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[QUOTE=Maxime;2573244]"only" 50 euro's? There are enough clubs in Germany where you can pay even less for a decent and good service of a decent girl.
But ok, as I understand now, they made the common practice official: so 50 Euro for 30 minutes is only "fuck & suck", for 100 Euro /30 minutes (or 150 euro /60 minutes) you get "standard" saunaclub service with DFK, OWO, etc (that elsewhere in Germany is 60/30 or 50/30 or even less). Let's hope the men will vote with their wallet and avoid this club (as I did already for a long time, since you could not get decent service here for "normal" prices).[/QUOTE]After 15 months, painful balls rush like everywhere, when in this business, my first rule is to never rush. But when fall in Switzerland for looks and even level in bed and even at Globe, when Switzerland is complicated for fresh new blood, as I chatted with new Virginia Globe, so I believe more in Germany than in Switzerland now. Beauties are more and more rare everywhere and even at Globe where no wow for new girls, when I had a great 2019 at Oase and manage sometimes to find a beauty at Sharks, Sharks and Oase being both less expensive than Switzerland. After few days, painful balls fucked by long time girls will stay at home, when brothels will be less crowded than before covid. Less old, less tourists, less Balkanians who don t like to give their data. Just have to be a bit patient, many Romanians in need of money will arrive soon.
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Regarding Delta. I think we are are all (more or less) in the same boat soon. Germany has 14% delta-penetration. US has 20% . So its no big difference.
[QUOTE=Clodius1;2573094]Indian variant spreading in the US too; I'll bet that DE is going to have second thoughts about letting Americans in the door and we'll soon be in the same boat as UK.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Maxime;2573244]"only" 50 euro's? There are enough clubs in Germany where you can pay even less for a decent and good service of a decent girl.
But ok, as I understand now, they made the common practice official: so 50 Euro for 30 minutes is only "fuck & suck", for 100 Euro /30 minutes (or 150 euro /60 minutes) you get "standard" saunaclub service with DFK, OWO, etc (that elsewhere in Germany is 60/30 or 50/30 or even less). Let's hope the men will vote with their wallet and avoid this club (as I did already for a long time, since you could not get decent service here for "normal" prices).[/QUOTE]It's a business and they're allowed to charge whatever rates they choose. You as well can go find other clubs, not a big deal. Thinking "other men will not go" is equivalent to being out of touch with reality. The market has already spoken given that more men showed up than girls on opening night. Highly doubt that people traveling across Europe, Asia, USA are going to cancel a trip over 50 euros. You're too caught up in the money and not thinking about the experience and enjoyment. These girls are there to make money and they will upcharge for services because they can as long as people are willing to say yes. One shouldn't dictate how another spends their time and money.
I never quite understood this infatuation with being frugal towards mongering. So many people feel "entitlement" to DFK / BBBJ services being standard for 50 euros. It's a common tactic to have a Basic package and Premium package. Standards change over time especially now given the risks of COVID. Besides that have you ever heard of inflation? 50 Euros 1-2 years ago ain't the same as 50 Euros now. These girls were likely hit the hardest I'm sure they could use the extra 50-100 euros more than you. Quit being cheap and treating them like machines, instead have a bit of compassion and pay them a fair rate for their services.
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2573316]Regarding Delta. I think we are are all (more or less) in the same boat soon. Germany has 14% delta-penetration. US has 20% . So its no big difference.[/QUOTE]Delta-penetration is what Cane is into. Need FKKs to be open in that case.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2573203]I'm guessing I read the same reports as Lanthano, one of the quotes was "First impression: insane excess of men.".....[/QUOTE]Sylvana should go make lots of money now before the influx of hot nubile Romanians.
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[QUOTE=Kuni042;2573316]Regarding Delta. I think we are are all (more or less) in the same boat soon. Germany has 14% delta-penetration. US has 20% . So its no big difference.[/QUOTE]The problem is not the % but the really strong increase of cases, like in Australia, Bangladesh, UK, France. I am afraid that this delta variant could be prominent in several weeks. Also unfortunately I was right when I was expressing my concern about the real efficiency of the vaccines, more and more fully vaccinated people are getting sick.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2573339]Sylvana should go make lots of money now before the influx of hot nubile Romanians.[/QUOTE]I was always shocked to see how many (relatively young guys) she managed to 'score.'
Are people really that dumb, drunk, or have such poor taste?
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Reports on regional forums and from people in Hessen say that the upsell level is high. Many more men than women at the moment. Hopefully the ratios balance out as girls return. That should help with the somewhat expected price gouging.
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[QUOTE=Mursenary;2572695]Wonder if this can lead to more girls actually spending more time outside by the pool. If so, that's one positive.
[/QUOTE]I read the outdoor area is closed currently which surprised me.
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[QUOTE=SharksHunter;2573318]It's a business and they're allowed to charge whatever rates they choose. You as well can go find other clubs, not a big deal. Thinking "other men will not go" is equivalent to being out of touch with reality. The market has already spoken given that more men showed up than girls on opening night. Highly doubt that people traveling across Europe, Asia, USA are going to cancel a trip over 50 euros. You're too caught up in the money and not thinking about the experience and enjoyment. These girls are there to make money and they will upcharge for services because they can as long as people are willing to say yes. One shouldn't dictate how another spends their time and money.
I never quite understood this infatuation with being frugal towards mongering. So many people feel "entitlement" to DFK / BBBJ services being standard for 50 euros. It's a common tactic to have a Basic package and Premium package. Standards change over time especially now given the risks of COVID. Besides that have you ever heard of inflation? 50 Euros 1-2 years ago ain't the same as 50 Euros now. These girls were likely hit the hardest I'm sure they could use the extra 50-100 euros more than you. Quit being cheap and treating them like machines, instead have a bit of compassion and pay them a fair rate for their services.[/QUOTE]Some amount of resentment is understandable. The locals feel that they fought hard (legislatively and otherwise) for monger rights and to establish clubs with certain service levels. Guys from other countries invade these clubs and do not pay attention to the local prices and spoil the girls, destroy the pricing standards set in place. Foreigners come and go but the locals who had hoped to benefit from the fruits of their hard work are now left with a bungled pricing system, greedy girls with bad habits, and continuously declining standards.
It is like you cleaned up your local beach and then a bunch of spoiled children invaded the beach and spilled trash all over and the cleaning is left to you except these spoiled kids keep invading every day.
I am a foreigner and I have that entitled attitude as well and throw my money around but I can perfectly understand I am destroying a system (with my occasional thoughtless actions) that was won due to the hard work of the locals.
BTW, from reports on this site, quite a few girls have stashed away a good amount of money. It is possible many guys paying money to fuck these girls are poorer than them in fact. That is certainly the case when you consider the local men but even some of the guys driving from neighboring countries, or even the ones flying from across the oceans may have less wealth than some girls.
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I never quite understood this infatuation with being frugal towards mongering. So many people feel "entitlement" to DFK / BBBJ services being standard for 50 euros. It's a common tactic to have a Basic package and Premium package. Standards change over time especially now given the risks of COVID. Besides that have you ever heard of inflation? 50 Euros 1-2 years ago ain't the same as 50 Euros now. These girls were likely hit the hardest I'm sure they could use the extra 50-100 euros more than you. Quit being cheap and treating them like machines, instead have a bit of compassion and pay them a fair rate for their services.[/QUOTE]I think you have to keep in mind what local rates are, what locals are paying. That isn't necessarily being frugal.
Plenty of Germans, and locals like me do not wish to go far beyond 50 euros for 30 minutes.
I would suggest that those, like you apparently, dead set on paying way above market rate might be better served waiting for Palace to reopen.
As far as I am concerned, the girls can earn less in clean, legal surroundings like in Germany, or try their luck for earning much more illegally in some of the other countries here in Europe. There's a trade-off even for Germany.
I however don't doubt that the upselling will be kept in check by supply when more of the girls arrive here, which they will.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2573416]I think you have to keep in mind what local rates are, what locals are paying. That isn't necessarily being frugal.
Plenty of Germans, and locals like me do not wish to go far beyond 50 euros for 30 minutes.
I would suggest that those, like you apparently, dead set on paying way above market rate might be better served waiting for Palace to reopen.
As far as I am concerned, the girls can earn less in clean, legal surroundings like in Germany, or try their luck for earning much more illegally in some of the other countries here in Europe. There's a trade-off even for Germany.
I however don't doubt that the upselling will be kept in check by supply when more of the girls arrive here, which they will.[/QUOTE]I will never understand this mindset of some German mongers, they buy expensive cars but don't have 10 or 20 euro more for the girls. If you have no money stay home.
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[QUOTE=Lanthano;2573416]I think you have to keep in mind what local rates are, what locals are paying. That isn't necessarily being frugal.
Plenty of Germans, and locals like me do not wish to go far beyond 50 euros for 30 minutes.
I would suggest that those, like you apparently, dead set on paying way above market rate might be better served waiting for Palace to reopen.
As far as I am concerned, the girls can earn less in clean, legal surroundings like in Germany, or try their luck for earning much more illegally in some of the other countries here in Europe. There's a trade-off even for Germany.
I however don't doubt that the upselling will be kept in check by supply when more of the girls arrive here, which they will.[/QUOTE]I find myself in agreement with your comments. Any who wish to pay more should travel to Zurich where they can pay €125 for 30 minutes. But I think this pay more argument is made here more for effect and not out of real belief.
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[QUOTE=SharksHunter;2573318]It's a business and they're allowed to charge whatever rates they choose. You as well can go find other clubs, not a big deal. Thinking "other men will not go" is equivalent to being out of touch with reality. The market has already spoken given that more men showed up than girls on opening night. Highly doubt that people traveling across Europe, Asia, USA are going to cancel a trip over 50 euros. You're too caught up in the money and not thinking about the experience and enjoyment. These girls are there to make money and they will upcharge for services because they can as long as people are willing to say yes. One shouldn't dictate how another spends their time and money.
I never quite understood this infatuation with being frugal towards mongering. So many people feel "entitlement" to DFK / BBBJ services being standard for 50 euros. It's a common tactic to have a Basic package and Premium package. Standards change over time especially now given the risks of COVID. Besides that have you ever heard of inflation? 50 Euros 1-2 years ago ain't the same as 50 Euros now. These girls were likely hit the hardest I'm sure they could use the extra 50-100 euros more than you. Quit being cheap and treating them like machines, instead have a bit of compassion and pay them a fair rate for their services.[/QUOTE]A good way to be generous /"compassionate" without fucking it up for others, especially the locals (whose contribution to checking price creep I greatly appreciate), is to pay for services rendered.
Instead of giving the girl extra, pay for a longer session. Or opt for an extra like CIM or Anal.
Respect the locals and their customs. Don't be the reason why many locals don't appreciate the international guys hurting the scene.
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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2573027]At the end of the end what matters really is the number of deaths, and on that front UK has terrible results and some are saying that London has the worst results in the world.[/QUOTE]Yes UK Government has made a mess of things but you can't keep referring back to the whole of the pandemic. As sad as it is with all the deaths to get a proper perspective you have to look at the situation NOW and double jabbed UK folk as I stated before rarely get infected and when they do it's a milder form of disease.
