Rio de Janeiro Reports

I haven't mastered it.

These are just my observations.

It is clearly an inefficient market.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2591937]I'm sure there is a nugget of information here that can be applied. The best a foreign monger can do in any country is make contact and make offers. Perhaps with some charm a foreigner strolls into 4 x 4 and makes a proposition to one of their top tier hotties, she think it's a great deal and accepts without issue. She instead might require a foreigner premium because you know language, culture, income disparity etc. Makes it necessary for her to ask for more. One foreign dick in several weeks ain't going to make her nut.

Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.

So why do you think the Rio market is inefficient other than you have proclaimed you have mastered it? I don't think a marginal buyer who drops in for a week or so is going to have the ability to play any inefficiencies.[/QUOTE]

Reverse Cycle Ops.

Your average top tier stripper at 4 x4 works 16 h to 24 h at 4 x4, maybe goes to Mosaico a few nights a week to fuck who she wants.

Your average top tier prive girl works 12 h to 18 h at a centro prive.

You, the foreign monger, parachuting into GIG or SDU for 2 weeks, staying at Av Atlantico are, by yourself, not going to make a difference, but in the union of gringos, may be able to, and by playing smart, definitely could do well.

The Swiss Naval Infantry teach something called Reverse Cycle Ops, or we own the night, or we are best when they are worst. Cariocas are cold blooded animals, scared of the dark because that is where vagabundos lurk, so, you want to play where they are not occupied. One strategy is simply to get the number of the terma girl and get her to a motel in centro during lunch or the afternoon before her shift at 4 x 4 starts, then take her to buzios, or even closer and better IMHO, to Marambaia Cafe / Pousada on the weekends. Boom. Sundays for 4 x 4 girls (or prive girls). The prive girl on the other hand -- a pernoite once a week (Because if she is any good, she is being dicked down for 8 hours a day from 11 h to 19 h; for example, I am a victim of my own success, ie, stephany, last time I checked which was Monday was booked solid to 17 h when I asked about her at 12 h.) That will show vagabundo that he should not share information too widely. Does the average local girl like a gringo? F no. Fat, often. Can't speak porto, always. Smelly, often. Bad hygiene, often. Money, that's the only saving grace. Small dick, usually, which is why he's paying for it. Asshole, almost always. Old, often. Asian, often, and not a plus for the average latina or negra. But you can play smart. Go reverse cycle: ie, go for the afternoon session at a centro motel (see the guiadomoteis), go for a rare weekday pernoite, go for the weekend pernoite or viagem always. And cross talk with your fellow gringos.

Or you could just be brilliant in the basics, as the Swiss Naval Infantry like to say in their basic school:

For prives, show up at 11 h, and get the apresentacao early so you can get the first session; or you can call ahead and book at girl who has high reviews on GPArena.

For the termas, show up in the afternoon, and ditto.

And if you are really a squared away Monger, you could follow the example of JimmyBoy, who stays at Hotel Atlantico Tower. Logistics, Logistics, Logistics. That is like 250 meters from 4 x 4, and less than 800 m from all the centro prives.

Staying in a Ave Atlantico hotel may be the going trend for newbies, of which there are many, but you don't have to be a lemming. You should stay at Hotel Atlantico Tower or Transamerica. Be the bat, not the ball. Gain and maintain the initiative. Be the hunter, not the hunted.

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2591964]I haven't mastered it.

These are just my observations.

It is clearly an inefficient market.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2591937]
Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. From this I take, the marginal buyer in SP has no power.[/QUOTE]I think if it is efficient, most girls should be able to make more money by having more customers per night, and also at a lower price. The girl make more money at lower price by fucking more. The current setup seems to benefit the club and a subset of girls more.

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2591937]Judging from the large, free market in Sao Paulo called "Scandallo" no one makes the market. It is about as efficient as a market can get foreigner or not. (Unless of course, you believe the rumor that the same girls who service men in clinicas in the afternoon show up at Scandallo at night.) Sao Paulo escorts of similar quality require similar compensation as the Scandallo girls. [/QUOTE]How is it a rumor that chicks go different places and charge different prices? That is fact. Two weeks ago a buddy was in Sao Paulo and posted in a group that he had just seen a chick and her friends that he knew from the beach in Rio. They wanted twice as much at Bahamas Club in Sao Paulo as they did in Rio.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2591904]I see these thirsty men out here tripping over themselves and kissing ass on fat, unattractive, bossy women trying to get some of that depreciated pussy! If there's one thing a committed monger is not, it's "thirsty" for some puss and ass! No way am I going to settle for "standard fare" when I know I can be boning hot, 20+ year-old Brazilian brancas and morenas, 70% of them in the ass (that's my Brazil LAA or Lifetime Anal Average)! We may all have our own individual challenges, but achieving sexual satisfaction ain't one of them! I gots 99 problems, but getting some pussy ain't one! And I will keep mongering until either I can't get it up anymore, I can't afford it anymore, or I'm not breathing anymore! So help me God![/QUOTE]Now I feel like I need a trip to Rio. What part of town do I stay in and where do I look. Bars or agencies? Cartagena fan for years but willing to head further south for a new adventure. Anybody there set up women?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2592301]How is it a rumor that chicks go different places and charge different prices? That is fact. Two weeks ago a buddy was in Sao Paulo and posted in a group that he had just seen a chick and her friends that he knew from the beach in Rio. They wanted twice as much at Bahamas Club in Sao Paulo as they did in Rio.[/QUOTE]I guess it depends how we are discussing different prices at different places. It's been very well-known that the top tier working girls generally charge more in Sao Paulo than in Rio de Janeiro. And to advance that thought, some of these girls might have been to Europe and charged even more.

I don't think that demonstrates an inefficient market.

I used the Scandallo example because that to me was the best example of an efficient market in one place in Brazil. The Rio and SP escorts know where they stand in terms of value. They also know that their value is higher in Sao Paulo. In fact, a case can be made that Sao Paulo at this time has the better looking working girls than Rio. (Sure there will be some hotties in Rio. We're talking numbers.)

[URL]darkroom.com[/URL]. Be

But, you only can fuck so many girls a week.

A few weeks ago, I fucked Kelly on a Sunday.

[URL]https://www.bradmontana.com/atrizes/kelly-oliveira/[/URL]

She is hotter than any SP girl, I am willing to bet; and expert porn players agree.

I bet she is getting taken off the market by being overpaid in Euroland; but I also believe she is a true carioca resident of RJ, and to Rio she will return. For every one like her (and she has a 4 year old kid, and she is like 19), there are many more to be had, especially in the relative wilds of Niteroi and further towards Buzios where she is from.

At any given time, there are girls like Mayara Rodrigues in Rio.

I was at 4 x 4 tonight.

You can't tell me that there are hookers hotter than a certain Pietra. Jimmy Boy fucked her last night. Then she went into a suruba with a 5 guys x 5 girls. And next week sometime, if I have enough fluid left in my body (which is why I am quitting alcohol) I too will enjoy her in a hydromassagem at a motel, and possibly later at my apartment.

I had a normal day.

I missed my luxury bus into centro, so I took a city bus. It was raining so I got some wear out of and broke in a little more my desert boots, and my old Goretex Jacket from when we Swiss Naval Infantry embedded with our allies walked over hills in Korea. I got to Sans Pena, hopped on the metro, met up with Jimmy who was knackered from banging Pietra. I then linked with a cool battle buddy friend I made at 4 x4, who went to [URL]darkroom.com.br[/URL].

This place rocks!

It is on the 20th floor, in penthouse 6. It is a little hard to find, as such. But it is a prive with a deck. There were 10 girls. You can find the address on the site.

I highly recommend it.

But, I had forgotten my Cialis and Viagra, so I went back down to the street after my wingman picked a nice piece of tail to bang.

Then I got some meds, and patrolled over to one of the usual suspect prives, and cranked out a 1 hour session for 120 r.

Anyway, we then went to some spots in centro, picked up a flashlight / taser (my old one died; I recommend non lethal items for protection, as a first option). I am tired AF, as I have been training more. And my fucking is getting better, witness my 3 hour fuck on Tuesday. Look, gents, the girls want you to drink and smoke etc so you will not fuck as well. It's your choice.

So, then we went to 4 x4. It was too busy to really make headway with the best girls who were monopolized by the quasi criminal high rollers with their bottle service, though I did chat up some girls obviously, like Pietra. The locals hate we foreign mongers, and seek to cock block us. But whatever, we will get in there.

I guess I had some philosophical thoughts about sex addiction and whether it is sustainable to be a functional sex addict. But, then I decided to just keep fucking hookers and forget all that pussy ass bullshit!

[QUOTE=WyattEarp;2592336]I guess it depends how we are discussing different prices at different places. It's been very well-known that the top tier working girls generally charge more in Sao Paulo than in Rio de Janeiro. And to advance that thought, some of these girls might have been to Europe and charged even more.

I don't think that demonstrates an inefficient market.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2592419]At any given time, there are girls like Mayara Rodrigues in Rio.[/QUOTE]If you talking about the porn star Mayara Rodrigues, she's 42 now. She probably hasn't been paid for a scene in several years.

There have always been women in Rio who have shot porn. If that's what someone desires, they can find them. The best of them were working in the 2000's.

I know there is a hotel and apartments thread but this place gets more eyeballs.

Was looking into getting a good airbnb in copa but I just saw a great offer for $45 a night for a super luxury double room at royal rio palace hotel that includes breakfast and is by posto 2.

The airbnb is $55 a night so the hotel is actually a good deal if its decent and was wondering if anyone had any recent experience with that hotel?

I generally don't like hotels because they feel very cold, procedural and bland and I like to have my freedom to do things like wash my own clothes in my room.

Hotels in rio I seen are a hit or miss (moldy rooms, broken ac, terrible staff) unless it's a established brand like Marriott, Shareton or Hilton and with my last encounter with the Grand Hyatt in SP I don't have an affinity for these places as much.

Only reason I like SP is the airbnb over there are plentiful and you can get a great condo for $35 (gym, pool, balcony, full kitchen, 15th story room, washing machine and centrally located).

I've read some reports that some hotels are being renovated or already are this year so I'd like to hear some feedback. It'd be greatly appreciated!

I'll be in Brazil in September (7 days in SP, 10 days in Rio) so I'll be posting my experiences once I land and hopefully with my previous experience and new intel from you guys I can accomplish a whole lot more.

Also for people talking about bringing a burner phone I would recommend it but for another reason.

My phone is a locked tmobile phone and as such it apparently doesn't allow me to download local brazilian apps on my phone. It just doesn't show up on the google play store.

So I brought my old unlocked phone and I was able to download some (not all tho) BR apps. The washing machine in the condo I was staying in SP required you to download an app and pay thru there to use it. Luckily I was able to use it but when I went to Ibraque Park I couldn't download the bike rental app.

Maybe I'm missing something but that was my encounter.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2592624]It just doesn't show up on the google play store.[/QUOTE]Try to change your google play country to see if that fix the issue.

[URL]https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/7431675?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2592631]Try to change your google play country to see if that fix the issue.

[URL]https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/7431675?hl=en&co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid[/URL][/QUOTE]It says you can change your google play store country one time a year so I'll do it on my 2nd phone and see if it works which helps the notion of bringing a 2nd phone.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2592624]My phone is a locked tmobile phone and as such it apparently doesn't allow me to download local brazilian apps on my phone. It just doesn't show up on the google play store.[/QUOTE]Why didn't you get Tmobile to unlock it? I used to always do that until I just finally started buying my phones direct from Samsung unlocked. You have to tweak your location and play store to get some apps from other countries.

On another note, I just got Tmobile internet in my house the other day. It is literally 30 times faster than that AT&T crap I had and only $50.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2592658]Why didn't you get Tmobile to unlock it? I used to always do that until I just finally started buying my phones direct from Samsung unlocked. You have to tweak your location and play store to get some apps from other countries.

On another note, I just got Tmobile internet in my house the other day. It is literally 30 times faster than that AT&T crap I had and only $50.[/QUOTE]Man, I switched from AT&T to T-Mobile a few years ago and never looked back. Also buy my phones unlocked.

At any given time, there are girls like Mayara Rodrigues in Rio.

That is music to my ears. I can't wait to go to Rio. Mayara Rodrigues is my all time favorite Brazilian pornstar. God help those Brazilian buttholes if I make my way down there. My LAA is going to be higher then Canes when I get there.

[QUOTE=Bearsi;2592624]Also for people talking about bringing a burner phone I would recommend it but for another reason.

My phone is a locked tmobile phone and as such it apparently doesn't allow me to download local brazilian apps on my phone. It just doesn't show up on the google play store.

So I brought my old unlocked phone and I was able to download some (not all tho) BR apps. The washing machine in the condo I was staying in SP required you to download an app and pay thru there to use it. Luckily I was able to use it but when I went to Ibraque Park I couldn't download the bike rental app.

Maybe I'm missing something but that was my encounter.[/QUOTE]I [B]always[/B] purchase unlocked phones. Current Burner Phone is a [b]Dual Sim Pixel 4 with Google Fi (with Flexible for 1 service plan).[/b] I get service right off the plane. I'm done hunting for SIM Cards. With the Pixel 4 I do have the ability to get an additional SIM Card.

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