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[QUOTE=Bravo]Thats the same girl i am talking about, she worked/works at B&W. She also had her own thread on hotside at one time. Maybe some of the americans who live in brasil can look on the brasilian sites and see some updates about her.[/QUOTE]The girl on hotside is has the same name but not the thunder bunda and thighs of the porn star. Maybe I', on the wrong hotside site.
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I think Luomo used to automatically discount R$10 when you sessioned with a girl on any day.
I know that they now discount R$30 (50% off) if you arrive before 7pm on any day of the week and session with a girl anytime during that stay. But I don't know if the R$10 discount above is still true.[/QUOTE]Thank you AS, I appreciate that.
[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I think Luomo used to automatically discount R$10 when you sessioned with a girl on any day.
I know that they now discount R$30 (50% off) if you arrive before 7pm on any day of the week and session with a girl anytime during that stay. But I don't know if the R$10 discount above is still true.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is still true. Their entry is 70, but down to 60 if you session. If you come in before 7 pm, it goes down to 30 with session and 35 without. (10R discount for a 240R transaction is a real joke, but oh well). One thing I found out this time: you can come in before 7, get the discount, stay a while, then leave and return later without paying another entrance fee.
[QUOTE=Euro100]Yes, this is still true. Their entry is 70, but down to 60 if you session. If you come in before 7 pm, it goes down to 30 with session and 35 without. (10R discount for a 240R transaction is a real joke, but oh well). One thing I found out this time: you can come in before 7, get the discount, stay a while, then leave and return later without paying another entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
That's cool that you can leave and come back later without paying the entry again. I remember your recent airport story - "I think I want to stay another day" and end up back at Luomo a few hours later. Ha.
Hi,
I just answered a PM by a new member, who I had chatted with in L'uomo on Friday. I replied, but it seems that the message bounced. So I am replying here, hoping that my answers are also a little bit interesting for others:
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I've passed at l'uomo three of my all time best five experiences. So I'm missing it big time... and the worst is that is not easy to me 'justify' another trip to Brazil in some years... is it possible to get in Europe an experience with Brazilians (or other) similar to Brazil?.
I would have loved to learn more from you on how to enjoy the girls outside the termes. I've never done that, but this time was necessary, mainly with Paola with who I had a terrific time. It's something I have to learn to do.
BTW given you're much more experienced than me, could you tell me what's the way of obtaining the most enjoyable experience with those girls?. Meeting with them outside of the club?. To be like boyfriends for some days?. Others?.
Many questions. Thanks. Looking forward to hearing from you. Best.
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Brazilians in Europe? Germany has the FKK places. They are very attractive alternatives. There is a whole section in this forum on them, and they are actually cheaper than L'uomo. The occasional South American girl is there, but the majority are from Germany and Eastern Europe.
Also, a lot of Brazilian girls travel to Spain and in particular Portugal. But I have not mongered there.
London has the Lady Marmalade Parties (also a separate section in this forum). On my only visit (very enjoyable!!!) 4 out of 5 girls were from Brazil. But this is real group sex and may not be your thing.
The kind of connection you can make with the girl in a terma like L'uomo is, however, unrivaled anywhere in Europe.
How do I get the girls to go with me after hours? First, I concentrate all evening on just one girls and do not try to sleep with more than one. I have to do a little pre-screening, because I want to know if they have a boyfriend (most don't, but if they do, then that's a deal beaker right there). Also, they need to speak at least a very small bit of English. Then I get them the drinks they want and make them feel special, commenting on their beauty (whatever they are proud of: bunda, eyes, mouth, ...). I make sure I do plenty of kissing and touching and try to session no earlier than 11 pm. This way I know that there will not be time to get another customer after me. I make sure to make an attempt to use Portuguese when talking with them. After I session with them, I ask them to sit with me in the boite after the shower. More drinks, perhaps cigarettes. Then I ask if she wants to go dancing with me. Lapa, Help, her choice? If yes, great, let's do it. If no is the answer, I invite them to lunch or dinner to the restaurant of their choice. If they don't have a restaurant preference, I suggest Porcao in Flamengo, where they get the royal treatment. I always treat them like a girlfriend in public, not like a wh0re. Complimenting them, being real attentive, asking about their parents/kids/dogs/favorite soccer team. Once I suggest to go to my hotel, they are then always game.
Addition: once I am ready to pop the question to go to my hotel, I always hasten to say not for "sexo", but for "amor". (Translation: I want a freebie - but my version sounds better). "Es muito bonita", "Gusto muito de ti", and phrases like that you should learn by heart, even if you know no Portuguese (like me). When I throw them in with my English, they really appreciate the attempt. Holding hands and smiling like a love-drunk teenager also help. Yes, it may be all an act, but if you want the full experience of theatre, you have to immerse yourself ;)
No matter who a women is or what her intentions are, they all get jealous once you make a connection. This means in particular: [i]do not check out other chicks when you are on your date[/i]. For any girl this is an absolute buzz-killer.
Two more things that are really important:
1. Be prepared that they become clingy! Make sure that you are willing to spend several days with the same girl, or otherwise have an escape route planned. Alternating between termas alone does not seem to be enough in some cases. In other words: [b]select your girl very carefully[/b]!
2. NEVER give her real information about you (where you live, what your full name is, your phone number, your email). I know, many guys do this. But this is my one rule that I do not violate. [b]What happens in Rio STAYS IN RIO![/b]
Euro100 thanks for your advices, may I ask you, if she agree to spend all the night with you, how much you pay her ? Something as 300 reais, an average price for Help girl or maybe 200 reais is enough ? Do you ask how much she wants or you just give her the money you think it is right ?
Usually on second or third day spent with her, you no more pay her, despite entrance in disco or the dinner at Porcao or you keep on pay her as the first night ?
Thanks ;)
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Euro100 thanks for your advices, may I ask you, if she agree to spend all the night with you, how much you pay her ? Something as 300 reais, an average price for Help girl or maybe 200 reais is enough ? Do you ask how much she wants or you just give her the money you think it is right ?
Usually on second or third day spent with her, you no more pay her, despite entrance in disco or the dinner at Porcao or you keep on pay her as the first night ?
Thanks ;)[/QUOTE]I sessioned with a girl at a Copa terma in March 2009 at 11p. After we cuddled and she came me her information. I returned to Rio in May, she came to my apartment and stay 3 nights and 4 days. I only took her out to eat as a GFE, and we fucked for free every night. On one day she took me to my first trip to Barra Tijuca mall by van and bus. I treated her to her favorite restaurant, Outbacks, at the big mall. We went window shopping at a smaller mall. She tried on a dress at one shop. While she was in the dressing room, I bought her a scarf I saw her staring at with glee.
The shop girls rush and wrapped it. When she came out of the room and was ready to go, I surprised her with the scarf at the glee of the sales girls for being romantic. At the mall the terma girls got me a new cellphone and turned it on using her name and west zone address.
The next day my girl bought me lunch. On the third day we screwed that morning. She showered first. But I got screwed. When it was my turn to showered, the city of Rio turned off the water the how day in all Rio to fix a treatment pipe. So she went to the Zona Sul market on Copa Blvdto get me bottled water to shower and breakfast.
So she took off from her terma for 4 days to be with me. And we had sushi with a buddie who date another terma girl.
My girl and I talk all the time. When she is traveling from her west zone to her Copa terma she calls me. And when she's home after work or on a day off she calls me. I usually acknowledge her call then call her on my international long distance card.
We talk and she is too proud to ask. But she is pretty and busy making money. One of the things she ask me in the beginning if I was jealous. That fctor give me the ability to see other women. She is so predictable.
Jamaicanceo thanks for sharing your experience.
Surely to do it, you do not have jealous and I am not, but I think your experience, that she took 4 days off, it happens very seldom, so congratulation for it ;)
What had Euro100, have her all night, it happens more often.
I think also that to have experience as you had, you need to go to Rio quite often, 2 or 3 times per year as me it is not enough.
And obviously to live there, give you great % to have an experience like this very very often.
I believe many mongers try to date them, so they choose and they probably have problem to choose too LOL.
I got until now only one terma girl with me to noon and surely it was the best night I had in Rio for quality, services, attitude and prices, I got the feeling I slept with an angel LOL....in comparison Help girl it just does not worth it at all.
[QUOTE=Euro100]Yes, this is still true. Their entry is 70, but down to 60 if you session. If you come in before 7 pm, it goes down to 30 with session and 35 without. (10R discount for a 240R transaction is a real joke, but oh well). One thing I found out this time: you can come in before 7, get the discount, stay a while, then leave and return later without paying another entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
Hang on now. I have a live brain cell somewhere that says entry is 60, did they go up while I was not looking? Also, I had the strong impression that 3 sessions wiped out the entry fee, but don't remember the details. I agee with the 50 pct reduction before 7 but you have to watch them on this one. I plan to check closely. It may be small for the occasional user, but it adds up.
[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Hang on now. I have a live brain cell somewhere that says entry is 60, did they go up while I was not looking? Also, I had the strong impression that 3 sessions wiped out the entry fee, but don't remember the details. I agee with the 50 pct reduction before 7 but you have to watch them on this one. I plan to check closely. It may be small for the occasional user, but it adds up.[/QUOTE]
Well, I may be wrong here. I never really examined my bill that closely, and I was quoting what I seemed to remember. Actually, the only time I ever kept my bill was last Saturday, when I left at 7. And there I just wanted to check that they have charged me the R30 for early entry (... which they did).
As for 3 sessions: cannot tell either, because the most I have ever done at L'uomo was two sessions in one day. I just like to take advantage of the opportunity of the ultra-long foreplay in the boite, and then time seems to fly.
[QUOTE=Lukasek]Euro100 thanks for your advices, may I ask you, if she agree to spend all the night with you, how much you pay her ? Something as 300 reais, an average price for Help girl or maybe 200 reais is enough ? Do you ask how much she wants or you just give her the money you think it is right ?
Usually on second or third day spent with her, you no more pay her, despite entrance in disco or the dinner at Porcao or you keep on pay her as the first night ?
Thanks ;)[/QUOTE]
Oh, sorry that I was not more clear on this point. I [i]always[/i] try to get them to my hotel for free. For me that's the whole point of this game and clearly my favorite part of hunting in Rio. It's not that I could not afford it; I am spending enough in Rio as it is, and sometimes my bill for drinks alone in L'uomo is R400 or so. And, yes, I pay for dinner and drinks and entrance to the clubs. And, yes, this can easily add up to R300 or R400. So I am not necessarily ahead financially when I play my game. But I want to feel that I have accomplished something more than P4P, that I have established at least a little bit of a connection.
Why would this work, you ask? Once I sessioned with her in the terma, she has already earned enough for the day (at least R150, I believe, go to the girl). Then she can afford to make an investment into getting me into a long-term relationship and give me sugar for free in my hotel. That allows her to see herself also more in the role of a regular girl and not a gdp, and I get WAY better loving this way ... as does she (at least, I hope!). Plus, when I go back to L'uomo the next day I make a point of only having a session with her and taking care of her while I am there. This makes it pleasant for both of us, and lucrative enough for her. (That's why the "not sexo, but amor" talk is important when I negotiate for her to come to my hotel.)
The first time I tried this was with the famous Ingrid, about five years ago. And it worked. After that I figured that if it works with Ingrid, who is the queen of L'uomo, then it works with everybody. If memory serves me right, I have tried this a total of 9 time now, and it worked 6 times. Twice the girl did not show up at my hotel as promised, and once the girl wanted money (I reported on this incident a couple of years back), and then I sent her home.
"Big deal!," you may say. "The girls that do this make a calculation, too, just like you do. And their calculation is to get you into longer relationships that may be more profitable in the long term." Yes, maybe true. But to some degree all interactions between two people, lovers or not, are like this. Or maybe, just maybe, these girls have just as much of a need as I do to get out of the P4P business for just some time, and to get treated like a real lover with real feelings and real needs. That's what I am hoping for.
Euro 100 (and your new member friend)...
Is Paola (straight, long black hair with a fringe, indian looking) still at L'uomo?
I had a great time with her in Spring but I was told in June she had retired?
[QUOTE=Euro100]Or maybe, just maybe, these girls have just as much of a need as I do to get out of the P4P business for just some time, and to get treated like a real lover with real feelings and real needs. That's what I am hoping for.[/QUOTE]I think you're onto something here, at least with some of the girls. Let's keep in mind that most of the local men wouldn't be caught dead with a gdp outside of a terma setting, since many of them have a wife or girlfriend; or even if they didn't they don't want people gossiping that they're boinking a gdp.
[QUOTE=Phunluv]I think you're onto something here, at least with some of the girls. Let's keep in mind that most of the local men wouldn't be caught dead with a gdp outside of a terma setting, since many of them have a wife or girlfriend; or even if they didn't they don't want people gossiping that they're boinking a gdp.[/QUOTE]Few Brazilian men could afford to go to top shelf termas. I asked my girl if her brothers or father knows she works at her terma. She said yes, but they don't know what goes on inside because they can't afford to go in. Plus she and her family lives in Bangu RJ 2 hours from Copa. She takes, a van to the bus stop, then to the metro, a total of 3 hours travel. At night she takes a cab.
With working 6 days a week, she loved the time we spent together. I helped her go from GDP to GFE. I think if you treat most of the girls special, they'll do the same to you. All SOME want is love.
Hi everyone here,
This is my first post, I can't get into this site very often. But I enjoy it each time I have the opportunity.
I would like to ask if you don't see a real 'risk' of falling in love with one these Brazilian goddess when you go out of the termas with them. The whole situation might be a theater but for sensitive people, as myself, I see difficult no to feel a crush after going for dinner, talking, sleeping, etc with a very pleasant beauty. Sometimes I have even difficulty of getting a girl out of my head if have had chemistry with her.