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[QUOTE=Enphl;2866595]I last visited Frankfurt nearly 10 yrs ago. My first FKK experience, I went to Mainhattan and Sharks. But have visited other German cities FKKs over the years. I remember there was a time where BBBJ was hard to find. I visited stuttgart (sakura) last year and had no trouble getting BBBJCIM. I recall the rate was 100/30 I think. When they ask what I want, I usually just say BBBJCIM and they either say yes or no and give a price. Usually everyone gives the same price.

This year, I plan to visit Dusseldorf / Cologne around Dec 10-12 timeframe. Then I had planned to take the train directly to the frankfurt airport to go home. However, reading some reviews of FKKs in Dusseldorf / Cologne, they scared me a bit. Very negative. Talk of girls "agreeing" before, then during the session trying to upsell. I've never encountered this (in the 10 times I've visited an FKK). Was this just an isolated incident or the usual service is at FKK's in Dusseldorf / Cologne.

I'm considering going to Frankfurt to stay a night and visiting an FKK there instead. Is the service better there? How about the girls? If I recall, Sharks was best but its a bit out of the way. I've been to Mainhattan. Never tried Palace or Oase. I recall reading Oase can be aggressive. I don't like girls coming every 5 seconds especially after I just saw a girl. I also don't like it when the girls don't come over at all and seem to just goto an FKK and hang out.

I'm getting older and can probably only see one or two girls. I think the cute young slender type of girl. However, it's more important for the girl to give good service (ie. Good attitude, energetic, not just lay there). BBBJ is a must. CIM is preferred as an option because I sometimes have trouble finishing the usual way. Also, I typically will want to visit in the afternoon and not at night. Ideally somewhere accessible by train/bus.

Based on this, I'd appreciate any recommendations? Stick to Dusseldorf / Cologne? Got to Frankfurt? If so, which FKK?[/QUOTE]BBBJ with CIM should be 150/30 . 110 at Babylon Elsdorf around Koln.

[QUOTE=Enphl;2866595]I last visited Frankfurt nearly 10 yrs ago. My first FKK experience, I went to Mainhattan and Sharks. But have visited other German cities FKKs over the years.
I'm considering going to Frankfurt to stay a night and visiting an FKK there instead. Is the service better there? How about the girls? If I recall, Sharks was best but its a bit out of the way. I've been to Mainhattan. Never tried Palace or Oase. I recall reading Oase can be aggressive. I don't like girls coming every 5 seconds especially after I just saw a girl. I also don't like it when the girls don't come over at all and seem to just goto an FKK and hang out.

I'm getting older and can probably only see one or two girls. I think the cute young slender type of girl. However, it's more important for the girl to give good service (ie. Good attitude, energetic, not just lay there). BBBJ is a must. CIM is preferred as an option because I sometimes have trouble finishing the usual way. Also, I typically will want to visit in the afternoon and not at night. Ideally somewhere accessible by train/bus.

Based on this, I'd appreciate any recommendations? Stick to Dusseldorf / Cologne? Got to Frankfurt? If so, which FKK?[/QUOTE]I am sure there are others who have greater experience than me but I've been attending FKKs for also 10 years but have done so two or three times (sometimes more) every year. I suspect I've been to something like 30 FKKs all over Germany from as far south as Munich, up as north as Hamburg and from Dresden to Frankfurt and of course through NRW.

What that has taught me is that it is just not possible to say "Frankfurt is better than NRW" or vice versa. I've been to Sharks and thought it was the best club in Germany. I've also been to Sharks 6 months later and left with no session thinking the girls were all fat and ugly. It's really hard to generalise. I've gone out of my way to visit clubs that are not that easy to get to (Atmos Hamburg), or Sakura Boblingen. Because my last sessions there were amazing. Only to find that the girls I sessioned with have gone and the current line ups are disappointing.

I think what I've come to realise is that part of the adventure is the discovery and not to get too hung up on it. I love reading current reports on this forum which rank the clubs based on line up at the current time. That's your best guide. But even then. As they say. One mans trash is another's treasure. I've relied on reports saying a line up is amazing and have arrived to find it awful. And vice versa.

Generally Sharks will always have some girls you'll like due to sheer numbers.

Oase is no more aggressive than any other club in my opinion. Indeed, I would say it is less so than Sharks!

You will find plenty of girls willing to do CIM for the extra 50. It does mean though that you'll be paying 250 for an hour in most of the clubs now.

That's a lot compared to prices even 5 years ago but then we cannot expect the girls never to increase when the cost of living globally increases.

I like the NRW clubs. Oceans gets panned on ISG but I like the club and have had great nights there. I hated Living Room due to the cancer inducing smoking main lounge.

I like Samya Cologne. Always loved its party atmosphere and loved it most when it was 50/30 then 25/30 after that! Amazing.

I love the outdoors at World but the club has deteriorated.

As you are older you might like Palace. Centrally located, clean, no outdoors (but its winter now), and the girls a little bit older (late 20's /30's).

I had one year when Mainhattan was my favourite due to the line up. My last 2 visits I've left with no session and taken a cab to Palace!

Summary. It's hit and miss. If you only have one night, I'the head to Sharks or Palace in FRA.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2866699]I am sure there are others who have greater experience than me but I've been attending FKKs for also 10 years but have done so two or three times (sometimes more) every year. I suspect I've been to something like 30 FKKs all over Germany from as far south as Munich, up as north as Hamburg and from Dresden to Frankfurt and of course through NRW. What that has taught me is that it is just not possible to say "Frankfurt is better than NRW" or vice versa. [/QUOTE]Although I can understand where you're coming from, I have a very strong preference for Frankfurt, Hamburg, and Berlin over the NRW. So much so that the next time I go to Germany (planning a month-long romp), I will be mostly skipping the NRW altogether (will try a few clubs around Dusseldorf). The clubs typically are much bigger in parts of Germany outside of the NRW, and that makes them more comfortable, especially if you plan to hang out for a long time. Also, being an "anal connoisseur", over the years I've found that easier to obtain in parts other than the NRW. Maybe the fact that anal was traditionally significantly cheaper in the NRW was a disincentive for the girls to offer it at all. I don't know. But in conclusion, depending on what's important to you, I think it is very possible to say "Frankfurt is better than NRW" or vice versa. And I say that for me, Frankfurt is [B]way better[/B] than the NRW. So much so, that I have no plans to return to the latter. Carry on!

Thanks for the tips.

Quick question, what is "NRW"?

Since I can basically only manage to see one or two girls and even then I need at least an hour or two in between. I actually don't care about the party atmosphere. I actually prefer where you can pick out a girl and see her without wasting any time. I went to a brothel in Berlin once and had a bad experience. Only 2 girls available, asked to come back in an hour for more, I did that but only found one acceptable. None would do CIM and the girl I saw was pretty lazy. Plus it cost more. Actually my new favorite is Barcelona. You can browse girls online. Lots of young attractive ones.

Photos are mostly accurate. Reviews are actually accurate and not completely made up. Easy to setup, no time wasting. The girls I've seen have all be very good and the price is not bad. Ofcourse, like you say, I'm generalizing with all of this.

Anyways, since I'll be in Germany I feel like I should goto an FKK. I do agree, having a sufficient number of girls is important, especially when I like to visit during the day (early afternoon).

I've found that many times, the youngest hottest girls have a bad attitude or are just lazy. I guess they must get alot of business so they don't feel they need to try as hard. Not always though.

You mention BBBJCIM might cost 250/60, how about for 30? I remember last year in sakura, I was able to get 100/30 (with CIM) from most girls. Has the price gone up that much in a year?

My recent tour of Frankfurt comprised:

4 nights.

3 clubs.

9 sessions.

11 girls.

E1650 spent on girls (would have cost E900 in the old days).

3 were fantastic sessions.

4 decent to good.

2 were poor.

So not an atypical success rate.

A few musings:

Pricing: the new reality is 100/30 and either 150/60 or 200/60 in Sharks and Oase. 200/60 is reality across the board in Palace. At Sharks and Oase, most of the younger, more attractive girls are going to expect 200/60 and logically speaking if someone is willing to pay 100/30 why wouldn't they pay twice as much for twice as much fun? A price increase was overdue but 80/30 and 150/60 would have been more logical but ain't going to change.

A few girls I liked at Sharks and who I was happy to pay E200 ph were giving me the cold shoulder as I think I got a reputation for having a 150 limit (based on a threesome I was trying to put together). It was ironic as I was happy to drop a grand each night on girls if I was blown away and the vibe and stars aligned. The last big blowout I had was in London when I had a 30 minute 5 girl orgy for £400 and I was up for something similar (and have had 4 girl sessions at FKKs twice in the past) but no such craziness this time.

Quality and quantity of line ups: It was as per pre Covid (except for Oase which seems to be in a slump). Quality of service was generally the same meaning after the deed was done, some girls would consider the session over whereas the better ones (who get a repeat) engage in post coital bliss, give a massage or let you decide when it's time to leave the room. If a club can encourage its girls to provide full time allocated similar to Globe in Zurich does, it would give it a competitive edge.

Diversity of line ups: Still predominantly Romanian. I would have thought or hoped the increase in prices would have attracted more girls from other countries such as Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary etc and local girls. Maybe it will take time but would be fantastic if it ever happened. The game changer will be if Ukraine joins the EU. Ukrainian girls aren't shy of going on the game and in my experience, judging on looks and raunch factor they're my favourites along with Brazilians and Uzbeks.

Men: I did think there were fewer customers than in the old days. Still a reasonable amount but numbers seemed down. Perhaps down to pricing? Especially given there were loads of American tourists for the NFL. Was amusing that 2 American guys left sharks shortly after arriving and explained they thought they were visiting a strip club which was their preference and asked where they could find one. You'the think they would appreciate hitting the jackpot!

Seemed to be fewer younger customers and talking to some German bloke he said a lot of Germans now went to other clubs outside Frankfurt such as NRW where prices are still at a lower level.

Oase: Sharks was easily the best club in terms of quality and numbers. But how does it attract a much better cast than say Oase? Oase is more comfortable, nearer to Frankfurt, has better facilities and in the summer the garden is much bigger. Perhaps better food though I like the pizzas? Friendlier staff?

A lot is about vibe. I'm not big into music but the music seems to be better in Sharks than the other clubs and it felt uplifting when they played a set from the 90's. Given most of their customers are in their 40's and 50's, music from their younger days would be more popular.

In the past, girls are other clubs have said they don't fancy Oase as they consider the rooms to be dirty. Perhaps they need a revamp but hope they do have a revival by the summer as lounging in their gardens on a long summers day is one of life's pleasures.

Frankfurt: stayed near the HBF. It's always been a shithole but has deteriorated- full of drug addicts and pushers, alcoholics. Beggars, stinks of piss, streets have human faeces. May sound ironic that a sex tourist is complaining about an area being seedy but I imagine this is what Soho or Kings Cross in London or Times Square in New York were like in the 70's and 80's.

The contrast to the RLD in Amsterdam is striking. A few years ago I thought it would be a good investment to buy a flat around there before it got gentrified but I think I dodged a bullet.

FKK future plans: As I thought would be the case, I can only manage 2 shots a day (was the same last year when I went to Zurich for two days last year). In the old days, I would typically start a FKK tour with 4 shots on day 1 and a solid 3 shots a day after. I suppose I should lose some weight, improve my diet and take my vitamins (I hear iron and magnesium tablets help) but assuming I don't regain old glories, I can't see myself making purpose built tours to Frankfurt.

I love the Frankfurt FKKs too much to give up entirely but in the future, as with this trip, I think I will restrict it to being a stopover destination between Dubai and London so I don't pay any extra for airfares. Otherwise it doesn't make much financial sense. For me a 4 day tour is the optimum length as I can visit my three favourite clubs and on the 4th repeat the one I enjoyed the most.

A return flight costs around E800, daily costs for hotels, cabs, club entry, meals, massage etc of around E300 and assuming E500 per day on girls comes to E4000 or E1000 per day. Without additional flight cost it's E800 per day which is more palatable but still an expensive day.

At E200 per hour for a stunner (and it's no point going all the way to Frankfurt for two 30 min sessions), I could stop over at say Prague, Budapest or Vienna which are all prettier and nicer places to visit and I'm sure I could find a stunning escort for an hour at that price (and I appreciate Vienna has its own FKK scene). Even in Dubai, you would spend between E200 upto E375 for an hour with a comparable girl if you have an incall.

But I love the FKK scene and having 70+ naked ladies to choose from too much to apply financial logic and give up all together. I've been to Frankfurt 21 times now and am looking forward to my next trip. Hopefully in the summer so I can enjoy the outdoor lounging between sessions.

[QUOTE=Enphl;2866745]Thanks for the tips.

Quick question, what is "NRW"?

Since I can basically only manage to see one or two girls and even then I need at least an hour or two in between. I actually don't care about the party atmosphere. I actually prefer where you can pick out a girl and see her without wasting any time. I went to a brothel in Berlin once and had a bad experience. Only 2 girls available, asked to come back in an hour for more, I did that but only found one acceptable. None would do CIM and the girl I saw was pretty lazy. Plus it cost more. Actually my new favorite is Barcelona. You can browse girls online. Lots of young attractive ones.

Photos are mostly accurate. Reviews are actually accurate and not completely made up. Easy to setup, no time wasting. The girls I've seen have all be very good and the price is not bad. Ofcourse, like you say, I'm generalizing with all of this.

Anyways, since I'll be in Germany I feel like I should goto an FKK. I do agree, having a sufficient number of girls is important, especially when I like to visit during the day (early afternoon).

I've found that many times, the youngest hottest girls have a bad attitude or are just lazy. I guess they must get alot of business so they don't feel they need to try as hard. Not always though.

You mention BBBJCIM might cost 250/60, how about for 30? I remember last year in sakura, I was able to get 100/30 (with CIM) from most girls. Has the price gone up that much in a year?[/QUOTE]NRW stands for North Rhine-Westphalia or North-Rhine / Westphalia (German: Nordrhein-Westfalen).

What I notice since 2022 , when not in 2021 , is level of most Romanians is really falling for quality, when more expensive. Sharks is now for me to find Germans, I failed on Saturday. Girls are also less smart and elegant, nevertheless, I know can still find few good ones. I drive for this and also for autobahns, looking forward testing increased power Venus8 .

It has been a really long time since I've had an electrifying, body-numbing, toe-curling blowjob from anyone, FKK or not. Has someone had the blessing to get one of those life-changing blowjob from a working girl in FKK? I'd really like to meet her.

Have a good one.

[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2868868]It has been a really long time since I've had an electrifying, body-numbing, toe-curling blowjob from anyone, FKK or not. Has someone had the blessing to get one of those life-changing blowjob from a working girl in FKK? I'd really like to meet her.

Have a good one.[/QUOTE]What constitutes a good BJ for others may not be the case for you. These sort of questions about quality of girls and services are very subjective.

[QUOTE=Abox79;2868969]What constitutes a good BJ for others may not be the case for you. These sort of questions about quality of girls and services are very subjective.[/QUOTE]Yes it is definitely a subjective question because any kind of review is subjective. Completely objective review on sex service does not exist or, worse, is useless. The purpose of the forum is to facilitate the exchange of personal views on service providers and venues, would you agree?

In any case, let me rephrase the question: what is the most memorable blowjob you've ever received in the FKK land?

[QUOTE=YodaXxx;2868868]It has been a really long time since I've had an electrifying, body-numbing, toe-curling blowjob from anyone, FKK or not. Has someone had the blessing to get one of those life-changing blowjob from a working girl in FKK? I'd really like to meet her. Have a good one.[/QUOTE]Simply one of the best! But no clue if she's still working these days.

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And for me [B]the best ever[/B] BBBJ / CIM in my entire life was had a Globe in Zurich!

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I am travelling to Germany shortly and was planning to visit an FKK in Munich or Frankfurt. This time, I thought I will take my wife along. She may just lounge around, or may join me with a girl or (who knows) want a 1-1 with a girl. Don't think she will want to go with any other male guest.

Do FKKs allow female guests. Are the entrance charges same as for men? And what is allowed- from hunting male guests to joining my in a a threesome to 1-1 lesbian sex. I understand a lot would depend on the girls, but wanted to know if there are any general club rules and don't s.

[QUOTE=Abox79;2868969]What constitutes a good BJ for others may not be the case for you. These sort of questions about quality of girls and services are very subjective.[/QUOTE]It is probably something you can ask for as well. For example if you are getting a happy ending after a masssge you can tell someone how you want it. My thought is the tantric part of it makes it more intense. I am sure there are blow job techniques but it is quantifiable and not totally mysterious.

[QUOTE=PuneRomper;2869168]I am travelling to Germany shortly and was planning to visit an FKK in Munich or Frankfurt. This time, I thought I will take my wife along. She may just lounge around, or may join me with a girl or (who knows) want a 1-1 with a girl. Don't think she will want to go with any other male guest.

Do FKKs allow female guests. Are the entrance charges same as for men? And what is allowed- from hunting male guests to joining my in a a threesome to 1-1 lesbian sex. I understand a lot would depend on the girls, but wanted to know if there are any general club rules and don't s.[/QUOTE]I have seen couples in Sharks, World and Oase so it is possible. The female guest is treated just like a male guest. She pays entry, and may have sex with one or more girls. You can have a treesome with a girl but your female partner may NOT have sex with another male visitor.

[QUOTE=Mechelen;2869404]I have seen couples in Sharks, World and Oase so it is possible. The female guest is treated just like a male guest. She pays entry, and may have sex with one or more girls. You can have a treesome with a girl but your female partner may NOT have sex with another male visitor.[/QUOTE]Not anymore allowed at Sharks.