Angeles City

[QUOTE=Stykler;2375795]You ate there and survived? Well done![/QUOTE]I assume this was said in jest so let's continue the joke and contrast the two options:

In the red corner we have the 1000 p hamburger with fries and mayonnaise. The meat patty looks delicious and is made from Australian beef, imported a couple of months ago having passed through various wholesalers, distributors, and transport companies. Most had (barely) adequate refrigeration equipment and the frequent brown outs didn't let storage temps rise too much. Intermodal transfer saw boxes sitting on tables or docks waiting for the next carrier to arrive. The meat is bought in bulk, divided and minced with unused portions rechilled at each step for later use. It's expensive so staff have orders not to waste or dispose of anything. Said staff have no training or knowledge of food hygiene standards. They have never eaten the foods they prepare and serve. The end restaurant has an extensive menu of western dishes so it keeps numerous different ingredients on hand. Total throughput is high but the turnover of individual ingredients is low. Again, because of high costs all are kept until they are used. G eats his medium rare burger and it tastes pretty good but he wonders why he feels like shit the next day.

In the blue corner we have EDs 200 p fried fish, rice and steamed salad from a mom and pop store. They have no money for bulk buys so they go to the market every morning and buy what ever is fresh and available. Their menu is only 4 or 5 items so they buy just those ingredients. They buy enough for the day and when the ingredients run out they shut up shop and go home. Tomorrow they will do the same. Mum has never been to culinary school but the same dish has been cooked by women in her family for generations. Her mum made sure to show her how to cook it so its both delicious and healthy. Nuclear fision hot woks and lots of spices seal in the taste and kill any bugs. ED arrives, eats a delicious meal, chats to some of the people astonished to see a white guy there, a couple of girls even give him their number, and recommend a place around the corner that specialises in delicious chicken dishes. Both will do for tomorrow's lunch. Next time he comes for a meal, mom remembers him and picks out one of the bigger pieces of fish reserved for repeat visitors and serves up a larger pile of salads. ED is happy.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=FiveByFive;2376172]I usually time my arrival at AC so I can start off my trip with the Score Birds pool party. Its nice to see what the quality of talent will be like during my stay. Before the chicas start the bikini contest they always get wet down and get pictures taken. Anyone know if Score Birds post those pics? Would be nice to have a preview of thing right before I arrive.[/QUOTE]I doubt if Scorebirds will post pics but write them and ask if you want. I went to the bikini contest September 21 and had a great time.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2376331]I assume this was said in jest so let's continue the joke and contrast the two options:


In the blue corner we have EDs 200 p fried fish, rice and steamed salad from a mom and pop store. They have no money for bulk buys so they go to the market every morning and buy what ever is fresh and available. Their menu is only 4 or 5 items so they buy just those ingredients. They buy enough for the day and when the ingredients run out they shut up shop and go home. Tomorrow they will do the same. Mum has never been to culinary school but the same dish has been cooked by women in her family for generations. Her mum made sure to show her how to cook it so its both delicious and healthy. Nuclear fision hot woks and lots of spices seal in the taste and kill any bugs. ED arrives, eats a delicious meal, chats to some of the people astonished to see a white guy there, a couple of girls even give him their number, and recommend a place around the corner that specialises in delicious chicken dishes. Both will do for tomorrow's lunch. Next time he comes for a meal, mom remembers him and picks out one of the bigger pieces of fish reserved for repeat visitors and serves up a larger pile of salads. ED is happy.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Your mom and pop start cooking early in the morning, the food sit mostly outside. Covered but the weather is hot and humid. Whenever a customer shows up he starts removing the covers to see what's in the pot. Your pop try desperately to keep the flies away. Now you show up in the afternoon picking in up a meal that was made hours ago, sitting outside in the hot weather and was probably touched by ever customer before you. Enjoy your food poisoning just to save a couple of hundreds peso.

[QUOTE=BroComplex;2376581]Your pop try desperately to keep the flies away. Now you show up in the afternoon picking in up a meal that was made hours ago, sitting outside in the hot weather and was probably touched by ever customer before you. Enjoy your food poisoning just to save a couple of hundreds peso.[/QUOTE]If that were true, it would happen to most everyone who ate it. Why don't I get sick from eating street foods?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2376586]If that were true, it would happen to most everyone who ate it. Why don't I get sick from eating street foods?[/QUOTE]I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.

Having said that there are some people who never get sick irrespective of what they eat. Andrew zimmer from bizarre food comes to mind. Maybe he takes protective antibiotics before he eats all kind of crazy foods.

Most experts say to stick to hot street foods. Even then quality of the meat, cooking oil, hygiene will all contribute to toxins in the food. Toxins cannot be eliminated by cooking.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2376618]I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.

Having said that there are some people who never get sick irrespective of what they eat. Andrew zimmer from bizarre food comes to mind. Maybe he takes protective antibiotics before he eats all kind of crazy foods.

Most experts say to stick to hot street foods. Even then quality of the meat, cooking oil, hygiene will all contribute to toxins in the food. Toxins cannot be eliminated by cooking.[/QUOTE]Most sickness is borne from the plates and utensils for the lack good hygienic washing. Most places do not have a good supply of hot water to wash plates and utensil with. If you look closely they will have 3 pans of water. They will dip the plates and utensils in the first one to to clear it. Then wash them with soap in the second pan and dip and rinse in the 3rd pan. After that they will drip dry out in the open air. Some places might place the utensils in a pot of hot boiling water to sanitize.

Best to bring your own plate and utensils to eat with.

It certainly isnt any fun to get the runs while you are in the middle of pumping some sweet warm wet poon! (Ask me how I know?)

In reference to bacteria / germ posts recently.

Swipe eating utensils with "isopropyl alcohol" (Pads, cloth, 70% or more saturated with same).

Easily purchased in your local country at Pharmacy / Drug Store / Chemist shop / s. Pack securely in your check in bag / suitcase. Not allowed in carry on.

Swiping the plate covered with food, well, that is a difficult one, LOL.

Swipe bar drinking glasses, tea cups, and your dick if you like, too, LOL. Tuberculosis is rife in Phils and readily transported via the above mentioned eating / drinking utensils.

I have survived 45 years of Phil eating, but mostly luck I suspect.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2376618]I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.
.....[/QUOTE]Try Dukoral, it is an oral vaccine that provides protection against cholera for 5 years and also e. Coli for 3 months. Start is two doses at 6 weeks between then one dose to renew your protection.

Cost is $CDN 50 in Canada, no prescription needed. Not available in Philippines, not sure other countries.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2376618]I believe you live in Philippines. Consequently you have built up immunity to street food poisoning. But for a casual visitor even a small taste of contaminated food can trigger a massive sickness at best diarrhea and at worst dehydration and hospital visit or death.SNIP Having said that there are some people who never get sick irrespective of what they eat. [/QUOTE]I was a long-time weekend warrior there, and still spend good chunks of time there. I have been sick multiple times there with the symptoms of a cold, but only once from what might have been a food problem (Cebu), a hard 24-hour intestinal thing.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2376620]Most sickness is borne from the plates and utensils for the lack good hygienic washing. Most places do not have a good supply of hot water to wash plates and utensil with. If you look closely they will have 3 pans of water. They will dip the plates and utensils in the first one to to clear it. Then wash them with soap in the second pan and dip and rinse in the 3rd pan. After that they will drip dry out in the open air. Some places might place the utensils in a pot of hot boiling water to sanitize.Best to bring your own plate and utensils to eat with.[/QUOTE]Have witnessed the most horrific such instances of washing dishes in the provinces especially. Worst example: Someone grabs the dirty plates and soaks them all in a small tub of water that has no soap in it. A bit later they take a dirty rag and wipe each dish and set it aside in a heap to air dry (when raining, and it could take many hours to dry); the dirty water is thrown outside near the trash heap, and the dirty dishrag is set aside to use tomorrow.

BTW, when I was younger, every bar I went into did something similar to DG's description with empty drink glasses: Dip it (twice) into a tray of cold soapy water (its been sitting there being utilized all night), then dip it into a tray of clear water (also not empties all night), then set aside to dry and re-use.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2376632]Swipe eating utensils with "isopropyl alcohol" (Pads, cloth, 70% or more saturated with same). SNIP Swiping the plate covered with food, well, that is a difficult one, LOL. Swipe bar drinking glasses, tea cups, and your dick if you like, too, LOL. Tuberculosis is rife in Phils and readily transported via the above mentioned eating / drinking utensils. I have survived 45 years of Phil eating, but mostly luck I suspect.[/QUOTE]Holy sh*t! Interestingly, I use the anti-bac wipes from the drug store and let my twin-packs use one to clean Johnson between girls. Never thought of taking them (the wipes) to a restaurant.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2376633]Try Dukoral, it is an oral vaccine that provides protection against cholera for 5 years and also e. Coli for 3 months. Start is two doses at 6 weeks between then one dose to renew your protection. Cost is $CDN 50 in Canada, no prescription needed. Not available in Philippines, not sure other countries.[/QUOTE]Thanks!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2376620]Most sickness is borne from the plates and utensils for the lack good hygienic washing. [/QUOTE]Agreed. I'm far more concerned about the water and ice than the food. Generally skip ice and only drink water that has been boiled vigorously. It's no coincidence that tea is so popular as a drink of choice throughout Asia.

It can also be simple unfamiliarity with the ingredients. Spices, chilies or even unfamiliar cuts of meat can be perfectly hygienic bit still cause Traveller's Belly.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx;2376632]Swipe eating utensils with "isopropyl alcohol" (Pads, cloth, 70% or more saturated with same).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2376633]Try Dukoral, it is an oral vaccine that provides protection against cholera for 5 years and also e. Coli for 3 months. [/QUOTE]I'm not suggesting being fool hardy but all the active protection options don't seem to work as well as just going to places that serve 100's of local people every lunchtime. If people were getting sick there, word would soon spread and customers would dry up quickly.

I do agree that you do build up a tolerance to new foods and different tastes.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2376655]....



I'm not suggesting being fool hardy but all the active protection options don't seem to work as well as just going to places that serve 100's of local people every lunchtime. If people were getting sick there, word would soon spread and customers would dry up quickly.
....[/QUOTE]I said in a previous post, go to the ones where the locals are, not only better hygiene but usually better tasting food as well.

At home, look for the diner with all the local cars in front, no difference here.

(Don't go by big trucks at home, it just may indicate the best parking spots for them.)

"Not allowed in carry on bag". When I said that, I was referring to bottles of isopropyl alcohol. The mini pads themselves, no problem, can be in carry on bag. Buying a bottle of the stuff and wetting a 'pad' is the cheapest, and most effective way, in my opinion.

I believe the P5000/10,000 girls insist on swiping your dick with the (mini) "ISO" pads before a blow job. Cost of (mini) pads graciously included in the 5/10 grand fee.

Going from Manila to Subic. Bought some water on the bus. Obviously they just refilled it out the tap. So bad had to cut my trip short and fly home. Was going both ends. Felt like shit. Doc said water borne bug.
2nd time. Bought hot dog at airport. Sat on toilet almost all the way home. Projectile vomit at times. My doc is giving me antibiotics before I go this time. Pray not 3 times unlucky.I have dodgy stomach at best of times. Sorry not going to risk it with street food (although have ate at Jalan Alor many a time and never been sick).
NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2376693]Going from Manila to Subic. Bought some water on the bus. Obviously they just refilled it out the tap. So bad had to cut my trip short and fly home. Was going both ends. Felt like shit. Doc said water borne bug.
2nd time. Bought hot dog at airport. Sat on toilet almost all the way home. Projectile vomit at times. My doc is giving me antibiotics before I go this time. Pray not 3 times unlucky.I have dodgy stomach at best of times. Sorry not going to risk it with street food (although have ate at Jalan Alor many a time and never been sick).
NI.[/QUOTE]Do your best. I carry a range of antibiotics. But prevention is best.

A) Buy branded water.

B) wash hands regularly.

C) only eat fresh pussy.

To be honest on the trips that I engage with a lower number of Filipina, I get sick less. When we sleep with dogs we get up with fleas.

PP.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2376655]I do agree that you do build up a tolerance to new foods and different tastes.[/QUOTE]In my example of where they clean the dishes by just wiping them with a wet rag, have eaten there with the locals many times, never got sick. The only thing I avoid is tap water (bottle water or RH is the preference). From so many things in life, I should be dead now.