FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2573415]Some amount of resentment is understandable. The locals feel that they fought hard (legislatively and otherwise) for monger rights and to establish clubs with certain service levels. Guys from other countries invade these clubs and do not pay attention to the local prices and spoil the girls, destroy the pricing standards set in place. Foreigners come and go but the locals who had hoped to benefit from the fruits of their hard work are now left with a bungled pricing system, greedy girls with bad habits, and continuously declining standards.

It is like you cleaned up your local beach and then a bunch of spoiled children invaded the beach and spilled trash all over and the cleaning is left to you except these spoiled kids keep invading every day.

I am a foreigner and I have that entitled attitude as well and throw my money around but I can perfectly understand I am destroying a system (with my occasional thoughtless actions) that was won due to the hard work of the locals..[/QUOTE]When the first FKK Clubs started around millennium, they would have 100 German mark per 30 min. Atlantis for example. With the introduction of the Euro this was translated into 50€.

This is 20 years ago and 50€ today would probably translate into 25 German Mark only.

During the millennium, girls from eastern European countries (not only Romanians) were taking advantage of the high rate and the selection of girls in a club was excellent. The men were also different. Only those who could affords it were going there.

With the opening of more clubs, more competition came into play and the prices stayed stable. In fact it became a lot cheaper over years due to inflation.

We need an elite club which charges 100€ entrance and 100€/30 min as standard to attract the best girls!

I do not know why I should share the best girls in a club with those who can not afford it.

In any case the current prices and service levels are no achievement by anybody except market competition.

They should be increased to be fair to the girls.

How were the first two nights? Can anyone report on how many girls there were and their quality?

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2573554]As all good sales people know it's a numbers game. She is relentless in her pursuit. I've never taken her of couse but still she continues to ask me every few hours.[/QUOTE]I have always been civil to her and never roughly brushed her off but that may have been a mistake, the last time I refused her which was for the zillionth time she got angry at me.

[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2573498]Mursenary is absolutely correct.

The newbie foreigners are disrupting the FKK ecosystem.

The FKK price of 50/ Marks now Euro for 30 minutes has been the culture.

Germany inflation rate has allowed Seniors over age 60 to continue to enjoy Life.[/QUOTE]We foreigners must be sympathetic to the German mongers who have been quite courteous to us. The locals visit quite often and on a regular basis and can hardly afford to pay too much. On the other hand foreigners generally visit for a short period of time and can readily afford to splurge. It is important for us to keep in mind our local counterparts when we get the urge to squander.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2573553]No I'm USA and waiting to have an experience similar to pre-covid visits.[/QUOTE]Thought you might be UK based and in a similar position to myself.

You meet very very few North Americans in places like Sharks or Oase. Certainly those who travel across the Atlantic from the US and Canada are incredibly scarce. They just don't have the holiday time to travel for long periods. 2 x 8-12 hour flights plus travel to and from the airport is normally too much for most who might try to consider a long weekend trip.

Most of the North Americans I have met have been based in Europe or occasionally have been visiting on business. It sometimes amazes me how many posting in Germany FKK are from the US and travel from the US.

With so many guys based in North American it certainly baffles me that no one is posting about the number one issue. Perhaps these guys are primarily on the keyboard and simply do not come but once in a blue moon and simply do not know. I guess they will figure it out in time. I am sure you are aware and good that you can travel.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2573744]We foreigners must be sympathetic to the German mongers who have been quite courteous to us. The locals visit quite often and on a regular basis and can hardly afford to pay too much. On the other hand foreigners generally visit for a short period of time and can readily afford to splurge. It is important for us to keep in mind our local counterparts when we get the urge to squander.[/QUOTE]Germans are not able to give enough business to WGs, same like Swiss in Switzerland. Some foreigners visit more often than Germans or even locals. At LR, no German could compete with me, as long I decided to go with superstar. More and more Balkanians making business, buying bottles, good for clubs, less for girls to go with drunk.

[QUOTE=Canary;2573617]This has always been my strategy ever since I first started going to FKK shops several years ago.[/QUOTE]Could any can one comment on Line Up, Quality, Nationality, Percentage of Returning girls v / s New Girls, Ratings 1 to 10, Young v / s Old, and Service Facror (not so important at least for now).

Price is always a personal preference and service and how deep your pocket is. No offense but there is always a balance and there is always something for everyone may be you are not the first one to get day virgin. If you prefer that than you have to pay.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2573782]Could any can one comment on Line Up, Quality, Nationality, Percentage of Returning girls v / s New Girls, Ratings 1 to 10, Young v / s Old, and Service Facror (not so important at least for now).

Price is always a personal preference and service and how deep your pocket is. No offense but there is always a balance and there is always something for everyone may be you are not the first one to get day virgin. If you prefer that than you have to pay.[/QUOTE]My friend said lineup improved on Saturday. More girls arrived and a combination of new girls and returning girls. Girls upsold more during the re-opening compared to pre-pandemic. He mentioned that now that there's more supply the upselling should even out.

Still the usual Romanian lineup he mentioned 30+ on day 1 and 40+ on day 2. Not sure on any other specifics. He tried Oase for a bit they had around 30 girls but better lineup was at Sharks.

[QUOTE=GironimoJones;2573756]Thought you might be UK based and in a similar position to myself.

You meet very very few North Americans in places like Sharks or Oase. Certainly those who travel across the Atlantic from the US and Canada are incredibly scarce. They just don't have the holiday time to travel for long periods. 2 x 8-12 hour flights plus travel to and from the airport is normally too much for most who might try to consider a long weekend trip.

Most of the North Americans I have met have been based in Europe or occasionally have been visiting on business. It sometimes amazes me how many posting in Germany FKK are from the US and travel from the US.

With so many guys based in North American it certainly baffles me that no one is posting about the number one issue. Perhaps these guys are primarily on the keyboard and simply do not come but once in a blue moon and simply do not know. I guess they will figure it out in time. I am sure you are aware and good that you can travel.[/QUOTE]"You meet very very few North Americans in places like Sharks or Oase. Certainly those who travel across the Atlantic from the US and Canada are incredibly scarce."

Where do you get this? Total BS.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2573686]When the first FKK Clubs started around millennium, they would have 100 German mark per 30 min. Atlantis for example. With the introduction of the Euro this was translated into 50.

This is 20 years ago and 50 today would probably translate into 25 German Mark only.

During the millennium, girls from eastern European countries (not only Romanians) were taking advantage of the high rate and the selection of girls in a club was excellent. The men were also different. Only those who could affords it were going there.

With the opening of more clubs, more competition came into play and the prices stayed stable. In fact it became a lot cheaper over years due to inflation..[/QUOTE]It is about destroying a pricing system that the locals worked hard to establish.

"In any case the current prices and service levels are no achievement by anybody except market competition. ".

Is that so? Why don't you organize to get these clubs set up in your own country and pay them as you please? Does market competition cease to exist in the boundaries of your native country?

You are a guest in their country and acting arrogant and screwing it up for the guys who made it possible in the first place.

If you have so much money, take more hours, more extras. Do 5 girls at a time if you please. You are rich and swimming in money as you say, so why not?

When outsiders destroy a pricing system that the locals worked to get in place, they are quite justified in banning all foreigners into their clubs.

Yes, there has been inflation. Not a huge amount but some. But it is up to the locals to adjust and upgrade prices when they see fit.

As someone pointed out, go the Swiss clubs if you please. But respect the local pricing systems and the guys who set them up.

[QUOTE=RichCandyMan;2573782]Could any can one comment on Line Up, Quality, Nationality, Percentage of Returning girls v / s New Girls, Ratings 1 to 10, Young v / s Old, and Service Facror (not so important at least for now).

Price is always a personal preference and service and how deep your pocket is. No offense but there is always a balance and there is always something for everyone may be you are not the first one to get day virgin. If you prefer that than you have to pay.[/QUOTE]Here was the Line Up on Saturday.

Dahely Nunez.

Anisha Sandhu.

Ajok Madel.

Hayley Ashton.

Barbara Valente.

Yilan Hua.

Nikki McGuire.

Malika El Maslouhi.

Get your Ass (Hole) on the Dance Floor and Dance Dance Dance.

[QUOTE=Toto001;2573686]When the first FKK Clubs started around millennium, they would have 100 German mark per 30 min. Atlantis for example. With the introduction of the Euro this was translated into 50.

This is 20 years ago and 50 today would probably translate into 25 German Mark only.

During the millennium, girls from eastern European countries (not only Romanians) were taking advantage of the high rate and the selection of girls in a club was excellent. The men were also different. Only those who could affords it were going there.

With the opening of more clubs, more competition came into play and the prices stayed stable. In fact it became a lot cheaper over years due to inflation.

We need an elite club which charges 100 entrance and 100/30 min as standard to attract the best girls!

I do not know why I should share the best girls in a club with those who can not afford it.

In any case the current prices and service levels are no achievement by anybody except market competition.

They should be increased to be fair to the girls.[/QUOTE]I think to remember I was told 50 marks /30 became 50 €/30 mn. I agree elegant beauties worth more expensive for me than average looks. I don't want to pay for looks who would not attract me outside.

Let's focus on Sharks lineup and any intel around the girls working currently.

Regulars in the Past 2019-2020 Lineup:

1. Ruby.

2. Kika.

3. Vivian.

4. Vanilla.

5. Lily.

6. Regina.

7. Zeynep.

8. Cora.

9. Corina.

10. Scarlett.

11. Emma.

12. Inca.

13. Brenda.

14. Ester.

15. Marlyn.

16. Evita.

17. Melissa.

18. Denise.

19. Loredana.

20. Sandra.

21. Elif.

22. Amalia.

23. Jessica.

24. Cheyenne.

25. Kyra.

26. Betty.

27. Cosmina.

28. Helli.

29. Serena.

30. Selina.

31. Anca.

32. Abi.

33. Mila.

34. Paloma.

35. Melanie.

36. Anastacia.

37. Vanessa.

38. Alma.

39. Loretta.

40. Alma.

41. Aimee.

42. Monica.

43. Helen.

44. Amanda.

45. Esra.

46. Elizabetta.

47. Sabrina.

48. Alina.

49. Connie.

50. Roxy.

If people have insights into any regulars working please share. As for new girls on the lineup that would be helpful too!

[QUOTE=Toto001;2573686]With the opening of more clubs, more competition came into play and the prices stayed stable. In fact it became a lot cheaper over years due to inflation.

We need an elite club which charges 100 entrance and 100/30 min as standard to attract the best girls!

I do not know why I should share the best girls in a club with those who can not afford it..[/QUOTE]Austria (Babylon in Vienna) and Switzerland await for you. Basically you'll pay twice the price (at least) for the same thing.

[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2573823]I don't know why some ISG users hate Asians or foreigners so much. Doesn't make any sense.

Asians' huge money actually maintain the FKK industries in Germany. Otherwise, locals money won't able to attract enough quantities and quality Romanian girls. Without Asians or America rich tourists, I believe most young girls will not come back or stay. The consequence is to left only old and ugly MILFs for locals. 50 per session.[/QUOTE]At Oase, desk say rate is 50/30 and extra are to negotiate with girls, but many Asians are fucked 150 for 10/15 mn with 1 baby kiss and some even with CIM in condom, finished before starting to fuck, saving vagina as say girls. Girls like easy, fast, small tool Asians business, some are even specialized in this business, like Evita or Elen.