pills, if you need it, that means you have no sexual attirance for the girl choose another one or don t session. Never forget that you have no stress with a prostitute except your cash she is expecting nothing from you, if you can t she will be very happy to preserve her pussy for another guy.
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Sunday 17 December.
Had still 1 free entry ticket and decided to give a new try to Oase on a Sunday, what a mistake from my side, was there at opening hour hoping to session fresh girls, but unfortunately 0 girls up to 11, spoke with some other German guys there were also very disappointed. Hour after hour some girls but also a lot of guys at the end when I left at 7 PM, ratio man to woman 5. For me 0 session today, due to very poor LU most of my favorites already left for holidays was expecting to discover new talents. This was my last FKK visit up to mid of January no need to spend, money, energy for so poor LU, it was a little bit the same yesterday at Shark. Time is coming to recharge the batteries like every year and to enjoy Christmas with my family and also to go skying.