According to posts in lustscout, WGs currently charge:
30 min sauna club standard 100.
60 min sauna club standard 150.
Now there are barely any foreigners, rich Americans and Asian around the club.
Who could be scapegoats for price increment?
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According to posts in lustscout, WGs currently charge:
30 min sauna club standard 100.
60 min sauna club standard 150.
Now there are barely any foreigners, rich Americans and Asian around the club.
Who could be scapegoats for price increment?
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2573602]How many guys are telling that they have a small dick, they can t be hard and that they are a very bad lover. It is the same for the German mongers, they are saying they just paying 50 and get so much service. I can tell you this is mostly wrong. Many German mongers are overpaying the girls, give them gifts, invite them for holidays, restaurants. Some even have their second wife in the clubs, or are booking them for full days. I will also give you another info, when new girls are coming to FKK the boss of the FKK will contact the best clients to inform them, it is the same for the escort agencies in order to keep the best clients they will tell you when a new girl is there so you can be the first customer before she got overfucked.[/QUOTE]Thank you for an excellent and honest post! That makes total sense. I have lived in Germany for a long time so I know that what you're saying is true. This is especially true in the smaller clubs where locals visit. This 50 euros for everything is a nice story but that's it. If you see a girl every day for 5 hours for 500 even though the half-hourly rate might still be 50/30 its not fair to compare the service you're getting to someone who sees her once a year on his travels to 50/30!
[QUOTE=AmSexyBoy;2574274]According to posts in lustscout, WGs currently charge:
30 min sauna club standard 100.
60 min sauna club standard 150.
Now there are barely any foreigners, rich Americans and Asian around the club.
Who could be scapegoats for price increment?[/QUOTE]Don't worry, you can always find Frenchs, Belgians or Swiss willing to overpay.
Been a white knight is not going to get you any more pussy. Now that they just open up, thing are not normal. If there is not enough girl and too many guys, the law of market dictate that the girl can and will charge more. But when thing go back to normal, IE. The ratio of guy to girl are the same as pre-covid, and us guy are less desperate. The price will go back to normal. Pre-covid, I paid 50 for 30 min and 60 for 1 HR.
Now it is true that these girl go after Asian guy. I'm a California Asian guy. I remember my first time Sharks. An Italian girl smell new blood and ask for 2000 euro for 1 hour. "You are on vacation, why not just spend the money and have fun" LOL. I laugh so hard. Because I post a message on this forum asking what the price and services is. Thank you to all the people for answering my post.
And when I sit at the bar and talk to fellow Asian guy. I always tell them. Hey dude, the German guy here hate us Asian. We pay too much and demand very little. Causing the price to go up and the German rightful hate. The girl hate it when I talk to other Asian guys. When, I went to a room with this girl Ruby or Rudy "I think" blonde hair with glasses. We cross path with some girl. Rudy told me, those girl just say" don't go with him, he is an asshole" but she smile with a semi-evil look and say "I'm selfish, I don't give a shit, I just care about me".
To my fellow German guy" when you see an Asian, chat with them a little and tell them how thing work and what they can get.
[QUOTE=McAdonis;2574083]If international mongers choose to go to Sharks this summer and pay 150 EUR per 60 minutes, then that is their prerogative. If you agree to that higher price, you should be more selective: do one room instead of three. Most international mongers reject at a 97 percent rate. Instead of just flatly telling the WG "No". Ask her what her price is. When she quotes you 150 EUR per 60 minutes, just feign a disappointed look and say "Maybe later", turn your back to her and walk away. The real reason you are rejecting her is because she is not attractive enough, but she does NOT need to know that. As a public service, do this 30 times per night. Approach some WGs you have zero interest in sessioning with, and reject them on the grounds of their pricing being too high.
Perfect excuse to explore some other options. Wellcum is 140 EUR per hour. You can stay on-premises, gorge on the best food in FKK land, and get a BBBJ in your hotel room while on a Zoom call. Why not go there? Go to Switzerland. Explore NRW. A lot of international mongers do two trips per year. If a year from now, 150 per 60 minutes becomes the norm in Darmstadt, then we should accept it. I just think accepting 150 per 60 min as the "market rate" during summer of 2020 is a little premature. Just a few weeks ago, Melissa and Helen, two Sharks superstars, were charging 150 EUR per hour incall. That price is acceptable for incall (even in 2012 this was the market rate for incall). But in a FKK club, where one is forced to pay 50-65 EUR entry and we have a meat market of other options, the rates should be lower.
As an aside, most of the Americans I have met are probably in the 80-95th percentile. $250 K per year is not exactly rich. What they share in common is a dedication to the hobby, as evidenced by their willingness to travel across an ocean. Many are single bachelors with no offspring and no alimony to pay. And if they are age 50 or older, they might have received some inheritance. These mongers spend probably a third (or more) of their disposable income on the hobby. Contrast that to locals who come from every income bracket and generally have lower dedication to the hobby.[/QUOTE]Indeed, vote with your wallet (better avoid this club at all, then the message is even more clear!
It worked in Babylon, where some of the price increases are already reversed in the second week after re-opening!
[QUOTE=JimmyFiddle;2574260]I went to Sharks again last Saturday at 2 pm. When I walked in there was no woman to be seen in the bar area! Immediately went outside to enjoy the good weather at the pool, because I saw the first lady, namely the little Bonita from the Philippines.
Later at 4 pm, of course other women arrived. I counted around 20 women in the bar area. A pretty Romanian girl with silicone tits and lipstick lips caught my eye when I went back inside.
Later that evening I went to the room with her, her name is Aliya and she used to work in Wellcum. She had brown hair and as far as age is concerned I would estimate almost 30 (definitely over 25), thin girl, tattoo on her arm (can't remember what, sorry). A quick chat at the bar, and after 5 minutes we go into the room which was my mistake.
I should have asked what she does and under what conditions. In fact, when we were on the mattress and slowly stroking each other, she told me that she asked for 50 euro extra for DFK. Since I didn't want to pay 50 euro extra, I decided on the closed lips variant. So no DFK, but I have to say that she did very well with Little Jimmy and despite the rubber my cock got hard immediately! She blows deep and slow, and the sex was okay in and of itself. I was ready to leave the room after about 20 minutes!
From 9 pm, maybe 40 women in total in the club, which is still not a lot, we hope that 50 more will arrive very soon!
I will definitely go to Sharks soon gain, let's see how it develops.[/QUOTE]When a girl tells you she worked at Wellcum, meaning with not demanding Italians, then not a quality reference. Got a quite pretty ex Globe girl at Cleo. Ch, low level for sex, couldn't even full enter in her little girl vagina. Was introduced by Megan who wanted I find a girl, to a new Globe girl, really lovely, but proposing 80/30 menu without kissing and guys at Globe go with her, when she looks like a woman among porn dolls, I told her I respect, but didn't go for low level service. Globe clients are not so demanding according to her. I don't even pay 40/30 if not kissing, no good sex for me without kissing. No more good reference now, but can find interesting girls in several places.
Good day my friends.
Because of work I find myself many kilometres from my homeland and not easy to travel home because of the virus. ISG give me much information about Germany and the fun that you could have in FKK pre-pandemic. Now clubs open again I can go and give back information.
I went to Shark on Friday June 25. I actually didn't intend to go, but in the evening I was restless (and between the legs). I got to the club late. Wasn't there until after 9:00 pm The check-in was relatively easy and quick. First impression: insane excess of men. Only occasionally do I see a woman.
It's stuffy, loud and looks like it did before the pandemic. But only at first glance. A little walk in the garden scares me. The garden, the whole area, is in a miserable condition. Parts of the garden furniture are lying around everywhere. Much is broken. Some pavilions will probably be under construction. There are glasses and dishes around everywhere. No effort was made to note the places that were obviously in urgent need of repair or anything like that.
Overall a very sad picture. So back inside.
As for the ladies, I mostly only discover familiar faces. Unfortunately few optical delicacies. I did see Nico (I had visited her in her Darmstadt apartment a few months ago and was not good). I also discover Melina, who worked in a Mainz apartment until the very recently. I also saw Melissa. The pretty one with the red hair.
It seemed like there weren't more than 20 women in the club. No news when it comes to new young and fresh girls from Southeast Europe.
I only booked one lady. Unfortunately, I forgot the name (Ina? Lina? Dina? 29 years old, very nice body, tanned, very pretty and wonderful boobies. She explained to me that the service that was included before the pandemic is no longer available. I paid Eur50 for 30 min (no kisses). Overall, the whole experience was not very special. I just wanted to get the shot (and Melina and Melissa not available).
A ray of hope! Before I left I saw a young black lady; estimated early to mid 20's. She had long black and purple rasta braids. Maybe someone can tell me the name of this cutie? I would like to book her next time.
At the moment I don't know when there will be a next time. Need to wait a while until the club is in better shape and until the girls are there. I am curious to see if the other big clubs paint a better picture?
Until then.
I understand that I need to provide a negative test (antigen is OK?) when entering the club. But if I bring my own it can be 1-8 weeks old, impossible for the reception to know how old my test is?
Hi Folks,
After I didn't have a Super Sex Guy session in the FKK Oase on Saturday (Jun 26), I needed to scratch an itch and I went to Sharks again the following day. The outdoor area is completely open again, the pool can be splashed about in again and in the evening there was an outside barbecue again, which I prefer. All the guys were outside because the weather was good and it was never too crowded inside. Rather quiet towards the evening, most of them had to go back to work on Monday (just like me). About 40 working girls were present on the day.
Since I like pretty and natural ladies, I immediately went for Ivette. Very pretty natural face with hardly any make-up, about 1.63 m in height with light brown hair, fair skin, a few small tattoos (on right shoulder and on the both arms. Not a big bust size, but so cute, sweet and beautiful!
Really beautiful girl. I fell instantly in love. Normal prices (kisses included). Bit kisses turned out to be a few gentle touches on the lips. So some room for improvement. Blowjob was fine and very pleasant. Fucking was rather calm and cuddly. I didn't necessarily have the feeling that the chemistry was great.
But at least I had a fuck.
Well there is a date on your test no? More than 48 h=you stay out.
[QUOTE=Kippen;2574632]I understand that I need to provide a negative test (antigen is OK?) when entering the club. But if I bring my own it can be 1-8 weeks old, impossible for the reception to know how old my test is?[/QUOTE]Test may only be 24 hours old.
[QUOTE=GironimoJones;2573756]Thought you might be UK based and in a similar position to myself.
You meet very very few North Americans in places like Sharks or Oase. Certainly those who travel across the Atlantic from the US and Canada are incredibly scarce. They just don't have the holiday time to travel for long periods. 2 x 8-12 hour flights plus travel to and from the airport is normally too much for most who might try to consider a long weekend trip.
Most of the North Americans I have met have been based in Europe or occasionally have been visiting on business. It sometimes amazes me how many posting in Germany FKK are from the US and travel from the US.
With so many guys based in North American it certainly baffles me that no one is posting about the number one issue. Perhaps these guys are primarily on the keyboard and simply do not come but once in a blue moon and simply do not know. I guess they will figure it out in time. I am sure you are aware and good that you can travel.[/QUOTE]Many tourist come to large Frankfurt FKK clubs. French Italian Dutch Danes Swedes Swiss, some Spanish, some English, some American who live locally. Rarely see American that fly long distance. Rare same as Japanese or Chinese tourist who overpay the women.
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2574686]Test may only be 24 hours old.[/QUOTE]Isn't 48 hours negative test?
[QUOTE=HessenBob;2574691]Many tourist come to large Frankfurt FKK clubs. French Italian Dutch Danes Swedes Swiss, some Spanish, some English, some American who live locally. Rarely see American that fly long distance. Rare same as Japanese or Chinese tourist who overpay the women.[/QUOTE]On 2017, Sharks became Asian, reason why girls ask for increasing rate. US also need to tip, from their culture, when best tip for high level girls is when you return to repeat and some are proud among their club and even about staff, when they have a very regular who come from far and everybody know in the club.
[QUOTE=Kippen;2574632]I understand that I need to provide a negative test (antigen is OK?) when entering the club. But if I bring my own it can be 1-8 weeks old, impossible for the reception to know how old my test is?[/QUOTE]You can take a test at Sharks for 5 euros of go to various places in Germany and take a test and they will give you a certificate. Showing a negative white stick won't get you in, as you point out knows when or indeed who took the test.
In Hesse you need a negative test within the last 24 hours to check into a hotel so I assume also for Sharks test needs to be in the last 24 hours.