FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2580979]This is completely wrong. Any monger with a tiny bit of experience would have seen by himself that there is no relation price to service level in the sex for money market.

How many of you have really been to the shark since re opening? As what I read in the thread doesn't reflect the reality of what's happening in the club at the moment.[/QUOTE]But for sure there is a relation between beauty and price, service is all fake for me only beauty matters. The best service is never with a FKK girl sometimes with a escort when you have good connections with the agency and they recommend you newcomers and with normal girls.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2581155]OK thanks. The girl I met in the autumn of 2019 was also sitting in that area, but then at the bar, unfortunately I can't remember her name.

She was very good looking and smiling, but she quickly turned very bitchy when I turned down here ridiculous upselling and her suggestion to only go to one of those fuck-boxes where the old Kino used to be. People probably get ripped off even more if they decide to go with her.[/QUOTE]I don't get ripped off, I will never go with her even for free, she is good for the desperate US guys, before she was number 1 Asian hunter.

You're right, I'm going there in 2 weeks and instead of being excited, this forum has unconsciously made me more and more doubtful, you guys ***** too much for real without EVEN GOING THERE. I remember reading a lot of negative comments right before last time I went (Feb 2020), and everything turned out to be BS (did a 4 day FKK trip) when I got there had only 2 girls upsell (one of them was a thin dark skinned rom with the biggest natural boobs I've ever seen). People on the group think they're going to go to the most beautiful girl in the club (and she knows it) and if she raises 50 E above the normal price they get pissed, cmon, some girls are so busy that I can't even find an opening to go talk to her because they're always either in a room or talking to someone, so you think she's going to blatantly give you 50/30? People, you want to see less up-selling just go on a normal day or maybe in the morning but if you don't have something positive to say or a report to offer, just stay away from your keyboard (special mention to Mr Ho, eternal unsatisfied).

[QUOTE=SharksHunter;2581056]Anyone have insights via an actual report?

Legit intel or new info regarding the lineup?

No? Then stfu and stop bitching or complaining about the age old issue on pricing. Nobody cares about your precious feelings. If you don't like the prices go elsewhere. Like many have already shown there will always be a market of buyers and sellers. There are plenty of other options to choose from (Palace, Mainhattan, Oase, Samya, Mondial) if you're not comfortable with the uptick in upselling. This is not a NEW phenomenon. The German law changes around cover BBJ gave a perfect window into upselling. When I started around 2019 I heard from my monger friend who introduced me to the scene of the "Upselling" issue. I went to FKK Sharks and was pleasantly surprised. It was a great experience, regardless of a few providers upselling more than others. I had my choice to choose to decline services from the upsellers or willingly embrace and enjoy the experience. Now being a noob I accepted a bit higher prices because I was just glad to enjoy myself in the experience. Over time I wised up and stood my ground more firmly. However, even knowing market rates I still indugled on occasion with providers who upcharged a premium of services for 150 E /60 M, and it was worth it. Vanilla rocked my socks off and performed way better than average providers, and it showed me that you can't put every provider in the same category pricing wise. Each provider can dictate their own premium service offerings on top of the standard rates that sharks gives them. Call it entrepreneurship or whatever you want, but you don't dictate their pricing. Any of these mongers who believe they have the 'power' in collective bargaining and dictating market prices are high on hubris believing in a fantasyland that FKK sharks changes their prices based off this forum. German locals may not all pay the upsell, but speaking from first hand experience talking to some of the german locals and witnessing several pay for services in the club. They're still showing up daily. The regulars who come on a Tues / Weds were still there on Saturday. They complained that yes some girls are charging more than pre-covid, but they're retired and will still enjoy Sharks regardless because what else are they going to do with their time?

Remember it's your money, your time, your choice. Don't listen to all the stingy mongers telling you to only pay 50 E /30 M for every girl expecting DFK / BBBJ. Think for yourself like a normal human being and do whatever the fuck you want.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2581164]But for sure there is a relation between beauty and price, service is all fake for me only beauty matters. The best service is never with a FKK girl sometimes with a escort when you have good connections with the agency and they recommend you newcomers and with normal girls.[/QUOTE]You can find higher level with some FKK girls and for less expensive than with Russian escorts. You just have to be able to find and deserve. Just now, found a natural so fresh beauty who would be one of the prettiest at Globe, but also so fresh natural in bed, like a virgin in bed, but generous after her pleasure. Her so hard pointing nipples don t lie and then You can touch her clit. She really participates to reach her pleasure. We needed 3 tries to give her.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2581112]Only very friendly behavior Alina ex World yesterday, no tall blond Sabina. Both are usually not full busy, compare to the new Romanian Janine, but they should have better business than at lost World. Anastasia is back. No Melissa red hair for my third visit, same for Elen from Dubai. Long time Cosmina still at work. Not so good casting than on previous Friday, but salmon, no woman type Cris. Ro, no fast German, so had to repeat with around 180 milky skin virgin look also behaving like a virgin for love sex, even great BBBJ on our second time, really willing to please after her pleasure. She is really interesting for sex and a very fresh look. On top of Globe level for half rate.[/QUOTE]What is "180 milky skin virgin look"?

Are you paying above the standard rates?

Thank you for the live reports. Great job!

Amazing natural tits, but less full now, is Brenda staying at the bar on entry and restaurant side. Still at Sharks. Average face for me.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2581217]Amazing natural tits, but less full now, is Brenda staying at the bar on entry and restaurant side. Still at Sharks. Average face for me.[/QUOTE]Average face, sorry less than average and very sagging boobs. I was 1 time with her many years back, she is very clean and like to please but just not my style and therefor never repeat.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2581350]Average face, sorry less than average and very sagging boobs. I was 1 time with her many years back, she is very clean and like to please but just not my style and therefor never repeat.[/QUOTE]I agree for her face, reason why I never went with her when I saw her so often since many years, when you did go despite her face, so you are not so demanding for beauty, but her very big heavy tits are not sagging, but just impossible not to follow Newton and I much prefer than plastic. One at Sharks has plastic, but not pushing up as most, but pushing to center like wonderbra effect, really weird effect to see when topless. My best FKK girl used push up bra, but I loved her A+ cup perfect natural tits. New star has perfect natural tits and sign of her real pleasure is how her nipples become so hard and pointing when she cum. I love this.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2581211]What is "180 milky skin virgin look"?

Are you paying above the standard rates?

Thank you for the live reports. Great job![/QUOTE]At least, I write after my 3 visits since 1 July and 2 visits at Samya Koln. Whatever can be written, but on my 3 times at Sharks, I always saw quite empty, really not gay club, until late evening, with so slow business for most girls, I wonder if all girls make enough business just to pay their entry, when my visits were on Thursday and Friday. If You arrive at 2. 30 pm to eat salmon, at 7 pm You have around 50 girls waiting for your business, but unfortunately for me on this Friday, no Romanian woman type Cris. Ro I enjoyed and also after our room on previous Friday, no fast running German I was not able to hunt, just the full busy beauty. Only 1 target and she increased her rate to 100/30 and 150/60 for what I need to enjoy, compare to her first day on previous Friday, and still full busy usually for 15/20 minutes, when long time Cosmina or Ester are not. I think Brenda is also quite busy. 180 tall she said, I would say around 178 bare feet, but what a fresh full natural beauty with skin like milk, and same freshness for sex. When she would be one of the prettiest and highest level at Globe, but for half rate, but after she was exhausted while our discovery at 2 am, it was too easy for our second time, so I was a bit frustrated. But after looking at casting from 4.30 pm to 11 pm, no other choice, only her. She seemed surprised, I might be her first repeating on day. Then amazing second time, she chose a room with window, useless at night, when we went to one in the afternoon to contemplate her so fresh natural beauty with skin like milk, when I wanted a room with very beautiful bed. So funny, while I was taking care of her, shower started, she did stand up on the bed, I went to see, opening shower, of course nobody, but I told her: normal, Dracula is waking up. She was so scared, asking to move to room I chose which was still free after 15 mn after 11 pm, so few crowded business at Sharks, Balkanians drinking bottles at night. Then, again taking care of her, but much more complicated, we had to make 3 tries when she participated so much to reach her orgasm, she wants to get when taking care of her, rubbing her very hidden clit and can t touch for a while when she reached. So much more interesting than first room which was too easy. Disappointing casting for my eyes, even many girls, Estefania ex Oase now blond but Sharks is not for her when she is one of those who killed Oase business. But I managed to enjoy for 2 rooms with full busy beauty, for 365 € , when I paid 360 for also 2 rooms with full busy LR superstar 4 years ago, but with much better club and foods at Sharks than LR or Globe, so my package was not so bad when could have only half time in room at Globe for such rate and when she can compete for look and in bed with highest levels at Globe. When I have to be very careful not to hurt most of girls and even at Globe, but when preparing her, even advicing her to put gel not to risk to hurt her, but I have to improve for her so fresh potential. What is interesting, when interesting girls are so rare.

Sylvana really impressed me, the only one who dare to go among 4 Balkanians drinking vodka bottle with red bull, catching one in his 20's following her like little dog. She didn't even take him to beautiful upstairs rooms when she doesn't want to take risk to waste time having to wait for free room, but going around jacuzzis where not anymore caves. She is really amazing, starting before noon, still at work until 5 am, incredible.

2 saunas with maximum 3 people and 3 jacuzzis are working. Same for outside swimming pool and chalets in garden.

[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2581184]You're right, I'm going there in 2 weeks and instead of being excited, this forum has unconsciously made me more and more doubtful, you guys ***** too much for real without EVEN GOING THERE. I remember reading a lot of negative comments right before last time I went (Feb 2020), and everything turned out to be BS (did a 4 day FKK trip) when I got there had only 2 girls upsell (one of them was a thin dark skinned rom with the biggest natural boobs I've ever seen). People on the group think they're going to go to the most beautiful girl in the club (and she knows it) and if she raises 50 E above the normal price they get pissed, cmon, some girls are so busy that I can't even find an opening to go talk to her because they're always either in a room or talking to someone, so you think she's going to blatantly give you 50/30? People, you want to see less up-selling just go on a normal day or maybe in the morning but if you don't have something positive to say or a report to offer, just stay away from your keyboard (special mention to Mr Ho, eternal unsatisfied).[/QUOTE]100% I was trying to pre-plan my trip based on this forum's reviews and commentary, however it was absolutely useless garbage feedback that caused me to doubt partaking in the journey altogether. Luckily I have monger friends who had done the great service of partaking in Sharks, Samya, Oase and a couple of clubs a few weeks prior to my trip to provide some assurances in quality lineups, better amenities, improved facilities in the scene. Week after week I waited for something useful as far as insights into a lineup, but nothing but this non-sense around pricing kept appearing. Luckily Lustscout and the other forums had German locals providing better intel on the lineups and regulars that had returned. Two of my fav's Ruby and Zeynep were luckily included and it gave me hope that my trip would be worthwhile. The whole finding a new stunner is honestly part of the thrill and excitement in mongering. You aren't guaranteed shit. You can't expect a review or report to truly influence your decision making process because end of the day beauty is subjective. You're either going to take the plunge and commit or sit on the sidelines and wait for some type of arbitrary signal that the stars have aligned for a 'perfect' mongering trip.

I'm grateful I took the plunge and decided to partake in the mongering journey. It was a fun and relaxing trip. Had 15+ encounters and some repeats with a few regulars and stunners. Explored multiple clubs outside of FKK Sharks. Was it the best all time experience? No. Absolutely not, but that was to be expected with tempered expectations from a post-covid world and the reports / reviews from several sources. Did I shoot my shot? Yes, several times each day. Did I get upsold beyond normal? Hard to say, I always get upsold every trip I go but this time I did notice an uptick from new girls on the lineups. Was it every single encounter? No. Several of my regulars and several new encounters did not upsell at all and it was business as usual.

So what's the reality? Is FKK Sharks dead? Is Mongering in a post-covid world not worth it? Sharks, Oase, <insert whatever club will continue to exist like any business despite COVID and will hopefully improve over time. Lower your expectations for having the pre-covid 2019 peak of quality women in the lineup and quantity of stunners in the 8/10 rating scale. Would I still recommend partaking in the journey despite all the restrictions (COVID testing, masks sometimes worn, limited capacity) yes. You're not going to shoot your shot nearly as many times in a day with your local market of mongering opportunities depending on your region of the world for 50 E /30 M or the premium 100 E /30 M + 150 E /60 M. You come to Sharks and Germany to binge in Romanian's for couple days or a week, the supply is still there and demand is high. Quality control assurances are tough to get a pulse on but similar to any previous trip you've made you got to TOFTT and roll the dice. Luck may be on your side depending on the week you go, but over time I'm optimistic the tide will change for the better.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2581155]....She was very good looking and smiling, but she quickly turned very bitchy when I turned down here ridiculous upselling and her suggestion to only go to one of those fuck-boxes where the old Kino used to be. .....[/QUOTE]That is definitely not Alina. I highly recommend Alina to any newbies going to Sharks. A good time is guaranteed with her.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2581409]I agree for her face, reason why I never went with her when I saw her so often since many years, when you did go despite her face, so you are not so demanding for beauty, but her very big heavy tits are not sagging, but just impossible not to follow Newton and I much prefer than plastic. One at Sharks has plastic, but not pushing up as most, but pushing to center like wonderbra effect, really weird effect to see when topless. My best FKK girl used push up bra, but I loved her A+ cup perfect natural tits. New star has perfect natural tits and sign of her real pleasure is how her nipples become so hard and pointing when she cum. I love this.[/QUOTE]I agree Brenda has an average face. Her boobs has been her allure for many a monger, big boobs on a slim body. Without them I would not have sessioned with her. I only did once but found her service lack lustre. She could not take a good pounding. Did not repeat. I may have got her on a bad day and would not discourage any newbie from having a romp with her.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2581608]I agree Brenda has an average face. Her boobs has been her allure for many a monger, big boobs on a slim body. Without them I would not have sessioned with her. I only did once but found her service lack lustre. She could not take a good pounding. Did not repeat. I may have got her on a bad day and would not discourage any newbie from having a romp with her.[/QUOTE]She is still one of the busiest, since many years. I like to see her impressive natural tits. Some other beautiful natural tits at Sharks, a small brunette with glasses.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2581409]I agree for her face, reason why I never went with her when I saw her so often since many years, when you did go despite her face, so you are not so demanding for beauty, but her very big heavy tits are not sagging, but just impossible not to follow Newton and I much prefer than plastic. One at Sharks has plastic, but not pushing up as most, but pushing to center like wonderbra effect, really weird effect to see when topless. My best FKK girl used push up bra, but I loved her A+ cup perfect natural tits. New star has perfect natural tits and sign of her real pleasure is how her nipples become so hard and pointing when she cum. I love this.[/QUOTE]Or you or I have to change our glasses, I still believe that her boobs are sagging. The most beautiful boobs I saw in a FKK was in World with a blonde girl, not so big has Brenda but very well proportioned and 0 sagging but I can t remember her name. May be she is still there but now with 5 years more may be her boobs also start sagging.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2581608]I agree Brenda has an average face. Her boobs has been her allure for many a monger, big boobs on a slim body. Without them I would not have sessioned with her. I only did once but found her service lack lustre. She could not take a good pounding. Did not repeat. I may have got her on a bad day and would not discourage any newbie from having a romp with her.[/QUOTE]Apart from the obvious huge tits, she also has very nice legs which are accentuated when she wears those sexy stockings. I remember when I first decided to take her upstairs, about 5-6 years ago, her service was very good; DFK, some good sports-fucking, playing with her two massive assets, rubbing her clit etcetera, but I agree that over the years her service has become more and more restrictive. Can't touch this, can't touch that, and DFK has changed into some 'kisses' with closed mouth. Still good for a quickie optik fuck though.