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Thanks for the number, I'll try to visit within the week. We'll see what the schedule permits. anyone have any hotels they would recommend for rest rates? Or just a comfortable place they had? I live near the sherwood but that place is pretty expensive. i just had lunch there with google and it seems to me as if it's 4-5 stars. Looking for a budget option.
Thanks in advance for suggestions
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[QUOTE=Wanpo]Thanks for the number, I'll try to visit within the week. We'll see what the schedule permits. anyone have any hotels they would recommend for rest rates? Or just a comfortable place they had? I live near the sherwood but that place is pretty expensive. i just had lunch there with google and it seems to me as if it's 4-5 stars. Looking for a budget option.
Thanks in advance for suggestions[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,
I'm new to this forum, so any help will be greatly appreciated.
I'm in Taipei for the next week and was hoping one of the other memebers could provide me with some tried and tested mamasan numbers or perhaps a contact they have?
Preference would be for a younger Taiwanese girl 20-25.
I've had a look at the Taipei Times and tried Yuki, however after the 3rd girl that I had to turn away decided to give up.
Wanpo, I've had a look at some hotels, apparently Wakiola and Deja Vu are meant to be pretty good and rest rates range start from 600-800.
Hope that helps!
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[QUOTE=Wottt]Hi Guys,
I'm new to this forum, so any help will be greatly appreciated.
I'm in Taipei for the next week and was hoping one of the other memebers could provide me with some tried and tested mamasan numbers or perhaps a contact they have?
Preference would be for a younger Taiwanese girl 20-25.
I've had a look at the Taipei Times and tried Yuki, however after the 3rd girl that I had to turn away decided to give up.
Wanpo, I've had a look at some hotels, apparently Wakiola and Deja Vu are meant to be pretty good and rest rates range start from 600-800.
Hope that helps![/QUOTE]Wott
Many senior member do not want to post detail info due to LE fears. There is much info on the forum, so RTFF. I also tried to send you a PM, but could not since you are not a true blue paying member. So given your choices, choose now.
Bnlee
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Do you know where those hotels are near?
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If you are a white guy and have just hooked up with a Taiwan-based Filipina on DIA in the last seven days, drop me a PM. That is all I care to share on the boards, so pls no questions on the public boards, only PM, thks.
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Two days ago I heard from a fairly reputable source that LE is planning to spend more time trolling the Internet for mongering-related activities. I have no idea if this will be limited to Chinese-language sites or if it will spill over here but all may want to exercise a bit of caution when meeting up with people you don't know.
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[QUOTE=Exile]Two days ago I heard from a fairly reputable source that LE is planning to spend more time trolling the Internet for mongering-related activities. I have no idea if this will be limited to Chinese-language sites or if it will spill over here but all may want to exercise a bit of caution when meeting up with people you don't know.[/QUOTE]
I know some people will complain about us veterans being too strict, however, it's for our and really your own protection. Do you think LE don't read this site and gather intel, and they are not ready to bust you when they have the chance?
Play with fire if you want, but I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.
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[QUOTE=Abc Boy]I know some people will complain about us veterans being too strict, however, it's for our and really your own protection. Do you think LE don't read this site and gather intel, and they are not ready to bust you when they have the chance?
Play with fire if you want, but I prefer to be safe rather than sorry.[/QUOTE]
I have no idea if they read this site and was just passing on what I heard. However, being that it is the most well-known and best source of info outisde of the Chinese discussion boards, I see no reason why they wouldn't. That being said, the places talked about here are fairly well-known to the general public and nobody here is making any money off the industry so this wouldn't be fruitful for the Internet police. Con men and gangsters would probably find more targets in such places than LE.
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No disrespect to any of the senior Taiwan board members but LE knows well where the foreigners monger. ISG only scratches the top of underground sites that Asian well know, particular where japanese and locals normally hang. And that's where the real money is.....
Continue to enjoy and don't worry too much ;)
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[QUOTE=Traveler1234]No disrespect to any of the senior Taiwan board members but LE knows well where the foreigners monger. ISG only scratches the top of underground sites that Asian well know, particular where japanese and locals normally hang. And that's where the real money is.....
Continue to enjoy and don't worry too much ;)[/QUOTE]
I agree with Traveler, but exercise the proper caution with either "one time wonder" brothers or any tauts that solicit you without you knowing them, just common sense really.
I have only met 3 or 4 brothers in person and these were senior members, like yourself, with thousands of post and PM ability, so that narrows the field quite a bit. While it still technically not illegal to be charged here if caught with a WG, its still wise to exercise caution.
Play hard but play safe. I think its wise if senior brothers PM any information in the future and pass on legit and safe mamas or other info.
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[QUOTE=Ragnarok42]I agree with Traveler, but exercise the proper caution with either "one time wonder" brothers or any tauts that solicit you without you knowing them, just common sense really.
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.....which was the warning was about. I believe that all but three or four people in Taiwan know about SanChong, LinSen, Ceasar's and LongShan. As Rag said, it's not like you are committing a crime, even if you are caught with a working girl. Of course, it's (nearly?) impossible to monger in Taiwan without being involved in organized crime, so some caution should always be taken. Being that Taiwan is one of the richest freebie markets you could hope for, it isn't worth the risk most of the time, unless that really is your thing.
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Second Report
Hi everyone,
Just got back from a very long business trip (China and the Middle East), could not access the forum there so have been unable to post.
But I just have to say, 500RMB to have 2 hours of full body to body wash, BBBJTC, body massage, another BBBJ, AR, finally FS PLUS GFE with a 9 girl is seriously what we need over here on the other side of the strait.
Back to Taipei and back to reality, last time I talked about Caesars, I'll focus on shinning star and my other adventures this time.
With Shinning star you basically need some serious skills to take out the girls, sadly skills which I do not have. Do not ask the managers up front about anything FS related, it would not work. You need to discuss and persuade the girls in private, having said that, I have so far been unsuccessful (ouch!). I have been there five times with 3 different girls and have not managed to take any of them out (double ouch!), leaving with only their numbers. But I will keep trying since Caesars is getting boring and KTV is a no, since I do not have anyone else to go with.
Moving on, met this person who use to be a manager at Taoyuan KTVs and he told me do not bother going to the KTVs in Taoyuan as the ones in Taipei are much better. Girls are better looking, and the price is about the same. He gave me some names of KTVs in Taipei which provide cheap and good service such as girls get completely naked and give lap dances every half an hour. He says if you go in a group of 4 the price will work out to be around 3 4k per person. Ofcourse, having said that, I do not have anyone to go with!
So I have been checking out other massage establishments around the "Big Taipei Area". So far I have been going to this particular one called xiao niang niang (little women women?). It is 1800TWD for a 2 hour massage. The girls there are between 7 8 (looks), age around 23 29. Not bad right? I've been there 6 times with 3 different girls and yes just like shinning star I have failed to take any of them out.
So to conclude, I have no skill, but then again I will keep working at it because there really is no other option out there. Now I wish I can go across the strait everyday, but then don't we all.
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[QUOTE=Hiro Nakamura]So to conclude, I have no skill, but then again I will keep working at it because there really is no other option out there. Now I wish I can go across the strait everyday, but then don't we all.[/QUOTE]
If we were naturals, we wouldn't be here. We all need to work at it but like any skill it can be developed. Mongering has been a key component of my personal growth. At the very least, just knowing that you can, or having recently, scored some p4p, makes you less desperate. Now, there are a lot of books about how to pick up girls, and lots of them are bullshit or at least not useful for me, but most of them would agree that women can detect a desperate guy from 250 meters and will run the opposite direction. I know a lot of guys who are really stuck in their interpersonal or sex lives, and I often encourage them to just go out there and buy some so they can prime the pump. Though, the USA is a particularly screwed up place when it comes to um, screwing. As the Australians like to say "I'm bloody glad we got the convicts and they got the Puritans." Anyway I wanted to point out that there are some websites with lots of PUA (Pick Up Artist) books shared over p2p torrents. If its within the rules I'll find the names of those sites. I still think a lot of the material is bad, but some of it does actually work. Gambate!
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Yuki Report
last night, i originally wanted to take another attempt at shinning star (i will succeed one of these days!), but decided to try yuki.
bought taipei times (15twd) at a 7-11, went to a motel close by the office. the rest rate is 450 twd for 2 hours. they only asked me for my id because i wanted to use my credit card.
i actually called “helen” (2784-6622) first, asked for a massage and asked if they do specials, she said no specials, just a therapeutic massage; however i think that’s because i was using mandarin.
so then i called yuki (8671-2001).
[just for everyone’s info the number for aiko is (2700-0509)]
this time i spoke in english and she immediately asked if i wanted full service or a massage (ofcourse full service!). she quoted 5000twd at first, then i said, but the going rate is 3000, no? she then agreed to 3000.
then i started to negotiate with her by saying if she sends better quality girls i may offer to pay 3500twd. she promised she would send better quality girls for 3500. 20 minutes later, knock on the door, a taiwanese girl walks in; a 7 in my opinion but as soon as she started to talk i thought ‘no’ to myself as her teeth were yellowish and her breathe was a mix of cigarettes and beer (eww~~).
sent her away, felt kind of bad since i rarely send girls away, called yuki again and asked her to send a better girl who doesn’t smoke. she said ok and another 20 minutes later in walks a 6.5, chinese girl (i really wanted a taiwanese girl).
her name was dou dou (bean bean). she was kind of cute and i really was not in the mood to wait another 20 minutes. she was fairly nice (pluses on the gfe).
we showered together, then bbbj, then fs (cowgirl, mish), pretty standard. in the middle of it her phone starts to beep and she says she’s sorry but her time is almost up. (i did not know the session was for 40mins only?!)
anyway overall it was an “okay” experience. overall damage was roughly 4.2k as i had to add extra time to my 2 hour rest.
my advice is, if you have time, you can keep sending back girls and negotiate with yuki until she sends a 9 girl at a decent price, but i did not have that much time.
next time, maybe i will just stay for the night and send back like 5 girls until i get the one i want (might be shot in the process but hey).
the search for a 9 taiwanese girl outside of ktv continues.
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[QUOTE=Hiro Nakamura]Hi everyone,
With Shinning star you basically need some serious skills to take out the girls, sadly skills which I do not have. Do not ask the managers up front about anything FS related, it would not work. You need to discuss and persuade the girls in private, having said that, I have so far been unsuccessful (ouch!). I have been there five times with 3 different girls and have not managed to take any of them out (double ouch!), leaving with only their numbers. But I will keep trying since Caesars is getting boring and KTV is a no, since I do not have anyone else to go with.
So to conclude, I have no skill, but then again I will keep working at it because there really is no other option out there. Now I wish I can go across the strait everyday, but then don't we all.
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With shining star girls here is what you need to do, in this order:
1) Find a girl you like to do FS with and do a 2-hour massage. Chat with her honestly and friendly and funny.
2) Tell her that you really enjoyed her company and would like to take her out next time, they will say yes because minimum take out is 3 hours (I think) and it's easy money (also 200 TWD more per hour). Say you like to take her out for dinner and some fun.
3) When you're out and time is almost up tell her that you are very interested in her and would like to take her for special, and tell her to name her price.
Ok, at this point here are the possible scenarios:
1) You're a moron and she doesn't like you one bit, sorry, no luck there.
2) She likes you but will try to milk you, she will say 20K TWD or something ridiculous like that.
Don't fear: say, "HA!, the going rate is $7000 TWD for a FS", and she will submit.
Not really that hard in my opinion, but shining star girls are only average face in my opinion. I rated one 8 and the rest are 7 or less.