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[QUOTE=RoyMiller;2165651]They boast about their 4-some and 8-some parties, constantly providing free and constant publicity to the agencies that help them. Nobody ever bothers to mention, or ask, how much these escapades cost. Full freight? I doubt very much[/QUOTE]This reminds me of the Money Grab involving the abuser of girls, AKA " Da Greatness ".

Best Regards
Smuler

[QUOTE=RoyMiller;2165651]TThey boast about their 4-some and 8-some parties, constantly providing free and constant publicity to the agencies that help them. Nobody ever bothers to mention, or ask, how much these escapades cost. Full freight? I doubt very much.[/QUOTE]They go to dinner with these girls too (and drive them home afterwards), so there's obviously much more than the usual service extended to these people. Personally I don't have a problem with it. They are likely the agency's best clients. It's smart to give them special deals.

A slight side effect is that I've heard from some on the local board. That the posts about the backslapping orgies that the lonely boys club have with the XO girls is actually a turn-off for many people. Several people have indicated this, and I agree with it as well. They don't sound erotic. They usually just sound a bit sad. I'm sure XO isn't worried, but they have lost some business as a result of those posts.

Anyone know why it's down?

[blue]Traffic has increased 400% in the last week in the USG Forum, and the consequence is we have problem with our servers, but we are working ASAP to be functioning normally.

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[QUOTE=Jeep1995;2166069]Anyone know why it's down?

[blue]Traffic has increased 400% in the last week in the USG Forum, and the consequence is we have problem with our servers, but we are working ASAP to be functioning normally.

A3[/blue][/QUOTE]If the USA Guide is outside the jurisdiction of USA Law enforcement (and I think it is), this massive uptick in traffic makes sense. As of last week, American mongers can't get any information from their usual sources.

What always concerned me is how the USA Government was able to get backpage and a few other sites to block USA Access to pages regarding Canadian escorts.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2166062]A slight side effect is that I've heard from some on the local board. That the posts about the backslapping orgies that the lonely boys club have with the XO girls is actually a turn-off for many people. Several people have indicated this, and I agree with it as well. They don't sound erotic. They usually just sound a bit sad. I'm sure XO isn't worried, but they have lost some business as a result of those posts.[/QUOTE]It is a turn-off for men who want more of a one-on-one interlude perhaps with some allusion of romance. Not everyone is interested a porn star experience with a woman who just banged four guys at the same time yesterday afternoon.

I'm not judging, but some discretion is always warranted.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz;2166062]They go to dinner with these girls too (and drive them home afterwards), so there's obviously much more than the usual service extended to these people. Personally I don't have a problem with it. They are likely the agency's best clients. It's smart to give them special deals.[/QUOTE]Indeed, it makes perfect business sense, even though these guys seem to read more into this privileged access than what it usually is. And it's not uncommon, or unique to XO; I've had the opportunity to do the same over the years with ladies working at various agencies, indies, etc. , and I know of other hobbyists in Montreal who have had similar opportunities. Ultimately it's a mark of trust. Reading more than that into it, like these guys do by the way they're bragging, leads to answers one might not want to hear. But it's part of the game.

XO is not unique in Montreal in having a group of hardcore clients who will write nothing but extremely positive reviews, and will attack anyone writing a negative review, without the agency being necessarily involved. Other agencies have gone through the same cycle; Euphoria more recently, and before that, GoodGirls, MTLGFE (now Mike's Mansion), WildTime, and back in the day Eleganza and Devilish, to name a few. But the latter was known to have people writing fake reviews on its behalf, which contributed to its immense popularity before it eventually faded and disappeared. Same for GoodGirls at its peak.

There are high-profile members who also have been exposed as mercenaries. One even admitted on the local board a few years ago writing positive reviews in exchange of discounts. He was banned for it, but then allowed back by the moderation, only to pick up where he left off.

XO has refined these practices by also giving deep discounts to its best clients, and by giving privileged access to those who even invest in the agency. This has been known for a while now back channel, but has not been revealed mostly because of the fear of reprisals by the agency.

None of this is unique to XO or even the Montreal scene, but when one wonders why so many of the reviews on the local board are dedicated to XO, this partly explains what's going on. Should it come to light on the local board, this would certainly raise questions about the authenticity of many reviews. None of this changes the fact that XO has one of the largest rosters in Montreal, is therefore almost unavoidable when hobbying in Montreal, and has some ladies who do merit the vast amount of positive reviews they have received (Shelly, for instance).

It's for the lesser reviewed girls on the roster that these behind-the-scene machinations should be kept in mind when reading feedback about them.

[QUOTE=Smuler;2165955]This reminds me of the Money Grab involving the abuser of girls, AKA " Da Greatness "[/QUOTE]Like Smuler points out, the 4-some, 6-some and 8-some XO parties which have become an attraction on the local board, are in fact the second foray of the agency into these kinds of activities. A few months after its launch in 2016, the agency was evidently struggling before it managed to attract Anastasia from Euphoria, for a higher rate, a movement that led to other girls with a high-profile joining the agency soon afterwards, Jennifer most notably.

A big boost also came from the orgies organized by the "the Greatness", a local hobbyist, where guys would pay a little fortune to meet some of the XO girls at a private party, followed by a fuck fest. The amount paid by each guest was so such that the organizer was essentially having sex with the girls for free, and Sam (the agency owner) was pocketing his normal fee while his agency was enjoying renewed attention on the local board.

There were a couple of hiccups with this: apparently while Sam only saw benefits to this operation, most of the girls on his roster wanted nothing to do with these parties and especially with "the Greatness", as he kept disrespecting their boundaries, was rough with them, to the point where some were about to leave. What led to the demise of the parties was the revelation back channel that "the Greatness" was black listed by other agencies and massage parlours for the same kind of behaviour. He even went as far as choking a girl without her consent. She left the scene soon after and that was the last straw.

Forward a few months later, and Sam is now approached by another member of the local board, "detour", who proposes to organize the same kind of parties. Like others have expressed here, these parties have little appeal to me, but it's clear that XO is enjoying a lot of free publicity once again because of them. Sam must figure out that the few clients he's losing because of their distaste for the parties is more than made by new clients who are intrigued.

What surprisingly hasn't been brought up yet on the local board is that the organizer of these new parties has a rather shady past. He was formerly known as "crzyhen" and was exposed a stalker, after it was revealed that he had written fake reviews against Lana Jolie (now Heaven at Euphoria) after she became concerned with his obsession for her. Most of this has been redacted by the moderation in her thread but there are still traces of it.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2135666]I've been amused with this local MTL forum thread for a girl named "Indy of the Year 2017". From her website photos and videos, you can clearly see she is a nubile bombshell with more natural curves than one would think possible. Almost every reviewer raves about this 18 (or 19) year-old's performance and empathy with her clients. She also has a knack for cancelling appointments at the last minute. Since she made a big splash on the scene last year, this little habit has followed her from two quick stints in and out of two premier MTL agencies and back and forth into the indy world.

Of course the chivalrous knights (or should I say chevaliers) on the local forum, come to this damsel's defense either proclaiming her cancellations are limited or that they shouldn't even be posted on the forum. What's odd is that the forum deleted her reviews under a different name from the first half of 2017 where you see this habit trending and taking shape. And while you ask, yes she is an advertiser on the forum[/QUOTE]She's again on the move and is back as an indy once again.

FYI, she's had more than one review thread deleted, and has been reviewed on the local board before 2017. She was first reviewed by the "Hunter of Gems" in 2015 after he found her ad on one of the French ad sites. She was known as Megan White back then. The "Hunter of Gems" became her champion on the board and took her under his wing, becoming her unofficial "manager". She changed her name to Daria Costa and started to advertise on the local board. Her "manager" during that period kept writing reviews about her, without disclosing his role, while contacting by PM other veteran board members to promote her and set up bookings.

Then she disappeared abruptly from the scene and the local board in early 2016. All her ads disappeared as well as her reviews, and any mention of her. While the "Hunter of gems" has kept a low profile since then, avoiding public gatherings, word on the street is that he started to "help" her again when she came back on the scene last year, as Louna. Her initial reviews as Louna kept mentioning her prior names, prompting the moderation to delete those reviews as well.

Any mention of Megan White or Daria Costa gets deleted as soon as the moderation sees it, and it's likely that the members who keep persisting at posting this information, get banned.

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OK gentlemen, my trip starts today and I have one last decision to make. I can't seem to find and reviews of Eliane at XO except a oragy review on the local board. She's nice body, and lite eyes which is up my ally. So if anyone has any intel it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance and trip review will be posted when in a week.

Monger in the 718.

Roy Miller,

Thanks for the incite. While some will consider it idle talk, it helps me and others understand the dynamics of the Montreal monger community. It would be great if we could get more Montreal guys here posting unabashed reviews. The [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130][CodeWord130][/url] nature of the local forum certainly places a ceiling limit on its value especially for out of towners. I quickly noticed that there are a lot of decent contributors who get banned. Whenever the local knights (chevaliers) gang up on a guy for a bad review, posters who have tried to offer encouragement to the attacked party have their support deleted by the moderator. If you see that a few times, you realize there is a bit of a game going on. Perhaps the moderator leaves the bad review posted, but helps set the example that there are consequences and your opinions will be criticized ad nauseum.

Your post about Gaia, (aka Louna, Megan White or Daria Costa) is hilarious. It probably also means that she's not a teenager. Not that it makes a difference to me, but I think some guys like them the younger the better. In any event, she's far from her first rodeo. She seems like a hustler. If you can get an appointment, get her to keep the appointment and the sex is good, it probably doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=RoyMiller;2166578]What surprisingly hasn't been brought up yet on the local board is that the organizer of these new parties has a rather shady past. He was formerly known as "crzyhen" and was EXPOSED A STALKER, after it was revealed that he had written fake reviews against Lana Jolie (now Heaven at Euphoria) after she became concerned with his obsession for her. Most of this has been redacted by the moderation in her thread but there are still traces of it.[/QUOTE]And today, he throws the scent off himself, by posting that he is the HERO of Sp's and is aghast that a girl was outed. He then "warned the girls" to be on the lookout for evil mongers LOL.

Best Regards
Smuler

Thanks for the interesting history lesson. It's all quite revelatory, though unfortunately not too surprising.

[QUOTE=RoyMiller;2165651] . ..As some pointed out before, the local market has recently started to gravitate around a couple of agencies and others in the periphery are faltering (XXXtase being an example). There are fewer reviews, people focus on the agencies and girls for which more information is available. It's a vicious circle that benefits only a few players...[/QUOTE]I think it's always been a pattern on the Montreal scene that a couple of agencies develop great rosters of girls (at least based on photos and reviews), then become wildly popular and get a huge amount of attention from everyone. The agencies and reviewers change over the years but the pattern remains the same.

Once an agency becomes one of the top two or three most popular on the Montreal board, I tend to avoid it. It's not that I wouldn't book a girl from an agency that is really popular, but I like to discover hidden gems among the smaller, lower profile agencies. Some that I would recommend are Montreal Sex City, Asservissante and Wild Time. If you choose carefully, there are still some great girls at those agencies.

You gentlemen have gave me a lot of good info. I am on day three of a three day trip here to Montreal with the sole purpose of mongering. I will give a detailed trip report with no punches held. My group has seen the top girls of the top 3 agencies and 1 very special massage parlor. So I'm going back in to the jungle for an other 24 hours and will report back with a honest report. We are in the hobby and any " local knight " sickens me. Have some pride guys and help out the next guy with honest reviews and feedback. These are working girls, not girls your dating.

Stay tuned.

Line up.

XO, Let me start off by saying that all top must see girls where not working (Amanda, Scarlet, Meghan, Catherine).

Adriana.

Dasha.

Noemie* Booked and Canceled 15 minutes after start time.

Safia.

Savannah* Booked and Canceled.

Euphoria girls.

Dahlia.

Heaven.

Mila.

Victoria Mini.

Taylor * Canceled last Min .

Mikes Mansion.

Kelly.

Mischa.

Vog.

Nikita.

Casey ** wouldn't book with us.

Katrina.

Velvet Love Montreal.

Sweet Kylie.

I will review each girl separately and give my experience with booking with each agency.

Stay tuned.

Greg Solo.