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[QUOTE=Aakumu]Hi bro MS,
Thanks for the informations, how much stock of food should we be stocking up?
How bad is this tide?
My humble two cents.[/QUOTE]
If you're living full-time in Jakarta, it never hurts to have 3 or 4 days worth of food on hand at all times - tuna fish, instant noodles, bottled water, beer, canned soup, etc.
The tide will close off most of the northern part of town, including the important trade area of Glodok (old Chinatown), and will affect much of the rest of Jakarta as access to the port will be difficult.
Last year over 70 per cent of Jakarta was flooded for almost a week. I live in Mega Kuningan, one of the neighborhoods that was not flooded, but the nearby Carrefour supermarket started to run out of food after a few days, because the delivery trucks couldn't reach the supermarket.
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Although the flooding is expected to be severe up north I don't think the rest of Jakarta should suffer too many problems as unlike last time it will be largely tidal in origin rather than due to heavy rains. Of course if the high tide coincides with a heavy rain storm then all bets are off.
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Dboy your choice of hotel is fine (I can see your bedroom from my office window as I type) but you are certainly not in a particularly 'hot' area. Jaksa is ok for the back packers but not really a mongering destination, though you could do worse than hanging around the McDonald's in Sarinah Mall after dark.
You were unwise to skip the Blok at 10pm, you'd have found plenty of interest even on a Sunday evening.
My advice would be to get down to the Blok now, find the Melawei Hotel (just around the corner from Pasaraya Mall) and get a room there for 330K a night, then when you're bored during the afternoon you can visit the Marabaya Bar in the 6th Floor, the rest is up to you. Other cheap hotels in that area are the Melawei II (the yellow building across the street from the Melawei) and the Losari and Amaris near the Blok M Plaza Mall.
I fully sympathise with your disorientation in Jakarta, it happens to us all on our first visit, I know I hated the place and couldn't wait to leave when I first arrived but stick with it, you'll discover you've found a real gem of a city here.
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Jakarta Trip Mid June
I've read all the report I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.
I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Cookie70]I've read all the reports I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.
I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
One of the more distinguished Senior Members of this board is a Chinese Malaysian. He's a regular contributor to the Indonesia threads, who's written numerous posts of his successes as a mall-hunter during his 3-or-4-times-a-year visits to Jakarta. He clearly has had no problems scoring with the women here, so neither should you.
And many of the customers at the MPs are Chinese Indonesian, especially the higher-end places such as Malioboro and Alexis.
However, if you are still worried, one way to guarantee success would be to take one of Jakarta After Dark's tours (he is a regular poster to this board, his handle is "Jkt After Dark 2" (without the quotes, of course).
Just go to the Classified Ads section of this board and go to Page 4, you should easily find a couple of informative posts written by him there. I can think of at least 3 members who have used Jkt After Dark 2's services and then wrote posts that it was money well-spent.
So, welcome to Jakarta, and good luck! and make sure you go to Kartika Spa at least once. I was there again this afternoon, and had yet another great session there :D
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Cookie70
You don't need to be bule to score in Jakarta: if you are male, still alive and have some money you will be OK. Remember, girls will perceive you to have money if you are Chinese in just the same way as they perceive bules. Being able to speak bhs Indonesia will be a great help especially in the more down market (but still OK) malls such as Atrium were most girls don't speak English. I suggest you take note of Mighty Spearsman's report with which I fully agree - there are quite a few non-bules who post in this forum who seem to do OK! If you search on mall hunting you may find some useful tips and certainly Jakarta After Dark will put on the right track quickly and effectively.
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[QUOTE=Bulai69]You don't need to be bule to score in Jakarta: if you are male, still alive and have some money you will be OK. Remember, girls will perceive you to have money if you are Chinese in just the same way as they perceive bules.[/QUOTE]
Probably true, except that there some groups of girls who focus on particular market segments. Some bars or other venues may be set up to deal mainly with expat bules, others are more for local Chinese, others for Arabs and Africans and so on. Go into the wrong bar, and you may find yourself, well, not ignored, but on the B-list. I always have some good-natured wrangling with a local Chinese friend: when I suggest a venue, he protests that the girls there are only interested in bules, and he wants to go to 1001 or someplace in Kota where I find I get ignored and he is on a first-name basis with all the Mamas.
But there are so many girls and bars in Jakarta that you really don't have to worry.
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Hi Cookie70,
Whether your a bule or not, you stand a good chance of connecting to the FLs as long as you daring & play smart in your mall hunting episodes!
I've been to a couple of mall hunts with both bules (like Bulai69), locals and Malaysians of differant races and till date have not failed to notice at least 1 FL in all malls but the only problems are these FLs to your requirements!
The most important factor is to simply smile (not like a wolf but a pleasant smile) to any girl that takes your fancy, if she responds positivly then next's step is to be DARING and approcahed her if you do not see any agresive males accompnying them! Ask them to go for a drink at any outlet in the mall and the rest is up to you!
There is no way you are unable to meet FLs in known FLs hang out places like Atrium unless there is a clean up operation b the mall and I have seen friends pick up girls at malls like Plaza Indoesia and Plaza Senayan, thus I dont see a problem for anyone!
Remeber dress nicely for that added attraction (by that I man not sloppy looking!)
Hope this helps!
KL Guy
[QUOTE=Cookie70]I've read all the report I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.
I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.
Cheers[/QUOTE]
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Thank you
What can I say? I'm almost in tears. You guys treat me better than my physical brother. Ha ha.
Thank you all for the information. I'll take all of it to heart and will post all my adventures. If any of you would like to meet up for mongering, I'll gladly join you. Just PM me.
Cheers
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[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman] Carrefour supermarket [/QUOTE]
* A supermarket with French management, I believe they're the only one supermarket in Jakarta which sells PORK...
I have no idea in other branch outside JKT.
(I could write this cause I always bought pork in Carrefour LebakBulus)
Pork for muslim is forbidden to eat, other animal is forbidden for muslim is Dog (even as a pet).
* JakartaAfterDark is a recommended partner to explore Jakarta's night life, I agree with you and he is a friend of mine too.
cheers...
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[QUOTE=Cookie70]Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.
How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay
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Hi there !
You're so lucky that you speak Malays fluently.
see in Indonesian board...many bule overpaid ! even a world class bule monger.
I suggest you to hang around in West JKT/ Kota area..., to be honest many gals in South JKT (Faletehan, Kemang or Blok M) prefer to sleep with bulay but not in West JKT area.
To score a gal ? Please do not follow bulay's suggestion cause a bulay monger usually prefer a brown skin girl with so native face. Just follow your taste and do not forget to submit the report in this board.
cheers.
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[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]It is being anticipated. This high tide is supposedly to affect coastal areas of Jakarta including the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta airport. I drove JC to the airport a couple days ago and I saw construction of concrete along the toll-road exposed to the tide. To block the tide I guess.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
Hi JAD, apa kabar bro ?...how are you ?
Do you still 'nongkrong' in Pasar Festival - Kuningan with Zemi bro ? hehehe...I miss your black hat !
cheers.
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Things are looking up, thanks to advice here and thru PM. I moved to south Jakarta, north Jakarta seems too close to to the potential flooding.
Hotel Melawai was full, at least when using KAHA Travel. So I'm in Country Boutique Melawai, a block away. 4 Star, published rate of Rp 750,000, but only Rp 400,000, all in, thru KAHA! Very nice place, no pool or gym.
Went to Melawai Hotel 6th floor yesterday at 4:00pm. Chose Tia from a group of 12 eager girls. Great performance, pouty lips, great face, body on top was good, a little wear and tear on the hips. Lots of BBBJ including CIM. Fun attitude and decent massage, very limited English, but she made up for it.
I'm back again today, using WiFi in the Hotel Lobby, after another visit to the 6th floor. Saw Tia again, big smile, but explained I wanted new girl. Chose Wadi (sp?)- short, a little fuller than I like (I like spinners), but nice face. Pretty good BBBJ, but not as good as Tia and BJ changed to HJ at the end. No English, maybe inexperienced, wouldn't repeat.
Again, about 12 girls, eager, I was the only customer at noon (maybe one guy was sitting on a couch in the corner).
Tried the Block M bars yesterday afternoon. I was floundering. First problem, they aren't in Blok M Mall (as I assumed), second they are difficult to find even after I found a great map, third they were empty or closed at 3pm (there is no action til later, I guess). I'll try again tonight.
Wow, I've been to many cities for the first time, whether mongering or not. I've spent 5 or more hours reading this forum and others, and taking notes. I now have a cell. Still, I've never had so much difficulty getting the lay of the land.
Couple more questions. Am I offending people by wearing shorts? CJ's and Tiga Puluh and BATS seems to be expensive places to drink. Cover charge, $8 drinks?? Or am I confused (again!)?
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Newbie
[QUOTE=Dboy]
Tried the Block M bars yesterday afternoon. I was floundering. First problem, they aren't in Blok M Mall (as I assumed), second they are difficult to find even after I found a great map, third they were empty or closed at 3pm (there is no action til later, I guess). I'll try again tonight.
Couple more questions. Am I offending people by wearing shorts? CJ's and Tiga Puluh and BATS seems to be expensive places to drink. Cover charge, $8 drinks?? Or am I confused (again!)?[/QUOTE]
For Blok M bars, like Top Gun and My Bar, my opinion is that Top Gun starts going around 10pm onwards and My Bar a little later. Those hotel bars are expensive and the women will try for more there also. Hotel bars start going late also. This isn't Thailand or Phillipines, I don't recommend you wear shorts to the hotel bars, or even Blok M bars.
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shorts is a nono
Shorts for men are on the golf course or on the way to Patongs beach okay, but anywhere else outside, restaurant, shopping mall, upscale (hotel) bar it just simply looks ridiculous. I don't own any shorts or flipflops.
No offence, man, it's MHO only.
Cheers!