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[QUOTE=ThreeInches;2915224]TOf course the phone will still continue to work in the philippines without issue, might just have to use a new phone for the home country and old faithful for philippines.[/QUOTE]Sorry?? I was under the impression that 3 G services were all ready withdrawn in PI. Is it still active?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2915339]Sorry?? I was under the impression that 3 G services were all ready withdrawn in PI. Is it still active?[/QUOTE]If you have a 3 g phone it will still work if the 2 G network is active just lower data speeds like going back to 1991, phasing out 2 g or even 3 g will take a very long time or may never happen in the philippines, we are talking decades to phase out 2 g in the philippines and 3 g is still operational in the provence due to 2 g-3 g reliability vs 4 g and 5 g. The towers they use in the provence are pretty shit and you can still get 2 g and 3 g signals. The banks still use 3 G in the philippines in the ATM's. There is no way they can phase out 2 G in the philippines, too many devices need this and I have not heard any plans to phase out 2 g at all in the philippines as VoLTE propagation is extremely low. So they still nesd 2 G for basic services which means your dinosaur phone although crippled data speed will still work in provence most likely until everyone who reads this has died. A lot like divorce I think phils will be the last 2 G holdout.

[URL]https://mb.com.ph/2023/10/23/the-great-switch-from-2-g-to-5-g[/URL] this talks about how "Certain services today, like telecare facilities and payment terminals still rely on 2 G or 3 G connectivity. " its just not possible for phils to drop these towers due to them propping up this unique infrastructure.

[QUOTE=ThreeInches;2915418]If you have a 3 g phone it will still work if the 2 G network is active just lower data speeds like going back to 1991, phasing out 2 g or even 3 g will take a very long time [/QUOTE]Many thanks. The info is greatly appreciated.

I don't need speed. 90% of the time I'll be on hotel wifi. Outside it's just WhatsApp messages and the occasional Google maps.

Thanks again, G.

Esteemed fellow mongers.

On my last PH trip, I happened to spend two weeks with the same girl in Manila. On my next trip (probably 4 weeks), I am tempted to take her somewhere that's not Manila. I would like somewhere cheaper, beachier and quieter. And ideally not a family-oriented place, or a place full of young foreigners haha. It shouldn't be too onerous to reach from Manila; flights and buses are both okay, long ferry trips less so. At the same time, I am okay with there also being at least a few commercial distractions (I. E. Malls, movie theaters, food, possibly a hotel pool etc.).

The girl is from Mindanao but lives in Manila now. I am hesitant to propose to her that we go to her part of the country, as I don't see any upside to involving her family.

Only place I've ever even visited outside of Manila has been Puerto Galera, which was okay, but a bit much. In other words, it doesn't have to be a mongering destination, as I will be bringing my own. She does have what I assume is a real passport in case there's any obvious spots outside PH.

So where do I take this girl? Cebu? Bohol? Subic? Dumaguete? Iloilo / Guimaras? Somewhere on Leyte or Samar?

Am I making a grave mistake even considering this? Generally I try not to get committed in any way, but given the good experience last year, I figured I'd give her another shot before she turns 20 and ages out of my target group. It doesn't have to be 4 weeks, could just be 3 or 2.

As usual, I am forever grateful for the advice offered on this forum!

[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2916933]Esteemed fellow mongers.

On my last PH trip, I happened to spend two weeks with the same girl in Manila. On my next trip (probably 4 weeks), I am tempted to take her somewhere that's not Manila. I would like somewhere cheaper, beachier and quieter. And ideally not a family-oriented place, or a place full of young foreigners haha. It shouldn't be too onerous to reach from Manila; flights and buses are both okay, long ferry trips less so. At the same time, I am okay with there also being at least a few commercial distractions (I. E. Malls, movie theaters, food, possibly a hotel pool etc.).

The girl is from Mindanao but lives in Manila now. I am hesitant to propose to her that we go to her part of the country, as I don't see any upside to involving her family.

Only place I've ever even visited outside of Manila has been Puerto Galera, which was okay, but a bit much. In other words, it doesn't have to be a mongering destination, as I will be bringing my own. She does have what I assume is a real passport in case there's any obvious spots outside PH.

So where do I take this girl? Cebu? Bohol? Subic? Dumaguete? Iloilo / Guimaras? Somewhere on Leyte or Samar?

Am I making a grave mistake even considering this? Generally I try not to get committed in any way, but given the good experience last year, I figured I'd give her another shot before she turns 20 and ages out of my target group. It doesn't have to be 4 weeks, could just be 3 or 2.

As usual, I am forever grateful for the advice offered on this forum![/QUOTE]"I figured I'd give her another shot before she turns 20 and ages out of my target group. ".

You sound like a perv.

[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2916933]On my last PH trip, I happened to spend two weeks with the same girl in Manila. On my next trip (probably 4 weeks), I am tempted to take her somewhere that's not Manila. I would like somewhere cheaper, beachier and quieter. And ideally not a family-oriented place, or a place full of young foreigners haha. It shouldn't be too onerous to reach from Manila; flights and buses are both okay, long ferry trips less so. At the same time, I am okay with there also being at least a few commercial distractions (I. E. Malls, movie theaters, food, possibly a hotel pool etc.).[/QUOTE]Puerto Princesa.

I would recommend El Nido, or maybe even Boracay (problem with Boracay is that it only has the beach). Those places might have too many foreigners for your taste, but the average age level is not too young.

You can fly from Manila to Puerto Princesa, and then you can take a shuttle to El Nido. Then you can fly from El Nido to either Manila or Clark.

[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2916933]Esteemed fellow mongers.

Only place I've ever even visited outside of Manila has been Puerto Galera, which was okay, but a bit much. In other words, it doesn't have to be a mongering destination, as I will be bringing my own.

So where do I take this girl? Cebu? Bohol? Subic? Dumaguete? Iloilo / Guimaras? Somewhere on Leyte or Samar?[/QUOTE]Mate, try Bantayan Island in Cebu. A bit of a hike to get there, but well worth the visit for a romantic gig, extremely relaxing, better than Boracay (in my opinion) and not your typical girly scene. As always, proceed with caution and don't do your balls over her until you know for sure it's reciprocal. Just saying. Phil.

For those who thought encrypted apps were safe.

[URL]https://theintercept.com/2024/05/22/whatsapp-security-vulnerability-meta-israel-palestine/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=The%20Intercept%20Newsletter[/URL]

Hi Guys,

This might be a bit 'out there' but I'm looking for a good phone app that translates Tagalog to English.

Although my Tagalog is getting better with every and numerous visits, it would be nice in some situations where you can work out what they're saying about you:).

Therefore something incognito. For instance if you've got a girl in your room and she's talking to someone on her phone, sometimes it would be nice to know what she's saying.

I've downloaded one which is pretty good but it repeats the English out loud once it translates rather than just writing the text on your screen, which is a bit of a give-away.

A few years back I ended up with a Chinese girl for the night and her English was non-existent (great root though) and she had a similar app to what I'm after and it was our only means of communication, which was great.

Thanks in advance _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2917996]Hi Guys,

This might be a bit 'out there' but I'm looking for a good phone app that translates Tagalog to English.

Thanks in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Can't help with a specific app. However you can just turn your phone volume down so that your current translator won't say the English words aloud.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2917996]Hi Guys,

This might be a bit 'out there' but I'm looking for a good phone app that translates Tagalog to English...[/QUOTE]Good luck but you might struggle to find something that actually works. I don't know too many Asian girls that speak 100% Tagalog, Thai, Bahasa etc when talking amongst themselves. Its always a fucked up spanglish of Tagalog, English and slang often with some local dialect (s) thrown in for good measure.

The only exception is Visayans who are proud of their heritage and really promote the use of Bisaya.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2918045]Can't help with a specific app. However you can just turn your phone volume down so that your current translator won't say the English words aloud.[/QUOTE]What about using airpods (or a like device) during such activities?

N_R.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2918045]Can't help with a specific app. However you can just turn your phone volume down so that your current translator won't say the English words aloud.[/QUOTE]Thanks Westie, you're a fucking genius and why the hell didn't I think of that. The I'm sure there's better apps out there than the one I have. I was just a late starter with mobile / cell phones which are now mini computers. I spend most of my time on a laptop for my business.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2918086]Good luck but you might struggle to find something that actually works. I don't know too many Asian girls that speak 100% Tagalog, Thai, Bahasa etc when talking amongst themselves. Its always a fucked up spanglish of Tagalog, English and slang often with some local dialect (s) thrown in for good measure..[/QUOTE]Thanks G. The app I've experimented with does do a fairly good job of translating. At least you get a basic idea of what they're chatting about. And the Talagog I've got hold of, was lost on me in parts of Cebu. When you've got three girls rubbing you up in a bar it would be nice to know exactly what they're saying. However, when I've generally been in this situation without knowing what they're saying, I then spit out a line like "gusto ko kayong lahat" ie: "I'd like to fuck all of you" and I get the shock, horror look from them all, thinking "Fuck, he speaks Tagalog and can understand us." Phil.

[QUOTE=Nite_Runner;2918134]What about using airpods (or a like device) during such activities?.[/QUOTE]Hi NR, thanks for the tip but airpods are just an other thing for me to get familiar with. I also find them to be a bit of a turn-off when someone's using / wearing them. I find the attention seems to be elsewhere of the people using them. However, I'm sure there's a similar solution as you suggest. Phil.

I has been a very long time, so I do have a few questions. And yes, I will continue to RTFF.

History first:

The US Navy introduced me to Subic Bay in 1978. That was when I started my long mongering career. Being on ships, we spent quite a bit of time in the Subic Bay; I loved the place.

In 1991, my ship was in Subic Bay during the eruption of Mount Pinatubo. Both bases were destroyed and we helped evacuate the military families.

Now I am headed back and looking forward to a new experience.

My itinerary:

Malina – Three nights at New Coast Hotel.

AC – Six nights at ABC Hotel.

Olonapo – Two nights (no hotel yet).

Questions:

What are your thoughts on my itinerary?

Is private transportation available to and from the cities I selected?

BTW, are there and midgets available? (asking for a friend).

Thanks to all in advance.

Tijuana.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2918482]What are your thoughts on my itinerary?

Is private transportation available to and from the cities I selected?

BTW, are there and midgets available? (asking for a friend).

Thanks to all in advance.[/QUOTE]Hi Tom, firstly thanks for your service. Much appreciated. As for your itinerary, I'm sure you'll have a decent time in all places, though they would have definitely changed since your last visit. I plan a different itinerary on every trip, apart from starting and ending with business in Manila. I personally try to seek out a new location every now and then and if it doesn't work out, I'll know not to return or try somewhere else next time. Yes, you'll find private transport in all areas at a reasonable price. As for the midgets, I can't help you with that one. But it is The Philippines and anything can happen. Phil.

Timeframe seems fine in terms of nights in each city.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2918482]Malina Three nights at New Coast Hotel.[/QUOTE]What market are you hitting here, LA Cafe? An alternative might be Makati / Burgos.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2918482]Is private transportation available to and from the cities I selected?[/QUOTE]Yes. Consider Beeway Travel, located on Fields Ave in AC, near the old Camelot gogo bar. Cost for pickup most anywhere in the NCR (airport, your hotel, etc) and then direct to your hotel in AC (or the reverse), is p3500 cash. They are a tour and travel agency (and tourist Immigration services), and I'm sure they can get you to Subic / Olangapo also.

[url]https://www.facebook.com/beewaytravelandtours/[/url]

[EMAIL]Beewaytravel@gmail.com[/EMAIL] and [EMAIL]beewaytravel@yahoo.com[/EMAIL].

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2918482]

Questions:

What are your thoughts on my itinerary?

Is private transportation available to and from the cities I selected?

BTW, are there and midgets available? (asking for a friend).

Thanks to all in advance.

Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Your itinerary is fine. My only comment is that all the places named are love or hate them so book refundable tickets so that you can extend or depart as you want.

Subic / Barrios Barreto is one long road. It's a long walk from one end to the other. Normal transport is available during the day or a trike mafia at night. If you are a walker, like me, just book at one end and you will be able to go door to door.

Inter city transport is widely available: busses, taxis, hire car. ABC even has a heli pad.

There are a few midgets around, working security. I'm sure if your friend 😜 asked nicely, they would have little friends.

I liked your photos. Boat delivery adds a whole new meaning to outcall. Feel free to add some more if you have them.

Enjoy your return trip. I'm sure some things will have changed drastically and some will still be the same.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2918823]I liked your photos. Boat delivery adds a whole new meaning to outcall. Feel free to add some more if you have them.
[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information. I feel that we have crossed mongering paths before. Here are some more pics from 1991.

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2919000]Thank you for the information. I feel that we have crossed mongering paths before. Here are some more pics from 1991.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Could be. '78 was well before my time but '91 is closer to my vintage. I remember hearing about Pinatubo at the time. I was in Asia but not Philippines.

With our emergency services, insurance, relief packages etc, it's easy to underestimate the ongoing devastation that natural disasters can cause elsewhere. I was in Sabang when a typhoon passed directly over head. Power, water etc were turned off the day before, to stop houses burning down etc and weren't turned back on in some places for literally months. There are many similar stories around earthquakes etc.

Cheers. G.

I am hoping to make a trip to BKK later in the year, and it occurred to me to do a stop over for a few days in the Philippines. One reason is that there are direct flights from LOS Angeles to Manila that are about 14 hours. Most connecting flights to BKK total about 24 hours which is brutal. I haven't made a good plan yet, but thinking of trying 2 or 3 places possibly Makati, Angeles, Subik or possibly an island that has some limited action. I know RTFF is always the suggestion, but this will take weeks of research. I think RedCat may be out of date, so I would trust you pro mongers for advice. A week to 10 days, an area that has good selection within a reasonable walk or ride. My last trip to BKK was mostly a disappointment, but I am familiar with it at least and hope to have better luck this time around. Any suggestions appreciated!

Stan.

[QUOTE=OneNightStan;2919299]I am hoping to make a trip to BKK later in the year, and it occurred to me to do a stop over for a few days in the Philippines. One reason is that there are direct flights from LOS Angeles to Manila that are about 14 hours. Most connecting flights to BKK total about 24 hours which is brutal. I haven't made a good plan yet, but thinking of trying 2 or 3 places possibly Makati, Angeles, Subik or possibly an island that has some limited action. I know RTFF is always the suggestion, but this will take weeks of research. I think RedCat may be out of date, so I would trust you pro mongers for advice. A week to 10 days, an area that has good selection within a reasonable walk or ride. My last trip to BKK was mostly a disappointment, but I am familiar with it at least and hope to have better luck this time around. Any suggestions appreciated!

Stan.[/QUOTE]As you still have plenty of weeks to research, it would really help if you did RTFF about the places you mentioned, then come back with questions about specific issues you may have.

[QUOTE=OneNightStan;2919299]I am hoping to make a trip to BKK later in the year, and it occurred to me to do a stop over for a few days in the Philippines. One reason is that there are direct flights from LOS Angeles to Manila that are about 14 hours. Most connecting flights to BKK total about 24 hours which is brutal. I haven't made a good plan yet, but thinking of trying 2 or 3 places possibly Makati, Angeles, Subik or possibly an island that has some limited action. I know RTFF is always the suggestion, but this will take weeks of research. I think RedCat may be out of date, so I would trust you pro mongers for advice. A week to 10 days, an area that has good selection within a reasonable walk or ride. My last trip to BKK was mostly a disappointment, but I am familiar with it at least and hope to have better luck this time around. Any suggestions appreciated!

Stan.[/QUOTE]Makati, AC and Subic are all point and shoot, if you're not too fussy, then you will be having fun for the whole time you are there. Remember though that you will loose a day round trip just getting to each. That leaves you with only 2 days at each getting your rocks off.

Throw in a nice beach or something similarly out of the way and your travel time increases as does the time to find a suitable girl. You could easily be down to one or even no meaningful sessions.

Only you can decide if you prefer to see a few different places but not achieve much at each or if you want to stay at one or two and do more.

Enjoy. G.

Your going to move to the Philippines or any other country a big mistake I've seen many here make is not renewing their passport to get a full ten years. Yes guys keep a mailing address like a brother etc but don't realize a passport that's good for 3 more years can still be renewed early. Last thing you want to do is arrive at your new home and have to travel to the embassy and deal with all of that extra paperwork.

[QUOTE=OneNightStan;2919299]I am hoping to make a trip to BKK later in the year, and it occurred to me to do a stop over for a few days in the Philippines. One reason is that there are direct flights from LOS Angeles to Manila that are about 14 hours. Most connecting flights to BKK total about 24 hours which is brutal. I haven't made a good plan yet, but thinking of trying 2 or 3 places possibly Makati, Angeles, Subik or possibly an island that has some limited action. I know RTFF is always the suggestion, but this will take weeks of research. I think RedCat may be out of date, so I would trust you pro mongers for advice. A week to 10 days, an area that has good selection within a reasonable walk or ride. My last trip to BKK was mostly a disappointment, but I am familiar with it at least and hope to have better luck this time around. Any suggestions appreciated!

Stan.[/QUOTE]To be straight forward with you. If you are too lazy to rtff and BKK was a disappointment then don't bother coming to Philippines. BKK is much easier than Philippines to monger.

Cops got busted in kidnapping.

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/philippine-police-kidnapping-tourists-fb3bc4cf8ca252d6fbcb744681334dd9[/URL]

[QUOTE=TomJackin;2918482]

My itinerary:

Malina Three nights at New Coast Hotel.

AC Six nights at ABC Hotel.

Olonapo Two nights (no hotel yet).

Questions:

What are your thoughts on my itinerary?

[/QUOTE]Sounds good, but why the short stay? Most of the western girly bar action is in Barrio Barretto where you'll find many retired military expats. Central Park Reef is across from Mo's (Dave) Maze bars which are quite popular especially on Fridays when they have their Son's of Bacchus (SOB) weekly party.

[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2920586]Sounds good, but why the short stay? Most of the western girly bar action is in Barrio Barretto where you'll find many retired military expats. Central Park Reef is across from Mo's (Dave) Maze bars which are quite popular especially on Fridays when they have their Son's of Bacchus (SOB) weekly party.[/QUOTE]I recently added on another night. I will be at the Central Park Reef for 3 nights. Thanks for the information.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2919871]Your going to move to the Philippines or any other country a big mistake I've seen many here make is not renewing their passport to get a full ten years. Yes guys keep a mailing address like a brother etc but don't realize a passport that's good for 3 more years can still be renewed early. Last thing you want to do is arrive at your new home and have to travel to the embassy and deal with all of that extra paperwork.[/QUOTE]Not all countries can renew early. Canadians can only renew in last year of old passport.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2920447]Cops got busted in kidnapping.

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/philippine-police-kidnapping-tourists-fb3bc4cf8ca252d6fbcb744681334dd9[/URL][/QUOTE]This kind of thing is almost never random in this case a well known KFR (kidnap for ransom) gang.

They usually target people in and around POGO hubs this is mostly how the crooked police get involved and why these are almost exclusively Chinese Taiwanese Korean and Malaysian. These people pay the ransom and go on with their lives they make sure that these guys are not totally clean but also have the wealth to pay a 1-2 million pesos ransom. Which is about 20-40 thousands dollars.

It is highly unlikely that they would target an american. Americans first call would be to the embassy Chinese won't do this. Since the Chinese are going to the philippines for POGO activity they will most likely decline embassy assistance and the likelihood of the embassy actually helping them is slim to none. I'm sure they go in ready with transactions and amounts of money the chinese have on hand due to POGO Anti-Money Laundering requirements so they go in well prepared and well informed because they have dossier on these people already.

This news article is more like don't get involved in POGO activity which most mongers I'm sure do not take part in. If you don't want to be held for ransom in the philippines don't go wander off in the south to find abu sayyaf and don't gamble.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2920845]Not all countries can renew early. Canadians can only renew in last year of old passport.[/QUOTE]Report it as "lost". Then apply for a replacement?

[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2921209]Report it as "lost". Then apply for a replacement?[/QUOTE]Much more difficult to get a replacement for a lost passport. (Especially in Afghanistan but that is another story. LOL).

[QUOTE=Breadman;2919871]Your going to move to the Philippines or any other country a big mistake I've seen many here make is not renewing their passport to get a full ten years. Yes guys keep a mailing address like a brother etc but don't realize a passport that's good for 3 more years can still be renewed early. Last thing you want to do is arrive at your new home and have to travel to the embassy and deal with all of that extra paperwork.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2920845]Not all countries can renew early. Canadians can only renew in last year of old passport.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2921209]Report it as "lost". Then apply for a replacement?[/QUOTE]US passport renewal info, news. This first link is a news article. The article states that there is a new US gov website (second link) that is in beta mode, offering online tourist US passport renewals. There are some limitations outlined in the article, copy / pasted* here. Not sure how / if this applies to US fellas living overseas yet. The system is in beta and will change over time. Even if you live in Phils, many of us have a US residence (family) where they might be able to have a new PP sent to (fam can send it to you via UPS or such in Phils). This is the standard 8-week turnaround, not for emergency renewal. It might be easier to apply for a new PP thru the US Embassy in Manila. Cost is the standard $130 USD for any new or replacement PP.

[URL]https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/online-passport-renewal-now-available-211252703.html[/URL]

[I]To qualify for online passport renewals, applicants must:

* Have an existing USA Passport that was issued no more than 15 years prior to the new application date. It must still be in the applicant's possession, and not previously reported lost or stolen.

* Not be changing their name, gender, date of birth or place of birth for the new passport.

* Be applying for a regular tourist passport.

* Live in a USA State or territory.

* Be able to pay the renewal fee using a credit or debit card online.

* Be able to upload a digital photo.

* The State Department will not offer expediting for online passport renewals during the system trial period, so it requires applicants to certify that they have no international travel plans for at least eight weeks from the application date.

* The fee for online passport renewal is the same as renewal by mail $130. [B]The State Department advises applicants that their existing passport will be canceled as their renewal application is processed. New passports will still be delivered by mail after the application is approved[/B][/I]

[URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/passports/have-passport/renew-online.html[/URL]

From the State website:

[I]You can renew online if you meet all these requirements:

* The passport you are renewing is or was valid for 10 years, and you are age 25 or older.

* The passport you are renewing was issued between 2009 and 2015, or over 9 years but less than 15 years from the date you plan to submit your application.

* You are not changing your name, gender, date of birth, or place of birth.

* You are not traveling internationally for at least 8 weeks from the date you will submit your application. We will only offer routine service during this limited release, and the time it takes to get a passport will be the same as renewing by mail.

* You are applying for a regular (tourist) passport. You cannot renew a special issuance (diplomatic, official, service) passport online.

* [b]You live in the United States (either state or territory). You do not qualify to renew online if you live in a foreign country or have an Army Post Office (APO) or Fleet Post Office (FPO) address[/b].

* You have your passport with you, and it is not damaged or mutilated, and you have not previously reported it as lost or stolen. Keep your most recent passport and do not mail it to us.

* You can pay for your passport using a credit or debit card.

* You can upload a digital passport photo.

* [b]You are aware that the passport you are renewing will be canceled after you submit your application and you cannot use it for international travel.[/b][/I]

It seems the Filipina Pea is working overtime. Besides the YT channel, she has a tiktok channel with mostly shorter vids (2 minutes or less is typical). Some gems that I found:

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@thefilipinapea/video/7168846359397666074[/URL] -- 10 minute vid. Passport Bro discussion, some western ideas debunked. Go team Pea.

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@thefilipinapea/video/7067904568394386715[/URL] -- 2 minute vid. Star Trek TOS parody, funny (the Pea on the bridge of the Enterprise, with Capt Kirk).

WC.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2922379]Much more difficult to get a replacement for a lost passport. (Especially in Afghanistan but that is another story. LOL).[/QUOTE]Authorities want to see the dead body. If you want to play that game, boil your passport in water, add ink to the mix, wait till it is messed up, take out and dry. Then apply for replacement, saying you were out camping.

Greetings,

I am thinking about traveling to some place in Asia this summer. I have been to the Philippines several times, not sure I want to go back there this time but I might. Is there another Asian country where you have similar DIA, Tinder, Filipinas (or any other women in the country) that will come as a "Non Pro"? Not necessarily going to have a mongering trip but a few days with companionship would be nice. NOTE: I will make a side trip to Thailand at some point, probably not this trip. Thanks in advance.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOcZXhN3xvk&t=539s[/URL]

And another Filipina Pea video, 14 minutes, titled: [B]DO NOT RETIRE IN THE PHILIPPINES NOW - Things Are Different![/B].

An explained list of reasons why moving to Phils will make you unhappy. She explains up front that this vid will not make viewers happy. An explicit look at the country's problems the frustrate foreigners. "While the beautiful women part is true, the rest is highly debatable". I found everything she says here is true. Her listed reasons for not moving here include:

* It not as cheap to live here as you think. While its possible to live on a limited / fixed foreign retirement or SS, its also limited here. Expenses here increase faster than your fixed retirement (add an asawa, kids, her family, etc).

* Don't come here thinking you will get a filipines job or start a business. They inevitably fail. If filipinos see your business succeed, they will emulate it and soon there will be too many similar businesses located near yours, driving prices down to the level of their poverty. Local government red tape, unsteady product supply lines, employees who show up to work when they want, and a financially poor customer base.

* Type-A personalities don't do well here. If you are easily frustrated, then you will be constantly frustrated. The bureaucracies, waiting in line, inefficiency, and pinoy unwillingness to change outdated systems can make you crazy. Seems charming at first, but not later.

* You can't bring your western lifestyle here. Many western items are not available: Carpet, central aircon / heat, hot water heater servicing the entire home, and plumbers on emergency call don't exist. Reliable water, electricity, and internet don't always co-exist here.

* Grocery stores won't carry all the items that you want, forcing you to shop at more than one grocery store weekly. Worse even is that when one store does carry an item that you want, the supply chain problems mean that such products are intermittent. Depending time of day and time of year (close to holidays), be prepared to stand in line for 30 minutes to make your purchase. Lack of variety in products in grocery stores. "You don't go shopping here to find what you want. You go shopping here to find whatever they have on display. If you don't like that, you go shopping at another store that has exactly the same products".

* Many expats purchase a car, motorcycle, or small tryke of some kind for transport. Welcome to driving, heavy traffic (even in the provinces), and lack of parking space near your chosen destination.

* You need to develop a noise filter. Chickens, jack hammers, dogs barking, loud music and such, even into the night, are a normal part of life here.

* Complaining about things is a no-no. It never changes anything, and makes the locals dislike you. "Start a shouting match with your neighbors, and you discover no one is on your side, even if you're right".

[QUOTE=George03;2923702]Greetings,

I am thinking about traveling to some place in Asia this summer. I have been to the Philippines several times, not sure I want to go back there this time but I might. Is there another Asian country where you have similar DIA, Tinder, Filipinas (or any other women in the country) that will come as a "Non Pro"? Not necessarily going to have a mongering trip but a few days with companionship would be nice. NOTE: I will make a side trip to Thailand at some point, probably not this trip. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Big Asian cities like Hong Kong and Singapore have large numbers of Pinays and Indo's working as DHs and other menial jobs, Many are up for a bit of fun on their day (s) off.

Wherever you go these days, apps should put you in touch with local talent.

My next visit will be 6 weeks in length. As I understand it, I have two options: 1) apply for a 3-month single-entry visa beforehand (cost: approx 45 EUR), or 2) "Upon arrival in the Philippines, citizens of the above-listed countries who wish to stay longer than thirty days can apply for an extension at the nearest Bureau of Immigration office. ".

Does anyone have experience as to whether the extension is a seamless process? Can it be done immediately upon landing or only near the end of the 30-day period? Or is it preferable to just secure a visa ahead of time?

At WestCoast1: This is why I'm dipping in my toes slowly: 4, 6, 8, 10 weeks per year. You learn what works for you as you go along. Currently my long-term plan (realizable in perhaps 10-15 years) will involve living (and working) in my northern European home country during the summer half of the year and then having debauched slow travel fun in the Philippines for the winter half. This will be funded by investments so I don't have to exercise my non-existent business / hustle muscle. She makes a good point about cost of living increases. A buddy just visited Japan and said that you can have a perfectly good simple meal for <500 JPY (= 3. 16 USD). Suddenly Makati food prices don't seem so cheap anymore.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2923721][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOcZXhN3xvk&t=539s[/URL]
* Don't come here thinking you will get a filipines job or start a business.
[/QUOTE]Some great points Westie. I've been offered a few business opportunities (mainly hotels or bars) and after speaking to a Canadian hotel owner, he just said "Don't even contemplate it". He's cashed up at home and uses his hotel as a vacation option to escape the Canadian winter, have a good time and to help out some lovely local girls by giving them employment. He's elderly and he's running at a loss in the PH. His biggest hurdle is battling with the local authorities as they're always after him for money and are quite corrupt (His words).

If you want to retire in the PH. Do your homework before thinking of girls on tap. For one, they're not as inexpensive as they once were. The major one that most oversee is the quality of health care compared to your home country. If you were having a heart attack in a place like Sabang and needed urgent treatment, good luck getting an ambulance and a decent hospital to go to _ Phil.

[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2923819]Does anyone have experience as to whether the extension is a seamless process? Can it be done immediately upon landing or only near the end of the 30-day period? Or is it preferable to just secure a visa ahead of time?[/QUOTE]I have done both, and both processes are fairly easy. The advance visa is applied for thru your nearest Phils embassy in your country. There is a form to fill out, a fee to pay, and I think you might need to provide a reason for your needed return to your country (verify a property that you own, or a biz that you own, show a bank account, or show your paystub info), and of course send your passport. I used to mail mine to the Phils embassy about 10 days before my departure. Once they had it, the embassy usually processed it the next biz day and sent the PP back to me with the visa stamped on to one of the empty PP pages.

The extension process is pretty easy, we have spoken of this in the past. Walk in to any BI office (Intramuros is the main office; there is another at the Makati Circuit Mall, floor 5) and file an extension form before day 29 of your stay. Pay the fee (about p2800 or such), drop off your PP for an hour, and pick it up with your new 59-day extension. There is a slightly different payment of p1000 less, where you leave your PP at the BI office and return to pick it up 3 days later. An alternate method of doing this is to utilize a fixer, who will pick up your PP in the morning, process it for you at the BI office, and return the PP and extension to you the same afternoon (for a fee).

Regardless of which of these you do, I think you still need to have an outbound flight itinerary to show upon your arrival.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2923864]I have done both, and both processes are fairly easy. [/QUOTE]While extending to 59 days locally is easy, punters should remember that first they need to get into the country. Where I am, airlines will not let you on the plane if you don't have a valid visa for your entire stay. That's regardless of how sure you are that you will be able to get an extension upon arrival.

For the record, you cannot get your extension at the airport immediately upon arrival. You will only get 30 days when you step off the plane at NAIA. Yes, I have tried before.

G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2923843]... The major one that most oversee is the quality of health care compared to your home country. If you were having a heart attack in a place like Sabang and needed urgent treatment, good luck getting an ambulance and a decent hospital to go to _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Don't think that living close to a hospital in the big smoke is a sure fire solution either. I know of a couple of guys who literally died in the ambulance, stuck in traffic on their way to the hospital.

As you said, the devil is in the details. There are many positives to living in Asia but it's not all rainbows and pixy dust.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2923878]While extending to 59 days locally is easy, punters should remember that first they need to get into the country. Where I am, airlines will not let you on the plane if you don't have a valid visa for your entire stay. That's regardless of how sure you are that you will be able to get an extension upon arrival.[/QUOTE]Good point. Same where I live. If you have pre-obtained a 60-day entry from an embassy, it will be pasted into your PP. The check-in agent will ask to see it if you have a Phils outbound / departure airline ticket that is beyond your 30 day arrival. If you don't have the 60-day visa, you risk not being on-boarded. Telling the check-in agent "I will just extend when I get there" might not work.

I find that it depends on the busy-ness level of the check-in agents. When I was a tourist, sometimes the airline agent completely forgot to ask for the outbound ticket when they should have (as did inbound Phils Immigration agents).

[QUOTE=Goferring;2923878]For the record, you cannot get your extension at the airport immediately upon arrival. You will only get 30 days when you step off the plane at NAIA. Yes, I have tried before.[/QUOTE]To extend, you must wait until the 7-day period before your 30 days commences (days 23-30). I have waltzed into the Intramuros BI previously, once on day 20, to be told to come back in 3 days or after. The second time, stupid me, I walked in on day 22 and attempted to extend. I thought it was day 23. Both times I was told to come back. I think the same applies for all extensions.

[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2923795]Big Asian cities like Hong Kong and Singapore have large numbers of Pinays and Indo's working as DHs and other menial jobs, Many are up for a bit of fun on their day (s) off.

Wherever you go these days, apps should put you in touch with local talent.[/QUOTE]Thanks, two places that are on my list!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2923879]Don't think that living close to a hospital in the big smoke is a sure fire solution either. I know of a couple of guys who literally died in the ambulance, stuck in traffic on their way to the hospital.

As you said, the devil is in the details. There are many positives to living in Asia but it's not all rainbows and pixy dust..[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree G.

All countries are different and thankfully in Australia we have free, top quality health care as part of the taxes we pay. If I did die in an ambulance, at least I would be in one, and not waiting hours for one and a decent hospital at the end of the journey.

I've worked with numerous guys over the years who have decided to re-locate to the Phils only to return home when their health issues turned to shit, to get decent treatment and for free. I think it's just an issue that guys need to consider before deciding to relocate.

Sure, when we're having the time of our life, rooting fit, younger PH girls, health issues are the last thing on you're mind. But when it all turns to shit, where's the best place to get help?

It's just an issue that's often overlooked during the pursuit of wonderful Filipina pussy. Phil.

News story from yesterday's Philippine Star, titled: [B]Philippines ranks at the bottom of new PISA test on creative thinking[/B].

Fairly brutal check on public education in comparison ranking.

[URL]https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2024/06/19/2364001/philippines-ranks-bottom-new-pisa-test-creative-thinking?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2euXGRmt2mQTEfkhIt_9mruS9mrKf-nmOgssyEMOF598X9d84rSKX19J0_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw[/URL]

Snippets from the article:

[I]MANILA, Philippines Filipino students have one of the weakest creative thinking skills in the world, based on a newly launched global benchmarking test.

Fifteen-year-old students in the Philippines scored 14 points on average in the newly introduced creative thinking assessment of the 2022 cycle of the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), placing the Philippines in the bottom four among 64 countries.

This marks the first time that the PISA tested students on how well they can use their imagination and creativity to generate and improve upon ideas.

Filipino students' performance placed the Philippines in the same score range as three other countries on the bottom (or countries whose scores are not statistically different from the Philippines): Albania, Uzbekistan and Morocco.

The Philippines' mean score of 14 is also well below the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) average of 33, according to the PISA results on creative thinking published late Tuesday.

Countries that landed in the top five are Singapore (with students' average score being 41), Korea (38), Canada (38), Australia (37) and New Zealand (36).

Differences in the student performance of the highest- and lowest-performing countries are stark.

For instance, only around 3% of Filipino students can match the creative thinking abilities of the average student in Singapore, based on Philstar.com's analysis of the publicly available PISA scores.

This is evidenced by the data that shows just 3.4% of Filipino students reached Level 5 proficiency in the test, while 30% of students in Singapore achieved this, the highest of any proficiency level in the developed nation. Level 5 is the second highest proficiency with scores of 41 to 48.[/I]

[B]SNIP.[/B]

[I]Students in the Philippines remain among the worlds weakest in math, reading and science, PISA 2022 scores published in December 2023 showed, with the Philippines' overall score showing no significant improvement from 2018, when it first joined the test. The OECD has conducted the PISA every three years since 2000. The latest cycle, which involved 81 countries, was postponed by a year due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The test is designed to evaluate 15-year-olds' competencies in mathematics, science and reading as this is typically the age at which most students are still enrolled in formal education. In the Philippines, around 7,000 students from 188 randomly selected schools took the test.[/I]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2924255]News story from yesterday's Philippine Star, titled: [B]Philippines ranks at the bottom of new PISA test on creative thinking[/B].[/QUOTE]Great read Westie. The one thing I've always respected is, despite certain poverty in a great deal of families, every school kid I see is immaculately dressed on their way to and from school. That to me is a level of pride and parents looking for a better future for their kids. And from observation, this happens in a lot of other 'poorer' countries.

Obviously the education system needs to be looked into and they need to follow other progressive countries for assistance in this respect. And other countries who are friends of the PH could assist with educational guidance.

Thanks for posting info that's not predominately geared to 'bedding' these poor kid's mothers.

Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2924392]Thanks for posting info that's not predominately geared to 'bedding' these poor kid's mothers.[/QUOTE]Hahaha hey! You're talking about my specialty!

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2924392]Obviously the education system needs to be looked into[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2924392]and they need to follow other progressive countries for assistance in this respect. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2924392]other countries who are friends of the PH could assist with educational guidance.[/QUOTE]These are all good ideas, in the academic sense. But sad to say, while your western / outside ideas make logical sense, I am not sure that pinoy systems want to tolerate that. There is a strong internal drive in filipinos to not change existing systems. Upsetting the apple cart for the better is sometimes a good idea (especially if its cost-neutral or cost-effective), but it also risks upsetting the apple cart for the worst. Change is not only abhorred by systems (everywhere), but also by filipinos themselves.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2924486]...Change is not only abhorred by systems (everywhere), but also by filipinos themselves.[/QUOTE]The System has been very effective for both sides of the economic divide. The 'Haves' are provided with a docile workforce who won't upset the status quo. The 'Havenots' do not get the anguish and depression of having unrealistic expectations repeatedly quashed.

Sorry to be the eternal pessimist but the reality is that the caste system is very much alive in the PI and other Asian exdictatorships. Having drive and the ability to problem solve is a total waste and can actually be counterproductive. One needs family or business connections to get, or stay, ahead. Without these one's lot stays the same for generations. Having a good idea and drive will not lead to changing the world and flying to Mars. 😊.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2923819]My next visit will be 6 weeks in length. As I understand it, I have two options: 1) apply for a 3-month single-entry visa beforehand (cost: approx 45 EUR), or 2) "Upon arrival in the Philippines, citizens of the above-listed countries who wish to stay longer than thirty days can apply for an extension at the nearest Bureau of Immigration office. ".

Does anyone have experience as to whether the extension is a seamless process? Can it be done immediately upon landing or only near the end of the 30-day period? Or is it preferable to just secure a visa ahead of time?

.[/QUOTE]Download the app eGovPH, that's the easiest, self explanatory way of doing it.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2924478]Hahaha hey! You're talking about my specialty![/QUOTE]Well Westie, you do have to take your opportunities and I'm sure at the same time, providing a little extra cash for the family. Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2924486]These are all good ideas, in the academic sense. But sad to say, while your western / outside ideas make logical sense, I am not sure that pinoy systems want to tolerate that. There is a strong internal drive in Filipinos to not change existing systems.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the feedback Westie & G. I do business in the PH and have a good understanding of the mindset and there are hurdles to cross. It's obvious to me that most 'systems' in the Philippines stem from the local government. In a lot of ways their political system can be seen to be pretty fucked up. But on the other hand, if you take a look at an old crazy orange guy going up against an even older current president in the USA later this year, you have to ask yourself the question, which place is more fucked up? Enjoy the good times. Phil.

[QUOTE=DoktorEn;2923819]My next visit will be 6 weeks in length. As I understand it, I have two options: 1) apply for a 3-month single-entry visa beforehand (cost: approx 45 EUR), or 2) "Upon arrival in the Philippines, citizens of the above-listed countries who wish to stay longer than thirty days can apply for an extension at the nearest Bureau of Immigration office. ".

Does anyone have experience as to whether the extension is a seamless process? Can it be done immediately upon landing or only near the end of the 30-day period? Or is it preferable to just secure a visa ahead of time?
more.[/QUOTE]Here are the rates from Beeway Travel in Angeles.

* you get 30 days on arirval. You may be asked to show a retuen flight *.

1st extension-29 daysP3530.

2nd extension-2 months P8950 with acr card.

3rd extension-2 months P3830.

Beeway is the cheapest I found in Angeles. They have a busiess doing this. Go early to them, or any=other reputable agent. Do NOT leave it till after your 20th or so day. Go early. Bring your passport, money, hotel etc details. They do the rest. The commision they earn is nore than worth your while.

[I]1st extension-29 daysP3530.

2nd extension-2 months P8950 with acr card.

3rd extension-2 months P3830.[/I]

Sounds right. There are travel agency 'fixers' who will pick up your documents and go to the BI office and get your extension for you and return it the same day. They typically charge p1000 for the service. You can save the p1000 by going to the BI office and doing it yourself. For example, to get the first extension yourself at a BI office would be about p2530. If you walk into the Intramuros BI office, you will see the fixers doing the job; they wear a purple vest. They often have a dedicated line where they simply drop off several customer's documents (complete with fees) bundled together with a rubber band, then sit for 20 minutes waiting for the extensions to be finished. The fixers get to skip the part of going to different windows. Once the extensions (or other documents) are complete, the fixer picks them back up at the same window and departs the building. The fixers seem to get priority treatment at the BI.

The p1000 they charge is small potatoes for travelers to have the option of not wasting time going to a government office and waiting in line. Beeway also provides other services, including door-to-door Manila-AC transportation (p3500), and generally does good work.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2924697][I]1st extension-29 daysP3530.

2nd extension-2 months P8950 with acr card.

3rd extension-2 months P3830.[/I]

Sounds right....[/QUOTE]My last first extension was 3 k. That's including the same day expediting fee. It's a 30 minute process in one of the smaller provincial offices eg Battangas but I'd agree that 500 p is well worth not having to taxi across town and multiple queues in Cebu, Manila or any of the other big centers.

G.

I extended mine this week, took 45 minutes from arriving to exiting. This includes 10 minutes filling the form in. It was just over 3 k including the express service. This was in Cebu. I prefer to keep hold of my passport and do it myself.

I have just received the news from one of his two live in girl friends of a death of a mongering friend of mind in Angeles. As I am in Europe, I am not really in a position to offier practical help.

The guy was a Yank, with a son Stateside. He was renting an apartment and probably has assets of 1 million pesos max in the Philippines. Add a Yankee pension and that is about it.

The issui is this: as the girl friends are semi literates (not bar girls), lawyers are probably out of their range. I suggested they collect all relevant papers (bank books, evidence of ownerships, death cert) and contact a mutual friend, a European, to see what to do next. He was elderly and in bad health, so I doubt they were bonkng him. But thye gave up low paying jobs to look after him and now I reckon they are screwed, with no job, no nest egg and no Yankee apartment.

Any practical advice?
ps: there is no point me trying to exlain probabte, intestate, Phll AND US jurisdictions. They need soemone honest can guide them through. Lawyers are slippery eels at the best of times, but in Angeles.........

[QUOTE=Jarango;2925249]Any practical advice?[/QUOTE]Sorry to read of your friend's passing. Unfortunately, it's reasonably common for old guys to die overseas with no preplanning for what to do with the body, assets etc.

The obvious question is are the girlfriends included in the guy's will? If not, it's an uphill battle for a formal and legal solution.

Of course, if they were handling his shopping and finances as he got more infirm, then it's not unheard of for bank accounts to be drained while the legal process is taking place.

Where I'm from (non US), it can be exceedingly difficult for unnamed parties to get access to legal documents due to privacy etc legislation. Don't expect kids and family back home to come running to the rescue of grandpa's hot Pina girlfriends.

Good luck They could be ok if he had plans in place but they may be in their own on this one.

G.

Good evening!

Just a question.

Does anyone have a good way of finding out Free Lancers on PinaLove? I've been messaging at least 100 girls now and most are looking for love or cam girls or scammers, I did weed out maybe 3 FL but after a few days of trying I would like better results.

Thanks for the help!

[QUOTE=Jarango;2925249]I have just received the news from one of his two live in girl friends of a death of a mongering friend of mind in Angeles. As I am in Europe, I am not really in a position to offier practical help.

The guy was a Yank, with a son Stateside. He was renting an apartment and probably has assets of 1 million pesos max in the Philippines. Add a Yankee pension and that is about it.

The issui is this: as the girl friends are semi literates (not bar girls), lawyers are probably out of their range. I suggested they collect all relevant papers (bank books, evidence of ownerships, death cert) and contact a mutual friend, a European, to see what to do next. He was elderly and in bad health, so I doubt they were bonkng him. But thye gave up low paying jobs to look after him and now I reckon they are screwed, with no job, no nest egg and no Yankee apartment.

Any practical advice?
ps: there is no point me trying to exlain probabte, intestate, Phll AND US jurisdictions. They need soemone honest can guide them through. Lawyers are slippery eels at the best of times, but in Angeles.........[/QUOTE]The only assets are in PH. If there is an ATM card and they have the password then they should just drain it 50 k a day. I doubt any PH or US legal court can help them. Doesn't sound like any plans were made. Sadly they are left to self-help.

I doubt there is any US legal system that would chase the girls.

[QUOTE=JoeStressFree;2925302]Good evening!

Just a question.

Does anyone have a good way of finding out Free Lancers on PinaLove? I've been messaging at least 100 girls now and most are looking for love or cam girls or scammers, I did weed out maybe 3 FL but after a few days of trying I would like better results.

Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]I've posted recently about my challenges with PL.

But any profiles with 'fun', a WA number, a TG number are mostly FL. Ones with IG details are usually looking for followers IME.

Many girls looking for serious will eventually meet for money, it may take a number of days chatting but just keep saying you only want fun and happy to help them out.

The vast majority of my messages remain unread, these girls get 100's of messages from guys in the US (I've seen girls inboxes). I think many want to hook them into sending money and not meet for real.

I agree it can be a pain going through them all but I have found 3 who visit me regularly.

I'm also having some success on tantan which is more popular than I expected.

[QUOTE=JoeStressFree;2925302]Good evening!

Just a question.Does anyone have a good way of finding out Free Lancers on PinaLove? I've been messaging at least 100 girls now and most are looking for love or cam girls or scammers, I did weed out maybe 3 FL but after a few days of trying I would like better results.Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]I'll try to keep this politie. There is an entire part of this site here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals[/URL] dedicated to this. You should have posted your dumb question there. If you are in an area, eg Makati and they arrange to meet, you ask for short time and you know they are hookers. Literally, nothing could be simpler in 99% of cases. As you are most likely in the US or elsewhere, you are literally wasting their time, and ours.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2925310]The only assets are in PH. If there is an ATM card and they have the password then they should just drain it 50 k a day. I doubt any PH or US legal court can help them. Doesn't sound like any plans were made. Sadly they are left to self-help.

I doubt there is any US legal system that would chase the girls.[/QUOTE]I spoke to my lady a few minutes, ago. She tells me her friends are "stress" and some BS abiut a third lady, maybe the landlady, moving in to take the air con etc. All small stuff pathetic but that is their life.

My initial query was prompted by them not having the requisite skill set to self help. She really confrmed that. I am not trying to insult them but they are adult children, no education, no knowledge of dealing with the system.

I suggested raiding the ATM card but the problem there I see is they would leave traces and end up being charged over it. It is really like adopting a child, often an indolent one. I am not talking about the bar girls but those in small jobs, who barely survive and, in this case, hook up with an ex Yankee soldier. Easy on the head if you are not intense but they are slow lane people with narrow life horizons. Not complaining, just saying that is how it is.
My lady friend has dreams of marrying me, wheeling me around in a chair in years to come, putting up with bs about marrying an old man, doing whatever on the side as part of her deal with me. I don't think I could hack the mosquitoes, the broken roads, the ghetto like noise, the losers, the heat, the bs in death.
These women probably thought it was an ok deal, take care of him, maybe fuck around a little, everyone happy. But everyone not happy now.
These women are nice, the salt of the earth, But salt is only a seasoning and a preservative. I like their simplicity but only as a voyeur, not as a participant in their hum drum lives.
Some years ago, I gave a 30 ish waitress an ok tip in a small eatery. She was an ex hooker, who had been living with a Yank and his big screen TV, which she promptly sold when he passed. She got the waitressing job but was no good and brought her daughrter in for free feeds. She saw me literally as a free meal ticket, which I am not.
Some guys can fit into that life. I met an English guy, who runs a little cafe wearing little more than shorts (bare top for his scrawny chest). He says moving to Phils was the best move he ever made. I couldn't take the chaos without order or a purpose

[QUOTE=Jarango;2925386]I spoke to my lady a few minutes, ago. She tells me her friends are "stress" and some BS abiut a third lady, maybe the landlady, moving in to take the air con etc. All small stuff pathetic but that is their life.

My initial query was prompted by them not having the requisite skill set to self help. She really confrmed that. I am not trying to insult them but they are adult children, no education, no knowledge of dealing with the system.

I suggested raiding the ATM card but the problem there I see is they would leave traces and end up being charged over it. It is really like adopting a child, often an indolent one. I am not talking about the bar girls but those in small jobs, who barely survive and, in this case, hook up with an ex Yankee soldier. Easy on the head if you are not intense but they are slow lane people with narrow life horizons. Not complaining, just saying that is how it is.
My lady friend has dreams of marrying me, wheeling me around in a chair in years to come, putting up with bs about marrying an old man, doing whatever on the side as part of her deal with me. I don't think I could hack the mosquitoes, the broken roads, the ghetto like noise, the losers, the heat, the bs in death.
These women probably thought it was an ok deal, take care of him, maybe fuck around a little, everyone happy. But everyone not happy now.
These women are nice, the salt of the earth, But salt is only a seasoning and a preservative. I like their simplicity but only as a voyeur, not as a participant in their hum drum lives.
Some years ago, I gave a 30 ish waitress an ok tip in a small eatery. She was an ex hooker, who had been living with a Yank and his big screen TV, which she promptly sold when he passed. She got the waitressing job but was no good and brought her daughrter in for free feeds. She saw me literally as a free meal ticket, which I am not.
Some guys can fit into that life. I met an English guy, who runs a little cafe wearing little more than shorts (bare top for his scrawny chest). He says moving to Phils was the best move he ever made. I couldn't take the chaos without order or a purpose[/QUOTE]I am in finance, so in fairness to the two girls, most westerners don't know how to handle shit upon a death. I have seen a lot messes left behind. I have seen a lot of people who couldn't handle the simple probate. I have seem worms coming out of the woodworks when someone died. Can say I have seen it because I know there will be more shit coming.

It is a shame and crime to leave this world without instructions. No funeral plans is criminal.

My stuff is listed and provided for in an orderly manner. It wasn't hard to do. Amazon has simple workbooks on what to do upon death for $20.00. No excuse for a mess.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2925386]I spoke to my lady a few minutes, ago. She tells me her friends are "stress" and some BS abiut a third lady, maybe the landlady, moving in to take the air con etc. All small stuff pathetic but that is their life.
e[/QUOTE]Apparently,. The Yankee soldier boy had a house etc back Stateside. The women are high and dry and they and their several kids by several pinoy papas are now on the hunt for a new okano to milk. This is all so unsavoury and just a step above the gutter, which is the natural habitat of so many Pinoys. There are the possiiblities of regular employment (no room) but there are dramas there stopping that. You hook up with one of these and they are scared you and your money will stray. I could not stomach all that long term and I am sure I would explode with it and maybe get a knife in the gut or a bullet in the head for psising in the wrong ant hill. What a mess.

Here, we keep our social distance. There, we mix with the lower class. Ride the painted pony, end up on your butt.

I posted this during the site's upgrade. Bottom line is these woman are a social mess and it is best to be carefu l;est they pull usdown with them. Their lives, their mini dramas

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2925380]I've posted recently about my challenges with PL.

But any profiles with 'fun', a WA number, a TG number are mostly FL. Ones with IG details are usually looking for followers IME.

Many girls looking for serious will eventually meet for money, it may take a number of days chatting but just keep saying you only want fun and happy to help them out.

The vast majority of my messages remain unread, these girls get 100's of messages from guys in the US (I've seen girls inboxes). I think many want to hook them into sending money and not meet for real.

I agree it can be a pain going through them all but I have found 3 who visit me regularly.

I'm also having some success on tantan which is more popular than I expected.[/QUOTE]Ok! Thank you for your reply I did RTFF I guess I missed your post I will search again and Great Ill try TanTan.

Jarango. Thank you for your reply! My mistake must have not noticed that section, ok Ill just write ST haha.

Sorry about your friends passing!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2925394]I am in finance, so in fairness to the two girls, most westerners don't know how to handle shit upon a death. I have seen a lot messes left behind. I have seen a lot of people who couldn't handle the simple probate. I have seem worms coming out of the woodworks when someone died. Can say I have seen it because I know there will be more shit coming..[/QUOTE]Yes, but they are at a different level of stupidity. Hand to hand existence, no capacity or space to plan. Many of them see some ex Yankee soldier as theirpension plan, even though he has one leg in the grave.

People here joke about making babies. But they do that on purpose with good looking Indians or whoever thye think wil give them a cute baby. No planning that the baby will grow up uneduicated and a ladyboy. The gap between them and us is so big, like it was in Europe between rich and poor 200 years ago.

There is just such a gap in world views and experience. A huge red flag to me.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2925249]......

Any practical advice?
ps: there is no point me trying to exlain probabte, intestate, Phll AND US jurisdictions. They need soemone honest can guide them through. Lawyers are slippery eels at the best of times, but in Angeles.........[/QUOTE]Not going to help in this circumstance but I have been thinking of seeing a local lawyer about a Philippine will, I will specificially include both local and home assets.

I have a live in GF so she will get all local assets (less than a million except for SRRV deposit and vehicle.) and all I have of value in Canada is bank accounts, I will just leave these to my kids in equal share. I will include in both the my requests for disposal of my body. As well as a full listing of all bank accounts in both places.

This just moved it to the top of my to do list. I will advise all of the will process here when I am done.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2928006]Not going to help in this circumstance but I have been thinking of seeing a local lawyer about a Philippine will, I will specificially include both local and home assets.

I have a live in GF so she will get all local assets (less than a million except for SRRV deposit and vehicle.) and all I have of value in Canada is bank accounts, I will just leave these to my kids in equal share. I will include in both the my requests for disposal of my body. As well as a full listing of all bank accounts in both places.

This just moved it to the top of my to do list. I will advise all of the will process here when I am done.[/QUOTE]Please keep us informed. I am guessing you will need a Canadian Will to effect your desires for your kids. Or just add them on to your bank accounts now.

I am curious if PH have a "Transfer Upon Death" deed?

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2928006]Not going to help in this circumstance but I have been thinking of seeing a local lawyer about a Philippine will, I will specificially include both local and home assets.

I have a live in GF so she will get all local assets (less than a million except for SRRV deposit and vehicle.) and all I have of value in Canada is bank accounts, I will just leave these to my kids in equal share. I will include in both the my requests for disposal of my body. As well as a full listing of all bank accounts in both places.

This just moved it to the top of my to do list. I will advise all of the will process here when I am done.[/QUOTE]BTW, I have in my will cremation upon death wherever I am. I can remember horror stories PH funeral homes holding bodies hostage for huge amounts and the permit fees to transport bodies back home. Creating nightmares for families to navigate from far away. Simple cremation and FedEx me back home.

YT vid discussing the coming demise of E-2-E encryption (and all encryption).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c52pKpYeZ74[/URL]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2930138]YT vid discussing the coming demise of E-2-E encryption (and all encryption).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c52pKpYeZ74[/URL][/QUOTE]Working in mainland China for many years I understood that any communications I had inside and outside of China was being monitored. Now it looks like that will be true for everywhere.

FB reel regarding attempted condo sales (BCG) and financing in Phils.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1880677769046448[/URL]

Well, what a difference a day makes. Or a few months. Have flown around the islands here several times this (and last) year. One-way fares have been stiffer since covid. Typical OW fare from most any off-Luzon province to MNL has been, for me, p4 k to P9 k, depending holidays and such. Gone so far in the past year have been those wonderful p2200 promo fares. Until now. Received recently the annual CP email announcing the annual (or semi-) promo fares. OW prices drop over the next 2 months from p12 K to p1 K to as little as p288. Obviously that does not include fees, taxes and such. Pictured are OW examples from two southern provinces to MNL.

Sale period: July 15 - 31.

Travel period: July 15 - December 31.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2931019]Well, what a difference a day makes. Or a few months. Have flown around the islands here several times this (and last) year. One-way fares have been stiffer since covid. Typical OW fare from most any off-Luzon province to MNL has been, for me, p4 k to P9 k, depending holidays and such. Gone so far in the past year have been those wonderful p2200 promo fares. Until now. Received recently the annual CP email announcing the annual (or semi-) promo fares. [/QUOTE]Hi Westie _ I basically get an email every second day from CP and PA offering me discounts.

Assuming it must be as I've signed up and travelled as a frequent flier for both. Also getting their posts on Instagram and Facebook showing up almost daily.

Generally when PA offer a cheap deal on an international flight, it's been almost impossible to find when you follow the links and search for it.

With domestic flights within the Phils I've noticed the prices have risen somewhat. I took a flight earlier this year from Cebu to Manila with CP and the plane was absolutely packed with people. The plane was unmarked and the safety card in the seat pocket was written in what appeared to be Russian? Turns out they were leasing planes from Bulgaria Air.

Having said that, I have booked a work trip in March next year at the cheapest price I've ever seen via PA. The only thing I pay extra for with PA is a preferred seat for an international flight. With CP all those add-ONS and taxes don't make the end price as attractive as they start out to be.

I've found a lot depends on your preferred day of travel. A departure date either side can save you heaps.

I'm sure you're aware of this Westie, but for the benefit of others _ Phil.

Thanks WC. I wasn't aware of the seat sale. I'm in need of boooking a round trip for one of my FNF girl.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2931019]Well, what a difference a day makes. Or a few months. Have flown around the islands here several times this (and last) year. One-way fares have been stiffer since covid. Typical OW fare from most any off-Luzon province to MNL has been, for me, p4 k to P9 k, depending holidays and such. Gone so far in the past year have been those wonderful p2200 promo fares. Until now. Received recently the annual CP email announcing the annual (or semi-) promo fares. OW prices drop over the next 2 months from p12 K to p1 K to as little as p288. Obviously that does not include fees, taxes and such. Pictured are OW examples from two southern provinces to MNL.

Sale period: July 15 - 31.

Travel period: July 15 - December 31.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys. This seems to be the most active thread. So I'm here to report and seeking some info:

This is my second time in CC, the first time felt like a complete outsider.

I'm traveling solo, met some cool local pinoys in Siargao who helped me cover the way the locals party on islands and in city life.

Obviously they are aided 100% because they speak the language. There is a huge P4 P in the local community the pros here already know that. The locals use apps too and word of mouth brokers and finder fees / pyramid dating.

What I learned which obviously isn't a shock but the local p4 p rate for top level to basic level is much different then foreigner rate. It's funny because it's very possible the local I was hanging with made very good money+ maybe more than me. Many of these locals are loaded and still paying 1,000 pesos -2000 pesos for overnight 18-23 year old hotties.

So that's old news, for newbs. Cebu city is not just an online scene. Obviously can pick up at malls / etc -that's hit / miss. More 'hit' are the disco's especially if you are 40 and under or can look that age, drink / nod your head to music. Right below the water front hotel is a disco called Agwaa, pronounced like agua. Handful of workers there and normal 18-24 year old chica's that some may or may not be into P4 P. I got sexually assaulted in a good way in the club by a chubby cutie. Lap dances and make outs. Hooking up in these clubs is more hit then the mall. // clubs start about 11 pm and go to 5 am. If you haven't found a date by 2-3 .it's time to go, forgot the name of the bigger disco. It's a Korean spot but all are welcome. PM me I can get name for you / also mentioned in a recent post.

I also found a strip of lady bars / AC style clubs here. Obvious they are here some reason I didn't discover my first time. It's definitely worth a look. Now last night I had an internet date and we were looking for live music and stumbled on these bars. Since she's bisexual she was game to grab a drink in one. What was interesting was there were mostly local pinoys in the lady bar club I was in. It was the most live one with many ladies, girls doing sexy / clothed but panty pussy dances. My girl was happy to see the ass and thongs on display.

There were a few foreigners popping in; the mamassan scene.

For the pro's here: question. /. These bars are like car dealerships. / if you're a dumbass. Or appear like a newb they will quote you crazy rates.

I guaranteed the pinoy perhaps are paying a bar fee of maybe 1,000-1,500 max and then probably another 1,000-2,000 to the lady for a few hours.

Can someone tell me what to expect from mama. For the white man bat fine? In Makati's I believe they are asking like 2-3 ish and the girls expect another 3. For 1 hour. That of course is the 1st time no frequent flyer rate.

Of course I would imagine some girls can command a higher hourly rate.

Outside of the AC strip club style bars. // there was a traditional bar. No music / no sexy dance show. Just a empty bar with a line up of hot women 20-25 years old.

I was curious if that bar fine rate / and girl hourly rate is lower, same program as AC style lady dance bar.

I'm game to go back. And report my experience. Just wanted to show up with a Kelly blue book price 😂.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2931049]With domestic flights within the Phils I've noticed the prices have risen somewhat. I took a flight earlier this year from Cebu to Manila with CP and the plane was absolutely packed with people. The plane was unmarked and the safety card in the seat pocket was written in what appeared to be Russian? Turns out they were leasing planes from Bulgaria Air.[/QUOTE]I was talking about CP domestic flights. I get this email usually twice a year, around February (first half the year) and then around June / July (last half). Its either the p1 twice-annual sale, or the low base rate (few hundred P) twice-annual sale. The sale window is always 2 weeks, and the travel dates are usually going forward from the sale window several (up to 6) months. This year there was no first half announcement, and finding base fares to / from MNL domestically was p4 k+. It appears the low prices are back. A few minutes after that email arrived, another arrived announcing p1 fares from Clark (see pic). I was actively looking several times this year domestically, and didn't see anything under p4 k. Get 'them while they're hot.

PJ is correct. Sometimes I get a promo email from PAL or CP, and then checking the prices during the sale period, I can't always find the sale price on the website.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2931242]I was talking about CP domestic flights. I get this email usually twice a year, around February (first half the year) and then around June / July (last half).

PJ is correct. Sometimes I get a promo email from PAL or CP, and then checking the prices during the sale period, I can't always find the sale price on the website.[/QUOTE]Hi Westie. I did realize you were talking about domestic flights. Sorry, It's just that I book all of my domestic flights before a business trip from overseas every few months. I've never received the twice a year seat sales with CP but got another email from them today about some other 'deal' that doesn't suit me. Obviously if a good fare comes up, I'll snag it and generally airfares in the Phills are pretty cheap if you plan well in advance. Just my experience. Phil.

Currently unable to pull up anything google: general query, G maps, etc. CrowdStrike hangover maybe.

Bit of a PSA regarding condo re-sale market difficulties.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1003032907688789[/URL]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2933131]Bit of a PSA regarding condo re-sale market difficulties.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/1003032907688789[/URL][/QUOTE]Are you suggesting that the Philippines' real estate market might be full of pitfalls and opportunities to loose some / all of Whitie's money?

Blasphemer!! I was just chatting with a guy with a bridge to sell. Going cheap too.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2933151]Are you suggesting that the Philippines' real estate market might be full of pitfalls and opportunities to loose some / all of Whitie's money?

Blasphemer!! I was just chatting with a guy with a bridge to sell. Going cheap too.

G.[/QUOTE]I think I posted another in the past 2 months or so another vlogger with similar info.

And another tidbit, I forgot to share previously. A friend stayed at La Verti Residences (Taft Ave near Buendia, Pasay) for a year during covid. I visited him there. He leased unfurnished for p18 k / month (and he shouldered the utilities, for a typical total $25 k / month at the time, he said; that's about $500/ month all in for rent / utilities, not bad in the city). I didn't ask who the owner was. I stopped at the front desk on my way out, as there was a large sign that read "We are leasing units for p18,000 per month. Inquire here". I stopped and asked about leasing. The concierge girl pulled out a stapled stack of papers. She had oodles of open places for lease. Guessing that is how he got his unit. Point is, with all the building growth spurt during covid, there are probably oodles of 'pre-owned' units on the market.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2933131]Bit of a PSA regarding condo re-sale market difficulties.
[/QUOTE]Most foreigners are old so time to sell is not on their side. Most foreigners do not have family to give it to since their own family are in their country of origin. Most foreigners lose money on property bought overseas, especially when they build a mansion in the middle of nowhere surrounded by poverty. Where you going to find a buyer?

Knew a guy who bought a condo in Pattaya. 10 years later the Russians moved into the neighborhood. He can only get half the price he paid for it now.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2933151]

Blasphemer!! I was just chatting with a guy with a bridge to sell. Going cheap too.

G.[/QUOTE]Too late. I already bought it. It is in the desert so it will not get wet and last damn near forever!

Phils BI numbers / info for February 2024, and comparing February 2023.

[URL]http://tourism.gov.ph/files/2024/tourism_demand/04/Inbound/04-08/February%202024%20arrivals%20(as%20of%2005%20Mar%202024).pdf[/URL]

From the article:

From 466,000 visitors in Feb 2023, to 582,000 visitors in Feb 2024, an increase of 25%. Myself projecting for the remainder of the year: About 6. 5 to 7 million visitors projected this year, still down from 8. 5 million the year before covid, but getting there. S Koreans are the largest inbound group, making up more than 25% of those entering Feb 2024; USA is second (16%). Brits and Aussies combined at 6%, and then all the others.

[B]"More male visitors traveled to the Philippines with a 54.19% share, while female visitors comprised 45.81% out of the total".[/B]

Money:

[B]"The Average Per Capita Expenditure for this month is about PHP 160,413.69. It is estimated that a visitor had an average length of stay of 12.69 nights and an average daily expenditure of PHP
12,640.95 during their visit to the country."[/B]

Of the 75 billion pesos spent by foreigners in Feb 2024: Koreans spent the most, 21 billion pesos (28%). Chinese and Americans spent 6.7 billion pesos (9%) each, then everyone else.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2933160]Point is, with all the building growth spurt during covid, there are probably oodles of 'pre-owned' units on the market.[/QUOTE]Another video from the same chap regarding condos in Phils. These are 'shorts' or 'reels' on FB. In this short vid, he explains why the majority of condo units are not lived in or occupied. Basically the owners consider the units as an investment (not as a place to live). They refuse to sell it at a loss or below market value, "creating a bubble that never pops". Some rich Korean buys, say, 8 units. When they don't rent, or rent poorly, he's not going to sell them even as their value drops.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/3665025173761008[/URL]

His name is John Dang on FB, and here are his 'reels':

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/johndang90/reels/[/URL]

And another, where he compares condo ownership in nine asian cities. His comparison is as such. He looks at how many years it would take to buy a typical 1-br unit in each city, based on average annual salary. Among them: Singapore and Japan 22 years, Korea and Thailand 25, HK 33, Indonesia 37, and Phils 42 years.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/804725195107952[/URL]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2933546][B]"More male visitors traveled to the Philippines with a 54.19% share, while female visitors comprised 45.81% out of the total".[/B][/QUOTE]There are many foreign guys visiting their Filipina GFs or wives. I doubt there are any foreigner women visiting their Filipino BFs or husbands.

I have seen many YouTube foreigner guys but no foreigner women YouTube videos.

My Korean friend is a president of some construction company and brings the same 2 employees and sometimes clients on his visits. I doubt foreign women are bringing business clients to the Philippines and sitting at the beach with them or brought them for shopping. Most richer foreign women will not like the uncleanliness in PH.

I have traveled to other islands and see a foreigner guy almost daily but no foreigner women. Many guys doing scuba diving, but few women.

So the only thing I can see bringing foreign women to PH is the beaches.

Many of us come halfway around the world for sexy Filipinas. I doubt Western women are coming this far for the beaches. So this leaves the Asian women as majority of the visitors. I find the percentage really hard to believe. I would expect more of a 33 to 66% split.

Any theories of how there could such a high percentage of foreign women visiting PH?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2933798]Any theories of how there could such a high percentage of foreign women visiting PH?[/QUOTE]Hi L. I. H. 69.

On my flight's it would be a 50/50 split. Sure, a lot of the women are returning home to visit family but many have become foreign citizens of their adopted countries and have lived abroad for years. Additionally, I've seen so many European couples and foreign female friends visiting places like Moalboal, Boracay and many of the islands on vacation. Places like those generally attract a 50/50 split.

Sabang is probably the only diving spot where I've seen a really large proportion of men compared to women, and those visitors are predominately Korean who are there for a combination of looking at fish and girly bars.

I travel a lot for business before pleasure and the foreigners I meet in the business circles would be a 60/40 split with more women filling roles that were historically male dominated.

If your were to only visit Mango Ave, Makati and / or Angeles on a trip to the Phils, it would be right to assume 90% of foreigners would be men. Although significant, the sex tourism market is only a small part of the overall foreign visitor picture.

Just my experience. Phil.

Hi guys,

Although not girly related, I was just wondering if anyone knows of a good optometrist they could recommend in Angeles?

I have seen quite a few in SM City, but they're a bit pricey. Any local recommendations would be appreciated.

(And yes, my glasses are only for reading and not for determining if it's a ladyboy or not).

Cheers. Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2933546]Phils BI numbers / info for February 2024, and comparing February 2023.

[URL]http://tourism.gov.ph/files/2024/tourism_demand/04/Inbound/04-08/February%202024%20arrivals%20(as%20of%2005%20Mar%202024).pdf[/URL]

From the article:

From 466,000 visitors in Feb 2023, to 582,000 visitors in Feb 2024, an increase of 25%. Myself projecting for the remainder of the year: About 6. 5 to 7 million visitors projected this year, still down from 8. 5 million the year before covid, but getting there. S Koreans are the largest inbound group, making up more than 25% of those entering Feb 2024; USA is second (16%). Brits and Aussies combined at 6%, and then all the others.

[B]"More male visitors traveled to the Philippines with a 54.19% share, while female visitors comprised 45.81% out of the total".[/B]

Money:

[B]"The Average Per Capita Expenditure for this month is about PHP 160,413.69. It is estimated that a visitor had an average length of stay of 12.69 nights and an average daily expenditure of PHP
12,640.95 during their visit to the country."[/B]

Of the 75 billion pesos spent by foreigners in Feb 2024: Koreans spent the most, 21 billion pesos (28%). Chinese and Americans spent 6.7 billion pesos (9%) each, then everyone else.[/QUOTE]Hehehe. I wish I could keep it at 12640 p a day. Its been discussed before a few drinks with barfine is around 10 k. Now I don't do barfine everyday but food lodging and other things add up. ,Buying girls crap at mall they want, I know I'm a softy. Last time regular needed bathing suit and various things. I may be a bit more generous with my regulars, but hey I'm there to have fun. In pussy hell here I spend nothing so why not. My average usually comes to around 15 to 20 k a day for 2 weeks not counting airfare. I'm there to have fun, I can be a penny pincher when I return home.

Hi all,

I plan on visiting the Philippines soon. I live in Tokyo, though I'm from the US. My best friend is Filipino (from Cavite) and said I'd have a great time there, even more than in Japan. He suggested to me that I should definitely not go to Manila, rather to "go south. " Started rambling on about how Manila is dangerous and grimy, and how the girls would like me more if I, again "went south. " I suppose I could go to Cebu or something. Do you guys agree with this?

I particularly do like the "grimy" nightlife in Japan and spend a good deal of time in underground bars. It can be quite dangerous, so I think I'm comfortable with it. That being said, we are talking about Japan which is safe even in its most sketchy places.

My goals are basically to hang out with a lot of girls and sing karaoke.

[QUOTE=Bonico;2934050]Hi all,

I plan on visiting the Philippines soon. I live in Tokyo, though I'm from the US. My best friend is Filipino (from Cavite) and said I'd have a great time there, even more than in Japan. He suggested to me that I should definitely not go to Manila, rather to "go south. " Started rambling on about how Manila is dangerous and grimy, and how the girls would like me more if I, again "went south. " I suppose I could go to Cebu or something. Do you guys agree with this?

I particularly do like the "grimy" nightlife in Japan and spend a good deal of time in underground bars. It can be quite dangerous, so I think I'm comfortable with it. That being said, we are talking about Japan which is safe even in its most sketchy places.

My goals are basically to hang out with a lot of girls and sing karaoke.[/QUOTE]You can find videoke about anywhere. Personally, I think Manila is too overcrowded. Getting anywhere takes a long time. A city in the province is always more of my thing.

I just got back from Mindanao, and it was really safe there. I was in Gensan and areas around there. It was overall much cleaner and smelled better than Manila. Less noisy. And the girls are thinner and bigger boobs. For a Filipina. I also spent time in South Luzon. It was nice there, though not as clean. Standard Filipina girls there. Skinny and small boobs. Just my $0. 02.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2934360]
I just got back from Mindanao, and it was really safe there. I was in Gensan and areas around there. It was overall much cleaner and smelled better than Manila. Less noisy. And the girls are thinner and bigger boobs..[/QUOTE]Ssshhh. Let's just keep Mindanao girls our little secret shall we? Remember the story is that the girls are all ugly, it's incredibly dangerous and whities are at risk of being decapitated at any moment.

Stay on tune please. 😉

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2934360]I just got back from Mindanao, and it was really safe there. I was in Gensan and areas around there. It was overall much cleaner and smelled better than Manila. Less noisy. And the girls are thinner and bigger boobs. For a Filipina. I also spent time in South Luzon. It was nice there, though not as clean. Standard Filipina girls there. Skinny and small boobs. Just my $0. 02.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2934475]Ssshhh. Let's just keep Mindanao girls our little secret shall we? Remember the story is that the girls are all ugly, it's incredibly dangerous and whities are at risk of being decapitated at any moment.[/QUOTE]Ya. What they said. Quiet! Don't go there. There's nothing there for you. Southern provincial pinay are not like a loaf of fresh-buttered bread just out of the oven: Warm, soft, delicious, and easy to get into.

Well done to Carlos Yulo for winning gold in gymnastics for the Philippines and for its obese mongers. We salute you.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2934475]Ssshhh. Let's just keep Mindanao girls our little secret shall we? Remember the story is that the girls are all ugly, it's incredibly dangerous and whities are at risk of being decapitated at any moment.

Stay on tune please. 😉

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I don't remember where most of my barfines were from, but I know exactly where from all the girlfriends that I had over the years came from, and they were all from mindanao, except the one that I have now from the visayas.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2935039]I don't remember where most of my barfines were from, but I know exactly where from all the girlfriends that I had over the years came from, and they were all from mindanao, except the one that I have now from the visayas.[/QUOTE]Guessing: Surigao city, Hinatuan, Cabadbaran, Butuan, Bayugan, Tandag, and GSC. Almost all of my AC gogo girls who were from Mindanao were from these 2 areas: Northeast Mindanao, and the southern area of General Santos. Leyte and Samar islands were the other 2 hotspot islands represented in AC gogos. Brown Sugar, Body Shop, Geckos, Tropix, Atlantis and so on were filled with such skinny beauties. One of the things I liked about them at the time was their unsophisticated and unworldly simpleness. It became a reason for me to plan a trip thru the region; not necessarily to get laid, but to see what the % of hotties are in the area, as a possible retirement area. Goferring has described such small-town cuties (compound girls) here. The place was, and still is, littered with such girls. However they are not for mongering (more for dating).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2934591]Ya. What they said. Quiet! Don't go there. There's nothing there for you. Southern provincial pinay are not like a loaf of fresh-buttered bread just out of the oven: Warm, soft, delicious, and easy to get into.[/QUOTE]Sorry Westie, from the recent feedback I've seen here, I'm off to get some fresh bread some time soon _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2935025]Well done to Carlos Yulo for winning gold in gymnastics for the Philippines and for its obese mongers. We salute you.[/QUOTE]A second gold. Amazing what proper exercise can do.

Hey. Hey,

I have only been to Thailand twice so far. Pattaya and Bangkok and want a change. Want to see the Philippines.

I plan to be in the Philippines for 26 nights. From April 12 to May 9. I was thinking about 4 nights in Angeles (according to the internet there is nothing much there except girls). Manilla (7 nights), El Nido - 3 nights, Borracay - 3 nights and Cebu - 9 nights. Is that ok in your opinion or would you do it differently? Primarily I want to go for the girls, but I also want to have some nice pictures for instagram.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2935046]Guessing: Surigao city, Hinatuan, Cabadbaran, Butuan, Bayugan, Tandag, and GSC. Almost all of my AC gogo girls who were from Mindanao were from these 2 areas: Northeast Mindanao, and the southern area of General Santos. Leyte and Samar islands were the other 2 hotspot islands represented in AC gogos. Brown Sugar, Body Shop, Geckos, Tropix, Atlantis and so on were filled with such skinny beauties. One of the things I liked about them at the time was their unsophisticated and unworldly simpleness. It became a reason for me to plan a trip thru the region; not necessarily to get laid, but to see what the % of hotties are in the area, as a possible retirement area. Goferring has described such small-town cuties (compound girls) here. The place was, and still is, littered with such girls. However they are not for mongering (more for dating).[/QUOTE]Close! A Pharmacist from Surigao, a pig farmer / owner from Marawi, a stewardess from Iligan, a student from Davao and two sisters from San Francisco in the east, one in the real estate business (in 2022), the other nail / hair dresser (in 2023). All were 9-10's, when you have time, and you're not desperate to find somebody to sleep with, then you can set your standards high and follow thru. My problem is that I get bored after a month with somebody, and most of them don't understand that bringing a girlfriend over from time to time is not a threat for them, but a plus that will elevate them in my eyes, and keep the relationship interesting. I did 3 somes with all of them with no exception, some where realy into it, some didn't seem very interested for repeats, but they all enjoyed it at the time. The pharmacist really liked to do it to the others, and the hairdresser was absolutely crazy about having both ends plugged, regardless at which end I was, her unfulfilled fantasy was to be with 2 guys, but I couldn't make that come true for her, because I'm not comfortable having another naked guy close to me, I tried that once in Brazil 20 years ago, with a friend of mine and 3 chicks, and we ended up in separate rooms after 30 seconds.

I still keep in touch with all of them, except the realtor, she never wanted to talk to me after I got involved with her sister.

Also is worth mentioning another 2 unusual girls from the same province, a kick boxer that I've been with for almost a month and I couldn't convince her to have a 3 some, but she had some amazing involuntary kekel maneuvers, she was taller than me, and could overpower me real easy in bed fights. Not skinny but she had an amazing athletic body. I met her in Bolinao, and after some traveling around we ended up in Angeles City, where I always bring them for the introduction to 3 somes, if not available someplace else, and this one decided to stay and have a carrier change as a bar girl. I met her few years later and she told me that it didn't really worked out for her because nobody will barfine her because she is tall, and with high heels, looked like a trans.

The other unusual one used to be a Victoria's Secret model 10 years ago, now a sales girl at the mall with 2 kids. Killer body with a pretty face when happy and smiling, but with the tits sagging a bit.

I know her for many years she is a nympho in bed, and she is willing to try a 3 some, but we never got that far because always when we went out to the bars hunting, she got drunk to easy and started talking about her kids killing the mood. From her I know that VS don't pay almost nothing to the models, and actually you need money to be able to do it, if you're not a top model, but they all hope to be noticed by some millionaire, and end up marrying one.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2935175]Close! A Pharmacist from Surigao, a pig farmer / owner from Marawi, a stewardess from Iligan, a student from Davao and two sisters from San Francisco in the east, one in the real estate business (in 2022), the other nail / hair dresser (in 2023). All were 9-10's, when you have time, and you're not desperate to find somebody to sleep with, then you can set your standards high and follow thru...[/QUOTE]Referring to my original post, I find Davao girls particularly ugly and foul tempered. They should be avoided at all costs. 😉.

Years ago, but I knew a mama in Sabang who had three houses of Mindanao girls. All Davaoenas so that was her main recruiting ground. Mama was about 4'6", 300 lbs and hideous but her entourage certainly made up the lost ground. They were the ones who showed me the technical difficulties of sleeping with 4+ girls in one bed. Any more and one will be sleeping east-weat at the foot of the bed, then extras get evicted to the floor.

If chatting online, one has to remember that "Davao" can refer to the City or numerous Provinces so define exactly where she lives before wasting too much time.

I'd agree that it's not a point and shoot exercise. Having time in town certainly does deliver benefits.

Not Mindanao, but in Cebu, I also latched onto a UFC champ. Well, a brown belt in Karate or TaiKwanDo, I forget, but the details are unimportant. She was the same: flexible enough to win any game of naked twister and the stamina of a marathon runner. Definitely something every man should try at least once.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Stahlavsky;2935147]Hey. Hey,

I have only been to Thailand twice so far. Pattaya and Bangkok and want a change. Want to see the Philippines.

I plan to be in the Philippines for 26 nights. From April 12 to May 9. I was thinking about 4 nights in Angeles (according to the internet there is nothing much there except girls). Manilla (7 nights), El Nido - 3 nights, Borracay - 3 nights and Cebu - 9 nights. Is that ok in your opinion or would you do it differently? Primarily I want to go for the girls, but I also want to have some nice pictures for instagram.[/QUOTE]Hi Mate, The Phils can be amazing when it comes to girls and it looks like you've got a bit of time to do your research. Yes, Angeles is a shithole and the same goes for Manila and Cebu City. But they're all places to score pussy. Boracay is where you want to go for your Insta pics. There's no girly bar scene there, but all you have to do is walk past the nightclubs at Station 2 and there will be plenty of freelancers to choose from. Can't comment on El Nido as I'm yet to go there.

I travel to the Phils regularly for work and meet up with my city girl contacts on a regular basis and then have some time out on an island somewhere. When you visit an island that is not typically a girly scene destination, all you have to do is ask the locals or the hotel staff to find you a 'pretty girl' and something's bound to show up for some $$.

From your intended itinerary, it just seems like you'll be spending or wasting travel time getting to the nicer areas for only a handful of days in each.

Sabang's another option and fairly close to Manila via road and fastcat, but unless you're into diving, there's not much to do through the day before waiting for the girly bars to open at night and then you have to be quick before all the Koreans grab the talent in advance. The freelancers there are a bit dodgy and I've heard stories of a lot of guys getting ripped off especially when they agree to a tag team of two girls.

Just my experience. Phil.

Has anyone had successes Or issues with Booking a freelancer off Twitter or other social media? There's a lot of alter accounts on Twitter That are offering services. Some could be scams or catfish, but some seem legit. I'the appreciate you guys sharing any info about this because I feel like it could be a lot more efficient during my travels.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2935531]

From your intended itinerary, it just seems like you'll be spending or wasting travel time getting to the nicer areas for only a handful of days in each.

[/QUOTE]Something that a first time visitor should be aware of is that the Philippines doesn't have many direct flights between tourist centres. Most use a hub and spoke model passing though Manila, Cebu or Angeles. In practice, this means that a trip between two cities that are close on a map can be an all day affair of flights and connections. Hence, a planned 3 or 4 day visit can become only 24/36 hours of free time in town.

Previously I planned on visiting numerous places per visit. Now I've cut that number right down or I allow a lot more time.

Enjoy, G.

Your comments are spot on. My business partner from Singapore owns 13 units in Cebu Business Park. Only 3 are used / occupied. Rest are speculative investment. He only dumped his Mandini Bay pre sale units as that project is now in year 10 of construction and only 1 tower is up. I once owned a unit in Greenbelt 4. Took me almost two years to sell as everyone wanted me to sell at inflated prices. I eventually sold direct to another expat at what I'll call market price. With so much inventory I feel the condo market is a bubble but I also don't think it will burst for a while as most seem to be held by large Asian companies or super wealthy investors who will just sit on them until they have a forced reason to sell. Look at some of these big projects in China that are empty. That may eventually happen in PH and in some places already feels a bit that way. While I live in a house about 30 minutes north of Cebu City I'm currently using one of my partners condos this week and I can honestly say I think this building is only about 20 percent occupied at most.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2933735]Another video from the same chap regarding condos in Phils. These are 'shorts' or 'reels' on FB. In this short vid, he explains why the majority of condo units are not lived in or occupied. Basically the owners consider the units as an investment (not as a place to live). They refuse to sell it at a loss or below market value, "creating a bubble that never pops". Some rich Korean buys, say, 8 units. When they don't rent, or rent poorly, he's not going to sell them even as their value drops.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/3665025173761008[/URL]

His name is John Dang on FB, and here are his 'reels':

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/johndang90/reels/[/URL]

And another, where he compares condo ownership in nine asian cities. His comparison is as such. He looks at how many years it would take to buy a typical 1-br unit in each city, based on average annual salary. Among them: Singapore and Japan 22 years, Korea and Thailand 25, HK 33, Indonesia 37, and Phils 42 years.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/804725195107952[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2935557]Something that a first time visitor should be aware of is that the Philippines doesn't have many direct flights between tourist centres. Most use a hub and spoke model passing though Manila, Cebu or Angeles. In practice, this means that a trip between two cities that are close on a map can be an all day affair of flights and connections. Hence, a planned 3 or 4 day visit can become only 24/36 hours of free time in town.

Previously I planned on visiting numerous places per visit. Now I've cut that number right down or I allow a lot more time.

Enjoy, G.[/QUOTE]The best way, is not to make detailed plans and bookings in advance, just figure it out when you're there. The prices are about the same for airfare and hotels if you book 1 month or 3 days in advance, unless there is a major holyday around the corner.

Another post from Filipina Pea:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noh7gtJGpZ8[/URL]

The vid is about pinay fears, and deals with multiple issues. Here is an excerpt:

"A cultural situation. You have to understand what it means to grow up as a filipina. [B]With your friends, family, parents and the church all telling you that your primary goal is to marry and reproduce, the mantra of: "Married With Children / Married with Children" is enough to give Al Bundy a migraine. But its pounded into our heads since birth, and becomes a bedrock of a filipina's identity.[/B] It also explains why so many of us filipinas have quite a past when you meet us, even at a young age. What is difficult for some foreigners to understand is that despite how slow everything else is here, the lifecycle of the filipina is sped up to such a degree, that if we reach the age of 30 without having a husband and at least one child, we're considered past our expiration date by society. We even get labeled as 'left-overs' if we find ourselves in that position.

SNIP.

You imagine that filipina you've been chatting with has been spending her time kneeling in church, but when you meet her it becomes obvious that she's been kneeling in other places as well".

Wondering. Is this the reason that many of us return to Pinay, even as they are less physically attractive than Indo or Thai ladies? Many of my long-time regulars are sex fiends, effing with wild abandon. Some are just very sexual, but many have admitted over the years, thru pillow talk, that they were trying hard to get preggers at the time. Also is this the reason so many pinay prefer not to engage with birth control?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2935710]Another post from Filipina Pea:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noh7gtJGpZ8[/URL]

The vid is about pinay fears, and deals with multiple issues. Here is an excerpt:

"A cultural situation. You have to understand what it means to grow up as a filipina. [B]With your friends, family, parents and the church all telling you that your primary goal is to marry and reproduce, the mantra of: "Married With Children / Married with Children" is enough to give Al Bundy a migraine. But its pounded into our heads since birth, and becomes a bedrock of a filipina's identity.[/B] It also explains why so many of us filipinas have quite a past when you meet us, even at a young age. What is difficult for some foreigners to understand is that despite how slow everything else is here, the lifecycle of the filipina is sped up to such a degree, that if we reach the age of 30 without having a husband and at least one child, we're considered past our expiration date by society. We even get labeled as 'left-overs' if we find ourselves in that position.

SNIP.

You imagine that filipina you've been chatting with has been spending her time kneeling in church, but when you meet her it becomes obvious that she's been kneeling in other places as well".

Wondering. Is this the reason that many of us return to Pinay, even as they are less physically attractive than Indo or Thai ladies? Many of my long-time regulars are sex fiends, effing with wild abandon. Some are just very sexual, but many have admitted over the years, thru pillow talk, that they were trying hard to get preggers at the time. Also is this the reason so many pinay prefer not to engage with birth control?[/QUOTE]I think, while it has a lot of truth to it, I think it oversimplifies the issues. In western countries, wealthier families send their girls to college. Most of them finish before having children. It is the same in the Philippines. In both places, it is the impoverished that, in general, are more promiscuous and pop out kids at younger ages. It is either a ticket out of where they are or something to do that gives life meaning.

I also think that religion and upbringing do play a large role. Babies are blessings. If a Filipina can see a future with yiu, they will almost always want a baby. It's happened to me twice with non-pros. And it is something we wanted.

I have been with other Filipinas (pros and semi-pros), and condom use is almost non-existent. One escort absolutely required it. The other wanted one, but when I didn't have one, wanted me to creampie her. A freelancer hated condoms and wanted me to creampie her every time (but I used condoms anyway all but one time hahaha). She was on pills. I asked her why she wanted that, and she said she just loves how it feels when a man puts a lot of cum inside (and I usually have high volume). She hopped on before I could put on a condom one time and tried to take it off two other times while we were fucking.

[QUOTE=Cjetset;2935639] Look at some of these big projects in China that are empty. That may eventually happen in PH and in some places already feels a bit that way. While I live in a house about 30 minutes north of Cebu City I'm currently using one of my partners condos this week and I can honestly say I think this building is only about 20 percent occupied at most.[/QUOTE]Hi CJ,

Great info. In my home town at the Gold Coast in Australia there has been multiple building issues with Chinese developers. It took them years to build a major development and now it's finally completed, they won't sell apartments until a certain section has sold. They must be paying a fortune on council rates and taxes on their unoccupied real estate. Another developer has been sitting on a huge vacant lot on our foreshore which is just plain ugly for a major, beach / tourist destination.

My question is, from a Phills perspective, how do do foreigners go about buying real estate in The Philippines? Not that I want to right now, but I always assumed it was like many other Asian countries where a foreigner could only 'own' 49% or less in a property or land. If that's the case, I've heard a lot of stories of people losing everything having a majority owner involved. A girl I went to school with ended up fairly wealthy and did a property deal in Bali and lost everything. She's now 55 and living with Mum / Mom because she didn't have equal ownership.

Regards,

Phil.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2935716]I have been with other Filipinas (pros and semi-pros), and condom use is almost non-existent. One escort absolutely required it. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2935716]The other wanted one, but when I didn't have one, wanted me to creampie her. [/QUOTE]F*ck! Hahahaha. No hypocrisy there!

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2935716]A freelancer hated condoms and wanted me to creampie her every time (but I used condoms anyway all but one time hahaha). She was on pills. I asked her why she wanted that, and she said she just loves how it feels when a man puts a lot of cum inside (and I usually have high volume). She hopped on before I could put on a condom one time and tried to take it off two other times while we were fucking.[/QUOTE]This should be on any Phils monger's required reading list. Quite indicative of many filipinas desire for CIP, or at least their willingness to let the guy decide*.

* The video posted was in regard to pinay fears and insecurities. One reason they often say "Its up to you" (bahala ka) regarding almost everything you ask her about, is submissiveness. Just as she would have trouble being involved in deciding where to go out to dinner tonight, she would be just as shy to tell you her desire for a condom or not. Keeping her mouth shut avoids controversy, but it risks here putting herself into a dangerous situation (pregnancy, disease). A risk her culture tells her to take in order to keep the peace now.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2935757]

My question is, from a Phills perspective, how do do foreigners go about buying real estate in The Philippines? Not that I want to right now, but I always assumed it was like many other Asian countries where a foreigner could only 'own' 49% or less in a property or land. If that's the case, I've heard a lot of stories of people losing everything having a majority owner involved.[/QUOTE]A few options:

1/. Send a bucket of money to your GF / wife and she buys / builds what you want in her name and formal ownership.

2/. Pay a lawyer or similar to be a nominee owner and sign contracts / mortgages to retain control.

3/. Build a structure on leasehold land.

4/. Own and control a company which buys the asset.

5/. Buy a condo.

6/. Decide it's all too hard and just rent what you want.

1 thru 3 are full of horror stories where a partner disappears with the cash or kicks the guy out 8. 7 seconds after the building is completed. 4&5 have their own headaches. 6 is so much easier.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2935798]A few options:

1/. Send a bucket of money to your GF / wife and she buys / builds what you want in her name and formal ownership.

2/. Pay a lawyer or similar to be a nominee owner and sign contracts / mortgages to retain control.

3/. Build a structure on leasehold land.

4/. Own and control a company which buys the asset.

5/. Buy a condo.

6/. Decide it's all too hard and just rent what you want.

1 thru 3 are full of horror stories where a partner disappears with the cash or kicks the guy out 8. 7 seconds after the building is completed. 4&5 have their own headaches. 6 is so much easier..[/QUOTE]Thanks G, I assumed that option 6 would be the way to go. As mentioned previously, I have no interest for the above reasons you mention.

I know a Canadian guy who owns a great little eight room hotel on Bantayan Island on the northern tip of Cebu. One of the best places I've stayed in The Phills. Now, the guy's really cashed up and this is basically his winter escape. But the stories he's told me of dealing with dodgy local authorities are mind blowing, but expected.

My idea of owning a hand / blow job bar way back when I first visited The Phills just won't happen. Too much research over time has made it obvious buying property or looking at business interests in The Phills is really risky. And then there's the 'corruption' issue to deal with. Phil.

First item, another recent Cebu Pacific promo. P1 flights out of Davao. See pic #1.

Second item, YT vlogger "Life Beyond the Sea", with a tale of being interrogated at his local BI office recently in order to get his visa extension. See pics.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqC1yMmDEMw[/URL]

During the extension, among other things he was asked: "Where do you live?" he had to draw a map on the application form. "I see you are married. Why haven't you applied for your 13 a visa (permanent resident / spousal)?" Normally I'd find those things intrusive. However there is a BI directive starting this year to interrogate (see pic #2).

In addition, at 7:30 in the vid, the vlogger explains that the BI no longer issues a stamp in your PP, but simply hands you a receipt, which they clip inside your PP. I think this is old hat operating procedure, in place for at least 5 years, that we are all aware of. He makes a good point: You should make sure that you don't lose that receipt, as its your proof of extension.

Also, after 1 year of in-country extensions, you might have to explain to the BI extension officer why you have *not* left the country (see last 2 pics).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2936101]
Second item, YT vlogger "Life Beyond the Sea", with a tale of being interrogated at his local BI office recently in order to get his visa extension. See pics...

Also, after 1 year of in-country extensions, you might have to explain to the BI extension officer why you have *not* left the country (see last 2 pics).[/QUOTE]Wow. The one huge advantage of the Philippines has always been the ease of long term stays. If that ceases or becomes a PITA, then expect a mass exodus and it to become far less attractive for new guys looking to move overseas.

G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2935954]

I know a Canadian guy who owns a great little eight room hotel on Bantayan Island on the northern tip of Cebu. One of the best places I've stayed in The Phills. Now, the guy's really cashed up and this is basically his winter escape. But the stories he's told me of dealing with dodgy local authorities are mind blowing, but expected.

My idea of owning a hand / blow job bar way back when I first visited The Phills just won't happen. Too much research over time has made it obvious buying property or looking at business interests in The Phills is really risky. And then there's the 'corruption' issue to deal with. Phil.[/QUOTE]It's not all doom and gloom. There certainly are guys who have successfully bought houses and / or businesses. As you've pointed out, the success factors seem to be having a healthy cashflow to work out any issues, a reasonably smart head in their shoulders and experience in country. Just arriving with the intention of buying an asset right away, sitting back and living happily ever after rarely succeeds long term. Make that business a bar and the odds drop considerably.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2936151]Wow. The one huge advantage of the Philippines has always been the ease of long term stays. If that ceases or becomes a PITA, then expect a mass exodus and it to become far less attractive for new guys looking to move overseas.[/QUOTE]Not so fast.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ41J3XPgmE[/URL]

Filipina Pea from this morning. Continued discussion of tourist visa extension applications. She interviews a BI guy. Applicant interview required (finding out if you are involved in a biz, apparently), your address / location required (possibly you draw a map of your home location). Might be smart to bring a copy of your rental / lease contract (10:10 in the vid). Telling the BI officer extension officer that you are just here to watch the sunsets might not be enough (8:20 in the vid).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2936101]Second item, YT vlogger "Life Beyond the Sea", with a tale of being interrogated at his local BI office recently in order to get his visa extension. See pics.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqC1yMmDEMw[/URL]

During the extension, among other things he was asked: "Where do you live?" he had to draw a map on the application form. "I see you are married. Why haven't you applied for your 13 a visa (permanent resident / spousal)?" Normally I'd find those things intrusive. However there is a BI directive starting this year to interrogate (see pic #2).

Also, after 1 year of in-country extensions, you might have to explain to the BI extension officer why you have *not* left the country (see last 2 pics).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2936151]Wow. The one huge advantage of the Philippines has always been the ease of long term stays. If that ceases or becomes a PITA, then expect a mass exodus and it to become far less attractive for new guys looking to move overseas.[/QUOTE]Speaking of. Right away, a few days ago when I saw several of these YT vloggers discussing the new 'interview' process, something dawned on me: The BI will be pushing all 'long-term tourists' (my slang for touristos who stay forever by extending up to 3 years, departing the country for a few days, then return to start another 3-year schtick) to either become a permanent resident (13-a or SRRV) -- or get out.

While I don't disagree with this idea from the host country, it would be better to announce this kind of thing in advance. It might have been smarter for them to reduce the 3-year stay to 1 year, then force the guy to become a permanent resident. Thinking about it from the host country's standpoint, allowing tourists to stay (virtually) forever might not be that smart. Instead of having such a consistent policy, it will now bear upon the applicant (after 1 year of extensions) to justify his existence in the country. That might be difficult to do, as there is no clear-cut policy to define such reasons for you to stay. Lazy tourist who just likes to stay here because its cheap? You are at the mercy of whichever officer in Intramuros reads your reasons this day. Have a live-in GF / partner here, but haven't married her? Same. Have a business here, but no license? All the more reason to throw you out. Been island hopping for a year, burning thru the poon? No solid residence would be an indication of a need to run from Immigration; goodbye. What happens if the interviewer asks you for proof of income? Can you do that? And if you can, but the income is less than required for an SRRV minimum ($800 USD / month I think), why would they give you an extension? AND SO ON.

Related YT vlogger video yesterday, Rob's Coffee Shop. Never seen the chap before, but he discusses just this topic, including vloggers (6:20 in the vid). It would appear that the government has finally linked all its computers together, and you can do the first year's extensions online. And apparently even vloggers have to get a work visa, and if they monetize more than $1000 USD, they must pay taxes here. If you go back to the Filipina Pea vid where she interviews the BI guy, she literally asks if such tourists can stay just because they like the sunsets here, and the BI guy says: "I would ask: Apart from that, what else are you doing here?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-9Hh_ZzNIw[/URL]

How would a Philippine Air flight in business class compare to a United Airlines Polaris business class flight coming from SF?

Would everything be pretty much comparable esp. A comfy lie-flat seat, a newish jet, good & varied food & drink or should I stick.

With the US carrier? I can save $300 flying Phil. Air but is it worth it?

[QUOTE=Shemp;2937919]How would a Philippine Air flight in business class compare to a United Airlines Polaris business class flight coming from SF?

Would everything be pretty much comparable esp. A comfy lie-flat seat, a newish jet, good & varied food & drink or should I stick.

With the US carrier? I can save $300 flying Phil. Air but is it worth it?[/QUOTE]I have flown Business class on Both airlines from LAX in the past 12 months. The PAL plane did not have the updated Bus class seating. (not lay flat) It was OK but not as good as United's true lay flat and I slept 5 or 6 hours. I have heard a rumor that PAL has been updating their Bus class so you might get a good one. You could try contacting a PAL office in LA or SF and maybe find out what they are flying now. (FYI, PAL customer service is awful). In my opinion the food was a little better on United. My favorite Business carrier between the three is Starlux thru Taiwan but it's hard to beat the nonstop flight. Last thought, If you care about Air miles the United Star Alliance program is much better than PAL's.

I always take PAL LAX to Manila direct, in the back with the peasants. Seems nice enough for me. Pro tip. I take the nighttime flight, get the window seat, lean my seat back, smash my pillow up against the window, put in ear plugs, take 2 ambien, and time travel 7 hours into the future. Don't even have to pay extra.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2937919]How would a Philippine Air flight in business class compare to a United Airlines Polaris business class flight coming from SF?

Would everything be pretty much comparable esp. A comfy lie-flat seat, a newish jet, good & varied food & drink or should I stick.

With the US carrier? I can save $300 flying Phil. Air but is it worth it?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shemp;2937919]How would a Philippine Air flight in business class compare to a United Airlines Polaris business class flight coming from SF?

Would everything be pretty much comparable esp. A comfy lie-flat seat, a newish jet, good & varied food & drink or should I stick.

With the US carrier? I can save $300 flying Phil. Air but is it worth it?[/QUOTE]Have been flying HNL-MNL for years. Business class always had lie flat seats. You can try Premium Economy class. I have flown that a few times also.

Ten days since a post here in the Gen Info thread; a bit slow.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=2930138&viewfull=1#post2930138[/URL]

A month ago I posted regarding big brother looking over your shoulder (with a confirmation from member MontanaM's experience in China). I don't think I mentioned Microsoft Recall*, but I should have. A couple links below regarding Recall and what it is and does. It was either already on your Windows machine, or would have been in an upcoming update. Briefly stated, it does the following: It quietly makes a screen-capture every few seconds, and saves the image in a folder on your local Windows drive. Every website, opened app, spreadsheet, photo / video editing session, skype call, etc. It also makes a guess as to what you were doing at the moment and saves that (by keylogging, URL's, and your mouse clicks, I'd guess). Then, later, when you want to bring up something you were working on previously (say, last week), and you didn't bookmark the web page, or you were working on something non-internet related (a spreadsheet, video-editing, etc), you can just type in the Windows Search box in English anything similar to what you were doing at the time, and Recall will bring up said (or similar) images, spreadsheets, app or YT vids that you were watching, and web pages that you were browsing (see pics). Supposedly a good thing for you.

* Also for reference, search / google 'MS Copilot' (or copilotpluspcs).

Privacy buffs were quick to point out Recall's dangers (do your own research here). Some of the dangers: 1) It uses up your hard drive space; and 2) It stores things on your drive that you might not want stored; and 3) There is a chance that said saved Recall materials on your hard drive might be auto-synced to the user's cloud account; or 4) Worse, said materials might be sent to the CPU / NPU** chip maker; or 5) Worse, said materials might be sent to a government entity (alphabet soup). One of these links is from a few weeks ago from MS, and one from Forbes:

[URL]https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/retrace-your-steps-with-recall-aa03f8a0-a78b-4b3e-b0a1-2eb8ac48701c[/URL]

[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2024/08/06/microsoft-warning-for-14-billion-windows-10-users-windows-11-free-upgrade/[/URL]

Originally it was to be included in a Windows Update (24 H2), and by default it would be turned on (unknown to the user, as most Updates occur automatically from Windows). Critics complaints caused MS to change the Recall install to the default being turned off (which you can turn on or off in Settings). My understanding is that MS is now considering not installing it at all:

[URL]https://betanews.com/2024/06/11/microsoft-has-quietly-withdrawn-windows-11-24h2-after-recall-privacy-fiasco/[/URL]

The NPU: [URL]https://www.techradar.com/computing/cpu/what-is-an-npu[/URL].

** Finally, discussion of the NPU (Neural Processing Unit, the newest AI CPU's). See Rob Braxman (YT security / tech vlogger): [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnG66fHKRw0[/URL].

MS Recall info at 4:15 in video, and NPU information regarding AI that is being built into new CPU's (at 9:10-:15 in the video), across platforms. In conjunction with Copilot + Recall, NPU's can automatically upload your device-stored Recall data to various clouds. Examples: To the OS maker (Windows, Apple), the motherboard maker, the CPU maker, alphabet soup, etc without your consent. And possibly without the knowledge of the OS, even if you turn off Recall. Even if you have encrypted your communications with a VPN, the Recall data can still end up in the cloud unencrypted, and where alphabet soup can get at it. Never will big brother have a better look over your shoulder while you work / play on your device. It boggles the mind.

How to know if your newer system has an NPU? Open your Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Delete keys), then click Task Manager, then click Performance (left side of TM), and look for both CPU and NPU (see pic). If you don't see NPU, you don't have one. In the future, you might not have a choice.

Apparently it may also become standard on iOS and Android, and everything else. Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=MrHawaii;2938181]Have been flying HNL-MNL for years. Business class always had lie flat seats. You can try Premium Economy class. I have flown that a few times also.[/QUOTE]Post like this pop up occasionally, and I can only laugh. No offense but you boys are in a different class from most of use. Gotten it a couple times with a,bunch of miles, yeah that's a different world from the back. You get off fresh as daisy ready to party and no time wasted in recovery. Comparing business is funny, anyone's business is better than in the back with cramped seats, no legroom crying babies and the rift raft throwing chicken bones and food. Business is around 6 k to 8 k dollars from US depending on city as I'm looking now. What's really funny I was in a GoGo last time in Manila and guy was telling me how much better it was is business. I agree. But then turned down a girl negotiating over 1000 p. 20 bucks. Now that is really laughable.

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2938107]I always take PAL LAX to Manila direct, in the back with the peasants. Seems nice enough for me. Pro tip. I take the nighttime flight, get the window seat, lean my seat back, smash my pillow up against the window, put in ear plugs, take 2 ambien, and time travel 7 hours into the future. Don't even have to pay extra.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with flying economy. Couple of ambien and you are flying first class. A dollar saved is a dollar earned. I like the $$ saved for nights of pleasure. Roughing it in economy for 10-12 hours is well worth nights of pleasure. Night time flights are the best. You land in the morning.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2940779]Post like this pop up occasionally, and I can only laugh. No offense but you boys are in a different class from most of use. Gotten it a couple times with a,bunch of miles, yeah that's a different world from the back. You get off fresh as daisy ready to party and no time wasted in recovery. Comparing business is funny, anyone's business is better than in the back with cramped seats, no legroom crying babies and the rift raft throwing chicken bones and food. Business is around 6 k to 8 k dollars from US depending on city as I'm looking now. What's really funny I was in a GoGo last time in Manila and guy was telling me how much better it was is business. I agree. But then turned down a girl negotiating over 1000 p. 20 bucks. Now that is really laughable.[/QUOTE]I always fly HNL to MNL via Tokyo or Incheon, simply because it saves quite a bit of money. Like someone else said, money saved is money earned. If it takes me 7 extra hours compared to a direct flight, including layovers, that's 14 hours extra round trip. If I save $600, then that's almost $40 per hour. I'm just working for myself then. I have better things to do with that money when I am sleeping most of the time on the plane anyway.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy9HUVzNkt4[/URL]

A new Phils permanent resident visa. $75,000 USD needed. From the video:

[B]2,401 views Aug 29,2024.

👉 For full visa details and how to apply: [URL]https://offshoreinasia.com/get-permanent-residency-in-the-philippines-with-the-fiv-investor-visa/[/URL].

The Philippines has released a new residency by investment program that gives investors permanent residency status in the Philippines. Visa holders are also eligible to apply for Philippines citizenship and a Philippines passport. The new golden visa program is administered by Freeport Area of Bataan (FAB), which is a special administrative zone just outside of Manila, Philippines.

Applicants will need to invest US $75,000 and pay an application fee. FIV visa holders will have full permanent resident rights to live, work and study anywhere in the Philippines.[/B]

And:

[B]Applicants are required to make a fixed deposit of US$75,000 and there is no minimum net worth or proof of income required. Financial qualification is solely based on the ability to make the $75,000 bank deposit.

Another key feature of this visa is that there is no minimum stay requirement. This makes the visa an excellent option for those who want to have a solid backup plan without making a significant lifestyle commitment. Its there waiting for you whenever you want to use it.[/B]

And unfortunately, the damage is not done with just $75,000:

[B]3 [i]Visit Philippines for onboarding

All applicants will attend a 5-day organized trip[/i]
At the conclusion, there will be an oath-taking ceremony
You will be granted Permanent Resident status after the ceremony

[i]There is an application processing fee of $20,000, plus $5,000 to cover expenses for the onboarding trip[/i].[/B]

And:

[B]One of the hidden perks of the Philippines FIV investor visa is that [i]if you complete the entire process and obtain citizenship, you will be legally allowed to own land in the Philippines, just like any other Filipino citizen[/i].[/B]

Wanted to add some levity to the conversations here.

[B]Background[/B]: I work in tech. We evaluate things on metrics. Its important for us. Wanted to extend this to this forum.

[B]MTGL[/B] : Mean time to get laid; time between arrival in the airport to kissing or fondling someone.

[B]WIB[/B]: Women In Backlog in a particular airport location who can be reached out for reduced MTGL.

[B]TSS[/B] Times you have been subjected to scams by women.

All mongers should measure these for better social status! Should we add any other metrics?

Hello fellow deviants! First time going to monger in the Philippines and I'm hoping to get some guidance. What are the pros and cons of Angeles City vs Manila vs Damaguete? It will be 3 guys traveling, all vets of Latin America. I also have experience in Europe. I think this trip would best be suited in a place where there are numerous club options for sex but also easy to pick up girls we might like just walking around town. Not trying to sell any dreams of marriage or a green card. Just want to have fun for a couple of weeks. Looking to go in April, so plenty of time for planning. Thanks in advance for your assistance!

[QUOTE=KbNagar;2941485]Wanted to add some levity to the conversations here.

[B]Background[/B]: I work in tech. We evaluate things on metrics. Its important for us. Wanted to extend this to this forum.

[B]MTGL[/B] : Mean time to get laid; time between arrival in the airport to kissing or fondling someone.

[B]WIB[/B]: Women In Backlog in a particular airport location who can be reached out for reduced MTGL.

[B]TSS[/B] Times you have been subjected to scams by women.

All mongers should measure these for better social status! Should we add any other metrics?[/QUOTE]PPW: Pops Per Week; how many times you cum in a week.

CPD: Creampies Per Day; self explanatory hahaha.

I may have fucked up big time.

I have booted up my play phone to find my WhatsApp has crashed and needs to be reinstalled. It opens direct to the "enter phone number" screen. I can't even access past messages, photos etc. I do, however, have a local backup on the phone.

Problem#1. The phone number used by WhatsApp has been in active for smses, calls etc for about 10 years so I can't receive a confirmation SMS from WhatsApp.

Problem#2. I can't open the existing WhatsApp to change numbers, transfer messages etc.

Does anyone know how I can restore the existing backup with out the phone number associated with the WhatsApp account?

Is there a web address that I can access / read WhatsApp messages on?

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2941506]Hello fellow deviants! First time going to monger in the Philippines and I'm hoping to get some guidance. What are the pros and cons of Angeles City vs Manila vs Damaguete? It will be 3 guys traveling, all vets of Latin America. I also have experience in Europe. I think this trip would best be suited in a place where there are numerous club options for sex but also easy to pick up girls we might like just walking around town. Not trying to sell any dreams of marriage or a green card. Just want to have fun for a couple of weeks. Looking to go in April, so plenty of time for planning. Thanks in advance for your assistance![/QUOTE]I assume you mean Dumaguete. Do not go there. It is too small for consistent action, unless you have existing contacts. Angeles city is a good option, but read up on it, as its changed a lot since I was last there. Its hard not to get laid there even with all the changes. The problem is theres nothing else to do there except eat drink and f)(Like other have already said, it's pretty much a shit hole with a lot of hookers in it. If you guys are young enough and got some game. Stay in manila. Lots of things to do and see, plenty or normals to hit on, and theres always burgos, but it will be more expensive than angeles. If you can change your destination, I would go to thailand, specifically pattaya, with a group of guys any day over Manila / Phillipines. Better infrastructure, way better food, comparably attractive women. Costs per fuck probably about the same, in the past philippines would have been cheaper, but I think its caught up.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2941506]Hello fellow deviants! First time going to monger in the Philippines and I'm hoping to get some guidance. What are the pros and cons of Angeles City vs Manila vs Damaguete? It will be 3 guys traveling, all vets of Latin America. I also have experience in Europe. I think this trip would best be suited in a place where there are numerous club options for sex but also easy to pick up girls we might like just walking around town. Not trying to sell any dreams of marriage or a green card. Just want to have fun for a couple of weeks. Looking to go in April, so plenty of time for planning. Thanks in advance for your assistance![/QUOTE]Skip Duma. I live there. It's not for mongers. As the other guy said, go to Manila (LA Cafe and Burgos) and Angeles. And Subic. You will get more pussy than you can handle.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2941649]I may have fucked up big time.

I have booted up my play phone to find my WhatsApp has crashed and needs to be reinstalled. It opens direct to the "enter phone number" screen. I can't even access past messages, photos etc. I do, however, have a local backup on the phone.

Problem#1. The phone number used by WhatsApp has been in active for smses, calls etc for about 10 years so I can't receive a confirmation SMS from WhatsApp.

Problem#2. I can't open the existing WhatsApp to change numbers, transfer messages etc.

Does anyone know how I can restore the existing backup with out the phone number associated with the WhatsApp account?

Is there a web address that I can access / read WhatsApp messages on?[/QUOTE]It can be a sh*t-show. Twice in the last decade, WA abruptly cancelled my account, and for no stated reason. Contacting them asking why they cancelled never returned a response. In addition, I lost a SIM, changed number (new SIM), and had exactly the same problem as you. Contacting WA, they suggested that I just make a new account. I wanted access to my previous contact chats, xfer messages, etc. , but WA would only suggest that I make a new account (which I did).

Regarding web access. You can download the WA Webb app. However, when opening it, it requires that WA will already be open on your phone. You open the app on the computer, and it shows you a QR code. You open the app on your phone, then click into WA Settings on the phone to tell it you want to connect to your computer app (it will open your camera), point the phone cam at the QR code on your computer screen, and the computer app connects to your phone's account so you can use it temporarily on your computer. You must keep WA open on your phone while you use the computer WA account. ANOTHER PITA.

Best bet: Make a new WA account with your latest number, start from scratch. Its easier for WA to not deal with your problem.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2941709]It can be a sh*t-show. Twice in the last decade, WA abruptly cancelled my account, and for no stated reason. Contacting them asking why they cancelled never returned a response. In addition, I lost a SIM, changed number (new SIM), and had exactly the same problem as you. Contacting WA, they suggested that I just make a new account. I wanted access to my previous contact chats, xfer messages, etc. , but WA would only suggest that I make a new account (which I did).

Regarding web access. You can download the WA Webb app. However, when opening it, it requires that WA will already be open on your phone. You open the app on the computer, and it shows you a QR code. You open the app on your phone, then click into WA Settings on the phone to tell it you want to connect to your computer app (it will open your camera), point the phone cam at the QR code on your computer screen, and the computer app connects to your phone's account so you can use it temporarily on your computer. You must keep WA open on your phone while you use the computer WA account. ANOTHER PITA.

Best bet: Make a new WA account with your latest number, start from scratch. Its easier for WA to not deal with your problem.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I feared the worst. I'll do some more research but it's not looking good for past messages and photos. Luckily I still have the contact list but remembering which of 97 Mary's in Cebu is a total waste of time and which is the raining BBBJ world champion might be a struggle.

Does anyone know why Craigs list is not popular here? I would think any site that offered free ads would be full here.

I went through every location and every category and many were empty, most only had one or two ads and only a few had more than 10. Category like jobs, not the sub categories.

I only saw 3 or 4 obvious ads from girls offering what we are looking for. , with only a couple other possibilities.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2941649]
Does anyone know how I can restore the existing backup with out the phone number associated with the WhatsApp account?
[/QUOTE]In this realm most of us older guys are doomed. Seek help from the younger generation that lives in that realm. Your best bet would be to go to 2-3 phone service shops. The ones that "unlock" phones. I bet one of of the guys there would know.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2941734]Thanks. I feared the worst. I'll do some more research but it's not looking good for past messages and photos. Luckily I still have the contact list but remembering which of 97 Mary's in Cebu is a total waste of time and which is the raining BBBJ world champion might be a struggle.[/QUOTE]Hi G and Westie.

Just for the info of others.

Just like backing up a phone or computer, I save all my new WA contact's phone numbers and pop them on a word doc for future reference or write them down.

I just tap on the three dots up the top in a chat, choose 'view contact' and then jot down their number.

I'd be lost if I lost those phone numbers.

Just my back-up plan as I know when things turn to shit, it's so frustrating.

As for your lost messages and pics G, commiserations. I'll have an SML for you.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2941775]In this realm most of us older guys are doomed. Seek help from the younger generation that lives in that realm. Your best bet would be to go to 2-3 phone service shops. The ones that "unlock" phones. I bet one of of the guys there would know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2941822]Hi G and Westie.

Just for the info of others.

Just like backing up a phone or computer, I save all my new WA contact's phone numbers and pop them on a word doc for future reference or write them down.

I just tap on the three dots up the top in a chat, choose 'view contact' and then jot down their number.

I'd be lost if I lost those phone numbers.

Just my back-up plan as I know when things turn to shit, it's so frustrating.

As for your lost messages and pics G, commiserations. I'll have an SML for you.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Guys,

Luckily the fix was much easier than expected: simply get another burner SIM, plug in the new number and the refresh automatically read the existing backup. The end result was all messages, photos, videos and contacts were reinstalled ie no loss of data.

Much better than I expected and I did it without the help of an eleven year old. 😜.

I was pretty concerned as is use WA for both meeting good and avoiding bad contacts. I never delete messages or contacts but just mark the psychos with an X. It's amazing the number of time girls will use different names, profiles and photos but the same contact details. The apps quickly recognise duplicates and the X let's me know not to waste any more time and just ignore her.

Thanks. G.

I know everything has gone digital, what social media apps are the best for hookups in AC now. I know about facebook and the klaw groups, personally most times I tried to meet girls online, it ends up being a huge time suck. So I always opted to go to freelance bars or nightclubs, then there is always the rail at phillys. With the high prices in AC bars, I'll just print business cards, walk into a bar and buy a girl a drink and slip her my business card, when she has a "Problem" she will call.

Lots of talk on the Manila and AC threads about Korean bars and girls prefer Koreans. Does that mean a Westernized Japanese guy like myself is out of luck at these bars same as a Caucasian guy?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2941775]In this realm most of us older guys are doomed. Seek help from the younger generation that lives in that realm. Your best bet would be to go to 2-3 phone service shops. The ones that "unlock" phones. I bet one of of the guys there would know.[/QUOTE]LoveItHere69.

The bonus I found one day on my first trip to Cebu was visiting a phone shop / shack on Mactan and a nice, pretty girl got me sorted. Within an hour there was a text message basically saying, "I'm the sales lady. Would you like to meet?

She didn't finish work until 11 pm and I knew I'd be pretty cactus by then.

I ended up 'bar-fining' her boss about 9 pm and had the best night.

Back in the days of the old flip phones, opportunities like these seemed to be better.

"If only we had social media back then" I sometimes think.

But then again, it was all creative and there just seemed to be surprises and opportunities arriving at every twist and turn on your travels in the Phils.

There just wasn't the opportunity to add them to your contact list on social media for next time as there is today.

Great times then and still good times to be had _ Phil.

[QUOTE=KabukichoDojo;2942021]Lots of talk on the Manila and AC threads about Korean bars and girls prefer Koreans. Does that mean a Westernized Japanese guy like myself is out of luck at these bars same as a Caucasian guy?[/QUOTE]Of course not!

I talk to a lot of girls in the bars of Angeles and Thailand. I ask them who their favorite nationality is. The consensus is the Japanese. They are the nicest, and they tip the best (overall, on the average). Not all, of course.

Oh, BTW. The consensus is that the Koreans, on the average, have the smallest dicks. Smaller than the Japanese. LOL! Actually, that's good for the Koreans. A lot of the Pinays do not like large dicks. They say it hurts. They like small dicks. That's the common answer when I ask them why they don't want to do Black guys. But that's BS. I ask them what if the Black guy shows them that they have a small dick. They don't answer that question.

To whom it may concern.

Cebu Pathetic has a two days seat sale to travel between Manila, Cebu, Clark, Davao to Bangkok. Sale period September 4-6, travel period September 4 to December 31.

Anyone interested to try some sawadi-ka.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2942758]To whom it may concern.

Cebu Pathetic has a two days seat sale to travel between Manila, Cebu, Clark, Davao to Bangkok. Sale period September 4-6, travel period September 4 to December 31.

Anyone interested to try some sawadi-ka.[/QUOTE]I bought 2 tickets yesterday from CRK to BKK for 1 peso each, you have to be flexible, because it's a bit tricky when you buy it. You have to change the date a few times on the price chart above the menus with the booking info, until you get to the cheapest one. The 1 p is for the airfare, then you pay the taxes and fees, it will show like 1800 p on the chart for the 1 p ticket. I ended up paying 3600 p for 2 pax. That's way cheaper than flying 1 pax to Cebu.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2942112]
The bonus I found one day on my first trip to Cebu was visiting a phone shop / shack on Mactan and a nice, pretty girl got me sorted. Within an hour there was a text message basically saying, "I'm the sales lady. Would you like to meet?[/QUOTE]Rarely do I hunt in the private sector. Too much work for me. I give up easily but one of my best stories 11 years ago. There is this "7. 5-8. 0" girl working at a mom and pop drug store. I am getting STD medication and get her number. I get all better and over 2 weeks later I am sexing her with no condom.

Just wanted to know what the norm is for Burgos and AC. Do you guys pay cash for each round of drinks or do you run tabs and pay when you leave?

For Pattaya Walking Street gogo bars I would never be worried about running a large bar tab but for places like Pasteur Street in HMC I am more cautious paying drinks per round or two on the first visit. It's more so they can see I'm paying attention.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2943329]Just wanted to know what the norm is for Burgos and AC. Do you guys pay cash for each round of drinks or do you run tabs and pay when you leave?

For Pattaya Walking Street gogo bars I would never be worried about running a large bar tab but for places like Pasteur Street in HMC I am more cautious paying drinks per round or two on the first visit. It's more so they can see I'm paying attention.[/QUOTE]In AC, when you make your first drink order, they write it on a chit of paper and put it in a small cup on your table. Each subsequent order (for you, or a LD for a gogo girl or waitress, or the barfine amount) is written on a separate chit and placed in the cup on your table. You should be able to grab all of them and total them anytime you want. This is similar to LA Cafe in Malate.

On Burgos, they just keep track of it at the bar. Its been some time, pre-covid, since I've seen anyone unhappy with the tab that he was presented with at the end of his evening. You can pay for each drink when they bring it, if you like. On occasion when I am sure that I am having just one drink in a bar, I will ask for the bill when the waitress sits the drink down on my table, allowing me to pay for it before finishing the drink, and waltz out later anytime I like. The same goes for some regular restaurants in Phils: If I am familiar with the place and they are often slow to bring my bill at the end of my time there (Bourbon bar and Cubana Cafe on Burgos come to mind, sometimes up to 15 minutes after I ask for it), I ask for the bill the moment the food arrives at my table.

I've just arrived Manila and have noticed some changes:

Compete the eTravel process at etravel dot gov dot ph BEFORE arrival. There are three steps: log in, created account and then click the travel icon and add traveller (s) details. Don't fuck it up as completing at the airport is horrendously slow and everytime the wifi drops out, you need to restart the process.

Check-in at my departure airport needed to see my (fake) onward ticket as I was returning in more than 30 days. NAIA Immigration didn't really care until I asked when I can extent the 30 to 59 days. She then asked where I was travelling and when I was (really) returning. She didn't give me any drama but just keyed in my truthful replies. She did need a hotel name that I was staying in upon arrival.

Visa extensions are now available immediately upon arrival at the airport. No need to go to an external BI office. Clear normal immigration, go up to the 2nd floor and amongst the government offices is a BI desk. 29 day extension available in 15 minutes for 3030 peso. Keep the receipt with the new expiry date.

Getting a Grab at the kiosk is a total cluster fuck. Just download the app before departure, gets local SIM and order your own. The info in the Grab website is incorrect: the kiosk and meeting point are at Bay 4 outside not Door 4. I paid skin tax and got a 30 day unlimited SIM for 2 k. Expensive but saves fucking around later and I needed data at the airport.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2943534]I've just arrived Manila and have noticed some changes:

Compete the eTravel process at etravel dot gov dot ph BEFORE arrival. There are three steps: log in, created account and then click the travel icon and add traveller (s) details. Don't fuck it up as completing at the airport is horrendously slow and everytime the wifi drops out, you need to restart the process.

Check-in at my departure airport needed to see my (fake) onward ticket as I was returning in more than 30 days. NAIA Immigration didn't really care until I asked when I can extent the 30 to 59 days. She then asked where I was travelling and when I was (really) returning. She didn't give me any drama but just keyed in my truthful replies. She did need a hotel name that I was staying in upon arrival.

Visa extensions are now available immediately upon arrival at the airport. No need to go to an external BI office. Clear normal immigration, go up to the 2nd floor and amongst the government offices is a BI desk. 29 day extension available in 15 minutes for 3030 peso. Keep the receipt with the new expiry date.

Getting a Grab at the kiosk is a total cluster fuck. Just download the app before departure, gets local SIM and order your own. The info in the Grab website is incorrect: the kiosk and meeting point are at Bay 4 outside not Door 4. I paid skin tax and got a 30 day unlimited SIM for 2 k. Expensive but saves fucking around later and I needed data at the airport.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]This is good information. For sure, PLEASE make sure you have the eTravel completed before you arrive in NAIA. Otherwise you will end up with those who didn't do it, trying to get signal to complete it. Just screenshot the QR code and save it in your gallery so you can have it to show (when they decide to actually check it). Same with your onward ticket. I've been asked for it 1 out of 5 times I have been there, and it was my last trip when I arrived in June before traveling on to Gensan.

As for Grab, it is a cluster fuck no matter how you go about it. I only had luck using the Grab app when I arrived at Terminal 2 flying in on PAL. For terminal 1 and Terminal 3, it is just a really long wait. I almost always default to staying at a hotel near the airport that has a free shuttle. I have my Philippines phone with globe sim that I activate on arrival and call them. 10-15 minutes later, I am on my way. I usually arrive late evening after 10, so one night there and then go somewhere else the next day, or go on to province. Whatever you do, don't take a taxi.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2943534]I've just arrived Manila and have noticed some changes:

Compete the eTravel process at etravel dot gov dot ph BEFORE arrival. There are three steps: log in, created account and then click the travel icon and add traveller (s) details.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. I did not know about this. It only took a minute make an account though. I also downloaded the app, but it won't let me use that because I have developer options enabled on my phone.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2943591]Thanks man. I did not know about this. It only took a minute make an account though. I also downloaded the app, but it won't let me use that because I have developer options enabled on my phone.[/QUOTE]Beyond my pay grade I'm afraid but remember you need to install the app AND click on the travel icon to key in your trip's details. Just adding your name, passport etc to the apps account isn't enough.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2943329]Just wanted to know what the norm is for Burgos and AC. Do you guys pay cash for each round of drinks or do you run tabs and pay when you leave?

For Pattaya Walking Street gogo bars I would never be worried about running a large bar tab but for places like Pasteur Street in HMC I am more cautious paying drinks per round or two on the first visit. It's more so they can see I'm paying attention.[/QUOTE]The thing is that usually when you pay, you leave the tip for the waitress, so if you want to tip her a few times, that's the way to go. Otherwise she will think that you are a cheap charlie because she doesn't know that there is no tip because you're not finished yet.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2943534]Compete the eTravel process at etravel dot gov dot ph BEFORE arrival. There are three steps: log in, created account and then click the travel icon and add traveller (s) details. Don't fuck it up as completing at the airport is horrendously slow and everytime the wifi drops out, you need to restart the process.[/QUOTE]The larger airlines won't let you checkin without seeing QR code is completed. I have travelled in and out of Philippines ten times over last couple of years, showed e-travel zero times.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2943329]Just wanted to know what the norm is for Burgos and AC. Do you guys pay cash for each round of drinks or do you run tabs and pay when you leave?

For Pattaya Walking Street gogo bars I would never be worried about running a large bar tab but for places like Pasteur Street in HMC I am more cautious paying drinks per round or two on the first visit. It's more so they can see I'm paying attention.[/QUOTE]For Burgos it's normal to go tab route. If it's a big tab expect them to try and add drinks to pad bill further. They do not leave receipts in cup on Burgos, all signed receipts go to bar. Worth keeping mental count of where you're think you're at if not too drunk to do so.

There is one girl in Maison I refuse to be served by as each time tried to screw far too much out. After they've ripped you off hand comes out for tips.

Not case in all places, some are decent, even in Maison.

Hi guys, has anyone been able to get a PH phone number with an E-sim? Particularly from Smart. Many other esim only do data. I want one with a number and data, preferably before I arrive in the PH. Has anyone got an esim with number? I want to stay clear of the physical card, bc I want my home number to also work while in the Ph. Has anyone done this way? I wanted to start a Gcash account too so I can use my credit card. Plus all the apps work on PH local number, so number is a must. Has anyone been successful at getting a esim with a local PH number, to make and take calls?

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2943677]Hi guys, has anyone been able to get a PH phone number with an E-sim? Particularly from Smart. Many other esim only do data. I want one with a number and data, preferably before I arrive in the PH. Has anyone got an esim with number? I want to stay clear of the physical card, bc I want my home number to also work while in the Ph. Has anyone done this way? I wanted to start a Gcash account too so I can use my credit card. Plus all the apps work on PH local number, so number is a must. Has anyone been successful at getting a esim with a local PH number, to make and take calls?[/QUOTE]"6 Best eSIM Plans in the Philippines for 2024", from:

[URL]https://cybernews.com/best-esim-providers/philippines/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2943677]Hi guys, has anyone been able to get a PH phone number with an E-sim? Particularly from Smart. Many other esim only do data. I want one with a number and data, preferably before I arrive in the PH. Has anyone got an esim with number? I want to stay clear of the physical card, bc I want my home number to also work while in the Ph. Has anyone done this way? I wanted to start a Gcash account too so I can use my credit card. Plus all the apps work on PH local number, so number is a must. Has anyone been successful at getting a esim with a local PH number, to make and take calls?[/QUOTE]I would check with someone in the area you're going to stay and see what's the best carrier there, particularly if you're going to the province. For example, in both places I stay, globe is good and smart has one bar or no signal. So getting smart is useless. I would even consider getting a cheap phone there to use as a hotspot for your phone or other devices you may need. I don't have to fill my main phone with a bunch of things I never use while in the US, and I can keep gcash and everything else separate. It's just what I chose to do.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2943677]Hi guys, has anyone been able to get a PH phone number with an E-sim? Particularly from Smart. Many other esim only do data. I want one with a number and data, preferably before I arrive in the PH. Has anyone got an esim with number? I want to stay clear of the physical card, bc I want my home number to also work while in the Ph. Has anyone done this way? I wanted to start a Gcash account too so I can use my credit card. Plus all the apps work on PH local number, so number is a must. Has anyone been successful at getting a esim with a local PH number, to make and take calls?[/QUOTE]I'm on postpaid plan, and my esim is from globe. So now you know that if you can't get it from smart, globe has it.

[QUOTE=Muttley81;2943631]The larger airlines won't let you checkin without seeing QR code is completed. I have travelled in and out of Philippines ten times over last couple of years, showed e-travel zero times.[/QUOTE]Hi Muttley and G.

I do the eTravel thing a day before I arrive just for the sake of it. Though I don't think I've never been asked by airlines or customs if I'd done it. Possibly once checking in just after covid.

Better to be safe than sorry.

As for the slack and basically non-existent customs check when arriving in Manila by air, I mentioned it to a Filipina who works for me and she offered a good excuse.

"We have hundreds of islands. If you're going to smuggle stuff into The Philippines, it's going to happen by sea. Why would you risk it at an airport?

_Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2943887]I do the eTravel thing a day before I arrive just for the sake of it. Though I don't think I've never been asked by airlines or customs if I'd done it. Possibly once checking in just after covid.

Better to be safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]I had not visited Philippines for 3+ years. But did so in February. I did not know about eTravel requirement until I was paged at the airport by Starlux airline to get it done or else I could not get on the flight. My fault. I was so used to the instant 30 day visa on arrival. Now a days it seems as if all the countries are constantly changing their requirements. Stressful doing the entry requirements and all the fake immigration sites to find the real ones.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2943887]I do the eTravel thing a day before I arrive just for the sake of it. Though I don't think I've never been asked by airlines or customs if I'd done it. Possibly once checking in just after covid.

Better to be safe than sorry.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2943913]I had not visited Philippines for 3+ years. But did so in February. I did not know about eTravel requirement until I was paged at the airport by Starlux airline to get it done or else I could not get on the flight. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2943534]Compete the eTravel process at etravel dot gov dot ph BEFORE arrival. [/QUOTE]

Thanks Gof, Phil, and LIH. Having never been to PI I didn't even know this was a thing. All I knew was no visa needed and thought that I had no prep work before entering PI.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2943340]In AC, when you make your first drink order, they write it on a chit of paper and put it in a small cup on your table. Each subsequent order (for you, or a LD for a gogo girl or waitress, or the barfine amount) is written on a separate chit and placed in the cup on your table. You should be able to grab all of them and total them anytime you want. This is similar to LA Cafe in Malate.

On Burgos, they just keep track of it at the bar. Its been some time, pre-covid, since I've seen anyone unhappy with the tab that he was presented with at the end of his evening. You can pay for each drink when they bring it, if you like.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Muttley81;2943634]For Burgos it's normal to go tab route. If it's a big tab expect them to try and add drinks to pad bill further. They do not leave receipts in cup on Burgos, all signed receipts go to bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2943618]The thing is that usually when you pay, you leave the tip for the waitress, so if you want to tip her a few times, that's the way to go. Otherwise she will think that you are a cheap charlie because she doesn't know that there is no tip because you're not finished yet.[/QUOTE]Thanks all for your replies. One of the few things that really irks me is having my bin padded at the end of my stay. If it costs me a few dollars more at an unknown bar at the end of the night so be it. Better that than having a wonderful night ruined because some waitress took me for a chump and added a few drinks to my tab. Paying a small tip each round would be less than having a couple of phantom drinks added to my bill, no? How much do you guys tip if your bill is say 40 USD?

I'm not known to be a big tipper in Pattaya. There is a reason for this. If I'm a big tipper then multiple fat waitresses will push girls to drink faster. I have a hard rule girls only get 3 drinks per hour and my gogo girls all know this. However, I'm not cheap. I award waitresses (and gogo girls) who know how to do things right and will hand them some cash on the side. For me it works out way cheaper than a girl chugging down LD's left and right.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2943935]Thanks Gof, Phil, and LIH. Having never been to PI I didn't even know this was a thing. All I knew was no visa needed and thought that I had no prep work before entering PI.[/QUOTE]Anytime entering a new country, consider browsing the country's Immigration website, and its Dept of Tourism website. Also your own country's Dept of State website, which has the most recent safety announcements for each country.

[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/[/URL]

[URL]http://tourism.gov.ph/link.aspx[/URL]

[URL]https://philippines.travel/[/URL]

[URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL]

[URL]https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/philippines-travel-advisory.html[/URL]

"ChainsawMan has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space".

CSM: Clear out your inbox.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2943887]

I do the eTravel thing a day before I arrive just for the sake of it. Though I don't think I've never been asked by airlines or customs if I'd done it. Possibly once checking in just after covid.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Manila for the past 27 years and travel in and out of the PH around 10+ times per year with my work around SE Asia and the Pacific.

The e-travel form completed 3 days or less before arrival shows up on the immigration officer's screen when you arrive at his / her desk together with the record of every previous trip that you have undertaken.

That is the reason it may seem to you that they don't "check" it. If you arrive WITHOUT having completed it, you will be sent off to do it and must join the line again. I have seen this happen time and again.

Be warned that the wifi is spotty and if it drops out mid-way through completing it you must start again. Even more reason to do it BEFORE arrival.

I have a registered account on the e-travel site so all I must do prior to arrival is submit my current trip arrival details and my address, passport number etc is auto-filled.

As an aside. Filipinos ONLY are required to complete the form for departure, but I nevertheless fill it out anyway because after 27 years I have learned to cover all bases.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2943958]"ChainsawMan has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space".

CSM: Clear out your inbox.[/QUOTE]Don't throw stones in a glasshouse:

"WestCoast1 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. ".

😁. G.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2944006]

The e-travel form completed 3 days or less before arrival shows up on the immigration officer's screen when you arrive at his / her desk together with the record of every previous trip that you have undertaken. [/QUOTE]Incidentally, Philippines isn't the only country requiring e-travel registration prior to arrival.

I have just entered Guam on an assignment and customs / immigration requires you to do an on-line declaration and show the officer the QR code that you receive by return email when you register.
I assume it's the same for all other US ports too.

Australia is about to introduce on-line registration instead of the paper forms. It's not a peculiar PH thing for those of you looking for ways to ridicule Philippines regulations.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2944006]The e-travel form completed 3 days or less before arrival shows up on the immigration officer's screen when you arrive at his / her desk together with the record of every previous trip that you have undertaken.

That is the reason it may seem to you that they don't "check" it. If you arrive WITHOUT having completed it, you will be sent off to do it and must join the line again. I have seen this happen time and again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for explanation, makes sense. I travelled a little when borders reopened after pandemic, and they used to have a line where they manually checked everyone's QR code on arrival (and vaccination card etc) before you were allowed to progress to immigration. Now there are some people stood around asking if you've done e-travel sometimes, so I presumed they'the caught out people at entrance to immigration who said they hadn't done it.

I am same as you, do it on exit also just in case. A lot less hassle to complete on app at home with good WiFi than have to complete in emergency at checkin.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944053]Don't throw stones in a glasshouse:

"WestCoast1 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. ".

😁. G.[/QUOTE]Its like looking in a mirror. . .

[QUOTE=DCups;2941702]Skip Duma. I live there. It's not for mongers. As the other guy said, go to Manila (LA Cafe and Burgos) and Angeles. And Subic. You will get more pussy than you can handle.[/QUOTE]So, I've heard AC is a real shithole, like Tijuana used to be. Dirty, smelly, unhappy, drug addicted working girls in the streets looking desperate, bottom of the barrel hoes. Is that about right? What about Cebu City? We are also going to Pattaya but want to visit Philippines too. Even if only to find a couple awesome working girls who clean up nice to visit some great beaches and islands. Would you recommend pipelining via Seeking, FilipinaCupid, Tinder or other such apps? Again, not so much looking for the girls who take 10 dicks a day. 5-7 dicks a week is okay though. Want the clingy GFE that knows it's just temporary!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2944254].... Dirty, smelly, unhappy, drug addicted working girls in the streets looking desperate, bottom of the barrel hoes. Is that about right?

What about Cebu City? We are also going to Pattaya but want to visit Philippines too. Even if only to find a couple awesome working girls who clean up nice to visit some great beaches and islands.

Would you recommend pipelining via Seeking, FilipinaCupid, Tinder or other such apps? Again, not so much looking for the girls who take 10 dicks a day. 5-7 dicks a week is okay though. Want the clingy GFE that knows it's just temporary![/QUOTE]Yes, yes, yes, some, yes, yes and yes. Crack heads (actually meth heads but let's not split hairs) are mostly confined to the streets and are blatantly obvious. Quality gogo girls won't say no to some party starters but true addiction to anything hard soon sees them fired and banned for performance and reliability issues. Its the one rule where the bars do actually discipline the girls.

I've given up recommending Cebu. To me, if you have a dick and a wallet, then you are going to get laid. However, numerous guys I've said this to have comeback and complained that it took too much time to find their feet. How this can be, I have no idea but there is no pleasing some people.

How fat and ugly are you? A group of well presented guys throwing bottles around any of the high end clubs will soon attract all the right type of attention. Don't be a simp and do some sorting and you will find some gorgeous girls. No online games required. Now, if that's beyond you or you prefer just to swipe away, Seeking and Tinder can be a real midfield of scammers and false promises in Cebu. Pina and Date in Asia can be point and shoot but pretty low end. Personally, I found Cuipd just in the middle with some very attractive girls minus the attitudes.

Enjoy. G.

I was talking to a Filipina and the topic of her joining me in Bali or some other destination outside of the Philippines came up and she said she has been "Offloaded" and can't leave the country.

What exactly is this? And how do you get around it? Curious as I have thought about flying her to me when I travel in Asia in less monger-friendly areas or just want an easy no hassle holiday girlfriend! I'll be return to SEA end of this year and want to see if this may be an option.

Was thinking, if I stopped in the Philippines and accompany her would that resolve the issue?

Normally I won't consider flying anyone to me but she's cost effective considering the cost of flights around SEA is not too expensive and if I have to stop in the Philippines, it can be made part of my stopover.

[QUOTE=Marxh;2944669]I was talking to a Filipina and the topic of her joining me in Bali or some other destination outside of the Philippines came up and she said she has been "Offloaded" and can't leave the country.

What exactly is this? And how do you get around it? Curious as I have thought about flying her to me when I travel in Asia in less monger-friendly areas or just want an easy no hassle holiday girlfriend! I'll be return to SEA end of this year and want to see if this may be an option.

Was thinking, if I stopped in the Philippines and accompany her would that resolve the issue?

Normally I won't consider flying anyone to me but she's cost effective considering the cost of flights around SEA is not too expensive and if I have to stop in the Philippines, it can be made part of my stopover.[/QUOTE]Offloading is when Immigration don't let a pina leave the country supposedly for her own protection from people smuggling, scam jobs and the like. It can also be because the Officer is having a bad hair day and decides to be a prick. If the girl is obviously broke, never travelled before and travelling alone then there is a very good chance that she won't make it through. However, it also happens to surprisingly well to do girls on occasion.

The biggest work around is for her not to fly alone. Definitely go, meet her and leave NAIA together. Give her a letter of Invitation and put a few bucks in her bank beforehand. Don't ask her to lie but prep her on potential questions and answers. She doesn't want to say she doesn't know where she is going with some guy she met in a bar last week.

Cost effectiveness is assessed case by case. Additional boat trips, parasailing and day trips soon mount up to waaay more than a local fuck. However, chilling by he beach and seeing natural highlights has little marginal cost. As you said it's not just about money. Having a known skilled provider on hand can be priceless esp of local providers are limited or simply poor performers. Unfortunately, this is common in tourist areas where girls only come across cashed up, gullible, short term guys and there is no incentive to give good service in the hope of repeat performance. Bali definitely falls into this category.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944355]Yes, yes, yes, some, yes, yes and yes. Crack heads (actually meth heads but let's not split hairs) are mostly confined to the streets and are blatantly obvious. Quality gogo girls won't say no to some party starters but true addiction to anything hard soon sees them fired and banned for performance and reliability issues. Its the one rule where the bars do actually discipline the girls.

I've given up recommending Cebu. To me, if you have a dick and a wallet, then you are going to get laid. However, numerous guys I've said this to have comeback and complained that it took too much time to find their feet. How this can be, I have no idea but there is no pleasing some people.

How fat and ugly are you? A group of well presented guys throwing bottles around any of the high end clubs will soon attract all the right type of attention. Don't be a simp and do some sorting and you will find some gorgeous girls. No online games required. Now, if that's beyond you or you prefer just to swipe away, Seeking and Tinder can be a real midfield of scammers and false promises in Cebu. Pina and Date in Asia can be point and shoot but pretty low end. Personally, I found Cuipd just in the middle with some very attractive girls minus the attitudes.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Rodeo, Goferring is correct, Cebu is not like it used to be but with a little luck fun can be had there or anywhere in the PI. I use FC but be careful, many scammers. I still go Manila, AC, Subic and occasionally Cebu and always manage get some good snatch.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2944746]Offloading is when Immigration don't let a pina leave the country supposedly for her own protection from people smuggling, scam jobs and the like. It can also be because the Officer is having a bad hair day and decides to be a prick. If the girl is obviously broke, never travelled before and travelling alone then there is a very good chance that she won't make it through. However, it also happens to surprisingly well to do girls on occasion.

The biggest work around is for her not to fly alone. Definitely go, meet her and leave NAIA together. Give her a letter of Invitation and put a few bucks in her bank beforehand. Don't ask her to lie but prep her on potential questions and answers. She doesn't want to say she doesn't know where she is going with some guy she met in a bar last week.

Cost effectiveness is assessed case by case. Additional boat trips, parasailing and day trips soon mount up to waaay more than a local fuck. However, chilling by he beach and seeing natural highlights has little marginal cost. As you said it's not just about money. Having a known skilled provider on hand can be priceless esp of local providers are limited or simply poor performers. Unfortunately, this is common in tourist areas where girls only come across cashed up, gullible, short term guys and there is no incentive to give good service in the hope of repeat performance. Bali definitely falls into this category.

Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]Question. Does BI keep a record of the offloading event? Or just no notation to the passport?

Cultural items previously discussed on this board, from the perspective of the Filipina Pea:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/h2JsXkjblxU[/URL] If you won a million $, would you divorce your spouse? Surveyed men and women answer differently.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxEEh-enNSI[/URL] Why pinay don't do birth control.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1clOWW7vf8[/URL] Driving in Phils.

[QUOTE=Marxh;2944669]I was talking to a Filipina and the topic of her joining me in Bali or some other destination outside of the Philippines came up and she said she has been "Offloaded" and can't leave the country.

What exactly is this? And how do you get around it? Curious as I have thought about flying her to me when I travel in Asia in less monger-friendly areas or just want an easy no hassle holiday girlfriend! I'll be return to SEA end of this year and want to see if this may be an option.

Was thinking, if I stopped in the Philippines and accompany her would that resolve the issue?

Normally I won't consider flying anyone to me but she's cost effective considering the cost of flights around SEA is not too expensive and if I have to stop in the Philippines, it can be made part of my stopover.[/QUOTE]Did that twice, going on cruises, from Singapore and Malaysia, with 2 different girls, because I wanted to be on those cruises, and I didn't want to go alone. You have to be with the girl, show where you're going and what you're doing there, hotels, air tickets, and most important return tickets for the girl. Second time I did it we had no return tickets, because we were getting off in Thailand, and I didn't know how long we will stay there. I had to book flights on the spot from bkk to mnl, and email the officer the reservation. Also very important is to have pictures together taken at different times, and different locations, to prove that there is a long term relationship going on. Don't lie because they are trained in catching that. The interview is not with the pass control guys, but with a different ones with piercing eye sights, and maybe you, and the girl will be separated. Have plenty of spare time, this may take few hours. After that the girl is "veted" and she can exit alone next time. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2944779]Question. Does BI keep a record of the offloading event? Or just no notation to the passport?[/QUOTE]Yes. Pass or fail is recorded.

Hi Guys,

I've done a lot of research on this, but everything seems to be conflicting.

I'm looking to open a bank account in The Philippines mainly for business purposes. It's cheaper for me to pay my suppliers in pesos as opposed to the universal $USD. It will also be convenient to transfer and receive some funds to and from a few girlie contacts. Yes, I've used G Cash, but it's not the ideal option for me.

I travel as a tourist even though I'm in the PH on average three times a year on business (and pleasure). The immigration process is just so much easier that way.

I've been told you have to have a resident visa, you can do it with an ACR card (only problem is I'm only there for three weeks max at a time) and I've also been told to sign up at a provisional bank branch who will be more lenient and accept 'a tip' (commission) for providing the service.

Just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2947521]Hi Guys,

I've done a lot of research on this, but everything seems to be conflicting.

I'm looking to open a bank account in The Philippines mainly for business purposes. It's cheaper for me to pay my suppliers in pesos as opposed to the universal $USD. It will also be convenient to transfer and receive some funds to and from a few girlie contacts. Yes, I've used G Cash, but it's not the ideal option for me.

I travel as a tourist even though I'm in the PH on average three times a year on business (and pleasure). The immigration process is just so much easier that way.

I've been told you have to have a resident visa, you can do it with an ACR card (only problem is I'm only there for three weeks max at a time) and I've also been told to sign up at a provisional bank branch who will be more lenient and accept 'a tip' (commission) for providing the service.

Just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]At BPI you only need your passport, the ACR card and a paper from the barangay stating that you have your address there.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2947615]At BPI you only need your passport, the ACR card and a paper from the barangay stating that you have your address there.[/QUOTE]That banks are privately owned and have different requirements. Please correct me if I'm wrong here, because this is also something good to know.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2947521]Hi Guys,

I've done a lot of research on this, but everything seems to be conflicting.
[/QUOTE]Exactly. Each bank is different. Each bank branch is different. Even the managers at the same branch are different. All will give you different answers so research does not mean much of anything. Pick the bank you want. Then pick the location you want and walk in and ask all the things you want / need. It is an open negotiation. If the manager needs to fill a quota he will bend some rules. If he likes you or does not like you he will deny or accept your business. The answer is just go in and do it. Just do not pick a Chinese bank.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2947615]At BPI you only need your passport, the ACR card and a paper from the barangay stating that you have your address there.[/QUOTE]Many Thanks O & Ug.

I've read that online, but as you'll see from my post, my circumstances are a little different.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2947719]Exactly. Each bank is different. Each bank branch is different. Even the managers at the same branch are different. All will give you different answers so research does not mean much of anything. Pick the bank you want. Then pick the location you want and walk in and ask all the things you want / need. It is an open negotiation. If the manager needs to fill a quota he will bend some rules. If he likes you or does not like you he will deny or accept your business. The answer is just go in and do it. Just do not pick a Chinese bank.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mate,

I thought as much.

It is the Phils anyway, and generally over quite a few years, I've worked out you can get what you want.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2947719]Exactly. Each bank is different. Each bank branch is different. Even the managers at the same branch are different. All will give you different answers so research does not mean much of anything. Pick the bank you want. Then pick the location you want and walk in and ask all the things you want / need. It is an open negotiation. If the manager needs to fill a quota he will bend some rules. If he likes you or does not like you he will deny or accept your business. The answer is just go in and do it. Just do not pick a Chinese bank.[/QUOTE]You're right. I tried to open a bank account at my bank (BPI) for my philippina GF while we were visiting in AC, and they sent her home to open the account, saying that it's not possible to open it in AC. When we got home on our island, she tried there and she was denied, then about a month later while in Cebu by herself, she was able to open it in 10 minutes at the same BPI bank. We insisted on BPI, because is the only bank on our island. My GF is a univ grad and also has a small business going on, no police record, and never worked in AC, why was she denied twice, then when she just walked in the bank to kill some time boom: approved on the spot, is beyond any logic, but in line with your above mentioned reasons.

Now she's doing the driver license, it's started like a cluster fuck already, and not the nice AC kind. I gave up in trying to help, because nothing makes sense, except the traffic signs.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2944006]I have lived in Manila for the past 27 years and travel in and out of the PH around 10+ times per year with my work around SE Asia and the Pacific.

The e-travel form completed 3 days or less before arrival shows up on the immigration officer's screen when you arrive at his / her desk together with the record of every previous trip that you have undertaken.

That is the reason it may seem to you that they don't "check" it. If you arrive WITHOUT having completed it, you will be sent off to do it and must join the line again. I have seen this happen time and again.

Be warned that the wifi is spotty and if it drops out mid-way through completing it you must start again. Even more reason to do it BEFORE arrival.

I have a registered account on the e-travel site so all I must do prior to arrival is submit my current trip arrival details and my address, passport number etc is auto-filled.

As an aside. Filipinos ONLY are required to complete the form for departure, but I nevertheless fill it out anyway because after 27 years I have learned to cover all bases.[/QUOTE]You sound like you have exactly the experience and expertise to answer a question (or three) about staying in the PI for longer than 30 days. Feel free to chime in here of course anybody who knows what's up.

So according to the Bureau of Immigration website: ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/[/URL]) if you're a foreign national and you want to stay more than 30 days, you have to apply for a Visa Waiver for a 29 day extension ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/visas/visa-waiver/[/URL]). (Incidentally, the link to the list of offices where you can apply for this is broken, but more on that later).

If you want to stay for longer than that you need to "secure extensions of stay with the bureau of immigration. " Side note: the listed place to apply for this is either at the main office or a list of offices with a link that redirects to the top of the page. There's a "checklist" ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/IRD04.QF_.007-EXTENSION-AND-UPDATING-OF-STAY-OF-TEMPORARY-VISITORS.pdf[/URL]) of documents you need to bring with you that really boils down to a single form ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/CGAF_IRD04.QF_.04-Rev.Lev-020_2023Jun08-1.pdf[/URL]) and your passport. This form really basically just asks for your address while in the PI and for your ACR card.

The listed steps on getting this "extension of stay" are as follows:

1. Secure the CGAF from either at the Public Information and Assistance Unit (PIAU) at BI G / F Main Office or from the official BI Website.

This is the "Consolidated General Application Form" (link above).

2. Submit the completely filled-out application form and attachments together with the passport to the frontline officer.

Seems easy enough.

3. If the applicant has no derogatory records, a BI Clearance Certificate shall be issued. Otherwise, the applicant must proceed to the Verification and Certification Unit for Clearance.

What kind of time frame does this take? Do they issue you this on the spot? Can you do this online? Can you do this at say the Philippines Embassy in the USA?

4. Get the Order of Payment Slip and proceed to Cashier for payment.

Of course.

5. Pay the fees and get the Official Receipt.

Uh huh.

6. Submit the Official Receipt with the application form, attachments and passport to the receiving / assessment Officer.

This is where you turn everything in to have a cop look it over, uh huh.

7. Claim the passport stamped with the requested extension of stay.

Seems easy enough, right?

If I wanted to say spend 3 months in the PI, running around the islands scuba diving, how much of this can I get done online before I get there? Am I going to be able to fill out the form if I'm going to be bouncing around from hotel to hotel and can't receive mail reliably? Do I need to get an ACR card? How long does that shit take? If I come from a non-visa required country, can I just stay for 90 days and pay a penalty when I leave? Will that keep me from entering the country later?

Lots of questions, I know. I figure if anybody knows, it's you guys. I stayed longer than 30 days in Thailand on accident once, and I had to pay a fine. That never became an issue for re-entering the country though, but I only let it happen once.

As always, the input is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Not relevant to everyone. But, here is the US Dept of Transportation's rules on you compensation is if you are denied boarding for an overbooked flight in the US:

[URL]https://www.transportation.gov/individuals/aviation-consumer-protection/bumping-oversales[/URL]

Pics for domestic and Int'l flight compensation attached.

Guys, what's the secret handshake to get a happy ending massage?

I've been walking around Davao, CDO et al for weeks and felt like a massage. I wouldn't say no to a happy ending but the massage was the primary focus. I found a sleezy looking hole in the wall near Peoples Park, it was pitch dark inside and had that grimy feel to it. I felt right at home. The price was 300 p per hour for an oil massage. The massage was good and strong with no wandering hands so at the end I signalled where she could continue. She just recoiled in horror explaining that it wasn't allowed. Not the end of the world but I would have enjoyed that additional relaxant. I paid a 100 p tip and left.

I'm familiar with massages in Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, even Singapore, where it goes without saying that your massage is going to have a happy ending. Most cases you have to tell them not to if you don't want it.

I've had several cases in the Philippines now where this is not the case. What gives?? What am I missing?? I know you can book out the girls to fuck in the nearest short time hotel but what if you don't want a full service, just a relaxing happy ending?? Is that not a thing here?

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948739]Guys, what's the secret handshake to get a happy ending massage?

I've been walking around Davao, CDO et al for weeks and felt like a massage. I wouldn't say no to a happy ending but the massage was the primary focus. I found a sleezy looking hole in the wall near Peoples Park, it was pitch dark inside and had that grimy feel to it. I felt right at home. The price was 300 p per hour for an oil massage. The massage was good and strong with no wandering hands so at the end I signalled where she could continue. She just recoiled in horror explaining that it wasn't allowed. Not the end of the world but I would have enjoyed that additional relaxant. I paid a 100 p tip and left.

I'm familiar with massages in Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, even Singapore, where it goes without saying that your massage is going to have a happy ending. Most cases you have to tell them not to if you don't want it.

I've had several cases in the Philippines now where this is not the case. What gives?? What am I missing?? I know you can book out the girls to fuck in the nearest short time hotel but what if you don't want a full service, just a relaxing happy ending?? Is that not a thing here?

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Pay a little extra, and have the masseuse come to your room. It's cleaner, and you have control over the session.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2948748]Pay a little extra, and have the masseuse come to your room. It's cleaner, and you have control over the session.[/QUOTE]So I'm correct in saying that generally speaking nothing ever happens on premises? It seems very rare and the opposite of everywhere else in Asia. I can understand BBBJs and full sex but how hard can it be to organise a handdy there and then??

[QUOTE=Goferring;2948766]So I'm correct in saying that generally speaking nothing ever happens on premises? It seems very rare and the opposite of everywhere else in Asia. I can understand BBBJs and full sex but how hard can it be to organise a handdy there and then??[/QUOTE]Oh no, quite the opposite, HJs and BJs everywhere, but not in all the high end spas, unless they have private rooms, not only some dividers or curtains.

I'm a "cleanliness" freak, therefore I don't like going to shady places, none of them have white sheets, and I think that's for obvious reasons.

In the high end places, the girls don't know each other very well, and they rat each other out. In small shady places, they are like sisters, they talk, share experiences and stories, and they try to bring business to each other, they all know which is doing what: this ones are doing BJs, only this one is doing FS, etc.

One of many stories worth mentioning:

Once walking in AC I was almost pulled by the masseuses in in this small shady massage place, I had one hour or so to waste before my date, and I said why not, let's get some warming up like the boxers before the fight, I knew that in this place there were no lady boys working because a waitress from Midnight Rodeo that I BF together with a GF of mine, for the purpose of a 3 some, told me that if I need a massage her auntie is working there, she's doing a great massage, and they don't hire LBs. The very small place looked clean, only with curtains dividing the 3 beds inside, the sheets were colored, with busy floral designs on a dark theme. I got naked and I layed on my back, minimizing the chance of rubbing my dick on the bed sheet in the same spot where the guy before me did. There where 2 good looking, and 3 so and so girls, of course I picked a good looking one, she started massaging my legs, and asked if I want one more girl since they are not busy, and no costumers all day long, I had that in mind anyway, and said yes. Soon after that one came in and started massaging the other leg, a third one peeked in and asked if she can massage my arm, I said yes, and I saw where this was going. Of course the forth one popped her head from behind the curtain, and I just said: bring your other friend in, and lock the door. I said I give you all 5 K total, get topless, and do whatever you want for one hour, I don't really care about the massage part. With just a little initial hesitation, all of them one by one took their blouses and bras off, and I had in an instant 10 hands on my area of interest, with 2 pillows under my head I started watching them having a specialty conference with live demo in tagalog about different approaches and techniques in the best way of making a man come, topless with hands on. They were talking, laughing, taking turns on trying different moves on my dick and balls, probably joking, because they were also pushing each other, and touching breasts and laughing and giggling. A very memorable experience, sensual and visual.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2947920]You sound like you have exactly the experience and expertise to answer a question (or three) about staying in the PI for longer than 30 days. Feel free to chime in here of course anybody who knows what's up.

So according to the Bureau of Immigration website: ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/[/URL]) if you're a foreign national and you want to stay more than 30 days, you have to apply for a Visa Waiver for a 29 day extension ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/visas/visa-waiver/[/URL]). (Incidentally, the link to the list of offices where you can apply for this is broken, but more on that later).

If you want to stay for longer than that you need to "secure extensions of stay with the bureau of immigration. " Side note: the listed place to apply for this is either at the main office or a list of offices with a link that redirects to the top of the page. There's a "checklist" ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/IRD04.QF_.007-EXTENSION-AND-UPDATING-OF-STAY-OF-TEMPORARY-VISITORS.pdf[/URL]) of documents you need to bring with you that really boils down to a single form ([URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/CGAF_IRD04.QF_.04-Rev.Lev-020_2023Jun08-1.pdf[/URL]) and your passport. This form really basically just asks for your address while in the PI and for your ACR card.

The listed steps on getting this "extension of stay" are as follows:

1. Secure the CGAF from either at the Public Information and Assistance Unit (PIAU) at BI G / F Main Office or from the official BI Website.

This is the "Consolidated General Application Form" (link above).

2. Submit the completely filled-out application form and attachments together with the passport to the frontline officer.

Seems easy enough.

3. If the applicant has no derogatory records, a BI Clearance Certificate shall be issued. Otherwise, the applicant must proceed to the Verification and Certification Unit for Clearance.

What kind of time frame does this take? Do they issue you this on the spot? Can you do this online? Can you do this at say the Philippines Embassy in the USA?

4. Get the Order of Payment Slip and proceed to Cashier for payment.

Of course.

5. Pay the fees and get the Official Receipt.

Uh huh.

6. Submit the Official Receipt with the application form, attachments and passport to the receiving / assessment Officer.

This is where you turn everything in to have a cop look it over, uh huh.

7. Claim the passport stamped with the requested extension of stay.

Seems easy enough, right?

If I wanted to say spend 3 months in the PI, running around the islands scuba diving, how much of this can I get done online before I get there? Am I going to be able to fill out the form if I'm going to be bouncing around from hotel to hotel and can't receive mail reliably? Do I need to get an ACR card? How long does that shit take? If I come from a non-visa required country, can I just stay for 90 days and pay a penalty when I leave? Will that keep me from entering the country later?

Lots of questions, I know. I figure if anybody knows, it's you guys. I stayed longer than 30 days in Thailand on accident once, and I had to pay a fine. That never became an issue for re-entering the country though, but I only let it happen once.

As always, the input is appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Nobody has anything to say?

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2948907]Nobody has anything to say?[/QUOTE]Extend your visa via the app, quick and simple. (eGovPH).

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2948810]Oh no, quite the opposite, HJs and BJs everywhere, but not in all the high end spas, unless they have private rooms, not only some dividers or curtains..[/QUOTE]Thanks. Sounds like what I'm familiar with. It looks like I just stumbled into the wrong one.

I usually pay $X for the massage then about the same again as a tip for the HJ. Is that also typical?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2949003]Thanks. Sounds like what I'm familiar with. It looks like I just stumbled into the wrong one.

I usually pay $X for the massage then about the same again as a tip for the HJ. Is that also typical?[/QUOTE]I don't do only HJs, only if it's a part of an BJ, or something else, but I think the price is not necessarily related to the price of massage. It depends on the provider, if she is stupid and misses the opportunity for some extra cash, whatever that may be, because she's only doing it for x amount of money, or smart and just does some relaxing hand movements instead of more hard work on your back and also gets rewarded with whatever extra tip comes her way.

In Brazil, HK, and other places, everything is included in price, you don't even have to ask for it, is just part of the massage.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2949011]I don't do only HJs, only if it's a part of an BJ, or something else, but I think the price is not necessarily related to the price of massage. It depends on the provider, if she is stupid and misses the opportunity for some extra cash, whatever that may be, because she's only doing it for x amount of money, or smart and just does some relaxing hand movements instead of more hard work on your back and also gets rewarded with whatever extra tip comes her way.

In Brazil, HK, and other places, everything is included in price, you don't even have to ask for it, is just part of the massage.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I wasn't suggesting the HJ was a fixed price or a %age upgrade. JUts a reference point.

I've seen prices all over the place. As you mentioned many shops and area have it included in the price. I've also said nothing, has the service performed as a routine inclusion and then tipped what ever I felt was appropriate. The other extreme is places like Bali that charge 80 k for a massage but will insist on 500 k from a horny but gullible tourist.

Thanks for the clarification. I'm off to do more field research. 😜

G.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2948907]Nobody has anything to say?[/QUOTE]Its because we are shy.

I will give it ye old college try. You can be in-country for up to 59 days without Registering. After 59 days, when you extend your visa to stay in the country, at the BI or online, you will have to Register. (its the law). I put that 'are' in capital letters as its part of the Alien Certificate of Registration. You do not have to purchase the card, but you must Register (technically as a tourist who is not going home after vacation). I think Registering costs about p400, and if you also get the ACR card its about another p1000 (covers the cost of making and mailing of your card), and you come back later to pick up the card. I always got the ACR card with my Registration as I was never told at the BI, when extending, that I had the option of Registering and not getting the card. Around 2018, for the first time at a BI office, the BI agent asked if I wanted the card with my Registration, and explained that I didn't have to purchase the card. I purchased the card anyway, as many vendors and locals believe it to be your BI tourist ID card when you are in the country. It has some advantages. BTW they don't mail your ACR card to you. You go back and pick it up when they notify you that its at the BI nearest you. Not sure if the main BI office in Intramuros makes them on the spot when you Register. Province BI's have always said it takes up to 30 days to get it from Manila, but its usually been 2-3 weeks I go back to their office to get it when they notify me. On one occasion I didn't get the ACR card, as I was only staying in-country a few weeks after my extension renewal.

But I digress a bit. If you want to stay for 3 months, you will have to at least Register at the 59 day mark when getting your next visa extension. Assume you have stayed the first two months on either of the following methods:

1/ You got your initial 30 days on a VOA (walk-in visa), as almost everyone does. Then after 30 days, you got a 29-day extension (that's the maximum allowed on the first extension). You are now at 59 days and must extend for 2 months.

2/ You applied early, before coming to Phils, thru a Phils embassy near you, for an initial 59-day entry visa, allowing you to enter and skip that first 29-day extension above. You are now at 59 days and must extend for 2 months.

At the end of your 59 days, you must extend for 2 months. They will charge you for the extension (about p2000), and additionally for Registering, and additionally for the ACR card (unless you say you don't need the card). Once you've paid for that and got your extension, you can stay for months 3 and 4, before having to extend again for another 2 months.

Whew! #thatsalottawordsalad.

There are fees associated with being late to extend. Having laid that groundwork, are you asking if you can skip all this stuff, bounce around the islands for 90 days, and simply pay the late fees on the way out? It sounds to me like that is what you are asking. The answer is a solid MAYBE. Have missed deadlines myself (as others have also reported here), and paid the late fees once. However I got lucky. I missed paying my Exit Clearance Certificate fee after 6 months. The outbound Immigration officer caught that and took me to a small booth where another BI officer took my money and late fees for the ECC and issued it. He looked me in the eye and said something like: "Lucky. I was leaving my shift is over and I'm the only one to issue these ECC's. If your a minute later you will have to stay in Manila over the weekend and go to the BI office and get your ECC". I am saying that your idea of whisking out of the country by ignoring the extensions might not work out. If the NAIA Immigration fee collectors (not the outbound Immigration officers) are not working in the evenings or weekends, you could be stuck.

Its pretty easy to bump into the nearest BI office for your 59-day extension, or do it online as OAU says. You have to pay the normal fees anyway, no sense not doing it and paying late fees later.

[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/acr-i-card-issuance/[/URL]

[URL]https://ph.usembassy.gov/exit-clearances/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2949014]
I've seen prices all over the place. As you mentioned many shops and areas have it in the price
G.[/QUOTE]The spa that I use in Manila has an option that is not stated in the description but is included in the price: 1000 php for a one-hour back massage with a flip-over and happy conclusion.

You don't have to ask. It is part of the deal.

I don't want to get them in trouble, so I am not mentioning where it is, but I will divulge it in a private message to respected board members.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2949024]Its because we are shy.

I will give it ye old college try. You can be in-country for up to 59 days without Registering. After 59 days, when you extend your visa to stay in the country, at the BI or online, you will have to Register. (its the law). I put that 'are' in capital letters as its part of the Alien Certificate of Registration. You do not have to purchase the card, but you must Register (technically as a tourist who is not going home after vacation). I think Registering costs about p400, and if you also get the ACR card its about another p1000 (covers the cost of making and mailing of your card), and you come back later to pick up the card. I always got the ACR card with my Registration as I was never told at the BI, when extending, that I had the option of Registering and not getting the card. Around 2018, for the first time at a BI office, the BI agent asked if I wanted the card with my Registration, and explained that I didn't have to purchase the card. I purchased the card anyway, as many vendors and locals believe it to be your BI tourist ID card when you are in the country. It has some advantages. BTW they don't mail your ACR card to you. You go back and pick it up when they notify you that its at the BI nearest you. Not sure if the main BI office in Intramuros makes them on the spot when you Register. Province BI's have always said it takes up to 30 days to get it from Manila, but its usually been 2-3 weeks I go back to their office to get it when they notify me. On one occasion I didn't get the ACR card, as I was only staying in-country a few weeks after my extension renewal.

But I digress a bit. If you want to stay for 3 months, you will have to at least Register at the 59 day mark when getting your next visa extension. Assume you have stayed the first two months on either of the following methods:

1/ You got your initial 30 days on a VOA (walk-in visa), as almost everyone does. Then after 30 days, you got a 29-day extension (that's the maximum allowed on the first extension). You are now at 59 days and must extend for 2 months.

2/ You applied early, before coming to Phils, thru a Phils embassy near you, for an initial 59-day entry visa, allowing you to enter and skip that first 29-day extension above. You are now at 59 days and must extend for 2 months.

At the end of your 59 days, you must extend for 2 months. They will charge you for the extension (about p2000), and additionally for Registering, and additionally for the ACR card (unless you say you don't need the card). Once you've paid for that and got your extension, you can stay for months 3 and 4, before having to extend again for another 2 months.

Whew! #thatsalottawordsalad.

There are fees associated with being late to extend. Having laid that groundwork, are you asking if you can skip all this stuff, bounce around the islands for 90 days, and simply pay the late fees on the way out? It sounds to me like that is what you are asking. The answer is a solid MAYBE. Have missed deadlines myself (as others have also reported here), and paid the late fees once. However I got lucky. I missed paying my Exit Clearance Certificate fee after 6 months. The outbound Immigration officer caught that and took me to a small booth where another BI officer took my money and late fees for the ECC and issued it. He looked me in the eye and said something like: "Lucky. I was leaving my shift is over and I'm the only one to issue these ECC's. If your a minute later you will have to stay in Manila over the weekend and go to the BI office and get your ECC". I am saying that your idea of whisking out of the country by ignoring the extensions might not work out. If the NAIA Immigration fee collectors (not the outbound Immigration officers) are not working in the evenings or weekends, you could be stuck.

Its pretty easy to bump into the nearest BI office for your 59-day extension, or do it online as OAU says. You have to pay the normal fees anyway, no sense not doing it and paying late fees later.

[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/acr-i-card-issuance/[/URL]

[URL]https://ph.usembassy.gov/exit-clearances/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks, WestCoast. I definitely owe you a beer or three. I guess my first step should be to visit the embassy here stateside. Cheers!

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2949406]Thanks, WestCoast. I definitely owe you a beer or three. I guess my first step should be to visit the embassy here stateside. Cheers![/QUOTE]Normally most of us just purchased an airline ticket and flew in for the 30-day walk-in visa (Visa On Arrival, VOA). For those who want to stay longer, we went to a BI office and got the first extension, which is for 30 days. All extensions after that are 59-day extensions.

You can pre-apply for an initial 59-day visa at any Phils embassy in the US (I used the embassy in LA). Costs was about $30 USD. You email, and they email back a visa application form, and a list of other required documents for you to send them (ie, passport, airline ticket, proof of income / bank statement, etc). You send them such documents and money, they mail back your PP and approved (or denied) 59-day entry visa. Upon arrival at Phils Immigration, you show your PP and approved Visa.

LOS Angeles Consulate website: [URL]https://losangelespcg.org/[/URL].

Their email: [B]"Please email ovas.lapcg@gmail.com for the requirements and application form"[/B].

This gets you your first 59 days in-country. To stay longer, a week prior to departure you go to any BI office (or apply online) for a 2-month extension. Cost is about p2000 ($40-ish).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2949501]Normally most of us just purchased an airline ticket and flew in for the 30-day walk-in visa (Visa On Arrival, VOA). For those who want to stay longer, we went to a BI office and got the first extension, which is for 30 days. All extensions after that are 59-day extensions.

[/QUOTE]He any anyone else can get the 30 day extension right at the airport on the day of arrival. Only available on the day of arrival. You cannot come back and do it days later.

Get the 29 days VOA at the normal booth after leaving the plane. Then find the BI Office in the terminal and they will extend it there and then. 3050 pesos and about 10 minutes.

G.

PS. Forgot to say you need to have pesos on hand to pay for it. ATMs nearby but peso cash is the only acceptable method of payment.

I thought about replying but you made everything too complicated when for your first visa extension it is easy.

Turn up at the immigration office with passport and 3 k. Fill in a form, pay the money, sit and wait for 45 minutes till your name is called. Go hunt some pussy in a nearby mall.

There are other ways to do it but this is my preferred method.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2949504]I thought about replying but you made everything too complicated when for your first visa extension it is easy.

Turn up at the immigration office with passport and 3 k. Fill in a form, pay the money, sit and wait for 45 minutes till your name is called. Go hunt some pussy in a nearby mall.

There are other ways to do it but this is my preferred method.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goferring;2949503]He any anyone else can get the 30 day extension right at the airport on the day of arrival. Only available on the day of arrival. You cannot come back and do it days later.

Get the 29 days VOA at the normal booth after leaving the plane. Then find the BI Office in the terminal and they will extend it there and then. 3050 pesos and about 10 minutes.

G.

PS. Forgot to say you need to have pesos on hand to pay for it. ATMs nearby but peso cash is the only acceptable method of payment.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I should have known that was available, somebody mentioned it here a few months back. Do we know if that first extension in the airport is available 24/7? If the BI employees doing the extensions are 8 am-5 pm only, or not available weekends, then the gents can go to a BI office. Is also available online now, right? In addition to getting the pre-arrival 59-day visa, Those here for only a few months should not have a problem.

I greatly appreciate all the feedback and nudges in the right direction. I think I'm actually going to make an effort to buy some beers when I'm in the islands. I have one question though.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2949503]He any anyone else can get the 30 day extension right at the airport on the day of arrival. Only available on the day of arrival. You cannot come back and do it days later.

Get the 29 days VOA at the normal booth after leaving the plane. Then find the BI Office in the terminal and they will extend it there and then. 3050 pesos and about 10 minutes.

G.

PS. Forgot to say you need to have pesos on hand to pay for it. ATMs nearby but peso cash is the only acceptable method of payment.[/QUOTE]Is this BI office only at NAIA? I was hoping to fly into and possibly out of Clark.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2949540]I greatly appreciate all the feedback and nudges in the right direction. I think I'm actually going to make an effort to buy some beers when I'm in the islands. I have one question though.

Is this BI office only at NAIA? I was hoping to fly into and possibly out of Clark.[/QUOTE]BI is all over in Philippines. Just search online.

There is a BI office in MarQuee Mall in Angeles. Takes a few hours for an extension. Drop it over and do some shopping and have lunch. There is a fixer shop to the right just before the BI, he charges 1 k and gets it done faster and fills out all the forms for you. You don't have to wait in a line.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2949800]BI is all over in Philippines. Just search online.[/QUOTE]True and I've found the smaller offices extremely easy to deal with. Walk in, pay your money and walk out. Certainly no need for extensive forms, queues or fixers. I don't know where Kenji is going but if there isn't a BI desk at CRK airport, it would be an option.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2949860]True and I've found the smaller offices extremely easy to deal with. Walk in, pay your money and walk out. Certainly no need for extensive forms, queues or fixers. I don't know where Kenji is going but if there isn't a BI desk at CRK airport, it would be an option.

G.[/QUOTE]There are 3 offices in Manila, one in Cebu, and one in Davao. I'm planning on going to all of those. But I'd still rather get it taken care of at the airport. Of course it's always also an option to get it taken care of at the consulate stateside first, which I am currently looking into. All the Philippines government websites are terribly shoddily run. There are broken links everywhere and lots of dead ends, kinda like doing business in the PI.

No offense, DG, but I don't trust "fixer" shops. I'm not trying to get stuck in the PI without my passport.

There's a 24 hour BI office at Clark. There's literally a complaint on google reviews that the "officers" there ripped someone off for 120 php by pretending they didn't have change. Imagine being pissed off about $2. 13 in a country that rife with corruption. I'd just consider it a "tip" and move on. What is he going to do with 120 php anyway, buy a yacht?

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2949905]There are 3 offices in Manila, one in Cebu, and one in Davao. I'm planning on going to all of those. But I'd still rather get it taken care of at the airport. Of course it's always also an option to get it taken care of at the consulate stateside first, which I am currently looking into. All the Philippines government websites are terribly shoddily run. There are broken links everywhere and lots of dead ends, kinda like doing business in the PI.[/QUOTE]There is a Makati office at the Ayala Circuit Mall, 5th floor, see pic. From Burgos, its about p120 in a taxi. That's the Pasig river along the top. Its about 2-ish blocks from the South cemetery. I like that particular office as its mostly designed for extenders, and rarely has a crowd of any kind (unlike the Intramuros BI). In fact, having been there several times, only once did I encounter another client such as myself. I also like the mall itself. Its large, open, clean, has a few decent restos, and an open-air food area good for having a coffee and watching the talent walk about.

[URL]https://mallsph.com/bureau-of-immigration-ayala-malls-circuit/[/URL]

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2949905]No offense, DG, but I don't trust "fixer" shops. I'm not trying to get stuck in the PI without my passport.[/QUOTE]Don't necessarily count the fixers out. If you see them in any BI office, they are wearing a special purple jacket, indicating that they are bonded / certified to carry your PP and money around. I have chatted up two of them, one at Intramuros and one at Circuit mall. The process is simple. You contact their company. They show up at your door in the morning. You hand over your PP and tell them what you want. They fill in the form for you (its easy), and they collect from you the exact BI fee required + p1000 (their fee). They return your completed extension receipt and PP in the afternoon to you.

They have their own special lane at the BI, they get quick treatment, and it will take them about 1/3 of the time to complete your task than it will take you. You must go to several different windows: fetching the form, dropping your PP with an officer, paying your fees at a different window, returning to the officer to show your receipt, then waiting at least an hour for them to process. Then you get called to yet another window to pick up your PP and extension. The fixer simply drops off a bunch of PPs to one officer and then sits down. That officer and another separate the PPs, one counts money and issues the receipt, the other does the background check and issues the extensions. 15 minutes while the fixer sits. Then the fixer spends 5 minutes going thru each PP and extension to see if there were any problems. Then he's on his way back to customers condos / hotels to return the goods.

Now that I live here, I have plenty of time and find it easy to handle BI office tasks myself. But when I was a 2-week warrior, it was much better to spend the day perving at LA Cafe, as opposed to wading thru grunt paperwork at a BI office.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2949905]There are 3 offices in Manila, one in Cebu, and one in Davao. I'm planning on going to all of those. But I'd still rather get it taken care of at the airport. Of course it's always also an option to get it taken care of at the consulate stateside first, which I am currently looking into. All the Philippines government websites are terribly shoddily run. There are broken links everywhere and lots of dead ends, kinda like doing business in the PI.

No offense, DG, but I don't trust "fixer" shops. I'm not trying to get stuck in the PI without my passport.[/QUOTE]No offense taken. I personally had the fixer shop do my extension a few months ago and had no problems with them. It was done in 90 minutes.

Years ago I was in Davao and passed by the small BI office. Instead of getting my extension later in Manila I turned around and went back the Davao BI. It was hot and I stopped and got a bottled water before I entered the BI. Outside was a security guard who looked very thirsty so I gave him the water. He was so happy that he walked me into the building, gave me a form to fill out and then took me to the front of line claiming I was a senior with priority. Then took me over to the cashier to pay and then had me sit and wait. 10 minutes later I had my extension was on my way. All in about 20 minutes there!

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2949905]There are 3 offices in Manila, one in Cebu, and one in Davao. I'm planning on going to all of those. But I'd still rather get it taken care of at the airport. Of course it's always also an option to get it taken care of at the consulate stateside first, which I am currently looking into. All the Philippines government websites are terribly shoddily run. There are broken links everywhere and lots of dead ends, kinda like doing business in the PI.

No offense, DG, but I don't trust "fixer" shops. I'm not trying to get stuck in the PI without my passport.[/QUOTE]BTW, the fixer at Marquee Mall has a permanent store front office there. They aren't going anywhere with your passport.

I had actually walked passed them and into the BI to do it myself. The bi personel were missing and about 20 people waiting around there. I wondered around to see where the starting point was and noticed a person walking by me holding a stack of 20 passports with a sheet of paper in between each one. I observed him going into a private office. At first I thought he was a BI personel then I realized he was a fixer. Then fixer was getting 20 passports done while there was no one helping the 20 waiting in the office.

That's when I remembered walking by the fixer and I headed back to him. After a few questions I realized the fixer had a professional relationship with the BI and could get it done faster. I highly recommend them if your time is worth 1 k.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2949995]No offense taken. I personally had the fixer shop do my extension a few months ago and had no problems with them. It was done in 90 minutes.

Years ago I was in Davao and passed by the small BI office. Instead of getting my extension later in Manila I turned around and went back the Davao BI. It was hot and I stopped and got a bottled water before I entered the BI. Outside was a security guard who looked very thirsty so I gave him the water. He was so happy that he walked me into the building, gave me a form to fill out and then took me to the front of line claiming I was a senior with priority. Then took me over to the cashier to pay and then had me sit and wait. 10 minutes later I had my extension was on my way. All in about 20 minutes there![/QUOTE]This to me is proof that the best "fixing" is the kind you do yourself with a little genuine forethought and charisma. I think it's one thing if you live in the PI and can afford to go to the embassy if a "fixer" accidentally "loses" your passport or something fishy along those lines, but if you're just bouncing around for a few months and have obligations to go to back home then you can't afford unexpected delays. That being said, I'd very much rather spend 1 k php than spend all day in lines. That time could be spent screwing the tits off hot girls instead; this is the PI after all.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950207]Then the fateful statement: she's just left school "because of financial". Gotcha. If we have some fun for the afternoon, then I'm happy to help you out.[/QUOTE]Has anyone seen any recent school fees? I'm just wondering out aloud how much they actually are and how much assistance a 1500 peso contribution actually is.

One girl mentioned 40 k for studying a real degree in a respected university. I have no idea how long that was for. I'm assuming a year? She also pays 2200 per month for her two bed boarding room.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950655]Has anyone seen any recent school fees? I'm just wondering out aloud how much they actually are and how much assistance a 1500 peso contribution actually is.

One girl mentioned 40 k for studying a real degree in a respected university. I have no idea how long that was for. I'm assuming a year? She also pays 2200 per month for her two bed boarding room.

G.[/QUOTE]What city is she studying? In province, a boarding house is about 700-1 k per month. In Manila region, a basic boarding house is about 1. 5 k monthly plus electric and water. This is usually done per room, and with shared bathroom. Many times you will have more than one person come in and share a room.

As far as university cost, it depends if it is public or private and what major area she is studying. Public university can be free if you're in scholarship up to about 20 k yearly. Private can be significantly more expensive than public, in the range of 50-100 k yearly.

My stepdaughter is looking at universities now, so these are the current prices we have gotten.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950655]Has anyone seen any recent school fees? I'm just wondering out aloud how much they actually are and how much assistance a 1500 peso contribution actually is.

One girl mentioned 40 k for studying a real degree in a respected university. I have no idea how long that was for. I'm assuming a year? She also pays 2200 per month for her two bed boarding room.

G.[/QUOTE]Hi G, I pay my student helper's tuition basically 3500 p / month in exchange for her cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping and anything else that has a long line. She has her own room and CR. Sometimes she has other expenses but it is not very much. I trust her.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2950659]What city is she studying? In province, a boarding house is about 700-1 k per month. In Manila region, a basic boarding house is about 1. 5 k monthly plus electric and water. This is usually done per room, and with shared bathroom. Many times you will have more than one person come in and share a room.

As far as university cost, it depends if it is public or private and what major area she is studying. Public university can be free if you're in scholarship up to about 20 k yearly. Private can be significantly more expensive than public, in the range of 50-100 k yearly.

My stepdaughter is looking at universities now, so these are the current prices we have gotten.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That basically meshes up with what I was expecting.

The girl I mentioned is in CDO. She did say that room costs vary wildly depending on how many beds and features included. A powered kitchen / AC makes a significant difference.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2950073]This to me is proof that the best "fixing" is the kind you do yourself with a little genuine forethought and charisma. I think it's one thing if you live in the PI and can afford to go to the embassy if a "fixer" accidentally "loses" your passport or something fishy along those lines, but if you're just bouncing around for a few months and have obligations to go to back home then you can't afford unexpected delays. That being said, I'd very much rather spend 1 k php than spend all day in lines. That time could be spent screwing the tits off hot girls instead; this is the PI after all.[/QUOTE]Government offices open at 7:30 am. I like to go to the BI at that time, because there is no line (except for the Intramuros BI office). For about 30 minutes, you have the run of the place. It can't get much easier. To be fair to timeframe, you have 2 choices at the BI office when extending. The first choice is to leave your PP with the BI office for 3 business days, then return to pick up the PP and extension; cost is about p2000. Second choice is to check on the application form 'Express 1-hour', which costs p1000 more, to get yours processed in 1 hour. You either return an hour later to get it, or just wait until they call your name if its completed early. When I am the only person in the office at 7:40 am, I am usually out the door by 8 am*.

OTOH, DG's example, he found the fixer by luck. In your case, the fixer can come to you on a motorcycle in the morning, and return your extension and PP to you for the exact same fee as if you walked into his office. Fixers work for / with travel agents. You contact most any travel agent in a mall and they can direct you to agents who do the 'fixer' work for you. Have any of you gents heard of an agency losing a PP?

* Caveat. Have had this odd situation happen before, once at Intramuros (covid), and once in the province. In both instances, the various BI officers handle the paperwork (intake officer, cashier, processing officer, etc), and the extension was issued with receipt and inserted in the back of my PP and set aside with the final officer. I watched it happen. It all happened in 15-20 minutes. I was the only one there. Then they waited, the last officer had it sitting on his / her desk. I walked over and looked at it, then sat down again. 45 or so minutes later: "Sir Coast? West Coast?" I walked over and they handed it to me. They made me wait the full hour. Still searching my mind why they would do that, but I was just a guest. Some small good news: If you use the Intramuros BI office, there is a Starbucks across the street.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950655]Has anyone seen any recent school fees? I'm just wondering out aloud how much they actually are and how much assistance a 1500 peso contribution actually is.

One girl mentioned 40 k for studying a real degree in a respected university. I have no idea how long that was for. I'm assuming a year? She also pays 2200 per month for her two bed boarding room.

G.[/QUOTE]Hard to answer this. Each school has different fees. You can contact the school and ask them their fee schedules. There are also exam fees and project fees, uniforms must be purchased, and so on. Regardless of the school's semester or annual fee, these other items such as test and project fees are additional, and a p1500 contribution in the province is considerable. Its also possible that your contribution might be for bola reasons: She might not need it for what she says, and she will end up throwing a booze-filled weekend with friends or her boyfie, showing up at Monday's class with a hangover.

One of my girls in Manila has a son in private school, at p32,000 per month. Your girl's 40 k might be per semester, or per year.

The rent sounds a bit high in the province, but not out of bounds.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2950724]Hard to answer this. Each school has different fees. You can contact the school and ask them their fee schedules. There are also exam fees and project fees, uniforms must be purchased, and so on. Regardless of the school's semester or annual fee, these other items such as test and project fees are additional, and a p1500 contribution in the province is considerable. Its also possible that your contribution might be for bola reasons: She might not need it for what she says, and she will end up throwing a booze-filled weekend with friends or her boyfie, showing up at Monday's class with a hangover.

One of my girls in Manila has a son in private school, at p32,000 per month. Your girl's 40 k might be per semester, or per year.

The rent sounds a bit high in the province, but not out of bounds.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I was just after a rough indication. I'm not looking to pick up any specific bills of the girls. Just wanted to know the impact of 1500 p. It seems it would be a significant help to the month's finances espnif she's in a provincial college

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950655]Has anyone seen any recent school fees? I'm just wondering out aloud how much they actually are and how much assistance a 1500 peso contribution actually is.

One girl mentioned 40 k for studying a real degree in a respected university. I have no idea how long that was for. I'm assuming a year? She also pays 2200 per month for her two bed boarding room.

G.[/QUOTE]I have first hand knowledge about this, my GF was paying 40 k / semester at the university of cebu, plus boarding, food and transportation, all that adds up, then once graduated there are all kind of accreditation exams, and board exams, and they all cost money and some require additional courses. I met her when she was graduated already, but I wanted to know all about it. Some years ago I met a pharmacy student and she was paying 38 k / semester in manila.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2950849]I have first hand knowledge about this, my GF was paying 40 k / semester at the university of cebu, plus boarding, food and transportation, all that adds up, then once graduated there are all kind of accreditation exams, and board exams, and they all cost money and some require additional courses. I met her when she was graduated already, but I wanted to know all about it. Some years ago I met a pharmacy student and she was paying 38 k / semester in manila.[/QUOTE]80 K Pesos an year for studies is manageable for folks in the US to sponsor someone to school (and it may be a good thing for thr world). Its a cost of SBUX coffee every day for folks in the US. Not big. My problem with these folks are two fold (a) they never show their school invoice and (b) more importantly would never allow you to pay them online. I do sponsor some kids education in some countries. One of the girls I sponsored is from India (since I am of indian origin) -- her mom works as a domestic help to one of my aunts in India. Every semester, the girl would send me her invoice, and ask me to log into her college account to pay her fees. She would reset her password after I paid. I could see all her transcripts. She had failed in english in one of the semesters, and I asked my aunt to get her an english tuition that I paid. Would prefer if these girls show that level of transparency. Lack of such transparency, its a game these girls play to extract money in creative ways.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2950718]Government offices open at 7:30 am. I like to go to the BI at that time, because there is no line (except for the Intramuros BI office). For about 30 minutes, you have the run of the place. It can't get much easier. To be fair to timeframe, you have 2 choices at the BI office when extending. The first choice is to leave your PP with the BI office for 3 business days, then return to pick up the PP and extension; cost is about p2000. Second choice is to check on the application form 'Express 1-hour', which costs p1000 more, to get yours processed in 1 hour. You either return an hour later to get it, or just wait until they call your name if its completed early. When I am the only person in the office at 7:40 am, I am usually out the door by 8 am*.

OTOH, DG's example, he found the fixer by luck. In your case, the fixer can come to you on a motorcycle in the morning, and return your extension and PP to you for the exact same fee as if you walked into his office. Fixers work for / with travel agents. You contact most any travel agent in a mall and they can direct you to agents who do the 'fixer' work for you. Have any of you gents heard of an agency losing a PP?

* Caveat. Have had this odd situation happen before, once at Intramuros (covid), and once in the province. In both instances, the various BI officers handle the paperwork (intake officer, cashier, processing officer, etc), and the extension was issued with receipt and inserted in the back of my PP and set aside with the final officer. I watched it happen. It all happened in 15-20 minutes. I was the only one there. Then they waited, the last officer had it sitting on his / her desk. I walked over and looked at it, then sat down again. 45 or so minutes later: "Sir Coast? West Coast?" I walked over and they handed it to me. They made me wait the full hour. Still searching my mind why they would do that, but I was just a guest. Some small good news: If you use the Intramuros BI office, there is a Starbucks across the street.[/QUOTE]This sounds like a pretty good strategy. From what I've gleaned from Google Fu, it seems that most of the BI offices in the provinces open at 9. I imagine it will be similarly empty around then, just 90 minutes later.

Thanks, Westie.

Tuition runs from 32 k-52 k a semester depending upon the major and location. A tourism degree is around 32 k while a nursing degree in Cebu is 52 k. Additional costs for projects and other assignments.

Monthly living costs range from 10 k-16 k a month depending upon dorm room and transportation costs. Food costs is probably the same in each location. Some dorms cost less but are further away thereby increasing the transportation cost. Some dorms costs more but are within walking distance.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2950655]Has anyone seen any recent school fees? I'm just wondering out aloud how much they actually are and how much assistance a 1500 peso contribution actually is.

One girl mentioned 40 k for studying a real degree in a respected university. I have no idea how long that was for. I'm assuming a year? She also pays 2200 per month for her two bed boarding room.

G.[/QUOTE]I had a girl recently who wanted to meet to pay fees. She is studying criminology in Manila. This is the semester fees. It does not include other ancillaries just Tuition.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2951001]I had a girl recently who wanted to meet to pay fees. She is studying criminology in Manila. This is the semester fees. It does not include other ancillaries just Tuition.[/QUOTE]That looks like a local community college tuition. Still need to add in room and board.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2950945]Tuition runs from 32 k-52 k a semester depending upon the major and location. A tourism degree is around 32 k while a nursing degree in Cebu is 52 k. Additional costs for projects and other assignments.

Monthly living costs range from 10 k-16 k a month depending upon dorm room and transportation costs. Food costs is probably the same in each location. Some dorms cost less but are further away thereby increasing the transportation cost. Some dorms costs more but are within walking distance.[/QUOTE]I once posted an ad offering to pay all costs for a student, all she had to do was live in and take care of me. So annual tuition costs plus 5 k or so for her monthly pocket money.

I got a lot of responses, unfortunately my place at the time was too far from any universities for it to work out.

However I had a lot of fun "interviewing' possible candidates. If I end up near a university, I will try it again.

Is free sex cheap sex??

Recently I have been hooking up with a girl who has a good job and her own money. She's 29, good looking, no kids so her body is still pristine and, I haven't paid for any allowances, inflated "taxi money" or fiscal "emergencies". Her only requirements are that she will not be seen going in and out of a cheap hotel for hookups with a foreigner and that I have to fit in with her work commitments. Frankly, the latter is not insignificant and organising one off dates, meals etc was a PITA. She's in my recent posts as the corporate girl.

So what has this "free" sex cost me?? I've moved out of a cheap Red Doorz to a Airbnb (+1000 p / day), I'm booking her Grab to and from work (+120 p / day). Food is a zero nett as 2000 p in groceries lasted nearly a week but she did the cooking so no restaurants or Grab Food.

The benefits?? After a lot of ground work, sex is on tap for 5 nights a week including most of the weekend that she stays here. I'm not getting any daytime infills. I was paying 2 k for two STs or one LT per day. However, this wasn't always straightforward with the usual online flakes, scammers, and misrepresentations.

I think financially, it's a wash and I'm likely breaking even. Sex-wise she's pressing all the right buttons and after a long visit I was over the nightly online dramas and scatter brained 19 year olds.

It will be interesting to see if there is a long game at play but so far so good.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954653]Is free sex cheap sex??

I think financially, it's a wash and I'm likely breaking even. Sex-wise she's pressing all the right buttons and after a long visit I was over the nightly online dramas and scatter brained 19 year olds.

[/QUOTE]That's about right. Its not cheap, its the cost of getting some trim. If you aren't paying direct p4p, its more like dating, with the money being spent in other ways. Is it cheaper to pay her to leave? Maybe. Depends on how much of her sh*t you can put up with (and for how long).

Even with my regular gals, there are additional costs besides the rewards money. Besides fare, there are meals, nights out sometimes 'going around', and other assorted sundries. Living here can be different than regular mongering strict p4p, the lines blur.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954659]Is it cheaper to pay her to leave? Maybe. Depends on how much of her sh*t you can put up with (and for how long).

[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone kids themselves that XLT it's cheaper to rent than buy.

I've learnt the hard way that it's much better for it to be in their own interest to behave and want you to stay vs give me the shitz until I pay them more.

Corporate girl is well aware that I'm here for a few weeks more only, not months or years, and that for me to return, this stay need to be an enjoyable experience.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954653]Is free sex cheap sex??

Recently I have been hooking up with a girl who has a good job and her own money. She's 29, good looking, no kids so her body is still pristine and, I haven't paid for any allowances, inflated "taxi money" or fiscal "emergencies". Her only requirements are that she will not be seen going in and out of a cheap hotel for hookups with a foreigner and that I have to fit in with her work commitments. Frankly, the latter is not insignificant and organising one off dates, meals etc was a PITA. She's in my recent posts as the corporate girl.

So what has this "free" sex cost me?? I've moved out of a cheap Red Doorz to a Airbnb (+1000 p / day), I'm booking her Grab to and from work (+120 p / day). Food is a zero nett as 2000 p in groceries lasted nearly a week but she did the cooking so no restaurants or Grab Food.

The benefits?? After a lot of ground work, sex is on tap for 5 nights a week including most of the weekend that she stays here. I'm not getting any daytime infills. I was paying 2 k for two STs or one LT per day. However, this wasn't always straightforward with the usual online flakes, scammers, and misrepresentations.

I think financially, it's a wash and I'm likely breaking even. Sex-wise she's pressing all the right buttons and after a long visit I was over the nightly online dramas and scatter brained 19 year olds.

It will be interesting to see if there is a long game at play but so far so good.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]It sounds like you're enjoying yourself. Live it up. Just be careful about catching feelings.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954667]I don't think anyone kids themselves that XLT it's cheaper to rent than buy.

I've learnt the hard way that it's much better for it to be in their own interest to behave and want you to stay vs give me the shitz until I pay them more.

Corporate girl is well aware that I'm here for a few weeks more only, not months or years, and that for me to return, this stay need to be an enjoyable experience.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I'm doing this for over a year now, it's not free, sometimes seem to be more expensive, even if you're not paying directly for it (but is exclusively my choice to pay for some of her expenses), but according to my calculations I ended up spending only 1/3 pussy money, compared to the prior years. Of course I didn't factored in the occasional 3 some or my escapades to AC.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954653]Is free sex cheap sex??

Recently I have been hooking up with a girl who has a good job and her own money. She's 29, good looking, no kids so her body is still pristine and, I haven't paid for any allowances, inflated "taxi money" or fiscal "emergencies". Her only requirements are that she will not be seen going in and out of a cheap hotel for hookups with a foreigner and that I have to fit in with her work commitments. Frankly, the latter is not insignificant and organising one off dates, meals etc was a PITA. She's in my recent posts as the corporate girl.

So what has this "free" sex cost me?? I've moved out of a cheap Red Doorz to a Airbnb (+1000 p / day), I'm booking her Grab to and from work (+120 p / day). Food is a zero nett as 2000 p in groceries lasted nearly a week but she did the cooking so no restaurants or Grab Food.

The benefits?? After a lot of ground work, sex is on tap for 5 nights a week including most of the weekend that she stays here. I'm not getting any daytime infills. I was paying 2 k for two STs or one LT per day. However, this wasn't always straightforward with the usual online flakes, scammers, and misrepresentations.

I think financially, it's a wash and I'm likely breaking even. Sex-wise she's pressing all the right buttons and after a long visit I was over the nightly online dramas and scatter brained 19 year olds.

It will be interesting to see if there is a long game at play but so far so good.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]It really depends on what you are looking for. Are you just wanting to dump your load and run, or do you want something more than that? I'm not talking about having a relationship, though it could go in that direction if you wanted it to. I think you have to factor in, too, the quality of the woman you are getting. It is nice to have a woman who can carry on a conversation and who has the skills to support themselves, whether or not you give them money or not. And, honestly, it is good to have a woman who hasn't slept with half of the men in their town.

That being said, sex is never free. You have to work for it and pay for it in one form or another.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2954723]I'm doing this for over a year now, it's not free, sometimes seem to be more expensive, even if you're not paying directly for it (but is exclusively my choice to pay for some of her expenses), but according to my calculations I ended up spending only 1/3 pussy money, compared to the prior years. Of course I didn't factored in the occasional 3 some or my escapades to AC.[/QUOTE]Also, if the guy chooses someone half decent then she will provide savings partially offsetting the costs.

Eg, she came home from the office for lunch. 58 p for Chow King plus a Mountain Dew. Contrast that to I don't know how many huge meals I've bought when eating with the daily catch off the internet. She wants to save money. Others want to impress by spending mine.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2954668]It sounds like you're enjoying yourself. Live it up. Just be careful about catching feelings.[/QUOTE]Thanks but it will never happen to me. I'm way too smart for that.

Famous last words. 😜.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954729]Also, if the guy chooses someone half decent then she will provide savings partially offsetting the costs.

Eg, she came home from the office for lunch. 58 p for Chow King plus a Mountain Dew. Contrast that to I don't know how many huge meals I've bought when eating with the daily catch off the internet. She wants to save money. Others want to impress by spending mine.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Mine has a business with 3 employees and few side gigs online, but still, her money is chump change compared to a modest US income, therefore I don't let her pay for nothing (but sometimes she still buys stuff from her own money) and as I mentioned before, most of my expenses are the same with or without her, and some are less, because she cooks, the only problem is that the filipino cuisine compared to the rest of SEA is the most fattening and unhealthy, and in one year of living together I gained 25 lb. She doesn't like eating out, we do it rarely or when traveling.

About trying to change the filipino mindset, about how things really are in this world: I'm still working on that, making very little progress.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954653]Is free sex cheap sex??

Recently I have been hooking up with a girl who has a good job and her own money. She's 29, good looking, no kids so her body is still pristine and, I haven't paid for any allowances, inflated "taxi money" or fiscal "emergencies". Her only requirements are that she will not be seen going in and out of a cheap hotel for hookups with a foreigner and that I have to fit in with her work commitments. Frankly, the latter is not insignificant and organising one off dates, meals etc was a PITA. She's in my recent posts as the corporate girl.

So what has this "free" sex cost me?? I've moved out of a cheap Red Doorz to a Airbnb (+1000 p / day), I'm booking her Grab to and from work (+120 p / day). Food is a zero nett as 2000 p in groceries lasted nearly a week but she did the cooking so no restaurants or Grab Food.

The benefits?? After a lot of ground work, sex is on tap for 5 nights a week including most of the weekend that she stays here. I'm not getting any daytime infills. I was paying 2 k for two STs or one LT per day. However, this wasn't always straightforward with the usual online flakes, scammers, and misrepresentations.

I think financially, it's a wash and I'm likely breaking even. Sex-wise she's pressing all the right buttons and after a long visit I was over the nightly online dramas and scatter brained 19 year olds.

It will be interesting to see if there is a long game at play but so far so good.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]TEHO It was great the first 2 weeks, then just see each other once every 2 weeks, then just once a month. My appetite just needs change.

Who's tracking whom. 24 hours of websites tracking me. #Didjaknow?

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2954854]TEHO It was great the first 2 weeks, then just see each other once every 2 weeks, then just once a month. My appetite just needs change.[/QUOTE]Waht is TEHO?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954924]Waht is TEHO?[/QUOTE]Tail End Hop Off? Had to google.

To each his own.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954959]Tail End Hop Off? Had to google.[/QUOTE]Thanks. That makes the original post so much clearer. 😜.

G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2954959]Tail End Hop Off? Had to google.[/QUOTE]Acroynm for To Each His Own.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2954994]Acroynm for To Each His Own.[/QUOTE]Google kumu meaning in phiippines.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2954996]Google kumu meaning in phiippines.[/QUOTE]I just know the meaning in Hawaiian. I can't see what it means in Philippines. It just says kumusta ka?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2954653]Is free sex cheap sex??

I think financially, it's a wash and I'm likely breaking even. Sex-wise she's pressing all the right buttons and after a long visit I was over the nightly online dramas and scatter brained 19 year olds.

It will be interesting to see if there is a long game at play but so far so good.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Like the way you operate G.

I've found you can bypass the bar-fine route and the young money grabbers and get return sex and long play.

Some guys are looking in the wrong places.

I befriended a regular bar waitress (not a go-go girl) a few years ago and always return to see her in Sabang. I'll be back there next month.

It's not a relationship, just friends with benefits. And yes, I reward her about 1000 p per day.

In March, I'll be taking her to Boracay, so I'll be paying for her meals and cheap Red Horse but accommodation is the same for one person as it is for two.

Compare the costs of taking a girl out for a meal and drinks for a night out in Australia, America, The UK and Europe without getting action at the end of the night, and it's a bargain in comparison.

Got to love The Phils _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2955033]

In March, I'll be taking her to Boracay, so I'll be paying for her meals and cheap Red Horse but accommodation is the same for one person as it is for two.

Got to love The Phils _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Have fun but I stopped taking girls on holidays to save money. Doesn't add up for me. Search my username for "Holidaying with a Hooker" for an in-depth cost benefit analysis. LOL.

That's the report where I caused a shit storm by saying it was cheaper to fuck her than feed her. Lots of guys got bent out of shape over that one.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2955047]Have fun but I stopped taking girls on holidays to save money. Doesn't add up for me. Search my username for "Holidaying with a Hooker" for an in-depth cost benefit analysis. LOL.

That's the report where I caused a shit storm by saying it was cheaper to fuck her than feed her. Lots of guys got bent out of shape over that one.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks G and I know where you're coming from.

This one has just been a loyal servant over the past few years, so it's a bit of a treat for her.

(Plus, I have a bit of business to attend to at the same time).

It's also guaranteed action for a week or so.

I wouldn't do my balls over a girl I've only just met and then spend up on holidays.

She's a long term contact and is a gymnast in the bed, so a cheap Air Cebu fare and the fact that she looks at Western priced menus in shock at the prices, means she's willing to cook too.

Then there's the bikini beach thing etc. Etc.

I've been to the Phils endlessly and rarely take girls on my side-travels.

Just the special ones that I've known 'long time' and are pretty much genuine friends by now who don't hit me up for money all the time _ Phil.

Hello,

Can anyone give me some extra tips for CDO besides the usual troll dating apps? I've found a girl to my liking at CDO and might want to fly over but I need backup plans in case she flakes. Where is the red light district in CDO?

Just a gentle reminder of how good we have it here in SEA.

Out of boredom I was reading the USA forum, and here are only two excerpts, there was no need to read further, to remember the terror of getting caught, and the price you're paying for very little action:

"Did anyone notice the mobile police cameras set up in the Target parking lot? I am not sure if they were intended for Target or aimed towards the ramen place. Any thoughts? I played it safe and went to one of the other spas this time, even though I finally found this location. ".

And another one:

"Found the place you're talking about on Maryland and flamingo, got a girl named Wendy. $260 total for 45 minutes. ".

And we are complaining that now we're paying $100 for all night GFE, unhinged in your own place, with the companion of choice out of hundreds that you can view and interview.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2955616]"Did anyone notice the mobile police cameras set up in the Target parking lot? I am not sure if they were intended for Target or aimed towards the ramen place. Any thoughts? I played it safe and went to one of the other spas this time, even though I finally found this location. ".

And another one:

"Found the place you're talking about on Maryland and flamingo, got a girl named Wendy. $260 total for 45 minutes. ".

And we are complaining that now we're paying $100 for all night GFE, unhinged in your own place, with the companion of choice out of hundreds that you can view and interview.[/QUOTE]Ya covid effed everything, everywhere.

Worse, that would have been covered for full service, with a 40-60 yo chinita. Worse, unless you've been with that gal before, you have no idea what extras are on her menu (if any) when you are in the midst of your rubdown. Maybe your horny self gets nothing, or you are given her even higher price just to shake you down.

OAU's comments were for AC gogos. But plenty of regular gals all over the country here can be had for less than half the price he mentioned.

And annuder ting. I guess the luggage situation at NAIA for outbound flights has taken a bad turn:

[URL]https://newsinfo.inquirer.net/1996382/baggage-delays-seen-at-naia-3-until-july?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawGHiIZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHe8_BEa-sLCLe98l_rmuf2VIQApqCV5oj2PPktrialL4oH6uNHUj7B7RGw_aem_Mx8xVLf5ok77rePrXN8-2A[/URL]

Many requests coming in for small help. The typhoons have been devastating. Typhoons as in plural.

I will give some to some.

Please no negativity here. Give if your heart desires to.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2955696]Many requests coming in for small help. The typhoons have been devastating. Typhoons as in plural.

I will give some to some.

Please no negativity here. Give if your heart desires to.[/QUOTE]This is true. My wife lives in South Luzon, and that area was hammered for days with heavy rain. No power for days on end. Our house was lucky to escape major damage, but places just down the road were demolished and swept away. We are trying to help those we know personally as we can. Meanwhile, girls I knew before in Manila are trying to convince me their boarding house in Pasay was swept away. Help who you can, if you want, and research just to be sure you're not being take for a sap. But, personally, I would rather err on the side of being generous any day of the week.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2955595]Hello,

Can anyone give me some extra tips for CDO besides the usual troll dating apps? I've found a girl to my liking at CDO and might want to fly over but I need backup plans in case she flakes. Where is the red light district in CDO?[/QUOTE]Hello, can I get some help with this? Thank you.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2955841]Hello, can I get some help with this? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I never heard of a red light district in CDO, maybe this is the reason why nobody's answering your question.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2955841]Hello, can I get some help with this? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I never heard of a red light district in CDO, maybe this is the reason why nobody's answering your question.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2955616]Just a gentle reminder of how good we have it here in SEA.

Out of boredom I was reading the USA forum, and here are only two excerpts, there was no need to read further, to remember the terror of getting caught, and the price you're paying for very little action:

"Did anyone notice the mobile police cameras set up in the Target parking lot? I am not sure if they were intended for Target or aimed towards the ramen place. Any thoughts? I played it safe and went to one of the other spas this time, even though I finally found this location. ".

And another one:

"Found the place you're talking about on Maryland and flamingo, got a girl named Wendy. $260 total for 45 minutes. ".

And we are complaining that now we're paying $100 for all night GFE, unhinged in your own place, with the companion of choice out of hundreds that you can view and interview.[/QUOTE]I agree totally. I was recently scanning Seeking for California out of curiosity. The amount of whales with ugly tats and piercings wanting to be treated like a "Princess" made me want to lose my lunch. I didn't even communicate with them but I'm sure they all want $1 K per meet. So yes compared to that SEA is pure Paradise. But Angeles is losing its charm and attractiveness and there are many better options in SEA if you live in the region.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2955595]Hello,

Can anyone give me some extra tips for CDO besides the usual troll dating apps? I've found a girl to my liking at CDO and might want to fly over but I need backup plans in case she flakes. Where is the red light district in CDO?[/QUOTE]CDO is a college town so it's absolutely full of gorgeous girls. That's the good news. The not so good news is that very few of them are point and shoot. I would go as far as to say I would bypass the whole town unless you planned to stay a considerable time and can commit to putting in a lot of ground work.

There are bars and clubs on Corrales Ave but these are full of groups of friends having a night out. No one is looking to make a quick buck sucking grandpa's dick.

My report on CDO a few weeks ago:

[QUOTE=Goferring;2947074]I arrived in CDO with a couple of buddies. [/QUOTE]

Why don't you meet her in Davao??

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2955841]Hello, can I get some help with this? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I'm with Go on this. Visited about a decade ago. Town full of pretty girls shopping in the malls, but not up for a roll with a foreigner. Believe that I wrote a negative report on the place at the time. Had about 20 girlie contacts from dating sites when I arrived who had agreed to meet / play, but every one of them turned out to be a dud. Only about half actually met for coffee, and none of them were of the opinion that she should come to my place (that day, or later).

There was a club called Fantastic, a gogo, but it was depressing. Girls aged 30+, one MILF, the rest were chubs / fugs. Barfine price at the time was higher than AC, and for ST only. Have a mate who lives in the area and he said (late last year) gogo prices are higher than the new AC.

There was a street walker area, but I don't remember the street. Dirty area. Might not exist now.

Would suggest that you are making a common mistake: Traveling to a provincial girl. Travel the girl to you in a bigger city. She will appreciate that, there will be more to do, and if she craps out you have big city alternatives. If she balks at this idea, and suggests that she wants you to meet her family / friends, she is looking for a boyfie. You OTOH want a hottie in your bed for a few nights.

Look what they are dealing with in the US upper-midwest (most recent post). You tip a girl to come have a drink with you, and you wait 90 minutes to get stiffed:

[I]Pretty and softspoken. Wears glasses, medium length brown hair, 5'2' thin, fit, toned, several tats, very nice smile.

With the small crowd in the bar, thought I would finally get a chance to sample her talents when she was available.

[b]Tipped her on stage, asked her to stop by. Said she would. Sounded good to me.

She left the stage. Brief visit to the ladies room. Then went to another table, sat and talked for 20 minutes.

Led him to the VIP. That session lasted 5 stage dancers /3 songs each. About an hour later, she exited VIP. Briefly spoke to 2 other men.

Sat down with another parton at the bar. 15 minutes later, took him to VIP.

When a dancer has customers waiting in line, don't trick me to stay. Just tell me. I will simply move along.[/b]

That was my cue to cut bait. Spent a couple hours, left with money in my pocket.[/I]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2955913]

Would suggest that you are making a common mistake: Traveling to a provincial girl. Travel the girl to you in a bigger city. She will appreciate that, there will be more to do, and if she craps out you have big city alternatives. [/QUOTE]Plus it removes the biggest road block to hooking up with a provincial girl: she may be shy to meet a foreigner but she's absolutely petrified that's said meeting will be witnessed by friends, family or classmates.

G.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2955913]I'm with Go on this. Visited about a decade ago. Town full of pretty girls shopping in the malls, but not up for a roll with a foreigner. Believe that I wrote a negative report on the place at the time. Had about 20 girlie contacts from dating sites when I arrived who had agreed to meet / play, but every one of them turned out to be a dud. Only about half actually met for coffee, and none of them were of the opinion that she should come to my place (that day, or later).

There was a club called Fantastic, a gogo, but it was depressing. Girls aged 30+, one MILF, the rest were chubs / fugs. Barfine price at the time was higher than AC, and for ST only. Have a mate who lives in the area and he said (late last year) gogo prices are higher than the new AC.

There was a street walker area, but I don't remember the street. Dirty area. Might not exist now.

Would suggest that you are making a common mistake: Traveling to a provincial girl. Travel the girl to you in a bigger city. She will appreciate that, there will be more to do, and if she craps out you have big city alternatives. If she balks at this idea, and suggests that she wants you to meet her family / friends, she is looking for a boyfie. You OTOH want a hottie in your bed for a few nights.[/QUOTE]What if I want to fly in sisters at once? Is that too ambitious?

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2956283]What if I want to fly in sisters at once? Is that too ambitious?[/QUOTE]Get their exact names on their ID's and birthdates to buy the airplane tickets.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2956286]Get their exact names on their ID's and birthdates to buy the airplane tickets.[/QUOTE]Have the girls send you a front / back pic of each of their VALID ID. Many girls don't have a valid ID. They might have no ID, or a college ID, or a Brgy ID. Phils recognizes about 13 various government valid ID's. The college ID, Brgy ID and senior ID are good for many things in Phils, but are not valid ID. Showing up at the check-in counter or security counter with a non-valid ID can get them turned away.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2956283]What if I want to fly in sisters at once? Is that too ambitious?[/QUOTE]Not at all. However, do NOT send them money so that they can purchase the tickets. You purchase the tickets in advance on your dime, and take a screenshot of the itinerary on the website (or app) and send it to them so that they are sure there is a ticket. About 48 hours prior to the flight, you will get an email telling you to check-in online. Do it, and you will get a boarding pass for each girl. Screen-shot those and send it to the girls. You will also need to send them p1000 each for fare from her / their home to the airport (its 45 minutes van ride to the Laguindingan airport in a van from the LimKetkai Mall). Its a taxi ride from NAIA to your place, so another p400 for that. In additon to whatever financial compensation you agree to for their time, you should probably give them each an extra p1000 for their expenses going back from your place in Manila to NAIA, then the van ride and jeeps / trykes home from Laguindingan to their home. A possibility is that the girls will change their mind at the last moment and not come. You lose the advance money you sent for fare and have to live with that (the cost of doing biz). This is the reason that you don't send them p8000 each to purchase their own airfare.

When you purchase the tix online, you will have a choice: Pay less for non-refundable tix. Or pay more (about p1000) and get your money put into your online airline account (ie, Cebu Pacific), for use at a later time). You might need to make an account, it costs nothing.

Another consideration is time. As you have never met the girls before and are not sure of their personalities, you must consider how much time you want to spend with them initially. I would recommend something short, like 2 nights. If they are duds, or if they are pushy or a-holes once you meet, 3 days / 2 nights might seem like an eternity. If they are great, it might seem way too short. Either way, for luggage purchase for the airline, you will need to decide if they each should bring a carry-on bag / packpack for a few panties and a change or 2 of clothes, or a larger suitcase. The extra suitcase (checked luggage) will cost more. I usually have the girls bring a large carry-on bag and no luggage.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2956283]What if I want to fly in sisters at once? Is that too ambitious?[/QUOTE]Despite what WC says in his detailed post, I suggest that it is too ambitious because you have never met them in person yet.

Remember the 2 cardinal rules for living and working in the PH (from someone who has lived and worked here for 28 years).

- "if something can go wrong, it will" and,

- "for anything that you do, there is always one extra step".

There are so many moving parts in a plan like that. Too many places where rule 1 comes into play.

I suggest you fly to CDO and have fun there.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2955595]Hello,

Can anyone give me some extra tips for CDO besides the usual troll dating apps? I've found a girl to my liking at CDO and might want to fly over but I need backup plans in case she flakes. Where is the red light district in CDO?[/QUOTE]All online meetings have an average 80% no show no reply history in nearly all countries. You are willing to waste your time and money going there? Fine. This 10 years old info from me. The bars you are seeking were just north of the Plaza Divisoria (the long narrow park). North of that park runnning east-west: Cruz Taal, Gomez, and J. Are. Borja Streets. That is the bar area for girls. They had similar prices to Angeles City at that time. I was expecting lower prices but no go.

Street girls are in the north-south Don Apolinar Velez Street roughly from Gomez St at the south end up to Montalban Street. I remember all of them being on the west (left) side of the street.

CDO has bars now too. How do I know this. Common sense. Right now I am in Province: Abra. City Bangued. Bar girl price is 2500 p for 3 hours. 1st bar 9 girls (1 doable). 2nd bar 6 girls (busy drinking with customers so could not see any). 3rd bar 7 girls (no good). City of Bangued has a population of 50,000 and CDO has a population of 800,000 which is 16 times larger. But in the last 10 years they may have had a mayor that outlawed those types of bars. That simple means they are now just outside the city limits. Saw this in another city in the southern part of Luzon island but too long ago to remember which city.

Your chance of success with just the one sister I put at 15%. Both sisters 5%.

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;2956283]What if I want to fly in sisters at once? Is that too ambitious?[/QUOTE]Mate, Westie provides some great info on how it can be done, but as Red Kilt mentions, anything can go wrong in The Phils.

Is it really worth the effort?

I must add that Westie's info is invaluable for anyone looking to fly a girl in their direction.

Personally, I've only done this with a girl I know and not a stranger online.

It must also be noted that some girls can happily ride with two / three others on a motorcycle and are used to squishing up with many others on a bumpy jeepney ride on shit roads.

But when it comes to flying for the first time, they shit themselves (not literally).

_ Phil.

Is free sex cheap sex II.

An update how the costs of "free" sex has changed after about two weeks.

Corporate Girl has basically moved into my AirBnB, going to work every day and returning here every night.

Costs to me have remained largely the same. I'm paying an extra 1 k per day to upgrade from a cheap hotel to the Airbnb, her daily taxi to work is 120, increased food cost is trivial as either she cooks or we split a Grab Food that I would have ordered anyway. Still no cash payment to her unless you want to count 2 k I gave for her younger brother's food, transport etc to watch her house, feed her dogs etc. That seemed fair considering it's been empty for two weeks.

A dirty weekend out of town together was 1100 for her return bus fare, no increased accommodation cost for a cheap Airbnb, pasalubong for the family was 1100 and I bought her two blouses for 1200 total. Food costs were minimal as she watched what she spent. Saturday night out was one SML Apple for the evening.

I think I'm still paying about the same as a typical 2 k per day for STs or a LT provider. Clearly, I'm well ahead if we allow for bar fines and lady drinks. It's certainly much less stress and more sure fire. She's also now aware of my likes and dislikes now so I don't have to train newcomers every night.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2956563]Is free sex cheap sex II.

An update how the costs of "free" sex has changed after about two weeks.
Clearly, I'm well ahead if we allow for bar fines and lady drinks. It's certainly much less stress and more sure fire. She's also now aware of my likes and dislikes now so I don't have to train newcomers every night.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Way to go G.

I worked out early on it's not all about the bar scene.

Sure, there's no such thing as free sex anywhere in the world.

You can have a great deal of fun by rewarding in other ways, and the rewards generally come back to you and the girls are great contacts to retain for the future.

_ Phil.

This is travel-related for Filipinas and not directly mongering related, so please delete admin if not appropriate for this forum.

This has been touched on in some areas, but I'm seeking further clarification. I know that it is problematic for Filipinas to travel outside the country sometimes, and offloading is a real concern. Are there any guidelines for when it is appropriate for immigration to offload someone from a plane and how to best prevent it? My partner would love to visit Singapore, and I'the like to make that happen and take her there for a week next summer. If there is a round trip ticket and hotel that is paid for, would that prevent her from being offloaded? Same question for my wife, who would like to vacation in Thailand this summer for a couple of weeks with me and a friend of mine who owns land there. There would be a round trip ticket, but open itinerary for our time there, as it would depend on my friend and what she wants to show us. Will being married to me prevent her from being offloaded? It's a lot of moving parts and I don't want things to fall apart in the airport for either situation!

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2956815]This is travel-related for Filipinas and not directly mongering related, so please delete admin if not appropriate for this forum.

This has been touched on in some areas, but I'm seeking further clarification. I know that it is problematic for Filipinas to travel outside the country sometimes, and offloading is a real concern. Are there any guidelines for when it is appropriate for immigration to offload someone from a plane and how to best prevent it? My partner would love to visit Singapore, and I'the like to make that happen and take her there for a week next summer. If there is a round trip ticket and hotel that is paid for, would that prevent her from being offloaded? Same question for my wife, who would like to vacation in Thailand this summer for a couple of weeks with me and a friend of mine who owns land there. There would be a round trip ticket, but open itinerary for our time there, as it would depend on my friend and what she wants to show us. Will being married to me prevent her from being offloaded? It's a lot of moving parts and I don't want things to fall apart in the airport for either situation![/QUOTE]Really no reason to offload in both situations provided you are prepared and traveling with her.

Show round trip tickets and hotel bookings for sure. Bookings in the girls names are helpful.

Have pictures of you and the girl together showing a relationship. The longer the better.

Might have to show they have some money on them or a way to pay for things.

In the event she is pulled over for an interview just answer the questions. They are making sure there is a relationship.

If they had prior travels in and out of PH the better.

I traveled to Singapore with a girl and we were interviewed in PH and by Singapore on arrival. Same questions. They are looking for trafficked girls.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2956815]This is travel-related for Filipinas and not directly mongering related, so please delete admin if not appropriate for this forum.

This has been touched on in some areas, but I'm seeking further clarification. I know that it is problematic for Filipinas to travel outside the country sometimes, and offloading is a real concern. Are there any guidelines for when it is appropriate for immigration to offload someone from a plane and how to best prevent it? My partner would love to visit Singapore, and I'the like to make that happen and take her there for a week next summer. If there is a round trip ticket and hotel that is paid for, would that prevent her from being offloaded? Same question for my wife, who would like to vacation in Thailand this summer for a couple of weeks with me and a friend of mine who owns land there. There would be a round trip ticket, but open itinerary for our time there, as it would depend on my friend and what she wants to show us. Will being married to me prevent her from being offloaded? It's a lot of moving parts and I don't want things to fall apart in the airport for either situation![/QUOTE]Did that twice, I know exactly how it works, I wrote about it here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=2945053&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2945053.

She will not get "offloaded", she's not going to make it that far.

This is for real, if your dates are flexible.

It will be displayed priced at 1800 p, that's the 1 p ticket plus taxes and fees.

P.S. That's a pic don't try to click on it, go to the website, cannot post the link because it points to my cebupacific account.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2956828]This is for real, if your dates are flexible.

It will be displayed priced at 1800 p, that's the 1 p ticket plus taxes and fees.

P.S. That's a pic don't try to click on it, go to the website, cannot post the link because it points to my cebupacific account.[/QUOTE]They run that promo about twice a year. It always works that there is a purchase period of about 10-14 days, prior to the actual flight period of several months (later, after the purchase period, possibly starting months after). Its a great time to purchase and fly.

I think I posted a similar item like this some months back / I am so smart. After recommending the low-cost flights, I was planning my own venture from the province to Manila. I contemplated flying out around the first of my travel month (within the sale travel dates for the discount), or the middle of the month. I pondered and pondered, wondering about my wandering. The sale period passed, and I wisely continued to consternate about the flight dates. Prices had jumped from p1, to p1500-ish. Then as the travel month got closer, even higher. It was THEN that I pounced. Had I purchased during the sale period, total RT price would have been p4000. However due to my own delay, it ended up being p8300. Worse, I was planning to fly in a long-time fav girl from her province during my time in Manila for a weekend visit, and that RT ticket cost p8300 (sale price would have been about p4000).

So smart. Sooooooo smart. Call me. . .

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2957054]They run that promo about twice a year. It always works that there is a purchase period of about 10-14 days, prior to the actual flight period of several months (later, after the purchase period, possibly starting months after). Its a great time to purchase and fly.

[/QUOTE]Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957068]Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.[/QUOTE]Buses and ferries are great if you are travelling with a backpack and carryon size suitcase. Travelling with a large suitcase becomes a pain in the ass even on a trike. Here is a good bus example. Several islands have a highway that goes in a circle around the entire island like Cebu, Bohol, Negros, Bohol, Mindoro, Samar, Panay, and more. Just stand on the side of the road going the direction you want. Wave the bus down as it is coming to you. You can be out in the middle of nowhere and it will pick you up. You do not have to be at a bus station or in the city. I know Cebu island so I will speak of it. Roughly from 6 am - 10 am the buses will pass by every 45 minutes. From 10 am - 6 pm every 20-30 minutes. 6 pm - 10 pm 60 minutes. 10 pm - 6 am every 3 hours or never (no reason to travel that time but know it is rare because it is a very rural route). There is a bus station near the southern tip but a few kilometers on the east side. You will need to change busses there to continue around the island. Beware! The Aholes will try to tell you you need to take a trike from there. Total BS. The bus driver is trying to make money for his trike buddy and a little for himself. Why is there a bus stop at the southern end but a little bit on the east side? Because there is a ferry (walking distance) that goes to Dumaguette every 2-3 hours and half a kilometer away is a ferry that goes to Siquijor. Daytime only of course and no large ocean waves so best to avoid rainy season (stormy seas). No need to pre-plan. Always seems to be last minute tickets available. Learn the buses and the ferries and you can create some easy travel experiences. But travel light.

Ten years ago I travelled this way because I wanted to explore and never knew how long I would be in a town. Cotabato less than 24 hours because Muslim town and my spider sense hit me as soon as the bus stopped there. Illigan 2 weeks because there were many street girls there which was surprising. I took ferry from Cebu to Manila. It took 24 hours. Everyone has a bed so you can sleep but it still sucked because so boring. Do not go long distances.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957068]Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.[/QUOTE]Why do you recommend buses but do not tell guys how to use them. Tell the guys how they work. Not sure you truly understand so I just did it for you from my memory of 10 years past. Read my post and you can learn something. I fail to understand why guys post information which has no information.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2956827]Did that twice, I know exactly how it works, I wrote about it here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=2945053&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2945053.

She will not get "offloaded", she's not going to make it that far.[/QUOTE]Is this the correct link?

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=2945053&viewfull=1#post2945053[/URL]

Regarding offloading. Is there a system where you could get an appointment with the BI in Intramuros a day or two prior to departure and get the girl similarly vetted with a departure visa, so the airport Immigration (and you) don't have to go thru this process, running the risk of ruining your travel plans? Wouldn't that make more sense?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2957096]Is this the correct link?

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=2945053&viewfull=1#post2945053[/URL]

Regarding offloading. Is there a system where you could get an appointment with the BI in Intramuros a day or two prior to departure and get the girl similarly vetted with a departure visa, so the airport Immigration (and you) don't have to go thru this process, running the risk of ruining your travel plans? Wouldn't that make more sense?[/QUOTE]You used the Philippine government and make sense in the same sentence. Are you high on something? LOL.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957068]In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leave many times per day so no preplanning is required.
Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.
G.[/QUOTE]Have to agree G. And they're a cheap option, leave really frequently, albeit not on time, and they're comfortable. Apart from the plastic seat covers.

I recently posted on how to get to Sabang and suggested the bus trip as the preferred method.

On my latest trip I was even asked if I was a senior for a cheaper fare.

Rather than say "Fuck off, I'm 50" I agreed that I looked beyond my years.

And it's a great way to mingle with the locals.

Looking forward to my next bus to Batangas Port in about three weeks.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957068]Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.[/QUOTE]I've done buses some, too. I did a few times in Mindanao for a couple of hours, and it was nice and pretty comfortable. They just stop at "stations" (that might even just be a parking lot) to pick up people, then back on the road again in five minutes. I've done on Luzon, too. Within cities in Bicol that was 2-4 hours, depending on if they stop for passengers often (one bus would randomly stop on the streets and wait for 15-20 minutes for passengers). Then southern Bicol to Manila (about 12 hours) was a lot to handle. But it was a large bus with larger seating for 1. 3 k, I think. Cheaper than flying, but not by much if you book flights a few months in advance.

The good thing is most people are friendly. And usually about 2/3 women. And if there are several telling my partner that I'm gwapo, including the young-ish ones, then I figure I'the have a decent chance if I was alone.

I'm the king of bus rides (and ferries), I rode them up and down, left and right for over one year, without having a clear final destination in mind, just the next point on the map. They are as fast as anything else on the PH roads. The buses are not as convenient as a taxi, but I would say they are more comfortable, and definitely much safer. The plastic covers on the seats suck, but I have a jacket with me while traveling, and I always put that under my but, to have some air circulate thru the fabric.

The biggest inconvenience is the lack of info about the routes and schedules, can do only limited advance planning. The only info you can take for granted is from the driver or the ticket guy, after you manage to find the correct bus terminal, and the right bus. For the popular routes frequented by foreigners there is some info, mostly coming from forums, not from the bus co. Website are non existent, convoluted, or outdated.

If you don't have nothing better to do, and have time on your hands, is a great place to meet girls, that otherwise would not talk to you if they were not forced by circumstances to sit next to you. I had many pleasant encounters, with successful follow ups, traveling this way.

On the other hand, I avoid the vans like the plague, they are crammed, hot, make lots of stops, and cannot stretch your legs.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2957096]Is this the correct link?

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1001-General-Info&p=2945053&viewfull=1#post2945053[/URL]

Regarding offloading. Is there a system where you could get an appointment with the BI in Intramuros a day or two prior to departure and get the girl similarly vetted with a departure visa, so the airport Immigration (and you) don't have to go thru this process, running the risk of ruining your travel plans? Wouldn't that make more sense?[/QUOTE]Yes the link is correct, but just in case, here is the original post:

"Did that twice, going on cruises, from Singapore and Malaysia, with 2 different girls, because I wanted to be on those cruises, and I didn't want to go alone. You have to be with the girl, show where you're going and what you're doing there, hotels, air tickets, and most important return tickets for the girl. Second time I did it we had no return tickets, because we were getting off in Thailand, and I didn't know how long we will stay there. I had to book flights on the spot from bkk to mnl, and email the officer the reservation. Also very important is to have pictures together taken at different times, and different locations, to prove that there is a long term relationship going on. Don't lie because they are trained in catching that. The interview is not with the pass control guys, but with a different ones with piercing eye sights, and maybe you, and the girl will be separated. Have plenty of spare time, this may take few hours. After that the girl is "veted" and she can exit alone next time. Good luck!

I don't think you can have a predeparture clearance, we are in PH, you can't even order a big mac without the onions, without having the manager involved, and getting a surprise in your bag after you think that it's all crystal clear.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2957132]I don't think you can have a predeparture clearance, we are in PH, you can't even order a big mac without the onions, without having the manager involved, and getting a surprise in your bag after you think that it's all crystal clear.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2957114]You used the Philippine government and make sense in the same sentence. Are you high on something? LOL.[/QUOTE]Hahaha what was I thinking? And I LIVE HERE!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2957085]Why do you recommend buses but do not tell guys how to use them. Tell the guys how they work. Not sure you truly understand so I just did it for you from my memory of 10 years past. Read my post and you can learn something. I fail to understand why guys post information which has no information.[/QUOTE]Sorry, my bad. I didn't realise catching a bus was a highly complex task that required step by step instructions.

G.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2957127]

The biggest inconvenience is the lack of info about the routes and schedules, can do only limited advance planning. [/QUOTE]I actually saw this as a positive: with hourly or better departures and no need to pre book anything, I would often wake up, decide to go somewhere else and just leave. It was super convenient.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957232]I actually saw this as a positive: with hourly or better departures and no need to pre book anything, I would often wake up, decide to go somewhere else and just leave. It was super convenient.

G.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but some remote places have only one trip per day, and if you missed it you're screwed, you have to find alternatives while carrying your backpack or go back to the hotel, taking the boat is another story: it may not go everyday. That's why if I'm in the dark and I'm staying in that place longer, I always find the transportation hub, and go there in advance to find info.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2957275]Yeah, but some remote places have only one trip per day, and if you missed it you're screwed, you have to find alternatives while carrying your backpack or go back to the hotel, taking the boat is another story: it may not go everyday. That's why if I'm in the dark and I'm staying in that place longer, I always find the transportation hub, and go there in advance to find info.[/QUOTE]That's a valid point as you get further and further away. I'd agree that published and online schedules etc are largely meaningless regardless of where you are. Some of the latest schedules that I found were already years old.

I was lucky. When I just turned up, the longest wait I had was less than 30 minutes. But, yes, that was on popular routes.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957231]Sorry, my bad. I didn't realise catching a bus was a highly complex task that required step by step instructions.

G.[/QUOTE]Apart from adding that most online bus schedules are very outdated, as others have noted, that's a great call G.

I get private messages here all the time asking for the contact details of girls I've discovered. That's not going to happen as I've done all the ground-work.

I just try to give my advice on how I discover them.

I'm willing to offer my experience and advice regarding bus travel, but I'm not going to do all the homework for everyone.

Albeit, my recent post on how to get to Sabang from Manila by bus and boat.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957283]That's a valid point as you get further and further away. I'd agree that published and online schedules etc are largely meaningless regardless of where you are. Some of the latest schedules that I found were already years old.

I was lucky. When I just turned up, the longest wait I had was less than 30 minutes. But, yes, that was on popular routes.

G.[/QUOTE]It can get worse, I had instances when the bus or the van broke down, and we had to return, or wait for spare parts to arrive. I remember one time, I don't recall where, the bus broke somewhere in the mountains, and we spent the night there until the next day when a motorbike brought the part, and we continued the journey. I tried to get out of the situation, but there was nothing avail, and I guess it was the only vehicle that the transport company had, some people slept outside, some lit up fires, luckily across the street in the middle of nowhere was a sari-sari shop, to buy some water and chips. It was some sort of surreal movie like experience, not pleasant at the time, but overall a good memory.

Another time we got dumped on the road by a van driver that had an emergency in the family (someone died), he had to return, and we hitchhiked, all nice memories, the only regret I have is that I didn't always take photos.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2943534]

Visa extensions are now available immediately upon arrival at the airport. No need to go to an external BI office. Clear normal immigration, go up to the 2nd floor and amongst the government offices is a BI desk. 29 day extension available in 15 minutes for 3030 peso. Keep the receipt with the new expiry date..[/QUOTE]For those extending their visa at the airport, KEEP YOUR RECEIPT. I didn't realise that when I did mine, they didn't stamp my passport with the extension, only the initial 30 days. Without the receipt, I didn't have any evidence that I hadn't overstayed.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957531]For those extending their visa at the airport, KEEP YOUR RECEIPT. I didn't realise that when I did mine, they didn't stamp my passport with the extension, only the initial 30 days. Without the receipt, I didn't have any evidence that I hadn't overstayed.

G.[/QUOTE]Thought this was common knowledge. They stopped putting stamps in extensions before covid. The government ran out of the old-fashioned extension stamps way back when (probably 2018; I recall the stamps appeared to be metallic). They started paperclipping the receipt into the last page of my PP. You just need to keep the most recent receipt. I find it odd that you must keep it and show it for this reason: Upon them swiping your PP at outbound Immigration at the airport, your extension history is right there on their computer screen. That you paid for your most recent extension is already obvious to them. The same applies for those who stayed more than 6 months and got their ECC before departure; you shouldn't need to show the receipt that you paid for it in the past 2 weeks, as it shows right there on their screen if you paid for it.

Hi Guys,

This is a bit of a long shot but I thought I'd ask.

I have two girls keen on earning some extra cash (no surprise).

They are prepared to create accounts and set up an Only Fans page. The only issue is Only Fans won't deal with Filipino banks or G-Cash etc. , so they can't get paid.

I own a lingerie and vibrator business here in Australia and shoot Only Fans content for a few local girls but have also used Filipina girls in the past for our social media, so I'll be shooting all their content on my frequent visits.

Does anyone know of any girls doing Only Fans content or similar?

I just have to do all the ground work for these two.

Cheers in advance _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2957888]Hi Guys,

This is a bit of a long shot but I thought I'd ask.

I have two girls keen on earning some extra cash (no surprise).

They are prepared to create accounts and set up an Only Fans page. The only issue is Only Fans won't deal with Filipino banks or G-Cash etc. , so they can't get paid.

I own a lingerie and vibrator business here in Australia and shoot Only Fans content for a few local girls but have also used Filipina girls in the past for our social media, so I'll be shooting all their content on my frequent visits.

Does anyone know of any girls doing Only Fans content or similar?



I just have to do all the ground work for these two.

Cheers in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I think everyone here is mostly in to the "hands on" business, not virtual encounters. Try Revolut.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2957888]Hi Guys,

This is a bit of a long shot but I thought I'd ask.

I have two girls keen on earning some extra cash (no surprise).

They are prepared to create accounts and set up an Only Fans page. The only issue is Only Fans won't deal with Filipino banks or G-Cash etc. , so they can't get paid.

I own a lingerie and vibrator business here in Australia and shoot Only Fans content for a few local girls but have also used Filipina girls in the past for our social media, so I'll be shooting all their content on my frequent visits.

Does anyone know of any girls doing Only Fans content or similar?

I just have to do all the ground work for these two.

Cheers in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Look at online banks. I know my Wise account has real bank branch and account numbers that I can transfer in and out of very easily.

Alternatively can you gift them / her a prepaid $10 Visa and she transact through that??

G.

PS. What about just contacting another Pina creator and ask her how she gets paid??

Pretty sure Only Fans is banned in the Philippines. I had a girl a few years back who wanted to do only fans but couldn't because of this ban and asked me to setup an account for her. I didn't get involved as it would have been too much of a headache.

If I were you I would be wary of getting involved as well. You may be putting yourself in legal trouble by taking photos and putting them online of filipinas. I'm not 100% certain and I am definitely not a lawyer, but pretty sure porn is illegal. You might be safer shipping them out of the Phillipines to do your photo shoots or videos or whatever it is that you're doing in a less conservative country.

In my opinion, its just not worth the potential headaches. Steer clear.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2957888]Hi Guys,

This is a bit of a long shot but I thought I'd ask.

I have two girls keen on earning some extra cash (no surprise).

They are prepared to create accounts and set up an Only Fans page. The only issue is Only Fans won't deal with Filipino banks or G-Cash etc. , so they can't get paid.

I own a lingerie and vibrator business here in Australia and shoot Only Fans content for a few local girls but have also used Filipina girls in the past for our social media, so I'll be shooting all their content on my frequent visits.

Does anyone know of any girls doing Only Fans content or similar?

I just have to do all the ground work for these two.

Cheers in advance _ Phil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2957890]I think everyone here is mostly in to the "hands on" business, not virtual encounters. Try Revolut.[/QUOTE]Thanks Old and Ugly. I know and I'm the same. The content wouldn't be directed to the guys here. These two have just seen the Only Fans accounts of the Australian models I shoot here and realize there's cash to be made flashing their pink bits _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957901]Look at online banks. I know my Wise account has real bank branch and account numbers that I can transfer in and out of very easily. Alternatively can you gift them / her a prepaid $10 Visa and she transact through that??
G.
PS. What about just contacting another Pina creator and ask her how she gets paid??[/QUOTE]Thanks G, I'm on the hunt for a Pina creator to ask the question. I think many use off-shore agencies that take a big cut. I just don't want to get too involved with the money side at my end due to tax implications. I'll gift them the toys and knickers and reward them in cash for their pics for me to use for my business, however, I'd help them set up accounts with a platform and then the money side of things is up to them. Yes, mad you may think. A Filipina managing money _ Phil.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2957920]Pretty sure Only Fans is banned in the Philippines. I had a girl a few years back who wanted to do only fans but couldn't because of this ban and asked me to setup an account for her. I didn't get involved as it would have been too much of a headache.

If I were you I would be wary of getting involved as well. You may be putting yourself in legal trouble by taking photos and putting them online of filipinas. [/QUOTE]Thanks Kazeu.

And I know where you're coming from.

I don't mind helping them set something up, but that's basically where the involvement stops, apart from supplying them content for them to post online.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2957610]....They started paperclipping the receipt into the last page of my PP. You just need to keep the most recent receipt. I find it odd that you must keep it and show it for this reason: Upon them swiping your PP at outbound Immigration at the airport, your extension history is right there on their computer screen.......[/QUOTE]This is not unusual here. I renewed my car registration recently and they wanted a paper copy of my prior OR from last renewal. They even admitted that they could look it up, but their regulations said paper copy of it and that is what they required.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2957610]The same applies for those who stayed more than 6 months and got their ECC before departure; you shouldn't need to show the receipt that you paid for it in the past 2 weeks, as it shows right there on their screen if you paid for it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2958607]This is not unusual here. I renewed my car registration recently and they wanted a paper copy of my prior OR from last renewal. They even admitted that they could look it up, but their regulations said paper copy of it and that is what they required.[/QUOTE]The rules is: THE RULES!

Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone else is frequently getting DM's from guys who want an easy fix and request contact details of your contacts?

I'm always happy to help out and offer advice, but I'm not going to hand over the contact details of girls I've spent a lot of time to get to know.

My latest reply was this:

"Thanks so much for your message.

Unfortunately, I can't give any details of my contacts.

Basically as it would place them in danger as I receive regular messages asking for such information and I really don't know who I'm replying to in these messages. It could be anyone.

If you don't want to do the bar scene or your own ground work, tip the hotel security and ask them to find you a girl.

They will sort out all the reception issues you were concerned about at the hotel.

Hope you have great time!

Phil".

The adventure of The Phils is learning from experience. And that happens in any country. But I'm not prepared to do all the ground work for the newcomers looking for an easy way out.

The contacts I have, I consider friends. None are typical bar girls or hookers.

I'd advise anyone new to the forum to learn from the advice offered and create your own personal adventure. It will be well worth it.

_Phil.

Haha, yes I get these all the time. Usually the wording is slightly off as if english is not their first language. I never give out contact details unless I've met the person in real life. And if I know the person in real life, they probably have my contact info in their phone so would contact me there instead of via DM here. Its a bit annoying. Just ignore them.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2958960]Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone else is frequently getting DM's from guys who want an easy fix and request contact details of your contacts?

I'm always happy to help out and offer advice, but I'm not going to hand over the contact details of girls I've spent a lot of time to get to know.

My latest reply was this:

"Thanks so much for your message.

Unfortunately, I can't give any details of my contacts.

Basically as it would place them in danger as I receive regular messages asking for such information and I really don't know who I'm replying to in these messages. It could be anyone.

If you don't want to do the bar scene or your own ground work, tip the hotel security and ask them to find you a girl.

They will sort out all the reception issues you were concerned about at the hotel.

Hope you have great time!

Phil".

The adventure of The Phils is learning from experience. And that happens in any country. But I'm not prepared to do all the ground work for the newcomers looking for an easy way out.

The contacts I have, I consider friends. None are typical bar girls or hookers.

I'd advise anyone new to the forum to learn from the advice offered and create your own personal adventure. It will be well worth it.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2958960]Hi Guys,

Just wondering if anyone else is frequently getting DM's from guys who want an easy fix and request contact details of your contacts?

[/QUOTE]Constantly. What many fail to recognise is that:

1/. Because I like how a girl looks or performed, doesn't mean that another guy will too.

2/. Because a girl fucks me doesn't mean that she wants to be seen fucking 100 other foreigners.

You'd be surprised the number of abusive messages I have received after a recommendation because she didn't do XXX exactly as a punter wanted or a girl that I found spectacular in the sack simply didn't press the right buttons for another guy.

Let's not forget the guys who do absolutely zero research before asking the simplest questions: are AC hotels girl friendly?; where can I find the hottest stunners in manila?

I'm more than happy to help guys who put in some effort first and then ask specific questions but yes I too generally don't give out individual contact details, even to good friends, for the reasons above. Often info on how to find similar girls is of more use to them anyway. Guys can then go find what they prefer, not what I have enjoyed.

Enjoy. G.

To be fair, this is a forum.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2958963]Haha, yes I get these all the time. Usually the wording is slightly off as if english is not their first language. I never give out contact details unless I've met the person in real life. And if I know the person in real life, they probably have my contact info in their phone so would contact me there instead of via DM here. Its a bit annoying. Just ignore them.[/QUOTE]Notice.

I do not give out contacts. I do not give out contacts.

Do not DM me for contacts.

I have been burned before.

Develop your own Friends and Family program. Very easy to do if you are a kind and respectful person.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2959081] I'm more than happy to help guys who put in some effort first and then ask specific questions but yes I too generally don't give out individual contact details, even to good friends, for the reasons above. Often info on how to find similar girls is of more use to them anyway. Guys can then go find what they prefer, not what I have enjoyed.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Exactly G,

There's a really good group of guys here willing to offer some great advice and experiences.

Those of us who travel frequently, or reside in the Phils, and have done so over many years, obviously have a contact list or some regular girls.

I think it was just worth pointing out to any newcomers to the forum that although we're willing to offer some advice, you probably won't get any contact details out of many of us via DM's.

Forget dating websites, or our contacts, and get your feet on the ground here in The Phils and discover how it all works.

Sure, you'll encounter some 'hurdles' along the way, but it will be worth it in the long run.

And if you're not into the bar scene, there are many other options. Just take the time to look through previous posts of the member's travels.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2959816]

I think it was just worth pointing out to any newcomers to the forum that although we're willing to offer some advice, you probably won't get any contact details out of many of us via DM's.

Forget dating websites, or our contacts, and get your feet on the ground here in The Phils and discover how it all works.

[/QUOTE]Think of it from the girls' perspective. Who would you be more drawn to: the polite guy, you met at the mall or food court, who asked you out for coffee or; the guy who WhatsApps you asking a nightly rate because his buddy said you gave great head??

G.

I moved to the Philippines in mid 2019 and for the first 4 years lived in Cebu City. My first visit to Cebu City was in 2016, on a recce trip. I was then living in Bangkok but was getting restless so came to the Philippines to check it out with a view to a move.

I visited Angeles City, Davao City in Mindanao, and Cebu City and of course Manila, and considered all 4 places but in the end I chose Cebu City. Almost all of the pussy I had whilst living there was via the Internet dating sites, pinaylove and dateinasia. I had more than enough pussy to keep me busy, a mix of regulars and one-off meets.

My first trip to the Philippines was actually in the late 80's, to Manila, and I had the opportunity to sample some of the local girls via the bars. But my first encounter with a Pinay was actually in Sydney, Australia, a year or two earlier whilst on a 2 week holiday/vacation. I booked an outcall Asian 'massage' from the Yellow Pages phone book in my hotel room and she came to my hotel room. She was really beautiful, early 20's with a ravishing and voluptuous body, with beautiful skin, and gave a full girlfriend experience, with full sex and was quite ok with bareback and a CIP finish. I don't remember her name and don't have any pics of her, but do remember that she was very sweet and it was a really fantastic experience. It was the highlight of my trip to Australia!

Anyway, I lived in Cebu City from July 2019 up till October last year, but was getting restless. I was thinking about a move to either Vietnam or Cambodia but decided in the end to move up to Quezon City, which is part of Metro Manila.

As an experience I enjoyed my time living in Quezon City, especially with all the girls I was able to meet, but I would not want to live there again or in any other part of Metro Manila, too many people and waaaaay too much traffic. I moved out of the Philippines over the weekend and am currently in Nonthaburi in Metro Bangkok, and plan to stay here for a year or two. Getting around in Bangkok is a lot easier than it is in Manila because of the huge subway and skytrain network which covers a very wide area, unlike the skytrain in Manila which only covers a small area. They are currently building a subway system in Manila but it won't be operational for at least 5 years.

Personally, I think Cebu City is a much better place to live on a long-term basis in the Philippines than Manila, and if I do go back to live there I would definitely choose Cebu City over Manila which is choking itself to death with the numbers of cars on the roads and the numbers of people living there. Apart from the better quality of girls I was able to meet in Cebu City and the lower prices than in Manila, I think Cebu City has a real heart and a soul, and is more laid-back than Manila and I found the locals more friendly and more easy going than in Manila. The average price I paid for a girl in Cebu City was P1k to P1.5 k, v 3k to 4k in Metro Manila. All S/T.

Below, a few pics from last Friday with a regular in Pasig City. It was my last night in the Philippines and she might possibly be my last Pinay!

Chocha monger clear your messages can't reply to your PM.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2960141] Personally, I think Cebu City is a much better place to live on a long-term basis in the Philippines than Manila, and if I do go back to live there I would definitely choose Cebu City over Manila which is choking itself to death with the numbers of cars on the roads and the numbers of people living there. [/QUOTE]Hi Md,

I'd agree that Manila would be too hectic for me to base myself permanently.

Whilst I still have to reside at home for business reasons and an elderly father who requires care, there might be a very good chance in the future of me settling in The Phils.

I'm just not sure if Cebu City would do it for me either.

But that's the beauty of taking your time and visiting various places to see what might work long term.

Probably the nicest place I've visited is Bantayan Island off the north coast of Cebu.

But logistically at the moment it would be a real hassle if I suddenly had to fly back home if things turned to shit.

From there, it's a long haul just to get to the closest major airport.

Then again, I have a very close friend in Sabang who is amazing but all her family is there.

Time will tell and thanks so much for your observations.

_Phil.

I have 2 options landing at MNL. One is around 10 am and the other around midnight. Which is the less crazy time to get my bags and go through Immigration?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2962185]I have 2 options landing at MNL. One is around 10 am and the other around midnight. Which is the less crazy time to get my bags and go through Immigration?[/QUOTE]That all depends on how many and what sized planes are also landing at the same time. I've seen Arrivals empty and packed at all times of the day and night.

10 am will have more traffic on the road to the hotel but by the time you do your clearance, get bags, taxis etc you will line up with the normal 2 pm check in time, get some rest and be able to head out for the night. A midnight arrival would see me basically loose the next day to sleep, jetlag etc and cost me another day's hotel stay for little benefit.

If it were my choice, I'd arrive at 10 am.

I don't know if it applies to you, but remember that you can now do the 29 day extension at the airport on the day of arrival. It's 3050 peso and about 10 minutes. That's much easier than processing it later.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2962185]I have 2 options landing at MNL. One is around 10 am and the other around midnight. Which is the less crazy time to get my bags and go through Immigration?[/QUOTE]Hi Banana,

My flights always arrive around 5 pm so not in your time frame, but I've never had a problem with customs delays. Always straight through and never a bag checked.

For me the issue is where the plane is always parked. At the arse / ass-end of the airport with a short bus trip to the terminal and then a lengthy walk to the baggage belt.

My flights back home are always around midnight, so I get the full day of action before I depart.

As G mentioned, factor in the traffic once you arrive. A swift process through the airport can all turn to shit any time of the day or night with Manila's hectic traffic.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2962185]I have 2 options landing at MNL. One is around 10 am and the other around midnight. Which is the less crazy time to get my bags and go through Immigration?[/QUOTE]Kind of depends on where you heading to after arriving.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2961631]
Probably the nicest place I've visited is Bantayan Island off the north coast of Cebu.
[/QUOTE]I've also been to Bantayan Island, and thought it was definitely worth the visit. I got a bus up from Cebu City, it was about a 3 hour ride and I don't think the driver went more than about 35 mph though the average speed was a lot lower! It's not a very good road, and when we arrived at the ferry terminal at Hagnaya Port we found out that all ferries that day had been cancelled because of the weather. It wasn't that bad, but the forecast was for it to get worse so for safety reasons all ferry services were cancelled. They couldn't tell us when the ferry service would resume, and some bus passengers took the next bus back to Cebu City. I found a hotel near to the port and stayed the night, not knowing if the ferry service to Bantayan Island would resume the next day, but thankfully it did.

In 2020 they re-opened the airport on Bantayan Island which had fallen into disrepair and was closed for a number of years, and direct flights are now available from Mactan airport.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2962610]I've also been to Bantayan Island, and thought it was definitely worth the visit. I got a bus up from Cebu City, it was about a 3 hour ride and I don't think the driver went more than about 35 mph though the average speed was a lot lower! It's not a very good road, and when we arrived at the ferry terminal at Hagnaya Port we found out that all ferries that day had been cancelled because of the weather. It wasn't that bad, but the forecast was for it to get worse so for safety reasons all ferry services were cancelled. They couldn't tell us when the ferry service would resume, and some bus passengers took the next bus back to Cebu City. I found a hotel near to the port and stayed the night, not knowing if the ferry service to Bantayan Island would resume the next day, but thankfully it did.

In 2020 they re-opened the airport on Bantayan Island which had fallen into disrepair and was closed for a number of years, and direct flights are now available from Mactan airport.[/QUOTE]I lived there for a long time, and I still in touch with some locals, but I'm 99% sure there are no flights, unless it happened to change overnight.

Anyway, if you go there, BYO, and build in lots of flexibility into your travel plans, you may be stuck on the island for days in the row, the orders to cancel all water traffic comes from Cebu even if the local weather is fine, and it's enforced by the Coast Guard. Also if you're prone to health issues emergencies, just plan for the funeral arrangements, because it will take 5 hours under the best circumstances to reach the closest ER.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2962926]
Anyway, if you go there, BYO, and build in lots of flexibility into your travel plans, you may be stuck on the island for days in the row, the orders to cancel all water traffic comes from Cebu even if the local weather is fine, and it's enforced by the Coast Guard.[/QUOTE]I think that applies to most of the islands to the north of Cebu. I've been trapped on Malapascua for days for the reason you mention. Trust me, when the dive boats are stopped, there is NOTHING to do until leaving the island is an option.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2962926]I lived there for a long time, and I still in touch with some locals, but I'm 99% sure there are no flights, unless it happened to change overnight.
[/QUOTE]I stand corrected!

There was a big news story back in late 2020 announcing that the airport had re-opened;.

[URL]https://sugbo.ph/2020/bantayan-island-airport[/URL]

"Good news for Bantayan Island and the travelers! The Cebu Provincial Government, spearheaded by Cebu Governor Gwen Garcia, and Mactan Cebu International Airport (MCIA) have formally re-opened the newly-renovated Bantayan Island Airport.

As of December 2020, commercial flights to the public and local tourists have yet to be announced. AirJuan is expected to resume Mactan Bantayan flights by 1st Quarter of 2021."

But it looks like they never did! I just had a quick look online and I can't find any flight schedules from AirJuan (I think that their website is dead) or from other other airlines.

[QUOTE=Mdemde;2963655]I stand corrected!

There was a big news story back in late 2020 announcing that the airport had re-opened;.

[URL]https://sugbo.ph/2020/bantayan-island-airport[/URL]

"Good news for Bantayan Island and the travelers! The Cebu Provincial Government, spearheaded by Cebu Governor Gwen Garcia, and Mactan Cebu International Airport (MCIA) have formally re-opened the newly-renovated Bantayan Island Airport.

As of December 2020, commercial flights to the public and local tourists have yet to be announced. AirJuan is expected to resume Mactan Bantayan flights by 1st Quarter of 2021."

But it looks like they never did! I just had a quick look online and I can't find any flight schedules from AirJuan (I think that their website is dead) or from other other airlines.[/QUOTE]I asure you 1000% that's not true, I would have been the first to fly, regardless of the price, the minimum 5 hours trip to reach civilization is a horror. The occasional flights in and out are only in small airplanes for skydiving. While I was living there few expats, tried to organize something with our own money to contract a plane or a chopper not locally, but maybe from a bigger place like Cebu, Iloilo, or Bacolod, that will come in case of an emergency, to take you to a hospital, so that you don't die waiting for the boat, but it didn't worked out, mostly because of the bureaucracy.

Speaking of airports. See pics. From PAL, the winter seat sale. While the pic boasts a price as low as p209 (first pic), I found all domestic fares in the p1100-1200 range (second pic). Look for yourself. These are 1-way fares. Add in the additional taxes and fees (typically p2 k+), and you are at p3-4 k per 1-way ticket, or p6-8 k round-trip. The sale is ongoing.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2962928]I think that applies to most of the islands to the north of Cebu. I've been trapped on Malapascua for days for the reason you mention. Trust me, when the dive boats are stopped, there is NOTHING to do until leaving the island is an option.[/QUOTE]Well you could enjoy the terrible Italian food that seems to all come from the same kitchen no matter the name on the door! Or at least that was the only options when I went there in 2017. Thresher Sharks were cool though.

And the boat isn't the worst part. The drive back to the airport from the ferry port was no joy either.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2963854]Well you could enjoy the terrible Italian food that seems to all come from the same kitchen no matter the name on the door! Or at least that was the only options when I went there in 2017. Thresher Sharks were cool though.

And the boat isn't the worst part. The drive back to the airport from the ferry port was no joy either.[/QUOTE]Actually I enjoyed the food on Malapasqua, the night market full of seafood dishes is a rare thing in the PH. For lunch time I had the guy with the only "restaurant" on the north beach grill a huge fresh caught baby tuna for 600 p, me and my GF were eating, also we fed everyday 2 cute girls that were selling trinkets allover the island, and they figured out after few days that if they are around there at lunch, they will get fed (too young to be mongering candidates) and we had leftovers for a few dogs. Next door there was a fancy resort with people sipping bright colored chemicals from tall glasses, and eating fries, and burgers, looking down on us.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963904]Actually I enjoyed the food on Malapasqua, the night market full of seafood dishes is a rare thing in the PH.[/QUOTE]On the theme of night markets, I'll throw in my 2 cents and say that the ones in Davao are also great. About 250 per meal for BBQ anything.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2963908]On the theme of night markets, I'll throw in my 2 cents and say that the ones in Davao are also great. About 250 per meal for BBQ anything.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Can't wait to get there next month. I rented an apt in Matina Aplaya, do you know the place? I don't know if was a good choice, but I paid the for first month already.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2963913]Can't wait to get there next month. I rented an apt in Matina Aplaya, do you know the place? I don't know if was a good choice, but I paid the for first month already.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't know it. For short stays, I can recommend Poblacion as you can walk everywhere, even the port to go to Samal. I used hotels but I did see many condos between People's Park and Gaisano.

I had one disaster with AirBnB in Avida but YMMV.

Yours looks good for longer stays so it will be interesting to read how convenient you find it.

Good luck. G.

Having dated (and shagged) a few Filipinas, I have compiled my list of characteristics that appear common to this rare and special species. In my experience, Pinay girls:

- Will usually have a strange name: e. G. A made-up name, two names merged together, a normal name but with the same first letter or same middle name as all her siblings.

- Will come to your home or hotel with an expectation of getting fucked, or failing that, will blow you as a consolation prize, and definitely will fuck you the second time.

- Will have no qualms about CIM and will swallow, no complaints (opposite from Thai girls).

- Will have a clean, fresh, shaved pussy.

- Will cum easily and from licking, fingering or fucking.

- Won't let on she came even if you ask her to announce it.

- Won't allow anal, usually.

- Will usually tell you that her first sexual experience was at a fairly late age, and usually with her first BF or husband.

- Often got pregnant from her first sex.

- Will tell you she never wanks and is disinterested in trying.

- May be disinterested in condom use, possibly even opposed (thanks, Catholic Church!

- Has never had an STI panel done and sees no need despite her previous, cheating boyfriend.

- Unless she's wealthy, will inevitably and regularly have a financial issue that (she thinks) requires your immediate involvement: school fees, driver's licence renewal, sick kids, broken phone, make-up ran out, taxi fare, etc.

- Despite being quite wild in bed, may be quite reluctant when it comes to sexting or receiving dick pics.

- More likely than others to rim you, and without warning!

- Wants to introduce you to her family soon!

- Will tell you she loves you after just a few dates.

- When she returns from the bathroom we tell you all the gory details of what she just did in there.

- Will often go online asking questions like "how to please a man" and then arrives in bed prepared to get you off!

Disagree? Comments? I want to hear from you. Please share your stories and photos here!

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]... same middle name as all her siblings.

...[/QUOTE]That's their mother's middle name.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]Having dated (and shagged) a few Filipinas, I have compiled my list of characteristics that appear common to this rare and special species. In my experience, Pinay girls:

- Will usually have a strange name: e. G. A made-up name, two names merged together, a normal name but with the same first letter or same middle name as all her siblings.

[/QUOTE]The only smart thing I know of in the Philippines. First name is whatever they like. Middle name is the mother's last name. Last name is the father's last name. Simply brilliant to track one's family tree compared to the USA's way of any name, any name, father's last name.

If born without knowing who the father is then the last name is the mother's and there is no middle name.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]- Will usually have a strange name: e. G. A made-up name, two names merged together, a normal name but with the same first letter or same middle name as all her siblings.[/QUOTE]The made-up name is her given name, such as Analynn or Maria. It might sound odd to outsiders. Besides Maria and Jenny, I've run into girls with boys names like Ross, Russ, and Mitch. Also Cherry, Candy, Langa (means to be loving), Love, Lovely, Girlie, and other words associated with sugar or candy. She will also have one or more nicknames, one given by her family, and others given by the girl herself. She will automatically mash-up her and her (current) boyfie's name. If Ana is dating Joseph, she might call herself AnJo, or SephAn, or such, and he might name one of her FB accounts as such. It changes with the name of the current boyfie. Both the boyfie and GF happily take this nickname while they are together.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2964362]That's their mother's middle name.[/QUOTE]I believe it's the mother's maiden name. All of a Filipino's siblings usually have the same middle name. If the mother's maiden name was Ramirez before she got married to Mr. Alvarez, the kids willl be as such: James Ramirez Alvarez, Jennifer Ramirez Alvarez, Maria Ramirez Alvarez, Samuel Ramirez Alvarez, etc. This follows a similar spanish tradition seen in latin countries.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]- Won't let on she came even if you ask her to announce it.[/QUOTE]Pinay are very shy, at least at first. That follows to her deepest personality. She might have had a dozen partners who made her cum, and never told any of them, even when asked to announce it. One girl I was with had a specific bold tell that she couldn't hide. Red spots started to appear on her chest and neck as she got turned on, and about 1 minute prior to orgasm her entire face turned red, and her forhead and temples area turned a violet or purple color. Then a vein popped out right down the middle of her forehead about 15 seconds before the big O, spasmed wildly, and dissipated as the O dissipated. When I inquired, she said something like: "Oh I hate it! So much obvious and I don't want anyone to know"!

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]- Will usually tell you that her first sexual experience was at a fairly late age, and usually with her first BF or husband.[/QUOTE]I find it the opposite: They tell me they were 12, or 14 or 15.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]- Has never had an STI panel done and sees no need despite her previous, cheating boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Its not done in poor countries. Her doctor will tell you that its better if she reports any STI symptoms to simply dose her with an antibiotic and call it an STI, telling her it might be from pelvic bruising from rough sex (or such), or a tampon that was dirty. Saves face for both the girl, her cheating partner, her cheating self, and her doctor.

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]- Unless she's wealthy, will inevitably and regularly have a financial issue that (she thinks) requires your immediate involvement: school fees, driver's licence renewal, sick kids, broken phone, make-up ran out, taxi fare, etc.[/QUOTE]This is both the bane and the joy of dating pinay. These constant emergencies require YOUR small dollar contribution, meaning you will have multiple girls in constant need, and offering the poon at fairly discounted prices compared with poon prison. Even hotties have regularly recurring emergencies (not to mention families that simply take her recently acquired paycheck).

[QUOTE=TKOman;2964333]- Despite being quite wild in bed, may be quite reluctant when it comes to sexting or receiving dick pics.[/QUOTE]For a variety of reasons. Shyness being one of them. It being illegal in Phils might be another. Having a Filipina's naked pic (even in various stages of undress) on your device, or even her own device, is illegal. Additionally most pinay are simply not interested in pics of anyone's Johnson. However they have an affinity to taking selfies, both clothed and naked (so I've heard).

Forgot to add. They celebrate annual anniversaries, months-aversary, and weeks-aversary. "Westy me and my boyfriend is having a 13-weeks-aversary this week". Thirteen weeks together? "Yes". I see. Does your boyfie know about this? "Yes of course". Just checking.

Interesting video on pinay phone use in relationships, from YT vlogger Irish, AKA "Smart Girl Philippines". Topic: The thing that will break up your relationship with your filipina.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR9U8NEoUR4[/URL]

Warning, Irish is a bit more crass than Filipina Pea.

2:30 "And her little f*cking phone is the thing that will destroy your relationship". The phone will not only be her lifeline to everything else, it will be used by her family and others to wring money out you, and for her to flirt with other fellas (probably Goferring).

5:00 She will use her phone to make you a prisoner to your phone. She will constantly msg you asking for you to take and send selfies (proving to her that you are where you say you are) and to do other tasks that force your current attention to her, while she is elsewhere. She will not reply to your messages instantly, but she will get upset if you do the same when she sends you a message, even if you're at work.

6:10 She will want to carry on long conversations with you when you are apart (and you are busy), and she will want to converse via phone chat / msg.

7:05 Her phone is not your friend.

7:15 Establish ground rules for phone use while together: 1) No phone use in the bedroom. 2) No phones while eating. 3) No conversations over chat (conversations only in person, or on vid chat). 4) No unsent messages.

7:35 Establish that you want a relationship with her, not her phone.

8:45 She doesn't get to check your phone. You don't get to check her phone.

While everything above makes sense from a western perspective, the advice given by this pinay goes directly to the heart of filipino culture. Pinoy seem to have a cell phone glued (or sewn into) their hand. They sleep with it, I've effed girls here who held it in her hand at the time. They live on FB and games. Most of my mates (and myself) have one or other pinay in his life here who might never be broken from the habits the author claims. No phone while eating? No phone in bed? If you break a pinay from these habits, is she still pinay?

Fine members of the board: any recommendations on fun places to be for New Year's Eve in the Phils (or SEA in general). Doesn't necessarily have to be hobby related, although that's a plus for sure. I like large street festivals, open air parties, and the like (like Rio Brazil). Also need some plausible deniability why I'm there, so AC is kinda ruled out. I've been once to this fair land of plenty (Manila, Cebu City, AC) and also looking to hit a nice beach for a few days before or after (may Boracay or Palawan), but I also see recent positive posts on Sabang / PG. Thanks for any tips in advance, and always up for a meetup with beers on me.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2965739]Interesting video on pinay phone use in relationships, from YT vlogger Irish, AKA "Smart Girl Philippines". Topic: The thing that will break up your relationship with your filipina.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR9U8NEoUR4[/URL]

Warning, Irish is a bit more crass than Filipina Pea.

2:30 "And her little f*cking phone is the thing that will destroy your relationship". The phone will not only be her lifeline to everything else, it will be used by her family and others to wring money out you, and for her to flirt with other fellas (probably Goferring).

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While everything above makes sense from a western perspective, the advice given by this pinay goes directly to the heart of filipino culture. Pinoy seem to have a cell phone glued (or sewn into) their hand. They sleep with it, I've effed girls here who held it in her hand at the time. They live on FB and games. Most of my mates (and myself) have one or other pinay in his life here who might never be broken from the habits the author claims. No phone while eating? No phone in bed? If you break a pinay from these habits, is she still pinay?[/QUOTE]There is point missed out, even a Pinoy husband would allow his wife for going out if money comes by. This kind of practice I have seen in Manila and Cebu, is it caused for poverty only? I doubt it.

Happy hunting.

Gents of the board: any recommendations for where to spend New Year's Eve in the Philippines (or SEA in general)? Looking for somewhere with a lively open-air atmosphere, like a street or beach party (Rio was great). I plan to hit one of the beach resorts before / after, so any suggestions there are welcome too. I'm guessing there'd be many options in Manila for NYE, and I'm reading good things about Sabang Beach / Puerto Galera for beach time (with good hobby options as well). Wondering whether creek out to Boracay or Palawan is worth the effort. I have about 10 days available for this trip. Many thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2965739]

2:30 "And her little f*cking phone is the thing that will destroy your relationship". The phone will not only be her lifeline to everything else, it will be used by her family and others to wring money out you, and for her to flirt with other fellas (probably Goferring).

[/QUOTE]Hey, that's slanderous. I have full respect for guys locked in mom's basement, sending girls money every week, paying her rent and replacing the phones that die on a regular basis, without even meeting her. I think building her a house before he even arrives is an excellent way of ensuring her devotion, loyalty and chastity.

Pinas would never fukk around behind his back while he and 10 other simps think that she is at home watching telenovelas.

There are no opportunities for an enterprising guy to become a side dick for pennies on the dollar while Daddies are funding her lifestyle. Personally, I've never been interrupted midcoitus and been told to be quiet while she takes a call. I've never gone on holiday and thought it amusing when languages changes throughout the day as various regions wake up and come online. Nope, never happened.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=CarloRogue;2966078]Gents of the board: any recommendations for where to spend New Year's Eve in the Philippines (or SEA in general)? Looking for somewhere with a lively open-air atmosphere, like a street or beach party (Rio was great). I plan to hit one of the beach resorts before / after, so any suggestions there are welcome too. I'm guessing there'd be many options in Manila for NYE, and I'm reading good things about Sabang Beach / Puerto Galera for beach time (with good hobby options as well). Wondering whether creek out to Boracay or Palawan is worth the effort. I have about 10 days available for this trip. Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Beaches, parties and girls has Thailand written all over it.

I'm a PI fanboi but this is one area where it can't compete. Go to Thailand.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2966116]Hey, that's slanderous. [/QUOTE]Scandalous maybe. Haha can't be slander if its true!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2966116]Pinas would never fukk around behind his back while he and 10 other simps think that she is at home watching telenovelas. SNIP

Personally, I've never been interrupted midcoitus and been told to be quiet while she takes a call.[/QUOTE]Never! Including the girl in the pic.

[QUOTE=CarloRogue;2966078]Gents of the board: any recommendations for where to spend New Year's Eve in the Philippines. I'm guessing there'd be many options in Manila for NYE, and I'm reading good things about Sabang Beach / Puerto Galera for beach time (with good hobby options as well). Wondering whether creek out to Boracay or Palawan is worth the effort. I have about 10 days available for this trip. Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hi Carlo,

As G mentioned, I'd probably stick to Thailand.

Boracay might be great but it can be hit and miss. Sabang will probably see you alone as all the Koreans will have swept up the talent in advance.

Having said that, NYE in any place is usually a time for celebration and anything might happen.

Oh, and Sabang doesn't really have a beach these days.

_ Phil.

Does anybody else have this issue lately? In the past 2 weeks while on the ISG website, my antivirus constantly pops up and blocks something related to "malvertising".

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2967910]Does anybody else have this issue lately? In the past 2 weeks while on the ISG website, my antivirus constantly pops up and blocks something related to "malvertising".[/QUOTE]I think the malvare was taking care of, because it disappeared.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2967910]Does anybody else have this issue lately? In the past 2 weeks while on the ISG website, my antivirus constantly pops up and blocks something related to "malvertising".[/QUOTE]I've been getting that with Norton. But it doesn't block the site, just recommends doing a scan. Close the notification and everything seems normal.

Didn't happen today.

As the clock has just ticked over to midnight in Australia, I'd like to wish you all a great Christmas.

(Sorry, we don't have the politically correct terminology here regarding 'Happy Holidays' . We're not a religious country really. Christmas is all about friends, family and having a good time).

Anyway, a big thanks to all those who have offered others valuable advice over the past year. It really is appreciated.

We all have different desires, intentions and objectives. But we're all on the same page.

On a lighter note, I'd like to congratulate you all for being compassionate and helping out those less fortunate than yourselves over the past year.

All those bar fines, lady drinks, tips and other cash we've all dealt out, has helped to pay for a family feast, helped some poor kid that's not your responsibility, pay their electricity bill, get their nails manicured, keep Korean business owners turning a profit and the list goes on.

Without your financial help and support, these girls would be a lot worse off.

You're all champions for assisting a very worthy charity. I hope, like me, you enjoyed the ride _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2970487]As the clock has just ticked over to midnight in Australia, I'd like to wish you all a great Christmas.

(Sorry, we don't have the politically correct terminology here regarding 'Happy Holidays' . We're not a religious country really. Christmas is all about friends, family and having a good time).

Anyway, a big thanks to all those who have offered others valuable advice over the past year. It really is appreciated.

We all have different desires, intentions and objectives. But we're all on the same page.

On a lighter note, I'd like to congratulate you all for being compassionate and helping out those less fortunate than yourselves over the past year.

All those bar fines, lady drinks, tips and other cash we've all dealt out, has helped to pay for a family feast, helped some poor kid that's not your responsibility, pay their electricity bill, get their nails manicured, keep Korean business owners turning a profit and the list goes on.

Without your financial help and support, these girls would be a lot worse off.

You're all champions for assisting a very worthy charity. I hope, like me, you enjoyed the ride _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Merry Christmas!

I'm more than happy to do my part.

All.

Merry Christmas.

I had to take a TB test recently and my blood test came positive. Had to follow up with chest Xray and other tests. Looks like I may be having LTBI. No symptoms but latent. Getting some more tests done. As I was discussing with my doc, he mentioned that Phils has the high incident rates of TB in the world. Just all of you mongers out there, please take care and get your tests done!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-70471-x

[QUOTE=KbNagar;2970575]All.

Merry Christmas.

I had to take a TB test recently and my blood test came positive. Had to follow up with chest Xray and other tests. Looks like I may be having LTBI. No symptoms but latent. Getting some more tests done. As I was discussing with my doc, he mentioned that Phils has the high incident rates of TB in the world. Just all of you mongers out there, please take care and get your tests done!

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-70471-x[/QUOTE]After I took a few breaths of military grade japanese insect fumigator yesterday, I doubt that I'm in any immediate danger of contacting any lung related illnesses. (see my davao post).

Can anyone help me verify my new WeChat account?

I can send the QR code to scan.

Thanks in advance.

KG.

[QUOTE=KbNagar;2970575]All.

...... Just all of you mongers out there, please take care and get your tests done!

....[/QUOTE]I have had few TB tests done a few times for various reasons.

Last time was for a visa application. At that time the doctor told me not to have too many TB tests done because after a lot of them, you can start giving false positives.

Apparently they are that sensitive that they can detect the few antibodies you produce in response to the injections given as part of the test.

Gert them done if you really need them, just don't get tested for TB as often as you do for VD.

Every 1-2 months I take a 2 day ivermectin treatment, is good against a multitude of diseases, TB among them, even if downplayed by pharma. I take it mainly for it's primary intended use: worms. We are at the tropics, worms may come, from water (not necessarily when drinking it, but in the eyes when showering, or nose, or brushing your teeth), food, etc, take many years to hatch, and cause irreversible harm.

It's cheap, and has no side effects.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2971330]...and has no side effects.[/QUOTE]Dizziness, nausea, constipation, diarrhea.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2971330]Every 1-2 months I take a 2 day ivermectin treatment, is good against a multitude of diseases,

It's cheap, and has no side effects.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnClayton;2971369]Dizziness, nausea, constipation, diarrhea.[/QUOTE]Haha. To be fair, my ex gave me most of these symptoms on a regular basis (and she never cured anything).

From [URL]https://www.drugs.com/sfx/ivermectin-side-effects.html[/URL]:

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking ivermectin:

[B]More common side effects[/B]

Difficulty in moving.

Muscle pain or stiffness.

Pain in the joints.

Swollen, painful, or tender lymph glands in the armpit.

[B]Less common side effects[/B]

Black, tarry stools.

Bloating or swelling of the face, arms, hands, lower legs, or feet.

Chest pain.

Chills.

Cold sweats.

Cough.

Dizziness or lightheadedness.

Dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up from lying or sitting position.

Eye or eyelid irritation, pain, redness, or swelling.

Fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse.

Feeling of constant movement of self or surroundings.

Fever.

Painful or difficult urination.

Rapid weight gain.

Sensation of spinning.

Shakiness in the legs, arms, hands, or feet.

Sore throat.

Sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth.

Swollen glands.

Tingling of the hands or feet.

Trembling or shaking of the hands or feet.

Trouble breathing.

Unusual bleeding or bruising.

Unusual sleepiness.

Unusual tiredness or weakness.

Unusual weight gain or loss.

[B]Rare side effects.[/B]

Agitation.

Back pain.

Bloody eye.

Blurred vision.

Change in consciousness.

Confusion.

Decreased awareness or responsiveness.

Difficulty in standing or walking.

Hallucinations.

Headache.

Irritability.

Loss of bladder control.

Loss of bowel control.

Loss of consciousness.

Mood or mental changes.

Redness of the eye.

Seizures.

Stiff neck.

Unusual dullness or feeling of sluggishness.

Vomiting.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2971379]Haha. To be fair, my ex gave me most of these symptoms on a regular basis (and she never cured anything).

From [URL]https://www.drugs.com/sfx/ivermectin-side-effects.html[/URL]:

Check with your doctor immediately if any of the following side effects occur while taking ivermectin:

[B]More common side effects[/B]

Difficulty in moving.

Muscle pain or stiffness.

Pain in the joints.

Swollen, painful, or tender lymph glands in the armpit.

[B]Less common side effects[/B]

Black, tarry stools.

Bloating or swelling of the face, arms, hands, lower legs, or feet.

Chest pain.

Chills.

Cold sweats.

Cough.

Dizziness or lightheadedness.

Dizziness, faintness, or lightheadedness when getting up from lying or sitting position.

Eye or eyelid irritation, pain, redness, or swelling.

Fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat or pulse.

Feeling of constant movement of self or surroundings.

Fever.

Painful or difficult urination.

Rapid weight gain.

Sensation of spinning.

Shakiness in the legs, arms, hands, or feet.

Sore throat.

Sores, ulcers, or white spots on the lips or in the mouth.

Swollen glands.

Tingling of the hands or feet.

Trembling or shaking of the hands or feet.

Trouble breathing.

Unusual bleeding or bruising.

Unusual sleepiness.

Unusual tiredness or weakness.

Unusual weight gain or loss.

[B]Rare side effects.[/B]

Agitation.

Back pain.

Bloody eye.

Blurred vision.

Change in consciousness.

Confusion.

Decreased awareness or responsiveness.

Difficulty in standing or walking.

Hallucinations.

Headache.

Irritability.

Loss of bladder control.

Loss of bowel control.

Loss of consciousness.

Mood or mental changes.

Redness of the eye.

Seizures.

Stiff neck.

Unusual dullness or feeling of sluggishness.

Vomiting.[/QUOTE]There is a very simple solution to all these side effects: don't take it! Problem solved. I'll just do my vomiting, and loss of consciousness once a month.

Well its that time of year again. Time for the ACR, 1+ year fellas to report for a BI interview in January / February. I think you might be able to do it online now.

[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/annual-report-season-for-registered-foreign-nationals-begins-on-january/[/URL]

Here is the entire txt from the BI web page:

[I]The Bureau of Immigration is set to kick off the 2025 Annual Report for all registered foreign nationals starting on January.

Registered foreign nationals are required by law to personally report to the BI within the first 60 days of the year, presenting necessary documents for the Annual Report.

Registered foreign nationals include those working, residing, and studying in the country, with ACR I-Cards.

The service, according to BI alien registration division chief Atty. Jose Carlitos Licas, Jr., is available in the BIs online platform at e-services.immigration.gov.ph.

The physical Annual Report for the BIs head office in Manila will be conducted at the 4th Level Center Atrium, Robinsons Manila, and at the Government Service Express (GSE) Unit of SM Mall of Asia, from Mondays to Fridays, excluding holidays, between 9AM to 6PM.

Apart from the two malls, BI offices nationwide may also cater to the reporting. #[/I]

From the BI website, crowing about its accomplishments over the past year:

[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/bi-highlights-2024-achievements-eyes-modernization-in-2025-as-it-moves-towards-bagong-immigration/[/URL]

From the article:

[I]"MANILA, PhilippinesThe Bureau of Immigration (BI) closed 2024 with record-breaking travel figures and notable advancements in modernization, paving the way for streamlined processes and stronger border security in the coming years.

The BI reported a total of 14,540,533 arrivals, comprising 7,922,052 Filipinos and [b]6,618,481 foreigners[/b], alongside 15,050,136 departures, which included 8,348,283 Filipinos and [b]6,701,853 foreigners[/b].

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony Viado attributed the robust numbers to the resurgence of international travel and the Philippines appeal as a premier destination, as a result of the Department of Tourisms aggressive campaign to re-invite foreign tourists back to the country."[/I]

I boldfaced those two numbers on purpose. 6. 6 million foreign arrivals, and 6. 7 million foreign departures for the year. Two thoughts:

1) 2019, the last full year prior to Covid, saw about 8. 5 million arrive. Phils is not quite back to past year's 'full capacity' levels (not quite a record).

2) Regarding the roughly 80,000 more foreigners who left than arrived. Some reasons. The expats die. The expats have given up, and dropped their SRRV or 13 A, and just got TF out. Also I read that there were about 11,000 mostly Chinese POGO deportations last year; given the country usually only deports about 1,500 person per year, that is a dramatic increase.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2973253]From the BI website, crowing about its accomplishments over the past year:

[URL]https://immigration.gov.ph/bi-highlights-2024-achievements-eyes-modernization-in-2025-as-it-moves-towards-bagong-immigration/[/URL]

From the article:

[I]"MANILA, PhilippinesThe Bureau of Immigration (BI) closed 2024 with record-breaking travel figures and notable advancements in modernization, paving the way for streamlined processes and stronger border security in the coming years.

The BI reported a total of 14,540,533 arrivals, comprising 7,922,052 Filipinos and [b]6,618,481 foreigners[/b], alongside 15,050,136 departures, which included 8,348,283 Filipinos and [b]6,701,853 foreigners[/b].

BI Commissioner Joel Anthony Viado attributed the robust numbers to the resurgence of international travel and the Philippines appeal as a premier destination, as a result of the Department of Tourisms aggressive campaign to re-invite foreign tourists back to the country."[/I]

I boldfaced those two numbers on purpose. 6. 6 million foreign arrivals, and 6. 7 million foreign departures for the year. Two thoughts:

1) 2019, the last full year prior to Covid, saw about 8. 5 million arrive. Phils is not quite back to past year's 'full capacity' levels (not quite a record).

2) Regarding the roughly 80,000 more foreigners who left than arrived. Some reasons. The expats die. The expats have given up, and dropped their SRRV or 13 A, and just got TF out. Also I read that there were about 11,000 mostly Chinese POGO deportations last year; given the country usually only deports about 1,500 person per year, that is a dramatic increase.[/QUOTE]Those are good numbers considering how bad the world economy still is. Also it is more expensive now to fly to Asia than it was in 2019.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2973365]Those are good numbers considering how bad the world economy still is. Also it is more expensive now to fly to Asia than it was in 2019.[/QUOTE]Everything cost more money these past 5 years. But there are people who have money. More money than life! I have more money than life. I have money saved from the Covid lock down years. Well, I did until last year. I doubled up my mongering so much that my vitamin V couldn't keep up. LOL. But still a lot of fun. No regrets from 2024.

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2973365]Those are good numbers considering how bad the world economy still is. Also it is more expensive now to fly to Asia than it was in 2019.[/QUOTE]Yes from East coast of US now lucky to stay under 2 k for ticket unless you buy far out. Mine United recently 2. 5 k but I bought 2 weeks out. Prior to COVID 1500 or less was common and that was for a good seat. Hotels and condo's seem about the same but yes airfare has increased and planes were full so doubt they will reduce anytime soon.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2973698]Yes from East coast of US now lucky to stay under 2 k for ticket unless you buy far out. Mine United recently 2. 5 k but I bought 2 weeks out. Prior to COVID 1500 or less was common and that was for a good seat. Hotels and condo's seem about the same but yes airfare has increased and planes were full so doubt they will reduce anytime soon.[/QUOTE]Jeez Loco, it sounds like you guys are really getting ripped off.

I travel 3 times a year from Australia and the average price is usually about $USD700 return with selected seats on PA.

I know it's probably a much shorter flight (8 Hrs) and our dollar is shit at the moment in comparison.

That's a lot of up-front money before accommodation and cash spent on having a great time with the girls.

Long gone are the days of a cheap around the world ticket I used to get via Asia, Europe and North America before returning home.

There was the Filipina on the way, the English girls which were easy to score from any pub (beers were expensive), the Moscow experiences where random hot blondes would knock on your hotel door and then the late night NYC bars where everyone got laid.

Those were the days_ Phil.

I still find cheap ones, but I'm never tied up on some specific dates or routes.

Had to go to Germany for some surgery, and for return I checked all 3 airports CRK, MNL, CEB. I got MUC-CEB one way for 500 $ on Eva Air.

Didn't fly the other way east for 3 years now, but I'll have to do it soon. Again because I'm loose like a leaf in the wind, I may fly to Hawaii, Japan, HK, or China first and take a separate flight from there.

Back when I was on a schedule it was different, had to pay whatever it was, but the prices were much lower then. Once I flew to China from LAX for $99, many times to HK for $299. Also the oposite is true, once I paid almost $3000 for a one way MNL-LAX, or maybe was SFO, because I missed the flight due to bad weather in Surigao, and had to be back in the states, like the day before.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2974220]Had to go to Germany for some surgery, and for return I checked all 3 airports CRK, MNL, CEB. I got MUC-CEB one way for 500 $ on Eva Air.

SNIP

Back when I was on a schedule it was different, had to pay whatever it was, but the prices were much lower then. Once I flew to China from LAX for $99, many times to HK for $299. Also the oposite is true, once I paid almost $3000 for a one way MNL-LAX, or maybe was SFO, because I missed the flight due to bad weather in Surigao, and had to be back in the states, like the day before.[/QUOTE]Airfare from MNL / LAX, 1-way. Cheapest flights March to June, and the last pic is cheapest flights for a random day of Mar 3. Cheapest flight is on China Airlines, under $400 USD.

I have just bought 100 anti diarrhea tablets for future use. Is there any other OTC medicine folk buy? I am looking at ibrofen but not sure if I want such candy. I am often on long hikes and bad water etc has caught me out badly more than once (you don't want the details). As it is all pharmacies here, one must ask what is worth buying here. Korean my hotel are bonking like buck rabbits.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2975490]I have just bought 100 anti diarrhea tablets for future use. Is there any other OTC medicine folk buy? I am looking at ibrofen but not sure if I want such candy. I am often on long hikes and bad water etc has caught me out badly more than once (you don't want the details). As it is all pharmacies here, one must ask what is worth buying here. Korean my hotel are bonking like buck rabbits.[/QUOTE]Imodium will stop it, but you want to let it run for a day or 2, the body is trying to flush out something bad. Other natural remedies are dark chocolate, the darkest you can find, aged cheese, parmesan type, or plain rice. Avoid anything else, especially no sugar, milk, coffee, or greasy stuff. Ibuprofen is anti-inflammatory, I don't think will do anything for the runs.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2975534]Imodium will stop it, but you want to let it run for a day or 2, the body is trying to flush out something bad. [/QUOTE]It is more likely some bad organisms eating all of the nutrients his body needs, which would mean they need to be destroyed immediately.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2975534]Imodium .[/QUOTE]Thanks but I am just stocking up on stuff for future use, not hetr. Good point about the body flushing out stuff. I often get caught short when hiking etc, mixture of my high fibre diet and bad water. Once on a 5 star hotel, all I could eat was plain omelette; I reckon it was water stuffing me up. I am here for aittle over a week mire and have switched to Western fare as the local. Stuff I'd aimed at local gullets, not me.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2975553]Thanks but I am just stocking up on stuff for future use, not hetr. Good point about the body flushing out stuff.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where you are from nor your local prices but I haven't found any medicines in the PI cheaper than home. Esp now that generics are so widely available.

PI benefits are that you can often find anything OTC or worst case after a quick and cheap doc's visit. Also, medical or cosmetic procedures and hospital stays can be a fraction of the cost back home but as usual, research the quality of the institution before going under the knife.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. I'd agree that diahorrea is typically from the water or ice rather than food. It may simply be travellers diahorrea too as your body gets use to the new spices and tastes. I tend to let it run its course for a few days, stay hydrated and then resort to immodium if it lasted any longer.

G.

I just arrived to the Philippines, and I made a few distinctions that can be very useful to fellow hobbyists:

1. The Airport WiFi is not reliable. A great way to prepare for this is to buy a travel eSim before arriving from the Globe App, then as soon as you arrive to any Airport in the Philippines, you can activate it and have internet to access anything you need at the airport or outside for 30 days. You can later on get a different eSim if you plan to stay longer. This is a convenience that lasts for 30 days then expires.

Here is the link I used: [URL]https://www.globe.com.ph/international/traveler-sim[/URL].

2. As I am planning to stay longer than 30 days, you are required to have an exit ticket / an Onward Ticket. Usually, I buy a cheap Cebu Pacific ticket then since those cheaper ones are not refundable, just forfeit the money.

But a found a cheaper option here: [URL]https://onwardticket.com/[/URL].

You will find mixed reviews about it, but I confirm it worked for me, and I know the source of the confusion.

When you activate a ticket from that website, it lasts only 48 hours then it gets cancelled.

So the trick is:

1. Buy a ticket choosing the date as around day 29 or 30 AFTER you arrive to the Philippines.

2. Only activate that ticket within less than 48 hours from your arrival date, so if they check the database it will be active and working.

To do this, there are 2 options: (1) Buying the Onward temporary ticket the day before you arrive to Philippines, (2) but that is a bit too risky for me as I like to plan in advance, so there is the option to activate the ticket "later".

Then, when you arrive to the Philippines airport, you can activate your Globe eSim, and use the internet to click the Onward Ticket activation link they have emailed you to have a fresh active Onward Ticket to show if necessary.

These were 2 new discovered for me, happy to share and pay forward.

In my research, I also found it is possible to use this app to get eSims before arriving to a country, but I have not used it yet:

[URL]https://saily.com/esim-philippines/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;2975827]2. As I am planning to stay longer than 30 days, you are required to have an exit ticket / an Onward Ticket. Usually, I buy a cheap Cebu Pacific ticket then since those cheaper ones are not refundable, just forfeit the money.

But a found a cheaper option here: [URL]https://onwardticket.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Some years back, some fella posted a similar link. That website made a reservation in your name for a legit flight of your choosing, then emailed you the reservation details including the airline reference number, then cancelled the reservation, all in the blink of an eye. They charged $14 for this service, and I availed and used the service. I recall choosing an outbound date 25 days after arrival. I was aware when the Immigration officer would ask for my outbound ticket, that it was already cancelled and worthless, hoping he didn't check. However he didn't ask for anything, he just stamped my PP and waved me thru.

Symp's site sounds similar. Symp, what is the cost of using the site for this service?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2975840]Symp's site sounds similar. Symp, what is the cost of using the site for this service?[/QUOTE]It's probably the same website because it used to be $14 which is what you mentioned, and now it costs $16 for any ticket.

For The Philippines, this might be more necessary than before because you require to fill in eTravel as a foreigner before you arrive. And in the eTravel website, they ask you to put in your flight details with the flight number etc. No clue if the backend checks whether it is legit or not, so might as well spend $16 for the peace of mind.

However, as far as I am aware, what usually happens if you don't have an exit ticket is they ask you to buy one using your phone or an office there. So in that case, someone without an onward ticket but who has internet can use OnwardTicket only if the officer demands it. It takes a couple of minutes and you will have that temporary ticket ready to show on your phone.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;2975846]OnwardTicket only if the officer demands it. It takes a couple of minutes and you will have that temporary ticket ready to show on your phone.[/QUOTE]Instead of doing this I buy a ticket for to Singapore from Cebu pacific and pick "GO Flexi" this allows you cancel and instantly get the money back in a non expiring travel fund and rotate this ticket as needed. The travel fund is non expiring so I use this to buy tickets for people or myself or just rotate this fund again so I have a legit ticket. $0 paid to use this as you get the money back. I don't think it refunds the airport tax so never add that onto the ticket.

Last year arriving at Clark, I had to produce my onward tickets, which was a return leg which most would have. I imagine an onward ticket is always essential. I got bushwhacked by the new evisa system and I got my card filled up at Manila airport with great difficulty. I am unsure why anyone would spend $17 or so for a fake ticket.

Why not keep things simple?

[QUOTE=ThreeInches;2975870]Instead of doing this I buy a ticket for to Singapore from Cebu pacific and pick "GO Flexi" this allows you cancel and instantly get the money back in a non expiring travel fund and rotate this ticket as needed. The travel fund is non expiring so I use this to buy tickets for people or myself or just rotate this fund again so I have a legit ticket. $0 paid to use this as you get the money back. I don't think it refunds the airport tax so never add that onto the ticket.[/QUOTE]Previously CP's travel fund expired in just 90 days, leaving most 30-days-or-less tourists, who visit once or twice a year, out of luck. Once CP went to non-expiring travel fund, I started doing exactly what you do.

[I][b]Jarango[/b]: I am unsure why anyone would spend $17 or so for a fake ticket. Why not keep things simple?[/I]

Some of the inbound fellas want to stay past the initial 30 days, and did not take the time (before arriving) to seek out the 59-day visa; they want to buy a 1-way ticket to enter, and then decide later when to depart. Alternately some fellas want to stay indefinitely, and thus just want a 1-way ticket into Phils. Either way, they must show an outbound ticket. Paying $17 is small potatoes to game the system, so that you can ignore that outbound flight without paying for it once you enter, and decide later when to leave.

In prep for a 2 day layover in Macau, I did some reading about the mongering there, I been there before, but I was still married back then, and with the wife, so I didn't really had the chance to sample the goods.

The prices for services that are net inferior to PH, performed in saunas, maybe with better looking girls, are 10 X PH, and the guys are all excited about the evening gowns that the girls are wearing, now I know for sure where all this bullshit comes from, spilling in to the PH, asian imbeciles having Hollywood gala fantasies, instead of sexual ones, ruining the view for everybody, and helping conceal undesired body features, like a belly or mosquito bites sized boobs.

It appears that a few hours in a sauna, with clearly professional, well predefined services may set you back around USD1000.

Lots of desperate people in this world!

Glad to be in the Philippines!

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2974058]Jeez Loco, it sounds like you guys are really getting ripped off.

I travel 3 times a year from Australia and the average price is usually about $USD700 return with selected seats on PA.

I know it's probably a much shorter flight (8 Hrs) and our dollar is shit at the moment in comparison.

That's a lot of up-front money before accommodation and cash spent on having a great time with the girls.

Long gone are the days of a cheap around the world ticket I used to get via Asia, Europe and North America before returning home.

There was the Filipina on the way, the English girls which were easy to score from any pub (beers were expensive), the Moscow experiences where random hot blondes would knock on your hotel door and then the late night NYC bars where everyone got laid.

Those were the days_ Phil.[/QUOTE]HaHaHa. Yeah you Aussie guys got it made your 3 times closer so yeah much cheaper. If I lived that close, what is it 8 HR flight, ID be there every weekend. Wish I was that close as from New York its a haul. Probably good thing I'm not, pussy that close would be too tempting.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2976649]HaHaHa. Yeah you Aussie guys got it made your 3 times closer so yeah much cheaper. If I lived that close, what is it 8 HR flight, ID be there every weekend. Wish I was that close as from New York its a haul. Probably good thing I'm not, pussy that close would be too tempting.[/QUOTE]Yes Mate, it's very close and very tempting to just go "Fuck it, I'm buying another ticket".

Now that would drain the cash pretty quickly. Thankfully I'm somewhat disciplined and combine my visits with business 2-4 times a year. Having said that, I'm admittedly not that disciplined when I'm in The Phils and have numerous sweet little pussies to enjoy. It's definitely not all work and no play_Phil.

I'm in the ph right now and having a good time.

Couple of days ago I met a really fun and good looking girl in Manila. I'm traveling to Palawan today and have invited her to travel with me for 3 days. She's flying over in a couple of days.

Her company will be a lot of fun.

I was wondering besides paying for the trip how much should I pay her for the 3 days? What seems like a fair price to you guys or do just have it depend on the service she gives during the stay?

I'll write some reports on the forum for yesterday I had a 19 year old sweet girl that it almost felt wrong to be with her until she was in the bed and transformed into a wild thing.

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2977453]I'm in the ph right now and having a good time.

Couple of days ago I met a really fun and good looking girl in Manila. I'm traveling to Palawan today and have invited her to travel with me for 3 days. She's flying over in a couple of days.

Her company will be a lot of fun.

I was wondering besides paying for the trip how much should I pay her for the 3 days? What seems like a fair price to you guys or do just have it depend on the service she gives during the stay?

I'll write some reports on the forum for yesterday I had a 19 year old sweet girl that it almost felt wrong to be with her until she was in the bed and transformed into a wild thing.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]Where did you meet her? Is she a hooker? Why pay her any thing? You're paying for her travel, food, expenses. This seems like a normal relationship. Buy her some gifts maybe? If you want to treat her like a hooker, I'd ask her how much she wants. Otherwise, its really up to you.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2977453]I'm in the ph right now and having a good time.

Couple of days ago I met a really fun and good looking girl in Manila. I'm traveling to Palawan today and have invited her to travel with me for 3 days. She's flying over in a couple of days.

Her company will be a lot of fun.

I was wondering besides paying for the trip how much should I pay her for the 3 days? What seems like a fair price to you guys or do just have it depend on the service she gives during the stay?

I'll write some reports on the forum for yesterday I had a 19 year old sweet girl that it almost felt wrong to be with her until she was in the bed and transformed into a wild thing.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]3 k-5 k a day is fair. Plus a bigger tip if you really enjoy her.

YOLO so don't cheap out on her.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2977453]I'm in the ph right now and having a good time.

Couple of days ago I met a really fun and good looking girl in Manila. I'm traveling to Palawan today and have invited her to travel with me for 3 days. She's flying over in a couple of days.

Her company will be a lot of fun.

I was wondering besides paying for the trip how much should I pay her for the 3 days? What seems like a fair price to you guys or do just have it depend on the service she gives during the stay?

I'll write some reports on the forum for yesterday I had a 19 year old sweet girl that it almost felt wrong to be with her until she was in the bed and transformed into a wild thing.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]I assume a couple of days because she has work commitments and is joining you for the weekend?? If that's the case, she may be offended by a straight cash for fun offer. It's normal to pay all travel, accommodation and meal costs. Be nice and get her some souvenirs or a bikini and some pasalbulong (gifts from travelling) for her friends and family. Costs will be trivial, maybe 2-3 k each category.

Did you pay her for the Manila fun? If so just pay her the same day rate. 4-5 k per day is fair. Remember that hookers can't eat Aircon and nice sheets so don't expect a discount because you are treating her nice.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2976649]HaHaHa. Yeah you Aussie guys got it made your 3 times closer so yeah much cheaper. If I lived that close, what is it 8 HR flight, ID be there every weekend. Wish I was that close as from New York its a haul. Probably good thing I'm not, pussy that close would be too tempting.[/QUOTE]What do you mean? There is Colombia and Brazil that are that close. And Dominican Republic only 3 hours from New York. Many guys like Cuba too.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2977633] Remember that hookers can't eat Aircon and nice sheets so don't expect a discount because you are treating her nice.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]And.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2976850]I'm admittedly not that disciplined when I'm in The Phils and have numerous sweet little pussies to enjoy. It's definitely not all work and no play_Phil.[/QUOTE]And.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2976476]
Lots of desperate people in this world!

Glad to be in the Philippines![/QUOTE]And.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2977266]Itty bitty sub-5' thang needs a pee-nanshal for her upcoming school needs. Guess who was there to slip something into her. . . . purse. . .[/QUOTE]And.

All the others, thank you so much for your reports and information. Was reading all posts from August 2024 regarding the Phils, took me around 2 weeks LOL, and got all information that I need and even more.

It will be my first time at The Phils, will stay 30 days, I have travel experiences in Africa, but there with a partner, first time alone on the road. And hunt.

Again, Thank you.

I came across a web site recently offering really cheap Tadalafil. 20 MG tabs for 90 peso each. That is roughly 10% of the Cialis price for a 20 MG tab, should be good for 4 days fun. Lots of other prescription and non prescription stuff available as well.

An obvious scam thinks I, but a little googling says it is most likely legitimate so I decide to try.

I ordered 10 tabs, 900 p to get the free shipping over 800 p. Pay by card. It arrived from Manila to Cebu province in 6 days, plain packaging. In Manila might be able to get it in a couple days. They listed a pick up option but I never really looked at that. One full card of 10 tabs well packed.

There were a few questions posing as a medical review because it is a prescription drug, but easy to see which were the correct answers to get approved. Questions took about 3 minutes and approval was instant.

I tried a half tab to see, and as far as I can tell it is the genuine stuff. Two and a half days later, still easy to get really hard erection. Which is pretty good for a guy in late 60's.

[URL]www.medsgo.ph[/URL]

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2977453]I'm in the ph right now and having a good time.

Couple of days ago I met a really fun and good looking girl in Manila. I'm traveling to Palawan today and have invited her to travel with me for 3 days. She's flying over in a couple of days.

Her company will be a lot of fun.

I was wondering besides paying for the trip how much should I pay her for the 3 days? What seems like a fair price to you guys or do just have it depend on the service she gives during the stay?

I'll write some reports on the forum for yesterday I had a 19 year old sweet girl that it almost felt wrong to be with her until she was in the bed and transformed into a wild thing.

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]If it's a straight forward transaction type companionship, I would pay less than the daily rate, because it's like a guaranteed 3 day BF, that she may not get if she stayed at work. The fact that you're offering her a vacation is nice for her but if she's loosing potential income over this, that's not putting rice on her family dinner table, If her BF was 5 k then I would pay her 2-3 K / day depending on how many gifts you're buying.

If she's kind of your future GF, and no previous monetary transaction was involved, I would still ask at the end of the journey nicely if she needs any money, and give her a 5 K "pocket money".

Also you have time 3 days to do a gentle interrogation, to find out more about her situation, and needs.

[QUOTE=DomBull;2977663]Thank you so much for your reports and information. Was reading all posts from August 2024 regarding the Phils, took me around 2 weeks LOL, and got all information that I need and even more.

It will be my first time at The Phils, will stay 30 days, I have travel experiences in Africa, but there with a partner, first time alone on the road. And hunt.

Again, Thank you.[/QUOTE]Not a problem Dom and enjoy your trip.

That's the great thing about this forum as there is a lot of experience here.

And it's diverse as not everyone's into the same thing or the same 'usual' locations.

Sometimes thinking outside the box can unearth some amazing experiences.

I think you'll find after your first trip, you'll definitely have a taste for more of The Phils.

Just don't be afraid of making 'mistakes' along the way. I'm sure we've all done it.

But we keep coming back for more and that says something about the place.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2977729]
There were a few questions posing as a medical review because it is a prescription drug, but easy to see which were the correct answers to get approved. Questions took about 3 minutes and approval was instant.
[/QUOTE]Good looking out I just ordered a 90 day supply. Thanks for the tip.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2977741]If it's a straight forward transaction type companionship, I would pay less than the daily rate, because it's like a guaranteed 3 day BF, that she may not get if she stayed at work. The fact that you're offering her a vacation is nice for her but if she's loosing potential income over this, that's not putting rice on her family dinner table, If her BF was 5 k then I would pay her 2-3 K / day depending on how many gifts you're buying.

If she's kind of your future GF, and no previous monetary transaction was involved, I would still ask at the end of the journey nicely if she needs any money, and give her a 5 K "pocket money".

Also you have time 3 days to do a gentle interrogation, to find out more about her situation, and needs.[/QUOTE]Two to 3 k a day? Well maybe. Either she really really likes you or lower on the looks scale or is from a province and very naïve. Bar girls and others I know generally don't take a trip for less than 5 k a day and one I know just got 20 k a day to Boracay, granted she is a beauty. Earlier comments aside, bargin as you see fit and good luck you never know, you may be the man of her dreams and she goes for free, it all depends.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2977636]What do you mean? There is Colombia and Brazil that are that close. And Dominican Republic only 3 hours from New York. Many guys like Cuba too.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know many have suggested this. Too dangerious for me Ill pass. Cartels or drug lords watch out for white Americans. Law and order in allot of these places does not exist. You think the ones Trumps ICE is currently picking up and shipping home won't be pissed, no thanks. Its probably ok if careful but watching podcast on these places girls and pimps can set you up and do very often. Not risking my life for pussy, Ill just stick with the long ride.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2977880]Two to 3 k a day? Well maybe. Either she really really likes you or lower on the looks scale or is from a province and very nave. Bar girls and others I know generally don't take a trip for less than 5 k a day and one I know just got 20 k a day to Boracay, granted she is a beauty. Earlier comments aside, bargin as you see fit and good luck you never know, you may be the man of her dreams and she goes for free, it all depends.[/QUOTE]I didn't do this long term renting for 3 years, I have a steady GF now, maybe the prices have changed, but I assure you that the ones I had in tow were turning heads. 2-3 k is all they get from the BF anyway, If they accompany you, they get the same money and is guaranteed, back at the bar they may not get BF. On top of that they are getting fed in nice restaurants, and get to take selfies for their tiktok or fb.

The girls in the pic: one was rented for the above mentioned amount, and the second one came for free being my GF at the time. I can't show their faces, but from what you can see, I don't think they fall in the ugly category.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2978070]I didn't do this long term renting for 3 years, I have a steady GF now, maybe the prices have changed, but I assure you that the ones I had in tow were turning heads. 2-3 k is all they get from the BF anyway, If they accompany you, they get the same money and is guaranteed, back at the bar they may not get BF. On top of that they are getting fed in nice restaurants, and get to take selfies for their tiktok or fb.

The girls in the pic: one was rented for the above mentioned amount, and the second one came for free being my GF at the time. I can't show their faces, but from what you can see, I don't think they fall in the ugly category.[/QUOTE]Yep they are just fine, obviously I'm shopping in the wrong area.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2977883]Yeah I know many have suggested this. Too dangerious for me Ill pass. Cartels or drug lords watch out for white Americans. Law and order in allot of these places does not exist. You think the ones Trumps ICE is currently picking up and shipping home won't be pissed, no thanks. Its probably ok if careful but watching podcast on these places girls and pimps can set you up and do very often. Not risking my life for pussy, Ill just stick with the long ride.[/QUOTE]LOL Warching podcasts? That is why most folks are scared to go out of their houses: watching the news and podcasts. It is a big world out there. Do not let podcasts scare you away from it. Nobody is paying attention to White Americans. What does somebody else's penalty for breaking the law have to do with you and you traveling? But it seems they have you where they want you: full of fear.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2978070]2-3 k is all they get from the BF anyway, If they accompany you, they get the same money and is guaranteed, back at the bar they may not get BF. [/QUOTE]Exactly. Why do people always factor in the bar money as being guaranteed? Like them going in to work is definitely going to get someone paying money for them.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2978070]I didn't do this long term renting for 3 years, I have a steady GF now, maybe the prices have changed, but I assure you that the ones I had in tow were turning heads. 2-3 k is all they get from the BF anyway, If they accompany you, they get the same money and is guaranteed, back at the bar they may not get BF. On top of that they are getting fed in nice restaurants, and get to take selfies for their tiktok or fb.

The girls in the pic: one was rented for the above mentioned amount, and the second one came for free being my GF at the time. I can't show their faces, but from what you can see, I don't think they fall in the ugly category.[/QUOTE]Well done.

These past few years I am paying 3-5 k a day per girl. I have known the girls a while so we are compatible. I have taken probably 8 girls. At the most 2 at one time. Been to Boracay and El Nido and Alona resorts. Had a good time with all. The girls didn't demand 5 k a day, I just felt like paying it.

BTW, the girls have rent, food and family expenses to pay while on vacation with you. That is why they are working. Rent and expenses don't take a holiday when you take them on vacation.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2977880] ...and one I know just got 20 k a day to Boracay, granted she is a beauty...[/QUOTE]I haven't found prices to be directly proportional to looks and definitely not attitude / performance. 20 k is either she didn't want to go with the guy in the first place or she had her sense of self value distorted by IG or Seeking simps. Unfortunately the later is becoming more and more common.

ID see a civilian accepting a weekend away from work including some gifts for her and her friends as totally achievable. The same for a commercial arrangement at repeat customer rates.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2956563]

A dirty weekend out of town together was 1100 for her return bus fare, no increased accommodation cost for a cheap Airbnb, pasalubong for the family was 1100 and I bought her two blouses for 1200 total. Food costs were minimal as she watched what she spent. Saturday night out was one SML Apple for the evening.

[/QUOTE]Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2977729]I came across a web site recently offering really cheap Tadalafil. 20 MG tabs for 90 peso each. That is roughly 10% of the Cialis price for a 20 MG tab, should be good for 4 days fun. Lots of other prescription and non prescription stuff available as well.

[URL]www.medsgo.ph[/URL][/QUOTE]About p100 ($2 USD) per 100 mb vitamin V tablet. Good catch.

Side effects:

Prolonged erection. [b]Like that's a bad thing.[/b]
Sudden vision changes. [b]Just the last 30 seconds.[/b]
Blurred vision. [b]Stop using when you start to need eyeglasses to have sex.[/b]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2978112]About p100 ($2 USD) per 100 mb vitamin V tablet. Good catch.

Side effects:

Prolonged erection. [b]Like that's a bad thing.[/b]
Sudden vision changes. [b]Just the last 30 seconds.[/b]
Blurred vision. [b]Stop using when you start to need eyeglasses to have sex.[/b][/QUOTE]I just tried to buy some Doxy and amoxiclav, the doxy they sent w / o a script but they want to call me about the amoxiclav witch I need for a tooth that's bothering me ATM unrelated to mongering.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2978098]Well done.

These past few years I am paying 3-5 k a day per girl. I have known the girls a while so we are compatible. I have taken probably 8 girls. At the most 2 at one time. Been to Boracay and El Nido and Alona resorts. Had a good time with all. The girls didn't demand 5 k a day, I just felt like paying it.

BTW, the girls have rent, food and family expenses to pay while on vacation with you. That is why they are working. Rent and expenses don't take a holiday when you take them on vacation.[/QUOTE]One time I had 3 girls with me to Boracay, and regardless of the fact that I had full cooperation, and porn like orgies going on, it was too much to handle, It is one thing when you have a lot of people in your bed in AC, and when is over they leave, and another when you try to make them happy with little favors all day long (ice cream, bracelets, etc). It just happened, first one said that she wants her friend with her, then later she said that her cousin from Manila will like to join us, I said no, but when she showed me the picture, I would have ditched both of them for the cousin, so she came on board too. It appeared that they all call themself cousins, but they are not related, so the orgy had full cooperation, just like intended, no blood relatives there.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2978081]Yep they are just fine, obviously I'm shopping in the wrong area.[/QUOTE]You're in the right place, all it takes is patience.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2977883]Yeah I know many have suggested this. Too dangerious for me Ill pass. Cartels or drug lords watch out for white Americans. Law and order in allot of these places does not exist. You think the ones Trumps ICE is currently picking up and shipping home won't be pissed, no thanks.[/QUOTE]Fair call Loco.

I've looked at other locations or some alternatives, but the Phils always delivers.

And sometimes it's worth the extra travel for a fulfilling time in place you're familiar with and enjoy.

If the Phils does it for you, then go for it. Just still can't believe the airlines screw you guys before the Filipinas do.

_ Phil.

For first-timers or people who haven't been in a while.

Coming from the US, here are the current entry procedures.

ETravel app has become the only entry requirement. You must fill this out within the four-day window of entering the country. For example, if you're entering on the 20, you fill it out on or after the 17th. ETravel replaces all immigration and customs-related paperwork. When completed, they will issue you a QR code, and it will be scanned later.

Upon exiting the aircraft, you will be taken to immigration. There are two lines: one for Filipinos, and one for non-Filipinos. The line moves pretty fast. They may ask you for a plane ticket to show you are leaving within 30 days, as this is a requirement. I am asked probably half of the time. If you don't have one you can show them, it could be trouble. Make sure you have one just in case. It is easy to book a refundable ticket or even rent a ticket for $14-16 that self-cancels. After getting your passport stamped, next is baggage claim.

Here, don't expect to leave soon. In my experience, it takes forever. It seems like it gets longer every trip. When I can, I try my best to keep it to a carry on to minimize wait time. Plus, less baggage to lug around is better. Helpful hint: roll your clothes when you pack your luggage and it almost doubles what you can pack.

I don't think most of us have to worry about customs. This is where you have to scan your eTravel QR code. If you don't have one, they will make you go online and fill one out. If you don't have a phone with data connection, this is hard. It's better to do it before you ever leave your home country. There is no free WiFi in Terminal 1 that is reliable.

After clearing customs, it is up to you what you do next.

Helpful Hints.

- Bring cash with you and change it at the currency exchange. I was happy I did this on my last trip because no ATM in the lobby was working. Just make sure your bills are crisp and clean. They will not exchange dirty or creased bills.

- Bring a phone that is unlocked and get a local SIM card. I personally like Globe PH. Download the Globe One app and you can get an eSIM, then load it. The Go99 promo has calls, texts, and 18 gb data. If you're usually on WiFi in a hotel or home and you use mobile data only when you're outside, it's more than enough, and for about $2 per week. There is no need to get the "unlimited" data SIM cards you see in the airport. It's about $60 per month, and I would rightfully call that a scam.

- Download the Grab app. It's the Philippines version of Uber. Don't be the sitting-duck foreigner using the taxis. I've taken Grab from the US Embassy area to Terminal 4 and paid about 250 php (about $5), whereas a taxi had quoted me over 2 k php ($40).

- If you're staying in Manila, consider a hotel that has a free airport shuttle. Most of the hotels that offer this are not the nicest, but they are clean and nice enough. If you need a ride, go to the Grab kiosk and book your ride there. Do not use the Grab app at the airport. In my experience, the drivers give priority to the kiosk and will not take the booking from your phone at the airport.

- Sometime after April, the new company managing NAIA is going to remap the terminals again. All international flights will be routed to Terminal 3, in the new plan. This is really good for several reasons. There is a foot bridge from Terminal 3 to Newport City across from Terminal 3. If you don't mind walking to your hotel, it is free. There is Savoy, Belmont Hotel, Marriott, Megaworld, etc. These are probably some of the nicest hotels near the airport, and they seem to be girl-friendly, too.

The eGOV app is for entry, and exit, and is for everybody, filipinos included.

The return ticket is needed before you board your flight.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2978711]The eGOV app is for entry, and exit, and is for everybody, filipinos included.

The return ticket is needed before you board your flight.[/QUOTE]For all of my covid+ entries, originating in the US, at the check-in process they requested the e-Travel (now eGOV) bar / QR code and asked for the onward / outbound ticket at SFO or LAX. As airport wifi might be spotty, it might be a good idea at your home or hotel, when completing the eTravel app process and get your QR code, to screen capture the barcode.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2978741]For all of my covid+ entries, originating in the US, at the check-in process they requested the e-Travel (now eGOV) bar / QR code and asked for the onward / outbound ticket at SFO or LAX. As airport wifi might be spotty, it might be a good idea at your home or hotel, when completing the eTravel app process and get your QR code, to screen capture the barcode.[/QUOTE]I'm traveling right now, I'm in Thailand, and I forgot to do the eGov for exiting PH, I had to stay on the side and do it, and it's not fun to look up all the info while under pressure.

Also don't forget the visa extensions, they didn't ask me for it this time, but every single time before.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2978769]I'm traveling right now, I'm in Thailand, and I forgot to do the eGov for exiting PH, I had to stay on the side and do it, and it's not fun to look up all the info while under pressure.

Also don't forget the visa extensions, they didn't ask me for it this time, but every single time before.[/QUOTE]When do you have to fill it out for exiting the country? I thought it was just for Filipinos or SSRV or similar visa holders. I've never stayed past 59 days at one time, so I wouldn't know. I was there just two days my last trip 😂128514;128514;.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2978769]I'm traveling right now, I'm in Thailand, and I forgot to do the eGov for exiting PH, I had to stay on the side and do it, and it's not fun to look up all the info while under pressure.Also don't forget the visa extensions, they didn't ask me for it this time, but every single time before.[/QUOTE]I have just left the Phils and did not have to fin in visas in real or virtual format. I was well within my visa period.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2978776]When do you have to fill it out for exiting the country? I thought it was just for Filipinos or SSRV or similar visa holders. I've never stayed past 59 days at one time, so I wouldn't know. I was there just two days my last trip 😂128514;128514;.[/QUOTE]Come to think of it, I don't think I've eTravel-ed or eGov'd on the outbound since 2022. Anyone else?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2978804]Come to think of it, I don't think I've eTravel-ed or eGov'd on the outbound since 2022. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]Same here. Etravel website says following still:

Arriving Filipino and foreign crewmembers;.
Arriving Filipino and foreign passengers;.
And Departing Filipino passengers.

We had group of expats over from many countries recently, none of them had to fill it in for exit.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2978804]Come to think of it, I don't think I've eTravel-ed or eGov'd on the outbound since 2022. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]Not here either Westie upon departure.

The funny thing about filling it out before you arrive is they ask for your hotel / address when staying in The Phils. I usually stay one or two nights in Manila before moving on and they accept the initial Manila hotel address as your primary location. Travelling to Russia quite a while back, they wanted to know 'everything', besides what you last had to eat, to keep track of you while you were there.

The best thing about eTravel is, it now eliminates the need to find a pen, hotel address and your passport when awoken mid-sleep on a flight to fill in an arrival card. You do all of that in five minutes at home a day or two before you depart.

Despite the mayhem on the ground in Manila, once you stroll through customs without a question asked or a bag checked, The Phils is still one of the easiest places I've ever had to enter.

_ Phil.

I always fill it up, they never asked, this was first time I didn't, and the officer made me do it. He said is mandatory once you enter, even if you stay only one day, and if you open the app it kind of looks like is waiting for you to finish the trip, with a departure. Good they didn't asked for the visa extension, because I had it, but I couldn't find it on line.
Maybe he didn't like me, or maybe they don't bother, but this time did because my GF didn't had it filled up either.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2978769]

Also don't forget the visa extensions, they didn't ask me for it this time, but every single time before.[/QUOTE]Same for me last trip. She didn't even ask about length of stay or visas. It was me that asked whether I could get 59 days immediately rather than finding a Immi office later. She referred me to the office in the airport. It was a super easy process. The longest part was finding the exact cash to pay them.

G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2978823]

Despite the mayhem on the ground in Manila, once you stroll through customs without a question asked or a bag checked, The Phils is still one of the easiest places I've ever had to enter.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Agreed.

I travel light and, if I can avoid the bag weight Nazis at departure, often I'll sneak my bag on as carry on. This makes the longest part of arrival finding a taxi.

G.

Hello all,

I am one of those who comes and reads but usually doesn't post much.

In fact, I was in Makati last September, got drunk and didn't play until the last morning I spent there.

The point is that I want to know about the best place to exchange USD to pesos. I exchanged at the airport but if any of you knows a better place, I'the be happy to know.

Thank you gents.

[QUOTE=Fleaker29;2978966]The point is that I want to know about the best place to exchange USD to pesos. I exchanged at the airport but if any of you knows a better place, I'the be happy to know.

Thank you gents.[/QUOTE]Hi Fleaker,

I usually get all my Pesos via online foreign exchange before I leave home and it just saves all the mucking around when you're on the ground in the Phils finding the best rates etc.

Additionally, you don't have to worry about getting cash when you first arrive when you can be heading straight to your hotel and getting straight into the action or catching up with a contact.

I've always returned home with lots of pesos and just keep them for my next visit.

Just an alternative _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2979082]Hi Fleaker,

I usually get all my Pesos via online foreign exchange before I leave home and it just saves all the mucking around when you're on the ground in the Phils finding the best rates etc.

Additionally, you don't have to worry about getting cash when you first arrive when you can be heading straight to your hotel and getting straight into the action or catching up with a contact.

I've always returned home with lots of pesos and just keep them for my next visit.

Just an alternative _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Thank you Phil.

I'm not used to the online exchange thing as I'm not from the US. I come from México and I have learned not to exchange here to a 3rd country's currency as you lose way too much.

The best thing for us is to 1st exchange to USD or EUR and then to the local currency on arrival to the last country.

I want to go to Shanghai, Bangkok, Philippines and Japan next month.

Not planning to play in China, just some shopping.

[QUOTE=Fleaker29;2978966]Hello all,

I am one of those who comes and reads but usually doesn't post much.

In fact, I was in Makati last September, got drunk and didn't play until the last morning I spent there.

The point is that I want to know about the best place to exchange USD to pesos. I exchanged at the airport but if any of you knows a better place, I'the be happy to know.

Thank you gents.[/QUOTE]The airport has a fair rate, just a peso or so below the street vendors. Street vendors have the best rate. Specifically, there is a vendor located next door to Sunette Towers, called Hanady. On Abaca St at corner Durban St, just across the street from the Durban Hotel. Just half a block from Burgos St corner Durban St. See pics.

Best to either bring a small amount of pesos from your home country (hit up your bank a few days prior to travel), or alternately hit up the airport exchange for a small amount (ie, $50 USD) initially for taxi fare and a meal, before hitting the street exchangers.

[QUOTE=Fleaker29;2978966]Hello all,

I am one of those who comes and reads but usually doesn't post much.[/QUOTE]Don't be a taker and not a giver. Please post us a solid field report of your experiences, as we are helping you along here.

[QUOTE=Fleaker29;2978966]The point is that I want to know about the best place to exchange USD to pesos. I exchanged at the airport but if any of you knows a better place, I'the be happy to know.[/QUOTE]This being 2025, I would say the ATM. I came out of immigration today and as always walked right over to the BDO ATM. I did 2 withdrawals of 10,000 each, plus 250 peso fee. The total out of my account on each transaction was $175.23, for an exchange rate of 58.49. Schwab will give me the 250 peso fee for each transaction back at the end of the month. Here in Angeles the exchange places are saying 58.10.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2979106]Don't be a taker and not a giver. Please post us a solid field report of your experiences, as we are helping you along here.[/QUOTE]The thing is that I visited all bars in Burgos and had a San Miguel beer at each. By the Pat one, I asked for one more that I could barely sip and had to drink water.

Ended up going back to my room with a Wendy's combo with me.

Next morning I got a PF girl for about 2 hours for $3,000 pesos and got to BBFS with her.

That was about it.

I'm planning a longer stay this February as I only spent 2 nights last time.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2979106]Don't be a taker and not a giver. Please post us a solid field report of your experiences, as we are helping you along here.[/QUOTE]The thing is that I visited all bars in Burgos and had a San Miguel beer at each. By the Pat one, I asked for one more that I could barely sip and had to drink water.

Ended up going back to my room with a Wendy's combo with me.

Next morning I got a PF girl for about 2 hours for $3,000 pesos and got to BBFS with her.

That was about it.

I'm planning a longer stay this February as I only spent 2 nights last time.

I am still confused about the legal situation in the PH.

It is clear, prostitution is illegal for the hookers, not for the men. But regarding the age, I see a lot of preoccupation here regarding the age and ID card.

To be with a girl, the legal age is. ? (I just saw the 16 years thing from some years ago, when the law changed).

So, had anybody really problems to be with a hooker?

And had anybody really a problem to be scammed by a false ID card?

And is the "legal" age for our "illegal " hunting 18 or 16?

[QUOTE=Fleaker29;2979156]The thing is that I visited all bars in Burgos and had a San Miguel beer at each. By the Pat one, I asked for one more that I could barely sip and had to drink water.

Ended up going back to my room with a Wendy's combo with me.

Next morning I got a PF girl for about 2 hours for $3,000 pesos and got to BBFS with her.

That was about it.

I'm planning a longer stay this February as I only spent 2 nights last time.[/QUOTE]Fair report guy.

PSA: Another PAL flash sale. See pics for details. Booking timeframe is short, Feb 2-3, about one day. Which means their system will be inundated at the time (be prepared for app and browser failures / slowdowns in your reservation attempts).

Travel dates are Feb 10 - March 31.

10-20% savings.

For the tech savvy.

My play phone won't accept an eSIM. I want to have working data on arrival but it takes forever to buy a package at NAIA Arrivals. Can I get Globe or Smart data to work from home before I leave? Just data. I don't need call or txt.

If there is a solution, explain it like I'm a 4 year old. I'm no good at this stuff.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Fleaker29;2978966]Hello all,

I am one of those who comes and reads but usually doesn't post much.

In fact, I was in Makati last September, got drunk and didn't play until the last morning I spent there.

The point is that I want to know about the best place to exchange USD to pesos. I exchanged at the airport but if any of you knows a better place, I'the be happy to know.

Thank you gents.[/QUOTE]If you are close to: the Casinos have the best rates.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2979930]For the tech savvy.

My play phone won't accept an eSIM. I want to have working data on arrival but it takes forever to buy a package at NAIA Arrivals. Can I get Globe or Smart data to work from home before I leave? Just data. I don't need call or txt.

If there is a solution, explain it like I'm a 4 year old. I'm no good at this stuff.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Do you have a Phils SIM already? Even if it's been unused for a few months I think. You can download the globe app and top up.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2979934]Do you have a Phils SIM already? Even if it's been unused for a few months I think. You can download the globe app and top up.[/QUOTE]I found an old Smart SIM but I think it's well over 12 months old. I remember I only used Globe last trip. Any way, for what ever reason I couldn't top up online thru the app.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2979937]I found an old Smart SIM but I think it's well over 12 months old. I remember I only used Globe last trip. Any way, for what ever reason I couldn't top up online thru the app.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ding.com/[/URL]

Try Ding dot com. Using your CC, you can load in many countries, including your Globe SIM. Its easy. The downside is the fee. They charge about a 50% fee. You want to load the SIM with p500, and they charge your card p700 or so. Get in there and root around (good advice for all mongers). Report back any success. I used it for years prior to G-Cash.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2979934]Do you have a Phils SIM already? Even if it's been unused for a few months I think. You can download the globe app and top up.[/QUOTE]Your Phils SIM cards are usually good to be dormant out of the country for a year or less.

I find the Globe One app to be disorganized and dysfunctional. There is an area in the app where you can make payments to your account from GC or a CC. But I could never get the CC part to work (even though my CC was in their system already when I signed up for post-paid service), especially when I was out of the country (or so I thought). When I returned and waltzed into a Globe store to show them that it would not work, I got: "Oh. No sir. Of course not". Good sir, was it because I was out of the country for a month? It also hasn't worked since I returned. "No sir. You want to change to your new credit card?" Yes, the old one was fraud-frozen by the bank. I have a new CC account now. "You can't do that". Why not? There is a place in the app for adding the new card. "Yes sir. But you can not do that in the app". Why not? "It does not work sir". Then why have it in the app? "I don't know sir". So how to get my new CC info in? "I can do it here now". How to do that the next time I am overseas for several months? Don't you guys want to get paid? "You must come into the store sir and show your ID". How quaint! He entered the new CC info. Fixed.

Or not. A week later I flew to NCR for a spell. The next day I started getting emails and txt msgs from a debt-collection agent in Phils, for my recent unpaid Globe bill. [B]"We will not hesitate to take you in the Court"[/B]. Waltzed into Glorietta to the Globe store. Explained the sitch. The guy took 30 minutes to fix-my-sitch. "Its fixed now sir. It will bill automatically to your new CC. Its the app sir. Its not good at this time. Problemas". Thanks guy. Two days later, [B]"We will not hesitate to take you in the Court"[/B]. This lasted less than a week and I went back to the same guy. This time 40 minutes. "Fixed now sir". Wasn't it fixed before? "No sir". I was shocked to hear that. Finally the delinquency notices stopped.

Or not. A few months later they started again. Walked into the province Globe store to inquire. "Ignore those. It will stop". And it did.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2979947][URL]https://www.ding.com/[/URL]

Try Ding dot com. Using your CC, you can load in many countries, including your Globe SIM. Its easy. The downside is the fee. They charge about a 50% fee. You want to load the SIM with p500, and they charge your card p700 or so. Get in there and root around (good advice for all mongers). Report back any success. I used it for years prior to G-Cash.[/QUOTE]I have no idea why but I threw out the Globe SIM from my last trip ie the one that is less than 12 months old. I did find another one from Smart but it seems to expire as a can't top it up from the Smart App or anything else. So it looks like I don't have a working SIM to work from. I'll probably have to man up and just buy one in arrival and make sure I keep this one.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2979956]I have no idea why but I threw out the Globe SIM from my last trip ie the one that is less than 12 months old. I did find another one from Smart but it seems to expire as a can't top it up from the Smart App or anything else. So it looks like I don't have a working SIM to work from. I'll probably have to man up and just buy one in arrival and make sure I keep this one.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]You can buy a Globe 5 G SIM almost anywhere, and register it yourself at:

[URL]https://new.globe.com.ph/simreg[/URL]

If I can do it, anyone can? Steps:

[I]Access the SIM registration website.

Enter your 10-digit mobile number (ex. 9171234567) and click the Register button.

If eligible to register, youll receive a One Time Pin (OTP) text message on your mobile phone.

Enter the 6-digit OTP on the registration website. Note that the OTP expires in five minutes.

After your OTP is validated, you may now proceed with the registration.

Enter all required fields: Name, Birthday, Gender, Address, and Nationality

Take a selfie and select the type of government ID to be uploaded. Click the attach button to upload a copy of your valid government ID.

Tick the checkbox to agree with Globe's Privacy Notice and Attestation of Completeness and Accuracy.

Click "Submit" button to finish the registration process.

A reference number will appear on your screen to signify completion of registration. Please keep the reference number as proof of registration.[/I]

The following are the official IDs that will be accepted in registering SIMs:

Passport.

SSS ID.

Driver's License.

NBI Clearance.

PRC ID.

IBP ID.

OWWA ID.

BIR ID.

Senior Citizen ID.

UMID Card.

Philhealth ID.

Philippine Identification (National ID).

Voter's ID.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2979917]Fair report guy.

PSA: Another PAL flash sale. See pics for details. Booking timeframe is short, Feb 2-3, about one day. Which means their system will be inundated at the time (be prepared for app and browser failures / slowdowns in your reservation attempts).

Travel dates are Feb 10 - March 31.

10-20% savings.[/QUOTE]I don't even include PAL in my searches anymore, because they are very expensive compared to AirAsia CebuPacific and the new one: VietJet.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2979997]You can buy a Globe 5 G SIM almost anywhere, and register it yourself at:

[URL]https://new.globe.com.ph/simreg[/URL]

If I can do it, anyone can? Steps:

[I]Access the SIM registration website.

Enter your 10-digit mobile number (ex. 9171234567) and click the Register button.

If eligible to register, youll receive a One Time Pin (OTP) text message on your mobile phone.

Enter the 6-digit OTP on the registration website. Note that the OTP expires in five minutes.

After your OTP is validated, you may now proceed with the registration.

Enter all required fields: Name, Birthday, Gender, Address, and Nationality

Take a selfie and select the type of government ID to be uploaded. Click the attach button to upload a copy of your valid government ID.

Tick the checkbox to agree with Globe's Privacy Notice and Attestation of Completeness and Accuracy.

Click "Submit" button to finish the registration process.

A reference number will appear on your screen to signify completion of registration. Please keep the reference number as proof of registration.[/I]

The following are the official IDs that will be accepted in registering SIMs:

Passport.

SSS ID.

Driver's License.

NBI Clearance.

PRC ID.

IBP ID.

OWWA ID.

BIR ID.

Senior Citizen ID.

UMID Card.

Philhealth ID.

Philippine Identification (National ID).

Voter's ID.[/QUOTE]I can't never do it from outside the PH in the GlobeOne app, because they send you the OTP, and I cannot receive it if I'm not in the PH. I have Globe postpaid, and also Gcash, and I always pay the bill from the Gcash app, it is the only way it works for me when not in the country.

And yes I have the same problem, the CC payment doesn't work for me also.

Basically I came to the conclusion that all the 3rd world official apps were written by somebody's nephew, because it only works and looks good if everything is perfectly in line with what they had in mind when they wrote the app, any detour from a normal transaction, will result in catastrophic failure, just like ordering a big mac without the onion at McD.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2979997]You can buy a Globe 5 G SIM almost anywhere, and register it yourself at:

[/QUOTE]Agreed. However my aim was to arrive with working load. Ie top up from home. Since I don't have a working SIM now that has now expanded to get a SIM and load from home. Like others getting the telco's apps to work, with a foreign card, from home has been no joy at all.

Not ideal but I'll just get one from the Globe desk at arrival. I need data at the airport so buying in town, while cheaper and easier, is of no help to me.

Cheers.

Hello Friends! Asking this question while the topic maybe fresh in people's minds -.

Asia experts: How does Philippines scene look around Christmas and NYE? Is it fair to assume that being on the religious side. Most girls would take vacation around this time to be with Family and Friends and it would be slim pickings this time of the year? How does it compare to the rest of Asia (say Thailand / Japan / Vietnam) over the same time period?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2980037]Agreed. However my aim was to arrive with working load. Ie top up from home. Since I don't have a working SIM now that has now expanded to get a SIM and load from home. Like others getting the telco's apps to work, with a foreign card, from home has been no joy at all.

Not ideal but I'll just get one from the Globe desk at arrival. I need data at the airport so buying in town, while cheaper and easier, is of no help to me.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I bought a phone in the Philippines a couple of years ago. It was mid-range, at about 6. 5 k. Bought a globe sim, and it worked great. I just did the pre-paid load, as it is good enough and I have wifi most places I stay.

My problem was that it would not load or work when I came back to the US. My gcash, Lazada, Globe One app would all stop working because I needed a OTP, and I could t receive it.

That phone was dual sim, and I thought I would get a pre-paid sim and use it here, but, even though the IMEI number check said it would be compatible with the network, it wouldn't work. Come to find out, the phone was not compatible with the US cellular bands.

I wanted a working phone as well when I came went back to the Philippines. So, what I did is buy a cheap used iPhone SE 3rd generation for about $150. It has space for a physical sim and is also eSIM compatible. I loaded it and it worked fine. I get OTP texts just fine now in the US for my Philippines needs, and even weather alerts, etc.

If you get a compatible phone with eSIM, just download the Globe One app. You can load it from gcash, register it, and good to go. Gcash makes things convenient. For whatever reason, if I have load balance for Globe, it won't let me convert load balance to buy a promo. It's stupid hehehe.

Hey guys,

I've been wondering, do you use your real photos when hunting for freelancers in Tinder, Pinalove etc?

Or do you use some fake photos and try to stay discreet?

I'm asking because my trip is in a few days and I'm not sure what to do about this.

Thanks.

Different topic. Exchange rates. Sent myself a remittance, from my home country bank to GC. From the pics you can see that there was no fee, and that the remittance service gave me p56.02 for each dollar they took from my bank account. The exchange rate at the time was p58.7 per 1 USD. Thus representing an approximate loss to me of 58.7 - 56.02 = 2. 68 pesos per dollar on the exchange.

Other remittance organizations offer a higher exchange rate (better for you), but they usually charge a fee of a few USD (worse for you).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2980127]Different topic. Exchange rates. Sent myself a remittance, from my home country bank to GC. From the pics you can see that there was no fee, and that the remittance service gave me p56.02 for each dollar they took from my bank account. The exchange rate at the time was p58.7 per 1 USD. Thus representing an approximate loss to me of 58.7 - 56.02 = 2. 68 pesos per dollar on the exchange.

Other remittance organizations offer a higher exchange rate (better for you), but they usually charge a fee of a few USD (worse for you).[/QUOTE]I use Sendwave to send to my gcash. It is usually about one peso less than the exchange rate. The cash in rate for most places to gcash (if you have cash) is at least 15 pesos per 1 k, or 1. 5 pesos per hundred, so not much difference.

[QUOTE=NoobMonger0;2980124]Hey guys,

I've been wondering, do you use your real photos when hunting for freelancers in Tinder, Pinalove etc?

Or do you use some fake photos and try to stay discreet?

I'm asking because my trip is in a few days and I'm not sure what to do about this.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Philippines and AC are small places. I like to keep things sperate and don't want my work colleagues knowing I'm on PL.

I successfully used [URL]https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/[/URL] and keep refreshing until I find someone like myself. Remove any watermarks.

I have a legit pic on whatsapp. They rarely remember the PL profile as they get so many messages. I just say I lost weight since I did that profile.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2980097]I bought a phone in the Philippines a couple of years ago. It was mid-range, at about 6. 5 k. Bought a globe sim, and it worked great. I just did the pre-paid load, as it is good enough and I have wifi most places I stay.

My problem was that it would not load or work when I came back to the US. My gcash, Lazada, Globe One app would all stop working because I needed a OTP, and I could t receive it.

That phone was dual sim, and I thought I would get a pre-paid sim and use it here, but, even though the IMEI number check said it would be compatible with the network, it wouldn't work. Come to find out, the phone was not compatible with the US cellular bands.

I wanted a working phone as well when I came went back to the Philippines. So, what I did is buy a cheap used iPhone SE 3rd generation for about $150. It has space for a physical sim and is also eSIM compatible. I loaded it and it worked fine. I get OTP texts just fine now in the US for my Philippines needs, and even weather alerts, etc.

If you get a compatible phone with eSIM, just download the Globe One app. You can load it from gcash, register it, and good to go. Gcash makes things convenient. For whatever reason, if I have load balance for Globe, it won't let me convert load balance to buy a promo. It's stupid hehehe.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yes I have a phone that works in all the (non US) countries that I visit whenever I install a local SIM. It's not that old but it doesn't accept a eSIM. Not sure why and it's not worth me changing phones over. Resetting all the new settings, apps etc to what I want would take longer than getting a SIM at the airport upon arrival. This time I'll actually keep it so that it can be topped up online. I might even do a test 50 p top up before leaving.

It would have been good to arrive ready to go but it's not a deal breaker.

Thanks again. G.

P.S. I often loose access to OTPs etc when swapping international networks. No idea why but if I still have wifi, then I will receive the SMS even if there is no roaming Telco data connection. Now I just make sure to do all that type of stuff in a hotel room with a good connection.

G.

[QUOTE=NoobMonger0;2980124]Hey guys,

I've been wondering, do you use your real photos when hunting for freelancers in Tinder, Pinalove etc?

Or do you use some fake photos and try to stay discreet?

I'm asking because my trip is in a few days and I'm not sure what to do about this.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]You need to include "a" photo or your profile will be prioritised last when shown to girls. Any girls that you do message will be unlikely to reply as no pic screams psycho or scammer.

Whether the photo is you or not depends on your security requirements. Do you care of family (wife? Sees you online. Some guys don't want any traceability at all. Remember that photos can be reversed searched so it's a good idea to use a clean photo that cannot be connected to your work, Facebook account etc.

Girls are getting more savvy now too. I've met plenty that would not chat with an unverified subscriber. This brings up it's own issues. How trusting are you to send these apps copies of your formal government ID to get the 'verified' tag?

As you can see it's a trade off. The most secure will see you get no / few matches or chats. Being Mr Popular entails sharing info that many guys are not happy to have broadcast everywhere.

Personally, I don't post actual pics on apps but I'm happy to live video chat with girls that I'm actually interested in.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=YoungSnape;2980053]Hello Friends! Asking this question while the topic maybe fresh in people's minds -.

Asia experts: How does Philippines scene look around Christmas and NYE? Is it fair to assume that being on the religious side. Most girls would take vacation around this time to be with Family and Friends and it would be slim pickings this time of the year? How does it compare to the rest of Asia (say Thailand / Japan / Vietnam) over the same time period?[/QUOTE]DESERTED. Absolutely no human activity can be detected.

FB reel from John Dang regarding the number of unoccupied condo units in Manila (70,000+), how long it will take you to grow a unit's market value, and outlying provinces to consider for the future.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/633792189114642[/URL]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2980666]FB reel from John Dang regarding the number of unoccupied condo units in Manila (70,000+), how long it will take you to grow a unit's market value, and outlying provinces to consider for the future.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/reel/633792189114642[/URL][/QUOTE]That is a shot in the dark. The Philippines is not a steady place and nor is the apartment market, too much of which depends on starry eyed and horny elderly expats. The Philippines is a tragedy and sinking serious money in it would make it our tragedy. Nice women outside of the hooker sperm buckets but a fool and his money.

What's up OG vets, anyone traveled to Philippines lately?

I am planning a trip this coming spring and I am UNVACCINATED.

Do I still need a PCR / Antigen negative test 24 hours prior to the trip? Or just do the etravel thing?

Looking to hear your experience. Is this still an entry requirements?

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2980854]What's up OG vets, anyone traveled to Philippines lately?

I am planning a trip this coming spring and I am UNVACCINATED.

Do I still need a PCR / Antigen negative test 24 hours prior to the trip? Or just do the etravel thing?

Looking to hear your experience. Is this still an entry requirements?[/QUOTE]No need for any test and vaccine.

Just go online and get a eVisa for 30 days and you can extend this for another 29 days.

But if you stay longer than 30 days you will need a throw away ticket as airline will want to see this.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2980854]What's up OG vets, anyone traveled to Philippines lately?

I am planning a trip this coming spring and I am UNVACCINATED.

Do I still need a PCR / Antigen negative test 24 hours prior to the trip? Or just do the etravel thing?

Looking to hear your experience. Is this still an entry requirements?[/QUOTE]They do not ask vaccination status on eTravel, and that is the only entry paperwork to enter the country. For entry, I think you are fine if you are unvaccinated. Now, most places do not ask for a vaccination card anymore, but it's the Philippines, and places can do almost whatever they want. I haven't been asked for my card in over a year. Some places, such as hospitals and doctors offices, do still as you to wear a mask, however.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2980854]What's up OG vets, anyone traveled to Philippines lately?

I am planning a trip this coming spring and I am UNVACCINATED.

Do I still need a PCR / Antigen negative test 24 hours prior to the trip? Or just do the etravel thing?

Looking to hear your experience. Is this still an entry requirements?[/QUOTE][URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions[/URL]

My experience is I needed an evisa. For Covid etc requirements, check he above authoritative site, amongst others.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2980716]That is a shot in the dark. The Philippines is not a steady place and nor is the apartment market, too much of which depends on starry eyed and horny elderly expats. The Philippines is a tragedy and sinking serious money in it would make it our tragedy. Nice women outside of the hooker sperm buckets but a fool and his money.[/QUOTE]You don't beat around the Bush. LOL!

If I were to live in Metro Manila, your recommendation is Rent the Condo.
Never purchase. Correct?

Thanks,
~BKK

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2980906]You don't beat around the Bush. LOL!

If I were to live in Metro Manila, your recommendation is Rent the Condo.
Never purchase. Correct?[/QUOTE]It comes down to personal preferences but, to me, the Philippines is an inherently economically unstable country. The SE Asian expat market is a bubble and, unless one stays in one's lane, it is hard to blend in; one is a target or oddity of one sort or another.

In my recent visit, I noticed rents go up 10% or so a year, irrespective of how the overall market is doing. That, to me, is a bubble, as it makes no economic sense.

When one buys a place, one rents it or lives in it (rents to oneself). I don't like to be a landlord in the Philippines and I don't like to be like one of those Japanese soldiers stuck there after the War.

That said, there are plenty of Europeans claiming they are doing well in Angeles. But sitting around a bad or cafe all day every day with nothing but my jocks on doesn't really hit the sweet spot for me.

The three rules of property are location, location, location, with a bad location in a good location being better than a good location in a bad location. I guess if I had to go for anywhere in the Philippines, it would be a surf type place (Bali is better). Though some like university towns, I would not like to be renting bedspaces to impoverished students.

I have a lady friend there who would like to have a sari sari store in the Visayas. A nice lady but, with hold ups, assholes and 10% rent increases, I don't want to make it my Vietnam.

I get it that the Philippines is cheap. But you can buy houses in Detroit for a $1, which is a good deal if you are ex Korean Special Forces.

As regards buying a Condo in Manila, I would opt for settled, upper class (over priced) areas and be prepared to take a major hit on it.

These are just my ideas, as I freeze here and the lure of Pinay muff whispers sell up and move to Borocay in my ear.

EDIT: You can check out relevant indices here but, as all property is local (Chicago ain't Detroit or LA) I am unsure how helpful they are in an odd ball market like SEAsia https://www.google.com/search?q=philippines+proiperty+index&rlz=1C1GCEA_enIE1106IE1106&oq=philippines+proiperty+index&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIICAEQABgWGB4yCggCEAAYCBgNGB4yCggDEAAYCBgNGB4yDQgEEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgFEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyDQgGEAAYhgMYgAQYigUyCggHEAAYgAQYogQyCggIEAAYgAQYogQyCggJEAAYgAQYogTSAQg1Mjc5ajBqNKgCALACAQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2978804]Come to think of it, I don't think I've eTravel-ed or eGov'd on the outbound since 2022. Anyone else?[/QUOTE]Well there is this sign when leaving out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2980943]Well there is this sign when leaving out.[/QUOTE]Its for outbound pinoy (possibly especially for OFW going to work).

[QUOTE=Jarango;2980885][URL]https://apply.joinsherpa.com/travel-restrictions[/URL]

My experience is I needed an evisa. For Covid etc requirements, check he above authoritative site, amongst others.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2980884]They do not ask vaccination status on eTravel, and that is the only entry paperwork to enter the country. For entry, I think you are fine if you are unvaccinated. Now, most places do not ask for a vaccination card anymore, but it's the Philippines, and places can do almost whatever they want. I haven't been asked for my card in over a year. Some places, such as hospitals and doctors offices, do still as you to wear a mask, however.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyPlayer;2980856]No need for any test and vaccine.

Just go online and get a eVisa for 30 days and you can extend this for another 29 days.

But if you stay longer than 30 days you will need a throw away ticket as airline will want to see this.[/QUOTE]Appreciate for all the feedback, I forgot to mention I am a US citizen and will be visiting my family for a few days and won't have time to monger in Manila but, I'll be flying from there to Bangkok to do all my mongering LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2980943]Well there is this sign when leaving out.[/QUOTE]That is for all Filipinos leaving the Philippines for international travel.

Foreigners don't need to file.

Guys phils is one of the easiest countries in SEA to get into. Just fill in a simple online form, no visa (for me), tick a couple of boxes, get a qr code and waltz through immigration.

You can download the app or just do it online which I do.

[QUOTE=Jingo10;2981163]Guys phils is one of the easiest countries in SEA to get into. Just fill in a simple online form, no visa (for me), tick a couple of boxes, get a qr code and waltz through immigration. You can download the app or just do it online which I do.[/QUOTE]Egov. Ph is the portal app but it is easier to go to [URL]https://etravel.gov.ph/[/URL] on a laptop or smartphone.
Save your reference number (+date of birth), take a QR-screenshot, save the QR-code in Safari, or even print it on paper for immigration.
Be aware that the eTravel system sometimes crashes and has to be handled manually, causing delays at immigration counters.

As the price of air travel is not getting any cheaper, I have been busy on skyscanner, kayak etc looking for bargains flying from Europe to Luzon. Although the Chinese airlines seem to be much cheaper than the Gulf States ones (Saudi seems to be an avoid at all costs airline), I have been looking for cheaper alternatives, like going through KL or Singapore with maybe a stop over for old times sake.

Any idea what is the cheapest way to do it from a small European airport via a European hub and then onwards? Last time, I stayed overnight in Heathrow airport and it near killed me. I marvel at Americans who can flit across the States and then the Pacific like it is nothing. To me, it is a lot in time, in money and in wear and tear.

I can't say I like the Philippines but compared to the Stalingrad that is Western Europe, it has its attractions, not the least of whom are the 1 k-2 k panties droppers.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2981907]As the price of air travel is not getting any cheaper, I have been busy on skyscanner, kayak etc looking for bargains flying from Europe to Luzon. Although the Chinese airlines seem to be much cheaper than the Gulf States ones (Saudi seems to be an avoid at all costs airline), I have been looking for cheaper alternatives, like going through KL or Singapore with maybe a stop over for old times sake.

Any idea what is the cheapest way to do it from a small European airport via a European hub and then onwards? Last time, I stayed overnight in Heathrow airport and it near killed me. I marvel at Americans who can flit across the States and then the Pacific like it is nothing. To me, it is a lot in time, in money and in wear and tear.

I can't say I like the Philippines but compared to the Stalingrad that is Western Europe, it has its attractions, not the least of whom are the 1 k-2 k panties droppers.[/QUOTE]Do you have fixed dates or are you flexible? I'm not European but here there are major savings by getting a general idea of the cheapest airlines and travel periods through Scanner, Google Flights etc then sign up with notifications to those airlines' websites. They often have alerts for discount fares between your nominated airports. However, you need to be able to act quickly. Heavily discounted flights can be only a few seats and sell out very quickly, often a day or two.

I only ever deal direct with the airlines. Never travel agents, consolidators etc. they reserve the cheapest deals for direct sale and should any problems arise, then there aren't 27 middlemen

Good luck. G.

PS. It's often cheaper to book between the capitals and domestic connections separately ie to MNL plus MNL DVO is cheaper than one ticket to DVO

[QUOTE=Goferring;2981911]Do you have fixed dates or are you flexible? I'm not European but here there are major savings by getting a general idea of the cheapest airlines and travel periods through Scanner, Google Flights etc then sign up with notifications to those airlines' websites. They often have alerts for discount fares between your nominated airports. However, you need to be able to act quickly. Heavily discounted flights can be only a few seats and sell out very quickly, often a day or two.

I only ever deal direct with the airlines. Never travel agents, consolidators etc. they reserve the cheapest deals for direct sale and should any problems arise, then there aren't 27 middlemen

Good luck. G.

PS. It's often cheaper to book between the capitals and domestic connections separately ie to MNL plus MNL DVO is cheaper than one ticket to DVO[/QUOTE]I am totally flexible. I know most of what you say but am leaving it there for others. I always book through airlines.

Scoot to Singapore form either Vienna or Athens seems a good deal, and then a cheap onward Asian fare from Singapore. KL seems another hub worth travelling through. Last time. I "saved" maybe $400 or more for slumming it for a day or so in airports but it does take it out of you. There is also the principle of paying over the odds, something the cheap Charlies here should know well.

If you book domestic airfare via airasia, is cheaper, not by much, but it is, than the respective airline's price. So I book CP on airasia's app.

PSA. Vid from Filipina Pea, regarding various laws in Phils. She interviews a pinoy lawyer who debunks the concept that vendors and hospitals can take and withhold your passport. Back in the 2000's when I first came here, hotels routinely took my PP at check-in, giving it back when I paid up and checked out. Around 2012-14-ish, that stopped. According to the lawyer, your PP can only be confiscated from you only by LE or Immigration for investigative purposes (3:40 in the vid).

And other odd legal Phils info.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T51ivyjS6U[/URL]

I guess maybe it depends on country origin?

As far as I know, the blue passport I carry does not belong to me, so it is not something I can lend out.

I understand it can be taken from me, but don't think I am free to lend it out.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2983970] Back in the 2000's when I first came here, hotels routinely took my PP at check-in, giving it back when I paid up and checked out.[/QUOTE]I can imagine that was the case Westie.

Back around the same time, I was checking into Russian hotels and it was like checking yourself into prison.

(You had to take multiple photocopies of your PP for when the dodgy police stopped on the street you asking for your PP / ID).

That said, the blonde 'room service' in Moscow was amazing.

Never had an issue in The Phils and most hotels accept my local driver's license as ID.

Always good to keep an eye on the local laws though.

_ Phil.

The other week coming in to terminal 3 the money exchanger's rate was USD1. 00 - 57.90 pesos. The official prime rate was 58.11.

Which no one gets the prime exchange rate. I have found the Terminal 3 rates to be very good. At times better than street money exchangers. The only downside side is having to show your passport, if that is a concern.

Manila international airport (NAIA), Terminal 1 -- The yellow and white taxis are now across the two frontage lanes, then down a steep, pedestrian ramp to the right. But they will still rip you off, just like everything else in the country. I was charged 700 for a 450 ₱ trip to Makati in a yellow, metered taxi; my friend, 2 weeks earlier, had been charged 1500 peso in an unmarked car.

My driver switched the meter off (it was on initially to con me), and also kept the customer copy of the receipt, so I could not complain. Use the Grab app if you can but that is problematic for newbies with the patchy wi-fi and general tiredness. Best avoid the place like The Beatles did after getting battered in 1966!

Philippine sim card top-ups are either short-changed or disappear completely the next day. That is why I am leaving very early and heading to civilisation in Thailand. Days of head-banging grief in The Philippines just to get a local phone number. In Thailand it takes 5 minutes in a 7/11. You have been warned! As for the women: a can't is a can't.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2985688]Manila international airport (NAIA), Terminal 1 -- The yellow and white taxis are now across the two frontage lanes, then down a steep, pedestrian ramp to the right. But they will still rip you off, just like everything else in the country. I was charged 700 for a 450 ₱ trip to Makati in a yellow, metered taxi; my friend, 2 weeks earlier, had been charged 1500 peso in an unmarked car.[/QUOTE]Mfs tried to get me for 1500 to go to Ermita. Then some guy came along and said 900. I had already called Grab for 431 before leaving out of the door and the first person asking. I just wanted to see how much they said. I have T-mobile from the States which has free roaming in almost every country, so I have no problem getting a grab from the airport.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2985688]Philippine sim card top-ups are either short-changed or disappear completely the next day. That is why I am leaving very early and heading to civilisation in Thailand. Days of head-banging grief in The Philippines just to get a local phone number. In Thailand it takes 5 minutes in a 7/11. You have been warned![/QUOTE]I have never had a problem with a load disappearing. The people in the airport want too much for the SIM and data though. 1500 pesos minimum for Globe was a pure ripoff. I went to a phone shop for my SIM. The guy said they pay 59 pesos for them and sell them for 80.1 month of the fastest data is 980,1 week 580, and 3 days 300. You can also top up at 7 11. You go to the machine to decide which plan you want. It prints out a paper, then you go to the cashier to pay. The cheapest plan was I think 75 pesos.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2985688]Manila international airport (NAIA), Terminal 1 -- The yellow and white taxis are now across the two frontage lanes, then down a steep, pedestrian ramp to the right. But they will still rip you off, just like everything else in the country. I was charged 700 for a 450 ₱ trip to Makati in a yellow, metered taxi; my friend, 2 weeks earlier, had been charged 1500 peso in an unmarked car.

My driver switched the meter off (it was on initially to con me), and also kept the customer copy of the receipt, so I could not complain. Use the Grab app if you can but that is problematic for newbies with the patchy wi-fi and general tiredness. Best avoid the place like The Beatles did after getting battered in 1966!

Philippine sim card top-ups are either short-changed or disappear completely the next day. That is why I am leaving very early and heading to civilisation in Thailand. Days of head-banging grief in The Philippines just to get a local phone number. In Thailand it takes 5 minutes in a 7/11. You have been warned! As for the women: a can't is a can't.[/QUOTE]No need for the Grab app while you're at the airport. Each terminal has a Grab kiosk you can use to book your Grab ride. I use the Grab app all the time when I am in Manila, but I never have booked a ride on the app at the airport; the drivers give preference to the Kiosk. It is much cheaper than the taxis. I got scammed 1. 5 k one time from Terminal 1 to Newport City. Never again.

As far as the SIM card issue, it is better to download the Globe One app prior to entering the country. You can get a local number on eSIM and avail a promo before you even arrive. Or, if you're there for a short time, just use your phone plans roaming feature.

Sure, friendly scammers are waiting for you. Just know what the scams are (taxis) and avoid them. Grab or Joyride (if you're fine using a motorcycle) is the way to go.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2985750]Mfs tried to get me for 1500 to go to Ermita. Then some guy came along and said 900. I had already called Grab for 431 before leaving out of the door and the first person asking. I just wanted to see how much they said. I have T-mobile from the States which has free roaming in almost every country, so I have no problem getting a grab from the airport.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Any country's phone number can be used for Grab, apparently, not just a local one. I have 2 x UK SIMs which claim to roam internationally but they are patchy. One worked in Colombia but the other worked in Philippines.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2985750]I have never had a problem with a load disappearing. The people in the airport want too much for the SIM and data though. 1500 pesos minimum for Globe was a pure ripoff. I went to a phone shop for my SIM. The guy said they pay 59 pesos for them and sell them for 80.1 month of the fastest data is 980,1 week 580, and 3 days 300. You can also top up at 7 11. You go to the machine to decide which plan you want. It prints out a paper, then you go to the cashier to pay. The cheapest plan was I think 75 pesos.[/QUOTE]
The Philippine cellular top-up system is crazy-complicated in terms of calls / data / validity. The longest one can buy is only 30 days; in normal countries load does not expire so rapidly. Plus, there is now organised larceny by the cellular providers. I lost P350 loaded at Globe's main office in Makati and my friend lost P200 of a P449 top-up (Smart network) at 7/11. In both cases the loads were acknowledged but then got cut.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2985769]No need for the Grab app while you're at the airport. Each terminal has a Grab kiosk you can use to book your Grab ride. I use the Grab app all the time when I am in Manila, but I never have booked a ride on the app at the airport; the drivers give preference to the Kiosk. It is much cheaper than the taxis. I got scammed 1. 5 k one time from Terminal 1 to Newport City. Never again.[/QUOTE]Thanks. If Grab has a kiosk where tired travellers can book without a phone or Internet, that's a great facility which no one on YouTube has mentioned. It is hard to believe the authorities have not clamped down on the P1,500 scammers by now.
[QUOTE=Aml3740;2985769]s far as the SIM card issue, it is better to download the Globe One app prior to entering the country. You can get a local number on eSIM and avail a promo before you even arrive. Or, if you're there for a short time, just use your phone plans roaming feature.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I originally thought eSIMs were data only but maybe numbers are coming online now. How long do they give you to register your number and documents with the government? It is normally 30 days for a physical SIM. Is there a similar eSIM service prior to arriving in Thailand?

I thought it really oppressive having to upload selfie, passport, proof of address and ticket out just for a local phone number! Even then, they never approved the application via text and I had to go into Glorietta Globe store in Makati to find out the status. They said it was working, then regaled me with dozens of Machiavellian promotions, packages, durations and countries. I settled on P350 for unlimited calls/texts & 3GB data, valid for 30 days. Paid cash into the machine, confirmed the load, but the balance was P1 back at my AirBnB, without any usage! How can anyone monger or do business in a country where they spend half their time in phone shops sorting out this crap?

There is clearly now institutionalised theft by Globe and Smart of customer's loads, shortly after paying, loading and displaying the new balance. Also happened to a friend using Smart. There is a reason why tourist arrivals to Thailand outnumber those to the Philippines by over 5:1 ! Philippine cheating and incompetence levels meant I cut this trip short to go to Thailand, where one can buy and top-up a SIM in any 7/11 within 5 minutes and the SIM does not have to be registered for 6 months. At Bangkok airport I just go up to the departures level and take a metered taxi dropping passengers off; we are both happy!

https://seasia.co/infographic/international-tourists-arrivals-in-southeast-asia-2023

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2984552]The other week coming in to terminal 3 the money exchanger's rate was USD1. 00 - 57.90 pesos. The official prime rate was 58.11. Which no one gets the prime exchange rate. I have found the Terminal 3 rates to be very good. At times better than street money exchangers. The only downside side is having to show your passport, if that is a concern.[/QUOTE]ATMs should beat money changers who have to deal with physical cash -- but the rates can be quite close with the best MCs. Airport ATMs, like most in town, only dispense P10,000. HSBC in Ayala Avenue, Makati, dispenses P40,000, which is useful if you are paying the local skin tax of P250 per transaction.

Addendum: given the taxi and phone hassles outlined in the posts below -- plus high P4P prices and the Korean influx -- is the Philippines still a worthwhile destination for our hobby?

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2985868]ATMs should beat money changers who have to deal with physical cash -- but the rates can be quite close with the best MCs. Airport ATMs, like most in town, only dispense P10,000. HSBC in Ayala Avenue, Makati, dispenses P40,000, which is useful if you are paying the local skin tax of P250 per transaction.

Addendum: given the taxi and phone hassles outlined in the posts below -- plus high P4P prices and the Korean influx -- is the Philippines still a worthwhile destination for our hobby?[/QUOTE]I am talking about money changers. ATM and money transfer companies are a different matter along with debit cards and not a comparison.

Addendum: if any of those are concerns then best to stay away from PH.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2985868]

Addendum: given the taxi and phone hassles outlined in the posts below -- plus high P4P prices and the Korean influx -- is the Philippines still a worthwhile destination for our hobby?[/QUOTE]The pitfall of PI are over hyped. Sure somethings are blindingly frustrating but the same can be said of other countries too. Especially for a for a first time visitor.

I don't see PI as expensive when comparing like for like in other areas of Asia. PI, LOS and Indo all have $20 online or street options thru to $200 gogo nights. It's a mistake that many are making to compare $20 girls in one area to $200 in another.

There has always been someone else to blame. 30 years ago it was the Japanese. Then the Chinese. Now it's the Koreans. Soon it will be the Indians. The truth is that while some are complaining, others are still having a great time. For the two extremes have a read of my provincial exploits or Sir Lancelot's redlight reports. We both had a great time in very different ways.

Go have a good time. If you don't like it, that's fine but don't fall for all the hype and rule it out before seeing for yourself.

Enjoy.G

[QUOTE=Goferring;2985910]If you don't like it, that's fine but don't fall for all the hype and rule it out before seeing for yourself.[/QUOTE]Wise words. However I am still not going to get far online without a local SIM card that the operator doesn't steal the paid load from. I did ask the American resident, who invited me, to obtain an extra SIM card in advance -- but he refused. I asked for his Wise account name to 'Buy him a coffee' -- again he refused.

The PI does seem to attract the type of people who can tolerate its 'Third World' character, exonerate its inefficiencies and duck physical requests for assistance. I was here in PI for 3 months in 1988, when life was simpler and calmer: without cellphones or Internet. Sad to see what effects they have had on formerly-pristine Boracay island, and even GI-ruled Angeles.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2985910]The pitfall of PI are over hyped. Sure somethings are blindingly frustrating but the same can be said of other countries too. Especially for a for a first time visitor.

I don't see PI as expensive when comparing like for like in other areas of Asia. PI, LOS and Indo all have $20 online or street options thru to $200 gogo nights. It's a mistake that many are making to compare $20 girls in one area to $200 in another.

There has always been someone else to blame. 30 years ago it was the Japanese. Then the Chinese. Now it's the Koreans. Soon it will be the Indians. The truth is that while some are complaining, others are still having a great time. For the two extremes have a read of my provincial exploits or Sir Lancelot's redlight reports. We both had a great time in very different ways.[/QUOTE]Sir Lancelot got what he wanted. He beezed about, shot some pool abnd speared lots of young women, which he admits is the reason he went there. As he worked within a 10 day time frame, stayed beside Walking Stand stayed sober, his visit was a success for him. He did not find the love of his life but he was not looking for that. (There is always Broken Britain, as he says).

All that said, there are lots of downsides, as walking St is a dive uilt on aslum. The food is problematic (as in geting sick), petty crime, noisy bikes, weather, a long way to travel and so on.

But, in Sir Lancelot's case, he got what he wanted and, if it is within his budget and so on, then success.

One of the most obriong things in life is loking at people's holiday pics. There was a time when overseas travel was exotic. That ship long ago sailed.

Pussy in Angeles is no different from McDonalds or Jolibee, the difference being that, as Sir lancelot affirmed, it is much cheaper and more pleasant. Jolibee with a smile andan ice pair of boobs.

Edit: I am more price conscious that Sir Lancelot. However, given the amount of bonks and their quality he had, he came out leagues ahead if bonking is ourt unit of currency. I am at home now and have a chance of a €100 bonk, which is very cheap here but which would be considered very low quality in Angeles. As my carnal needs have subsided, I am best putting that €100 to the price of returning to Angeles or some similar place. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2985910]The pitfall of PI are over hyped. Sure somethings are blindingly frustrating but the same can be said of other countries too. Especially for a for a first time visitor.

I don't see PI as expensive when comparing like for like in other areas of Asia. PI, LOS and Indo all have $20 online or street options thru to $200 gogo nights. It's a mistake that many are making to compare $20 girls in one area to $200 in another.

There has always been someone else to blame. 30 years ago it was the Japanese. Then the Chinese. Now it's the Koreans. Soon it will be the Indians. The truth is that while some are complaining, others are still having a great time. For the two extremes have a read of my provincial exploits or Sir Lancelot's redlight reports. We both had a great time in very different ways.

Go have a good time. If you don't like it, that's fine but don't fall for all the hype and rule it out before seeing for yourself.

Enjoy.G[/QUOTE]I agree with G. I think almost anyone can have a good time here if you are open minded and know what you want. Honestly, if I am going to the Philippines for a month or less, I am not worrying about a SIM card. I'm just roaming and using my US number. It is an extra $50-$100, and isn't worth the hassle otherwise. And, for taxis, you live and learn.

If you are maarte and want a city with your 4-5 star hotels and women to match, your options are maybe limited to Makati and Burgos. Lower the bar for where you stay and the city a little bit, and maybe that's Angeles. And so on and so forth. As for me, I love the province. I didn't do a pussy your like G, mostly because I already have two ladies and don't need that. But I've experienced things that most on this board never have, and probably never will. And, for me, that is part of the draw. I'm at home on a jeepney or tricycle, and I'm at home on a motorcycle going up a rocky mountain road. I love rice and and I'm not picky about ulam (and I can cook most Filipino food, too).

It's all about what you're looking for and what you can and will tolerate. Jarango has a post in the "Living in the Philippines" thread. There are a lot of drawbacks. My biggest pet peeve is how long it takes for everything. For most things, you have to just show up and wait. No matter what it is. It's annoying. But, if that's really the worst I have to deal with (and it doesn't happen that often), it's not really that bad, and good days far outweigh the bad ones!

Well it's that time again, when I'll be doing another frequent Business / Pleasure trip to the Phils in few days.

(I hope to add a few reports along the way).

Yes, I'm a Cheap Charlie, but most of us are, who either make multiple visits a year or live in The Phils.

I'm on a fairly tight schedule with work over the next few weeks and will be in and out of Manila quite a few times.

Good news is, today I've lined up all my Manila contacts in advance, so there's no need to go on the hunt.

For the newer guys, and I may have said this numerous times before, to keep in touch with your previous encounters works wonders.

You can avoid the barfines and expensive lady drinks by setting your own terms, as opposed to the bar rules they adhere to, and you can reward them personally for a job well done.

Sure, the vast majority will be at you for cash all the time once you're gone, but it's best just to ignore them.

They'll be back for some action in the future, and as soon as you say you'll be back in The Phills soon, it's like flies surrounding freshly laid shit.

Just my experience and I'm now fully booked for Manila.

If only this phone would stop pinging with "I love you messages".

Enjoy the game _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2986004]Good news is, today I've lined up all my Manila contacts in advance, so there's no need to go on the hunt.
Enjoy the game _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Never known any game to follow the plan in the PI, but wish you luck.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2985914]Wise words. However I am still not going to get far online without a local SIM card that the operator doesn't steal the paid load from. I did ask the American resident, who invited me, to obtain an extra SIM card in advance -- but he refused. I asked for his Wise account name to 'Buy him a coffee' -- again he refused.

The PI does seem to attract the type of people who can tolerate its 'Third World' character, exonerate its inefficiencies and duck physical requests for assistance. I was here in PI for 3 months in 1988, when life was simpler and calmer: without cellphones or Internet. Sad to see what effects they have had on formerly-pristine Boracay island, and even GI-ruled Angeles.[/QUOTE]You make a good and valid point. If signing up for a SIM card is too difficult or frustrating then PI may not be the best destination for you to enjoy. I don't mean that in a derogatory or insulting way. Many people prioritise order and predictability and the PI has neither.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2986106]Many people prioritise order and predictability and the PI has neither.[/QUOTE]It certainly works out when one is able to use the disorder and unpredictability to their advantage in certain situations.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2986106]You make a good and valid point. If signing up for a SIM card is too difficult or frustrating then PI may not be the best destination for you to enjoy. I don't mean that in a derogatory or insulting way. Many people prioritise order and predictability and the PI has neither. Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]Fair comment. It can be the Madagascar of SEA in terms of third-world frustration, despite the English-language veneer of modernity. Those unlimited-call SIM packages do not include landlines or international, only cellular; businesses normally use mobile numbers to accommodate. Moderate data load is important for Grab taxis, apps, or even locating a store in a warren-like mall without signage, information desk or staff to ask. Try chain-restaurant Zark's excellent beef burger patties (P95): e.g. 3F of Glorietta 4 mall, Makati.

Which meet-up sites and locations in Manila do you find best for your '$20+ online or street options'?

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2986151]Fair comment. It can be the Madagascar of SEA in terms of third-world frustration, despite the English-language veneer of modernity. Those unlimited-call SIM packages do not include landlines or international, only cellular; businesses normally use mobile numbers to accommodate. Moderate data load is important for Grab taxis, apps, or even locating a store in a warren-like mall without signage, information desk or staff to ask. Try chain-restaurant Zark's excellent beef burger patties (P95): e.g. 3F of Glorietta 4 mall, Makati.

Which meet-up sites and locations in Manila do you find best for your '$20+ online or street options'?[/QUOTE]I'm struggling to remember making a regular phone call on my last visit. All of my voice or video calls were data or app based eg WhatsApp or in app on Grab etc. I doubt I sent more than a handful of sms's.

I've got a pretty extensive contact list that I fall back on but online I'm pretty much exclusive to PinaLove though I am starting to test Facebook too. WRT locations, I don't go searching for streetwalkers but will meet girls at a 7/11, JollieBee or similar if she doesn't come straight to my room. I will admit that $20 in Manila propper isn't going to be a stunner. Away from the foreigner ghettos it's very doable.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2986169]WRT locations, I don't go searching for streetwalkers but will meet girls at a 7/11, JollieBee or similar if she doesn't come straight to my room. I will admit that $20 in Manila propper isn't going to be a stunner. Away from the foreigner ghettos it's very doable.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks G,

A man with my own strategy.

G makes a good point about having a contact list.

I arrive again tomorrow and I've already basically got everything lined up in advance and it avoids the hunt.

Sure, a few have dropped out, but there's always been a replacement to take their place.

Any girl I hook up with, I grab their details and place on my list because you never know when you might require their services in the future.

(This is generally always via WhatsApp in my case).

A handy fall back plan to have.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2986151]Those unlimited-call SIM packages do not include landlines or international, only cellular; businesses normally use mobile numbers to accommodate.[/QUOTE]Who is talking on the phone like that these days? It is 2025. You can send messages all day long on whatsapp. You can message pharmacies, doctors offices, and damn near anybody. If need be, you can even call people on whatsapp. These days you only really need the data. Most people I know will not even answer the phone unless you first message to ask if they are available to take a call. For me it is much easier to message and be able to respond at my leisure. I am never sitting by idle as to where I can take calls. It actually frustrates me when people call. Even my parents know to send a message on whatsapp.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2986151]even locating a store in a warren-like mall without signage, information desk or staff to ask. Try chain-restaurant Zark's excellent beef burger patties (P95): e.g. 3F of Glorietta 4 mall, Makati. Which meet-up sites and locations in Manila do you find best for your '$20+ online or street options'?[/QUOTE]You are supposed to ask the security people where the stores are. But I know what you mean. I was in Robinsons and they had only one of those screens to look the stores up. I was in H&M and the lady told me to check Uniqlo. I asked where is Uniqlo. She pointed out into the mall abyss and said that way. Took me about 15 minutes to find that shit. Would make sense if malls were still actual malls, but these days they have so many twists and turns that you end up walking in circles not being able to find what you are looking for.

Why do chicks always want to meet in malls? I tell them it is better to meet at a place outside. A mall full of people is too big to be trying to track down one person. Somewhere you can pull up to and walk in and immediately see the person makes more sense. I understand that in many third world countries being in a mall is their pastime. At home I shop online and have no need to go near a mall. They are phasing out in first world countries.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2986208]

Any girl I hook up with, I grab their details and place on my list because you never know when you might require their services in the future.

(This is generally always via WhatsApp in my case).

A handy fall back plan to have.

_Phil.[/QUOTE]This is where a little patience is of great assistance. A platonic coffee or Jollie burger on day 1 for a shy girl often results in her coming over to say thanks on day 2. This is a lot better than scaring her off by insisting to meet straight in your hotel room.

Of course, we also have the other extreme: girls who do not want to risk being seen with a foreigner in the wild so will suggest coming straight to the hotel.

It's not difficult to play both ends of the game.

G.

In Thailand, the rules are fairly well-defined in the pay-for-play market but, in The Philippines, one is dealing with a 65%-higher population (115 m vs. 70 m, in just 42% of the Thais' land): quite-poor women just seeking a meal-ticket / ATM in life. The ageless saying: "Men want a woman's first love; women want a man's last love" & Professor Dawkins' 'The Selfish Gene', highlight the disparity between male and female behavioural directives.

Although there is a spectrum of hooker-to-harlot-to-hopefuls, they are all fundamentally seeking the economic security of permanent relationships. Time works relentlessly against them: Asian men consider women over 25, who are still single, to be potentially-poor marriage material. After age 30, there is a distinct loss-of-attractiveness, especially in mothers.

So, what do we have to offer for the puki? Certainly not marriage in a no-divorce country, with imprisonment for adultery! Meals, gifts, money, some attention (mostly sexual); possibly a mixed-race child to a single mother. Hardly the objectives of their dreams and long-term support imperatives. For guys with a conscience, it is a bit of a conundrum. I personally don't expel any wrigglies to worsen the country's overpopulation problem and, contrary to most nationalities, Filipinas are mostly okay with that, if a supportive relationship is present.

It is very easy to play the field, especially with provincial gals, whom amorous males could visit in endless rinse-and-repeat cycles across the republic, or merely in the capital. Actor Michael Caine (91), rhetorically asked in Alfie (1966, aged 32): 'What's it all about?" How do you reconcile male sexual imperative with females' desire for permanence? And what is fair compensation for their short, or long, time company?

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2986454]And what is fair compensation for their short, or long, time company?[/QUOTE]Fair compensation will be different per gent, the same way that beauty is different for each gent. You or I might think that both 2000 and 2500 are both reasonable or fair amounts for a given time with a given girl. But to her, one of those numbers is a 25% increase over the other (or a 20% drop).

OTOH, I could make the point that p400 is fair compensation for the same girl in the same situation. What if the same girl, whom I'd paid p2000 to before, had such an extreme emergency today that she told me she would do ANYTHING for a fast p400. Should I commit with her to give her 400, then have her, and then give her P400? Or P2000? Or something between? I think there might be multiple right or wrong answers there.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2986291]This is where a little patience is of great assistance. A platonic coffee or Jollie burger on day 1 for a shy girl often results in her coming over to say thanks on day 2. This is a lot better than scaring her off by insisting to meet straight in your hotel room.

Of course, we also have the other extreme: girls who do not want to risk being seen with a foreigner in the wild so will suggest coming straight to the hotel.

It's not difficult to play both ends of the game.

G.[/QUOTE]For online strangers that can be ladyboys, or look totally different in reality, I never tell them where I stay, I always met them at some restaurant close by, that way, I'm protected, and they are also protected from being seen at the the mall in the company of an old and ugly man (that by the way is still in his 30's in his head).

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2986454]Asian men consider women over 25, who are still single, to be potentially-poor marriage material. After age 30, there is a distinct loss-of-attractiveness, especially in mothers.
[/QUOTE]Poor marriage material in what aspect? The way you say, they are only looking for someone to be attractive for the first 5 years of marriage. After that, what do they do with them? A woman is going to age the same whether she is married or not at a certain age.

To me, there would be more to marrying a person than their attractiveness. Is she helpful? Do we enjoy some of the same things? Do we like being around each other? I married her because she is young and pretty are ridiculous qualifications. That is like buying a car because it looks good. Damn how it performs and the reliability and maintenance.

I am 52 and would personally never get married. But if I did then it would probably be to a woman who is at least 30 because she has had some life experiences and has shown some resilience. I do not want to be trying to train anyone, especially someone that may not even be trainable. I want someone who is already prepared for the job.

A couple of days ago my mom had me go buy tires for her car. She was insisting on Michelin. I said mom with Michelin you are paying for their advertisement. There is more to a tire than a name. Tires actually have grades written on them, and as to the grading these Falkens are a better tire and cheaper to boot. There is more to a woman than how pretty she looks.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2986512]For online strangers that can be ladyboys, or look totally different in reality, [/QUOTE]Why not just ask if they are bakla and videocall to see if someone looks totally different in reality? That would save you time and money.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2986476]Fair compensation will be different per gent, the same way that beauty is different for each gent. You or I might think that both 2000 and 2500 are both reasonable or fair amounts for a given time with a given girl. But to her, one of those numbers is a 25% increase over the other (or a 20% drop).[/QUOTE]Fair is what you agree on with the woman. The other day I had a chick at Manila Bay Cafe (or whatever it is called these days) first try to get me for 4000, then 3500. In the end, it turned out that 2000 was actually fair compensation.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2986454]In Thailand, the rules are fairly well-defined in the pay-for-play market but, in The Philippines, one is dealing with a 65%-higher population (115 m vs. 70 m, in just 42% of the Thais' land): quite-poor women just seeking a meal-ticket / ATM in life. The ageless saying: "Men want a woman's first love; women want a man's last love" & Professor Dawkins' 'The Selfish Gene', highlight the disparity between male and female behavioural directives.

Although there is a spectrum of hooker-to-harlot-to-hopefuls, they are all fundamentally seeking the economic security of permanent relationships. Time works relentlessly against them: Asian men consider women over 25, who are still single, to be potentially-poor marriage material. After age 30, there is a distinct loss-of-attractiveness, especially in mothers.

So, what do we have to offer for the puki? Certainly not marriage in a no-divorce country, with imprisonment for adultery! Meals, gifts, money, some attention (mostly sexual); possibly a mixed-race child to a single mother. Hardly the objectives of their dreams and long-term support imperatives. For guys with a conscience, it is a bit of a conundrum. I personally don't expel any wrigglies to worsen the country's overpopulation problem and, contrary to most nationalities, Filipinas are mostly okay with that, if a supportive relationship is present.

It is very easy to play the field, especially with provincial gals, whom amorous males could visit in endless rinse-and-repeat cycles across the republic, or merely in the capital. Actor Michael Caine (91), rhetorically asked in Alfie (1966, aged 32): 'What's it all about?" How do you reconcile male sexual imperative with females' desire for permanence? And what is fair compensation for their short, or long, time company?[/QUOTE]I think it all comes down to what your intent is? If you are just wanting sex with someone who is selling it, then that is what it is. Most women know about condoms and birth control and have the choice to insist on using it or not. As does the man. If she doesn't use it and gets pregnant, then that is on her. For every man that would turn her down for wanting to use a condom, there is one who wouldn't turn her down. But, contrary to what some people think, fucking a hooker (or even taking her out for dinner and an activity before fucking her) isn't a date. Some YouTuber has a whole series about dating a bar girl. How to get her to go out with you for bar fine, etc. That isn't dating!

If you want a relationship with a girl, then treat it like a relationship. But don't fake it just to fuck her, especially when it is so cheap to find a lady for a couple thousand pesos if that's all you want. When you pay a prostitute, you pay them for their time, but you also pay them so they go away; it's part of the game. But it isn't like this for a relationship. That's about giving your time, care, and attention. It's not just sex. I'm blessed with two awesome Filipinas who are about a real relationship, and I have children with both. Of course money becomes part of that equation then, like it does in any relationship. But, as one should be in a relationship, I was careful before committing to either woman. Both women are too proud to rely on just me. In fact, the second one wanted nothing at all. I had to convince her to let me help some with building our house, and then opening a bank account to put money up to save for our child. And she sends me picture of her account balance each month just to show that she isn't using that money.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2986533]I think it all comes down to what your intent is? [/QUOTE]Having read positive reviews of it, I tried to watch Anora, a movie about a rich Rusisan kid (Xpartan?) who falls for a New York stripper. Do yourself a favour and miss this tripe, which is a cross between Pretty Woman and a bad report here. The start of it is good with the bored lap dancers milking the punters but, after that, it is tripe which Wikipedia informs us is "comedy / romance". Outside of some good boob jobs, I se no upsides Maybe it is me as guys falls for hookers with or without good boob jobs.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2986454]In Thailand, the rules are fairly well-defined in the pay-for-play market but, in The Philippines, one is dealing with a 65%-higher population (115 m vs. 70 m, in just 42% of the Thais' land): quite-poor women just seeking a meal-ticket / ATM in life. The ageless saying: "Men want a woman's first love; women want a man's last love" & Professor Dawkins' 'The Selfish Gene', highlight the disparity between male and female behavioural directives.

Although there is a spectrum of hooker-to-harlot-to-hopefuls, they are all fundamentally seeking the economic security of permanent relationships. Time works relentlessly against them: Asian men consider women over 25, who are still single, to be potentially-poor marriage material. After age 30, there is a distinct loss-of-attractiveness, especially in mothers.

So, what do we have to offer for the puki? Certainly not marriage in a no-divorce country, with imprisonment for adultery! Meals, gifts, money, some attention (mostly sexual); possibly a mixed-race child to a single mother. Hardly the objectives of their dreams and long-term support imperatives. For guys with a conscience, it is a bit of a conundrum. I personally don't expel any wrigglies to worsen the country's overpopulation problem and, contrary to most nationalities, Filipinas are mostly okay with that, if a supportive relationship is present.

It is very easy to play the field, especially with provincial gals, whom amorous males could visit in endless rinse-and-repeat cycles across the republic, or merely in the capital. Actor Michael Caine (91), rhetorically asked in Alfie (1966, aged 32): 'What's it all about?" How do you reconcile male sexual imperative with females' desire for permanence? And what is fair compensation for their short, or long, time company?[/QUOTE]Have you considered that you may be slightly overthinking things? Just a little?

I'm just having a good time getting laid.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2986519]Why not just ask if they are bakla and videocall to see if someone looks totally different in reality? That would save you time and money.[/QUOTE]Ooo, I always do, and I do it in a nice deceptive way, so they may take it as I'm into the ladyboys, and answer truthfully: "you look gorgeous, are you a ladyboy by any chance?" , also I do the videocall, but still, I want to see the goods before letting them into my room. I'm a very nice guy, and even if they don't meet the standards, I refuse them nicely, making up some excuse, and give them few hundred peso for the trouble, you never know how you may run into them, or their friends in the future.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2986743]Ooo, I always do, and I do it in a nice deceptive way, so they may take it as I'm into the ladyboys, and answer truthfully: "you look gorgeous, are you a ladyboy by any chance?" , also I do the videocall, but still, I want to see the goods before letting them into my room. I'm a very nice guy, and even if they don't meet the standards, I refuse them nicely, making up some excuse, and give them few hundred peso for the trouble, you never know how you may run into them, or their friends in the future.[/QUOTE]I am not so nice with it. I rub it in and make them feel ashamed for trying to pull some bullshit. I especially would not give them money for wasting my time.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2986617]Have you considered that you may be slightly overthinking things? Just a little?

I'm just having a good time getting laid.[/QUOTE]LOL. The beef at McDonald's is 90% lean while the beef at Burger King is 80% lean. At Burger King they tend to flame grill which locks in the flavor from the fat. At McDonald's they have a special sauce in which they have combined mayo, ketchup, relish, and Worcestershire.

At what point do you stop the analysis and technical shit and just buy a burger and eat it? Dude has to be an engineer or statistician. I know one board member who is an engineer, and after his trips he compiles all these stats. Hell, I can't even remember the names of the chicks I fucked.

Got to love this place.

The land of sweet brown nipples and the immaculate vagina.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2986818]Got to love this place.

The land of sweet brown nipples and the immaculate vagina.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]"Immaculate" may be a bit of a stretch. Especially when we're done with them.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2986801]I am not so nice with it. I rub it in and make them feel ashamed for trying to pull some bullshit. I especially would not give them money for wasting my time.[/QUOTE]I know that I'm nice when I don't supposed to be, but I'm just thinking how desperate they must be and I don't want to put them down more than they are already, few dollars doesn't mean nothing to me, and my time is already wasted. To top it off I must say that also I'm not the confrontational type, and now that I'm old I try to avoid embarrassing situations where yelling may be involved.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2986803]At what point do you stop the analysis and technical shit and just buy a burger and eat it? Dude has to be an engineer or statistician. I know one board member who is an engineer, and after his trips he compiles all these stats. Hell, I can't even remember the names of the chicks I fucked.[/QUOTE]I remember a poster who had been preparing for a trip for months, chatting to girls online, getting details and planning dates. He built a massive spreadsheet of times vs names, prioritised by looks with backup plans A to Z should girls flake, arrive late or be Godzilla.

I think I'm the end he fucked maybe two girls over two weeks.

I prefer to just arrive and start messaging. The first to knock on my door wins 1000 peso. If they are fun, then they get to come back again.

Enjoy. G.

Goferring, do you think Manila is better or Pampanga is best to use as a base station for fun? I have been to Pampanga prior to 2018 but from all the reading here about AC. I won't waste money in AC bars for 5's and 6's. I am leaning on trying out Manila. But concerned the offer of 1500 or 2000 pesos might work better in Pampanga area? Yeah I know I could simply change hotels. But curious about your opinions. And if others want to chime in- cool! I have in the past used PinaLove and Tinder. From the way I discern Angeles City (Pampanga) area. Lots of ladies are simply not wanting to be Stuck at bar. And prefer to be freelancers.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2986945]Goferring, do you think Manila is better or Pampanga is best to use as a base station for fun? I have been to Pampanga prior to 2018 but from all the reading here about AC. I won't waste money in AC bars for 5's and 6's. I am leaning on trying out Manila. But concerned the offer of 1500 or 2000 pesos might work better in Pampanga area? Yeah I know I could simply change hotels. But curious about your opinions. And if others want to chime in- cool! I have in the past used PinaLove and Tinder. From the way I discern Angeles City (Pampanga) area. Lots of ladies are simply not wanting to be Stuck at bar. And prefer to be freelancers.[/QUOTE]As usual, it depends. 😁. You don't say what your situation is and what your preferences are.

AC has cheaper girls, accommodation and food. Guys only go for one reason so time to nut is low as girls won't expect any games or prelim dates. Girls are available online, off the street, out in suburbia and, obviously, at the bars. 2 k shortimes are very doable. If your staying a long time, there is very little (nothing? To do besides drink, fuck and sleep but the airport does have good domestic connections to other far more interesting areas. Descriptions of AC as a shithole are very accurate.

Manila is huge so let's define the discussion to the areas popular with foreigners. It's a chaotic mess. Having a girl to come see you from the other side of town can easily be a several hours exercise. Everything is more expensive than AC when comparing like for like. Some bars and girls eyewateringly so. 2 k would be really limiting your options. Lots of nice areas to stay and a lot to see and do when not fucking. Everywhere has ugly and pretty girls but the cream of the crop follow the money and end up in Manila. You are also far more likely to find an absolute stunner simply walking down the street or in a shop buying groceries. Manila airport has connections to everywhere and often multiple flights per day.

Why not visit both, allow some flexibility in your bookings, and stay where ever you like the most?

I should emphasise that I don't hang out at gogos any more, dislike AC and haven't been back for years so I might be biased.

Having said that: if I only had a few days, I wouldn't even leave Manila; if I had more time then I would include AC and stay longer if I liked it.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2986818]Got to love this place.
The land of sweet brown nipples and the immaculate vagina.
_ Phil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2986894]"Immaculate" may be a bit of a stretch. Especially when we're done with them.[/QUOTE]Kenji me old mate.

It's remarkable how they all bounce back into perfect condition.

Never had a dodgy vag in The Phils and I must say, there's been a few of them.

Additionally, tits have never been my priority, even with Western women.

Ie: Size has never really mattered, as long as they've got them and they're not fake.

But to me, there's just something about the stiff brown nips of a Filipina.

I just can't put finger on it.

Right at this moment _ Phil.

Mr G,

Once again very impressed by the research based analysis for replying.

Great to see the better to regard the differences between the 2 cities.

Victor.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2986959]As usual, it depends. 😁. You don't say what your situation is and what your preferences are.

AC has cheaper girls, accommodation and food. Guys only go for one reason so time to nut is low as girls won't expect any games or prelim dates. Girls are available online, off the street, out in suburbia and, obviously, at the bars. 2 k shortimes are very doable. If your staying a long time, there is very little (nothing? To do besides drink, fuck and sleep but the airport does have good domestic connections to other far more interesting areas. Descriptions of AC as a shithole are very accurate.

Manila is huge so let's define the discussion to the areas popular with foreigners. It's a chaotic mess. Having a girl to come see you from the other side of town can easily be a several hours exercise. Everything is more expensive than AC when comparing like for like. Some bars and girls eyewateringly so. 2 k would be really limiting your options. Lots of nice areas to stay and a lot to see and do when not fucking. Everywhere has ugly and pretty girls but the cream of the crop follow the money and end up in Manila. You are also far more likely to find an absolute stunner simply walking down the street or in a shop buying groceries. Manila airport has connections to everywhere and often multiple flights per day.[/QUOTE]

YT vid titled [B]9 Panty Droppers in the Philippines[/B]. Vlogger = Smart Girl Philippines, Irish. Filipina dishes how to for 12 minutes.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjRpEcifepQ[/URL]

"Because the man who succeeds in getting the attention of a woman gets to propagate his DNA". Love that quote.

Thank you Goferring. Interesting since I assumed Manila would be cheaper (for the Pinalove app date requests) - maybe I should just hang around Pampanga and get a decent hotel there and call it a day. Last trip these three ladies were an indication of quality. Circa 2018. The Central Park Hotel. The one to the right was from a Wolf Pack bar -one from DIA and the other from a Perimiter bar. I would be happy with similar types in looks. I had done Jakarta twice and the ladies there are much better in looks but Indo is different and like you said about Philippines. There isn't much to do. Although in Pattaya there are some things to do. And one can walk on the beach road. But I digress.

I am just scared to death by the lack of good looking ladies in the AC bars and I would be betting the farm that enough ladies are willing to come back to my hotel if I return to Philippines. Plus one poster about 15 posts back (maybe on Angeles City thread) - stated that the AC bar girls are all wanting condoms now. If that attitude has crept over to the apps like Tinder and PinaLove. I'll have do pass on Philippines. But I see Westcoast is a BBFS master. So maybe there is hope!

Thanks. Just want a "sure thing. " Sorry if I am whining. For what its worth the Philippine ladies are the Sweetest and I would like to get back to that GFE I experienced there. But they got to be semi-hot and at least a 7 out of 10 and provide BBFS!

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2987202]Thank you Goferring. Interesting since I assumed Manila would be cheaper (for the Pinalove app date requests) - maybe I should just hang around Pampanga and get a decent hotel there and call it a day. Last trip these three ladies were an indication of quality. Circa 2018. The Central Park Hotel. The one to the right was from a Wolf Pack bar -one from DIA and the other from a Perimiter bar. I would be happy with similar types in looks. I had done Jakarta twice and the ladies there are much better in looks but Indo is different and like you said about Philippines. There isn't much to do. Although in Pattaya there are some things to do. And one can walk on the beach road. But I digress.

I am just scared to death by the lack of good looking ladies in the AC bars and I would be betting the farm that enough ladies are willing to come back to my hotel if I return to Philippines. Plus one poster about 15 posts back (maybe on Angeles City thread) - stated that the AC bar girls are all wanting condoms now. If that attitude has crept over to the apps like Tinder and PinaLove. I'll have do pass on Philippines. But I see Westcoast is a BBFS master. So maybe there is hope!

Thanks. Just want a "sure thing. " Sorry if I am whining. For what its worth the Philippine ladies are the Sweetest and I would like to get back to that GFE I experienced there. But they got to be semi-hot and at least a 7 out of 10 and provide BBFS![/QUOTE]To put it in simple words: you get what you pay for, the sky is the limit. If you really want to have a woman, it does not matter that she is a cherry girl, a supermodel, or a Korean only girl, you can have her regardless of your looks, for the right price. They are all the same, they are in the bar to fuck for money, otherwise they will be as far away from there as possible.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2987202]Thank you Goferring. Interesting since I assumed Manila would be cheaper[/QUOTE]Don't forget my caveat: like for like. A PL girl in Manila will be cheaper than a AC barfine but that's not like for like. Manila barfines are more expensive than AC and Manila online is more expensive than AC online. Again all things being equal.

I wouldn't regard any of the recent photos of AC girls as ugly. Sir Lance and friends seemed to do well for them selves.

Don't get me start on Jakarta comparisons. If you're there now, don't leave. $30 for two 19 yo's at the Classic? Ain't going to get that anywhere in AC or MNL. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

Was browsing recently looking for a domestic flight here in Phils on the PAL site. Having chosen a flight based on date, time, and Premium Economy, while going thru the process of purchase, I pulled up the seat map. All of the Prem Economy seats were open. I wanted to go back to the previous page to check something and I hit the BACK button. I was directed to the previous page, but then this popped up (see pic). A warning that I should hurry, as seat selection was in danger of closing. Oh my! I went forward and chose one of the available 18 open PE seats (all of them were still available).

BTW the difference in price between the Economy seat and the Prem Economy seat, all-in, was about p900.

I appreciate there are 'Throwaway Reservation / Ticket' outfits online, who will very-cheaply furnish 'evidence' of a ticket out -- to show airline check-in & immigration on the outward leg. However, these have dubious legal standing and can be rejected -- forcing travellers to buy a full-fare ticket out of the PI at the last moment. There is an American on YT called 'Vagabond Dan', who travels continuously with a 6-foot, Malaysian ex-model; he uses those dodgy tickets most of the time but admits they do get caught occasionally, and have to buy full fare at the last moment to board.

Philippine embassies do offer a 59-day 'Temporary Visitors Visa', which still requires evidence of ticketing, but at least one can book the dates confidently for a 2-month trip, without the need for airline change fees.

Thought I was being clever buying an Oman Air economy 'Flex' ticket with 'No Change Fees'. So I could extend my return date, once in for the initial 30 days. I then extended for 29 days online (permitted once only, apparently), costing ₱3,030, which went through smoothly -- although I did have to email immigration for the result of my application -- the Philippines is notorious for inviting online applications for anything, then totally 'forgetting' to inform the applicant of the result, LOL.

Returning to Oman Air, they want to charge me the same as my original return ticket again ($930), for a one-month extension of the return date. A friend travelling on Emirates was charged a reasonable fee of $140 for his return-date change, partly by being flexible on the timing. Airlines especially take advantage of 'date-changers' at busy times, and charge inflated prices, plus their standard fees. It is difficult to pin them down as to the cost of date changes after departure. I am minded to take a minimal sector refund from Oman Air and book my homeward flight elsewhere. The 'Trading Standards Department' back home will be interested to hear what they are up to: playing their third-world games in the West.

Regarding my earlier point below about the morality of 'compensated dating', as the Japanese call it: if a clear, P4P arrangement is made, that's fine. My point was that most Filipinas on dating sites are willing to go out with foreigners in the conventional sense, and panty-drop after a modicum of 'treats', in prospect of an ongoing relationship. It is up to players' conscience as to whether it is fair to string well-intentioned females along in that way, with little cost or investment being expended.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2987751]I appreciate there are 'Throwaway Reservation / Ticket' outfits online, who will very-cheaply furnish 'evidence' of a ticket out -- to show airline check-in & immigration on the outward leg. However, these have dubious legal standing and can be rejected -- forcing travellers to buy a full-fare ticket out of the PI at the last moment. There is an American on YT called 'Vagabond Dan', who travels continuously with a 6-foot, Malaysian ex-model; he uses those dodgy tickets most of the time but admits they do get caught occasionally, and have to buy full fare at the last moment to board.

[/QUOTE]Don't forget that an onward ticket is required twice: once when you arrive in NAIA but also when you first get your boarding pass at your home country Departures. Without an onward ticket it's likely you won't even be allowed to board.

I've had to show an onward ticket at NAIA maybe 25% of the time.

I've had to show an onward ticket at home Departures 100% of the time before being welcomes aboard.

NAIA immigration will accept that extensions are a formality and be ok with a ticket out in 58 days. None of my home airlines will. I always get a dummy ticket for $15. I've never heard of them being refused.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2987842]Don't forget that an onward ticket is required twice: once when you arrive in NAIA but also when you first get your boarding pass at your home country Departures. Without an onward ticket it's likely you won't even be allowed to board.

I've had to show an onward ticket at NAIA maybe 25% of the time.

I've had to show an onward ticket at home Departures 100% of the time before being welcomes aboard.

NAIA immigration will accept that extensions are a formality and be ok with a ticket out in 58 days. None of my home airlines will. I always get a dummy ticket for $15. I've never heard of them being refused.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Don't forget the eGovPH app.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2987842] I always get a dummy ticket for $15. I've never heard of them being refused.[/QUOTE]Good point about check-in at the home airport. Airlines don't want to be fined if the destination rejects them for lack of an onward ticket. Actual onward/return flight costs can vary significantly by date, so try to be flexible. Which company do you use for those temporary, 'check-in' tickets?

On SE Asian regional flights: Low-Cost Carriers vs. Major Airlines ... the former could be considered false economy because of poor timings, added checked-baggage fees and their point-to-point (non-guaranteed) nature. I prefer to pay very little more with Thai or Philippine Airlines to avoid those inconveniences and hectic check-in lines, plus enjoy better seats.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2987895]Which company do you use for those temporary, 'check-in' tickets?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2987889]Don't forget the eGovPH app.[/QUOTE]I use Top Onward Ticket but here are many to choose from if you Google 'Onward Ticket'.

A good point. Trying to key in the data in the immigration area upon arrival is a major PITA due to very unreliable cell and wifi data. Definitely do it before departure.

Enjoy. G.

PSA. Updated e-Travel video by vlogger Jennifer Terri. Apparently the e-Travel app and website has been updated a tad, to allow the BI to better integrate with foreign law enforcement (she mentioned Interpol). Also a warning about utilizing 'fixer' websites to obtain police clearances or e-Travel registration (see pix). Relevant info in this 8-minute vid for foreigners is the first 3 minutes. In another similar video she said that e-Travel registration is tied to your PP. So when you enter the Phils and the Immigration officer swipes your PP, your e-Travel info comes up on his screen (you no longer need to show your e-Travel QR code or such).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Feq8T13WMc[/URL]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2987971]PSA. Updated e-Travel video by vlogger Jennifer Terri. Apparently the e-Travel app and website has been updated a tad, to allow the BI to better integrate with foreign law enforcement (she mentioned Interpol). Also a warning about utilizing 'fixer' websites to obtain police clearances or e-Travel registration (see pix). Relevant info in this 8-minute vid for foreigners is the first 3 minutes. In another similar video she said that e-Travel registration is tied to your PP. So when you enter the Phils and the Immigration officer swipes your PP, your e-Travel info comes up on his screen (you no longer need to show your e-Travel QR code or such).

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Feq8T13WMc[/URL][/QUOTE]I've never needed a police clearance for anything, but why would anyone knowingly use an agency to do their eTravel? It is only a few minutes and not painful to do. I don't get it.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2988151]I've never needed a police clearance for anything, but why would anyone knowingly use an agency to do their eTravel? It is only a few minutes and not painful to do. I don't get it.[/QUOTE]Agree, but apparently people do it. Its possible that scammers get your phone number or email, then send you a (bad) link reminding you to process your eTravel. You click on their link and end up with trouble.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2988153]Agree, but apparently people do it. Its possible that scammers get your phone number or email, then send you a (bad) link reminding you to process your eTravel. You click on their link and end up with trouble.[/QUOTE]They fool search engines into prioritising over genuine, government sites. People are lazy and dumb; they send millions to fake, Nigerian princes, LOL! And allow themselves to be injected with untested viral remedies, without any evidence of viruses even existing.

Foreign nationals who have stayed in the Philippines for six months or more may need to obtain an Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC) before departing the country. However, the requirement for a police clearance specifically after six months of stay is not explicitly mentioned in the provided context. The ECC is required for certain categories of foreign nationals, including those who have stayed in the Philippines for six months or more and are holders of a Temporary Visitor Visa.

Foreigners staying in the Philippines for more than six months must obtain an Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC) before leaving the country. This requirement applies to tourists who have stayed for six months or more and those with expired or downgraded visas. The ECC is necessary to ensure that the individual has complied with visa extensions and other immigration regulations. Tourists staying more than six months must submit the proper form along with three passport-sized photographs and the visa fees. The processing time for the ECC is typically 4-5 business days, with an expedite option available for an additional fee. It is important to note that the ECC and travel tax are separate requirements. If you are a permanent resident temporarily leaving the country, you must apply for a re-entry permit with the Bureau of Immigration (BI). However, this information is specifically for permanent residents and not tourists.

Tax Clearance Philippines: When leaving the Philippines after staying for more than six months, foreigners are required to obtain an Exit Clearance Certificate (ECC) from the Bureau of Immigration. This is necessary to ensure that all visa extensions and other formalities are in order. For foreigners, the ECC is required if they have stayed over six months on a tourist visa and must be acquired during the 72 hours before departure. The ECC can be obtained at the airport, but it is advisable to bring enough cash as the fee can exceed 1,200 pesos. It is important to note that the ECC and travel tax are separate payments. The ECC is a formal procedure to ensure compliance with immigration laws, while the travel tax is a departure tax for Filipino citizens. Exit Clearance Certificate (ECC): Required for foreigners who have stayed in the Philippines for more than six months and must be obtained before departure.

SRRV (Special Resident Retirees Visa) holders in the Philippines are generally exempt from obtaining re-entry permits. They can travel in and out of the country without the need for reapplication for entry visas and are exempt from Exit Clearance and Re-entry Permits (presumably including Police/Tax clearance -- but check with your SRRV handler). Additionally, SRRV holders are also exempt from the Annual Registration requirement and do not need to apply for an Alien Certificate of Registration (ACR) I-Card as required by the Bureau of Immigration. This exemption allows SRRV holders to enjoy special express lanes at the Immigration Area, which speeds up immigration procedures. The SRRV requires a deposit of either $10,000 or $20,000, depending on the applicant's age and health status ($1,500 for veterans). For healthy and active principal retirees who want to use their visa deposit towards renting an apartment or buying a condominium unit, the deposit is $20,000 if they are ages 50 and higher, and $50,000 for those aged 35 to 49. For ailing retirees who need medical or clinical services, the deposit is $10,000, along with a monthly pension of at least $1,500 and health coverage that is acceptable in the Philippines. The deposit is held in a designated bank account and can be used for specific purposes, such as purchasing real estate, but it cannot be withdrawn for personal use while the retiree remains in the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2988209]Foreigners staying in the Philippines for more than six months must obtain an Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC) before leaving the country. This requirement applies to tourists who have stayed for six months or more and those with expired or downgraded visas. The ECC is necessary to ensure that the individual has complied with visa extensions and other immigration regulations. Tourists staying more than six months must submit the proper form along with three passport-sized photographs and the visa fees. The processing time for the ECC is typically 4-5 business days, with an expedite option available for an additional fee. It is important to note that the ECC and travel tax are separate requirements. If you are a permanent resident temporarily leaving the country, you must apply for a re-entry permit with the Bureau of Immigration (BI). However, this information is specifically for permanent residents and not tourists.[/QUOTE]Good work Trevor. Can you provide a link?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2988223]Good work Trevor. Can you provide a link?[/QUOTE]I used search.brave.com (A.I. button) for the earlier text. It is a pretty-reliable, meta-search engine. There are lots of commercial, police-clearance sites but you need one with 'gov.ph' in the URL. Still not sure if it is an absolute requirement for leaving after 6 months' stay, although the US embassy site does not mention it.
[URL]https://www.foi.gov.ph/agencies/pnp/police-clearance-renewal-non-appearance-pnp-110582842700/[/URL]

Emigration Clearance Certificate (ECC)
[URL]https://ph.usembassy.gov/exit-clearances/[/URL]
[URL]https://e-services.immigration.gov.ph/Dashboard/Index?ReturnUrl=%2FEmigrationClearanceCertificateB[/URL]

Must appear in person
[URL]https://newlandchase.com/philippines-personal-appearance-for-emigration-clearance-certificate-applications/[/URL]

I never stayed in PH without exiting for 6 months, my base is in PH, but I like to move around. Before the eGovPH app when I used to go to the Marquee Mall immigration office for extensions, they always charged me an extra 1,5 K (I think) for the police clearance, and it was official, not a scam. I don't know if it changed, it's not needed anymore, or is only for more than 2 months stay, or they were making extra contributions to the police fund, for something that's optional. (Or maybe I look suspicious).

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2988372]I never stayed in PH without exiting for 6 months, my base is in PH, but I like to move around. Before the eGovPH app when I used to go to the Marquee Mall immigration office for extensions, they always charged me an extra 1,5 K (I think) for the police clearance, and it was official, not a scam. I don't know if it changed, it's not needed anymore, or is only for more than 2 months stay, or they were making extra contributions to the police fund, for something that's optional. (Or maybe I look suspicious).[/QUOTE]Has anyone overstayed beyond 59 days by accident? I'm wondering if it is much of a problem?

I've overstayed beyond the original 30 days before without renewal and the only ramification at the airport was some finger waving and having to immediately buy the 29 day extension even if I've only over stayed one day.

Given the extra applications and paperwork required for visas beyond 59 days, do Immigration cause much of a problem at the airport for an over stay?

Cheers. G.

P.S. Before anyone asks, no I'm not intending to purposely overstay. I'm just winding if it's as casual as overstating 30+ days.

Anyone here a P. I. Or know a good one in Metro Manila I can send money to and trust he'll do the requested work. I'm trying to find a girl. I know, I know it sounds stupid. But I might just give it a try.

Send me a PM. You don't have to reply here.

Cheers.

Dear Admin,

Is there any chance of starting a thread for "All the different excuses girls have given you for needing money".

I had a regular hit me up just now to pay for her 'brother's' funeral.

Some of hers have been classic. And just so comical and not so well thought out with fake photos and the like.

And don't the Filipinas just love that fucking howling / crying Emoji.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2988485]And don't the Filipinas just love that fucking howling / crying Emoji.[/QUOTE]Huhu. Huhuhu. Huhuhuhu. Huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu!

[QUOTE=Goferring;2988409]Has anyone overstayed beyond 59 days by accident? I'm wondering if it is much of a problem?

I've overstayed beyond the original 30 days before without renewal and the only ramification at the airport was some finger waving and having to immediately buy the 29 day extension even if I've only over stayed one day.

Given the extra applications and paperwork required for visas beyond 59 days, do Immigration cause much of a problem at the airport for an over stay?

Cheers. G.

P.S. Before anyone asks, no I'm not intending to purposely overstay. I'm just winding if it's as casual as overstating 30+ days.[/QUOTE]I never overstayed my visa, sometimes I paid for nothing because I exited a few months in advance. I wish they change the system that forfeits automatically whatever time you have left on your visa by exiting the country.

[QUOTE=Lalake;2988448]I know, I know it sounds stupid. But I might just give it a try. Cheers.[/QUOTE]No harm in trying mate, but from what I know, you're probably going to need a DOB and full legal name to begin with, otherwise it will cost you a fortune in groundwork _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2988528]No harm in trying mate, but from what I know, you're probably going to need a DOB and full legal name to begin with, otherwise it will cost you a fortune in groundwork _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Filipinas, especially working girls, have an extensive online presence. Between Facebook, friends of friends and image reverse searches, it's probably easier for him to do it himself.

That's 90% of what a PI would do.

G.

[QUOTE=Lalake;2988448]Anyone here a P. I. Or know a good one in Metro Manila I can send money to and trust he'll do the requested work. I'm trying to find a girl. I know, I know it sounds stupid. But I might just give it a try..[/QUOTE]If she does not want you to find her, you wil not find her.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2988596]If she does not want you to find her, you wil not find her.[/QUOTE]True but so sad to hear that Lalake's rich old grandma died and left him a fortune. Did you hear he was looking for an old girlfriend to buy a house and settle down with? Wait, who could that be knocking on the door? Why it's Girlie and she misses Lalake and wants to meet him again. What a surprise.

Wasn't it the DEA who perfected the crack dealers winning Lotto scam? How stupid can someone be?

Enjoy. G.

Monthly Pension: A minimum monthly pension of US $1,500.00 is required. For former Filipinos, the requirement is US $1,000.00.

Health Insurance: A health insurance policy accepted in the Philippines.

SRR Visa Deposit: A deposit of US $10,000. 00 is required. For former Filipinos and certain categories of applicants, the deposit is US $1,500.00.

NBI Clearance: If the applicant has stayed in the Philippines for more than 30 days from the date of last entry prior to the SRRV application, an NBI Clearance is required. This clearance is valid for one year from the date it was secured.

Passport: The applicant must have an original passport with a valid arrival / entry visa in the Philippines and must be physically present in the Philippines during the processing of the SRRV application.

Additional Dependents: For each additional dependent beyond two, an additional visa deposit of US $15,000. 00 must be remitted under the name of the principal applicant, except for former Filipinos under the SRRV Courtesy.

The SRRV visa offers several benefits, including indefinite stay with multiple-entry / exit privileges, exemption from certain fees and taxes, and other advantages. For the most up-to-date and detailed information, it is recommended to contact SRRV Visa Consultancy directly.

[URL]https://pra.gov.ph/srrv/[/URL]

Complete and properly filled out applications can be processed as fast as 15 to 20 working days, if you apply at one of the main PRA branches. If you apply through a satellite office, processing time can extend to 25 to 30 business days.

NBI clearance is a bummer but sounds like a one-off in this case. I assume any tax-clearance requirement is waived, as SRRV holders are not permitted to work.

All that said, many just continue staying, long-term, on tourist visa-waiver extensions, for up to 3 years! Nowadays, one can be called in for a personal interview but, if financially-solvent and well-dressed, should not be an issue. Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989169]All that said, many just continue staying, long-term, on tourist visa-waiver extensions, for up to 3 years! Nowadays, one can be called in for a personal interview but, if financially-solvent and well-dressed, should not be an issue. Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?[/QUOTE]The information I elided was good and to the point, thouygh the paperwork seems tedious.

You ask who wants to stay in muff land for a continuius 3 years. Many do. I do but I doubt I could hack it at this stage. I look at the losers' videos online and those who settle in and plod along, running small busienss and humouring their lady friends. Of ocurse, folk end up everywhere but the Phils is a palce you want to have your ducks in order or you'd end up nuts or worse. I don't think I could do three years. In a prison, yes but I the funny farm that is the Phils, no.

Nudder good report there Trevor.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989169]NBI clearance is a bummer but sounds like a one-off in this case.[/QUOTE]Ya its rare to need one. I got a clearance at the NBI Clearance Center on United Nations Ave (corner Taft Ave). Simple process of registering online FIRST, then showing up around my appointment time. Once inside, fill out some forms, show PP, get finger-printed. They told me to come back in an hour and pick up the actual clearance. It cost a few hundred pesos and took about 2 hours total once there (including waiting around for the printout). They process hundreds of applicants per hour there, its a cattle-call.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989169]All that said, many just continue staying, long-term, on tourist visa-waiver extensions, for up to 3 years! [/QUOTE]The 13-A, SRRV, and the tourist-ACR are really a "Six of one, half a dozen of the other" situation. Each has advantages and disadvantages.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989169]Nowadays, one can be called in for a personal interview but, if [b]financially-solvent[/b] and [b]well-dressed[/b], should not be an issue.[/QUOTE]Two issues that not every expat can muster. Was walking thru a market yesterday and there on the sidewalk a late-60's white man in dirty clothes was selling hard candies for 2 pesos each. I was told that SRRV and 13-A are exempt from the personal interview.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989169]Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?[/QUOTE]Ya, that's a good question.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989169]'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' Who wants to stay in La-La-Land for a continuous 3 years anyway?[/QUOTE]I been staying for more than 3 years on tourist visa extensions, but I do lots of SEA or EU trips every few months, whenever tickets are on sale. My hobbies are beautiful pussy, travel and photography. Lately I gave up on the photographic quest. My tourist card expired also, but I keep using it for hotels and internal flights, nobody ever bothers to look on the back for the expiration date, cannot get another one yet because I never stayed continuously long enough, without exiting.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2989225]My tourist card expired also, but I keep using it for hotels and internal flights, nobody ever bothers to look on the back for the expiration date, cannot get another one yet because I never stayed continuously long enough, without exiting.[/QUOTE]You are referring to the ACR (Alien certificate of registration) card. Seniors can avail themselves of up to 35% discount in participating food outlets, e.g. Zark's Burgers. What benefits do you enjoy presenting it for hotels and domestic flights? All visitors on the tourist visa-waiver scheme must apply for an ACR card at day 60 of their stay.

The SRRV visa is complex and 'costs' between $1,500 and $20,000 in (refundable-on-final-departure) bank deposits, which can only be withdrawn for long-term accommodation leases, or condominium purchases. The bonuses are: no limit to stay in PI, free coming and going, no ACR-card & no necessity for an onward travel ticket (have proof to show check-in).

The Special Resident Retiree's Visa (SRRV) program in the Philippines has undergone several changes regarding age eligibility. Initially, applicants aged 35 and above could apply for the SRRV Classic program with higher deposit requirements, ranging from USD 20,000 to USD 50,000 depending on the applicant's situation. However, the current official stance from the Philippine Retirement Authority (PRA) often sets the minimum age at 50 for the SRRV Classic unless the prospective retiree falls under an exception such as the SRRV Courtesy for former Filipino citizens who can be as young as 35. The SRRV Smile program is designed for active and healthy applicants aged 35 years and older, requiring a visa deposit of USD $20,000 in a PRA-accredited bank. For the SRRV Classic program, applicants aged 35 to 49 years old need to deposit USD $50,000, while those aged 50 and above need to deposit USD $10,000 to $20,000.

The SRRV Smile program is designed for active and healthy applicants aged 35 years and older, requiring a visa deposit of USD $20,000 in a PRA-accredited bank. For the SRRV Classic program, applicants aged 35 to 49 years old need to deposit USD $50,000, while those aged 50 and above need to deposit USD $10,000 to $20,000. The SRRV program has attracted a significant number of Chinese retirees. As of the latest updates, 38% of SRRV holders are Chinese, indicating a substantial interest from this demographic.

In summary, while the SRRV program initially allowed younger applicants aged 35 and above, the current focus is more on retirees aged 50 and above, with exceptions for specific categories like the SRRV Smile and Courtesy programs. As of the latest updates, 38% of SRRV holders are Chinese, indicating a substantial interest from this demographic. In summary, while the SRRV program initially allowed younger applicants aged 35 and above, the younger-Chinese (POGO-gambling) deluge has meant the focus is more on retirees aged 50 and above, with exceptions for specific categories like the SRRV Smile and Courtesy programs.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989409]The bonuses are: no limit to stay in PI, free coming and going, no ACR-card & no necessity for an onward travel ticket (have proof to show check-in).

[/QUOTE]And, unlike the Spouse Visa, doesn't require the ongoing grace of your sponsor wife. A SRRV is unaffected by a breakdown of the relationship or divorce.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2989409]............ What benefits do you enjoy presenting it for hotels and domestic flights?..........[/QUOTE]No benefits, I don't care about that part, I just use it as an ID, instead of the passport, I find it more convenient, size wise, and it seems that the staff doesn't try to scam you by seeing that you're not a newbie.

Hi, Returning the Manila for the first time since COVID. I'm sure lots has changed. What are the best apps for meeting women interested in a short term relationship in exchange for my generosity? My sweet spot are the non-pros, semi-pros who are like 7's. I'm going to guess they all have a high noise to signal ratio. Any ideas which one or two are better?

Last time I was there I did ok with just Tinder, I think I tried pinalove as well. I'm sure a lot has changed. BTW I'll be in the Manila area. I might not leave Makati LOL. But I don't want bar girls.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2989696]Hi, Returning the Manila for the first time since COVID. I'm sure lots has changed. What are the best apps for meeting women interested in a short term relationship in exchange for my generosity? My sweet spot are the non-pros, semi-pros who are like 7's. I'm going to guess they all have a high noise to signal ratio. Any ideas which one or two are better?

Last time I was there I did ok with just Tinder, I think I tried pinalove as well. I'm sure a lot has changed. BTW I'll be in the Manila area. I might not leave Makati LOL. But I don't want bar girls.[/QUOTE]Everybody is looking for the same thing, nothing new. Try FB, search "walker" and the area you're interested into.

I reckon there wil be a significant uptick in petty crime with Duterte in the Hague,. Davao? I guess you can keep it now.

Hi Guys,

Well it's been a very accommodating couple of weeks here once again. I know I've added to various other threads, but the summation is probably best left here.

Mixing business and pleasure in the The Phils was made a little more difficult this time around, as there was the issue of emergency dental work being done early on. Which included getting a tooth ripped out in Subic for a fraction of the price you'd get at home. I discovered a BBBJ can ease any pain.

Boracay was another story, and heading there solo in the end, I had repeat visits from a girl who just wanted some money who wanted to get home.

I gave Pina Love a go and it turned out to be great with contacts. There's a lot of fucking about with it, weeding out the old desperate women looking for cash.

Last night in Makati, I met up with one of the younger girls I met from Blow Row in Angeles last year. We had dinner and then she got on the Red Horse which got a bit messy. Big mistake you may think? Anyway I got her on the back of a "Joy Ride" motorcycle and she survived the trip back to Cavite.

After she left the City Garden hotel in Makati, I went out for a smoke (Generally I don't smoke, but when there's Tanduay involved and 169 piso packets of ciggies at 2 am, anything can happen)\.

So after dismissing the bakla out the front of the hotel, Jo-an asked if I'd like a BBJ and she had ID for the hotel reception.

Well, for 2000 p we had a great time, and there was a lot more than a BBBJ hit and run. She stayed the night and then I tipped her another 1000 p after the wake-up sex the next morning.

So my conclusion is, The Phils always delivers, even if you don't take the typical bar girl route. There's always going to be people saying it isn't like it used to be, but honestly, what places is?

If you don't like the place, or certain cities, then don't do it and complain about it.

Always delivers for me _ Phil.

[QUOTE=KenjiYoshioka;2990119]Take this entire line of questioning either to the porcelain throne or to Stupid Shit in the Philippines.

Don't editorialize. Don't offer your opinions on politics and history. Leave reviews and information about girls and pussy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2990145]There are a lot of mongers fucking those same prostitutes in the USA too. Are you saying there's no cultural bias in the States against them either? You can't talk about those selling ass without talking about those who are buying it. Mongers or "Johns" are looked down upon, especially those like us who travel abroad. We're made out to be creepy monsters or something. And you're not even making any sense! If it's only a small minority that's against it, then why can't the laws making prostitution illegal be overturned if the vast majority are for it then? Isn't that how a democracy works? The truth is that nobody is really trying hard to make prostitution legal in the United States because they don't want to be seen as pushing something that's viewed as morally unacceptable in the culture. So what gives then if so much money is changing hands in the USA between tutes and mongers? Well like a lot of things, Americans are just plain hypocrites!
[/QUOTE]Good post Cane, but KY is correct. It belongs in a different venue than the AC thread, so I'm moving it here to Gen Info.

Thanks, WC (non-management).

I am looking at air fares and am thinking of returning for 59 days to get medical treatment and the odd root and 3 some. As I am getting on in years (70+) my sexual needs are modest and my medical needs are on the up.

My question is this: what is the ideal length of time to stay? Last time, I was worried my house would still be there after 59 days, with winter gales and so on. But it was and I missed a lot of the bitter cold, which is as bad as frying pan Philippines.

As I go easy on the booze and my sexual needs are modest, 59 days seems to push it. I can bring / buy a laptop and do online work during the hot days but that defeats the purpose of travelling. I can stay lionger than 59 days but hard to see the point.

Last time, why style was kinda cramped by having a lady friend but she has reurned to the province. Life is hard on them wioth low wages and trying to get by and send some pesos home. O like them as their needs are modest, have a baby, family etc. Jollibee of course.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2990481]I am looking at air fares and am thinking of returning for 59 days to get medical treatment and the odd root and 3 some. As I am getting on in years (70+) my sexual needs are modest and my medical needs are on the up.

My question is this: what is the ideal length of time to stay? Last time, I was worried my house would still be there after 59 days, with winter gales and so on. But it was and I missed a lot of the bitter cold, which is as bad as frying pan Philippines.

As I go easy on the booze and my sexual needs are modest, 59 days seems to push it. I can bring / buy a laptop and do online work during the hot days but that defeats the purpose of travelling. I can stay lionger than 59 days but hard to see the point.

Last time, why style was kinda cramped by having a lady friend but she has reurned to the province. Life is hard on them wioth low wages and trying to get by and send some pesos home. O like them as their needs are modest, have a baby, family etc. Jollibee of course.[/QUOTE]If I may say so, you are beginning to sound like a crusty old man. Look and sound a little more positive and aim for more positive new adventure.

Personally about 30 days is enough for me. A week in AC then Boracay for 5 days and back to AC for a week. Then 5 days in Alona and back to AC. Sometimes I take a girl with me or not.

Next time I try a break to Vietnam and back to AC.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2990481]I am looking at air fares and am thinking of returning for 59 days to get medical treatment and the odd root and 3 some. As I am getting on in years (70+) my sexual needs are modest and my medical needs are on the up.

My question is this: what is the ideal length of time to stay?[/QUOTE]Do you want to come and travel or stay in one place? When you say you have medical needs, do you mean that you are coming for specific treatment and therefore need to stay close to a specific hospital or are you just less mobile than when you were younger?

If you're physically able, the Philippines is an easy and cheap place to travel around. You could do the island and beaches, the big cities, war history. What ever interested you. If your not looking to bang three times a day, then you could just connect with women as you go, a few days at a time.

If you're moving around, then you could stay longer. If staying in one place, then you could become bored and might want a shorter holiday.

I find the 30+29 days the magic number but I do travel around a lot and am several decades younger than you so mobility isn't a problem for me. I do allow a couple of days for flight changes, cancellations etc so typically keep it to 57 days. This is also short enough that I can pre-book casual lawn mowers, pool cleaners etc at home so I don't come back to too much of a shambles. Remember your day of arrival counts as day 1 not day 0.

Enjoy G.

PS. Each to their own but I wouldn't worry about travelling with someone. I find it more than doubles my costs, limits my spontaneity and basically complicates everything. Much easier to just find someone to drop around within an hour or a day of arrival as needed. I should add that I'm very comfortable with my own company so that may be different for someone who needs to be around others 24/7.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2989787]I reckon there wil be a significant uptick in petty crime with Duterte in the Hague,. Davao? I guess you can keep it now.[/QUOTE]No change in Davao. Dutere family still sound Davao.

Interesting will be the political divide between Marcos and Dutere. It will be some nasty politics ahead.

Prices are up everywhere. I had assumed that the cost for transportation would be higher this trip. A couple of years ago when they changed the terminals from 1 to 3 for international arrivals, everything changed. My options that I saw it were to use the official airport taxi, the fake airport taxi, take a long walk dragging my luggage to get a regular taxi, or use grab. Taking the walk and possibly getting into a sketchy cab did not seem the best idea since I usually arrive with a good amount of cash. Finding the exact pick up point for a grab and then waiting there being constantly pestered by touts wasn't high on my list either. I don't mind paying a higher rate for the official airport cabs as they have to pay a fee to work that location, as long as the price isn't ridiculous. In my mind even if I paid double it was worth the peace of mind, and most importantly my time and sanity. I mean you just paid a huge sum to fly for a day or so, a bit tired, a bit hungry, a bit edgy. If I paid an extra 5 bucks to save myself the anxiety, then to me it is worth it. The official airport taxi stand (if you can find it) is probably the safest bet but it is not always easy to find, and the que (not in customers but time) is super super long. If you are familiar with the PI, then you know how long it takes to be serviced here. The last time I used the official airport taxi, I was 4th in line but took 25 minutes to get me going. You stand in line and watch 1 customer at a time be loaded in and all the talking back and forth, god forbid you are behind a family with a shit load of luggage. Therefore it was the fake airport taxi. These fake airport taxi's look exactly like the official yellow airport taxi's but I don't think they are or maybe they are but don't que for customers at the kiosk, or maybe they are in que, but the wait is so long that they just grab customers at will. Don't really know for sure. In any case all the "fake airport taxi's" have a standard rate, it is 600 pesos. I am not sure if the standard rate is standard for everywhere, but they all say the same thing, that it is a fixed rate of 600 pesos. I was going to malate and the fee was 600 pesos, I did ask if I was going to makati what the fee would be and they replied that it is a fixed rate of 600. I would assume that if I was going to rizal, antipolo or bulacan the rate wouldn't be the same but I did not inquire. In any case 600 pesos if it is in your budget and time is more valuable than a couple of bucks then it is a good option.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2990512].[/QUOTE]At my stage, people slow down to a crawl. I am not at that stage and I saw people in much worse shape in Walking St. It is a long way to go unless I am getting value for money and I don't need too much stress or drama. Medical is just getting overhauls; I find Angeles good for that, teeth cleaning etc. I spent far north of $3000 on it last time, around Christmas. BUt I wil not be get8 ng healthier in the future and the docuitr said that. From here on it is downhill.

Angeles suits me in that when the urge gets me, women are there on tap though, like everyone else, the mechanical nature of it is a bore. , and not a very long one.

I would have no problem picking up an ordinary woan who sees me as a 50%+ meal ticket and I got some offers last time. But Anglees is not as ronantic as, say the Greek islands, Venice or Naples.

A lot of travel does not suit me either, It suits me to sit in Angeles and bone when needed. But 59 days equals a lot of siittng around. And, at my age, I don't have a lot of 59 days left and that is an issue as impiortant sutuff happens back home.

Sr Lancelot made the valid point that he likes talking to the young Pinay hookers, listening to their dreams for the future etc and much prefers it to listening to middle age grumpies back home. Fair enough but younger ladies back home are on differnet wave lengths in all imaginiable ways.

I have pulled women all over Asia but their mates say, why are you with grand the. Ageism is as big a curse as is getting old.

I will probably go for the 59 days.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2990518]Prices are up everywhere. I had assumed that the cost for transportation would be higher this trip. A couple of years ago when they changed the terminals from 1 to 3 for international arrivals, everything changed. My options that I saw it were to use the official airport taxi, the fake airport taxi, take a long walk dragging my luggage to get a regular taxi, or use grab. Taking the walk and possibly getting into a sketchy cab did not seem the best idea since I usually arrive with a good amount of cash. Finding the exact pick up point for a grab and then waiting there being constantly pestered by touts wasn't high on my list either. I don't mind paying a higher rate for the official airport cabs as they have to pay a fee to work that location, as long as the price isn't ridiculous. In my mind even if I paid double it was worth the peace of mind, and most importantly my time and sanity. I mean you just paid a huge sum to fly for a day or so, a bit tired, a bit hungry, a bit edgy. If I paid an extra 5 bucks to save myself the anxiety, then to me it is worth it. The official airport taxi stand (if you can find it) is probably the safest bet but it is not always easy to find, and the que (not in customers but time) is super super long. If you are familiar with the PI, then you know how long it takes to be serviced here. The last time I used the official airport taxi, I was 4th in line but took 25 minutes to get me going. You stand in line and watch 1 customer at a time be loaded in and all the talking back and forth, god forbid you are behind a family with a shit load of luggage. Therefore it was the fake airport taxi. These fake airport taxi's look exactly like the official yellow airport taxi's but I don't think they are or maybe they are but don't que for customers at the kiosk, or maybe they are in que, but the wait is so long that they just grab customers at will. Don't really know for sure. In any case all the "fake airport taxi's" have a standard rate, it is 600 pesos. I am not sure if the standard rate is standard for everywhere, but they all say the same thing, that it is a fixed rate of 600 pesos. I was going to malate and the fee was 600 pesos, I did ask if I was going to makati what the fee would be and they replied that it is a fixed rate of 600. I would assume that if I was going to rizal, antipolo or bulacan the rate wouldn't be the same but I did not inquire. In any case 600 pesos if it is in your budget and time is more valuable than a couple of bucks then it is a good option.[/QUOTE]All that has changed at Terminal 3. Grab and Super Taxi have their own kiosks and exclusive pick up spots. Just line up and order your ride.

Airport White and Yellow taxis do not have long lines now with Grab and Super taxis there now. Just make sure they use their meter.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2990518] I am not sure if the standard rate is standard for everywhere, but they all say the same thing, that it is a fixed rate of 600 pesos. I was going to malate and the fee was 600 pesos, I did ask if I was going to makati what the fee would be and they replied that it is a fixed rate of 600. I would assume that if I was going to rizal, antipolo or bulacan the rate wouldn't be the same but I did not inquire. In any case 600 pesos if it is in your budget and time is more valuable than a couple of bucks then it is a good option.[/QUOTE]I booked a Grab having arrived in T3 and booked as soon as I saw my luggage on the carousel. Got outside to find Grab pickup changed again and had to make my way to a carpark. Fare was 340 into Malate at 6 pm. I think the longest part of the trip was getting out of the carpark. He took the expressway without asking which added 140 p to the fare. Was at my condo at 6.20 pm in peak HR traffic. Pretty good result I thought.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2990509]If I may say so, you are beginning to sound like a crusty old man. Look and sound a little more positive and aim for more positive new adventure.

Personally about 30 days is enough for me. A week in AC then Boracay for 5 days and back to AC for a week. Then 5 days in Alona and back to AC. Sometimes I take a girl with me or not.

Next time I try a break to Vietnam and back to AC.[/QUOTE]I mention Frank Sinatra as he modulated his singing with age. It is a fact as you get older, you wear down. Many old friends pushing up daisies now and exertions show your age. I have done several very strenuous things over the last few years whwere I outshone guys half my age but body parts give out and there is no escape from the ravages of time. I like Angeles as I cang et quick medical overhauls. For me, that is a big plus and, increasingly, a necesary plus.

New adventure is a risk / reward trade off. I was supposed to go on a major through hike next week but my leg has been saying no for 30+ days already. I have footballing friends who now have to drag their legs after them, the knees being kaput.

Right now, I am getting odd jobs done and making a list of more to do. Then, my diary is clear and it looks like 59 days. I don't fancy Borocay but a few bonking raids outside of Angeles might keep the spirits up.

The Angeles expat lot keep thesmselves busy with pub quizzes, golf and the like, but my fear there is the guys in Walking St sitting there watching the world roll by. Here, many retirees hit the bars, drink between 3 and 7 pm, and are dead by 70.

I suppose the down side of Angeles is the bad infrastructure, the heat and the lack of something besides bonking to do. Formerley, I scuba dived, worked out in gyms etc.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2990687]I booked a Grab having arrived in T3 and booked as soon as I saw my luggage on the carousel. Got outside to find Grab pickup changed again and had to make my way to a carpark. Fare was 340 into Malate at 6 pm. I think the longest part of the trip was getting out of the carpark. He took the expressway without asking which added 140 p to the fare. Was at my condo at 6.20 pm in peak HR traffic. Pretty good result I thought.[/QUOTE]Expressway is worth it. Always take the expressway if you can. You probably saved 30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2989202]The information I elided was good and to the point, thouygh the paperwork seems tedious.

You ask who wants to stay in muff land for a continuius 3 years. Many do. I do but I doubt I could hack it at this stage. I look at the losers' videos online and those who settle in and plod along, running small busienss and humouring their lady friends. Of ocurse, folk end up everywhere but the Phils is a palce you want to have your ducks in order or you'd end up nuts or worse. I don't think I could do three years. In a prison, yes but I the funny farm that is the Phils, no.[/QUOTE]True but just do a rotation. Not retired yet but soon and a few buddies do this. We are all from US where we have 4 seasons. When it gets cold around November leave, April maybe May return home. This gives you a nice rotation as allot of things here in summer I enjoy. Golf, working around the house various projects and yard work. After 4 or 5 months at home you will be ready to come back, more than ready. It seems to work best for them, think Ill do the same comments from others who may be doing this would be appreciated.

I have my airline tickets paid for for autumn. I guess I wil have to endure Pinays sucking on my dick. Oh well. What swung it was the alrtnratives or lack thereof. I like thea la carte medical services. Other pklaces want to stiff you from a distance.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2989202]The information I elided was good and to the point, thouygh the paperwork seems tedious.

You ask who wants to stay in muff land for a continuius 3 years. Many do. I do but I doubt I could hack it at this stage. I look at the losers' videos online and those who settle in and plod along, running small busienss and humouring their lady friends. Of ocurse, folk end up everywhere but the Phils is a palce you want to have your ducks in order or you'd end up nuts or worse. I don't think I could do three years. In a prison, yes but I the funny farm that is the Phils, no.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2990997]True but just do a rotation. Not retired yet but soon and a few buddies do this. We are all from US where we have 4 seasons. When it gets cold around November leave, April maybe May return home. This gives you a nice rotation as allot of things here in summer I enjoy. Golf, working around the house various projects and yard work. After 4 or 5 months at home you will be ready to come back, more than ready. It seems to work best for them, think Ill do the same comments from others who may be doing this would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]There are a few different options and permutations.

The obvious one is the pack up, sell everything stateside, cut all ties and then move permanently. The benefits are: lower cost of living; most guys find a partner and start getting laid again and; the all over quality of life is much better than just waiting to die back home. The downsides surprise many. What appears quaint as a visitor can be infuriating after a few years: the noise; the unreliable power, water and services generally; the constant manana attitude; medical services and response times can be a life and death decisions in one's 80's; endless pussy is great when you first arrive but actually becomes monotonous after a while. Jurango's 'losers' also run the considerable risk of losing a house and fortune to what was the love of their life. For a combination of these reasons many, many guys tap out after about five years and head home. Often, this is when they find that selling their major dollar assets and converting them to pesos wasn't such a great idea and that the cost of repatriation is much higher than expected or allowed for. Could you imagine selling your home 5 years ago, spending most of the proceeds, then trying to re-enter the market at today's prices? Many times guys go home completely broke. It's something you never read of nor see in glossy YouTube videos.

Coming on a roster is easy to organise. Philippines visas, while not as friendly as they were are still relatively low hassle, especially for repeated stays of a couple of months several times a years. There is the added cost of multiple flights and short term accommodation but these can be weighed against not buying her a house, supporting families, having kids at 70 etc. As we all get older, timing and destinations can be aligned with medical needs. There are checkups etc that are much better done overseas, some back at home. Some enjoy travel and moving around but some don't. It's an individual preference. Personally, I can travel intermittently for up to 6 months a year but more than that becomes tiresome and a job in itself.

I think the biggest thing is to realise that living is Asia is totally different to visiting.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2991070]There are a few different options and permutations.

The obvious one is the pack up, sell everything stateside, cut all ties and then move permanently. The benefits are: lower cost of living; most guys find a partner and start getting laid again and; the all over quality of life is much better than just waiting to die back home. The downsides surprise many. What appears quaint as a visitor can be infuriating after a few years: the noise; the unreliable power, water and services generally; the constant manana attitude; medical services and response times can be a life and death decisions in one's 80's; endless pussy is great when you first arrive but actually becomes monotonous after a while. Jurango's 'losers' also run the considerable risk of losing a house and fortune to what was the love of their life. For a combination of these reasons many, many guys tap out after about five years and head home. Often, this is when they find that selling their major dollar assets and converting them to pesos wasn't such a great idea and that the cost of repatriation is much higher than expected or allowed for. Could you imagine selling your home 5 years ago, spending most of the proceeds, then trying to re-enter the market at today's prices? Many times guys go home completely broke. It's something you never read of nor see in glossy YouTube videos.

Coming on a roster is easy to organise. Philippines visas, while not as friendly as they were are still relatively low hassle, especially for repeated stays of a couple of months several times a years. There is the added cost of multiple flights and short term accommodation but these can be weighed against not buying her a house, supporting families, having kids at 70 etc. As we all get older, timing and destinations can be aligned with medical needs. There are checkups etc that are much better done overseas, some back at home. Some enjoy travel and moving around but some don't. It's an individual preference. Personally, I can travel intermittently for up to 6 months a year but more than that becomes tiresome and a job in itself.

I think the biggest thing is to realise that living is Asia is totally different to visiting.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I did that, and so far in my 4th year I don't regret it a bit, actually I'm "scarred" of the reverse, when I have to go back "home", there is nothing for me there, is expensive, some things are more complicated than PH, the only joy I have is seeing my friends.

The alternative, was to continue to work until death, being invisible, expired. Even if I die tomorrow because of some medical emergency malpractice 3rd world bullshit, I won't regret it a bit, because here you feel alive, and that's more important than leaving in safety in USA, but dying in comfort at a slow precalculated rate.

Accurate and insightful report.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2991070]endless pussy is great when you first arrive but actually becomes monotonous after a while. [/QUOTE]Speak for yourself!

Kidding aside, this does happen to me. Couple of times a year I either cut way back on my normal schedule, or eliminate it completely for a few weeks. One of the positives of this place is that it puts you in the driver's seat (usually) on when / where. Those in P-prison rarely have such an option. One can stop, then pick right back up at anytime here.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2991070]I think the biggest thing is to realise that living is Asia is totally different to visiting.[/QUOTE]Have noticed that Covid was a breaking point for ISG threads here in Phils (and possibly elsewhere). Prior to covid, most of our posts were regarding short-term tourists coming to Phils. Tourists asked questions, old guard answered tourist questions or offered insights (Burgos, AC, LAC, Cebu mostly), and solid field reports showed up more often.

During Covid, some A-hole here posted a ton of BS regarding Grab, ECQ, and MECQ, Alert levels, vaccines, rapid tests, face masks, and face shields. He seemed to get laid a lot. F*cker.

Post Covid, fewer tourists returned to Phils than pre-covid, and more expats living here seem to have moved into the ISG neighborhood. Fewer solid FR's. Now we discuss where to get our teeth cleaned.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2991231]........

Post Covid, fewer tourists returned to Phils than pre-covid, and more expats living here seem to have moved into the ISG neighborhood. Fewer solid FR's. .........[/QUOTE]The Philippines Government didn't made the early visits after the scamdemic to easy, quarantine, certificates and tests, and so much bullshit and misinformation, that you didn't really knew where and what to look for. Most of the Latin America was a step ahead of the rest of the world, Mexico being the leader. When the covid test was needed to return to the USA, in the Cancun airport they were just touching your nostrils with an ordinary q-tip, then going behind a curtain, trowing the q-tip in the trash, and printing you a negative test result for about $20. Good business.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2991148]I did that, and so far in my 4th year I don't regret it a bit, actually I'm "scarred" of the reverse, when I have to go back "home", there is nothing for me there, is expensive, some things are more complicated than PH, the only joy I have is seeing my friends.

The alternative, was to continue to work until death, being invisible, expired. Even if I die tomorrow because of some medical emergency malpractice 3rd world bullshit, I won't regret it a bit, because here you feel alive, and that's more important than leaving in safety in USA, but dying in comfort at a slow precalculated rate.[/QUOTE]After living away, the sticker shock is very real. For me it's not the big ticket items, it's the things that were ridiculously cheap but are no longer available: $2 taxi fares; $5 meals; weekends away for $100 etc.

Again, this is very true. Most prefer to die on their feet vs live on their knees.

Enjoy. G.

Old and Ugly makes some interesting points, as does Goferring. I would like to know how Old and Ugly puts in his days when he is not in the saddle; even cowboys need their downtime Fact is, for most, the Philippines is a struggle for survival and one must fit into that.

Gofering is like Sir Lancelot as he crosses his ts and dots his is. Keeping the home front in order is important; rampant crime is a factor, one amongst many.

I find Angeles good for teeth cleaning, medical and more,. In my case, doctors have told me to have them cleaned more often. Being there for two months gives me that luxury and to get my hair cut three times, in a manner fit for a human, not a sheep.

Food is a major issue as every single time, I have to eat Western food so as not to get sick. At home, I make all my own food and love it.

These are not trivial matters; they are practical matters.

Old and Ugly says he prefers to die on his feet, or, in his case, riding high in the saddle, with some buxom wench underneath him. We all have things we want to do and have to do. Bonking random hookers is just one of them and, for me, it lost its novely many moons ago, Now, it is just perfucntory, no different from having my teeth cleaned and, often, a lot less fun.

All of these thigns go to make a happy monger. ;.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2991231]Accurate and insightful report.

Speak for yourself!

Kidding aside, this does happen to me. Couple of times a year I either cut way back on my normal schedule, or eliminate it completely for a few weeks. One of the positives of this place is that it puts you in the driver's seat (usually) on when / where. Those in P-prison rarely have such an option. One can stop, then pick right back up at anytime here.[/QUOTE]My cycle was to alternate about six months in a relationship, six months hookers then rinse and repeat. The relationships were good but with so many temptations I couldn't hold them down forever and the slightest thing would end everything. I broke up with a beautiful great girl because she always wore weird nail polish. You don't see that at home. To be fair, a few broke up with me too. Some after it became evident that we weren't going to get married, others because I'm a Cheap Charlie and a better offer came along. Regardless, lots of great memories.

G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2991311]Old and Ugly makes some interesting points, as does Goferring. I would like to know how Old and Ugly puts in his days when he is not in the saddle; even cowboys need their downtime Fact is, for most, the Philippines is a struggle for survival and one must fit into that.[/QUOTE]Without speaking for Sir Ugly, it's like any retirement: you have to have interests and friends outside of work or in our case, bars and girls. There is nothing worse than walking into a social event only to find a bunch of old mechanics still talking about rebuilding engines or old foreigners holding up a bar and moaning into their beers. Get out and do shit. There is a lot to do in the Philippines. Beaches, golf, sports, natural beauty, social meet ups. If all else fails, it's $20 to go to another island for a weekend or $80 to go to another country.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2991311]We all have things we want to do and have to do. Bonking random hookers is just one of them and, for me, it lost its novely many moons ago, Now, it is just perfucntory, no different from having my teeth cleaned and, often, a lot less fun.[/QUOTE]What's the contact details for your dentist? 😜.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2991339]Without speaking for Sir Ugly, it's like any retirement: you have to have interests and friends outside of work or in our case, bars and girls..Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]What do those long timers do? I have sen retired Ossie militry chrge the bars for happy hour drinking, many of them with pathetic, little side jobs selling caskes etc. There are Europeans with small businesses thereto keep their wives happy and themselves busy. Golf and table quizzes are swapping a scoial life here for a lesser one there. Expats / retirees have to keep themselves busy in SE Asia, but with what? Of coruse, everyone is different but maybe someoen wil come up woth an idea that sparks me.

I could go to the provinces nad sponsor a sari sari store but, in more sober moments, fuck that.

I am currently busy with a range of projects. Would be nice if beaches and broads could entice me like Sirens of old. One man's poison etc.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2991345]What do those long timers do? I have sen retired Ossie militry chrge the bars for happy hour drinking, many of them with pathetic, little side jobs selling caskes etc. There are Europeans with small businesses thereto keep their wives happy and themselves busy. Golf and table quizzes are swapping a scoial life here for a lesser one there. Expats / retirees have to keep themselves busy in SE Asia, but with what? Of coruse, everyone is different but maybe someoen wil come up woth an idea that sparks me.

I could go to the provinces nad sponsor a sari sari store but, in more sober moments, fuck that.

I am currently busy with a range of projects. Would be nice if beaches and broads could entice me like Sirens of old. One man's poison etc.[/QUOTE]Unless you have extensive experience already, don't even think of starting a business. A retired bricklayer rarely takes the restaurant business by storm. Anyway, I retired to relax not manage staff, chase new business and wonder if today is the day that friends and family magically come in to pay their debts.

What to do? It's the same as back home. Find people, places and activities that you enjoy. No one is going to hand you a good time on a plate. Personally, I travel a lot, dive when I can and, occasionally, revel in doing absolutely nothing. Everyone is different but, yes, it does take some effort and perseverance especially after 40 years of others dictating what we do all day.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2991311]Old and Ugly makes some interesting points, as does Goferring. I would like to know how Old and Ugly puts in his days when he is not in the saddle; even cowboys need their downtime Fact is, for most, the Philippines is a struggle for survival and one must fit into that...........................................[/QUOTE]My passions in life has always been pussy, and travel, that's what makes me happy, and I'm just continuing on doing just that. By combining the two of them it becomes interesting and not boring at all. Also I like to read about interesting stuff, but lately with all the advances in the information technology, it seems that the whole world has become dumber instead to smart up. The news are all about politics and "celebrities", no mentions about science, nature, new discoveries, technology, etc. Like it doesn't exist anymore. I have good old friends, I'm talking about guys my age, that we grew up together, played together, fucked for the first time together, partied together, and more, we still very close and all alive, but lately with all the politics and fake news (and mostly because of the wifes), we kind of grew apart ideologically, therefore we avoid discussing politics whenever we see each other, we still do reunions few times a year, and everybody comes together some place in the world, even if some of us are separated by thousands of miles.

Despite all that boredom sets in sometimes, and I'm thinking of doing some sort of business, but as soon as I start putting things together (mentally) I realize that I don't really need all the hassle associated with that, and give up.

I like good food, but if not avail, I'm ease to please, when I stay longer in one place, and I rent an apartment, I do cook, especially in the PH were the food is horrible, and despite being an island, agrarian nation, where stuff grows if you spit a seed from your mouth on the ground when eating a tomato, bell pepper, or watermelon, you can't find veggies or fish in 99% of the places. I never understood this. I'm always in search for western restaurants, and good bread.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2991311]........................................................Old and Ugly says he prefers to die on his feet, or, in his case, riding high in the saddle, with some buxom wench underneath him. We all have things we want to do and have to do. Bonking random hookers is just one of them and, for me, it lost its novely many moons ago, Now, it is just perfucntory, no different from having my teeth cleaned and, often, a lot less fun.

All of these thigns go to make a happy monger. ;.[/QUOTE]Every time I go back to civilization, for a reunion, medical stuff or other matters, always short visits, I'm just like the Vietnam vets that were unable to adapt back to the normal life, and when I see all the bullshit and the fakery and nonsense, I can't wait to return to the PH.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2991405]Also I like to read about interesting stuff, but lately with all the advances in the information technology, it seems that the whole world has become dumber instead to smart up. The news are all about politics and "celebrities", no mentions about science, nature, new discoveries, technology, etc. Like it doesn't exist anymore.[/QUOTE]Did you actually say that? The good part about advances in information technology is that you no longer have to sit around and wait for someone to feed you the news that they want to feed you. You can go online and only read about science, nature, new discoveries, etc without reading stuff about politics and celebrities.

My mom still waits around to watch the 6:00 news. Whenever I am at her house and this happens, I ask why she would waste 30 minutes watching this at 6 pm when she could have read it all online in 3 minutes at 2 pm. Old habits die hard.

Some good deep philosophical discussions going on here in the last few days. I haven't seen them until just now, because, sadly, I am a slave to the man still and my commute is long. Hopefully this will end in the next few years. In the meantime, TV is so good now, that I've been able to keep it together through the incredible level of entertainment offered to me weekly. I would encourage everyone to check out the Sam Rockwell monologue on the latest episode of White Lotus. It is heavy and disturbing. Or is it? What are the differences between ethics and morality?

[QUOTE=FuriousGeorge;2991440]I would encourage everyone to check out the Sam Rockwell monologue on the latest episode of White Lotus. [b]It is heavy and disturbing. Or is it?[/b] What are the differences between ethics and morality?[/QUOTE]Stunningly deep, 4-minute excerpt from White Lotus*, referencing mongering. Yikes. We've mentioned before (and recently) about not being able to tell folks back home what life is like in-country, and here is a wild example. Not for the feint of heart.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso[/URL]

* Never seen White Lotus until today. Besides FG, thanks to another board member for bringing this to my attention today.

It really is stunningly deep. And it also sums up what White Lotus is all about. People who are seemingly without problems seeking some kind of solace and peace and their place in the world. Most of these people are broken in some way. I've had this discussion with friends. Is the Sam Rockwell character a bad person? There are indications that he is, but is this monologue indicative of such? Either way, regarding the show, each season is fantastically entertaining and this season is particularly good.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2991442]Stunningly deep, 4-minute excerpt from White Lotus*, referencing mongering. Yikes. We've mentioned before (and recently) about not being able to tell folks back home what life is like in-country, and here is a wild example. Not for the feint of heart.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso[/URL]

* Never seen White Lotus until today. Besides FG, thanks to another board member for bringing this to my attention today.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2991442]Not for the feint of heart.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSITUpElxso[/URL]

* Never seen White Lotus until today. Besides FG, thanks to another board member for bringing this to my attention today.[/QUOTE]When he sent it to me I clicked it off when he started talking about ladyboys. You have to be a serious actor to act it out as he did. I could not even listen to it.

So I got back from the PH a couple of weeks ago and I stayed there for about 2 months.

I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her. For the entire lengt of my trip we have been chatting. She came with me to one of the islands and I think we spend about 2 weeks physically together. Some of the nights I didn't have to pay her and it felt like she was my GF.

Now I'm back home and we are still talking and Video calling and wanting to see each other again. I'm trying to have her come visit me and I'll go back to her soon.

It feels as if we are in a long distance relationship but she is still working. I don't want to send her money at this stage to make her stop.

However I find it super difficult knowing she is still working at the bars and meeting other men. I'm trying to be supportive about it but I can't sleep when she is working.

Does anybody have a good experience or know of good experience where dating a BG goes as planned and she could become my GF or am I being naive?

Thanks for the insights.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2991405]My passions in life has always been pussy, and travel, that's what makes me happy, and I'm just continuing on doing just that. By combining the two of them it becomes interesting and not boring at all. Also I like to read about interesting stuff, but lately with all the advances in the information technology, it seems that the whole world has become dumber instead to smart up. The news are all about politics and "celebrities", no mentions about science, nature, new discoveries, technology, etc. Like it doesn't exist anymore.

Every time I go back to civilization, for a reunion, medical stuff or other matters, always short visits, I'm just like the Vietnam vets that were unable to adapt back to the normal life, and when I see all the bullshit and the fakery and nonsense, I can't wait to return to the PH.[/QUOTE]The legend of Ugly.

Sums it up perfectly.

Nothing more to be said.

_Phil.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2991499]So I got back from the PH a couple of weeks ago and I stayed there for about 2 months.

I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her. For the entire lengt of my trip we have been chatting. She came with me to one of the islands and I think we spend about 2 weeks physically together. Some of the nights I didn't have to pay her and it felt like she was my GF.

Now I'm back home and we are still talking and Video calling and wanting to see each other again. I'm trying to have her come visit me and I'll go back to her soon.

It feels as if we are in a long distance relationship but she is still working. I don't want to send her money at this stage to make her stop.

However I find it super difficult knowing she is still working at the bars and meeting other men. I'm trying to be supportive about it but I can't sleep when she is working..[/QUOTE]A bargirl. She's messaging and video chatting with other men that she also has on the hook. Sounds like it's only a matter of time before you become one of her Western Union Boyfriends. You have to admit that she seems to be a seasoned pro that knows all the right moves and what to say. It's hard to give advice to someone that's "whipped". One thing I will advise. If you are genuinely looking for a girlfriend / wife, find a Province girl or one that is not in the profession of sleeping with multiple men per day. One thing that you will never ever forget about or get out of your head is her history.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2991499]I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her.[/QUOTE]Where you have written BG, erase that and replace it with the word prostitute and read your story again to figure out how much sense it makes.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991418]Did you actually say that? The good part about advances in information technology is that you no longer have to sit around and wait for someone to feed you the news that they want to feed you. You can go online and only read about science, nature, new discoveries, etc without reading stuff about politics and celebrities.

My mom still waits around to watch the 6:00 news. Whenever I am at her house and this happens, I ask why she would waste 30 minutes watching this at 6 pm when she could have read it all online in 3 minutes at 2 pm. Old habits die hard.[/QUOTE]No, no, no news on tv, I stopped doing that 20 years ago, when I realized that's all bullshit, I'm talking about on line reading. It still scarce, with lots of fake things.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2991499]So I got back from the PH a couple of weeks ago and I stayed there for about 2 months.

I met a BG in manila and we had a great time. I immediately felt like I was falling for her. For the entire lengt of my trip we have been chatting. She came with me to one of the islands and I think we spend about 2 weeks physically together. Some of the nights I didn't have to pay her and it felt like she was my GF.

Now I'm back home and we are still talking and Video calling and wanting to see each other again. I'm trying to have her come visit me and I'll go back to her soon.

It feels as if we are in a long distance relationship but she is still working. I don't want to send her money at this stage to make her stop.

However I find it super difficult knowing she is still working at the bars and meeting other men. I'm trying to be supportive about it but I can't sleep when she is working.

Does anybody have a good experience or know of good experience where dating a BG goes as planned and she could become my GF or am I being naive?

Thanks for the insights.[/QUOTE]Everything is possible, she may be looking for a way out of that life, you may not care about her past, most wifes had been somebody's else women before, and not out of necessity like a BG, but by choice. All that said the chance of a happy relationship with one of them is minimal, but not impossible, I would say less than 10%. If you do take the risk, plan ahead and have contingency plans ready to be activated. Personally I would never get sentimentally involved with one, it's too prone to failure, and is possible that beside the bar customers that she needs to fuck for money in order to survive she may have a few guys in your situation on the back burner, most of this girls are naturals when comes on praying on men. Even if you are in a dark place right now, do not make rush decisions, think it over. If you still blinded by "love" and decide against all better judgement to do it, then take her away from AC or wherever she works, and have a few months test drive, when you monitor her activities, acting like you're stupid and blind. Not easy, but will save you from later surprises.

[QUOTE=Instigator23;2991499]

Does anybody have a good experience or know of good experience where dating a BG goes as planned and she could become my GF or am I being naive?

Thanks for the insights.[/QUOTE]Sure, I know a couple of examples of bar girls marrying and settling down to be suburban soccer moms. But I also know hundreds of examples where it spiralled out of control and caused the guy a lot of grief and money.

What are your plans when you bring her stateside and she misses her old party lifestyle, the constant flow of money, being the center of attention, that she regards micro shorts and a tube top as formal dress appropriate for anywhere? What about when your friends or other guys in town notice her particular skill set. She will try to hide her past but it always comes out and is very noticeable.

Do you want all the downside hassle just because she is nice to you and is a good lay when there are so many others without her baggage?

There are literally thousands of available girls in the Philippines. Many are very sweet where the question wouldn't even come up. Why would you even take the risk??

[QUOTE=Goferring;2991572]Sure, I know a couple of examples of bar girls marrying and settling down to be suburban soccer moms. But I also know hundreds of examples where it spiralled out of control and caused the guy a lot of grief and money.

What are your plans when you bring her stateside and she misses her old party lifestyle, the constant flow of money, being the center of attention, that she regards micro shorts and a tube top as formal dress appropriate for anywhere? What about when your friends or other guys in town notice her particular skill set. She will try to hide her past but it always comes out and is very noticeable.

Do you want all the downside hassle just because she is nice to you and is a good lay when there are so many others without her baggage?

There are literally thousands of available girls in the Philippines. Many are very sweet where the question wouldn't even come up. Why would you even take the risk??[/QUOTE]That second paragraph is a big No No No!. Never ever take them out of the Matrix even if she is a virgin from some deep dark province and never seen a foreigner before. They are many horror stories about this onlineThe west culture is a cancer that will infect them. Now that being said as long as you stay there, yeah it can be ok. I've done this a couple times as most girls want to leave the bar, very few truly want to sleep with muliple men, women are just not wired that way. Are there true hard core prostitutes' that just love the money, sure, but you'll be able to tell those types in short order. I had a couple pulled them out of bars and everything was fine and they said thank God that was not for me. But. Hehe a few guys were still in their phones and I lost them both to guys who finally retired there. Can't blame them, good for them. I cannot be there all the time but they could. But yes it can work, bars do not make them trashy women as most just do it out of necessity.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991466]When he sent it to me I clicked it off when he started talking about ladyboys. You have to be a serious actor to act it out as he did. I could not even listen to it.

[/QUOTE]HaHaHa. True. His buddy just sitting there with his mouth open. Like WTF!. He is a good actor too loved him in "Justified"But I doubt many of us go over there and have those thoughts. That is some creepy shit, becoming a homosexual because you get bored screwing all those women. Good scene but people here watching that show thinking we become that living there or traveling there are sadly mistaken.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2991418]My mom still waits around to watch the 6:00 news. Whenever I am at her house and this happens, I ask why she would waste 30 minutes watching this at 6 pm when she could have read it all online in 3 minutes at 2 pm. Old habits die hard.[/QUOTE]Goferring and Old & Ugly made some incisiive poitns, the one about the lost Vietnam vets being an excellent one. Hello John Rambo. There was a best seller in England a few decades back about an ex Colonel Blimp colonial chap who did it all in Kenya, the Kyber Pass etc, shooting tigers, elephants etc and ended up tending a rose garden in Sussex.

You could learn things from your mommy as she has a routine. Does her stuff, listens to the news, does more stuff. We could all do with a well thought out routine. That is the issue for me.

Logging out of ISG today, this ad came up on the bottom of the page (first pic). Get your boner pills, get your Doxy / PREP.

Clicking on it took me to the boner sachets. Seven sachets, 100 MG each vitamin V, $15 USD ($2 per sachet). Not sure of delivery costs or time.

I recently had bad experiences with Grab cars being half-full of the drivers' junk, leaving little room for suitcases or passengers. Then booked a 6-seater and a small saloon car turned up. Later, the app actually booked a ride I was setting up for arrival, whilst on an inter-city bus approaching Manila -- without clicking on 'Standard Car' or 'Saver Car'. Likely caused by Internet glitches and the bumpy road, but it cost me P50 to cancel and Grab's subsequent customer service is a total ZERO!

Brave AI found the following alternatives to Grab. Would seasoned visitors stick with them, despite their faults, or use an alternative below? There are also several companies running white, supposedly-metered taxis, which can be ordered by phone.

Angkas: Known for providing motorcycle taxi services, Angkas is a popular choice for short distances and avoiding traffic congestion.

JoyRide: This app offers a range of transportation options including private cars and motorcycles, catering to various travel needs.

OWTO: Provides a variety of transportation services, including car rentals and private car services, making it a versatile option for travelers.

TokTok: TokTok is another ride-hailing app that offers both car and motorcycle services, providing flexible and affordable transportation options.

EPickMeUp: This app focuses on providing safe and reliable transportation services, with an emphasis on customer satisfaction.

Go Lag: Go Lag is another option for ride-hailing services in the Philippines, offering both car and motorcycle rides.

These apps provide various transportation options to enhance urban transport in the Philippines, similar to what Grab offers.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2993212] get your Doxy / PREP.
[/QUOTE]The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?

I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.

[QUOTE=Charlies4;2993975]The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?

I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cdc.gov/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Charlies4;2993975]The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?

I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.[/QUOTE]Find description and dosage information here:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Charlies4;2993975]The ads mentions three pills. Doxycycline, prep, azithromycin. Can you please explain the pills usage and personal experience?

I do know the basics but would like to know views on being safe even while barebacking the filipinas.[/QUOTE]Doxy and zithro are antibiotics. PrEP is an antiviral for preventing HIV transmission. There are previous posts from the fellas regarding these. In the upper-right corner of ISG web pages is an ADVANCED SEARCH function; please use that to find posts containing those words (or just Google it).

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2993995]Doxy and zithro are antibiotics. PrEP is an antiviral for preventing HIV transmission.[/QUOTE]HIV, Covid, AIDS and viruses in general are all part of the Rockefeller medical-mafia myth ... in order to sell their ultimately-harmful, petrochemical-based drugs, create propaganda-based 'plandemics' and inject population-controlling nanotech through 'vaccines'.

In the 19th century, pure gum spirits of turpentine from pine trees were used as an effective cure-all; mentioned in the Merck manual of 1899, and used by native Americans.

Also look at chlorine dioxide / MMS / CDS / Jim Humble -- as a general, pathogen cleanse and detox aid. A German friend told me he used it to cure his drippy-dick (likely chlamydia) in Bangkok. Not pleasant to take but very safe. That was what Trump's, cryptic, Covid 'bleach remedy' reference of 2021 was about: a political parrot, squawking a few truths.

[QUOTE=Trevor2522;2994040]HIV, Covid, AIDS and viruses in general are all part of the Rockefeller medical-mafia myth ... in order to sell their ultimately-harmful, petrochemical-based drugs, create propaganda-based 'plandemics' and inject population-controlling nanotech through 'vaccines'.

In the 19th century, pure gum spirits of turpentine from pine trees were used as an effective cure-all; mentioned in the Merck manual of 1899, and used by native Americans.

Also look at chlorine dioxide / MMS / CDS / Jim Humble -- as a general, pathogen cleanse and detox aid. A German friend told me he used it to cure his drippy-dick (likely chlamydia) in Bangkok. Not pleasant to take but very safe. That was what Trump's, cryptic, Covid 'bleach remedy' reference of 2021 was about: a political parrot, squawking a few truths.[/QUOTE]Soaking one's marshmallow in laundry grade Clorox bleach seems like a painful way to cure the drips from a chlamydia dick.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2994200]Soaking one's marshmallow in laundry grade Clorox bleach seems like a painful way to cure the drips from a chlamydia dick.[/QUOTE]Chlorine dioxide / MMS / CDS is taken orally. Not a pleasant smell, but it works, and would be my preference if infected with anything. I buy from mmstabs dot com: 'Easymms' ... $19.99 for 6, plus shipping from Ireland or South Africa. Activate with acetic acid or, in an emergency, lime juice. eBay dot com sells as 'Water Treatment Drops' (sodium chlorite, NaClO2). YouTube / various articles will explain how to mix and take. From Brave AI :

Activating sodium chlorite with acetic acid produces chlorine dioxide (ClO2), a potent and useful oxidizing agent. This process involves the reaction of sodium chlorite with an acid, such as acetic acid, to generate chlorine dioxide gas. The reaction requires a combination of a base (organic acid like acetic acid) and an activator (sodium chlorite) to produce free chlorine dioxide. Chlorine dioxide is widely used in water treatment and as an antimicrobial agent in various applications, e.g. cleaning fruit/veg. It is effective across a broad pH range and has been shown to be more powerful than chlorine, with fewer harmful by-products when reacting with organics. When sodium chlorite is mixed with acetic acid, the solution should be prepared on-site due to the instability of chlorine dioxide. The reaction typically requires specific conditions, such as the appropriate concentration and pH level, to ensure the efficient production of chlorine dioxide. Organic acids like acetic acid can produce chlorine dioxide solutions that are less affected by peptone load and more stable than those produced with inorganic acids. This can enhance the antimicrobial efficacy of the chlorine dioxide generated.

Hello all. Planning my first trip to SEA. Trip will be 6-7 weeks. I am flying into MNL (yea, I know, but it's the only direct flight from US). I plan to stay a week in the phils, then fly to Vietnam for a week, then Thailand for a while, then back to the Phils for a week or two before returning home. Might consider flying to Jakarta for a few days if I get bored in Thailand, just becaue it seems to be popular with folks here. A couple of questions for those who have been around the block a few times:

- For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ETDS every time, and possibly a visa of some sort?

- For Vietnam, I will have to apply for an e-visa. Are there any other hidden requirements I need to know about?

- For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct?

- For Indonesia, a visa on arrival is granted for short stays, correct? I will have onward tickets and accommodations ready for all of the above. Any feedback is appreciated.

Reference: [URL]https://singlemanforum.com/t/sea-visit.8022/[/URL].

[QUOTE=RandoGuy;2996642]

- For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ETDS every time, and possibly a visa of some sort? NEED NEW ONE FOR EACH ENTRY.

- For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct? JUST ARRIVE AT AIRPORT. NOTHING NEEDED IN ADVANCE.

Reference: [URL]https://singlemanforum.com/t/sea-visit.8022/[/URL].[/QUOTE]See answers in CAPs.

[QUOTE=RandoGuy;2996642]For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ?ETDS? every time, and possibly a visa of some sort[/QUOTE][URL]https://etravel.gov.ph[/URL] up to 72 hours prior to arrival & departure. It goes into the system; I printed it out but they didn't look. Same with onward air ticket: only your last check-in looks, in case they have to pay to fly you back. You can extend in the Philippines online (once) for 29 days. It's called 'visa-waiver'. Each return you get 30 days. Miraculously, it can be extended to 3 years as a tourist, within the country, but the authorities are clamping down on that old, 1940, US-imperial law, and pushing long-stayers towards getting proper visas. American-English rules, but don't let that trick you into thinking it is not still a third-world country.

[QUOTE=RandoGuy;2996642]For Vietnam, I will have to apply for an e-visa. Are there any other hidden requirements I need to know about?[/QUOTE]No; just follow the rules. Hope you're young because the hotties are quite ageist. Watch out for pubic hairs in your sweet-and-sour pork! Or was it public hairs? No; definitely pubic (1992)!

[QUOTE]For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct?[/QUOTE]TDAC starts 1st May 2025. They have threatened to reduce their visa-waivers to 30 days but can't make up their minds when. Even so, will still be possible to extend in-country, for 30 days, at an immigration office. British-English is more prevalent. Be careful crossing: they drive on the left; Indonesia also.

[QUOTE]For Indonesia, a visa on arrival is granted for short stays, correct? I will have onward tickets and accommodations ready for all of the above. Any feedback is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Same, 30-day and ticketing entry rule. Have a nice satay! Former Dutch colony but, like Thailand, English is widely understood. Car = mobil; fridge = kulkas; mobile/cellular phone = ponsel/telepon seluler.

Excellent grand-tour; some dudes settle in one country without comparing it to the others, which I find strange.

[QUOTE=RandoGuy;2996642]Hello all. Planning my first trip to SEA. Trip will be 6-7 weeks. I am flying into MNL (yea, I know, but it's the only direct flight from US). I plan to stay a week in the phils, then fly to Vietnam for a week, then Thailand for a while, then back to the Phils for a week or two before returning home. Might consider flying to Jakarta for a few days if I get bored in Thailand, just becaue it seems to be popular with folks here. A couple of questions for those who have been around the block a few times:

- For the phils, I only need to complete ETDS a few days before and that is it, correct? There should be no problem with coming and going to other SEA nations, so long as I do not stay more than a total of 30 days in the phils combined? Or will the 'in and out' privileges require a ETDS every time, and possibly a visa of some sort?

- For Vietnam, I will have to apply for an e-visa. Are there any other hidden requirements I need to know about?

- For Thailand, I only need to complete the TDAC, and will get visa on entry for up to 60 days. Is this correct?

- For Indonesia, a visa on arrival is granted for short stays, correct? I will have onward tickets and accommodations ready for all of the above. Any feedback is appreciated.

Reference: [URL]https://singlemanforum.com/t/sea-visit.8022/[/URL].[/QUOTE]What Trevor said. Here are a few minor additions.

For <30 day stays, all the countries mentioned have very easy visa processes. Just have everything ready a few days in advance in case of online crashed etc. VND has made expensive corrections to mistaken applications a new revenue stream so double check everything on your application. Reversing first / middle / lastnames is a common one.

You won't get bored in Thailand. Of your list, if you need or want to squeeze in Jakarta, I'd drop Vietnam. Having said that Vietnam has a lot more culturally than Jakarta but Jakarta has the girls. You pick your priority. Stay in Jakarta and skip Bali unless you like partying with drunken Aussies and $300 hoes. Another option, not on your list, would be Cambodia. It has both girls and sites to see

I normally recommend that Asia is not a place for planning everything to the nth degree but, in your case, a week or so isn't a long time in each new to you city so do your research and have a pretty good idea of what you want to do and see.

Sounds like a great holiday. G.