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What will be the average number of girls can be expected from Thursday to Sunday in following clubs after 7 in the evening.
Magnum, ACA Gold, Sixsense, Penalope and Sky.
From the reports Sky will be having minimum numbers and only Latinas.
And which club will be having maximum number of girls in NRW area?
[QUOTE=Thampi62;3007219]What will be the average number of girls can be expected from Thursday to Sunday in following clubs after 7 in the evening.
Magnum, ACA Gold, Sixsense, Penalope and Sky.
From the reports Sky will be having minimum numbers and only Latinas.
And which club will be having maximum number of girls in NRW area?[/QUOTE]6 sens will have 50/60 on Friday and Saturday, Magnum and Penelope around 40/50 and Gold around 40 . Friday and Saturday are 2 best casting days, Thursday is usually not bad in these clubs. On Friday and Saturday, sometimes 100 at Sharks, 40/50 at Oase. Quantity don t mean quality, when not so many at Sharks worth rate they ask, but few are higher level than most Globe girls, for look and in bed, for 100 . For who look for 150/60 , I would not advice Sharks, but NRW where can find better quality for 100/150 for 1 hour. NRW is better value for money than Hessen. My best value for quality is very few at YY for 70/30 and for money, very few at Penelope for 50/60/30.150/60 for only CBJ and sex would be real waste of money for me. But, from where we are from and what we are, we don t have same standards, when I don t pay for not pretties, when I m not excited if the look doesn t impress me and sex without FK is low quality for me and CBJ or HJ are killing libido for me. I m not kind of to pay for CIM with CBJ, some pay for.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007139]No, at Sharks, only few will now accept 150/60 , even without FK and for sure not prettiest nor busiest. Maybe Sylvana or old NL?[/QUOTE]It is reputed that Sylvana's BBBJ's are exceptional. Even so I am not interested as I incorporate optics into the enjoyment of my BBBJs. The problem I have with paying 200/60 for the hottest girls is that sometimes the hottest girls provide less enjoyable service than the not so hot babes. I would hate to spend EUR200 for bad service. I would probably be better off spending 150/60 with not so hot ladies but getting good service even without DFK. However, CBJ would be a bummer but I would definitely have to lower my expectations from 5 years ago.
[QUOTE=Shark16;3007080]Do not forget that the new generation of mongers never have experienced the good old times when BBBJ / DATY / Kissing always were included in the price. Thus they do not comprehend the discussions among vets on this board.
As a regular client to some of the girls I'd say that I can find top GFE sessions for 150 E /60 among some of the hottest girls with as much DFK as I want. Asking girls new to me about the same is a totally different story. [/QUOTE]There's a certain logic in the first paragraph. We all talk about "back when" but I'd say the core of the discussion hinges on repeat business vs one offs.
If your face is known it's obvious girls will hope to get you for a fair price. If you're walking through as a new visitor why not ask for the higher price. It's simple sales tactics. You go anywhere where prices are negotiated. If they know you you expect a lower "better" price or more services / goods for you buck.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3007299]It is reputed that Sylvana's BBBJ's are exceptional. Even so I am not interested as I incorporate optics into the enjoyment of my BBBJs. The problem I have with paying 200/60 for the hottest girls is that sometimes the hottest girls provide less enjoyable service than the not so hot babes. I would hate to spend EUR200 for bad service. I would probably be better off spending 150/60 with not so hot ladies but getting good service even without DFK. However, CBJ would be a bummer but I would definitely have to lower my expectations from 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]Granny marathon woman superwoman Sylvana, legend all over Germany. Never half of Sharks casting will accept 150/60 and for sure not the prettiest, busiest. Good point at Sharks is most best ones are not the most expensive and most of most expensive are not the best, so, quite easy to choose if your eyes and brain are working. Can have high quality with few for 100/30, when CBJ, HJ and no FK are low quality for sex. Better to visit on best times, then to choose best ones and make and enjoy quality on best of Globe level, for look and GFE. Before, my standard was 100/60 for GFE, now my standard is GFE for 100 with no rush, working on girls I choose. Only 1 at Sharks worth 200/60 for me, compare to escorts. On this year, I already had 15 really good rooms at Sharks, not so bad, even only 7 are on my standards and only 5 worth I drive from so far to repeat. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I evaluate girls while introduction, then choose if I take risk, when I don't ask about services, not to hear about upselling, then I work my best to make quality I expect and enjoy. Just easy. For standard 150/60, Sharks won't be best quality, when most girls I choose, let me play my game for 100 and not upselling. My experience with about 20 visits on this year, leaving full balls on some. Little Romanians should not be able for my level.
One guy at an FKK once asked me if it's OK that hot sexy women have sex with ugly men. I didn't know what to answer.
But now I have concluded: all men are ugly, and that has been part of our evolution since the dawn of time. Men actually get more masculine as we age. Peak is between 30-55 years old.
What all women instinctively want is to be slutty, and to have sex traded for money. Since all men are ugly, women do want a man with muscles, but aside from that they mainly want money traded for sex. This is true for every woman on the planet. But women also can have multiple orgasms, so they can have more sex than men. More often, and thus they don't require nor want much money traded for sex. Actually they want it to be cheap. They don't want to be exclusive. Exclusive means less sex, and they all want a lot of sex.
So the conclusion is that we must make all women into sluts. Abolish marriages worldwide. Create a new system of mass producing the best kids (mainly perfect females), and turn every nightclub in the world into legal brothels.
Some might ask: but what about STD's?
Well, ask the medical people and the big pharmacy and apparently they will tell you that they can now fix all diseases. And at least soon they will be able to. Well, then let them. And force them to also make it free for all. As cheap as water.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3007303]There's a certain logic in the first paragraph. We all talk about "back when" but I'd say the core of the discussion hinges on repeat business vs one offs.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have to disagree on this. At least if you look at it from a Hessen / Frankfurt perspective (which I do). There is no doubt that service standards have deteriorated over the years. 20 years ago, 10 years ago, yes, even 5 years ago service standards were better.
I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw.
Of course, I totally agree that repeat business can improve service quality/price. Then again, who is willing to repeat with a girl that do not provide a good performance on a first date? I certainly don't.
If a girl wants my repeat business, she needs to have (i) top optic quality. (ii) Top GFE performance. (iii) Fair pricing (going rates without upsell).
[QUOTE=Shark16;3007334]Sorry, I have to disagree on this. At least if you look at it from a Hessen / Frankfurt perspective (which I do). There is no doubt that service standards have deteriorated over the years. 20 years ago, 10 years ago, yes, even 5 years ago service standards were better.
I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw. Service standard/price was part of the "house rules". If she would not provide a standard service (without upsell), she was free to move to another club. Back then discussions about service quality on ISG were basically about kissing with tongue or not, if the BJ included attention to the twins, if the BJ was deep or not, usw.
Of course, I totally agree that repeat business can improve service quality/price. Then again, who is willing to repeat with a girl that do not provide a good performance on a first date? I certainly don't.
If a girl wants my repeat business, she needs to have (i) top optic quality. (ii) Top GFE performance. (iii) Fair pricing (going rates without upsell).[/QUOTE]Sharks was only with maximum 40 girls in 2014 when I discovered. Yes, big inflation since 2022 , when I had many 100/60 with GFE on 2021 reopening. Yes, average level really fell at Sharks with now many small pussies and schoolgirl looks, but since 2021 and on this year, I found some on higher level than most I had before covid, higher level for sex than Megan, Roxana, Florentina. Still some high levels and they are not the most expensive, good point. I adapt to new business.
[QUOTE=Shark16;3007334]Sorry, I have to disagree on this. At least if you look at it from a Hessen / Frankfurt perspective (which I do). There is no doubt that service standards have deteriorated over the years. 20 years ago, 10 years ago, yes, even 5 years ago service standards were better.
I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw.
Of course, I totally agree that repeat business can improve service quality/price. Then again, who is willing to repeat with a girl that do not provide a good performance on a first date? I certainly don't.
If a girl wants my repeat business, she needs to have (i) top optic quality. (ii) Top GFE performance. (iii) Fair pricing (going rates without upsell).[/QUOTE]OK let's disagree (politely over a beer), I'm saying everything costs more than it did 20,10 even 5 years ago. NOT that the service is worse. You can have the same service, it just costs more.
The airline industry did it by unbundling the luggage and seat options (except for the very best customers). The alternative. At least in the US- was to is reduce the size of a bag of coffee, box of cereal, container of yoghurt but leave the price the same (rather than charge more- "Shrinkflation"- there's certainly a penis joke in there somewhere?
That to me is what has happened at the level of the FKKs, Unbundling. YOu want DATY, pay me extra, but I'll still let you have basic services for the old price.
[QUOTE=Pistons;3007318]One guy at an FKK once asked me if it's OK that hot sexy women have sex with ugly men. I didn't know what to answer.
But now I have concluded: all men are ugly, and that has been part of our evolution since the dawn of time. Men actually get more masculine as we age. Peak is between 30-55 years old.
What all women instinctively want is to be slutty, and to have sex traded for money. Since all men are ugly, women do want a man with muscles, but aside from that they mainly want money traded for sex. This is true for every woman on the planet. But women also can have multiple orgasms, so they can have more sex than men. More often, and thus they don't require nor want much money traded for sex. Actually they want it to be cheap. They don't want to be exclusive. Exclusive means less sex, and they all want a lot of sex.
So the conclusion is that we must make all women into sluts. Abolish marriages worldwide. Create a new system of mass producing the best kids (mainly perfect females), and turn every nightclub in the world into legal brothels.[/QUOTE]Normal women are very different from girls in this business behavior. Girls just starting in this business are also different. Most guys in this business are not best ones. FKK world is not real world.
No more 50/30 at Sharks, except maybe for Balkanians for very fast suck and fuck with not pretties in last half hour. More 50/10 or 15 at 4. 45 am. Maybe, more than 70 yo Sylvana provides for 50 , but would be too expensive for me and killing my libido, when she catch muscular young guys.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007339]Sharks was only with maximum 40 girls in 2014 when I discovered. Yes, big inflation since 2022 , when I had many 100/60 with GFE on 2021 reopening. Yes, average level really fell at Sharks with now many small pussies and schoolgirl looks, but since 2021 and on this year, I found some on higher level than most I had before covid, higher level for sex than Megan, Roxana, Florentina. Still some high levels and they are not the most expensive, good point. I adapt to new business.[/QUOTE]I rank Megan as one of the ten best girls I've had sex with at FKKs. If there are higher levels than her at Sharks now then I think I should come over to Germany this summer.
[QUOTE=Turgid;3007477]I rank Megan as one of the ten best girls I've had sex with at FKKs. If there are higher levels than her at Sharks now then I think I should come over to Germany this summer.[/QUOTE]Megan was very pretty and sweet lovely, even once she turned mad about me at Globe, telling: why do you look at me when You don't go with me anymore. Not many, almost none, on her look level most often, among 100 at Sharks except Alex. Ro and 50 at Globe except my Sylvester afternoon discovery, but she was really not on the highest level for sex, even not bad. I had many, since covid, on higher level for sex and I have at least 2 at Sharks on this year and wish a new Romanian will confirm also higher level on our discovery for 100. For me, Megan didn't have level for sex to pay 130€ per 30 and less fresh at Globe where she went after listening to my experiences. Unfortunately, average level for girls and Romanians really fell, but can still find very few who are really high level, even for 100 , but not for 150/60. From where and what we are, we have different demanding level and I m happy to find higher level for sex than Megan, but not often prettier. But I only pay for among prettiest, or I prefer to leave full balls. Good for me is my best are not those asking the most expensive.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;3007350]I'm saying everything costs more than it did 20,10 even 5 years ago. NOT that the service is worse. You can have the same service, it just costs more.[/QUOTE]I am starting to feel we are beating a dead horse by now. But anyways:
Everybody can agree the prices have gone up. Not the point. Unbundling / shrinkflation? Absolutely. But your reference to the airline industry is not a good one:
You make it sound like if as long as you pay extras, you are guaranteed to get the service perfectly delivered. This is where we part ways. As many, many others have written before me many services can be given as a basic service without paying an extra. And sometimes a service will not be delivered no matter what you are paying. And no, no need to pay extra money just because she is hot, young, blond, got big boobs, or whatever. Prices can differ from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and sometimes from time to time. For the exact same services with the club's best optics.
I repeat: The going rate for me at Sharks (and most other Frankfurt clubs) is 200 E /60 (and occasionally 150 E /60) for a GFE session (without kinks, but with BJ / DATY / CFS / kissing) with one of the top optics. I may skip kissing if she asks extra for it (those girls are easy to replace anyway). With the airline analogy I would be mislead to believe I would need to pay 250- 300 or more for the same. It is simply not true. Not in my experience anyway.