Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2128988]When a girl travels to work those Pattaya/Bangkok sois and then reports back home how things are going, do we think her even hotter younger sisters are inspired to come down to join her if big sis says she can only squeak out 1,000-1,500 baht on a good night or if she can honestly report that often she pulls 2,000-2,500 baht for just an hour's work?[/QUOTE]If I was making 150 baht in the hot sun all day on a rice or rubber farm then "I'll take Change Career to Party Girl for 1,000 Alex". It sounds like nothing to you, but it ain't nothing to them. You mean if you had an opportunity to make 8 times the money the easy way you would stay making 150 the hard way? I doubt it.

Another thing you are missing is that the chicks do not think they are an "even hotter" younger sister. If they thought that, they would be somewhere trying to model instead of sell pussy. It is guys that fill their heads with that after they arrive and start offering them 2,500. Stop putting hoes on a pedastal.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129011]If I was making 150 baht in the hot sun all day on a rice or rubber farm then "I'll take Change Career to Party Girl for 1,000 Alex". It sounds like nothing to you, but it ain't nothing to them. You mean if you had an opportunity to make 8 times the money the easy way you would stay making 150 the hard way? I doubt it.

Another thing you are missing is that the chicks do not think they are an "even hotter" younger sister. If they thought that, they would be somewhere trying to model instead of sell pussy. It is guys that fill their heads with that after they arrive and start offering them 2,500. Stop putting hoes on a pedastal.[/QUOTE]No problem finding large numbers of girls with a low self-image (all too often justifiably so) choosing P4P for virtually any amount of money over working all day in the hot sun on a rice or rubber farm for 150 baht. Nobody has said the sois and beer bars are empty of girls like that.

But, in today's economic environment, better looking ones with some concept of what a man might actually trade good money for have many other possible stops on the way they can try before they wind up on Beach Road and Soi 6 in Pattaya or Sukhumvit and Soi 4 in Bangkok. And I'm not saying it wouldn't involve putting out for it in some way like almost every other woman on the Planet. Just that the level of payment she is looking for no longer only exists in the pockets of the tourists she is currently likely to encounter in the bar districts.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2129009]I did not negotiate. I got her Line when I went to the gogo. She came over one night after work. The next day when she left I gave her what I was going to give her. What I liked about her is that when she walked through the door at 3 am she saw me putting away my laundry and she told me to relax and let her do it.[/QUOTE]OK, so noted, but I know from previous posts that you are.

My last romp from Insomnia I paid 1200 for, and I also did not negotiate. I was actually not very interested in her but she attached herself to me and after closing she stalked me all the way back to the hotel. LOL.

Turned out to be a really good lay. We had lunch together the next day and when we parted ways, I simply gave her 1200, after which she wai-ed and expressed a wish to see me soon again. Smiles all around.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2129017]OK, so noted, but I know from previous posts that you are.

My last romp from Insomnia I paid 1200 for, and I also did not negotiate. I was actually not very interested in her but she attached herself to me and after closing she stalked me all the way back to the hotel. LOL.

Turned out to be a really good lay. We had lunch together the next day and when we parted ways, I simply gave her 1200, after which she wai-ed and expressed a wish to see me soon again. Smiles all around.[/QUOTE]What time of night or early morning was that? I think that can often have a lot to do with whether a P4P girl even mentions how much or bothers to engage in negotiation above 1,000-1,500 baht.

For example, IMO, it shouldn't require much money negotiation at all to get a typical Pattaya go-go girl to come over after putting in her regular hours and she's looking for a place to crash and sleep off the booze and partying. However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational]I did not negotiate. I got her Line when I went to the gogo. She came over one night after work. The next day when she left I gave her what I was going to give her. What I liked about her is that when she walked through the door at 3 am she saw me putting away my laundry and she told me to relax and let her do it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2129028] However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.[/QUOTE]Doesn't this depend on what time they leave? Many don't leave until they have to go to work the following day at 7 pm. Having a nice place really helps girls selecting you over someone else for a 'freebie' night.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2129033]Doesn't this depend on what time they leave? Many don't leave until they have to go to work the following day at 7 pm. Having a nice place really helps girls selecting you over someone else for a 'freebie' night.[/QUOTE]Partially, yes. If your schedule is also to sleep from 8 AM to 2 PM every day and have sex before and after. Mine isn't. Not anymore. I used to think I was getting a great deal when the girl came to my room after her regular work shift and, gee, I can dodge the barfine and lady drink bit. What a deal for me, right? But over time I realized I wasn't getting any kind of great deal at all. I'm getting her when she is dog tired, drunk, cranky, no longer thinking in "provide value for money" mode and primarily seeing my place to crash as a means to essentially add an additional 800 baht or so to what I'm going to pay her in place of her paying for a room on her own, taxi back and forth, whatever.

The guy who bought her a couple of Lady Drinks, paid the 700 baht barfine and took her out for ST at 9:30 PM got a much better deal than most "After Hours" lucky lottery winners get, imo. LOL.

I no longer agree to that deal even when it is offered for "free", which it is offered when you are an expat more often than most think.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2129028]What time of night or early morning was that? [/QUOTE]As stated "after closing". This must have been the new earlier closing time (whatever that was back in November last year).

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2129028]
For example, IMO, it shouldn't require much money negotiation at all to get a typical Pattaya go-go girl to come over after putting in her regular hours and she's looking for a place to crash and sleep off the booze and partying. However, anything starting as late as 3 AM would not be a real "Long Time" as far as I am concerned anyway.[/QUOTE]That's true. I once "pulled" a bar beer girl from Soi 7 or 8 (yes a verified lady) for 1000 LT. She later confessed that she hated the stay-in conditions. Very good lay too. I find that that quality of sex often correlates inversely with price paid.

My 1200 LT must have stayed about 8 hrs and qualifies as LT in my book. I can usually use that time quite productively, and I don't care much for the diminishing returns of longer time, plus the added feeding costs, shopping / tipping suggestions etc.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2129047]My 1200 LT must have stayed about 8 hrs and qualifies as LT in my book. I can usually use that time quite productively, and I don't care much for the diminishing returns of longer time, plus the added feeding costs, shopping / tipping suggestions etc.[/QUOTE]As an aside on a related issue, the girls are on a time schedule, too, of course. I have found when taking a girl for ST from a barfine/Lady Drink type venue like a go-go bar or a beer bar at a given time of the evening, it is worth taking into account her bar's closing time and factor that into how it can influence the value and quality of my experience with her:

Assuming her bar closes at 2 AM in these examples, but if it closes at a different time, adjust up or down accordingly:

1) Taking the girl for ST in the 9 PM hour offers the best actual sex, not "best" based on you or her being shitfaced drunk and not knowing the difference between good, bad or no sex at all. She is also in no hurry since there will be plenty of time for her to return to the bar and have a shot at a second barfine.

2) Taking the girl for ST in the 10 PM hour raises the chance of her rushing you through the process. Look for how often the girls you take in that hour have no interest in stopping for a drink in another bar where her "cousin" works, having a bit of food first, languishing about your room to enjoy the ambiance before getting into action and so on. That is because if she can get this ST over within 2 hours max she'll have a full two hours left, the final two hours, back in her bar to score another customer. Not a good time for her to stop looking at her watch and just go with the flow.

3) The 11 PM hour is anybody's guess. She might think she can rush you through the ST at lightning speed and be back to her bar before Midnight for that shot at her second customer. Then again, she might decide this is a dull night in the bar so why not do her thing with you for however long it takes and go home instead of back to the bar. Worst case scenario if she takes the second option is that she wants you to be her last "bar" customer tonight so she can rush to meet her Thai boyfriend at an earlier hour than usual without her having to explain why she didn't go back to the bar to make more money. So she'll be in a rush for a different reason.

4) Taking the girl for ST at or after Midnight raises the possibility that she will consider you her final "bar" customer of the night since she likely would not have time to return to the bar for much of anything before closing. Therefore, you're the guy she pleads with to stop in at this or that bar to buy her and her "cousins" a few drinks, maybe barfine them out for the night, too. Party time? Maybe. But bear in mind her "cousins" will all be girls who probably have not had a Lady Drink bought for them all night or a barfine paid for them all week. Connect the dots on that one.

5) Taking the girl during the last hour before the bar closes, in this example the 1 AM hour, is a bit foolish if you're going to be buying Lady Drinks and paying barfines, imo. Why not get her Line number and just meet her outside in 20 minutes, right? Yes, and that is where you will be getting her at her drunkest, probably your drunkest, she's tired, cranky, might only want to sleep as soon as possible and, at the very least, is no longer in a "provide value for money" mode since she quite rightly could very well assume you aren't going to pay her very much anyway, you Lady Drink-dodging, barfine-avoiding Cheap Charlie, you. LOL.

On my last night in Pattaya, I was headed to WS at around 8 pm when I ran into this 24 year old girl across the street from Mikes Shopping Mall. She was working the beach side of the strip. We had a brief introduction convo and she asked for 2000 for long time until 3pm the next day. So we ended going back to her condo, where she changed and grabbed some clothes, so we could go out to dinner. After dinner, we went back to my room and banged all night. She was about 5'4 and 105 lbs with natural C size cups. Face was only average to below average in looks for being a street freelancer. She was also too slim and firm for my liking, but I still managed to finish because of her BBBJ skills with CIM x 3. She had a distracting tattoo on her back but her ass made up for it. She is a 3 holer and even brought along her sex toy for double penetration. At times she told me she wished I had a friend for kinkier stuff. I'm guessing double dragon action is what she wanted, but her English is only so so, and wasn't sure what she was hinting. Anyways the next day, we exchanged WeChat in case I couldn't find her at her usual spot. So for 2,000. This wasn't bad. I'm sure you can find better looking talent on Soi 6 or LK Metro for cheaper and more value.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2128967]This is not true. I have bare backed personally sodomised go go girls I picked up on the Beach Road / Central Road intersection and buggered them from other locations too. The go go scene is not for all of them and tastes in beauty do vary. I have bonked the prettiest but most stressed out go go girls in Thailand. Sure go go girls are paid better but they are paid to make profits for their bosses. Wise go go girls jump ship and pound the malls before descending to Beach Road where a good buck can be made if they keep their shtt together.[/QUOTE]I was talking about Soi 6 and you bring up evidence from BR. And I wasn't saying that gogo girls don't give up the gogos (yes its stressful and more work there), buy that the prettier ones tend to stay in the gogos while the less attractive ones (who have trouble getting drinks and BFs) are the ones that usually move on to different venues.

In any case, at least in my experience, finding "gogo quality" girls (I. E. Girls that are attractive enough to work in a gogo) on BR is even more difficult than it is on Soi 6. In all my wanderings along BR I can count on one hand girls that I would go home with.

I've made a concerted effort walking Beach Road this week. 4 times from central festival to walking street between 7:30 and 10 pm. Some posters here believe there are top quality gogo girls on Beach road. Either we have totally different taste in girls or I need glasses because I certainly didn't see any. There was 1 who I would buy a drink for at a gogo bar or soi 6.

Am I walking along Beach road at the wrong time? If so what time should I be be walking and I'll check it out at that time.

ET, I agree not worth waiting if barfine only 800 baht but, unlike BKK, greedy gogo bars are charging 2000 barfines here. My favorite thing is when girls get barfined by a Korean or Japanese guy, Lines me before she leaves the bar to tell me she will be over to hang out in about an hour. No barfine, no 5000 baht bill. Just feed her and make her happy.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2129111]ET, I agree not worth waiting if barfine only 800 baht but, unlike BKK, greedy gogo bars are charging 2000 barfines here. My favorite thing is when girls get barfined by a Korean or Japanese guy, Lines me before she leaves the bar to tell me she will be over to hang out in about an hour. No barfine, no 5000 baht bill. Just feed her and make her happy.[/QUOTE]Ouch. Yeah, in the case of a mid-evening meet up, your scenario is a clear winner. Of course, there are go-go bars in Bangkok where the barfine for many (Coyote type) girls is 2,000-3,000 baht. But to be honest with you, unless the girl was gorgeous and as fully accommodating as one of my real GFs, I probably still wouldn't wait until after 3 AM to shag her on those terms in order to save the 2,000 baht and the cost of a couple of Lady Drinks. LOL. As an expat living here, that is.

Intro: OK- stoked for my triumphant return to Patts. My first time, I got a serious case of oneitis, and although the girl was great, I seriously limited myself. Not this time! We will be here for 3 nights.

Checked into The Stay a little past 10 and headed straight to Soi 6. Oh how I've missed you 10 baht buses. Walked down to Beach Road and back, a couple at Red Point stood out from the pack so in we went for drinks. My buddy and I bought the 2 drinks; the one with him was much more playful and outgoing, I would've taken her in a heartbeat. Mine seemed disinterested and did not speak much English so I moved on after the drink. Bought a drink for another cutie that seemed ok, but she was not ok with CIM or rimming, I said no thanks. At this point my buddies girl and the mamasan were playfully calling me a butterfly, and I chuckled (I am what I am! Ha!) Scanned the room and found one that had a tall slender body and passable face, bought her a drink, negotiated terms and off we went. Aside from the picture I have of us in the room, nothing else really comes to mind. I needed a release and she served the purpose.

As I never got to hit LK Metro my first time here I figured we could ease ourselves into the agogos and go here our first night since it was close to our hotel anyway. We had beers and watched the rotations at Ninja, Paradise, Touch, and a few others. I honestly did not see anything that truly excited me, but bought a drink for a girl with large natural hooters at some agogo around closing time. She said she would come to my hotel after she got off. Yeah right haha. Not the opening night I was hoping for, I will have to hit the ground running tomorrow!

Woke up and grabbed lunch at Hooters, man there were some serious stunners there! You guys think they are ex bar girls with sponsors now?

I did not get a chance to hit Kinnaree during my first visit here, so that was high on my list as well. We headed down via Baht Bus, got off at Phra Tamnak, and walked the rest of the way. Ok it was a little farther of a walk than I thought haha. Got in and was surprised how dark it was inside. We got a spot on the couch (best seat in the house IMO) and had some beers while our eyes adjusted. I made a classic rookie mistake and let the first girl who asked to sit sit down next to me. Nice body, ok face, was into me exciting my Johnson pretty quickly. Continued to survey the room and all that caught my eye was a girl with blonde hair in a tight red dress that was with a customer. Well back to my girl, started making out and gave the body a feel. Ok ass, minimal stomach fat (my pet. peeve) and the assurance that she will make me happy. OK we will see about that. Booked the room and 10 minutes later off we went. In the light her face showed some acne but outside of that my assessment was not far off. Showered together and then got busy. I cannot recall much about this encounter, but I do remember she put in a lot of effort, particularly in the blowjob and riding me. This however was all overshadowed by the fact that when I was finishing doggie I noticed she was super wet and then looked down to see a bloody condom. Goddamn, put it out of my mind so I could finish and then showered. Paid up, thanked her, and didn't wait up. Went back to my place on the couch and who is standing alone behind me but the girl in the red dress. Drink? Ok. Her name was Nan, and I got hard the moment she sat down. Did some light kissing, and she reached down to my crotch and seemed to be turned on that I was that erect for her. "room?" she asks. Yes go book it. My buddy told me he was going to get a threesome so I knew I had some time. As she got up and walked away, I saw the first girl I went with give me a sad puppy face. I bought her a drink as a peace offering and told her I'm a butterfly. She gave a smile and seemed to understand. Off to the bedroom with Nan, and she was the full package, showered up and onto the bed for a great blowjob. She asked if I wanted the rubber, and I said no I was enjoying this too much. 5 minutes more and I couldn't wait to enter! On the okamoto. 02 went and she went at it with some memorable reverse cowgirl. Loving the view and impressed by her sexual stamina, I enjoyed the show. Turned her around so I could suck on those titties and she rode away. Sensing she was starting to tire, I pushed her back for some missionary. Then had her get on her knees and pounded away doggie, Tugged her arm to get into position and erupted on her tits and her face as she stared me down. Loved it. Asked what she was doing later and she said she'the be at I-Bar. Got her Line and said I'd see her later. No man, do not do this to yourself, there are a plethora of options in Patts!

My buddy seemed happy with his 3 some and said that it was well worth it for the BJ portion, and to be able to pound one doggy while the other sucked on his balls. He said the cumshot was also amazing to. Hmm maybe I'll have to partake.

We moved on to Heaven around 5, and what a waste of time that was. There were 2 girls there and we walked out. Took a Motor taxi (so much quicker! Well worth the extra 2-3 bucks haha) back to the hotel and showered up. Headed north thinking I might partake in a soapy. Stopped into both Sabai Dee and Honey Body 2 and man were there some stunners in there. Keeping in mind the mechanical session (s) I had during my last visit, and the fact that you can't really establish any rapport with these girls beforehand, we opted to take off to Soi 6. We walked down just to before Red Point and turned around (not trying to get roped in by the girls from yesterday). My buddy said he wasn't ready for another round so would just follow my lead. I had my eye on one of the stewardesses dressed in blue, but then saw a nice spinner at the bar next door called Ruby Bar. Bought her a drink, and ended up liking her a lot. Got a room and pounded her out. Got her line and asked what she was doing later, she said long time 2000 because she likes me. I did make her cum, so maybe that's partly true haha. We took off for Walking Street.

The moment we got there around midnight, we were both thinking why the f did we waste our time at LK Metro? Went into Skyfall and each spotted some hotties. I liked my buddies girl I am sure you have all seen her. She looks like a pornstar and will give one hell of a lap dance, but will not leave with customers. I met a fellow from Canada my last night there that said he was taken for 5 drinks from her as well. Such a shame. Or maybe she is just super selective? Either way, one hell of a body! Still had Nan in my head so I sent her a message on Line but no reply, probably for the better. We took off and I had to stop in to see my favorite Mamasan at one of those beer bars in Simon. Yes part of me wanted to see the girl I fell for last time, but she was on holiday. Probably a blessing as I probably would've barfined her. Did some shots of tequila and said we be back later / tomorrow. On to Baccara for some beers, but nothing really stood out. My buddy said he was tired so I said ok, we can go hard tomorrow. Back to the hotel and I hit up my Soi 6 girl. She came by at 3 am and we proceeded to bang all night bareback. Oh why do you do this? So reckless, but damn did it feel good. Woke up just before checkout and got another session in. Gave her 3000 and headed for a cooking class at 1 (got to look busy so I have something to tell the girlfriend / fam back home that I did haha).

Checked out of the Stay and into Grand for our last planned night in Pattaya. I highly recommend this hotel for its proximity to Walking Street, it cannot be beat!

We checked in around 3:30 then took a motor taxi to Kinnaree. Nan came over and asked for a drink, but I called her out for not replying to my message on Line. She gave me some nonsense about how she didn't have wifi, ok. Well your loss. Had 2 drinks before we would call anyone over to make sure our eyes were 100% adjusted, then started making moves. My buddies girls from yesterday came by and talked with him for a little while. The first girl I had also came by and said Hello, and playfully joked if I was going to have 2 girls today, I said we will see what happens, maybe 3 haha. 2 stood out that happened to both be with customers: Lisa and Thai?. We decided to wait for them as they had amazing bodies. When the girls were finished with their customers they came over. We were both satisfied with our choices and had them book rooms. Man did Lisa have a great ass (pictured). When those clothes came off I could not believe the body! I knew this was going to be fun. As I was admiring her body, she playfully asked if I was going to fuc* her or just stare. So we got busy. The sight of that ass in doggie will forever be in my spank bank. Great session! I got her line and we went out to wait for my buddy. I asked what she was doing and she said probably working out at the gym. I said we should all grab some dinner, and she said ok but we just couldn't leave together so she'the pick me up on the corner down the street. My buddy came out and I told him the plan, and he ran it by his lady, but she said she had plans. Darn that would've been money. Oh well off to dinner we went. Lisa drove like a maniac and my adrenaline junkie self was loving it. IT was pretty hilarious- the taxi driver my buddy was with could not keep up and they ended up losing us half way haha.

After dinner we parted ways and walked to the hotel. Showered and headed out. My buddy was obsessed with that Skyfall girl so we went there first. The one entertaining me from yesterday was not there and nothing else really caught my eye so I told my buddy that I was going to go see what else was out there as he said he was going to barfine this one (again we did not realize she was a coyote). I headed for Whatsupp and locked eyes on one. Her name was Nam and what a beauty (2nd picture below). She said 3000 short time plus 1000 barfine and was standing pat with the blowjob with condom only. She said she would not be hurt if I chose someone else. I did a quick survey of the room and decided that she was Mel Kiper's best available. My buddy hit me up with the news that his goddess could not be barfined and met me at Whatsupp. I could tell he was jealous I had Nam haha. I told him to his some other agogos and I'the meet him when I was finished. Back to the room, I had instant rapport with Nam, she was a real sweetheart, and kept calling bullshit on all of my lines I was feeding her. The truth is that just looking at her made me hard, so I figured I wouldn't even need a blowjob. Clothes came off and what a body! I cannot even describe in words as at this point I was in a state of euphoria. Damn condoms taking away the feeling. Is it ridiculous that as I was nailing her doggie I was imagining barebacking my soi 6 girl later on? LOL. Standard procedure I got her Line ID and asked what she was doing later. She sounded like she had plans but said she could see me tomorrow. We walked outside and there was my buddy smoking a cigarette. I told her I loved her and she gave me another one of her cute "bullshit"s and we headed to some other agogos. Not much happening at Dollhouse and Windmill, we stopped back into Simon (I forget the bar but it is the first to last in the back right corner) to see my favorite mamasan. Bought her a tequila and told her I was leaving tomorrow so she in turn returned the tequila. 3 shots later, I could tell my buddy was still bummed by the Skyfall girl. I don't blame him, she was a true stunner, what a tease! He said nothing could compare and said he had a girl he met in Ruby Bar when I was upstairs is coming within the half hour. I decided to hit up my soi 6 girl for another fun night of banging. She said she would be there in an hour. OK I decided to stop back by Simon to see if anything caught my eye nope, but did rip a couple more shots of tequila with mamasan. She offered up a young thing that looked fresh, but I passed. I decided to close down whatsup and bought a drink for one of the other girls that caught my eye earlier. She is a pretty little thing with glasses, you can't miss her. She said I was too big though. Yeah right, I am below average in the US! Haha. Closed down the bar and as I was walking to Grand my soi 6 girl was pulling up on her motorbike taxi. Talk about impeccable timing! Thinking that was my last night with her, my body was ready for one of those sex marathons 7 fucks later and it was time to check out. Off to Bangkok we go. I got to say I feel I could've done better during my stay here.