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Agree. Weather prediction seems easy. But predictions of policians / public policy? I am personally a no-covid believer. So with that logic we could open in 4 weeks.
But that would require a super-sharp lockdown for 2-3 weeks. Like those we saw in NZ, AUS, TAIWAN etc. Since this isn't happening.
Sep-opening is realistic. I am even hoping for August! But I am an optimist.
[QUOTE=Downandup;2558788]I'm guessing that there's a very slim chance, as FKK's will be at the back of the line of openings and if the UK is a good indicator then it's going to be at least 3 months of lowering of restrictions. I'm waiting for a September opening and that could still be optimistic. It really depends on how cautious the government (and states?) will be.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2560761]Agree. Weather prediction seems easy. But predictions of policians / public policy? I am personally a no-covid believer. So with that logic we could open in 4 weeks.
But that would require a super-sharp lockdown for 2-3 weeks. Like those we saw in NZ, AUS, TAIWAN etc. Since this isn't happening.
Sep-opening is realistic. I am even hoping for August! But I am an optimist.[/QUOTE]I hope so! I'm hoping the EU opens back to Americans without needing to show proof of vaccination. I need to get my Sharks fix!
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2560761]Agree. Weather prediction seems easy. But predictions of policians / public policy? I am personally a no-covid believer. So with that logic we could open in 4 weeks.
But that would require a super-sharp lockdown for 2-3 weeks. Like those we saw in NZ, AUS, TAIWAN etc. Since this isn't happening.
Sep-opening is realistic. I am even hoping for August! But I am an optimist.[/QUOTE]Hope you're right. I'm confident that SixSense, Switzerland, and Austria will be mostly open by August, maybe even July. Germany however is a big question mark. It will be quite interesting how these places will handle vaccination status.
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560921]Hope you're right. I'm confident that SixSense, Switzerland, and Austria will be mostly open by August, maybe even July. Germany however is a big question mark. It will be quite interesting how these places will handle vaccination status.[/QUOTE]Sixsens opened yesterday but on a degraded mode.
Only three hours of presence for 50 euros.
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[QUOTE=PokePro;2560769]I hope so! I'm hoping the EU opens back to Americans without needing to show proof of vaccination. I need to get my Sharks fix![/QUOTE]That won't happen for a long time. The EU has agreed to allow visitors back from counties on a safe list with low cases but the final decision will include a requirement that visitors are fully vaccinated.
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2560921]Hope you're right. I'm confident that SixSense, Switzerland, and Austria will be mostly open by August, maybe even July. Germany however is a big question mark. It will be quite interesting how these places will handle vaccination status.[/QUOTE]According to a post on the Graz thread, Paradise is opening tomorrow. Let's hope this marks the beginning of the end of the FKK drought.
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2561024]According to a post on the Graz thread, Paradise is opening tomorrow. Let's hope this marks the beginning of the end of the FKK drought.[/QUOTE]Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2561333]Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.[/QUOTE]Well Merkel is already out so you won't have to worry about her.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2561333]Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2561412]Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.[/QUOTE]Germany just put UK as risky area with 2 weeks quarantine, even you are vaccined and even if negative test on arrival, ranked mutants area. They seemed to understand vaccined can still spread, when UK mutant killed EU on this year and now Indian mutant spreading in UK, maybe black mushroom will also follow. Germany just seem to think they already had enough deaths, around 90 000 and not finished, I won t blame them to try to protect their citizens. When we have now in France a UK mutant mutation. When 80% cases in India were under UK mutant and now Indian mutant is spreading in UK, kind of tennis.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2561412]Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.[/QUOTE]The infection rate is dropping fast because of the vaccination program, 67 per 100,000 now. It could be another month, more likely two before FKK's will be allowed to open so August is starting to look a little more promising.
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[QUOTE=Downandup;2561515]The infection rate is dropping fast because of the vaccination program, 67 per 100,000 now. It could be another month, more likely two before FKK's will be allowed to open so August is starting to look a little more promising.[/QUOTE]Just before elections? Really suicidal politics. And I wonder how it will be after holidays, when cold will return.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2561333]Not the same. I was in FKKs in Switzerland and Austria many times last summer but most FKKs in Germany, particularly Hesse, were closed. The way Markel and Germany is handing Covid, I doubt Sharks will open until next year. Germans need to wake up and vote correctly in September if they want their lives back.[/QUOTE]I fully agree, but even IF Germans will vote differently, it will take many years to rebuild much of the nation and get Germany back to the economic foundation that FKK clubs are built upon.
Here (in German) are some videos from NDR German State TV highlighting the complete FUCK UP that Germany made of the Covid1984 situation. It's not just government bureaucracy, but also a total lack of customer service and local authorities that could not organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.
Local nonsense: [URL]https://youtu.be/L_z-YW5Io7g[/URL].
More local madness: [URL]https://youtu.be/ZOeGCVXAaHE[/URL].
Hamburger business owner going bankrupt, getting no financial assistance: [URL]https://youtu.be/V24C5mHPpuk[/URL].
Unable to get vaccinated + guy told on 17th Jan that he should have quarantined 3 weeks ago: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tpI9BHEA0[/URL].
Unable to get an appointment for vaccination + chaotic Covid rules: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxccdNYLNU[/URL].
Police detectives working from home (taking criminal investigation dossiers home! But not allowed to print out anything at home: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HRol45GUBI[/URL].
The list goes on and on and on. You really couldn't make this shit up, even if you tried. LOL!
And yet people think that Germany is the country of the Autobahn, high tech, and where everything is super-organised!
Expect this chaos to continue, and heaven forbid, if the Green Party wins in September, this will mean the end of Germany as we know it. They already are talking about "Klima-Lockdowns" in Germany: shutdowns for environmental reasons! This is NOT a joke, as the German Constitutional Court in Karlshuhe has ruled that:
[QUOTE]The judges ruled that young people’s “fundamental rights to a human future” were threatened and that the law in its current state jeopardised their freedom because the goals set were too focused on dates too far in the future.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/29/historic-german-ruling-says-climate-goals-not-tough-enough[/URL]
It's a far swim across the Atlantic back to the USA for American FKK Lovers (fully vaccinated, no doubt, hahaha) who will suddenly find return flights cancelled and FKK clubs closed again because Germany locked down another time, this time to 'save the planet. ' The European radical left has tasted blood and lockdowns in combination with Covid-Ecological scaremongering are effective tools to implement their neo-Marxist world views through the backdoor.
[URL]https://www.die-gdi.de/en/the-current-column/article/from-covid-19-to-climate-action/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2560951]Sixsens opened yesterday but on a degraded mode.
Only three hours of presence for 50 euros.[/QUOTE]Wow. Do they allow you to spend another 3 hours if you pay up 50 more? Or do you have to exit, stand in the line again and pay 50 to get back in?
Unless you want to meet up w / a specific girl that you like very much it appears to me that you are better off paying some hooker outside the club, if you need a release that badly.
How is the 3 hour period monitored and enforced?
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2561696]I fully agree, but even IF Germans will vote differently, it will take many years to rebuild much of the nation and get Germany back to the economic foundation that FKK clubs are built upon.
Here (in German) are some videos from NDR German State TV highlighting the complete FUCK UP that Germany made of the Covid1984 situation. It's not just government bureaucracy, but also a total lack of customer service and local authorities that could not organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.
Local nonsense: [URL]https://youtu.be/L_z-YW5Io7g[/URL].
More local madness: [URL]https://youtu.be/ZOeGCVXAaHE[/URL].
Hamburger business owner going bankrupt, getting no financial assistance: [URL]https://youtu.be/V24C5mHPpuk[/URL].
Unable to get vaccinated + guy told on 17th Jan that he should have quarantined 3 weeks ago: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tpI9BHEA0[/URL].
Unable to get an appointment for vaccination + chaotic Covid rules: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxccdNYLNU[/URL].
Police detectives working from home (taking criminal investigation dossiers home! But not allowed to print out anything at home: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HRol45GUBI[/URL].
The list goes on and on and on. You really couldn't make this shit up, even if you tried. LOL![/QUOTE]Well done.
An astute assessment on the current conditions.
Good resources of information and facts that back the sentiments in Germany.
Slightly on the negative side but good to know how a "segment of the population" lives in the current situation in German.