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[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2180501]I would really love to find a place that is cheap to fly to from May through September. If someone knows, please tell me what it is. Berlin, Bogota and Bangkok certainly aren't.[/QUOTE]All depends on what you consider 'cheap'. Is $573 roundtrip to Frankfurt cheap in June? I think so. $780 to Bangkok is a tad high but if your going to wait until May to purchase flights in the summer then you deserve to pay more.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2180778]All depends on what you consider 'cheap'. Is $573 roundtrip to Frankfurt cheap in June? I think so. $780 to Bangkok is a tad high but if your going to wait until May to purchase flights in the summer then you deserve to pay more.[/QUOTE]I seen competitive Dubai fares in contrast to Frankfurt. Only 6 hrs. Flights to boot. I prefer SE Asia over Europe. I didn't like AMS. Germany was cool though.
[QUOTE=LoneWolff;2180481]It's interesting only because the airfare and hotel prices do not show any consistent and appreciable difference in prices for Hi / low / mid or whatever season. Same applies for weekdays vs weekends as well.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2180501]I would really love to find a place that is cheap to fly to from May through September. If someone knows, please tell me what it is. Berlin, Bogota and Bangkok certainly aren't.[/QUOTE]Though the difference in airfare during high and low season may not be much, but, it is still noticeable and adds up in case of a frequent flyer over a calender year. There are some useful online resources/apps based (or touted as being based) on the actual algorithms used by airlines for determining airfare that tell you the best time to book and the lowest possible fare you can get for your flight by processing the expected variation in the fare between the time you first check and the actual date of travel. If you check airfare for any random or a particular route routinely, over some period of time, you'd realize that the price fluctuation can be sudden i.e. in a matter of days and the increase can be sufficient enough to leave a bad taste in the mouth. If the resources available online are employed wisely and timely, they can help saving some extra bucks that can, instead, be utilized for that one more 'ahem'. Moreover, as they say, a penny saved is a penny earned. I'd be happy to post the links to some of these apps, but, not sure of the posting guidelines in this regard. So, kindly clarify and if interested, lemme know here or via PM. Thanks and, as always, don't forget to have fun while you're at it. Ciao!
Hi guys.
I have read of guys paying the barfine early in the night and returning later to collect the girls. I know it guarantees the girls will be there but will they go short time while waiting for you? I know there are different rates before and after 1 to 2 am and what rate would you expect to pay?
Thanks Rob.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2180828]I have read of guys paying the barfine early in the night and returning later to collect the girls. I know it guarantees the girls will be there but will they go short time while waiting for you? I know there are different rates before and after 1 to 2 am and what rate would you expect to pay?[/QUOTE]Nothing is guaranteed. Why wouldn't they go with someone else while waiting for you? They are there for money and whoever comes with the money first gets the girl. You come with 300 baht bar fine and say you will get her later. I come with 300 baht bar fine plus 2000 baht LT for her to come right then. You think she is really going to wait for you? Better for them to refund your 300. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush works both ways. Doesn't matter what rates you would expect to pay. It matters what rates are charged in that particular place.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2180828]Hi guys.
I have read of guys paying the barfine early in the night and returning later to collect the girls. I know it guarantees the girls will be there but will they go short time while waiting for you? I know there are different rates before and after 1 to 2 am and what rate would you expect to pay?
Thanks Rob.[/QUOTE]Money talks. What if some deep pocketed Arab or East Asian guy outbids you? The mamasan will give preference to regulars or groups who bar fine in bulk. If you know for certain that is the girl you want I would claim the prize immediately. Kind of like that Babe Ruth movie that bombed and when he finally got around to cashing the check it bounced. Why would you leave open the door to uncertainty. What most expats would do would be to get her number and negotiate with the girl directly and save baht. Next, you probably would have to have chemistry with that girl. You wouldn't pay and leave a new girl on the shelf. To each his own, but once money exchanges hands I expect the girl to change in her street attire and leave the premises if no room are on site. What if the bar is raided a hour before you return?
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180837]Nothing is guaranteed. Why wouldn't they go with someone else while waiting for you? They are there for money and whoever comes with the money first gets the girl. You come with 300 baht bar fine and say you will get her later. I come with 300 baht bar fine plus 2000 baht LT for her to come right then. You think she is really going to wait for you? Better for them to refund your 300. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush works both ways. Doesn't matter what rates you would expect to pay. It matters what rates are charged in that particular place.[/QUOTE]Precisely. Why would you wanna barfine anyone early on when, presumably, you'd still be bar-hopping for some time? What if the subsequent pastures are greener and someone else catches your fancy? Having a prior arrangement will definitely slow the matters with the number you actually wanna take in the end. Just my thoughts.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2180837]Nothing is guaranteed. Why wouldn't they go with someone else while waiting for you? They are there for money and whoever comes with the money first gets the girl. You come with 300 baht bar fine and say you will get her later. I come with 300 baht bar fine plus 2000 baht LT for her to come right then. You think she is really going to wait for you? Better for them to refund your 300. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush works both ways. Doesn't matter what rates you would expect to pay. It matters what rates are charged in that particular place.[/QUOTE]What if Mr. E is a regular and she likes Mr. E? YMMV. The girl could have a blast with Mr. E and do a rain check on you and make you wait for the following day if your really dead set on her and double dip. After all it is just a game for them. Or worse, she is on the 10th day of her 10 day contract and goes back to Issan the next night. What if the customer is Thai and she can do a date in her mother tongue? The smartest scenario would be getting her number and making side deals directly with the girl instead of high priced intermediaries like the bar and mamasan who only care about their commissions. If you have her line or facebook you can get hourly updates on her day whether she is eating Thai food with the ladies and out and about in the city which will dictate how you will proceed.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2180828]Hi guys.
I have read of guys paying the barfine early in the night and returning later to collect the girls. I know it guarantees the girls will be there but will they go short time while waiting for you? I know there are different rates before and after 1 to 2 am and what rate would you expect to pay?
Thanks Rob.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback guys. It all makes sense. I have met both girls before and they agreeable for a 3 way and I want to have to suit my schedule which will be tight because of only a 5 night stay, to many girls not enough time LOL. I will follow your advice and present myself early to them to show them I'm in town and carry on with my planned activities and return later to collect.
Thank Rob.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2180883]Thanks for the feedback guys. It all makes sense. I have met both girls before and they agreeable for a 3 way and I want to have to suit my schedule which will be tight because of only a 5 night stay, to many girls not enough time LOL. I will follow your advice and present myself early to them to show them I'm in town and carry on with my planned activities and return later to collect.
Thank Rob.[/QUOTE]Just remember to look at the board showing how many times they were barfined for ST before you came back so you know how much sperm was sent into their mouths. Two ST rounds requires some extra mouthwash. You'll also notice their pussy's are a bit easier to penetrate (may be a good thing if your not looking for "tonights virgin" Luckily hotels removed all the blue lights, don't want to see all of those white spots that they couldn't rinse off before you came back. And those two guys in the corner smiling at you when you leave? Those where the two lucky guys that got her for a threesome with their five other buddies before you came back. Or you could just take her out drinking with you until you head back to the room.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2181076]Just remember to look at the board showing how many times they were barfined for ST before you came back so you know how much sperm was sent into their mouths. Two ST rounds requires some extra mouthwash. You'll also notice their pussy's are a bit easier to penetrate (may be a good thing if your not looking for "tonights virgin" Luckily hotels removed all the blue lights, don't want to see all of those white spots that they couldn't rinse off before you came back. And those two Indian guys in the corner smiling at you when you leave? Those where the two lucky guys that got her for a threesome with their five other buddies before you came back. Or you could just take her out drinking with you until you head back to the room.[/QUOTE]Hi BM.
Love it! I have seen those boards now I know what mean. I will have extra strenght mouth wash with extra toothbrushes as you can never be too careful LOL. Can I get black light in Pattaya but again maybe I want to see what I'm really getting into. LOL.
I can see your meaning of why take the risk when you can take the prize but I'm a 5 night trip and while these 2 girls are scamming drinks I will be in bed with 2 others and as they say 3 is company but 5 could be a crowd. Maybe not LOL.
In general this is a risk we ake with our hobby that we may be wallowing in someone elses sperm so it's best nit to think about it.
Thanks Rob.
I have been to Pattaya few times before, but always stayed in hotel. This time I rent condo and I am looking where to buy disposable shower cap like you can find in hotels. I have looked in 7-11 and Family Mart but didn't find any. Do the larger shopping marts like Lotus and Big see carry this item. I want to have new shower cap for each time I bring lady back to condo. I search through the forum thinking I had seen this mentioned before but I didn't find the post.
Thank you for any assistance.
Rob.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2180828]I know it guarantees the girls will be there but will they go short time while waiting for you? I know there are different rates before and after 1 to 2 am and what rate would you expect to pay?[/QUOTE]At a gogo bar, you will always pay the higher pre-midnight barfine rate if you want to barfine a girl before midnight to be picked up after midnight.
I'm going to disagree about a guarantee. If a regular customer comes in that the bar or girl knows, she is going to bail on you if she doesn't know you. The bar will give you the barfine back and tell you the girl got sick. They will try to convince you to take another girl first.
[QUOTE=Roaming Rob 1;2182352] Do the larger shopping marts like Lotus and Big C carry this item. I want to have new shower cap for each time I bring lady back to condo.[/QUOTE]Walk in to any hotel and ask the housekeeping person if you can have a couple of shower caps. It helps if you're wearing a bathrobe! Seriously, Big C and Tesco should both have them. Maybe Watson's or Boots? Central store in Central Festival?
[QUOTE=Breadman;2179738]This was a general question mainly about the talent level and the amount of customers the girls are getting.[/QUOTE]Both March and May 2018 have been amazing at the gogo bars. I'll give the edge for talent in May, 2018 over March, 2018. Walking Street talent is very high now. Clubs seem a bit quieter for guys now too but not too noticeable yet.
Clubs on the rise. Sharks has done an amazing job recruiting. Still many uglies but lineup has improved significantly with a couple of gems. More of the natural Thai looking girls. Eden Club is getting better too. Still a ways to go and not many girls but improving.
Clubs sliding. Ninja in LK Metro. Actually, LK Metro in general. I predict LK Metro to be mainly a beer bar place in 2 to 3 years. Old Farang prefer sitting outside drinking cheap beers.
Gogo bar closures. Annabelle and Maxim on Walking Street. I think Chaos (not to be confused with Kaos which is still there) was gone in LK Metro too.
Hi.
Thanks for your imput. I will take your advice and pay for the girls when ready. Tooth brushes I think of but shower caps! I'm trying to remember if any got used last trip and I am sure no girl asked for one LOL.
I hit Pattaya next Sunday and I am happy to hear the talent pool is improving.
Thank to everyone who has answered my questions and those who contribute.
Thanks Rob.
Soi 6 the price was always 1000 Baht including room and you can still get that from a lot of girls there. Only a couple of years ago they tried to make it 1000 + 300 for room in a lot of places, or + 400 in the Nightwish bars. Meanwhile the Thai brothels were always 500 Baht and they're still 500 Baht now. Why are prices up only for foreigners? Because it's mostly tourists not used to the norms of Asia and they pay the fee plus extra then go home and forget about it all.
Not me. I don't mind paying 5000 in a nice soapy but I'm not paying 300 for a "room" on Soi 6. Just don't have to. You can say you're paying 1000 and that's it. If they like it they take it. If not, move on. I paid 1000 all in at two bars on Soi 6 this week, not much trouble at all. Just told them I'm paying 1000 and not 1300. At the first place they just accepted it. At the second, the manager tried negotiating before agreeing to wave the 300 fee since I already bought two drinks.
There are probably 1000+ girls on Soi 6, plus however many guys dressed like girls. There's no reason to pay a 40 percent premium for any of them.