Manila

I was there in late March.

I met a girl online named Mari from Manila before I left the states. I thought she was too young (23), she was looking for a husband, I told her no thanks. I was also looking at retirement condos, so I thought I could combine that with whatever I found in the nightlife there. She comes back into play later.

One night I spent at the Citadel hotel, its an OK place for 40 clams, nice queen-sized bed, AC, clean, etc. I checked in at about 2pm, slept a bit from the flight, went outside about 8pm to find dinner. Slowest elevator ever. The throng of street girls surprised me, it is a business area by day, hooker central at night. Made my ways 2 doors down for a nice meal, then next door to the well-lit bar for a cold one. I walked into a strip club, maybe 20 girls dancing in skimpy outfits, another 60 girls sitting around. I was the only man there, and I got mauled. Every girl wants to sit with you. I sat with about 8 girls at the first table. All pretty, one massaged me, the rest actually made good conversation. Did not know I was on Burgos St. Being the only customer in the joint is good, and a pain, so I downed my drink and left. I went across the street to another bar, same thing, but 4 times bigger. About 4 or 5 men, tons of girls, all under 25. Amazing. The fichas are only $3.50 at both bars. I stepped a few doors down, same thing, smaller country-okified kind of bar, 2 men, 20 or so girls.

The bar fine at the first bar was 3500 pesos (about $70 US), no tip for the girl. I didn't like that setup, you are paying for everything to the mamasan up front. If you don't like the service, or the girl leaves without performing, who do you complain to? The barfine at the second bar was 3000 pesos and the girl gets whatever you negotiate, about 2500 pesos. At least she has to perform before she gets paid. At the third bar, the mama said I could barfine for only 1000 pesos, and dicker with the girl, if I liked the girl then I should come back and pay a bigger barfine the next time. WTF was she serious? All the girls in the bars are very pretty I thought.

I left the bars and went for a massage (300 pesos anywhere, $6 US), then came back and worked the street girls. Some of the girls are so shy they wont quote you a price, they asked me to offer something. One girl I offered 300 pesos ($6) to see what she would say, and she said OK but only short time, 500 pesos for all night. I was stunned, she only wanted $10 for TLN. I ended up not taking her up. I ended up asking another girl if she could work for 600 pesos ($12) all night and she said yes. I asked if she could work with another girl, and she said she had a friend if I approved of the friend. The friend was across the street, pretty, and we agreed on 600 for the first girl and the second girl would not go below 1000 pesos, so 1600 pesos ($32) for the night. Yes, thats the ticket, a couple of hotties all night for 32 clams. Too good to be true? Stunningly amazing. Stunningly lucky. Both were lookers, a 7 the first girl and the second one was an 8.

You have to be careful with the street urchins. Ladyboys and such. The hotel security was pretty good at spotting. As I was leaving earlier in the evening, they pulled one hotel guest aside and told him that he'd brought a ladyboy to the hotel, was he aware of that? The girl he had with him looked fine, but she was not the real deal. The security was pretty good in other ways. When I brought my guests to the lobby, they have the girls sign in, then they take the girl's drivers license or ID card. When the girl wants to leave the hotel, security calls your room to OK it; you check your wallet and effects to see if she's taken anything first.

Anyway the girls were great in the room, massage, sex, talk. The only thing I didn't like was that they wanted to watch the TV, and loud, the soaps and the karaoke channel, after the sex. I was drained and tired by midnight, I had to take the remote out of Annielyn's hand and turn the damn thing off. Next morning I took the girls to breakfast next door about 8, went back to the room for some more quick fun, and turned them loose by 9:30. Thanks ladies. They liked to talk about anything, life in the States, was I looking for a wife (they have friends), etc, good conversationalists. Another night I had a bar girl. Also the security guard at the door the said the next day that one of the girls he saw me talking to on the street was a ladyboy. You just never know I guess.

I also spent nights at the Linden Suites and The Astoria Plaza Suites. When I was at the Linden Suites, I went to non-strip bars in the area, a girl named Loryn wanted to "be my guide" in Manila. She never asked for money, she stayed with me overnight and was by my side everywhere I went (including looking at condos), I bought everything for her for almost two days, meals, movie (Norbit), shoes at the mall ($9), etc. Strange movies in the Megamall, you go in during the middle of the movie whenever you get to the theater, and stay after it ends and then watch the start of the movie again until you've seen it all. Unlike here in the states you go at the start of the movie and watch it all at once. I lied to her and told her I was headed back to the states, I got in a taxi and headed to the Astoria Plaza where I had a two-night reservation. We exchanged email adds. The night at the hotel with her wasn't that great, that old catholic thing took over and at the point of impact she just.... couldn't do it. Thats OK, i snuggled up to a skinny girl 12 years younger anyway. We exchanged email addresses and she's already written.

Here's where I learned my lesson. I went online and chatted with Mari (the youngster). She was thrilled I was in Manila and wanted to come right over to the Astoria. I stupidly said OK, and she did. She's cute, short, great figure. We went to Robinson's Mall and I bought her a purse ($16). We go out to dinner, go to the hotel, she watches soaps until they go off (oh those damned soaps, Asian Treasure philipinas love that crap), and we get down to sex. The next morning we go to breakfast, more shopping, and she wants to go see.... Norbit. So I see Norbit. Again. She says she needs to run home and grab some clothes, so I stick her in a cab and give the cabbie money to get her there and back (600 pesos). She's gone 90 minutes and returns.... with.... her family. Yep, mom, aunt, and sister. The front desk called, I had to go to the lobby to fetch them. OH MY FUCKING GOD. They wanted to see my suite. They asked if I was married. They wanted to know about my job. Do I have a retirement with my job? Then they wanted to go to dinner, so I took them. They wanted to eat at some place in the mall called Burgeroo so we went. I paid (about $26), they ordered mucho extra so they could take it home. Then I paid for the cab to take them home; they seemed happy and left their daughter/niece/sister with me for the night. Was never so happy to see the 747 the next morning.

Great trip. And strange, different culture, my first time. Thats enough for one TR. Sorry if it was long.

Yes I've learned my lesson, stick with the pros!

In all of this I did actually find a condo I liked (by the old Fort McKinley).

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Rgbburn,

It was one of the most fascinating reads, right on! Why do you recommend to stick to putas after having what seems like a good time and an adventure with a civilian girl? And also, you obviously spent some time hobbying in Latin America (Tijuana?), is there a Latin country that's better than the PI for girls?

Rgbburn,

LOL! You did ok. Didn't see the family thing coming huh? Yes, be careful with the ladyboys in Makati. Just look at the hands and adams apple. Plus, they are usually without hips. They are worse in the Malate area. Very agressive there. Good report.

Rgbburn...I agree its best to stick with the pros. I once accompanied a girl back to her "house" so she could change and grab a bikini for the pool. Well, her "house" was halfway in the jungle in the middle of a squatters camp. She lived with her parents and once they saw the white monkey arrive the entire f*cking village came out in force. Soon I was handing money out to the family to go buy chickens to BBQ and to other squatters to go buy beers and rum. It was like the entire village showed up for a handout and to push their little "prize" on me for the entire evening; or maybe for a lifetime. After way too much rum, I conceded to stay in her parents shack which was no more than a hut built over a dugout hogpen and her parents gave us the only private room (it had half a door) and they slept outside while I laid down with their daughter whom I'd only met 5 hours before. The next day after being awoken by the hogs below, I took a community bath in the river with a new bar of soap purchased from my rum money the night before. I made the best of it and survived with a smile but never again will I go with a girl to her house or agree to meet their family. Calling it surreal doesn't even do the experience justice.

I usually like those experiences. You complain about there's nothing to do in AC (other than the obvious) and then you complain about this great adventure with the locals.

What exactly do you like to do on your trips?

X Man

[QUOTE=Soju Lizard]Rgbburn...I agree its best to stick with the pros. I once accompanied a girl back to her "house" so she could change and grab a bikini for the pool. Well, her "house" was halfway in the jungle in the middle of a squatters camp. She lived with her parents and once they saw the white monkey arrive the entire f*cking village came out in force. Soon I was handing money out to the family to go buy chickens to BBQ and to other squatters to go buy beers and rum. It was like the entire village showed up for a handout and to push their little "prize" on me for the entire evening; or maybe for a lifetime. After way too much rum, I conceded to stay in her parents shack which was no more than a hut built over a dugout hogpen and her parents gave us the only private room (it had half a door) and they slept outside while I laid down with their daughter whom I'd only met 5 hours before. The next day after being awoken by the hogs below, I took a community bath in the river with a new bar of soap purchased from my rum money the night before. I made the best of it and survived with a smile but never again will I go with a girl to her house or agree to meet their family. Calling it surreal doesn't even do the experience justice.[/QUOTE]

Traffic: I prefer putas. I had another exprerience similar to Lizard's on the same trip that I did not post about. I went to another girl's house, she had a good job and owned the house and was quite proud of it. About 350-400 sq ft (tiny!), cement floors (again she was proud, no dirt floor for this gal), her bed was a piece of foam, about 1" thick and 3' X 5', leaned up against the wall. She was in one room, her sister and two kids were in the living room with NO COUCH OR BED, they slept on a blanket on concrete. This was not the twigs, the city has tens of thousands of residents, unlike Lizard's. Her place was one of the nicer places I saw, and it was still crap. I insisted we stay at my hotel.

I was the only white person in the town, and her family constantly asked for pesos (her sister cooked me a chicken leg and cut a mango for lunch and wanted 200 pesos), and at restraunts ordered two meals for each person (so they could all take one home, even the babies), for which I paid. They also took me grocery shopping and bought more food than they could take home, the grocer stored the rest in boxes for another return trip(s). Guess who paid? It was like an ATM machine had come to roost at their home.

And yes Traffic I've mongered in TJ many times. Am headed down Monday.

AP1: I really did not see the family thing coming at the hotel. When the front desk called and said, "Sir, you need to come down here..." it still didn't dawn on me in the elevator on the way down to the lobby that her family was there. Once I saw them, I had a flashback to the girl's family mentioned above. I should have sent them packing right then, but didn't, and it turned out $60-80 at the mall wasn't so bad to maul their hottie daughter/niece/sister. Two nights in a row.

Lizard: I'm with you. Never again will I go to the girl's place. If she was from the twigs (or even Cebu city), I'd fly her to Manila to spend time at my hotel. If she brought her family, only meet in public, have a meal, wish them well. If the girl goes back home with her family instead of with you, then start mongering MONGER.

X-Man: Was this (below) for me or for Lizard? I've never been to AC. Also, X, its easy to complain about this stuff, but in retrospect it really was an adventure.

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"You complain about there's nothing to do in AC (other than the obvious) and then you complain about this great adventure with the locals.

What exactly do you like to do on your trips?

X Man"
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Info on ladyboys and their hands and adams apples:

I just returned from Bangkok and got good advice from a local taxi driver. He told me you can't rely on the hands, they can be small or the adams apple, some have them surgically removed or pulled back. The best signs are the shoulders, after he explained, we went cruising and he tested me, i got about 3-4 out of 5 right, and the more real ladies and ladysboys you compare when they stand or walk along the street the better you get on telling them apart. Just look how wide the shoulders are of a ladyboy vs. a real girl. It will not take too long and you will be able to see the difference. Forget about the hands or adams apple or high or lower voices. Take a look at their shoulders.

Jager


[QUOTE=Ap1st]Rgbburn,

LOL! You did ok. Didn't see the family thing coming huh? Yes, be careful with the ladyboys in Makati. Just look at the hands and adams apple. Plus, they are usually without hips. They are worse in the Malate area. Very agressive there. Good report.[/QUOTE]

Culture shock or is it lifestyle problem?
I also went to see my gf village few months ago. I was very reluctant but after many times flying her to be with me in Manila I gave in to her request to go visit her family. Initially I agreed to stay at her house before flying to Tacloban. Her whole family came to meet us at the Airport in a rented van.
They were all hungry and ofcourse I had to feed them. So we stopped at a restaurent within 10 minutes of meeting them. Obviously they were waiting for us to feed them. It is not the cost factor and ofcourse they all ordered more than they can eat and took rest of the food home. Right then and there I decided to stay in a nearby hotel instead of her house. I told the girl I am used to modern conveniences and cannot stay at her house.
Next day she wanted me to go to her house and stay the whole day. I told her I will stay only for couple of hours. Her house was better than I imagined. She had her own bedroom and aircon. But there was no running water and I did not even look at the Toilet. Her father asked me why I wanted to spend money on the hotel and I could have stayed at their house. I said something like I like the comforts of the hotel. Ofcourse they served me dinner which was paid for by me.
I wanted to move away as soon as possible but I had to wait a couple of days till My gf gets off school.
After that we spent pleasurable few days at Ormoc without the hassle of putting up with her family.
In summary my observations are,
1. We are all used to some kind of lifestyle and visiting the girl's family is generally not a good idea.
2. Most of the families are poor and lack modern conveniences.
3. Since you are a foreigner you are expected to pay for everything even dinner and drinks for the whole extended family.
4. There is nothing to really see in the provinces except good scenery.
5. All rich philippino girls will not date a foreigner who goes there once in a while.

[QUOTE=Sammon]Culture shock or is it lifestyle problem?
In summary my observations are,
1. We are all used to some kind of lifestyle and visiting the girl's family is generally not a good idea.
2. Most of the families are poor and lack modern conveniences.
3. Since you are a foreigner you are expected to pay for everything even dinner and drinks for the whole extended family.
4. There is nothing to really see in the provinces except good scenery.
5. All rich philippino girls will not date a foreigner who goes there once in a while.[/QUOTE]Sammon,

You are right on the money. It is culture shock. In the provinces outside the city there is little other than water buffalo, pigs, chickens, and rice. I did not see running water or air con. Lesson learned. The really good part about the smaller town I visited was a SG offered herself all night for 200 pesos; she was a looker 20/21 year-old.

Looking back on it, I did have a fun time that night. At least I got a "National Geographic" story out of the whole thing.

To answer your question though...I do love mongering and I love AC but when I go there I seem to get caught up in JUST mongering and drinking as there is little else to do there. Again...not saying thats a bad thing but it always takes me a week to recover. Once I wake up, shower and have a lunch its off to Perimeter to start again. lol. An evil yet enjoyable cycle. Granted, it's poor self-control on my part.

BTW...I wasn't complaining...just stating the obvious. Cheers.

[QUOTE=X Man]I usually like those experiences. You complain about there's nothing to do in AC (other than the obvious) and then you complain about this great adventure with the locals.

What exactly do you like to do on your trips?

X Man[/QUOTE]

Maybe you should stick to the big cities and hang with the rest of the touristas!

[QUOTE=Sammon]Culture shock or is it lifestyle problem?

In summary my observations are,
1. We are all used to some kind of lifestyle and visiting the girl's family is generally not a good idea.[b]Yes maybe if your just going to do the 3 FFF's but if your going to keep her on, thats a slap in the face because the family is very important in Filipino culture.[/b]

2. Most of the families are poor and lack modern conveniences.[b] Well this is the third world.......Hello![/b]

3. Since you are a foreigner you are expected to pay for everything even dinner and drinks for the whole extended family.[b]Thats not the case. One time my gf family slaughtered a goat and had a 10 course feast in my honor. Later, we displaced the parents who gave us the master bedroom! On another trip, another girlfriends family went and fetched bar-b-que and we all got drunk on Red Horse and GSM Blue, didn't pay one peso.[/b]

4. There is nothing to really see in the provinces except good scenery.[b]You have to open your eyes and spend some time to find the hidden gems.[/b]

5. All rich philippino girls will not date a foreigner who goes there once in a while.[b]On my last trip, my chatmate picked me up from the airport in her car, bought me dinner and payed for all the drinks at the karaoke. I will no doubt see her again if I so choose.[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jager]Info on ladyboys and their hands and adams apples:
.. Forget about the hands or adams apple or high or lower voices. Take a look at their shoulders. [/QUOTE]Dont forget looking at foot size. Big feet in too small shoes, tells me what I need to know.

[QUOTE=Sammon]
5. All rich philippino girls will not date a foreigner who goes there once in a while.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure I understand this one. Rich filipinas will not date a farang that visits villages? Why?

[QUOTE=Rgbburn] The really good part about the smaller town I visited was a SG offered herself all night for 200 pesos; she was a looker 20/21 year-old.[/QUOTE]200 pesos for an all nighter with a looker?

Has anyone else experienced this?

Is this pretty typical?

[QUOTE=Traffic777]200 pesos for an allnighter with a looker?? Has anyone else experienced this, is this pretty typical?[/QUOTE]Traffic, I was in a provincial town, I got separated from a friend, and I left at 1AM from a bar and decided to walk the 100 yards to my hotel. The street was deserted, no taxis or trikes. It was very quiet. She stepped out from a shadow and scared the crap out of me because it was late and I thought I was about to be robbed. When she offered herself I walked on past (the near-heart attack didn't make me horny), and she started dropping her price. Desperation. Possibly a druggie, about 18-20, very pretty. Given the time of day and that she was out alone hanging in the shadows, not to mention the price, suggested desperation.