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[QUOTE=AthTrainer;1750307]I'll be heading to Sosua next week. First time jn 2 years. I was wondering where's the best place, right now, to find girls during the day? Where's a good spot on the beach, if any? Thanks. Will report on my trip.[/QUOTE]If you speak some spanish and aren't afraid to approach girls just go to playa Sosua pull up a chair, have a few beers (and some patience) at one of the many places and watch the parade, be careful to not insult any girls walking with family. Don't sit on the beach sit up close to the shops. Plenty to be had at the beach.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1750735]The Sosua chicas today have the world at their fingertips through the Internet. They know that just about anywhere else in the world, the price for what they offer is at least double. So they are a lot less willing to give you GFE when you think they should only get paid at 2005 rates.[/QUOTE]Surely you jest. When have you ever seen a Dominican (nevermind Sosua puta) on the internet researching ANYTHING? They all think the internet is only for chatting. Chat to any Dominicana and take too long to answer and the response you will get is "Who else are you chatting with?" As if there were not 1 million other things to do while on the internet. And they definitely are not researching hooker prices around the world.
Case in point: I was in a pickup club in Thailand the night before last and spotted a Colombian chica. Definitely not my first time seeing or talking to one in the discos here. I went over to talk to her. Turns out she was from Medellin. I asked her about her prices. Do you know this chick told me $86 for 1 hour? (To put this in perspective, I gave the girl that I took home $28 for the entire night.) I laughed and told her that she knew good and well that I could get 100 just like her in Medellin for $12. After that, she turned up her nose and gave me the cold shoulder. What would even make her think she could get porterhouse steak prices in a discount meat warehouse? Was she researching on the internet what hookers are getting in England and decided that is how much she should be getting in Thailand? I seriously doubt it. More likely she said to herself let me see if I can find any suckers.
I will say it. They are hookers and you give them too much credit. Now I am not saying they are not people and are worth any less than any other person on the planet. What I am saying is that they are not among the most brightest crayons in the box. When is the last time that you ran into a scholarly hooker? So this crap about hookers doing due diligence should be flushed down the toilet.
It is the mongers who are driving the prices. Just read some of the posts. Guys constantly compare to back home. Well it would cost me x back home, so anything under x is a great price for me. Then if you try to tell them that it shouldn't cost that much on the local market they get very defensive and pull out the "Don't try to tell me how to spend my money" cliche. And if you think that word does not spread like wildfire then you sir are dead wrong.
Once me and my dad took some chicks from the club in Thailand. These chicks were friends. Now I don't know what got into me that time, but the next morning I decided to give my girl $42, which was 50% more than the normal $28. When the girls left and me and my dad joined back up he asked me how much I gave my girl. I said $42. He said now why in the hell would you do that? She called and told her friend that she got $42 from you, so her friend wanted $42 from me. He stuck to his guns and only gave her the normal $28 though.
A lot of guys are thinking it is only a $14 difference. There is a reason that businesses do certain calculations not on price differences, but instead on percentage differences. No. You did not pay $20 to make that problem go away. You in fact paid 33% more to make it go away - which is highway robbery. If the bank notified you tomorrow that your mortgage or car note would immediately increase by 33% then you would have a shit fit. But when a chica tells you the price of the pussy you just had has instantly increased 66%, but you negotiate that down to 33% then it is all good?
Like Chaka Khan said, once you get started it is hard to stop. Think if your boss gave you a 50% increase on your next paycheck. Will you look at it as a one-off thing or will you get the big head and begin to think yeah I deserve more than the paychecks I was getting before and from then on refuse to accept less? Well some of these chicas are resorting to trickery, threats, and extortion because they "deserve" the new paychecks that a couple of one-off mongers bestowed upon them and not the old ones like they originally negotiated for with the present monger just 3 hours ago. And the present mongers are giving in.
My last bone to pick is since when does GFE correlate with the price you pay? You are just as likely to get GFE paying $5 as you are paying $500. Hell the $5 chica will probably put something on you to make sure you want to give her a little extra. While the $500 chica will be trying to do a rush job so she can hurry up and get out of there with your money before you change your mind.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1751065]
Case in point: I was in a pickup club in Thailand the night before last and spotted a Colombian chica. Definitely not my first time seeing or talking to one in the discos here.
.[/QUOTE]Wow is there a lot of colombians in thailand working? Besides colombian, did you see any other races there?
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My last bone to pick is since when does GFE correlate with the price you pay? You are just as likely to get GFE paying $5 as you are paying $500. Hell the $5 chica will probably put something on you to make sure you want to give her a little extra. While the $500 chica will be trying to do a rush job so she can hurry up and get out of there with your money before you change your mind.[/QUOTE]So newbies, listen carefully. This is advice from a guy who claims to get it for free from real girl friends all over the world, DR, Thailand, Columbia, Brazil, St Tropaz, you name it. LOL. (These also happen to be the world's brothels)
We poor mongers who have to pay, should listen carefully. Apparently in some alternate universe for 5 bucks you can get better than a $500.00 hooker.
Ah, if we could only be Mr E.!!
How fortunate we are for him to take a time out from his normal relationships to help us with our P4P.
LOL.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1751094]So newbies, listen carefully. This is advice from a guy who claims to get it free from real girl friends all over the world, DR, Thailand, Columbia, Brazil, St Tropaz, you name it. LOL. (These also happen to be the world's brothels)[/QUOTE]Don't hate on me because you are scared of pussy that you do not have to pay. (It's ColOmbia and St. TropEz (never been there but I did study 5 hours away in Toulouse) by the way.).
Everywhere on earth there are hookers as well as women who are not hookers. In some places it is more "in your face" than in others. Besides that nothing is different between what you call the world's brothels and main street whatever country.
A couple of weeks ago my main girl home in Atlanta (who is Indian and has been in the States for 4 years) was saying when she goes back to visit India she is going to make a side trip to Thailand to do some shopping. She asked prostitution is very big there huh? I said baby prostitution is big everywhere. You just have to know where to look. Then I did something most of you are scared to do (hell, half of you are scared to tell a hooker that you are staying in Sosua). I pulled out my cell phone and went to backpage Atlanta to show her just how many women from all different walks of life and all different parts of the city were selling pussy. There were chicks from $50 to $700. Then I switched to India to show her how many women there.
So newbies listen carefully while Uncle Oakie teaches you to be a Western Union sucker. Uhhh I mean novio. Wait a minute. Or was this not the guy who sent the girl all of the money so she could come see him in Canada, but she ended up using said money to go elsewhere? Can't get any smarter than to send your hard earned money to some hooker that has another guy's dick in her mouth. Meanwhile you have kids or relatives who are struggling with their university tuition or rent or whatever. Before you send money to a hooker that only cares about you as far as your money will allow her, be sure that the 1000 relatives and real friends you have are in need of nothing.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1751098]So newbies listen carefully while Uncle Oakie teaches you to be a Western Union sucker. Uhhh I mean novio. Can't get any smarter than to send your hard earned money to some hooker that has another guy's dick in her mouth. Meanwhile you have kids or relatives who are struggling with their university tuition or rent or whatever. Before you send money to a hooker that only cares about you as far as your money will allow her, be sure that the 1000 relatives and real friends you have are in need of nothing.[/QUOTE]By my count you are in some 5 continents, getting your pussy for free.
I can only assume you've taken care of all your relatives and friends before you spend those big bucks on "free" pussy in those brothel towns in 5 continents.
That don't come cheap.
Sosua, Colombia, Rio, and Bangkok, and you're supposed to get pussy for free, really? And you argue with us over prices for pussy? How come you know the prices better that anyone here? LOL.
But we believe you. Honestly.
Wish we had your "intel", "connections" and smarts!
(On the other hand you demonstrably spend far more on your pussy "hunting" in a month, with all that world travel and hotels, than I would in two years, LOL).
Me. I actually spend far less for Sosua pussy than it costs me to take a real girlfriend out to dinner and a movie, once a month. I posted the actual budget here, years ago!
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1751101]Sosua, Colombia, Rio, and Bangkok, and you're supposed to get pussy for free, really? And you argue with us over prices for pussy? How come you know the prices better that anyone here? LOL[/QUOTE]How do I know the prices better than anyone here? I guess your reading comprehension is not as strong as your propensity to be a Western Union novio. I have always admitted that I monger as well as have normal chicks. (MF the same as I have a car, and a motorcycle, and a pair of rollerblades, and a bus pass - since when must a person be forced to partake in only one form of transportation? The same as he shouldn't be relegated to take to only one form of getting pussy.)
As a matter of fact, 2 of my posts down I gave account to that. Show me any post of mine where I have stated otherwise. You must have missed the whole thing while trying to multitask on the WU website.[QUOTE=Oakie;1751101](On the other hand you demonstrably spend far more on your pussy "hunting" in a month, with all that world travel and hotels, than I would in two years, LOL).[/QUOTE]And when did I ever say that I was out spending money to hunt for pussy? Maybe I am out for other endeavors and being able to hunt for pussy is just the fall out or by-product of that. Don't get it twisted. Just because a person writes on a monger board that they fucked some chicks in a particular destination, does not mean their sole purpose for being in that destination was to hunt for pussy. (Unlike you who has to take vacation in a third world country just to be able to smell pussy.)
I went scuba diving in Palau and just so happened to end up fucking some chick that worked at the national museum that I met while touring the place. But by your logic I went all the way to Palau to look for chicks to fuck.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1751104]How do I know the prices better than anyone here? I guess your reading comprehension is not as strong as your propensity to be a Western Union novio. I have always admitted that I monger as well as have normal chicks. (MF the same as I have a car, and a motorcycle, and a pair of rollerblades - since when must a person be forced to partake in only one form of transportation? The same as he shouldn't be relegated to take to only one form of getting pussy.)
As a matter of fact, 2 of my posts down I gave account to that. Show me any post of mine where I have stated otherwise. You must have missed the whole thing while trying to multitask on the WU website.And when did I ever say that I was out spending money to hunt for pussy? Maybe I am out for other endeavors and being able to hunt for pussy is just the fall out or by-product of that. Don't get it twisted. Just because a person writes on a monger board that they fucked some chicks in a particular destination, does not mean their sole purpose for being in that destination was to hunt for pussy. I went scuba diving in Palau and just so happened to end up fucking some chick that worked at the national museum that I met while touring the place. But by your logic I went all the way to Palau to look for chicks to fuck.[/QUOTE]So, how much time and how many posts did you do on the "Palua Scuba Website" LOL.
Do you find it easier to find free pussy in your brothel towns, Rio, Bankok, Sosua, Colombia, or is that just coincidence? Or maybe you like the food there? Lol
Do you ever run into my ex there? ...er the young Morgan Fairchild, yeah, that's the ticket!
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From a psychoanalytical approach it would appear that an individual who has close to 5000 posts on a board who in almost all of the posts boasts about getting free pussy simultaneously all over the world is likely to be (a hermaphrodite?) holed up in a basement somewhere living life through an internet connection getting thrills from a mistaken belief that readers believe the stories.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1751143]From a psychoanalytical approach it would appear that an individual who has close to 5000 posts on a board who in almost all of the posts boasts about getting free pussy simultaneously all over the world is likely to be (a hermaphrodite?) holed up in a basement somewhere living life through an internet connection getting thrills from a mistaken belief that readers believe the stories.[/QUOTE]Maybe so, but then when you account for the fact that I do post actual field reports (unlike you - have you ever posted even 1 or is it sufficient to use those of other posters in your spank bank troll?) and have met many members from this thread as well as others, then whoever comes to such a conclusion from whatever approach, psychoanalytical or otherwise, needs to go back to where they got their degree and ask for refund.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1751065]Surely you jest. When have you ever seen a Dominican (nevermind Sosua puta) on the internet researching ANYTHING? They all think the internet is only for chatting. Chat to any Dominicana and take too long to answer and the response you will get is "Who else are you chatting with?" As if there were not 1 million other things to do while on the internet. And they definitely are not researching hooker prices around the world. [/QUOTE]I can understand why you picked Mr Enternational instead of Mr Einstein.
Imagine a possibility, the possibility that at least 1 chica in Sosua has a friend or relative living in the US. Now imagine that from time to time, they talk to that person. Do you think there is a chance she might learn a few things? Do you think she might be the least bit curious about things? Do you think she might share that knowledge?
While girls are with me, especially if I'm paying them, they aren't using their phone, so I can't say I've seen any of them researching anything.
[QUOTE]Case in point: I was in a pickup club in Thailand the night before last and spotted a Colombian chica. Definitely not my first time seeing or talking to one in the discos here. I went over to talk to her. Turns out she was from Medellin. I asked her about her prices. Do you know this chick told me $86 for 1 hour? (To put this in perspective, I gave the girl that I took home $28 for the entire night.) I laughed and told her that she knew good and well that I could get 100 just like her in Medellin for $12. After that, she turned up her nose and gave me the cold shoulder. What would even make her think she could get porterhouse steak prices in a discount meat warehouse? Was she researching on the internet what hookers are getting in England and decided that is how much she should be getting in Thailand? I seriously doubt it. More likely she said to herself let me see if I can find any suckers.[/QUOTE]Did you ever think, if a Colombian is in Thailand, perhaps she has been other places as well? Perhaps she's been someplace where her services are worth more. Perhaps she figured it was worth a try to get more. She just didn't realize she was talking to a prick who, instead of bartering with her, would ridicule her and treat her like garbage.
[QUOTE]I will say it. They are hookers and you give them too much credit. Now I am not saying they are not people and are worth any less than any other person on the planet. What I am saying is that they are not among the most brightest crayons in the box. When is the last time that you ran into a scholarly hooker? So this crap about hookers doing due diligence should be flushed down the toilet.[/QUOTE]No. You clearly just stated they are worth less than other people. You told her to her face she was worth less than $12.
Believe it or not, just because a woman in a third world country with a poor education system and a very high poverty level, chooses to support herself by prostitution, does not mean she is stupid. Once again you are stating they are less than other people.
I grew up in an all white, little redneck town and I was taught all blacks were stupid criminals. Then I got out into the world and I met some who were stupid and some who were criminals. I also met a lot more who were neither of those things and I learned not to judge or discriminate against groups. Haven't you learned that yet?
[QUOTE]It is the mongers who are driving the prices. Just read some of the posts. Guys constantly compare to back home. Well it would cost me x back home, so anything under x is a great price for me. Then if you try to tell them that it shouldn't cost that much on the local market they get very defensive and pull out the "Don't try to tell me how to spend my money" cliche. And if you think that word does not spread like wildfire then you sir are dead wrong.
Once me and my dad took some chicks from the club in Thailand. These chicks were friends. Now I don't know what got into me that time, but the next morning I decided to give my girl $42, which was 50% more than the normal $28. When the girls left and me and my dad joined back up he asked me how much I gave my girl. I said $42. He said now why in the hell would you do that? She called and told her friend that she got $42 from you, so her friend wanted $42 from me. He stuck to his guns and only gave her the normal $28 though...[/QUOTE]You might want to get someone else to handle your business dealings. If the base price is $28 and you pay $42, that is a 50% increase. However, if base price was $42 and you paid $28, that is a 33% discount.
And here you are complaining about people paying too much and driving up prices, when you're worse than most.
[QUOTE]Like Chaka Khan said, once you get started it is hard to stop. Think if your boss gave you a 50% increase on your next paycheck. Will you look at it as a one-off thing or will you get the big head and begin to think yeah I deserve more than the paychecks I was getting before and from then on refuse to accept less? Well some of these chicas are resorting to trickery, threats, and extortion because they "deserve" the new paychecks that a couple of one-off mongers bestowed upon them and not the old ones like they originally negotiated for with the present monger just 3 hours ago. And the present mongers are giving in.[/QUOTE]Were you under the influence of anything when you wrote this? I ask because you're not making much sense. You're rambling around but ignoring the basic premise, which is that prices for everything have gone up in the last 10 years. Expectations have also gone up. What was a hidden gem is now known worldwide. The chicas have higher expenses than the previous generation, so they expect more money. The chicas have more knowledge of the world around them, so they expect more money. The chicas have bigger dreams, so they expect more money.
Sure there are some who get overpaid and figure it's worth trying to get that again, and there are some who will do whatever they can to get more, but you're acting like they are the Teamsters. Listen up girls, nobody works for less than 3000. If we need to, we'll go on strike. Please. If the one you want won't come down to your price, pick another one and walk past her. It's not like there's a shortage.
[QUOTE]My last bone to pick is since when does GFE correlate with the price you pay? You are just as likely to get GFE paying $5 as you are paying $500. Hell the $5 chica will probably put something on you to make sure you want to give her a little extra. While the $500 chica will be trying to do a rush job so she can hurry up and get out of there with your money before you change your mind.[/QUOTE]Now you're just being ridiculous. I suppose there could be someplace in the world where a girl would be excited to get $5, but I prefer them to be 18 or older, rather than fresh out of kindergarten. While you are somewhat correct that GFE isn't directly tied to cost, what you pay, as compared to what was requested does have an impact. If a girl wants $50 and you belittle her and insult her into taking $10, you're probably not going to get her best effort. On the other hand, if you stop treating them like they are a lower class of person, you might be surprised.
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Newbie to DR Sosua
I am planning a trip to Sosua in August. I am in my 60's and in great shape.
Hotel recommendations with and without Chicas on site close to the action?
Transportation from airport?
Money exchange or not?
Any other do's and don't's?
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1751152]Maybe so, but then when you account for the fact that I do post actual field reports (unlike you - have you ever posted even 1 or is it sufficient to use those of other posters in your spank bank troll?) and have met many members from this thread as well as others, then whoever comes to such a conclusion from whatever approach, psychoanalytical or otherwise, needs to go back to where they got their degree and ask for refund.[/QUOTE]I have no doubt that at least in what it concerns DR, you actually are in country as you file your reports. However I was surprised as how sophomoric your last posting describing your comings and goings between AILA, SD Este, the Capital, and Bocachica sounded. Frantic is a word that comes to mind when reading about double bookings, your non-stop pace that conveyed a lack of serenity an experienced voyager is assumed to have. My opinion.
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[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1750671]I don't think so, last time I was there (January 2015 and in June 2015) A lot of the chicas and hotel owners told me business is extremely slow and when I stayed in New Gardens there were hardly any Gringos in town like how it use too see all the time.
Even hardcore Sosua Guys, That only goes to sosua and no where else, are branching out and visiting places like Costa Rica, Columbia and Argentina. I Guess with Passion Closed and Latino Discos closing, it kinda scared off some of the regular gringos. Classicos had a lot of chicas every night, but mostly trash, doesn't look like it attractive the stunnas from Santo Domingo and Santiago like how it use too back in the days. Because a lot of nights I would go home by myself. Alot of people will ask me why am I so picky, I have a right to be picky because its no free. If it was free, then you have a point. If I have to pay I have every right to be judgmental, plus the fact that most of these chicas are horrible in bed and are just trying to get you to leche so they can go back on the strip to fuck another gringo.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you just said.
I have a regular so it doesn't affect me as much, but I do like to get a free day or two before or after to look around. It is harder to find a good short timer compared to the past, which is why I stick with what I've got.
It's the fun of prospecting on the cheap, though, and there's always the possibility that you'll find a shiny nugget!
A lot of guys have mentioned moving out to other towns and other countries, and we are all interested in that. The NEXT Sosua.
Maybe they'll never be another one, (Cuba?) that has been so close, so good, and so cheap for so long!
Happy hunting.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1751163]I grew up in an all white, little redneck town......
.... On the other hand, if you stop treating them like they are a lower class of person, you might be surprised.[/QUOTE]Appreciated your introspecting considerations and for opening an window to your own life and thinking process.
Given that background of yours, I am wondering how common it was / is in this country, to go (horing) with your closest elders (same question for the Europeans on this board as they were growing up in the European countries)? Legalized brothels were removed from most EU countries by end of WWII while in the US, it is restricted to only a few states. Based on my reading, I understand that in South America (perhaps also in Mexico), it might still be customary for a father to take his son to an initiation ceremony but I wonder if there are class ramifications to such a comportment. As far as I am concerned, growing up in a third world country like India, where prostitution in all its forms abounds but never in the open, my father would have strangled me even for entertaining the idea in our lower middle class upbringing and I have a feeling that my 16 year old son would look at me with disbelief and perhaps disdain for even floating the idea.