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[QUOTE=Rk237;2568086]Hi guys,

So I've read many times on this forum and most of you guys always mention that paying upfront to a working girl is a bad idea. I wonder what's the logic behind this.

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What's the logic of it being a red flag is she ask for money first.

Second if I land in a situation where I've been asked to pay upfront then what needs to be told and how to deal with the situation.[/QUOTE]Honestly in all my years experience in dubai. 90% of all the girls were expecting to be paid first. Some of them because of bad experiences with guys, and some of them will cheat the girls. Honestly I never thought of it.

I do agree once the girl is paid, it depends on her full faith to fullfil the promise. But at the same time, if she gets paid than she does not need to of asking for the money later.

So for me, I never met from what I remember that did not ask first for the money. Tho. I try my best to not pay the manager first, as we never know what happens later.

[QUOTE=Rk237;2568086]Hi guys,

So I've read many times on this forum...[/QUOTE]My approach is to cover the when we pay question at the club. If I forget and get the question later, I offer to pay half up front. If pressed on full upfront, I offer taxi back. Agency girls always get paid up front unless we know each other.

All logical but then again I have done late night championship screw ups at Jules LM giving all money up front while not getting the more meaningful screw.

[QUOTE=AnotherDay;2568162]Honestly in all my years experience in dubai. 90% of all the girls were expecting to be paid first. Some of them because of bad experiences with guys, and some of them will cheat the girls. Honestly I never thought of it.

I do agree once the girl is paid, it depends on her full faith to fullfil the promise. But at the same time, if she gets paid than she does not need to of asking for the money later.

So for me, I never met from what I remember that did not ask first for the money. Tho. I try my best to not pay the manager first, as we never know what happens later.[/QUOTE]I think it's normal for a girl to request money up front if you are seeing her for the first time, I understand and expect that. She doesn't know you, you could be a creep and they have had bad experiences before. Usually when I repeat a girl, the second time they don't ask money up front. I make it clear to a girl that if she's good, I will repeat her and she will get good business, if not, she won't see me again. That usually works for me. So I don't mind paying straight up the first time, we are both new for each other.

I spent a very hectic couple of days in Dubai and stayed at Hilton Creek. Due to compelling work commitments, there wasn't any time to indulge in any other activities. However, it didn't stop me observing a very noticeable activity near my hotel close to Concorde and Moscow Hotels.

I had heard some old stories of overt and eye-popping, jaw dropping drive thru street pickups which was rampant in Dubai couple of decades ago. When it had become overtly sleazy, the LE agencies swiftly acted and restricted it to the confines of certain clubs. Since then, I believe the drive thru pickups hadn't really existed in Dubai without fearing the LE agencies.

I was flabbergasted when I saw both nights a handful of Uzbek / Iranian WGs openly standing near Concorde Hotel at the corner where outdoor 5th Avenue cafe is located. Few cars were patiently queuing to quickly discuss and secure the deal with these WGs. Apparently, both the buyers and sellers had no apprehensions of the LE. These ladies would stand at that corner and would occasionally take a leisurely stroll from that spot to Arman cafe all along the pavement.

Has anyone else been noticing the same, or was it just an isolated case? If it's happening regularly, then it could be a VFM for those who do not want to spend on club entry fee and other minimum spendings before scoring.

[QUOTE=Shiney1;2570004]I spent a very hectic couple of days in Dubai and stayed at Hilton Creek. Due to compelling work commitments, there wasn't any time to indulge in any other activities. However, it didn't stop me observing a very noticeable activity near my hotel close to Concorde and Moscow Hotels.

I had heard some old stories of overt and eye-popping, jaw dropping drive thru street pickups which was rampant in Dubai couple of decades ago. When it had become overtly sleazy, the LE agencies swiftly acted and restricted it to the confines of certain clubs. Since then, I believe the drive thru pickups hadn't really existed in Dubai without fearing the LE agencies.

I was flabbergasted when I saw both nights a handful of Uzbek / Iranian WGs openly standing near Concorde Hotel at the corner where outdoor 5th Avenue cafe is located. Few cars were patiently queuing to quickly discuss and secure the deal with these WGs. Apparently, both the buyers and sellers had no apprehensions of the LE. These ladies would stand at that corner and would occasionally take a leisurely stroll from that spot to Arman cafe all along the pavement.

Has anyone else been noticing the same, or was it just an isolated case? If it's happening regularly, then it could be a VFM for those who do not want to spend on club entry fee and other minimum spendings before scoring.[/QUOTE]I hang around that area a lot as I'm a regular at Arman (it was closed for a few months, has it opened up again?) and the nearby Baran Iranian restaurant. Yes I have seen a few ladies hang out outside Concorde and of course Moscow is walking distance, so you will see activity in that vicinity.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2570060]I hang around that area a lot as I'm a regular at Arman (it was closed for a few months, has it opened up again?) and the nearby Baran Iranian restaurant. Yes I have seen a few ladies hang out outside Concorde and of course Moscow is walking distance, so you will see activity in that vicinity.[/QUOTE]Arman is fully functional now. In fact, they had reopened just before Eid last month. Baran, which is at the catty-corner of Moscow is also fully functional (but it doesn't have WGs). The only Iranian restaurant in that area which still remains shut is Yildiz Saray which is located between Arman and Ghazal.

Coming back to the drive thru pickups just outside 5th Avenue cafe, I don't really think that it was a common sight earlier to see a bunch of 6-7 WGs waiting to be picked up at the street and openly plying their trade in public. Are the dynamics in Dubai really changing?

[QUOTE=Shiney1;2570119]Arman is fully functional now. In fact, they had reopened just before Eid last month. Baran, which is at the catty-corner of Moscow is also fully functional (but it doesn't have WGs). The only Iranian restaurant in that area which still remains shut is Yildiz Saray which is located between Arman and Ghazal.

Coming back to the drive thru pickups just outside 5th Avenue cafe, I don't really think that it was a common sight earlier to see a bunch of 6-7 WGs waiting to be picked up at the street and openly plying their trade in public. Are the dynamics in Dubai really changing?[/QUOTE]I don't think so. The street activities by the girls in large numbers will attract LE's attention soon. LE for sure do not like public display of large number of WG activity in the open. For example The SW activity on SZR near Crown plaza is very discreet and normal person walking there will not notice it.

[QUOTE=Shiney1;2570004]

Has anyone else been noticing the same, or was it just an isolated case? If it's happening regularly, then it could be a VFM for those who do not want to spend on club entry fee and other minimum spendings before scoring.[/QUOTE]Hello,

I was in Dubai last few days, and I visited the area, and notice the same.

But this is just for 10 or 15 minutes, after the red square and the outdoor Shisha cofe closing at 1. 30 am, the working girls trying to score from the night, and walking through the parking towards the Iranian restaurant.

Then they leave within 15 minutes.

Cheers.

Its been a while, well ID say more than5 months I didn't go to a wg club. Well there was no music, so it wouldve been boring.

Anyways, had the chance to visit our favourite moscow hotel red square. Arrived there at 11 pm. And was shocked that it was full and they didn't allow me to enter. But they told me to sit and wait till some people leave.

The thing is, there were alot of other guys who were waiting too LOL. Funny how no one looks at the other, as we all know why we want to go in. Funny situation nevertheless. Took maybe 40 minutes till they I reached my turn to enter.

The situation inside was honestly the best since before corona. Music was loud, had to share a table tho with other guy, which he was nice LOL. I was sitting I guess in the best place, the actuall middle of the club so I had a chance to look at every wg there!. And there were tons of them. I guess they are all back from their hiatus or vacation. Many diffrent types from young to older. Now the thing is. I was in the mood for a MILF. Or a chubby girl. Not a young one. So 2 caught my eyes, an older lady (well I assume in her early 40's?) huige tits, little bit fat but not in an ugly way. She had nice dress which was a bonus. And another one in white any teacher eye glasses, and had nice chubby stomach and big ass and nice tits. And the dress was tight. You can see her little fat in her stomach from the dress which made it sexy, I have no fucking clue guys LOL. I guess was a fetish night for me.

Drank my 2 vodka ginger ales. Than wanted to start and find a way to speak to them as they were not see near me. The bigger girl an older guy took her which was shame. But I wanted anyways the girl in the white dress.

So waited for her to go to the toilet, as they all go there to walk little bit so we try to talk to them, anyways when she came back. The thing is she had a look of arrogance which I hate. But I was like fuck it. Let me see. Talked to her, and she smiles and told me ill bring the manager.

When the manager came, discussed her situation, and it was 1. 5 k for the night as usual. (7 hours). I understood anyways that the girl english was good. So I accepted. And she sat with me, had only 1 chair, so asked the security to give me another which he got me, but ofcourse told me the famous sentence, *don't forget me man* . Which I have him than 20 dhs.

Ordered for the girl a cocktail. And she was honestly a nice girl to talk to. Anyways we finished our drinks than left to the hotel. And we continued speaking and laughing, I think we clicked well, as she is a nice down to earth girl, altohugh she does not look like it at all. But I guess a defense mechanism?, what I liked about her body was, she had fat in many places, but. It was tight. No flabbiness, not too much of it anywhere. Sex was really good but bj with condom as she is careful about such stuff which i guess ok. She was joking the whole time, which was fun. I enjoy natural situations.

All in all. A great girl, and I enjoyed the night there. I guess moscow is back.

[QUOTE=OnlyMe;2568126]From my little experience and humble opinion, a general NO to money upfront question with exception that it is rule set by manager or mamasan. Why so? For me it's 2 reasons: 1. If the decision is up to her and she likes you enough (or getting comfortable enough with you), she won't ask for it. Otherwise, she ask for it normally means she is treating you as a typical customer. For me it's bad signal for GFE. 2. Once money paid, also means that she has no reason to keep her whatever promises. A motivation for them to leave early, or poor performance on bed.

Actually this problem disappear when you deal with manager. Manager will tell the girl that they have to stay up to what time, and the girl is obliged to stick to it.

Anyway, I break my rule from time to time, depends on how much alcohol I have in my body and how much I like her..[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. I was caught off guard with Dubai WGs asking me to pay upfront thinking it was a joke, but some demand it and when they do, have zero incentive to keep their promises or provide good service. In Thailand or Dominican Republic I never had to pay upfront even with women from expensive go-go bars or who were high demand.

I also agree that when there is a manager or mamasan involved, the girl is less likely to change her mind, break promises, or leave early. The last thing a mamasan wants is a long line of angry clients showing up to complain the next day.

Ultimately, if I'm taking a WG, I'm making sure payment is afterwards OR I'm making sure there is a mamasan / manager involved. But yes, I did find a few women who did not demand payment upfront and they really made my trip better.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2571878]I agree 100%. I was caught off guard with Dubai WGs asking me to pay upfront thinking it was a joke, but some demand it and when they do, have zero incentive to keep their promises or provide good service. In Thailand or Dominican Republic I never had to pay upfront even with women from expensive go-go bars or who were high demand.

I also agree that when there is a manager or mamasan involved, the girl is less likely to change her mind, break promises, or leave early. The last thing a mamasan wants is a long line of angry clients showing up to complain the next day.

Ultimately, if I'm taking a WG, I'm making sure payment is afterwards OR I'm making sure there is a mamasan / manager involved. But yes, I did find a few women who did not demand payment upfront and they really made my trip better.[/QUOTE]My experience as a SB (not working for an agency or anything) just really been with myself and done quite few NSA, casual encounters where I get some rewards. There are times where I really feel h* as hell. So whatever I receive like flower, gourmet chocolate box, drink, dinner was appreciated but irrelevant. Admit, I actually have done a couple of times with a very experienced sensation therapist, I really loved the whole experience (I felt like I was the customer! Didn't ask for money and repeated another meeting for no exchange. But other times when money comes a first need or when I really needed to cover that overdue bill or buy myself new stuff, I'd actually politely ask for the rewards upfront, for many different reasons. The lady may not really like you but she's doing it for that sole need for money. So to save herself the hassle, she asks for it upfront, this will at least keep her motivated to meet and please you in the way you want. Despite her not liking it so it's like 'give and take'. I don't think it's about trust or anything but more of the need. Now, it's different with WG where she would be meeting from 2-3 encounters a day (in a non-regulated business or country!) I think she has all the rights to ask for the reward upfront, unless there's some kind of trust and mutual relationship with customers, which I assume with these type of jobs is zero to none. Happy Haunting!

I have a thing for a fit male masseur who calls himself a therapist but will also turn into eating every spot in your body. I will be staying in Dubai for a short trip, it's getting wet and humid Any suggestion?

What's the situation in Dubai for opposite-gender massage therapists? Any green spa or hotels on that?

Hello all,

I hope you all are fine and doing good, I am moving to Dubai next month and I am looking for pointers on pickup bars or clubs where I can talk to wg, any leads on VVIP escorts are also appreciated. I would love to reciprocate back.

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[QUOTE=Sagarkukreja;2572225]Hello all,

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