Kyiv

To Street Sleuth...

112.

Does anyone actually read these forums before posting a question? It's all been posted before. All the pro's in RP are in the disco - some filter downstairs (d'oh).

Hi, Everyone!

On Wednesday morning I depart England and head to Kiev for the third time this winter. Just to tell you a little about myself, I live in a small coastal town on the eastern side of the UK, for the last five years I've taken a great interest in Ukraine and Russia as a destination to meet a potential girlfriend for serious relations, even in my small town there are at least a couple of married or soon to be married relationships on the go, so I've worked my way through many dating sites which promise that soon you will meet the girl of your dreams if you join there site, but little did I know that five years on down the line I would still be single and not found the love of my life.

Because I run my own busines I only get to travel in wintertime and have very little time for anything else but work for the rest of the year. So this winter I decided to take the bull by the horns and travel out to Eastern Europe and to Kiev, not really knowing what to expect I started reading forums such as this one with great interest and wondered if some of the reports of girls walking about in great numbers was going to be true, well after being their for the first 24 hours I was in total fantasy land, never before had I been anywhere with this much pussy before your eyes, going down into the underground was a treat in it self with so many girls climbing aboard the trains as they thundered into the station, they warn you to keep your hands in your pockets when on board the metro trains because of pickpockets, but little did I know that I would need them in my pockets to try and calm down the big boner I was getting from having so much female flesh pushed up tight against you, in one instance I had one girl with her arse stuck right against my prick as we travelled from one station to the next until she got off, my god I just could not believe this city I was in. My visit initially was to find out if it was possible to meet a girl through an agency for a serious relationship, but having experienced Kiev lovely ladies at close quarter's I thought it was time to see some real action and go chasing some tail at the place called river palace, now for a newbie like me this was going to be a bit nerve wracking mainly because I had read beforehand that it was possible to pick up hookers who look model like, and boy were the reports right, talk about bare flesh walking about everywhere this was every red blooded mans dream of heaven, for the first 2 hours I just stood there staring as more and more young women arrived looking to make some dollars for themselves and there were plenty of takers alright, by this point time had flashed by and it was getting late and alot of the real head turners were being snapped up by guys of all nationality who had come there to seek there pleasure for the night, so I made my move on this cute blond head girl in a short red skirt who had been dancing seductively close to where I was sitting for most of the night, at first she asked for 300 dollars for one hours entertainment, but after some negotiating I got her for 250 dollars for 2 hours, and she was a real cracker in bed, trying out different positions, but her strongest point was sucking cock which she done very well and enthusiastically, for the rest of my trip of 16 days I spent my time between river palace and using the escort agency Gia. My fav girls from there were Yana and Katrina really nice girls to fuck and talk too as well. Great place to shop and sightsee for a first timer here, while I was here in Kiev I booked a flight to go and see this girl I had been corresponding with in Lugansk, I reserved an apartment for 3 nights hoping this would be long enough time to get to know her and maybe see some bedroom action, but after arriving at Lugansk airport (if you can call it an airport)I soon realised what a dark and depressing city I had arrived in, my girl met me at the airport with interpreter in tow and we went to find apartment in all my life I have never seen such a shit hole as this place, there were many single girls wandering about constantly looking downwards to try and avoid the many holes in pavements and roads which you encounter when out in this eastern ukraine city, if I had my way I would get out of there now and return to Kiev, but I had potential girlfriend in tow and she was abit of a stunner so wanted to see how things would pan out first.

Next day Marina picked me up from apartment and showed me around her city, I must admit things do look a little bit better in daylight, the city didn't seem quite so depressing but still I would be glad when time came to go back to Kiev as things were getting abit out of hand with high priced restaurants and nightclubs she wanted to go to and for all that I was seeing very little affection in return, just all of her Ukraine girlfriends constantly asking me questions about what it was like to live in my country, nice to have so much attention from females but when they only want your brain then it gets abit tiresome after a while, so it was time for my flight back to kiev and not having scored with this girl I decided that would be the end of our relationship, not only because of no sexual encounter but because I didn't want to go back to Lugansk in a hurry again. The final day of my trip to Kiev was one none stop quest for girls, even though I knew I would soon be coming back out here I wanted to go out with a bang on my last day, so soon as my plane had arrived at Borispol airport from Lugansk I was on the phone to Diana at Gia agency and booked Yana for 6 hours solid, once she had left at 10pm I then had a quick nap before going up to river palace for the last time, one thing that I do enjoy about that place and that is the food, not too expensive and a good choice in there menu, if you want a good night out to eat, drink and have a dance in the disco, and then to select what girl you are going to take home and fuck then river palace is the place to go, but you do pay through the nose if you want a stunner to bounce about on your dick, in fact I found out from one of the girls that she turned down 500 dollars from a guy because he was acting a little bit drunk, in fact I watched some other guys get turned away from girls who looked only a 5 on a scale of 1-10, so with some of the girls it's not just about money but the way you act and appear to them.

I arrived back home in England at the end of November last year having spent 16 days there, my next visit to Kiev was going to be on the 3rd of January until 22nd 07, once more I arrived in Kiev full of happy thoughts on how much pussy awaited me, but one thing I noticed on this second trip was there didn't seem so many girls hanging around in river palace and also on occasions not that many guys, but on this second trip I was determined to find myself a regular girlfriend, I had been given a contact of an english guy who lives out in kiev and who would be willing to help me find a good agency who has girls that they know personally, but before I started on the serious stuff there was more mongering for me to do in Kiev on this second trip I was also given the name of an Italian man called Max who runs massage parlour out here and he would be helpful in showing me other places apart from river palace where you could find some action, but his massage parlour had some great looking young girls working there and I became quite a regular customer after a while, though there was never any penetrative sex with the girls it was well worth the money of 80 dollars to have a girl wash you down all over, then give full massage which includes her rubbing baby oil over her body she would then rub her body all over you as you just lay there listening to some music sounds (Bliss)and to finish it off she then either wanked or sucked you off, and then it was back into the shower for her to wash off all of that baby oil from your body. Max is a great guy for anyone who is first coming to Kiev as he can show you many things that are good and bad about the place, but there was one occasion on this second trip when his massage parlour got in the way of me having some really good sex with two girls, we had both gone to river palace for the evening and had just arrived when we spotted two girls who looked young and quite new to the place, in fact they had arrived from small city some miles away from kiev and were staying with uncle for weekend but also they wanted to see if they could make some money, in there city they were only charging guys 100 dollars for all night sex and at the time didn't realise how much they could make from guys in the palace, but sadly for me my friend Max got them interested in his massage parlour, he could talk some russian language which I couldn't so I didn't know what they were talking about, so before I could get on to the subject of asking how much they charge for sex they walked out and went home saying they would think his offer over of working for him, he wasn't interested in the sex because he already has beautiful girlfriend back in his apartment waiting for him. So I could of ended up with two gorgeous looking young girls for two hundred dollars for all night long. But you win some and you lose some in this crazy city.

Once you start knowing some of the girls over here it becomes less hassle in having too go out to disco to pick up girls instead you get girls phone number on first occasion you meet them whether it be river palace, moda bar etc give them a call a few hours beforehand negotiate sensible price with them and then enjoy all night long.

Before I left to come home from this second visit I tried my luck with the ladies looking for serious relations and here's where my english friend Paul came in very handy in pointing me to the right agency for this, and who were not going to try and rip you off. And what a good move this turned out to be I spent some1 hour going through there list of girls and looking at ones they recommended the most, in the end I picked 2 girls out from 120 I started with, both girls wanted to meet me and times were set up so we could meet in person, the second of the two girls who's name is Luda was a stunner, in real life far better than her picture at the agency and she seem to take a liking to me too, only small downside was that she could speak only little bit of english, but what impressed me was that she was paying for her own english lessons, but we had a great interpreter with us for the first two hours of meeting, after that we just went out on our own and managed to communicate not too badly, in fact I can't wait to go out and meet her again when my third visit to Kiev starts on the 7th of Feb, once more I will be there for 3 weeks and will still be doing some mongering even though I would like to really have serious relations with Luda, but until that happens or not then I want to get more involved with the regular type of girls off the streets, for me it would be a big feat if I could pull a girl off Khreschatyk and get her back to my apartment for some gymnastic fun without having to pay money, or give a gift instead, but I'm determined to give it a try and see what happens. This will be my last visit until November to Kiev so want to really go out with a big bang, anyone who wants to meet up and go out pussy catching on the streets and who has some experience and success of doing this then please PM me.

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[QUOTE=It Travel] I must say that thus a little bit over priced (basing the price on the girls standard, usually 5-7) Gia is safe, reliable and always in time. This make me happy not to sit two hours wating on a wh*** in a bar or at home!

IT[/QUOTE]


well sed It Travel, I am wit you one hundred pr-send,

I do not know wot going on this days in the Kiev threads, “The Connection” and “Observeration” or we or crazy, or the people in Ukraine wont to make us crazy, or mebey I do not understand wot it is going on in Kiev, I am cumfust...

I hope the grate and smart jokdson will handle it and thek care...

I am still waited to see your good reports for the girl from gia

have a good one.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]I would tend to agree that Observeration is nothing more then a fraud - the overuse of 'bloody' and you are English? Don't think so. The next words out of his mouth will probably be that he is some kind of English millionaire - how many times have we all heard that in Kiev! I think he is nothing more then a repressed programmer living in Southern California. I doubt he has ever been to or ever will be to the Ukraine. I am sure the closest he ever got to overseas was visiting Epcot center in Disneyland.

Sevastopol, how have you lived someplace for however long you mentioned and not know the name of the streets you walk on? Bad Russian skills or not - most people can pick out the word 'moscow'. ;)

The only person who has been laying down realistic reports lately no matter how vile we think they are has been The Connection. Completely sick; Tell us more.[/QUOTE]Cruiser,

All of a sudden I'm feeling like that dyslexic twat that may or may not live in Sevastopol!! :-)

Hello Kiev 1,

Where in Kiev Massage Salon and what is the name of the agency where you found our love. Just in case I'm the mood for love.

Bye bye

[QUOTE=Her555]well sed It Travel, I am wit you one hundred pr-send,

I do not know wot going on this days in the Kiev threads, “The Connection” and “Observeration” or we or crazy, or the people in Ukraine wont to make us crazy, or mebey I do not understand wot it is going on in Kiev, I am cumfust...

I hope the grate and smart jokdson will handle it and thek care...

I am still waited to see your good reports for the girl from gia

have a good one.[/QUOTE]


You have many from the past here in Kiev section... both good both bad...

By the way up today Yulia is in my opinion the best girl you can get from Gia... Of course it's a taste question... just those 5-6 kg overweight everywhere, and two more in the tits!

IT

I did figure there would probably be more hoes in the disco, but I just didn't feel like paying a (yet another.) cover charge, just to be told it would cost $200+ for a one hour session.

I've managed to find a 22 year old, a 7/8 for $60/hour. Others for $80 to $100/hr. $100 is my max. More than that, and why not just go with escorts in the US? Its not like they don't exist - you can get a hot escort in the US for $250 in most major cities.

The point remains - RP is over-priced. There has to be a better scene. Even in Odessa, in the clubs, sometimes there will be semi-pros (you won't necessarily know it - but then you talk to them, they propose action for around $70). Where are these places in Kiev?

This thread took a turn for the bizarre lately.

Cruiser, will you be in town next week?

By the way, I was catching up on my reading when I noticed the top models website. Some of those girls (and prices) are pretty fair (well for Europe)...as low as $60 per hour? I wonder what the catch is.

[QUOTE=Street Sleuth]I did figure there would probably be more hoes in the disco, but I just didn't feel like paying a (yet another.) cover charge, just to be told it would cost $200+ for a one hour session.

I've managed to find a 22 year old, a 7/8 for $60/hour. Others for $80 to $100/hr. $100 is my max. More than that, and why not just go with escorts in the US? Its not like they don't exist - you can get a hot escort in the US for $250 in most major cities.

The point remains - RP is over-priced. There has to be a better scene. Even in Odessa, in the clubs, sometimes there will be semi-pros (you won't necessarily know it - but then you talk to them, they propose action for around $70). Where are these places in Kiev?[/QUOTE]

I do not like hour service with some exception, so my prices are always referred to night ones...

I have seen several medium class girls and they all stay between 300 and 400 USD/night in Kiev, normally no agency, but on ad sites or on flirt. some are more expensive and go up to 500 USD/might.

Usually they start with 80/hour, and then the subsequent hours are cheaper...

Kiev is not cheaper than Moscow.

IT :(

Cruiser,

Thanks for the Club 112 suggestion.

$60/hour - the catch is she doesn't speak English, and doesn't like going out to bars/clubs/etc - so she only finds clients online, and only ones that speak Russian.

There are also apartments around, with a handful of girls at each, for around $60/girl/hour - the catch in these cases is the girls are usually 5's, at best.

Brandon,

I reread your post - originally thought you were referring to the $60 girl I wrote about, but now understand you were referring to the other website....sorry about the confusion.

IT - yeah, I prefer all nighters as well - but Kiev is definitely just too expensive for that. I'd pay an additional $75, (around $150 total), but $300+? She'd have to be a perfect 10 - and those are even steeper, unfortunately.

In Saint Petersburg, as of a couple years ago, you could get semi-pros for $100/night. I doubt its still like that now :(. Things change fast in these parts.

[QUOTE=The Connection]The International Sex Guide really needs a vocabulary section, I'm a pretty experienced guy and I didn't know many of them.

CIF OWO CIM TTFN and a dozen other saying were new to me. I'm from the south so maybe I just don't understand the negro talk.[/quote]The ISG does have a vocabulary section. It's under Abbreviations and with regards to 'Negro talk' this comment together with your remark in another posting about all 'English being gay' seems to suggest that in addition to your predatory inclinations towards naive and poor village girls you also have a little racial prejudice thing going on as well. At first I thought you were not real so to speak, an invention for the purpose of winding up the readers of this web site. However when you mentioned Disco Bruce I realised that this was not the case. Bruce does exist and is well known amongst many of Kiev's p4p's as a cheapskate who's been coming out with the same line in bullshit for many years now, in fact he would better be referred to as Discount Bruce. You may well enjoy success among the young girls here in Kiev but there is something in your postings that seems to hint at the typically over confident alpha male type who underneath the surface is one sick M.F.

After spending most of my holidays in Kiev for the past 18 months with a regular girlfriend, I spent the last week of January with no ties and with the intention of seeing what it was like to be back in the game.

The winter is definitely different in Kiev as opposed to sitting outside Double Coffee in Kreshatik on an August Saturday reading an ENGLISH book and chatting to whoever catches your eye walking by.

I checked whats - on and decided to spend my first night at 112. Obviously I ordered in a massage in the early evening for 250grv so as to relax myself and not go out with a loaded gun.

112 - Arrived about 11pm and it was quite busy as the disco in Arena is having a paint job. 70% Ladies v 30% men of which 25% of the Ladies were working as you can tell with the eye contact you recieve as you walk in.

Usual euro pop with occasional sexy dancers on the bar and plenty of girls dancing around the place.

Sat at the bar with a good vantage point of the girls dancing on the balcony and talked to various girls who came by or to the bar for a drink. Bought a drink (30grv) for a good-looking 20 year old blonde, slim , arse to die for girl and invited her to the back room for a chat as it is quiet in there. After 2 more drinks and hearing a typical Ukrainian girl's life story we agreed on a drink and some food at my place plus the exchange of bodily fluids for $100 until 6am (it was about 2-30am by now). I was assertive at my apartment and we enjoyed several rounds of bedroom gymnastics and after she left at 6am i slept soundly. So it was a good night in 112 with plenty of opportunities to find a working girl or phone numbers for a later date. I took the easy option as the price was right and she was an interesting , hot girl.

Night - 2 to come.

Jack

The nice lady on the street, metro, bus or wherever: HER job is to say NO! Doesn't matter the question, mostly she never really hears it anyway because as soon as you open your mouth she is formulating her english answer. NO!

Your job: simple, DON'T take No for a final answer! And IF you can get a smile or a laugh in the next 30 seconds. YOU are IN!

Scene metro. 30 something red head looking like 'Barbie'! You make eye contact AND NEVER look away until she does, keep looking until she looks again (and she will) then move over to her "Do you speak any english? " (at this point I have my mob out and finding the RUSSIAN text I keep there)

She of course answers. NO!

Oh please help me? Show her the text and her 'motherly' instincts take over and she promptly reads it and translates it back in almost perfect english!

(see, her JOB was to say. NO! ) (my job was to not accept it)

The text talks about a babe wanting me to call her and meet! Now she has this mind set that this guy is ok and others want him! Its just like walking with a hottie and you are now more attractive to others as this validates you!

I thank her and joke. 'You know english! ' She smiles and says 'yes of course'!

So we talk and as I had a pressing meeting I only got the mobile to add to the 'data base'!

But I am certain she would of accepted something to drink and a chance to talk if offered!

Man I love the metro & taxi buses!

LS Guy