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[QUOTE=Shark16;3007527]I am starting to feel we are beating a dead horse by now. But anyways:

Everybody can agree the prices have gone up. Not the point. Unbundling / shrinkflation? Absolutely. But your reference to the airline industry is not a good one:

You make it sound like if as long as you pay extras, you are guaranteed to get the service perfectly delivered. This is where we part ways. As many, many others have written before me many services can be given as a basic service without paying an extra. And sometimes a service will not be delivered no matter what you are paying. And no, no need to pay extra money just because she is hot, young, blond, got big boobs, or whatever. Prices can differ from girl to girl, from gent to gent, and sometimes from time to time. For the exact same services with the club's best optics.

I repeat: The going rate for me at Sharks (and most other Frankfurt clubs) is 200 E /60 (and occasionally 150 E /60) for a GFE session (without kinks, but with BJ / DATY / CFS / kissing) with one of the top optics. I may skip kissing if she asks extra for it (those girls are easy to replace anyway). With the airline analogy I would be mislead to believe I would need to pay 250- 300 or more for the same. It is simply not true. Not in my experience anyway.[/QUOTE]Yes, most best at Sharks ask less expensive than most average ones. Yes, we won't all pay same. Some Asians or tourists and some senile locals pay crazy. I don't think can get high level sex with a really pretty for 150/60 now at Sharks, except if the girl is in love. As I often wrote, don t pay extra for FK, when You will be disappointed by quality and not many are skillful for BJ. Average level really fell, but still high quality can be found. Many girls who ask too expensive for their real value, don t have busy business at Sharks, even on first Saturday of month and often free keys on desk, when girls too expensive rates make club losing business.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007544]I don't think can get high level sex with a really pretty for 150/60 now at Sharks[/QUOTE]Agreed. At least I cannot contradict that statement. Maybe someone else can? I still have a couple of regulars that will, but they work at another Hessen club.

Getting 150 E /60 seemed very hard to get on my last visit to Sharks. You have to give up on something, I believe. Personally I am willing to trade off kissing. I am not willing to trade off good looks (the visuals have to be right). Laufhaus service is neither an option to me.

I would be happy to hear stories from gents who do better than me at Sharks lately.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007566]Agreed. At least I cannot contradict that statement. Maybe someone else can? I still have a couple of regulars that will, but they work at another Hessen club.

Getting 150 E /60 seemed very hard to get on my last visit to Sharks. You have to give up on something, I believe. Personally I am willing to trade off kissing. I am not willing to trade off good looks (the visuals have to be right). Laufhaus service is neither an option to me.

I would be happy to hear stories from gents who do better than me at Sharks lately.[/QUOTE]Even without FK, if You don t know the girl since nineteenth century or she is in love with You or desperate for business or really not pretty, You should not find for 150/60 at Sharks with Romanians agreement, but You can find really good with really pretty for 100 and no rush, after her orgasmus.

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[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007506]Megan was very pretty and sweet lovely, even once she turned mad about me at Globe, telling: why do you look at me when You don't go with me anymore. Not many, almost none, on her look level most often, among 100 at Sharks except Alex. Ro and 50 at Globe except my Sylvester afternoon discovery, but she was really not on the highest level for sex, even not bad. I had many, since covid, on higher level for sex and I have at least 2 at Sharks on this year and wish a new Romanian will confirm also higher level on our discovery for 100. For me, Megan didn't have level for sex to pay 130 per 30 and less fresh at Globe where she went after listening to my experiences. Unfortunately, average level for girls and Romanians really fell, but can still find very few who are really high level, even for 100 , but not for 150/60. From where and what we are, we have different demanding level and I m happy to find higher level for sex than Megan, but not often prettier. But I only pay for among prettiest, or I prefer to leave full balls. Good for me is my best are not those asking the most expensive.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that Megan was not the best in bed, she did what she was able to. Megan excelled in looks and sweetness. She was a very nice human being which is rare for that profession.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007688]I agree with you that Megan was not the best in bed, she did what she was able to. Megan excelled in looks and sweetness. She was a very nice human being which is rare for that profession.[/QUOTE]I have met many, many tutes over the years who I would say were nice people. So much so that I conclude that trait is not rare in the world's oldest profession. I dare say that on the whole the tutes are nicer than the tricks! And definitely nicer than the pimps LOL!

[QUOTE=Turgid;3007688]I agree with you that Megan was not the best in bed, she did what she was able to. Megan excelled in looks and sweetness. She was a very nice human being which is rare for that profession.[/QUOTE]She was not bad for sex and sweet lovely, but I had many who were higher level for sex. At Sharks, Maria. Ukr was real hurricane on 2022, even too much for me, and same for Italia few weeks ago, I repeated on same day. On this year, I had 15 high level rooms at Sharks, half for 100. I had also at YY with Russia from GG for 150/60. At Globe, I understood Megan couldn't really improve for sex and she lost freshness compare to Mainhattan where she started. She will turn 30 at the end of year. I wish she has good life and is free.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3007690]I have met many, many tutes over the years who I would say were nice people. So much so that I conclude that trait is not rare in the world's oldest profession. I dare say that on the whole the tutes are nicer than the tricks![/QUOTE]Not many looks like Megan who was one of the very prettiest at Globe, when she was prettier in Germany when I discovered her at Mainhattan. And charming lovely, when charm is more and more rare, furthermore at Globe. Now, more silicon tattooed with duck lips.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007576]Even without FK, if You don t know the girl since nineteenth century or she is in love with You or desperate for business or really not pretty, You should not find for 150/60 at Sharks with Romanians agreement,[/QUOTE]Yeah, you keep repeating that as a fact. Then again, the local forum do have a few recent reports about girls at Sharks providing excellent 150 E /60 sessions. Not many. But a handful.

And they DFK without demanding an extra. They are definitively not in love with the client. Repeat business? Perhaps, but not a given. As per my own observations they are far from being "lonely and desperate", but are doing quite a good living. Possibly for a good reason. Pretty or not? Maybe not in any Top 10 list, but far from being at the bottom of the barrel. More like an averagelooking Sharks girl. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I am not saying it is easy to get a solid 150 E /60 session at Sharks (it is hard). But there are opportunities out there. Including DFK without an extra cost. For those willing to put in the effort.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007751]Yeah, you keep repeating that as a fact. Then again, the local forum do have a few recent reports about girls at Sharks providing excellent 150 E /60 sessions. Not many. But a handful.

And they DFK without demanding an extra. They are definitively not in love with the client. Repeat business? Perhaps, but not a given. As per my own observations they are far from being "lonely and desperate", but are doing quite a good living. Possibly for a good reason. Pretty or not? Maybe not in any Top 10 list, but far from being at the bottom of the barrel. More like an averagelooking Sharks girl. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Again, I am not saying it is easy to get a solid 150 E /60 session at Sharks (it is hard). But there are opportunities out there. Including DFK without an extra cost. For those willing to put in the effort.[/QUOTE]What is local forum? When on lustscout. De, they write how they pay crazy for girls who are mostly among average ones, but I don t read reports about paying 150/60 for few top girls, when they are busy and should not run for this rate, and I know some guys on this German forum, when I m as regular as many locals. Not far from 25 visits already on this year. And I would say same for most at Oase.

Yes, few very long time in business like lovely model type Sabrina and maybe business sister Alina when she doesn t drink champagne, may work good GFE for 150/60 when they are not busy, but I don t go to Sharks on Tuesday and I prefer when girls make free for me, more GFE and exciting for me. Maybe also Roxy with her long time regulars, but not a look for me. Maybe I could have gone with lovely blond Sabrina when was 50/30 . But I had other girls at World.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3007690]I have met many, many tutes over the years who I would say were nice people. So much so that I conclude that trait is not rare in the world's oldest profession. I dare say that on the whole the tutes are nicer than the tricks! And definitely nicer than the pimps LOL![/QUOTE]I have also met many who were nice people. My point was in comparison with Megan. Have you met Megan?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3007381]Normal women are very different from girls in this business behavior. Girls just starting in this business are also different. Most guys in this business are not best ones. FKK world is not real world.[/QUOTE]I'm actually more thinking about normal women than women in this business.

[QUOTE=Shark16;3007334]
I repeat, 20 years ago ALL girls would provide BBBJ / DATY / kissing included in a standard price in a 30 mnts session. They were considered standard services. Zero upsell! It did not matter if she was a new girl, repeat business, young or old, hot or not, usw. [/QUOTE]There was LESS upsell and the risk of a bad session was 50 EUR. If a girl didn't kiss, she didn't kiss and did not demand 50 EUR extra.

Re pricing: 1998 the session was 100 DM (52 EUR). So WHY should girls not demand 100 EUR now? Not pricing, service levels for 100 EUR /30 min are the issue. I am not working for the same money I made in 1998.

[QUOTE=RogueNation;3008513].....Re pricing: 1998 the session was 100 DM (52 EUR). So WHY should girls not demand 100 EUR now? Not pricing, service levels for 100 EUR /30 min are the issue. I am not working for the same money I made in 1998.[/QUOTE]I would have no problem paying EUR 100/30 now if the service was the same as you got for EUR 50/30 in 1998.