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I know this may not be the right forum for this, but I would love to know the sugar daddy tactics within the USA.
In the DR I am happy to do something nice for these girls if I have a friendship with them. Sometimes a nice gesture without reason goes a long way.
Here in USA I have never taken the "hey I have a nice gift card to forever 21 if you are ready to suck the meat off the bone."
Approach.
Maybe I should.
Please detail how you introduce this concept as I am interested for sure.
I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.
I wanted an all night session for my last night in town, so I arranged to have my best GFE of the week over. I told her early in the evening that I would give her 3000 pesos in the morning. From evening to morning we alternated from bed to dinner to walking on the beach to drinking. It was great.
At one point she mentioned that she needed 5000 pesos for rent. I said no, 3000 is more than reasonable. I should have paid more attention then. I should have asked her then if she would be happy with 3000, or if it would be better to leave now with 1500 or 2000 for the evening, as opposed to TLN--and forced her to really make a choice and agree.
Most importantly, I told her I was flying out in the morning. I had this romantic notion that she would appreciate that I picked her for my last session. Wrong.
Instead, in the morning she says she really needs the rent money. She won't take my 3000, she's going to tear it up, etc. It wasn't too ugly, and I didn't get bent out of shape, but I gave her another 1000 and she split. It's nice to be somewhere that twenty bucks can make a problem go away. Still, it took the after-glow off our time together.
I'm sure if she thought I would still be around and calling for another session she wouldn't have gotten pushy with me. Better not to tell them when you're leaving.
(FYI. Yolande, Haitian spinner, 31 years old but looks great. Recommended, but obviously be smart.).
[QUOTE=AthTrainer;1750307]I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.[/QUOTE]Good question. I just got back from a short week there. There are girls out during the day on the strip, I. E. The corner of Pedro Clisante and Dr. Rosen. There are also a few walking around, including on the beach, and also the massage places.
Unfortunately these are all pretty much full time working girls. I like to session in the afternoon, and I felt good about one I picked up, but generally I did not like the selection and it was not a fun, relaxing hunt.
It's too bad there is not a spot people gather during the day, perhaps a rotating beach bar party with two-for-one beers when the guy treats a lady. I don't know if this would appeal to hobbyists, but I think non-pro girls would come out for free drinks during the day if it were low pressure and not too sleazy. Mr. Enternational commented below that there is not an endless supply of fresh DR talent, but I think there really are a lot of 18 to 25 year-old with nothing to do, a casual attitude toward sex with strangers, and an interest in making a 1000 pesos or two.
I understand that the authorities don't want anything too noisy in public. For example, I don't think the hotels are allowed to have unescorted girls hanging out at their pools anymore. If the event was organized online and popped up at different beach bars on different days (not Sundays), maybe that wouldn't draw too much scorn. What do you think?
[QUOTE=OldKool;1749924]I smoke a little weed every now and then. In the DR the vast majority of chica I have dealt with did not do any drugs. Most think weed is like cocaine. I do tend to pick chicas who are sweet and somewhat innocent. I have run into a few who used but they have been rare. I do not drink but do enjoy a nice buzz every now and then. I was surprised how few of the ladies were like minded.[/QUOTE]I just think it depends on the chica's comfort level. I smoke in the DR on occasion, and I'd say approximately 1 in every 4 chicas I had were down with smoking after they saw / heard that I was. It does help that I use a vape pen the grand majority of the time I'm in the Su, and a lot of girls are intrigued that there's really strong concentrated herb in such a gentle package. I don't know anything about blow, as the "White Horse" is a drug typically attributed to the lower half of my home state. If all pot tasted / smelled / hit like Dominican bud, I'd probably be clean and sober too -- I use it for anxiety and trouble sleeping, and that DR shit gave me a headache that kept me up for a couple of hours the two times I've tried it.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1750167]Not necessarily stupid. My cam girl friend, her most consistent tipper spends $2000 -$3000 on her every month and has been doing it for over a year, without ever meeting her. He's smart, polite, successful, but she's a fantasy to him and he gets a thrill from tipping her. If 2 or 3 big tippers are there, they compete to see who can tip the most.
Different strokes.[/QUOTE]Different strokes is right. I know a good looking businessman who sends good money down there just to have her send back rather lame pictures of her posing every which way. He has never met her except on social media. I introduced him to DR.
Since I know him well, I've been asking him why he would send money for a few routine pics, when the world is full of free porn, cheap chicas anything you could ever want.
It's fantasy that he has projected on to this particular girl, and he likes the control, and he's willing to spend his money on the good feelings. She's pretty, but wouldn't turn me on, but to him maybe she's Beyonc and Shakira all rolled up into one. He doesn't WANT other forms of stimulation, he wants to tell HER what to do and have her happy to do it for him. (he will be meeting her soon when we both are down there, and I suspect that might be the end of it).
I cast my mind back when I was new to Sosua. The girl of my dreams appeared the first night (how good is that!) and I was happy to go down there often and send money in between visits. She still measures up, but I don't give her money unless I'm fucking her, or getting her ready, and it's more like a propina at the end as I say goodbye.
It's all about getting your OWN value for your OWN money. You couldn't pay ME to fuck some of the P4 P women posted on here. I don't need to go there to fuck ugly fat chicks.
My point is that no matter what someone spends their own money on, they are getting something of equal value to them that THEY want, in the flesh, or even in their own minds, not what YOU want them to have, LOL. If you insist on calling them suckers, they will hide their true feelings from you, just like the other poster's "good friend" did, and all we'll have are pissing matches. Lol.
I's important to remember that!
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1750174]You won't believe how many guys are pussy whipped! a lot of WU suckers don't talk about it on how much money they send, but the chicas talk. I know one of my good friends that only goes to DR maybe 2 time a year and he meet a girl and he started sending money about ($150-$300) a month, but he never told me about because he know I will put him on blast, but some guys got Big Egos, and when you try to school them, they think your jealous, or hating! But these chicas behind your back laugh and its like a badge of honor to have a WU Gringo. They love to brag to there friends about how many gringos they have sending them money and they laugh because in a 3rd world country like Sosua, What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.[/QUOTE]You know "who your real friends are" only if they are honest with you.
Like your "good friend" above, he never told you anything about what he was doing. LOL.
It's his money, what's your problem?
There's only one thing worse than a Captain Save a Hoe, and that's a "Captain Save a Monger", and this board is full of 'em, LOL.
[QUOTE=AthTrainer;1750307]I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.[/QUOTE]The area right around Rumbas is where most of the action is, day or night.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1750446]You know "who your real friends are" only if they are honest with you.
It's his money, what's your problem?
There's only one thing worse than a Captain Save a Hoe, and that's a "Captain Save a Monger", and this board is full of 'em, LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm tired of guys saying that its his money? Yeah its his money but he is fucking up the game and spoiling these chicas! There is a reason why when you go to Sousa, Most of these girls now are asking for $3,000-$4,000 pesos and you can hardly get GFE. Why do you think american women are so spoiled and entitled? Its the captain save a hoe thirsty men, most American males are pussy whipped and grow up in single mother households so they are taught to put women on a pedestal. They think if they do all this extra shit like overpaying girls and sending money, that they are going to get browie points with the chicas and all it does is make these chicas more wiser and feel like I don't have to work hard. I'm not a hater and everybody can do what they want with there money, but if you look back, If you went to Sosua in 2005, It was less tourist and the chicas were making way less money, But the service was amazing and way better, GFE. You damn had to kick a chica out because she did not want to leave. Fast forward to 2015. Chicas are making way more money and have tons of WU Sponsers, and now you can forget GFE, and most of these chicas don't even put there full effort like they use too. Giving these chicas the world has not made any difference, Just more hardcore and lazy. No different from a chick collecting welfare and section 8 she feels entitled and she does not have to work hard, because she got Uncle Sam / Tax Payer.
[QUOTE=Phreeman69;1750308]I wanted an all night session for my last night in town, so I arranged to have my best GFE of the week over. I told her early in the evening that I would give her 3000 pesos in the morning. From evening to morning we alternated from bed to dinner to walking on the beach to drinking. It was great.
At one point she mentioned that she needed 5000 pesos for rent. I said no, 3000 is more than reasonable. I should have paid more attention then. I should have asked her then if she would be happy with 3000, or if it would be better to leave now with 1500 or 2000 for the evening, as opposed to TLN--and forced her to really make a choice and agree.
Most importantly, I told her I was flying out in the morning. I had this romantic notion that she would appreciate that I picked her for my last session. Wrong.
Instead, in the morning she says she really needs the rent money. She won't take my 3000, she's going to tear it up, etc. It wasn't too ugly, and I didn't get bent out of shape, but I gave her another 1000 and she split. It's nice to be somewhere that twenty bucks can make a problem go away. Still, it took the after-glow off our time together.
I'm sure if she thought I would still be around and calling for another session she wouldn't have gotten pushy with me. Better not to tell them when you're leaving.
(FYI. Yolande, Haitian spinner, 31 years old but looks great. Recommended, but obviously be smart.).[/QUOTE]Great post Pman, and honest.
It's a typical problem for mongers in Sosua, and you handled it well.
Know when to fold 'em!
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1750174] What kind of man pays a girl every month to be there girlfriend? Anybody with a little street smarts will know that if a girl truly likes you and wants to be your girlfriend, you don't have to send her anything, especially every month like that, just like friendship, anybody will be your friend when they can get something from you, but you know who your real friends are when your broke and down on your luck. Just like these chicas, you will really know how they feel about you when they cannot get something from you!.[/QUOTE]If you are 50 and she is 20, it is nave to think that she is having a sexual relationship with you just out of feelings of spontaneous love, friendship, and sexual attraction. There is ALWAYS some kind of quid pro quo. However it is reasonable to think that if men are sending money to women, then the men are getting something they want too. If you take the time to read the boards for some of the other countries on International Sex Guide most of it is really depressing, and you will see how rare it is for men to have something that more or less approximates to an ongoing friendship or relationship with a woman in another country, as opposed to just paying a girl in a brothel for suck and fuck.
You say that men cannot find relationships in Sosua, but if you go to one of the local schools for example on an open day, you will see evidence of numerous mixed families in the area that seem to be very happy and loving families with small children who are well cared for.
Just last week I heard some terrible sad news about an absolutely beautiful Haitian girl aged 23. A couple of years ago she married a Dutchman in Puerto Plata. I was at the wedding. A few months later she went to live in the Netherlands where she had a child who is now two years old. Last Friday she died from septicaemia in childbirth in Holland, and the new baby died too. The funeral is on Saturday. Her family is distraught, her husband is devastated and is left alone with a motherless two-year-old child that his own mother is now caring for.
You see relationships can and do happen, and they do mean a lot to the participants.
You may not think this is a good idea, and maybe it is not, and they don't always have a happy ending, but you cannot babysit people and tell them what they can and can't do. They have to decide for themselves.
[QUOTE=AthTrainer;1750307]I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.[/QUOTE]There is no particular place.
There are a lot more girls out at night, and they are probably going to be more dressed up and attractive looking and on the hunt. You would do better to talk to girls at night and arrange to meet them in the daytime the next day. They might not want to do that, but in the end they will agree if you stick to your guns.
Of course there are lots of ordinary looking girls around working in every day jobs in stores and offices and restaurants and bars, and they might be available for dates, although it could be quite a bit of work figuring out if they are, but when they come out again at night all dressed up and looking all glamorous and completely different, then it is much more obvious that they are available to you.
However a lot of the most attractive girls who come out at night will be sleeping late in the daytime, and then doing laundry and going to the salon during the afternoon, taking care of children, and so on, so not so easy to make dates with at those times.
[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1750174]You won't believe how many guys are pussy whipped! a lot of WU suckers don't talk about it on how much money they send, but the chicas talk. I know one of my good friends that only goes to DR maybe 2 time a year and he meet a girl and he started sending money about ($150-$300) a month, but he never told me about because he know I will put him on blast, but some guys got Big Egos, and when you try to school them, they think your jealous, or hating! ![/QUOTE]Well your friend did not tell you about this, because he knows about your agenda and knows that you like to tell other people what to do and ridicule them if you do not agree with them, and act like they are pupils and you are the schoolmaster.
However he is an adult and he is having a one-on-one relationship with an adult woman. Let him make his own mistakes. That way he will learn from experience and the learning will mean something to him, and if it doesn't work out for him, he will probably try something different in the future.
WU novio talk again. Guys, let me remind everyone that this is a thread about mongering in Sosua. Can we get back to writing about Brazilian women? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1750611]WU novio talk again. Guys, let me remind everyone that this is a thread about mongering in Sosua. Can we get back to writing about Brazilian women? Thanks.[/QUOTE]So what's stopping you, Einstein?
Cat got your tongue?
Lol