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[QUOTE=Tuber19;2613056]You need to spend more, for 50 euro its only suck and fuck with most of the girls, many will not accept 50/30 minutes.
About girls names, you can read the forum and you will see that there are many girls for each guy, if you can spend more, you will be happier. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I was there this week, 50/30 is still doable with some pretty girls. But now most will ask 100/30 for the same service, this is scam.
This sure hurts Sharks mgmt as well, because they make money mostly from the entrance fees. So they may decide to ban some expensive ladies at their will.
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2613228]I was there this week, 50/30 is still doable with some pretty girls. But now most will ask 100/30 for the same service, this is scam.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2613228]I was there this week, 50/30 is still doable with some pretty girls. But now most will ask 100/30 for the same service, this is scam.[/QUOTE]I was at Oase last week and plan to go to Sharks this week. 50/30 is certainly doable but some women outright refuse it, or you won't get the best service. 100/30 is most certainly outrageous, but supply and demand still trumps all. If this is a pretty woman you want to shag, money doesn't matter. Also if she doesn't "like you" then there's a clear incentive for her to want to overcharge, seeing if you will actually pay for it. I've seen the Lamborghinis parked outside the FKKs, these are the clients we're "bidding" against when it comes to prices. And the average Joe is sadly losing the battle.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but women do understand how many clients they can get per day and when they can demand a certain price. It's also about ego, for some reason charging less hurts their "pride."
I absolutely loathe monger inflation and overcharging, especially when you don't know what type of service you're going to get in the bedroom from a woman you haven't taken before. Hell in Thailand, 100 euros gets you the entire night, not a damn hour. But at the end of the day, if we could normally shag these women for free off a dating app or from a date at a cafe, we probably wouldn't be there paying for it.
I've mongered in many countries. I've negotiated and haggled many times. At the end of the day, it's still a very expensive hobby regardless of who is charging what.
[QUOTE=Kuni042;2613406]This sure hurts Sharks mgmt as well, because they make money mostly from the entrance fees. So they may decide to ban some expensive ladies at their will.[/QUOTE]They did temper some of these rates back in 2017/2018 because business sufferred. However, at this moment, when there are so few quality club options and the hoards of young customers still pack the doors in the evenings, I feel that hoping for a repeat is wishful thinking. Perhaps in time, but not so long as the former working girls in Romania stay home and while the ones still in Germany have switched over to private bookings.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2613414]I was at Oase last week and plan to go to Sharks this week. 50/30 is certainly doable but some women outright refuse it, or you won't get the best service. 100/30 is most certainly outrageous, but supply and demand still trumps all. If this is a pretty woman you want to shag, money doesn't matter. Also if she doesn't "like you" then there's a clear incentive for her to want to overcharge, seeing if you will actually pay for it. I've seen the Lamborghinis parked outside the FKKs, these are the clients we're "bidding" against when it comes to prices. And the average Joe is sadly losing the battle.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but women do understand how many clients they can get per day and when they can demand a certain price. It's also about ego, for some reason charging less hurts their "pride."
I absolutely loathe monger inflation and overcharging, especially when you don't know what type of service you're going to get in the bedroom from a woman you haven't taken before. Hell in Thailand, 100 euros gets you the entire night, not a damn hour. But at the end of the day, if we could normally shag these women for free off a dating app or from a date at a cafe, we probably wouldn't be there paying for it.
I've mongered in many countries. I've negotiated and haggled many times. At the end of the day, it's still a very expensive hobby regardless of who is charging what.[/QUOTE]OK, money does not matter, but cheap sex is part of the FKK's ecosystem, we are killing it.
Develop self-esteem, be assertive with 50/30 is like planting trees.
Seriously, you can still accept to be scammed with 100/150 once in a while but not establish a new norm when it comes to shag a desirable club girl!
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2613601]OK, money does not matter, but cheap sex is part of the FKK's ecosystem, we are killing it.
Develop self-esteem, be assertive with 50/30 is like planting trees.
Seriously, you can still accept to be scammed with 100/150 once in a while but not establish a new norm when it comes to shag a desirable club girl![/QUOTE]I prefer to pay 150/60 and less expensive for me to enjoy a rare beauty who is good for me in bed rather than 100 for a average look I don t want to pay for. But of course I prefer my elegant natural for 100/60 and my best in bed. Can find girls for 100/60 like Cristina, charming cat eyes Roxana, even German Daisi, even no wow for look and quite average in bed.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2613414]I was at Oase last week and plan to go to Sharks this week. 50/30 is certainly doable but some women outright refuse it, or you won't get the best service. 100/30 is most certainly outrageous, but supply and demand still trumps all. If this is a pretty woman you want to shag, money doesn't matter. Also if she doesn't "like you" then there's a clear incentive for her to want to overcharge, seeing if you will actually pay for it. I've seen the Lamborghinis parked outside the FKKs, these are the clients we're "bidding" against when it comes to prices. And the average Joe is sadly losing the battle.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but women do understand how many clients they can get per day and when they can demand a certain price. It's also about ego, for some reason charging less hurts their "pride."
I absolutely loathe monger inflation and overcharging, especially when you don't know what type of service you're going to get in the bedroom from a woman you haven't taken before. Hell in Thailand, 100 euros gets you the entire night, not a damn hour. But at the end of the day, if we could normally shag these women for free off a dating app or from a date at a cafe, we probably wouldn't be there paying for it.
I've mongered in many countries. I've negotiated and haggled many times. At the end of the day, it's still a very expensive hobby regardless of who is charging what.[/QUOTE]A very good summary. Truth is, when you get to have sex with a really attractive girl who would be out of reach completely now in a bar / club (which for most guys on this forum is the reality), then there is a price to pay. I have great sympathy with the lucky guys who have frequented FKKs for many years (as they are no doubt logistically close) who believe part of the FKK experience is lots of cheap sex. But it's gone. It's been going for some time. I loved the days in Samya at 50/30 then 25/30 for every extra 30 you took. But it's a long time ago. The world has changed. Mongering has changed. These girls made no money at all during the pandemic. They are trying to recover their financial losses. It's still worth paying 150/ hour for a very sexy girl. I was in Sharks / Mainhattan / Palace and Oase recently. Whilst I too encountered 100/30 for the best looking girls (and some who were not), it is the case that you can still find some at 50/30, particularly if they know you, think you'll repeat. But I didn't have a single girl refuse me 150/ hour. So it's not really 100/30 unless you want only 30 minutes. It's really 75/30 times 2! And an extra 30 minutes over your 100/30 cost you exactly the same as you paid before - 50! So whilst prices have increased (and very significantly in percentage terms) it is indeed supply and demand. And FKK mongering still represents the best I have experienced.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2613661]A very good summary. Truth is, when you get to have sex with a really attractive girl who would be out of reach completely now in a bar / club (which for most guys on this forum is the reality), then there is a price to pay. I have great sympathy with the lucky guys who have frequented FKKs for many years (as they are no doubt logistically close) who believe part of the FKK experience is lots of cheap sex. But it's gone. It's been going for some time. I loved the days in Samya at 50/30 then 25/30 for every extra 30 you took. But it's a long time ago. The world has changed. Mongering has changed. These girls made no money at all during the pandemic. They are trying to recover their financial losses. It's still worth paying 150/ hour for a very sexy girl. I was in Sharks / Mainhattan / Palace and Oase recently. Whilst I too encountered 100/30 for the best looking girls (and some who were not), it is the case that you can still find some at 50/30, particularly if they know you, think you'll repeat. But I didn't have a single girl refuse me 150/ hour. So it's not really 100/30 unless you want only 30 minutes. It's really 75/30 times 2! And an extra 30 minutes over your 100/30 cost you exactly the same as you paid before - 50! So whilst prices have increased (and very significantly in percentage terms) it is indeed supply and demand. And FKK mongering still represents the best I have experienced.[/QUOTE]Better than CDS?
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2613661]It's still worth paying 150/ hour for a very sexy girl. I was in Sharks / Mainhattan / Palace and Oase recently. Whilst I too encountered 100/30 for the best looking girls (and some who were not), it is the case that you can still find some at 50/30, particularly if they know you, think you'll repeat. But I didn't have a single girl refuse me 150/ hour. So it's not really 100/30 unless you want only 30 minutes. It's really 75/30 times 2! And an extra 30 minutes over your 100/30 cost you exactly the same as you paid before - 50! So whilst prices have increased (and very significantly in percentage terms) it is indeed supply and demand. And FKK mongering still represents the best I have experienced.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback! Given that I may only have one night at Sharks, and I don't know when I'll return again, I'll make the most of the experience. So, I'll budget three girls at 150/ hour (the most attractive ones), and see if I can get one or two for 50/30. I'll also have enough for two girls at the 100/30 price point if it's the end of the night, and I'm too tired for a full hour.
Also, I'm not looking for romance or elegance. I want the pick the sexiest women in the club and fuck them hard until I cum in their mouths. If 150/ hour is the price point, then I'll gladly spend that. I can get romance and elegance in my civilian life.
I'll read through the forum and put together my hit list of girls I want to session with. I think I'll target blonde girls with blue eyes because I'll have a taste for that in December.
[QUOTE=Atanion;2613729]Thanks for the feedback! Given that I may only have one night at Sharks, and I don't know when I'll return again, I'll make the most of the experience. So, I'll budget three girls at 150/ hour (the most attractive ones), and see if I can get one or two for 50/30. I'll also have enough for two girls at the 100/30 price point if it's the end of the night, and I'm too tired for a full hour.
Also, I'm not looking for romance or elegance. I want the pick the sexiest women in the club and fuck them hard until I cum in their mouths. If 150/ hour is the price point, then I'll gladly spend that. I can get romance and elegance in my civilian life.
I'll read through the forum and put together my hit list of girls I want to session with. I think I'll target blonde girls with blue eyes because I'll have a taste for that in December.[/QUOTE]When you make the list can you share it?
[QUOTE=Atanion;2613729]So, I'll budget three girls at 150/ hour (the most attractive ones), and see if I can get one or two for 50/30. I'll also have enough for two girls at the 100/30 price point if it's the end of the night, and I'm too tired for a full hour.
Also, I'm not looking for romance or elegance. I want the pick the sexiest women in the club and fuck them hard until I cum in their mouths. If 150/ hour is the price point, then I'll gladly spend that[/QUOTE]You won't be cumming in their mouths for 150/ hour. CIM has always been extra. It's not changed. Expect to pay the extra 50 on top of the 150/ hour for that.
Chicken and egg paradox here.
Finally the price inflation is caused by the tourists, not the loverboys.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2613761]You won't be cumming in their mouths for 150/ hour. CIM has always been extra. It's not changed. Expect to pay the extra 50 on top of the 150/ hour for that.[/QUOTE]Can find 100/30 with CIM. CIM is extra 50, anal is 100, in Hessen.
[QUOTE=GuyBrusg1957;2613755]When you make the list can you share it?[/QUOTE]Rather than following others list, so much better to choose with own eyes and mind. Each time, I'm informed about a beauty: Charlotte at Prestige, so disappointing look. Small misery for German Sami in RTC. I wait to see a German who worked in Switzerland. Maybe I m a bad follower but better to make my own way.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2613648]I prefer to pay 150/60 and less expensive for me to enjoy a rare beauty who is good for me in bed rather than 100 for a average look I don t want to pay for. But of course I prefer my elegant natural for 100/60 and my best in bed. Can find girls for 100/60 like Cristina, charming cat eyes Roxana, even German Daisi, even no wow for look and quite average in bed.[/QUOTE]At least, Daisi. De is fresh natural, milky skin, blond, but average teeth and face. Except her and long time, full tattooed back Lara. De, other Germans are silicon, when some really beautiful naturals at Sharks, masterpiece for Beatrice, impressive for Brenda, beautiful and telling truth from her hardening nipples for supermodel as I tell her: You can't lie, they tell.