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[QUOTE=Hermann666;2166682]Is this the same Cheyenne that used to work in Artemis a few years ago?[/QUOTE]No, but she did work in several NRW clubs (she mentioned at least 5 different clubs to me iirc including LR, GT, Oceans.) for a few years with different names such as Carla etc. Perhaps she stayed the longest at LR from what I gather, but I am not 100% sure on time. I believe she has only been known as Cheyenne at Oase, and she has been at Oase for 3 years now. Cute and sexy girl for sure. Problem is sometimes she knows it. LOL I have said it before, but she is maybe one of the smartest FKK girls there are.
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[QUOTE=SamsonMonger;2166795]Thanks for the kind words. You are correct that I am limited in my knowledge of some middle tier girls and 50 euro rooms at Oase. I trust your experience that you found great 30 minute rooms with the non name brand girls there. I do admit that I am restricted to what I consider top tier optics.
For me that's like going to a club like Mondial that has super cheap prices and being upset at the fact that the girls are second tier and that the club is full of 28 year old Turkish guys who act as such..[/QUOTE]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.
This club Mondial you speak of sounds wonderful, something right up my alley, or better said my gutter. Thanks for the suggestion :D
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]This club Mondial you speak of sounds wonderful, something right up my alley, or better said my gutter. Thanks for the suggestion :D[/QUOTE]30 euro entry and 30 euro for 20 minutes. The food is decent especially at that price. On busy nights, a line does form for girls as they grab and return keys so it's best to avoid those pm hours on prime days. It's one of a few of clubs that provide a Hamam massage.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.
This club Mondial you speak of sounds wonderful, something right up my alley, or better said my gutter. Thanks for the suggestion.[/QUOTE]Let us come down to earth and reality, Mondial is not playing in the same liga than Shark or Oase, the girls are young and really behave like prostitutes no dream at all for me but some very nice experiences. The premises are poor and need a strong upgrade, very difficult at least for me to spend a full day there. Also very dark inside therefore difficult to see the girls.
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.[/QUOTE]Well done. This is what I consider a pro take on it. Not the pay 100 e all the time strategy. Now perhaps I and others have done a mistake at mentioning names here on ISG at all. It may buff the ego's of some of the queens. And that is bad for pricing. But a small tip is due where a small tip is due. Even off peak hours to support girls who give a little extra passion in the room.
I also sometimes leave the queens alone if they ask for 1 hour. Telling them that there are plenty of hot girls around. So I just grab a random girl in clear view of the queen and head to the room with her to show that she just lost money. In many clubs, the optical 8's are not really that much worse than the optical 9's anyway, and some of the 8's are superior in the room too.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2166881]No, but she did work in several NRW clubs (she mentioned at least 5 different clubs to me iirc including LR, GT, Oceans.) for a few years with different names such as Carla etc. Perhaps she stayed the longest at LR from what I gather, but I am not 100% sure on time. I believe she has only been known as Cheyenne at Oase, and she has been at Oase for 3 years now. Cute and sexy girl for sure. Problem is sometimes she knows it. LOL I have said it before, but she is maybe one of the smartest FKK girls there are.[/QUOTE]She had a terrible reputation in LR.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2166966]She had a terrible reputation in LR.[/QUOTE]Carla / Daria / Cheyenne. Did her at GT in her early days. 1 h including CIM for 100€, had a lot of fin with her. Fucked her again at LR, session was good. Then also at Oase, still a good session.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2166716]My session with Lara was not good, she is making my worst 10 sessions at Oase in the last 12 months.[/QUOTE]Pay her 100 for the hour and it works out great.
[QUOTE=Pistons;2166949]Well done. This is what I consider a pro take on it. Not the pay 100 e all the time strategy. Now perhaps I and others have done a mistake at mentioning names here on ISG at all. It may buff the ego's of some of the queens. And that is bad for pricing. But a small tip is due where a small tip is due. Even off peak hours to support girls who give a little extra passion in the room.
I also sometimes leave the queens alone if they ask for 1 hour. Telling them that there are plenty of hot girls around. So I just grab a random girl in clear view of the queen and head to the room with her to show that she just lost money. In many clubs, the optical 8's are not really that much worse than the optical 9's anyway, and some of the 8's are superior in the room too.[/QUOTE]Not mentioning any top girls on a review site and just call them all Eves. What a great point of view.
Well, more top optics girls available for me to give my 100 euro for an hour. 100 euro after 100 euro, Again and again and again!
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[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2166900]I think your first paragraph really says it all. I think at both clubs it would be hard to get one of top tier girls to the room for ' good service at a cheap charlie price' if even to the room at all and perhaps the Oase Queens are better attainable by the experienced for the best deals than the Queens of Darmstadt. I do not frequent the Queens so that being said I take your word on offering advise to where to best capture the Queens for the best value. As for me you are correct, I aim for good 30 min 50 e rooms with the non brand names although I do mix in 100 hours or upgrades to CIM. I can also be a little sneaky too (part of the fun) and off to the room I go with one of these ranted and raved about said Queens never to share the experience with others but those involve dropping more coin but than again I have to sniff them out at the right time (not peak busy ones) and 50 e can go pretty far especially when making my rounds mid-week when I find plucking them off the unemployment lines a tad easier.[/QUOTE]My one criticism with this is strategy is that it is a pauper's mentality. I go to these clubs to fuck like a king, be serviced like a king. I often sleep in cars in between visits so I understand being frugal; but in the club, I want to live like a young lion, taking what I want, when I want it. While in the club, penny pinching strategies and having to be opportunistic really takes away from the experience for me.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2166949]Well done.
So I just grab a random girl in clear view of the queen and head to the room with her to show that she just lost money. .[/QUOTE]Well done as well. Sometimes the Queens and / or greedy WG's in general need to be ' educated and trained thru observation' that involve the loss of potential Euros that could have been theirs. One greedy Shark once tried to talk me in to a 100 e session from a 50 e one while we talked on a couch and I would have done the 100 e session with her had she not been so greedy most likely would have extended in the room. Instead she watched me go to the room for 50 e with a girl seated very close to her yet I stayed an hour. The next day she saw me go to the room with the same girl again for an hour.
The next visit she got her room (agreed to at 50) and was paid 100 e at my choice when I shot my load in her mouth and she did not ask for a tip. Actually she ended up getting off easier, less time, spits cum in paper towel gets the same 100 e the girl who was not greedy had to work harder and longer for.
If I make it to Sharks soon I will find out if one of my staff members has been rehabilitated from observing similar.
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[QUOTE=Pistons;2166881] I believe she has only been known as Cheyenne at Oase[/QUOTE]In her 1st year at Oase, she used 'Michelle' for a period. That was how she introduced herself to me the 2 times I sessioned with her. That could perhaps have been her real name.
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Is she called?
Elma or Alma? Big sleeve tat down the left arm? How come nobody talks about her? Super easy laugh, traditional good service? French / Ro? Top class BJ.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2166869]Fake tits, speaking German with not accent, brown hair, usually hanging out in the main smoking lounge?[/QUOTE]Yes spot on. Highly recommended by me. YMMV.
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[QUOTE=Takedown;2166979]Pay her 100 for the hour and it works out great.[/QUOTE]Not even for 100€ did Lara perform well.
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[QUOTE=RogueNation;2166715]Was twice with Katharina and will not repeat, found her a boring session with no DFK.[/QUOTE]On March 2017, Bulgarian model type with beautiful green eyes, but too long nose for my tastes, kissed on 50 € rooms. When I went with her, she didn't try to upsell, but no woman sensuality, mechanical sex, so I did let her do, no need to spend big money, just kissing, being sucked, fucking, for 50 €, I didn't even take time to DATY her to drink her, because I found her not interesting in bed. Maybe she improved since then?