Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1447673]Friend lives in San Jose, CA. Pays 160 per sesh at the AMPs there. Raves about the performance. Korean gals, Viets, Taiwanese. Spends a few months in BKK every year as well so has quite a bit of info for comparison.

When you are talking about 160 or even 260 per hour, let's see, umm. How much is your plane ticket to BKK? How much is your hotel? Add that into the cost of your partaking over here and I bet on a trip it is close to what you would pay in the states. Ah yes, free market and tourists, usually not a clever combination. Seems pre-raging internet days the sex tourist in BKK was far more savvy and was here looking for great girls at reasonable prices. If not, why not stay at home?

I know very few long term residents who frequent GoGo bars these days. Most hit the oilies, soapies, and have a phone full of numbers when they need to "get the white out." I can certainly understand the tourist's position and why GoGos work well for them, but for me, meh!

It seems even sillier when one can have nice sesh with Ploy at Cherry. White skin, slim, three holer, rims, love to have nuts in her mouth, pleasant, and as many pops as you like, pushing 50 I can only manage two in a very long hour. All for 1900 baht. Less than the 15 min ST tariff from some fresh off the farm Nana girl who thinks she is queen of the scene.[/QUOTE]Agrree with the phone contacts, why go to gogos and reinvent the wheel, and bear with the wannabe queens (don't get why these girls look down upon visitors / foreigners).

Agree about Ployatcherry massage.

Only her thoughts is giving me a hard-on right away.

What a girl man!

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1447653]Howard Stern, Jay Leno and others often do bits where they ask people on the street simple questions. It's simply amazing the number of Americans who can't even name the current Vice President. It's funny, but yet you want to weep in frustration. Arrrrrrrrrrrgh![/QUOTE]So true. So sad. I think the only reason my fellow oldsters got the Killing Fields was the tangential connection to the Vietnam War. I should have asked them in what century did the Armenian Massacre occur? I think my retired bus driver buddy would have gotten that but I doubt if anyone else would.

[QUOTE=Rbamane; 1447661]LOL. You are way too funny! I wish I could meet you sometime in real life.

Well, since my short stopover is more probable. I wanted to request you to pass on the digits of some of those Baccara gems that you pick up, so I can directly reach out to them and have a high chance of good service. Just being honest out here.[/QUOTE]The only Baccara girl I picked was a piece of shit. LOL. Number 066.

You know I wonder if she relayed to all the girls that they don't have to have sex with me to get paid. LOL.

Seriously I and the majority all agree hot agogo girls are just crap if you want to have a good time. They are there for a quick fuck, whatever else you get from them is just gravy.

Seriously if you want good service you have to go ugly-although I've never actually tried this theory out. I the rather waste money on a pretty girl than get good service from an ugly one. LOL.

Thats how I found my all time favorite.

You might want to ask Sir L how he does it. Seems he is quite good at picking good performers. LOL.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1447673]Friend lives in San Jose, CA. Pays 160 per sesh at the AMPs there. Raves about the performance. Korean gals, Viets, Taiwanese. Spends a few months in BKK every year as well so has quite a bit of info for comparison.

When you are talking about 160 or even 260 per hour, let's see, umm. How much is your plane ticket to BKK? How much is your hotel? Add that into the cost of your partaking over here and I bet on a trip it is close to what you would pay in the states. Ah yes, free market and tourists, usually not a clever combination. Seems pre-raging internet days the sex tourist in BKK was far more savvy and was here looking for great girls at reasonable prices. If not, why not stay at home?

I know very few long term residents who frequent GoGo bars these days. Most hit the oilies, soapies, and have a phone full of numbers when they need to "get the white out." I can certainly understand the tourist's position and why GoGos work well for them, but for me, meh!

It seems even sillier when one can have nice sesh with Ploy at Cherry. White skin, slim, three holer, rims, love to have nuts in her mouth, pleasant, and as many pops as you like, pushing 50 I can only manage two in a very long hour. All for 1900 baht. Less than the 15 min ST tariff from some fresh off the farm Nana girl who thinks she is queen of the scene.[/QUOTE]I think your friend is getting a good deal. Of course he lives there and the place I went to was just off Union Square. The $260 broke down with the ladies getting $200 and the MP $60 for the hour. I did back-to-back-to-back sessions with one lady and saved a couple hundred bucks. Gave her $500 and only paid the MP $60 for the first hour; and I got her number so I can make arrangements to see her outside the MP on my next trip this fall.

I flew in and out from the East Coast, USA. My flight was 1/4th the cost of a flight to BKK. I stayed at the InterContinental, which cost me about the same as in Bangkok (US$180 per night). The rack rate in SF is higher, but who pays that? I spent a lot more on food; dinner at Benu cost more than a night at the hotel! The weather was better than Bangkok; 80 degrees and sunny, and it was early July; should have been low 60's with fog and overcast. San Francisco is a fantastic city; it was a much shorted flight which is easier on this old body; and it probably ended up costing me about the same as a trip to Bangkok.

Still, I look forward to my next trip to Bangkok like a child anticipating Christmas. In my opinion Bangkok is a monger's paradise and offers so many opportunities for great sex with great girls at very reasonable prices. I only go to the GoGos for the show; and I don't mean the energetic, expert dancing. Haha. I get a big kick out of watching the customers and how the girls interact with them. I had fun fantasizing about the three Japanese guys gang banging the GoGo dancer while I was banging an FL later that night!

For sex I mostly go with the MPs. THB2300 for a two-hour PSE can't be beat. For a special treat I'll book one of my favorite escorts and get 8 hours for far less than I paid for the three hours in San Francisco; and I'll get unlimited pops and no clock watching with a very lovely and highly skilled lady, with BBBJ, CIM, rimming, FS and A-level. How much do you think that would cost with a high-end escort in SF? To round out the trip I'll procure a few FLs in the clubs. It's fun to hunt, especially when you're certain of bagging your game. I only do ST, pay no more than THB2500 and verify I'm going to get everything I want; and I only pay THB2500 if the girl is particularly sexy. I do the ST because after a couple of hours I want the girl out of my room so I can sleep. First thing in the morning all I want is my coffee and some time to plan who I'm going to f$%k next.

[QUOTE=McMaiden; 1446389]Made a trip once again to Bangkok over the week-end and arranged to meet up with the girl I met last time. We had been communicating and we planned to meet at the hotel on Friday and go clubbing.

But plans changed once she arrived. The plan was to have a couple of rounds and then go clubbing. 2 rounds later, we just decide to stay in bed. Sex is great like usual!

Got her story. She is a single mother with a kid less than 1yr old. Had some Arab guy who left Bangkok when business turned bad and left her with the baby. How she manages a figure like that with such a small baby, I can never guess. I am not really into mothers, but if you cannot guess, what the hell? I am pretty good at figuring out, but this one fooled me...[/QUOTE]Well done a fair game sex and no emotional involvement Sex should be like food or drink a biological necessity.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1447673]Friend lives in San Jose, CA. Pays 160 per sesh at the AMPs there. Raves about the performance. Korean gals, Viets, Taiwanese. Spends a few months in BKK every year as well so has quite a bit of info for comparison.

When you are talking about 160 or even 260 per hour, let's see, umm. How much is your plane ticket to BKK? How much is your hotel? Add that into the cost of your partaking over here and I bet on a trip it is close to what you would pay in the states.[/QUOTE]You underestimate the "holiday factor". If you go to an MP next to your office or to your house is like going to the plumber for a pipe cleaning.

Lots of people goes holiday and spend his time in a hotel, by a pool. Couldn't he go to the local pool near home? No. He wants to break from the daily routine.

Same is having a good sex time in BKK. It is not only the mere BJ or FJ, but the whole scene, the "hunting", the search.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1447673]When you are talking about 160 or even 260 per hour, let's see, umm. How much is your plane ticket to BKK? How much is your hotel? Add that into the cost of your partaking over here and I bet on a trip it is close to what you would pay in the states.[/QUOTE]Being from Europe, I cannot comment on US prices, but let's have a look at prices in Europe.

I live in Belgium and let's say I take a sex holiday in Germany, driving in my car to the various FKKs, party- and swingerclubs. Say in two weeks I drive about 2000 km, which will cost me about 250 EUR in fuel alone. Hotel costs: at least 100 EUR / night (and that buys me just regular rooms in small hotels outside of the big cities. Generally these small hotels are not GF, so bringing in a sex worker will be difficult. Food: breakfast included in hotel room price; lunch at20 EUR: dinner at 40 EUR. Nothing fancy, just standard German food in a local restaurant. I do not drink alcohol, so drinks will be max 10 EUR / day. Thus the non-sex parts will cost me: (fuel) 250 + (hotel) 1400 + (food) 840 + (drinks) 140 = 2630 EUR.

LOS: flight to Thailand 700 EUR; hotel 60 EUR / night (bigger and better quality than in Europe and GFriendly) ; food: 20 EUR / day; drinks: 5 EUR / day. Total 1910 EUR.

Now let's look at the prices for the fun part.

Germany (it has been a few years since I went there, so prices may have gone up somewhat) :

* FKK Clubs and Sauna-clubs: entrance will cost you on the average 50 EUR plus 50 EUR per SW (one pop, about 30 minutes max, multiple positions). Most will do BBBJ and CFS. DFK is a bit the luck of the draw. Anything more naughty is extra. There are also "all included" clubs that offer "as much sex as you can" for 120 EUR.

* Streetworkers (FL) and Red Light Districts: Anything between 30 and 100 EUR / pop for max 30 minutes."Covered" is the standard. Kissing, DATY, fingering, anal, ... all cost extra. Some will only do 1 or 2 positions. Mind you, these are rather "rough" girls most from Eastern Europe.

* Swingerclubs: no sex guarantee. About 80 to 100 EUR per evening (includes all drinks and also some food in most)

On a two weeks trip, I'll probably visit 3 swingerclubs (aiming for 2 or 3 pops each) , have about 5 FL from a Red Light District and do 4 or 5 Clubs (say 2 'all in' and 3 FKK / sauna) , again aiming for 2 or 3 pops in an evening. In total: 260 + 250 + 840 = 1350 EUR for maximum 29 pops.

In Thailand, I never took FL, always go either for LT from a bar or a-gogo or go to a soapy or MP. Say I have 9 LT at 100 EUR and 5 soapies / MPs at 80 EUR. LT is 3 pops and soapie / MP is 2 pops. That makes 1300 EUR (with some negotiating the price could be less, but I like to spend some time in the a-gogo clubs and give some LD to the girls I fancy) for 37 pops. To maintain that rate I will have to take some vitamin "V", say add another 100 EUR to the costs.

Pricewise there is not much difference between the "sex" part of my holidays, whether they be in Europe or LOS. But I get a lot more sex in Thailand, generally at a higher quality and more fun.

Strangely enough it is the "touristy" part of the holiday that makes it financially worthwhile to go to Thailand.

In summary: Thailand less than 250 EUR / day and I get 2 to 3 pops a day. Germany less than 300 EUR / day and about 2 pops per day. YMMV

PS: of course I do not go to LOS because it is an overall "cheaper" experience. It is because I have a soft spot (and a hard dick) for these LBFMs

[QUOTE=Rbamane; 1447661]LOL. You are way too funny! I wish I could meet you sometime in real life.

Well, since my short stopover is more probable. I wanted to request you to pass on the digits of some of those Baccara gems[/QUOTE]In that case your stopover better be in Streetwalker / Harold's mom's basement. Besides that, say he does give you some phone numbers. When they arrive at your door, what if you find out that his idea of a gem is not the same as your idea of a gem? I have never understood why some guys attempt to use this method instead of going to pick their own poison.[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1447673]It seems even sillier when one can have nice sesh with Ploy at Cherry. White skin, slim, three holer, rims, love to have nuts in her mouth, pleasant, and as many pops as you like, pushing 50 I can only manage two in a very long hour. All for 1900 baht. Less than the 15 min ST tariff from some fresh off the farm Nana girl who thinks she is queen of the scene.[/QUOTE]Now THAT's whose number you should be trying to get!

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1447681]I think the only reason my fellow oldsters got the Killing Fields was the tangential connection to the Vietnam War.[/QUOTE]It may also have been because of the 1984 Oscar award winning movie by that same name, starring Sam Waterston. Remember, it had that tear-jerker ending set to the sound of John Lennon's 'Imagine'. That will stick in your memory.

On the point of ignorance, this literally just happened to me. I made my hotel reservations last night for BKK, and this morning my credit card was blocked. Making hotel reservations in the same location that you also purchased air tickets to not 4 weeks earlier is apparently too big of a leap for their sophisticated algorithms to make. So I had to call them up to clear this away. I complained that blocking my card for regular purchases does not endear me to using their stupid card, and the agent (who they now cleverly refer to as a 'banker') told me the only way to avoid getting your card blocked when making international purchases is to get them cleared ahead of time.

None too happy, but I don't want any problems while in BKK next month, so I told him I need to get clearance for my upcoming trip. He asked where I was traveling, and I snidely told him "The same place I made hotel reservations to last night, and got flight tickets to four weeks ago: Bangkok, Thailand." He paused, typed into his computer for a few moments, and I shit you not, this is what he asked me:

"umm. That's Asia?"

[QUOTE=Kumbu; 1447750]the agent (who they now cleverly refer to as a 'banker') told me the only way to avoid getting your card blocked when making international purchases is to get them cleared ahead of time.

None too happy, but I don't want any problems while in BKK next month, so I told him I need to get clearance for my upcoming trip. He asked where I was traveling, and I snidely told him "The same place I made hotel reservations to last night, and got flight tickets to four weeks ago: Bangkok, Thailand." He paused, typed into his computer for a few moments, and I shit you not, this is what he asked me:

"umm. That's Asia?"[/QUOTE]Well we can atleast rule this "banker" out as a seasoned SEA monger. LOL

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1447734]Pricewise there is not much difference between the "sex" part of my holidays, whether they be in Europe or LOS. But I get a lot more sex in Thailand, generally at a higher quality and more fun.

In summary: Thailand less than 250 EUR / day and I get 2 to 3 pops a day. Germany less than 300 EUR / day and about 2 pops per day. YMMV[/QUOTE]I can understand that you prefer Thailand over Germany (even as a german guy) , but you can have more sex for less money without foregoing quality. Just stay in Nordrhein-Westfalen (so you don't need to spend to much money on fuel) and have a lo of fun. E. G.

Mc Sex in Hamm ([url]http://www.mc-sex.de/home[/url]) : 90 € per day with unlimited shots as a summer special. 119 € per day regular, including food and drinks.

Pauschalclub in Bochum ([url]http://www.pauschalclub.de/bochum[/url]) : 150 € per day with unlimited shots, including food and drinks.

Freude 39 in Bochum ([url]http://freude39.com/[/url]) : 30 € entrance fee. 50 € per shot. 20 € surcharge CIM. 50 € surcharge for anal, including food and drinks.

FKK Arabella in Wattenscheid ([url]http://fkk-arabella.com/[/url]) : 30 € entrance fee. 30 € per shot all inclusive whatever the girl is willing to perform, including food and drinks (ok, food and drinks are not that great, but at least you get something) , pricing modell changes regularly, often it's 3 shots all inclusive for 110 €

Grimberg Sauna in Gelsenkirchen ([url]http://www.grimbergsauna.com/1.htm[/url]) : 3 shots all inclusive for 110 €, including food and drinks, pricing modell changes regularly.

FKK Alina in Dorsten ([url]http://fkk-alina.com/[/url]) : 10 € entrance fee. 30 € per shot all inclusive whatever the girl is willing to perform, including food and drinks, pricing modell changes regularly.

FKK Acapulco in Velbert ([url]http://www.fkkacapulco.de/english/1.htm[/url]) : 30 € entrance fee. 40 € per shot. 20 surcharge for CIM, food and drinks inclusive.

Partytreff in Mettmann ([url]http://www.partytreff-me.de/[/url]) : 80 € to 100 € for 5 to 7 hours, unlimited shots, including food and drinks.

Partytreff in Dorsten ([url]http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de/[/url]) : 90 € per day, unlimited shots. 10 € beer flatrate, including food and softdrinks.

And there's plenty of more cheap sex in Nordrhein-Westfalen. If you do it right, Germany can be way cheaper than Thailand. But still, it's Germany and not Thailand and some might prefer to fuck thai girls instead of bulgarian or romanian girls.

Up to you, up to me.

P.S. no need to spend 100 € for a hotel in Germany, this also can be cheaper

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1447750]It may also have been because of the 1984 Oscar award winning movie by that same name, starring Sam Waterston.[/QUOTE]Good point. I remember the film.

[QUOTE=Kumbu;1447750]I made my hotel reservations last night for BKK, and this morning my credit card was blocked. Making hotel reservations in the same location that you also purchased air tickets to not 4 weeks earlier is apparently too big of a leap for their sophisticated algorithms to make.[/QUOTE]I always contact my bank and the issuers of the credit cards I will use and notify them of my travels. I also am registered with the USA State Dept and give them my itinerary and next of kin contact information should something happen to me. As my government is collecting data from my phone calls and emails, as well as where I drive my car, I have little privacy left to lose and don't worry about telling them this stuff. And yes, I did write "where I drive my car." For years local and state law enforcement have been scanning auto tags and building a database of where everyone drives in the USA. That may be news to some of you. Some of you may have been aware this has been going on since the beginning of The War on Terrorism. Don't you feel so much safer now.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1447777]I can understand that you prefer Thailand over Germany (even as a german guy) , but you can have more sex for less money without foregoing quality. Just stay in Nordrhein-Westfalen (so you don't need to spend to much money on fuel) and have a lo of fun. E. G. (...)[/QUOTE]Nice list Zauberfee, thank you. I will be in the Bonn area end of August, so I may just avail myself of your research. Yes, indeed mongering in Germany can be done cheaper, but I can also go cheaper in Thailand. In the end I do not think it is such a big price difference and it comes down to picking your own poison.

[QUOTE=Zauberfee;1447777]P.S. no need to spend 100 € for a hotel in Germany, this also can be cheaper[/QUOTE]At my age, I do like some comforts and I need a good night's rest to get fit again for the next day of strenuous physical activities.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1447707]You underestimate the "holiday factor".[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Zauberfee;1447777]I can understand that you prefer Thailand over Germany (even as a german guy) , but you can have more sex for less money without foregoing quality. Just stay in Nordrhein-Westfalen (so you don't need to spend to much money on fuel) and have a lo of fun. E. G.[/QUOTE]If we're lucky enough to live somewhere that has a decent sex industry and know the local industry well we will pay less than the tourist. But frankly I think it is more fun when it's part of ones travels; and even though SF was a trip as I lived there for over 20 years it was too familiar. For me, part of the allure of Bangkok is the foreign, exotic nature of SE Asia; and I do get a hard-on thinking about all those LBFM who find me to be such a hansum man!

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1447779]Nice list Zauberfee, thank you. I will be in the Bonn area end of August, so I may just avail myself of your research.[/QUOTE]Take a look at [url]http://www.rheinforum.com/[/url], lot's of reviews about Köln / Bonn and Düsseldorf (some reviews are even from me ;) ).

Maybe you might take a look at.

[url]http://www.traum-paradies.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.fkk-schieferhof.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.teenyland-koeln.de/html/index.php[/url]

[url]http://www.samya.de/Home/Index[/url]

[url]http://www.sixsens.eu/?lang=en[/url]

[url]http://www.parksauna-residenz.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.saunaclub-babylon.com/[/url]

Can't recommend much becuse I've been just at Parksauna Residenz, which is a nice club between Köln and Bonn with lot's of great looking girls."Normal" pricing modell for Nordrhein-Westfalen: 50 € entrance fee, 50 € per shot (30 minutes), 25 € surcharge for CIM, 50 € surcharge for anal, great food, sauna, pool.

As for a hotel, I've just stayed at the Hilton Bonn, which is nice, rates from 80 € on (90 € including bf if your not HHonors elite member) at the end of August. Take a look at ebookers.de and use promotion code GET15NOW or try hotels.com with promotion code JULYHOTELS10