Bangkok Reports

Thais are not raciest but very occupied by social standards. Have a few girls considering themself to be HISO girls. They are classy, beauties, work out a lot and have social security often with great paywell work. OMG they talk bad about girls we usually use for monger purposes. They name them lowclass people, prostitutes (even if I not tell them I make use of this segment of girls myself) and lazy crowd (not willing to work other than spreading legs and use some yabayaba).

But I am happy with my asian history as I do great wirh all in a nice mix from lower Beergarden standards to hi more Demo lookalikegirls.

[QUOTE=Marcos;1440913]Books can give some entertrainment and teaching. But I find that my own life gives me even more anyway.[/QUOTE]As they do for everyone, even the illiterate.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1440972]Many of my staff refer to Foreigners as "Farangs" but without being condescending or disrespectful. What would you prefer they say? That they call us by our Countries? (French, German, American?) well the fact of the matter is, they can't tell the difference.

I have lived outside of my country (for work) for 16 years and I can tell you what you said above can apply to all the countries I have been working in. It's not exclusive to Thailand.

Lasts.[/QUOTE]I hear you. 28 years outside my own country, most of them in Asia and I'm still a "foreigner". Personally I hate the term, a much better term would be Non Thai or Non Chinese etc.

Or maybe European, Caucasian. Anyway foreigner is marginally better I suppose than "alien" which according to some immigration forms is what we are.

I lived in HK for 10 years you would think the tailor touts on Nathan Road would tire of asking me every day if I wanted a nice suit. But no." I'm white so I must be a tourist.

Same all over Asia. I'm white so I must be a visitor.

I'm often asked by Filipinas "why are you working outside your own country. Your not Chinese so why you working in China. I politely explain that just as there are 10, 000, 000 Filipinos working outside there own country, I'm doing the same. Blank looks abound.

[QUOTE=Rye007; 1437613]What does paying the fee have to do with anything. I have in the past.

I've gone over several pages but have not found good detailed posting as there used to be in the past.[/QUOTE]Paying a fee is about recognizing that there is no such thing as a free lunch, unless one wants to steal it. I take you at your word that you have paid the fee in the past. In which case, with three posts in your history, you've been a lurker par excellence!

The ISG fora are a found of info and somebody's gone to great lengths to make it work and make it available to all of us. If you can afford to monger, all else being equal, you ought to be able to pay for the use of the forum.

As far as detailed info is concerned, the acronym RTFF. Read the frigging forum. Is often used here, and for good reason. IMHO, the Thailand / Singapore / Macau fora have some of the most detailed info, so much so that one barely needs to ask / post any questions. Your inability to glean info is because you did not RTFF sufficiently, not because of the quality of info available.

And BTW, as an aside, popping in to the forum two days before a summer vacation, as some do, once a year is a recipe for failure.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1441152]I'm often asked by Filipinas "why are you working outside your own country. Your not Chinese so why you working in China. I politely explain that just as there are 10, 000, 000 Filipinos working outside there own country, I'm doing the same. Blank looks abound.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Desperate poor Filipinos overseas doing drudge work, you're doing the same. Blank look?

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1440972]I can assure you thais are not Racist, not in the slightest. They are Xenophobic, yes but they usually discriminate by color and social status, not race.[/quote]Discriminate by color = racism in its purest expression. Discriminate by social class = classism, that is a not much more acceptable variaton of the above,

[quote]Thais from the Upper Echelon despise the Tanned people from Villages and Farms whom they call "monkeys" and are pissed off these guys can even vote.[/QUOTE]So what are they in the end? Integration and same opportunities supporters, not for sure.

Note: per forum rules we cannot discuss any race-related issues. We are all borderline to an Admin warning.

I am a bit like our friend Skogis (not in the same clas though) that I like to meet girls at the bars rather than the gogos.

I have picked up Spasso (my old fav, but I think too expensive now) , CM2, Q Bar, Insomnia, Climax, Bossy etc etc.

A couple of weeks ago, I hit Levels. Great club and nice vibe about the place.

After a couple of rounds, walked up to 2 girls. One hottie in a tight purple dress (looked to be 172 cm atleast) , really fair and hot body and another girl in a black cock-tail. Chit-chat, got them a few drinks, got comfortable, dancing, etc and told the purple one 'let's go'. We just walked out and her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.

Went to the hotel. Great round one. She was willing and giving with equally goodround 2 in the morning. The sex was as good as I have had. Extremely adventurous. She is from the North (not Isaan) but she said that she was from some place near there in the mountains. Her father had a business with tractors etc and she was studying business on Sundays at Bangkok. Not as tall as she looked since she was wearing 3 inch heels.

I sent her off with 4000 since I had a meeting and arranged to meet her for lunch at Paragon. Took her for a nice lunch (covered by company) and some shopping. She came in a lemon green dress and was pretty well ogled by the guys there. Figure to die for.

Now, I plan to meet her again. Just wanted some advice. I am in BKK again soon and she keeps messaging to meet me.

- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).

Pros.

- Did not ask me for money although her friend asked me to pay for her.

- Has a simple phone (not a smart phone)

- Dressed decently.

- When we met at Starbucks, she was reading a book rather than chatting with BF's on a smart phone.

Cons.

- Came home with me on the first nite without too much hassle. I am 40, earning well, reasonable shape and looks, dress and smell good but no Tom Cruise.

- How can girl sustain herself in Bangkok without a job and with studies on Sunday?

What is your opinion on this girl? Obviously, I don't mind even if she is P4P since she is super hot and willing to please. But I would treat her a lot differently if she was not.

I am going to bang her again soon but a bit confused. I am an experienced monger but feeling a bit confused by this one.

McM.

P. S. Sorry but I don't take photos.

[QUOTE=McMaiden;1441275]I like to meet girls at the bars rather than the gogos.,.I have picked up Spasso (my old fav, but I think too expensive now) , CM2, Q Bar, Insomnia, Climax, Bossy etc etc.,.One hottie in a tight purple dress (looked to be 172 cm atleast).,.told the purple one 'let's go'. her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.[/QUOTE]I've been around these joints a lot, albeit several years ago, and I've had similar experiences. In fact, the old routine of the friend doing the ask is nothing new. It serves to do exactly what happened to you: make the whole situation ambiguous, so you don't know if you are in a P4P situation.

[QUOTE=McMaiden;1441275].,.I sent her off with 4000.[/QUOTE]You are obviously a generous man (watch out, you may get flamed by the cheap charlies on this forum. Just ignore them). This is important.

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1441275]Now, I plan to meet her again. Just wanted some advice. I am in BKK again soon and she keeps messaging to meet me.

- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).[/QUOTE]No question she is in the game, although I doubt she thinks she's in the game. Joints like Spasso, Bossy, Spicey, Climax, etc. Are not frequented by wholesome girls who are just out for some clean fun. They want the sex with the foreigners, and they want the money too. So it is a mixed bag. I've been in perhaps a dozen such situations, two of which elevated into something semi-serious before I broke them off. This definitely has the potential to spin into a clingy situation, if you are not careful. Although perhaps that's what you want. No judgment.

[QUOTE=McMaiden;1441275]I am going to bang her again soon but a bit confused. I am an experienced monger but feeling a bit confused by this one.[/QUOTE]I'm about your age too, and probably in the same kind of socioeconomic situation as you, and probably less good looking than you, so I can somewhat relate. My honest evaluation of this girl is that she is looking for a boyfriend who will support her. She's also looking for someone who will look good to her friends, and you presumably fit that bill, since she was with her friends when she took off with you. Put all that together, and you can expect to pay for her shopping, dinners, spending money, and a brand-spanking new smart phone (hey, she obviously needs one). In return, you will get excellent sex and the true privilege of getting skunk eye from every guy who ever sees you with that gorgeous beauty clung to your arm.

I think you can also expect to get some emotional pressure. This one sounds like she likes you, and it sounds like a little bit of courtship going on, which is a dangerous place to be for a monger. If you are 'confused by this one', it means she's getting under your skin, and that probably feels pretty good right about now. Perhaps you need to think about what this is getting you. Is that thrill purely sexual, or is it massaging your ego too? Is it giving you a sense that you are not 40 years old now, but more like in your early 30s? Is it giving you some escapism from a dull life? Whatever the case, my only serious advice is this:

[b]If you have family commitments back home that you are not willing to break, you need to stop and think about this. [/b]

Kids? Wife? GF? If they are not expendable, then this might not be what you want to do, because it could very well get ugly. And if you decide this won't be a long term relationship, you need to tell her now, before things get any deeper. It will only get harder to break it off with her as time goes by, so just stop and think about whether you are ready for this. I know you want to walk around the Paragon with her on your arm, and you want to go back to the hotel with this sexy little thing and share bubble baths with her and pretend she is your girlfriend, but the fantasy will end, and when it does, you will have to decide whether you want to keep her long term or ditch her then.

On the other hand, if that is not a concern, and you have the money to burn, then go for it. Such relationships can be thrilling and very satisfying, and definitely waaaaay better than your regular gogo girl ho-hum fare in BKK. I've been in four or five (two from nightclubs, the others from other situations in LOS) , and they have all ended with a tinge of pain, but with positive memories overall.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234; 1440982]Absolutely RIGHT ON THE MARK!

Over the past 40 years I've lived and worked in multiple Asian countries. It's the same everywhere. Ever been to Japan to work?[/QUOTE]Absolutely, no one can compare (negatively that is) to the Japs. Xenophobic, racist, bigots. Truly Hitler's eastern evil twins. Thais are angels by comparison.

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1441275]I am a bit like our friend Skogis (not in the same clas though) that I like to meet girls at the bars rather than the gogos.

I have picked up Spasso (my old fav, but I think too expensive now) , CM2, Q Bar, Insomnia, Climax, Bossy etc etc.

A couple of weeks ago, I hit Levels. Great club and nice vibe about the place.

After a couple of rounds, walked up to 2 girls. One hottie in a tight purple dress (looked to be 172 cm atleast) , really fair and hot body and another girl in a black cock-tail. Chit-chat, got them a few drinks, got comfortable, dancing, etc and told the purple one 'let's go'. We just walked out and her friend follows us and says 'you give her something'. I said, sure, will take care of her.

Went to the hotel. Great round one. She was willing and giving with equally goodround 2 in the morning. The sex was as good as I have had. Extremely adventurous. She is from the North (not Isaan) but she said that she was from some place near there in the mountains. Her father had a business with tractors etc and she was studying business on Sundays at Bangkok. Not as tall as she looked since she was wearing 3 inch heels.

I sent her off with 4000 since I had a meeting and arranged to meet her for lunch at Paragon. Took her for a nice lunch (covered by company) and some shopping. She came in a lemon green dress and was pretty well ogled by the guys there. Figure to die for.

Now, I plan to meet her again. Just wanted some advice. I am in BKK again soon and she keeps messaging to meet me.

- Do you think that she's in the game? She said that she goes clubbing sometimes to RCA, Bed Supper etc but her friends go to Bossy, Spicy etc etc (where good girls should not be going hahahah).

Pros.

- Did not ask me for money although her friend asked me to pay for her.

- Has a simple phone (not a smart phone)

- Dressed decently.

- When we met at Starbucks, she was reading a book rather than chatting with BF's on a smart phone.

Cons.

- Came home with me on the first nite without too much hassle. I am 40, earning well, reasonable shape and looks, dress and smell good but no Tom Cruise.

- How can girl sustain herself in Bangkok without a job and with studies on Sunday?

What is your opinion on this girl? Obviously, I don't mind even if she is P4P since she is super hot and willing to please. But I would treat her a lot differently if she was not.

I am going to bang her again soon but a bit confused. I am an experienced monger but feeling a bit confused by this one.

McM.

P. S. Sorry but I don't take photos.[/QUOTE]She is a working girl. Never forget that. Of course she has a job, renting her body. Take that at face value and have fun!