Angeles City

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2317871]I have read that in someplaces the barfine includes the girls share but in AC (I think) you pay a bar fine PLUS you pay the girl separate? Is this true?[/QUOTE]Barfine or otherwise known as early work release is all inclusive in Angeles city only. Although there are many girls working in the bar I will segregate below of what you can expect.

1. Mamasans. These are generally older ladies mixed with some young ones. They are in charge of procuring girls from the provinces to work. I do not know how much they get paid or their cut of the barfine and lady drinks. Many if not all are open to barfine and sex.

2. There are some pretty girls carrying around special drinks walking around although not in all bars. They charge for the drinks separately. They may or may not work for the bars. For the right compensation which is high you can take them after their shift.

3. Show girls- These are the dancing girls when they have a choreographed shows every hour or so. In some big bars. Shows are pretty good. You can barfine them if they are willing.

4. There are two or three sets of regular dancing girls who come on the stage in shifts. Their main aim is to get barfined quickly.

5. Waitresses- these are mostly ex dancers who are little older who take your orders and bring your drinks. They can be barfined.

6. Virgins or otherwise known as cherry girls are just looking for lady drinks or barfined for company only. No sex. They can be had for higher amounts.

In general any female in the bar can be barfined. Either old, ugly, pretty, young, thin, fat it is your choice. Girls have the choice who to go with or who not to go with. Some mongers pre discuss with the girl what they expect etc. Girls may keep their promises or renege on the deal. Once barfined if the girl refuses sex you have limited options. You can go and complain to the bar but depending on the bar you may get a refund or another girl.

Unwritten rule is you barfine for sex. Most instances you are guaranteed one time sex. Reasons given for not giving sex can be any ranging from not feeling well, menses, baby sick and need to go home etc. No way you can force sex unless you want to go to Philippine jail.

This is the general set up in Angeles city for newbies.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2317880]I believe the waitress in on the hook for it. Cashiers are on the hook for any shortage. Bartender is probably on the hook for missing inventory. Same thing in other businesses. I had a friend who went to work for a 7-11. After a week of unpaid on the job training and a week of working she found out they took out of her pay for shoplifters! She said wtf and quit.[/QUOTE]How is this policed? The girls are expert at slight of hand and ripping people of (including each other) so it can't be too hard for a couple to get together so that a few unpaid drinks go unnoticed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2317879]You have it backwards. In Manila you pay separately. In AC it is AI (all included). I think the AC all included is less than the barfine alone in Manila.[/QUOTE]Spot on. A barfine on Burgos will run you p3900 + girl's tip of 2-5 k. Assuming a tip of 4000, and 3900 barfine, its about 8000 and that does not include drinks you buy in the bar. In AC you might pay 3000 for the barfine, and add one drink and be done (no tip to the girl unless you are in the mood to do so in the morning).

Wow I did not realize it was that expensive in Manila. I would not pay over $100 usd equivalent (5500 peso) for sex, unless it is all night and I am getting 2-4 pops for that. I thought Ph was inexepensive for sex?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2318058]Spot on. A barfine on Burgos will run you p3900 + girl's tip of 2-5 k. Assuming a tip of 4000, and 3900 barfine, its about 8000 and that does not include drinks you buy in the bar. In AC you might pay 3000 for the barfine, and add one drink and be done (no tip to the girl unless you are in the mood to do so in the morning).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2317930]How is this policed? The girls are expert at slight of hand and ripping people of (including each other) so it can't be too hard for a couple to get together so that a few unpaid drinks go unnoticed.[/QUOTE]I seriously doubt one drink in the bar would go unnoticed. There is a ticket for each drink. The girls tell me they would just deduct anything from their pay. I doubt if there is an appeal process. This is the Philippines. Department of Labor?

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2318093]Wow I did not realize it was that expensive in Manila. I would not pay over $100 usd equivalent (5500 peso) for sex, unless it is all night and I am getting 2-4 pops for that. I thought Ph was inexepensive for sex?[/QUOTE]It is inexpensive if you do not go to Burgos and EDSA. I know you from the Medellin thread. It is the same thing there. Some guys like me stay downtown and pay $12/night for a hotel and go to casas and strip clubs where chicks are $9-$20. Some guys stay in a $30/night apartment in Laureles and go to Fase 2 and Energy where chicks are $60-$100. Some guys stay in a $75/night condo in Poblado and go to Gusto's where chicks are asking $300. Pick your own poison.

[QUOTE=Jbj64;2318093]Wow I did not realize it was that expensive in Manila. I would not pay over $100 usd equivalent (5500 peso) for sex, unless it is all night and I am getting 2-4 pops for that. I thought Ph was inexepensive for sex?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2318148]It is inexpensive if you do not go to Burgos and EDSA[/QUOTE]The prices quoted are accurate but they are formal barfines INSIDE the bars. Just outside the front door, street ST FLs can be had for 1000 or less. Even inside, after a couple of LDs the girls will likely give you their number and drop around during their time off for 3000.

There is tonnes of sex available in Manila for 1000ST to 3000 LT. It's just that the Burgos bars are set up for the new to town or expense account guys.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2318222]The prices quoted are accurate but they are formal barfines INSIDE the bars. Just outside the front door, street ST FLs can be had for 1000 or less. Even inside, after a couple of LDs the girls will likely give you their number and drop around during their time off for 3000.

There is tonnes of sex available in Manila for 1000ST to 3000 LT. It's just that the Burgos bars are set up for the new to town or expense account guys.[/QUOTE]Care to expound on ratios of real ladies vs. Ladyboys on Burgos for pickup? On my trip back to NAIA, my driver drove thru Burgos and the vast majority of people outside the bars were ladyboys, like 80% or more.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2318278]Care to expound on ratios of real ladies vs. Ladyboys on Burgos for pickup? On my trip back to NAIA, my driver drove thru Burgos and the vast majority of people outside the bars were ladyboys, like 80% or more.[/QUOTE]I'd put it at 50/50 but there certainly are times of the night when your guesstimate would be accurate. Girls of all types travel in groups so just wait for the tide to turn your way.

Enjoy. G.

I was in JJ Supermarket one time to buy some groceries. While the cashier is checking me out, I notice a little Filipino girl standing behind me. In one hand, she is holding a bag of sugar and a 100 peso note in the other. She must be doing an errand for mom. So I grab the sugar from the girl's hand and tell the cashier to scan it together with my items. The cashier then bags the sugar first, gives it to the girl, and tells her she can go. Next, I pay for my groceries and head for the exit. At the exit, I can see that the security guard is not letting the girl leave because she has no receipt for the sugar. I approach the security guard and show him my receipt, "It's OK. I paid for the sugar. " Then he goes, "Ah, no problem sir. " All this time, the little girl has not said a single word. No smile or any frown either. She is totally expressionless. I'm wondering if she is a deaf mute.

While it would be difficult to climb society's ladder as a deaf mute, I hope she does not end up working in one of the gogo bars on Walking Street.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2318222]The prices quoted are accurate but they are formal barfines INSIDE the bars. Just outside the front door, street ST FLs can be had for 1000 or less. Even inside, after a couple of LDs the girls will likely give you their number and drop around during their time off for 3000.
There is tonnes of sex available in Manila for 1000ST to 3000 LT. It's just that the Burgos bars are set up for the new to town or expense account guys.[/QUOTE]When I first went to Manila I stayed near MOA and went straight to EDSA where I think I paid 4000 back then.

The comment - "There is tonnes of sex available in Manila for 1000ST to 3000 LT. " - The question. Where? Are we talking about Greenbelt, do I just stand "outside the bars" at Burgos? Are we talking LA Cafe?

Also the availability may be for 1000 to 3000 but what about the standard for these prices?

For instance I can go to Thai Club in KL and pay 700ST and get 8,9,10, I can pay 400/500 at Beach Club and get 6,7,8 or I can get FL around Changkat and pay 300 and get 4,5,6.

Of course we know there are diamonds everywhere but on average what do I get for my 1000 - 3000?

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2318403]The comment - "There is tonnes of sex available in Manila for 1000ST to 3000 LT. " - The question. Where? Are we talking about Greenbelt, do I just stand "outside the bars" at Burgos? Are we talking LA Cafe?

Also the availability may be for 1000 to 3000 but what about the standard for these prices?

For instance I can go to Thai Club in KL and pay 700ST and get 8,9,10, I can pay 400/500 at Beach Club and get 6,7,8 or I can get FL around Changkat and pay 300 and get 4,5,6.

Of course we know there are diamonds everywhere but on average what do I get for my 1000 - 3000?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;2318278]Care to expound on ratios of real ladies vs. Ladyboys on Burgos for pickup? On my trip back to NAIA, my driver drove thru Burgos and the vast majority of people outside the bars were ladyboys, like 80% or more.[/QUOTE]You guys might be asking for too much. Where to find the best girls? What street corner? What do they look like (6-7-8-9-10)? How much $ for each number? Jesus de Christo, at some point you have to visit each location, see if you like anything, chat up the girls (while avoiding the LB -- it asia gents), decide what to take, and then decide later if the situation / girl was a bust or not.

To be specific, for 1000ST, you can find Burgos street girls, Malate street girls, LA Cafe girls, G-Point girls. However that's the low end of the thing (1000), and might limit you to a 5 or 6 in looks, or a girl who will agree to give you less goodies in the room, or you might just get laughed off the street. This price is NOT set in stone. NI, there is no way to answer your question: What do I get for this (or that) price. Everything fluctuates. However if you can pay more, 8-10 k, you can normalize with a hottie from a Burgos gogo bar for LT. Things that are standard in other countries are not standard in Phils.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2318403]The comment - "There is tonnes of sex available in Manila for 1000ST to 3000 LT. " - The question. Where?[/QUOTE]This is 2019. The internet!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2318426]To be specific, for 1000ST, you can find Burgos street girls, Malate street girls, LA Cafe girls, G-Point girls. However that's the low end of the thing (1000), and might limit you to a 5 or 6 in looks, or a girl who will agree to give you less goodies in the room, or you might just get laughed off the street. This price is NOT set in stone. NI, there is no way to answer your question: What do I get for this (or that) price. Everything fluctuates. However if you can pay more, 8-10 k, you can normalize with a hottie from a Burgos gogo bar for LT. Things that are standard in other countries are not standard in Phils.[/QUOTE]For a 1000ST I would expect a skank (in my eyes) but for others she is the best thing ever. YMMV.

You want to pay more than 10 k (say 15-25 k) then sure those girls are available, I know some (ex FHM and Playboy models, some current) but then they maybe starfish in bed. You need to pay and visit to find out as each person has a different flavour and thus pays according to his flavour.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2318148]It is inexpensive if you do not go to Burgos and EDSA. I know you from the Medellin thread. It is the same thing there. Some guys like me stay downtown and pay $12/night for a hotel and go to casas and strip clubs where chicks are $9-$20. Some guys stay in a $30/night apartment in Laureles and go to Fase 2 and Energy where chicks are $60-$100. Some guys stay in a $75/night condo in Poblado and go to Gusto's where chicks are asking $300. Pick your own poison.[/QUOTE]Yes that's me and I like to try to pay equivalent of $50-75 usd so I think going to AC is the best choice. I am going to try Tinder and maybe SA but not sure. I am the Laureles med range guy I do go to a hotel Casa in MDE but like to have a little time with the chicas so we will see what Ph has to offer. I got a cheap flight $540 for central usa round trip so decided to try it. I really don't like the heat and humidity but want to give it a try.