Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1441687]No intention to flaming but when a girl gets a high pay for doing nothing (generally 4k is alaready a good rate for a LT, go imagine for a ST) this can only lead to silly expectation or wrong vision of what P4P can be for her.

Add the shoppin opportunity on top and she feels like a queen.[/QUOTE]Well define doing nothing in these discussed cases? Well it is not for every girl or for girls frequent in all known mongerplaces to recieve this kind of compensation. But if girls operates in a certain way, at certain places and meet certain men I would (and I don't know this and I only speculate and also a few observation on my own) think 4K as a norm in her life is not so far out from reality. I know I can give 4K and more if I fell like (for certain quality girls and maby special service). But as Wolven say we also pay girls to leave without drama.

The 500bht Beachroad Pattaya girl and the debated more "upscale girls" they do the same work (and I don't talk about the luxury model girls they are much much more expensive). But there are miles apart when it comes to how they deliver their goods. Maby some (also my self) pay on the high side and maby also to much for different wrapping of the girls (but inside here it is hard to say what is a correct price as the market regulates it self). As I read inside here most ISG members runs after GoGo girls, MP girls or barfinable girls (nothing wrong about that just not my style) so the risk you meet a girl at Q-Bar is low am I right.

But I will underline that their performance is of great importance. We all have one standard we consider to be the expected one and from this we decide a price (I never give a girl any idea what she will get as there is absolutely no talk about price as I find that to be a turnoff. I like the game to look as normal as possible so chemistry and mutual liking / enjoyment is of great importance). If the performance blows all my expectations in a positive way, then ofcourse I will give some extra for the girl. The extra she would not know as she does not know anything about a price from the start but maby this also will secure the next punter climbing her a decent treatment.

Bangkok Eyes website recently posted many updated maps of red light areas around Bangkok. There are maps of Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, as well as some less famous areas, like Sukhumwit Soi 7/1 and Soi 22. They'd be very useful for any newbie wanting to get oriented on where the various go gos and such are. They're also useful to experienced mongers as a current snapshot of what businesses are still going.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo;1441770]Bangkok Eyes website recently posted many updated maps of red light areas around Bangkok. There are maps of Nana, Soi Cowboy, Patpong, as well as some less famous areas, like Sukhumwit Soi 7/1 and Soi 22. They'd be very useful for any newbie wanting to get oriented on where the various go gos and such are. They're also useful to experienced mongers as a current snapshot of what businesses are still going.[/QUOTE]The infamous Mick Licker created some awesome google map[s] a couple of years ago. If you search the ROD thread, back to 2010, you'll find that they're not as out-dated as one might think.

hi everyone,

here's my first diary of my thailand trip.

my plane landed today around noon after a loooong (too long) flight from france. but here i am, it's hot as an oven in here.

took a cab to my hotel (grand president hotel) soi 11, nice hotel, clean and big room, i took a shower and went doing some recon of the neighborhood. on my way to soi 8 (which is right in front soi 11, i couldn't resist and had had to take a look at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]'s, after a 12 hours trip, it couldn't hurt me (it didn't) around 10 girls (most of them were average but found a couple of 8/10, took one, her name was zoé, very nice, always smiling and very friendly, went up and. you know what's next. very good bbbj with cim, i hate when you pay for a bbbj but mostly get hj, fortunately, she did a very good bbbj all the way.

an important thing that i need to emphasize is that i had booked wan wan from mango massage by email at 7.30pm for a two hours outcall. everything was confirmed and as i went to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] around 3pm i had plenty of time to rest before the action with her. as i went back to my hotel (right after buying lube at the pharmacy in front of nana plaza) i only had the time to rest a little as someone ring at the door (it was 4. 30) it was wan wan. i was very surprised as i've said (3 times by email that i wanted her to come around 7. 30) anyway i couldn't refused her so i let her in.

it's been the best 3 hours of (mongering) sex of my (short) mongering life. i've never seen a girl (that you pay) that motivated, nice, kind and funny. we took a shower together and we broke the ice by talking about her, discos and random stuff. she's from hisan (not sure about the spelling) and was (to my taste) a 7/10 with a very nice body. she couldn't stop giggling as we were in the shower together. then went the nice part, almost 3 hours of deep kissing, gfe, dfk, vaginal sex, anal sex, bbbj and cim (passionated and not to sloppy). after two pops (+ the 1 at [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]) i was exhausted but she wanted more, she came twice as well and was very wet from the beginning to the end. i'm not saying that i did something right (even though i hope so) but she was just very into it. she wouldn't let go of me and wanted some more "boum boum". eventually i told her that i was tired but that i would be happy to see her again. she stayed for another 45 minutes into my room, giggling, talking about that we should go to disco together and so forth (while touching my jonas brother) saying that "it" was tired with a sad face. we exchanged telephone number and she left.

btw. i've looking over wan pictures on mango's website and although she look similar, i'm not 100% sure that it was her. she said her name was wan wan and that she was 27, if anyone had had her in the past, could you confirm?

i paid her 2500 + 200 tips (1000 for mango and 1500 for the girl). some of you may think that i paid too much but the price with mango wasn't negotiable and with the pleasure that she gave me, negotiating with her was out of question.

here's end my first (half) day in bangkok. so far it's been great. will go to pattaya tomorrow, if it looks good i'll stay there for 4 nights, otherwise i will come back to bangkok before.

thanks

[QUOTE=Kumbu; 1441292]I've been around these joints a lot, albeit several years ago, and I've had similar experiences. In fact, the old routine of the friend doing the ask is nothing new. It serves to do exactly what happened to you: make the whole situation ambiguous, so you don't know if you are in a P4P situation.

You are obviously a generous man (watch out, you may get flamed by the cheap charlies on this forum. Just ignore them). This is important.

No question she is in the game, although I doubt she thinks she's in the game. Joints like Spasso, Bossy, Spicey, Climax, etc. Are not frequented by wholesome girls who are just out for some clean fun. They want the sex with the foreigners, and they want the money too. So it is a mixed bag. I've been in perhaps a dozen such situations, two of which elevated into something semi-serious before I broke them off. This definitely has the potential to spin into a clingy situation, if you are not careful. Although perhaps that's what you want. No judgment.

I'm about your age too, and probably in the same kind of socioeconomic situation as you, and probably less good looking than you, so I can somewhat relate. My honest evaluation of this girl is that she is looking for a boyfriend who will support her. She's also looking for someone who will look good to her friends, and you presumably fit that bill, since she was with her friends when she took off with you. Put all that together, and you can expect to pay for her shopping, dinners, spending money, and a brand-spanking new smart phone (hey, she obviously needs one). In return, you will get excellent sex and the true privilege of getting skunk eye from every guy who ever sees you with that gorgeous beauty clung to your arm.

I think you can also expect to get some emotional pressure. This one sounds like she likes you, and it sounds like a little bit of courtship going on, which is a dangerous place to be for a monger. If you are 'confused by this one', it means she's getting under your skin, and that probably feels pretty good right about now. Perhaps you need to think about what this is getting you. Is that thrill purely sexual, or is it massaging your ego too? Is it giving you a sense that you are not 40 years old now, but more like in your early 30s? Is it giving you some escapism from a dull life? Whatever the case, my only serious advice is this:

[b]If you have family commitments back home that you are not willing to break, you need to stop and think about this. [/b]

Kids? Wife? GF? If they are not expendable, then this might not be what you want to do, because it could very well get ugly. And if you decide this won't be a long term relationship, you need to tell her now, before things get any deeper. It will only get harder to break it off with her as time goes by, so just stop and think about whether you are ready for this. I know you want to walk around the Paragon with her on your arm, and you want to go back to the hotel with this sexy little thing and share bubble baths with her and pretend she is your girlfriend, but the fantasy will end, and when it does, you will have to decide whether you want to keep her long term or ditch her then.

On the other hand, if that is not a concern, and you have the money to burn, then go for it. Such relationships can be thrilling and very satisfying, and definitely waaaaay better than your regular gogo girl ho-hum fare in BKK. I've been in four or five (two from nightclubs, the others from other situations in LOS) , and they have all ended with a tinge of pain, but with positive memories overall.[/QUOTE]Hi Kumbu,

Thanks for your words of wisdom. You seem to have gone through exactly what I feel and appreciate your feed-back. Really appreciate it!

In fact, you encapsulated all that I felt in your post. I do have a family and I intend to stay with them but I really am going to meet this chick next time and tell her about the situation. If she still wants to meet me, it should be ok for all. I will pay her when I meet her (no transfers) and that's it.

You last 2 paras are words of wisdom as another poster said and I will do well to follow it.

Regarding payment, it was for long time. I have paid as low as 2000 in Climax and Insomnia but when a girl goes out of her way to please, I would rather overpay than underpay. Too bad, but that's the way I am and USD50 is never going to break my bank. Apologies to those who disagree but I am not going to change.

Cheers,

McM

[QUOTE=Harold444; 1441281]Best way to find out is don't give her anything!

Hahahahaha!

I thought I was a bad mongerer-I did the unthinkable and fell for a bargirl.

If you are as experienced as you say you are- You know what she is about. Folks I think this guy is pulling a fast one. So many gullible people here! Naughty man![/QUOTE]Dude,

You fell for a bargirl which I have never done. I can take this girl out anywhere in Bangkok and people would be looking at me for taking a hot girl (an the I feel good). I can converse well with her in English. The girls I have met in R1-4 and Baccara cannot do that.

No offense man, I enjoy your humor sometimes but I don't care a flying f whether you think I am pulling a fast one or not. Cheers and peace out. Keep going. I take no offense.

McM

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1441650]I know relatively many girls like this. We can call them whatever we like but this chick was probably relatively newly introduced to this "game" from her friends and gets tempted for some quick cash. We can not underline enough it is relatively easy money for a girl and almost stupid to say no (most likely her friends tell her it is a nice way to earn some bucks).

Most likely she go with some men from time to time (guys she in a way like and not only "his" money. Even ofcourse money will be a great motivation). This chick is not a hardcore prostitute. Many girls going to Spasso, Q-Bar, Levels and places like that go to have fun and if they see a guy they "like" they go. They work out of their free mind. Other girls I know they will almost not even BTS themself pass Lower Sukhumvit area as they find it to be all in prostitutearea (and from their own work and rep if they were seen around here people would start asking question). So it is a strange life and another thing, atleast if we think the girls have some sort of feelings for a guy. This trip (I am back home again. Crying) I met a few girls beeing so horny so if it was acting (even squirters) well atleast they act extremely good. And when a girl don't want to leave but wants to fuck more and more, well, I think we all can agree she atleast enjoy her "work" to a certain point.[/QUOTE]Skogis,

Thanks. My experience is not as varied as yours but I agree that anytime a girl works hard to please me, I think that she's enjoying a bit of it too. This one turned every DATY to a 69. If she enjoyed it, good for her. I sure did have a great time and will reward her for it.

BTW, I met a girl in Spasso, 'dated' her 4 times without getting past second base and so moved on. Maybe she did not like me ENOUGH to go all the way. We all live and learn.

Cheers,

McM

i have been here for 7 days now and i have 2 more night to go.

the first thibg i did was to try mango and poy i think her name was i saw some good shit about here on isg and she was cute and took it in the ass like a champ i could do her ass in many ways!

recomend her!

she was a little crazy and jumped up on my back 30 seconds after her arrival and started barking like a dog hehe but god fuck!

my hotel is very close to soi cowboy so i have done take away there 5 times thees night and i am satisfied with them all!

for the go-go bars i really recomend shark, baccara and suzi wong.

the girls here are much better looking then i was hoping for and lets say there are about 30 girls working in each club then i think about 7-10 of those are very fuckable and 2-4 are really good looking.

now i like young looking girls in there early twenties so that is what i am talking about when i talk about these 2-4 girls in each club and they have fantastic bodies and really cute / sexy faces.

now i am a european guy in my early 30s and i know o look rather good so in the clubs there are 80% japanese guys.

as you all know the girls like japanese guys but my looks did that i could get any girl i wanted in the clubs so they liked me and the japanese and the rest of the guys did not get much attention.

did not get to fuck any of the bargirls in the ass.

shorttime i paid 2000-3000 and 1 longtime for 4000bth but then she stayed from 23 in the evening to 2 the next day and we had sex 3 times.

i have also tried [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] or was it lollipot i am not sure but i got a quick bj for 800bth in a room upstairs on a small sofa behind a curtan.

it was ok for 800bth but no more.

i have visited dr bj 2 times and the first time was whit "w" and she did a nice job trying to make me come it took like 25 minutes but she was good and very cute!

the second time was now tonight and it was with "e" and she fucking deeptroathed 18 of my 20 centimeters cock while she looked at me with her fake glases but she made me cum in maybe 6-8 minutes!

good deeptroath!

i tried to find rajah hotel because i was feeling for a russian girl tonight but did nt find the hotel.

anyone been there?

is it good looking girls or crap?

the russian elena or whats her name is has been siting in the café every day and shuting at me "hello! hello! you want me! i am new girl here!" but i think she looks like a crappy crackho with bad skin so no way i am sticking my dick in her.

over all i love bkk and this is not the last time i am going here!

tomorrow is my last night here don't know what to do yet but if i don't find rajah i guess it will be a last night whit a sexy gitl from soi cowboy i there are many girls there i like do have in my bed. .

cheers to all of you and god bless bkk!

I have a question about coyotes, I really don't know the difference between gogo's and coyotes. I have contact with a girl from Suzie Wongs and yesterday she said something about a coyote at Suzies who were fighting with her. I was surprised because I didn't know there was coyotes in gogo bars. Please enlighten me about the difference between a dancer and a coyote at a place like SW.

I will be in BKK this weekend and this my first time there. I know July is raining season but is it raining very heavy or moderate?

Thanks

[QUOTE=SunyAsia; 1441975]I will be in BKK this weekend and this my first time there. I know July is raining season but is it raining very heavy or moderate?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Yes yes yes

[QUOTE=Dextro Sol;1441927]I have a question about coyotes, I really don't know the difference between gogo's and coyotes. I have contact with a girl from Suzie Wongs and yesterday she said something about a coyote at Suzies who were fighting with her. I was surprised because I didn't know there was coyotes in gogo bars. Please enlighten me about the difference between a dancer and a coyote at a place like SW.[/QUOTE]Coyote girls are not for bar fining. Usually stunning girls, attracting customers to the bar, dancing. They might be available for take out at bar closure but usually very expensive.

[QUOTE=Puttex; 1441903]I have been here for 7 days now and I have 2 more night to go.

I tried to find Rajah hotel because I was feeling for a Russian girl tonight but did nt find the hotel. Anyone been there?

The Russian Elena or whats her name is has been siting in the café every day and shuting at me "hello! Hello! You want me! I am new girl here!" but I think she looks like a crappy crackho with bad skin so no way I am sticking my dick in her.

Cheers to all of you and god bless BKK![/QUOTE]Very good report as it gives newbies a quick round of the place.

Rajah hotel: go to soi and walk past NEP on the right side walk aside the nana car park. Go past a few bars for 100 metres till you see a 7/11 on your right. Turn right into the car park entrance and walk past a couple of bars.

You will soon see the rajah hotel building in your left.

It is the only (huge) building on the left. The lobby entrance has a roof crossing the whole alley to theright building (Annie's doo doo bar). Enter the lobby, look like you are looking for something and surely some pimp will tell you which floor the girls are.

Sometime the girls are out for a smoke, sometime they pop in 7/11 for a quick shopping.

Nice to read that Elena describes herself as fresh from the farm....