Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Frannie;1734082]Yes, but on another post on another thread today, you revealed that you live in Pattaya, Thailand. I have never been to Thailand, but I know that is a popular prostitution center. It just seems odd that you spend you life travelling all over the world to various centers of prostitution to meet financially successful affluent independent women who have their own homes in countries where the number of women who fall into that category are very small. In fact they are pretty small in the US also as a percentage of the whole female population.

Something just isn't right.[/QUOTE]What could not be right? For 5 years I have had a place in Thailand. Before that I was in Rio until it turned to shit. You only see me write about DR chicks (whether pro or non-pro) because this is the DR ISG section. No need to write here about chicks I have in Atlanta or Seattle or Los Angeles or Santiago, Spain or Nice, France or Vilseck, Germany.

A member pmed me the other day asking about info on mongering in Colombia. I told him that my mongering experience is very limited there because my MO is primarily non-pros where ever I go. If I have time then I will squeeze in some mongering, but in Colombia that is few and far between. When I am in DR I may be there for 1 week, but will only be in Sosua for 1 or 2 days to catch up with someone from this board.

To me it seems odd that a person could go to the DR 100 times and NOT meet normal everyday people, and continue to generalize that everyone in the entire country is dirt poor and can't afford milk and that every female that talks to a foreigner is a hooker or after money. To me it seems odd to go to a country 100 times and still not be able to have a basic handle on the national language. To me it seems odd that a person would continue to go to a country where they fear law enforcement is going to be out to extort them.

As I said, I have met many guys from this board so I can be vouched for. Ask Chris Long how I picked him up two weeks ago from his hotel in Thailand. We swung by my place then went out to several gogo bars and he did not have to spend a dime. (By the way, if you go out with Tomjackin he won't let you spend a dime.) The shit that I say is real no matter how odd it may seem to you. As a matter of fact, next time I am in DR I will swing by and pick you up and get one of my Puerto Plata nonpros to hook you up with a friend. That is how real mine is.

P.S. I never said anyone was financially successful or affluent. I only said that they are normal people with regular jobs and are not expecting money or to be "helped".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1734125]
To me it seems odd that a person could go to the DR 100 times and NOT meet normal everyday people, and continue to generalize that everyone in the entire country is dirt poor and can't afford milk and that every female that talks to a foreigner is a hooker or after money. [/QUOTE]I have met normal everyday people every time I have been to the DR, but I am constantly amazed that people can get by on such low salaries.

It would be helpful if you could give a breakdown of how much some of your ladies earn and how that relates to their monthly expenses. I do know that the monthly electricity bill for a small apartment will ususally run $70 to $80 per month just for using lights, a small fridge, a tiny water heater, and some overhead fans, and a lot more if air conditioning is used. I also know that pampers go for about 15 pesos each and that it would cost about $60 a month to use a public taxi to commute to work, and double that or more if a motoconcho ride is necessary at either end. I also know how much gasoline costs in the DR and how much propane for cooking costs in the DR.

I also know that qualified professionals like nurses make about $500 per month and a lot of people in clerical or sales jobs make a lot less than that. For example a super attractive young woman who was bilingual in English told me she was making 6000 pesos per two weeks as a hotel receptionist, and teachers have told me they make about the same amount.

Is that a fact or not? How much are your Dominican girlfriends making?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1734125]

To me it seems odd to go to a country 100 times and still not be able to have a basic handle on the national language. [/QUOTE]My Spanish is better than yours, but you are presumably also fluent in Thai and Portuguese as well as French.

Frannie,

I'm not taking sides because Mr E can speak well for himself but I have on 3 occasions met his non-pro girlfriends. One lives in Puerto Plata and works at a resort, another one lives in Santo Domingo and one who has her own car (she picked us up) in the Sosua area. They were all very sweet and normal girls and his relationship seemed normal with them. I'm not going to tell much about Mr E personal business but he is not afraid to shoot at girls that most guys would be afraid to talk to. His rap is more inquisitive where's most guys are about talking about themselves, he makes the girls think he cares about their lives. He is also a computer / electronics / Internet junky so he has a vast knowledge of things.

I've written before about his ongoing war with working girls but he is highly successful with non-pros. I've noticed his personality is not as challenging with the non-pros as it is with pros. Personally I don't think it would be a good idea for you two to hangout because you would be trying to analyze and dissect everything he does instead of just enjoying each other's company.

[QUOTE=Adinga;1734093]Has any one been experiencing delayed responses from Blue Garden staff when trying to make reservations over the Internet?

My first stay their I had a small billing issue where I was charged an extra day but it was quickly resolved in a professional manner and during my second stay I had a issue with a prostitute who was high on cocaine.

I reported her to the night manager and requested that a copy of her ID be posted behind the cash register in order to protected patrons from this girl. She took my money before we got down to business which was my fault.

Hopefully I did not get myself blacklisted from the Hotel because I enjoy the facilities and staff.[/QUOTE]I emailed on a recent trip and didn't get a response, so I booked through booking dot com, didn't have any problems. I am assuming you man the New Garden.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1734141]I also know that qualified professionals like nurses make about $500 per month and a lot of people in clerical or sales jobs make a lot less than that. For example a super attractive young woman who was bilingual in English told me she was making 6000 pesos per two weeks as a hotel receptionist, and teachers have told me they make about the same amount.

Is that a fact or not? How much are your Dominican girlfriends making?

My Spanish is better than yours, but you are presumably also fluent in Thai and Portuguese as well as French.[/QUOTE]I am a linguist. I have a BA in French and taught high school French. I also have an MBA in International Business. Of course I speak Portuguese and can get around in Thai, although I can not read or write it.

My girl who is an accountant makes 20 K and has a motorbike and is building a house. The one who is a pharmacist makes 29 K and 1 K bonus for coming in to do inventory. She has no kids and lives less than 1 block from work. My girl in Santiago is a call center supervisor and I know she pays 5000 for a 2 BR apartment. They all have undergraduate degrees.

Do we really care what Mr. E's chicas are earning and how they are spending it? I hope the next step isn't to ask him and his chicas for their financial audits and tax returns.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1734125]As I said, I have met many guys from this board so I can be vouched for.
[/QUOTE]I do not think any one is questioning your credibility but even your "buddies" on this forum take a jab for your, shall we say unconventional "I get it free" and insistent viewpoint that yours is the only reality. The reality, at least mine is, those that we Johns encounter, are there for survival or perhaps to improve their lot; Not for love or whatever you seem to be dispensing and, I do not do Sosua!

[QUOTE=Frannie;1734141]I do know that the monthly electricity bill for a small apartment will ususally run $70 to $80 per month just for using lights, a small fridge, a tiny water heater, and some overhead fans, and a lot more if air conditioning is used.
[/QUOTE]That doesn't sound right. Our bill is consistently around 900 pesos (20 dollars) per month for a sizable 3-bed flat and we leave 3 fans running almost 24-7. Was 1400 when I operated an invertor but outages are rare now. No aircon (I wouldn't have it if free). Use water-heater a lot because my mob forget to turn it off.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1734141]how much propane for cooking costs in the DR.
[/QUOTE]1350 pesos a month and we never eat out. Uneconomical because my family won't eat what I eat, so 2 dinners cooked most days.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1734141]
teachers have told me they make about the same amount 6000 pesos.
[/QUOTE]Public school teachers start on 12000 now. Dominican private school teachers can earn a lot less. Gringo owned schools can pay a lot more.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1734242]That doesn't sound right. Our bill is consistently around 900 pesos (20 dollars) per month for a sizable 3-bed flat and we leave 3 fans running almost 24-7. Was 1400 when I operated an invertor but outages are rare now. No aircon (I wouldn't have it if free). Use water-heater a lot because my mob forget to turn it off. [/QUOTE]When I had my apartment in Puerto Plata my bill was a little higher,3 bed,2 bath with good sized fridge,3 floor fans and water heater,11-1200 pesos. I added air con in the bedroom and only ran it at night and the bill went to 17-2200,I wouldn't live in the DR without air conditioning.

Today I came to Sosua from Santo Domingo. I went to metro buses before noon just to learn that next bus to Sosua leaves at 4:00 pm So I took the bus to Santiago to check if Caribe which has a station next to Metro has a better schedule. Lucky me I found a bus that left 10 minutes after I arrive to Santiago. I met a guy from New York that is going to be 20 days at New Garden, nice guy.

I arrived to Casa Cayena. I reserved a month ago but there was only one room available on floor 3. I informed Winfried my preference for a poolfront first level room so if a room became available I asked for a change. Today I got a room in one of the poolfront bungaloos. Thanks many thanks!

Today it is Sunday and public beach was full of people that arrived from nearby cities on school buses. Summer is high season for locals going to the beach. I saw a few cuties around and get the number of Azul for later.

After an excellent dinner in the hotel I went to the main street and a few girls approached me as usual. There was a pretty lady smoking a cigarette and drinking beer. She later approached me, at that time the NBA game was tied to 50. I hate the smell of a lady who smoke so although the girl was pretty I said no to her. She asked for money because she is pregnant. I get mad at her and asked why if she is pregnant she is smoking and drinking. She got nervous and put a sad face. I repeated you can, t do that and left to walk around.

When I was walking in front of New Garden a pretty 25 year tall lady from Santo Domingo talked to me. She was sweet and nice. I told her that I had only 1500 pesos with me because I arrived today, after thinking it a little she accepted. We talked about the do's and do not's so everything was set. After we arrived to the room her mode changed completely. Most do's were converted in do not. Her attitude was terrible, she was colder than ice, she ranked one in almost everything. I told her to stop and leave, I paid her the 1500 and she saw that I have more than 1,500 and was beginning to complain but I looked at her with the same mad and furious look I gave to the smoker and drinking pregnant and she just leave. Boy, I have to use that look more often.

It was not a good experience. Curious thing, my three worst experiences has been in Sosua.

After reading through all the back and forth over this, I actually understand where you're coming from. There was a time when I was living the same life, on a smaller scale, first just locally in San Diego and then all over the US, when I hit the road.

In San Diego I usually had between 6 and 10 women happy to meet up with me, whenever our schedules matched. Some were married, some single, some wanted dinner drinks and dancing and others just wanted sex.

Once I got out on the road I started adding women in the cities where I had some downtime. Had 3 in Phoenix, 1 in Albuquerque, 2 in Dallas, 1 in Houston and Austin and 3 in San Antonio. Also had one in White Plains, NY, 1 in Atlanta, 1 in Nashville (who moved to Florida), 1 in Denver and 1 in central Oregon. But the all time favorite was in Lexington, KY. Some wanted dates, others just wanted me to spend a night or 2 at their place. A few had hopes for something more than just the casual sex.

It is possible to find women who aren't just looking for money. Most are still looking for money, but they are willing to gamble on the long game. A rare few just want an occasional, reliable fuck buddy.

We are comparing being a player vs mongering. In the US their are an unlimited number of women willing to date or fuck guys who have their shit together. However try getting 20 something girls when you are 50 plus. This is a different sport. Trust me they are not rushing to fuck us in US or the DR. IMHO this is BS that successful young women are lining up for causal sex with foreign guys. I say wake up and put the pipe down. There is a class of girls in the DR who are driven by economic need to look for men who can help then pay their bills. Age and looks are minor factors. They will love your cash with real passion. If you have a personality that might even grow to like you.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1734299]After reading through all the back and forth over this, I actually understand where you're coming from. There was a time when I was living the same life, on a smaller scale, first just locally in San Diego and then all over the US, when I hit the road.

In San Diego I usually had between 6 and 10 women happy to meet up with me, whenever our schedules matched. Some were married, some single, some wanted dinner drinks and dancing and others just wanted sex.

Once I got out on the road I started adding women in the cities where I had some downtime. Had 3 in Phoenix, 1 in Albuquerque, 2 in Dallas, 1 in Houston and Austin and 3 in San Antonio. Also had one in White Plains, NY, 1 in Atlanta, 1 in Nashville (who moved to Florida), 1 in Denver and 1 in central Oregon. But the all time favorite was in Lexington, KY. Some wanted dates, others just wanted me to spend a night or 2 at their place. A few had hopes for something more than just the casual sex.

It is possible to find women who aren't just looking for money. Most are still looking for money, but they are willing to gamble on the long game. A rare few just want an occasional, reliable fuck buddy.[/QUOTE]

Her job is to perform what you two had agreed on, for the price agreed on. Not to look at how much cash you really have. I have had that happen before some time ago, where I told a chica I only had 2000 pesos and we had actually agreed on a couple hours, not just one hour. But after the first half hour passed, the things she said she would allow sure didn't happen. I decided to stick it through to an hour, and told her after that time she can leave. "que paso papi? No te gusta?" That's right genius. She was not easy to get out, and I since it was later at evening and I wanted to just hit the sack, I told her I'm still giving her the 2000 pesos but she didn't give me what I wanted nor what she said she would allow and she should be lucky she's even getting that. Pulled out the 2000 and she saw I had a couple extra notes, and pointed out "ohhhh tienes mas dinero! Mentiroso!" Yeah, just not for you. Now gtfo.

This will happen once in awhile. Now just find a chica you can build up some chemistry with and bang the living shit out of her, and you'll forget about this experience.

[QUOTE=BoricuaOnline;1734295]
When I was walking in front of New Garden a pretty 25 year tall lady from Santo Domingo talked to me. She was sweet and nice. I told her that I had only 1500 pesos with me because I arrived today, after thinking it a little she accepted. We talked about the do's and do not's so everything was set. After we arrived to the room her mode changed completely. Most do's were converted in do not. Her attitude was terrible, she was colder than ice, she ranked one in almost everything. I told her to stop and leave, I paid her the 1500 and she saw that I have more than 1,500 and was beginning to complain but I looked at her with the same mad and furious look I gave to the smoker and drinking pregnant and she just leave. Boy, I have to use that look more often.

It was not a good experience. Curious thing, my three worst experiences has been in Sosua.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EricThePrick;1733731]after a month in Peru, anything tastes good. [/QUOTE]Are you serious? There are gastronomic tours to Peru. Three of the top 50 restaurants in the world are in Peru. You are very strange.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1734436]We are comparing being a player vs mongering. In the US their are an unlimited number of women willing to date or fuck guys who have their shit together. However try getting 20 something girls when you are 50 plus. This is a different sport. Trust me they are not rushing to fuck us in US or the DR. IMHO this is BS that successful young women are lining up for causal sex with foreign guys. I say wake up and put the pipe down. There is a class of girls in the DR who are driven by economic need to look for men who can help then pay their bills. Age and looks are minor factors. They will love your cash with real passion. If you have a personality that might even grow to like you.[/QUOTE]I'll have to disagree with you there. If you have the budget, are reasonably attractive and can talk the talk, it's not hard to find 20 something girls who are happy to spend time with you, regardless of the age difference.

It's easier with women who are getting by, but not getting ahead. There are a few different reasons why this works. First, the 20 year old working hard to get by sees men her age as immature and irresponsible. A date with a guy her age, she's probably paying for at least half, and after sex, with no foreplay, he's out the door to drink and smoke with his friends. A date with an older man, she's having doors opened for her, she's eating at places she can't afford, and getting treated like a queen. If it leads to sex, he's more likely to be concerned about her pleasure, and he probably won't kick her out of bed after he gets his nut.

If it turns into a regular thing, most of her friends will be envious. She gets gifts, shopping trips, fancy restaurants and nice hotels, while they get the guys who show up drunk and horny at 2 am.

Maybe she will set her sights on tying you down in some way, or she might just be using you as a lifestyle upgrade. At the very least, if she has a real need, she can probably count on some help from you.

It's not easy and it's not cheap, although if you are selective about where you hunt, it doesn't have to be expensive. The DR is cheaper than Brazil, Pattaya is cheaper than Tokyo. It also takes patience. Chances are it will take a few encounters and plenty of conversation to get the first date, and it might take a few dates, to get what you want, depending on how well you play the game.

I would guess that Mr. E spends as much or more for each nut as you do, he's just paying it in different ways, dinner drinks, a little gift, gas, phone, travel, better hotel, etc.

In the end, we all pay for sex, one way or another.