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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2561757]Wow. Do they allow you to spend another 3 hours if you pay up 50 more? Or do you have to exit, stand in the line again and pay 50 to get back in?
Unless you want to meet up w / a specific girl that you like very much it appears to me that you are better off paying some hooker outside the club, if you need a release that badly.
How is the 3 hour period monitored and enforced?[/QUOTE]If the max number of people allowed inside is not reached yes you can stay 3 hours more for 50 euros.
There is another rule, they divided the club in two zones, a green one and a red one. If you want to see a girl in the other zone you have to ask the reception to let you change.
For the monitoring, there are only 15 guests allowed in each time slot so it must be rather easy for them to keep track of who's inside.
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2561412]Yes I agree Markel was Obsessive, but I hope with the fast vaccination rate and low cases and death in June, she will not be able to justify her decisions to close the economy, I hope everything will open is Summer including FKK.[/QUOTE]Merkel perfectly knows what is important for the German economy and people: brothels, FKK, Doner Kebab. Are not. First of all mostly are not controlled by German people, even the employees are not German, and contrary that what some are writing here, they can get corona support but they need also to declare their real revenues in the previous years, but all those business have a lot of cash payment and always try to escape the taxes.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562088]If the max number of people allowed inside is not reached yes you can stay 3 hours more for 50 euros.
There is another rule, they divided the club in two zones, a green one and a red one. If you want to see a girl in the other zone you have to ask the reception to let you change.
For the monitoring, there are only 15 guests allowed in each time slot so it must be rather easy for them to keep track of who's inside.[/QUOTE]Thank you, that is really helpful. However, even with just 15 guests, they have to keep an intrusive eye on their guests or even potentially badger them "hey, your 3 hours are up" which I imagine would be very irritating to most guys.
On the other hand, must be great for the girls. Johns will be looking to make the most of their 3 hours and will be in a rush to get their sessions in and not negotiate too hard.
Until conditions / service / prices /#girls revert to pre-Covid normal levels, it is totally futile for any fly in tourist. I will be a slow follower when it comes to this, I guess.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2562094]Merkel perfectly knows what is important for the German economy and people: brothels, FKK, Doner Kebab. Are not. First of all mostly are not controlled by German people, even the employees are not German, and contrary that what some are writing here, they can get corona support but they need also to declare their real revenues in the previous years, but all those business have a lot of cash payment and always try to escape the taxes.[/QUOTE]FKKs play a very important role in German society. They prevent thousands of German men from becoming rapists and perverts which in turn makes those men more productive and hence more profitable for the German economy.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2562485]FKKs play a very important role in German society. They prevent thousands of German men from becoming rapists and perverts which in turn makes those men more productive and hence more profitable for the German economy.[/QUOTE]A happy cow, is A productive cow.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2562088]There is another rule, they divided the club in two zones, a green one and a red one. If you want to see a girl in the other zone you have to ask the reception to let you change.
For the monitoring, there are only 15 guests allowed in each time slot so it must be rather easy for them to keep track of who's inside.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a lot of fun. / sarc.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2562094]Merkel perfectly knows what is important for the German economy and people: brothels, FKK, Doner Kebab. Are not. First of all mostly are not controlled by German people, even the employees are not German, and contrary that what some are writing here, they can get corona support but they need also to declare their real revenues in the previous years, but all those business have a lot of cash payment and always try to escape the taxes.[/QUOTE]Merkel has no clue, but her (and her party's even after she goes away) advantage is that the current bunch of German voters are even more clueless. Read this: [URL]https://www.dw.com/en/german-economy-hit-harder-than-expected-by-covid-crisis/a-57650920[/URL].
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[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-coronavirus-incidence-hits-lowest-091525328.html[/URL]
((The coronavirus infection rate in Germany has fallen below 50 per 100,000 people for the first time since October, data showed on Wednesday, and the health minister said the country can have a summer of peace from the virus if it keeps pushing it down.)).
((Health Minister Jens Spahn told NTV television: One goal is clear: as many vaccinations as possible, as few infections as possible, until the end of June, then it will be a really good summer)).
((After a slow start compared to Britain and the United States, Germany's vaccination rollout is picking up speed. About 40% of the population of around 83 million people have received at least one dose and about 14% are fully vaccinated.)).
So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.
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Anyone as antsy as I am and who are curious about Austria clubs instead as they appear to be opening soon? Have been to a club in Graz about 5 years ago. It was a decent time.
[QUOTE=Tuber19;2562775][URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/german-coronavirus-incidence-hits-lowest-091525328.html[/URL]
((The coronavirus infection rate in Germany has fallen below 50 per 100,000 people for the first time since October, data showed on Wednesday, and the health minister said the country can have a summer of peace from the virus if it keeps pushing it down.)).
((Health Minister Jens Spahn told NTV television: One goal is clear: as many vaccinations as possible, as few infections as possible, until the end of June, then it will be a really good summer)).
((After a slow start compared to Britain and the United States, Germany's vaccination rollout is picking up speed. About 40% of the population of around 83 million people have received at least one dose and about 14% are fully vaccinated.)).
So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=NoTaWorry;2562889]Anyone as antsy as I am and who are curious about Austria clubs instead as they appear to be opening soon? Have been to a club in Graz about 5 years ago. It was a decent time.[/QUOTE]You might find what you're looking for in the Austrian forums.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?621-Vienna&p=2562434&viewfull=1#post2562434[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2562775]So there is Hope this Summer for FKK.[/QUOTE]I want to be wrong in my prediction, but I predict Merkel won't let Germany open. Read this: [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/health-minister-urges-caution-berlin-095926068.html[/URL].
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2561696]I fully agree, but even IF Germans will vote differently, it will take many years to rebuild much of the nation and get Germany back to the economic foundation that FKK clubs are built upon.
Here (in German) are some videos from NDR German State TV highlighting the complete FUCK UP that Germany made of the Covid1984 situation. It's not just government bureaucracy, but also a total lack of customer service and local authorities that could not organize a binge drinking party in a brewery.
Local nonsense: [URL]https://youtu.be/L_z-YW5Io7g[/URL].
More local madness: [URL]https://youtu.be/ZOeGCVXAaHE[/URL].
Hamburger business owner going bankrupt, getting no financial assistance: [URL]https://youtu.be/V24C5mHPpuk[/URL].
Unable to get vaccinated + guy told on 17th Jan that he should have quarantined 3 weeks ago: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5tpI9BHEA0[/URL].
Unable to get an appointment for vaccination + chaotic Covid rules: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKxccdNYLNU[/URL].
Police detectives working from home (taking criminal investigation dossiers home! But not allowed to print out anything at home: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HRol45GUBI[/URL].
The list goes on and on and on. You really couldn't make this shit up, even if you tried. LOL!
And yet people think that Germany is the country of the Autobahn, high tech, and where everything is super-organised!
Expect this chaos to continue, and heaven forbid, if the Green Party wins in September, this will mean the end of Germany as we know it. They already are talking about "Klima-Lockdowns" in Germany: shutdowns for environmental reasons! This is NOT a joke, as the German Constitutional Court in Karlshuhe has ruled that:
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/29/historic-german-ruling-says-climate-goals-not-tough-enough[/URL]
It's a far swim across the Atlantic back to the USA for American FKK Lovers (fully vaccinated, no doubt, hahaha) who will suddenly find return flights cancelled and FKK clubs closed again because Germany locked down another time, this time to 'save the planet. ' The European radical left has tasted blood and lockdowns in combination with Covid-Ecological scaremongering are effective tools to implement their neo-Marxist world views through the backdoor.
[URL]https://www.die-gdi.de/en/the-current-column/article/from-covid-19-to-climate-action/[/URL][/QUOTE]The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2562949]The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.[/QUOTE]Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?
You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.
There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).
The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/europe/24amsterdam.html[/URL]
[URL]https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19/its-legal-to-sell-sex-in-amsterdam-but-dont-expect-the-same-rights-as-other-self-employed-workers-netherlands-legal-prostitution-sex-workers/[/URL]
[QUOTE]The famously permissive Dutch city is cracking down on prostitution, relocating sex workers, and discriminating against those employed in the industry.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/amsterdam-to-move-sex-workers-out-of-city-centre-in-tourism-reset[/URL]
In Amsterdam this is just the first step towards the Swedish model. The socialists got their votes from horny voters and 'progressives' in the past during the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's, but now the "me-too" and radical feminists are in control and dictate the agenda, and not just in the Green parties, but also in the CDU, SPD, FDP and VVD.
Look at all the Labour Party mayors of Amsterdam, and look at who is the current mayor of Amsterdam: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Amsterdam[/URL]#Early_20 th_century.
Why do you think YingYang has been closed in Roermond? Or LR in Kaarst? Hint: radical feminist female mayors!
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rianne_Donders-de_Leest[/URL]
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaarst[/URL]#Politics.
Here is another example: in the French speaking part of Belgium, the P.S. (Parti Socialiste) has been in power for decades, yet P6 is very limited and sparse: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_[/URL](Belgium)#Walloon_Parliament.
No big RLD or sex club with a good international reputation can be found in the Walloon region. Why is Belgium's biggest RLD located in the Dutch-Flemish speaking part of Belgium? Could it be because culturally speaking, the Flemish are much closer to the Dutch, and the Walloons much closer to the French? Why is GT in Brüggen full of French and Belgiums and even Luxemburgers?
Please save us your socialist propaganda, and stick to being the dumb uninformed American with his J&J jabs!
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[QUOTE=Clodius1;2562949]
The Greens also advocate for sex as a human right, and believe that persons on disability should have access to prostitutes at the State's expense. So the situation is a bit more nuanced than the doom and gloom Klima scenario.[/QUOTE]
Everyone needs to respect the human right. But nowadays people, politicians are using this word for personal or political gains.
Disabled people shall have the right to have sex with whoever agree to have sex with them. Disabled people like anyone else should have access to prostitute in the country where prositution is legal. But this has always been the case, is it not.
Suggesting the right to have sex with prostitutes using the taxpayer's money, is abusing the privilege of human right.
Politicians such as politicians from Green party are using this for political advantage to win more vote from particular society society. Where are they when the Femisist ambushed the FKKs filming the FKK visitors shaming the visitors by put the picture in the news. Where are they ? Keep in mind FKK is legal in Germany.
Everything is now a human right, nowadays. Does someone cease to exist if they are denied access to prostitute.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2563092]Show us examples of this. For example, how 'liberal' are the Greens and socialists in Sweden towards prostitution? Or the Fins? Or the Norwegians?
You make the typical American mistake to think that P6 is a political issue, while in reality it's probably more of a cultural thing. If anything, the left-green political parties are usually in favour of shutting everything down, or 'regulating' and taxing any business so heavily that they go bankrupt. See my example of Belgium below.
There might be some individual cases of 'socialists burning Other People's Money' (OPM) by subsidising a disabled person getting laid by a WG, but generally speaking P6 has been around in Europe for hundreds of years, long before the Green-Socialist agenda was invented by Marx & Co. (Hint: the Schipperskwartier in Antwerpen, or the famous RLD in Amsterdam, the Reeperbahn in Hamburg, etc).
The Greens and socialists have ruled Amsterdam for last few decades so YOU (with your limited life experience and world view) might think that they are responsible for P6, but reality is that they have been cracking down on P6 for years. Why would that be if they are so 'liberal' towards P6? Here are articles from 2008, 2019 and 2021.
[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/world/europe/24amsterdam.html[/URL]
[URL]https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/19/its-legal-to-sell-sex-in-amsterdam-but-dont-expect-the-same-rights-as-other-self-employed-workers-netherlands-legal-prostitution-sex-workers/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/amsterdam-to-move-sex-workers-out-of-city-centre-in-tourism-reset[/URL].[/QUOTE]Oh you don't know that Germany, Sweden, The Netherlands, Finland and Norway are different countries? I'm so sorry for you!
