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[QUOTE=OldKool;1763055]Bad night in Sosua is better then anywhere in the states. Low season means instead of 300 girls you only have 150. Way more pussy then you can handle. No need to bring sand to the beach. If you are out to have a good time having sex with young attractive women the DR is the right place. You need to decide if you are sport fucking or wifing up. Both are great options. Sosua is perfect for sport fucking and the girls IMHO are no where near as hardcore is putas in the states. It is not a good idea to bring a non pro to Sosua. There so many hot willing girls you would be distracted and the girls insulted. Sosau is known as working girl haven.
A non-pro is not a good partner for mongering for most of us. They want marriage and commitment not on our menus. Most girls on cupid who are willing to hook up for short time fun under the guise of dating. This is a great way to get GFE. I have had some cupid girls on my list for 4 years. This is not rocket science do not over think it.
If this is your first time just do Sosua it is point and click with a lot of options. Play with cupid and get some numbers and if you get a hot one reel her in. However some basic Spanish is needed if you are dealing with the semi pros on your own. You are going to have a great time do not worry.[/QUOTE]There's no easy road to a non pro. Like anywhere else, time and money are needed. If you have all that figured out, might as well stay home.
I doubt Sosua is a good destination for no pros, Lol
That's why guys come to Sosua. To get away from the expensive, time consuming and disappointing bullshit!
A non pro in DR will probably give you as much hassle (eventually) as a chick in the the USA. And probably more!
That's why I pay (gift) my regular of 7 years. It's a business transaction, and I set the rules. But I'm (really) a nice guy and she enjoys it!
I can go down tomorrow and she'll give me a week 24/7.
Those who obsess about what she might do when I'm not there, is no mi problema. I have first dibs on her always.
Let some submissive boyfriend worry about that!, LOL.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1763036]If you're just going the nonpro route, you're better off staying in Puerto Plata. If you just want to get laid go to Sosua.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Pto Pta also better for semi-pros, but you will need some Spanish (or French for Haitians).
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1763096]There's no easy road to a non pro. Like anywhere else, time and money are needed. If you have all that figured out, might as well stay home.
I doubt Sosua is a good destination for no pros, Lol
That's why guys come to Sosua. To get away from the expensive, time consuming and disappointing bullshit!
A non pro in DR will probably give you as much hassle (eventually) as a chick in the the USA. And probably more!
That's why I pay (gift) my regular of 7 years. It's a business transaction, and I set the rules. But I'm (really) a nice guy and she enjoys it!
I can go down tomorrow and she'll give me a week 24/7.
Those who obsess about what she might do when I'm not there, is no mi problema. I have first dibs on her always.
Let some submissive boyfriend worry about that!, LOL.[/QUOTE]I think its pointless to chase Non-Pro's especially if your only going to be in sosua for a week or 2. Sosua is for Sport Fuckers and Guys that want to get some new pussy and get away from the Wife for while. If your looking for Non-Pros, There is no need to leave the United States. Its 2015 and You have women that will suck and fuck for some Jordans and a happy meal, Every Chick these days is looking for a sugar daddy so they can buy the latest material bullshit to Flex on Facebook and Instagram.
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It's not complicated.
Non-pros are for non-mongers.
Semi-pros are for semi-mongers.
Pros are for mongers.
:)
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Sorry folks, duplicated post while frigging around unsuccessfully trying to get the automatic spellchecker to accept an accent. "Kreyol" should have a grave on the "o".
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[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1763315]... you will need some ... French for Haitians.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Frannie;1763339]Sa se yon bon bagay yo konnen. That is good to know.[/QUOTE]Well, of course, Kreyol would be far better, but not many mongers know even a few words of it.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1755557]French did not help me because Haitians speak creole, so that didn't get me anywhere. [/QUOTE]After eight years of talking to Haitians, I am still not clear about something. To gringos, they often refer to Kreyol as "French". For example, if I essay a simple greeting in Kreyol, their little faces light up (well, insofar as black faces can), and they say "Oh, you speak French!" I used to think they were politely calling it "French" because they would not expect foreigners to know, or even know about, Kreyol. But I am now thinking that many of them, especially those who learned little or no French at school, do actually think they are speaking some sort of French. As Durandpaul found out, that can sometimes lead to disappointment.
Until recently my friends and I have been running a school for Haitian children, and even our teachers, who were educated (and the Director a graduate) often used "French" for Kreyol when they meant "not Spanish". For example "We will label the exhibits in both Spanish and French" (when they actually meant Kreyol).
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1763446]Non-pros are for non-mongers.
Semi-pros are for semi-mongers.
Pros are for mongers.
[/QUOTE]Amusing and almost true, but not quite.
Nowhere near as succinct and witty, but nearer the truth:
Pros are for mongers.
Semi-pros are for semi-mongers and for many more experienced and discerning mongers.
Non-pros are for non-mongers, or mongers who are taking a break from mongering, or guys with money to burn, or bullshitting fantasists.
Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.
For a while, it also referred to the vendor (as in some Restoration plays), but the current usage was the original (and oddball) one.
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[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1763485]Amusing and almost true, but not quite.
Nowhere near as succinct and witty, but nearer the truth:
Pros are for mongers.
Semi-pros are for semi-mongers and for many more experienced and discerning mongers.
Non-pros are for non-mongers, or mongers who are taking a break from mongering, or guys with money to burn, or bullshitting fantasists.
Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.
For a while, it also referred to the vendor (as in some Restoration plays), but the current usage was the original (and oddball) one.[/QUOTE]Very clever Charles! And true! However, from my point of view (meaning it's all relative as Einstein may say- from the point of view of the observer) you are missing the essence of life! Getting to know another human being. In another country. In another culture. I love (but not ' in love ') the women and truly enjoy learning about them, their lives and see them have a good time drinking, eating, and to use a ancient expression ' and be merry'. No pun intended, Charles!
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1763096]There's no easy road to a non pro. Like anywhere else, time and money are needed. If you have all that figured out, might as well stay home.
I doubt Sosua is a good destination for no pros, Lol
That's why guys come to Sosua. To get away from the expensive, time consuming and disappointing bullshit!
A non pro in DR will probably give you as much hassle (eventually) as a chick in the the USA. And probably more!
That's why I pay (gift) my regular of 7 years. It's a business transaction, and I set the rules. But I'm (really) a nice guy and she enjoys it!
I can go down tomorrow and she'll give me a week 24/7.
Those who obsess about what she might do when I'm not there, is no mi problema. I have first dibs on her always.
Let some submissive boyfriend worry about that!, LOL.[/QUOTE]As they say your mileage may vary!! YMMV, right!? I have used both Sosua and Costambar as a base! I have never discussed dineros with a chica for several months of visits (combined total with 3-5 weeks at a time) . They don't have my USA phone number and I make it clear I do not send dineros. But when I am there they do better with me than the pros for sure! I bring them stuff (phones, clothes, brand name original perfumes) take them to resorts like Lifestyle, Playa Dorada (not all of them) and do slip money into their purse and ask Them to go shopping etc.
I do however put in a lot of time..a lot...before each visit ...dating sites and Facebook ...to communiate and get a ' read' as best I can about a chica....and of course when I arrive 60 PC are not available. So, when I arrive I have at least 30 -40 good new leads. But, for say 3 weeks I only need 6-7 Chicas, new and ones from before. So, I approach things quite a bit differently. Yeah, some want more ...and when I sense it is strong ...I disconnect and move on. I stay quite objective on the one hand and quite engaged with the person at other hand, both at the same time.
But I don't select based on the body or beauty on the 1-10 scale. I prefer the 6-7 . And probably 25 per cent of them are just ok meaning it was Ok but not better than ok. And 1 out 10 I tell myself I got that one wrong. But about 2/3 Rd of time I am really glad I met that person. It all depends on what you are looking for. I enjoy their company and usually a minimum of 3 days at a time And maybe 2-3 out of 10 I see the next time.
But I am by no means average in terms of my mimdset. 3 days min? It cannot be just about sex. : sex is fleeting. , and by itself a chore. , not worth much to me. Hanging on the beach with a nice chica or in a nightclub or a resort and having some drinks and good food together ...lasts much much longer. So from my POV sex is overrated , a necessary but not a sufficient condition as they say in scientific circles ( and no I am not a scientist or a technology guy but a global business manager for large corporates ( as in was, LOL ! ) ..,,that's why I say it's all relative and that YMMV.
The point of this post is simply to say it is not all the same strokes for all folks. So, all please do whatevef you like best, the approach that works for you...but all I am saying is that there are many ways to approach this...and perhaps differently at different points in your life stages.
The question then I am sure Charles would ask is: why do you think they want to be with you. I dunno but maybe a) they have nothing better to do and are intrigued and want to have a good time for a few days and not have to spend a single dinero ? B ) their Dominican boyfriend let them down ? C ) they think something may really come out of it , d ) they were referred to me by someone I know locally and it has worked out for me before , or some combination of the above ? But I do make sure that they all do better with me than a non pro... So yeah, who knows ?
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[QUOTE=Haven123;1763733]As they say your mileage may vary!! YMMV, right!? [/QUOTE]Well, in my own case the answer is no. I get pretty much what I expect from my regular and somehow we keep it fresh and fun.
Here in my case the relationship exists on two levels:
1: is the employer / employee financial relationship. We spend virtually no time discussing money (it's a given).
2: is the actual working relationship, which has grown mutually beneficial over time. We are genuinely happy to see each other as often as we can.
You ask why they might want to be with you? There are many reasons, and if you are the cynical sort, you can leave out "genuine affection", or even genuine "like", certainly not "love", but as a rule of thumb, there are good employers, and bad employers. Good employers have happier employees.
If your interactions are mostly mutually satisfactory, you would be considered a good employer. What makes a good employer? That's another subject entirely!
Those who are more frequently ripped off are usually bad employers.
(Opinion based on 50 years in business).
It's just life.
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[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1763485]Amusing and almost true, but not quite.
Nowhere near as succinct and witty, but nearer the truth:
Pros are for mongers.
Semi-pros are for semi-mongers and for many more experienced and discerning mongers.
Non-pros are for non-mongers, or mongers who are taking a break from mongering, or guys with money to burn, or bullshitting fantasists.
Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.
For a while, it also referred to the vendor (as in some Restoration plays), but the current usage was the original (and oddball) one.[/QUOTE]Who is laying down all these rules-LOL!
My motto is find, fuck, forget till next time!
I have no time or patience to find out if the girl is pros, semi-pros or non pros. All girls fuck and love to fuck who they like in most cases.
In DR as well as in many countries I have found girls on the street, at the malls, beaches etc. Some may come across as shy, not on first date, I do not know you well and all other sorts of bull shit stories. If I give them my phone number sure enough to get a message offering services or GFE fuck. Giving money is just natural to help them out. Nobody has kicked me in the balls for giving them money yet in other countries. In many cases I have gotten a nice GF to call when I visit again. In my case being a monger is all about finding new ones to fuck.
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[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1763485]Have you ever thought about the word "monger", short for "wh_oremonger"? It is an oddity, because with all the other words formed from "monger", like "fishmonger", "ironmonger", "warmonger", "scaremonger", etc., the monger is the person vending or purveying the object or service. Only in "wh_oremonger" does it refer to the purchaser and not to the puta or pimp.....[/QUOTE]Interesting take!
I prefer the term purveyor, it has the ring of "perv. ", or "perp. " :)
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Hey Oak, I like it. Purveyor of Fine Pussy and Chi Chis Muy Grande.
[QUOTE=Oakie;1764035]Interesting take!
I prefer the term purveyor, it has the ring of "perv. ", or "perp. " :)[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=Sammon;1763854]Who is laying down all these rules[/QUOTE]If you are referring my post, the categories were descriptive, not prescriptive, so they are not rules.
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Let's make it simple
Pros, semi pros, hookers; just go to Sosua, fuck, and have fun!
Please get back to the trip reports.