American Politics

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544120]This man is hardly a victim. He's a willing promoter of extreme lies and paranoia. In another post he claims that the attack against the USS Liberty in 1967 (for which Israel apologized and paid millions in damages) was deliberate; you have to be a complete and hopeless kook, provocateur, or both to claim that Israel would've deliberately attacked a military ship of its most important ally in the world -- why on earth would they have ever done that?

The so-called Millennium Report is published by the so-called Discover the Networks (whatever that's supposed to mean) run by the David Horowitz so-called Freedom Center. According to https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/discover-the-networks is a questionable source:
[/QUOTE]Why did Israel attack the USS Liberty? Because it was conducting surveillance on the illegal activities of their military during the Six Day war.

As for the so-called "Mediabiasfactcheck"? LOL. Globo-leftist propaganda site. I wouldn't be surprised to find that was funded by Soros too. Or another of his globalist ilk.

But thanks for confirming that the Millennium Report is indeed an entirely American-run site with nothing to do with Russia, debunking the silly conspiracy theory of John Clayton.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544045]Perhaps because supporting Israel, which is not just the only democracy, but also our only true friend and ally in that super-volatile part of the world is a no-brainer?[/QUOTE]With friends like Israel, who needs enemies?

[QUOTE=Golfinho;2544179]With friends like Israel, who needs enemies?[/QUOTE]Funny I mentioned Jonathan Pollard last week; he was in the news this week from his home in Israel, where he was given a hero's welcome following his prison sentence for espionage against the USA. He gave an interview stating that Jews will always have dual loyalties, and called on American Jews to follow in his footsteps and spy for Israel. [URL]https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-blunt-interview-pollard-claims-jews-will-always-have-dual-loyalty/[/URL].

On another note, John Clayton has been awfully quiet since his assertion that the Millennium Report is run by "a guy in Leningrad". Any more info on that guy, John?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2545102]On another note, John Clayton has been awfully quiet since his assertion that the Millennium Report is run by "a guy in Leningrad". Any more info on that guy, John?[/QUOTE]He went antiquing with his Uncle Jack.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2545407]He went antiquing with his Uncle Jack.[/QUOTE]Don't know who Uncle Jack is but you just described my #1 hobby, and more and more of that can be done online.

At the end of the day one should only devote so much time to arguing with bigots over the internet. As a rule of thumb, if you'd ignore them in real life do the same in cyberspace, though a bit of indulgence now and again is okay.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2544117]Very well said. At least there are a few people left that possess the ability to remove their head from their ass. Still waiting to hear from all of those Biden supporters about the great things he has done so far.[/QUOTE]I am not a Biden fan but you have to admit he has a great plan to pay for what he is spending.

Stimulus money $1. 9 Trillion.

Infrastructure spending $3 Trillion.

Another stimulus $2 Trillion.

For a total spending of $6. 9 trillion.

He is going to pay for it by raising taxes on the rich which will generate $2. 5 Trillion over the next 10 years. If he doesn't spend anything his 2nd to 4th year the USA taxpayers will only owe $4. 4 Trillion plus interest after 10 years. Wry few presidents had this great budget plan. But Biden will be dead and he won't see our kids and grandkids trying to pay for his amazing budget.

[QUOTE=Canada;2545740]I am not a Biden fan but you have to admit he has a great plan to pay for what he is spending.

Stimulus money $1. 9 Trillion.

Infrastructure spending $3 Trillion.

Another stimulus $2 Trillion.

For a total spending of $6. 9 trillion.

He is going to pay for it by raising taxes on the rich which will generate $2. 5 Trillion over the next 10 years. If he doesn't spend anything his 2nd to 4th year the USA taxpayers will only owe $4. 4 Trillion plus interest after 10 years. Wry few presidents had this great budget plan. But Biden will be dead and he won't see our kids and grandkids trying to pay for his amazing budget.[/QUOTE]I was born in 1958 and I never was taxed and paid for World war II, where my dad was wounded in that deficit funded effort.

For around 80 years the Federal Government borrows what it needs, and prints money to pay back the debt. Seems it satisfies enough of what we need.

The prior system (backing USA Currency with scarce, precious metals) was too restricting, that's why we don't have it anymore.

You ought to learn that Canada.

[QUOTE=Canada;2545740]I am not a Biden fan ...see our kids and grandkids trying to pay for his amazing budget.[/QUOTE]Your attempt at irony. I remember my Uncle Euan, who was a top top top Republican banker, taking me, as a six year old (early in Eisenhower's first term), and lecturing me about the WWII debt. "Do you realize how much that is? 300 billion dollars. 300 Biliion!. You and your children and your children's children will be paying that!" he was practically frothing -- very frightening. And, of course, I was afraid even though I had no idea of what a billion was. Whatever happened to that WWII debt? Does anyone talk about it anymore. Do my children's children even know what the hell it is?

I think my exposure to Euan made me very leary of debt as a person. I have never had any except, briefly, a home mortgage, and yet I realize that National debt is different than household debt for several reasons. Principally, especially since 1971, we've been able to create money out of nothing with no penalty (because we are the World currency). Also, since 1990 we've been able to long term borrow at less than 6%.

Now, as an owner of capital, my interests are opposed to its devaluation. Thanks to Uncle Euan, deficit spending still seems morally wrong to me; however, I recognize, based on the evidence, that is good.

[QUOTE=Canada;2545740]I am not a Biden fan but you have to admit he has a great plan to pay for what he is spending.

Stimulus money $1. 9 Trillion.

Infrastructure spending $3 Trillion.

Another stimulus $2 Trillion.

For a total spending of $6. 9 trillion.

He is going to pay for it by raising taxes on the rich which will generate $2. 5 Trillion over the next 10 years. If he doesn't spend anything his 2nd to 4th year the USA taxpayers will only owe $4. 4 Trillion plus interest after 10 years. Wry few presidents had this great budget plan. But Biden will be dead and he won't see our kids and grandkids trying to pay for his amazing budget.[/QUOTE]Right now the bar is set so low that Krusty the Clown could perform at a higher level than the previous administration; that being said, The laws have been skewed to the advantage of rich old white men that reforming the tax burden of the top 10% should be seen more as a market correction than any "redistribution of wealth" BS. I would take it a step further and suspend all tax relief to corporate welfare queens like Exxon, the NFL and the Catholic Church. Vast amounts could be saved in Defense while actually strengthening our military by simply listening to what the field grade Generals are asking for instead of letting Congress belly up to the trough with pork barrel, feel-good contracts like new tanks in an world where the possibility of WWII style tank battles will be fought is as unlikely as need for a steam driven ironclad- we learned that with the First Gulf War and the "Highway of Death". Somebody at the Capital is playing too much Battle Tank.

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2545749]Your attempt at irony. I remember my Uncle Euan, who was a top top top Republican banker, taking me, as a six year old (early in Eisenhower's first term), and lecturing me about the WWII debt. "Do you realize how much that is? 300 billion dollars. 300 Biliion!. You and your children and your children's children will be paying that!" he was practically frothing -- very frightening. And, of course, I was afraid even though I had no idea of what a billion was. Whatever happened to that WWII debt? Does anyone talk about it anymore. Do my children's children even know what the hell it is?

I think my exposure to Euan made me very leary of debt as a person. I have never had any except, briefly, a home mortgage, and yet I realize that National debt is different than household debt for several reasons. Principally, especially since 1971, we've been able to create money out of nothing with no penalty (because we are the World currency). Also, since 1990 we've been able to long term borrow at less than 6%.

Now, as an owner of capital, my interests are opposed to its devaluation. Thanks to Uncle Euan, deficit spending still seems morally wrong to me; however, I recognize, based on the evidence, that is good.[/QUOTE]That $300 B your Uncle Euan was talking about was known as "The Marshall Plan", and it created two of the USA's greatest trading partners and military allies. It's probably the best single investment the US government has made, second only the Jefferson's Louisiana Purchase. That $300 B investment in a devastated Europe and Japan has returned hundreds of trillions in return in trade only, without even getting to how the NATO alliance kept us safe during the Cold War.

What your Uncle Euan was hinting at was that someone should pay that back- which is essentially code for reparations. They tried that with WWI- The Germans borried money to pay back the French and English, who borrowed from the USA- the only nation that actually profited from WWI- at least Germany defaulted, which caused France and England to default, which in turned triggered the Great Depression. That would have been nice to avoid.

Stimulus vs Austerity and Reparations- this is something we know beyond the shadow of a doubt. History tells us that when we invested in Europe we gave them the tools to climb out of the devastation of WWII. Can you imagine how much that stimulus could benefit us if we spent it on US?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2544045]Perhaps because supporting Israel, which is not just the only democracy, but also our only true friend and ally in that super-volatile part of the world is a no-brainer?[/QUOTE]That's how it's supposed to work, funny that. In reality, they are the single biggest recipient of US foreign aid of any nation on earth since WWII. They're a highly industrialized society with booming tech and military industries. In reality, Israel has become a political third rail that gets politicians elected in big swing states, especially when they secure or increase Israeii aid. Add to that the oft-mentioned hero worship of Jonathan Pollard kind of undermines the whole "bestie" myth. I've never trusted anyone whose friendship I had to buy. Opposition to Israeli aid isn't anti-semitism, it's anti-pork barrel spending and anti political corruption. I would go further to say that far from being a solution to the violence in the Middle East, Israel and it's creation in 1948 is THE SOURCE of the conflict. Shia' and Shi'ite have had an uneasy peace for centuries, at least as much as any other region. The catalyst for crisis in the region is Israel and their extreme right rhetoric and land grabbing greed- not to mention a healthy dose of hypocrisy in terms of the manner in which they both claim to be victims on the one hand and treat the Palestinians as sub-human on the other...

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2544070]George Soros is a 90 year old man who escaped the Nazis in WWII. He funds a single foundation, which promotes open, democratic societies.[/QUOTE]Soros bought his way out and to the USA after profiting off fire sale assets from his fellow jews eager to liquidate their property. This is well-known; he acknowledges as much himself.

As for his 'support' of democracy: Constitutional Democracies are a form of government that has proven itself to be susceptible to corruption and subversion. What's not to like about democracy for a Soros with the cash to grease the wheels, to 'open' a democracy?

[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2544514]The trouble with marrying Asian women is that very few have any intellectual curiosity. That is, they don't know what they don't know and never want to find out. Everything is dumbed down to them and they can't see beyond their home and family. Parents, siblings, kids, house, car, handbags and then the foreign dick in that order. They have absolutely no interest in anything else. This includes Thais, Filipinas and Indonesians. Perhaps even Japanese. They are quite content to live in a vacuum, blow their husbands money, while not wanting to better themselves, improve their knowledge and become worldly. The only group which has a thirst for knowledge and wants to better itself are the Chinese. I guess that's how they have dominated most of the Asian countries for the past 1,000 years and now the West. There is no end to their ambition.

I do know a half-Filipina here. Despite her upper class education at Ateneo de Manila, her intellect is at the Aussie senior high school level here. Nothing wrong with that as the Aussie blokes only want a tight pussy on a small 40 kg frame. Pfft, they are not chasing Filipinas for simulating social intercourse, only sexual intercourse. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]You think the problem is limited to the Philippines? Or to Asia? Quite recently 74 million Americans with no critical thinking ability, no reasoning ability, no affinity for science or simple logic, but wholly embrace insane conspiracy theories voted to return a psychopath to the White House. Evidently, the problem is not peculiar to Asia.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2545763]You think the problem is limited to the Philippines? Or to Asia? Quite recently 74 million Americans with no critical thinking ability, no reasoning ability, no affinity for science or simple logic, but wholly embrace insane conspiracy theories voted to return a psychopath to the White House. Evidently, the problem is not peculiar to Asia.

GE.[/QUOTE]As has been pointed out before, there are far better sites than a prostitution forum to voice your political opinions. You may PM me for direction to those sites.

BTW, he and his 74 million followers were robbed.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2545755]That's how it's supposed to work, funny that. In reality, they are the single biggest recipient of US foreign aid of any nation on earth since WWII. They're a highly industrialized society with booming tech and military industries. In reality, Israel has become a political third rail that gets politicians elected in big swing states, especially when they secure or increase Israeii aid. Add to that the oft-mentioned hero worship of Jonathan Pollard kind of undermines the whole "bestie" myth. I've never trusted anyone whose friendship I had to buy. Opposition to Israeli aid isn't anti-semitism, it's anti-pork barrel spending and anti political corruption. I would go further to say that far from being a solution to the violence in the Middle East, Israel and it's creation in 1948 is THE SOURCE of the conflict. Shia' and Shi'ite have had an uneasy peace for centuries, at least as much as any other region. The catalyst for crisis in the region is Israel and their extreme right rhetoric and land grabbing greed- not to mention a healthy dose of hypocrisy in terms of the manner in which they both claim to be victims on the one hand and treat the Palestinians as sub-human on the other...[/QUOTE]Good post except you didn't debunk the old democracy. When you expel the people from your land that you don't like or don't agree with at gunpoint then you are not a democracy. Allow gaza and the west bank residents to vote in your elections then you become a democracy.