Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1670455]Yes, she is becoming quite popular and a celebrity as well. Her pics and those of a few others are making a splash on FB. However, she still needs to pay rent and a few other things, and her earnings from modeling are probably not there yet. I had no problem scheduling a session with her this past December, and she is still a sweet girl. The modeling and celebrity status have not changed her yet.[/QUOTE]Agree she is still sweet. She has a friend who I think is even better looking in my humble opinion and they work well together. I like her but in a my perfect world she would have natural. Even if she did go with with silicone, I wish she stayed more proportionate. She went a size too large for her frame.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1670592]Agree she is still sweet. She has a friend who I think is even better looking in my humble opinion [/QUOTE]Yuliana? If so, I've had her three separate times already. Her body is nice; her face, no so much. Definitely one of those "you looked hotter on facebook" cases. She has also been in the game far too long and has started to become jaded. First time was a rush job. When I told her about it she said she'd make up for it (broad was in a rush to get to that birthday party Steve from Liquid Lounge put on for the monger who asked for the party but never showed up, LOL). And she absolutely did make up for it on the next trip I saw her, which is why I had put her back on my repeat session. But the third time I saw her she was all business again. Not funking with her again. Too many young, fresh chicas who have not become jaded to be worried about chicas past their prime.

Yamii has come along way. When I saw her hanging at the mansion back in 2012 on my first trip, she was a skinny, skinny broad, which is why I never did anything with her. Boyd said she got that way from doing too much coke with her then gal pal Julietha Valencia (Julietha is still a skinny bag of bones. Yuck). They both used to stay in that room on the bottom floor near the pool at the second mansion house up the hill. Yamii looks much healthier now.

Yamil is very overrated. Celebrity she is not. I had a session with her last January, and when we did doggy style. The smell was horrid. Think sanitation bad. Now, maybe that was just that day, but I heard the same complaint by others. Her pussy has turned sour. When you smoke a lot, don't take care of yourself and sleep around, these things tend to happen. Anyways, she is definitely available but don't expect much. My session with her was the low point of all my girls last year. Now with that being said, she still did try, but that smell was just a mood killer.

[QUOTE=CMartinez;1669926]Can anyone recommend some independent / FB girls?

Any recent experiences with Yamii Marin? She is on FB and looks pretty damn hot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Culture;1670653]Yamil is very overrated. Celebrity she is not. I had a session with her last January, and when we did doggy style. The smell was horrid. Think sanitation bad. Now, maybe that was just that day, but I heard the same complaint by others. Her pussy has turned sour. When you smoke a lot, don't take care of yourself and sleep around, these things tend to happen. Anyways, she is definitely available but don't expect much. My session with her was the low point of all my girls last year. Now with that being said, she still did try, but that smell was just a mood killer.[/QUOTE]Yep, you are like the 2nd or 3rd person to have said the same thing on this forum. It's enough of a warning for me to want to (continue) to keep my distance, LOL!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1670604]Yuliana? If so, I've had her three separate times already. Her body is nice; her face, no so much. Definitely one of those "you looked hotter on facebook" cases. She has also been in the game far too long and has started to become jaded. First time was a rush job. When I told her about it she said she'd make up for it (broad was in a rush to get to that birthday party Steve from Liquid Lounge put on for the monger who asked for the party but never showed up, LOL). And she absolutely did make up for it on the next trip I saw her, which is why I had put her back on my repeat session. But the third time I saw her she was all business again. Not funking with her again. Too many young, fresh chicas who have not become jaded to be worried about chicas past their prime.

Yamii has come along way. When I saw her hanging at the mansion back in 2012 on my first trip, she was a skinny, skinny broad, which is why I never did anything with her. Boyd said she got that way from doing too much coke with her then gal pal Julietha Valencia (Julietha is still a skinny bag of bones. Yuck). They both used to stay in that room on the bottom floor near the pool at the second mansion house up the hill. Yamii looks much healthier now.[/QUOTE]Have been with both girls multiple times. Agreed that Yuliana is not the best looking girl floating around but her body is great. In my experience, I have never had the smell issue with Yamii (although I am not a big fan of her fake breasts) and have never been rushed by Yuliana -- that said as with everything, everyone's experience is different.

Regards,

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1670852]Yep, you are like the 2nd or 3rd person to have said the same thing on this forum. It's enough of a warning for me to want to (continue) to keep my distance, LOL![/QUOTE]Never been with Yami but heard nothing but positive things. Not really my style but I have a friend with similar tastes to mine who swears by her service and attitude.

The smell thing, I mean a lot of these girls are like a service station for cock. Not surprising that they are not so fresh and so fresh and clean (c) Andre 3000.

Some of the girls at the MPs, WHEW, just don't get close. A girl who can maintain her hygiene at a high level is very underrated IMHO.

I have been to Medellin many times, most often basing out of Mansion. I am very familiar with Centro scene. My next trip I will have an apartment near Parque Lleras. I have often eaten there, but I have never explored chica pickup options. I am 55+yrs and speak a little Spanish. Which bars in Lleras would most likely have Prepagos who I would recognize as such. Any Lleras info would be appreciated. Thank you!

Finally you have hit up Medellin my good brother Mr E I have been telling you about that city for years. I had a good run visiting Medellin 2008-2011 (16 x) during that time frame until I became bored with it after doing just about everything from non-pros to pros. Medellin is one of the most underrated mongering destinations in my book.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1669985]I came in this morning from Bogota. My wingman's flight arrived from Panama 10 minutes after. I have been to many cities in Colombia over the 9 years that I have been coming but this is my first time in Medellin. Me and my wingman are the same type of mongers (we met in 2003 in Rio) so I have been waiting for him to come show me the ropes because I didn't want to reinvent the wheel.

We went outside of international arrivals and hopped on the green and white mini bus to Maracaibo. I was 8600 pesos (a taxi would have been 55 K) and took 1 hour 10 minutes to reach the last stop. When we got off we paid the driver and he got our luggage out of the back. We then walked a block to our hotel. We are actually staying at a love motel downtown, but we are paying by the day for jacuzzi rooms. 40 k pesos each per day.

We have been hitting casas since we arrived. There are countless casas around here, even one next door to our hotel. As soon as you walk out there are guys coming from everywhere giving you the card for their casa. We have collected quite a few but have only visited a couple of those. For the most part this guy walks down the street and looks around and says that has to be one. Let's go in. Sure enough, each place that he says has happened to be a casa. All of them except 1 has been 35 K for 30 minutes and 55 K for 1 hour. One had a special 2 girls for 40 minutes for 60 K. The one we sessioned at first was the most expensive. 37 K for 30 minutes or if you see the girls and do not take one then you have to by a drink for 2 K.

In over 100 countries these have to be the best women that I have ever seen in a fuckhouse. And there are so many of them. I don't see how anyone makes any money around here. We are on our way to New Life so I can check that out, then we will come back to the chica bars that open at 7 down from where we are staying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CMartinez;1669926]Can anyone recommend some independent / FB girls?

Any recent experiences with Yamii Marin? She is on FB and looks pretty damn hot.[/QUOTE]These chicks are off the beaten path but well worth the extra effort to get with IMHO.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/katherin.b.arias?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/luzdelly.vanegas?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lizeth.d.gomez.5?pnref=friends.search[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/yesica.bahamon?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all[/URL]

The last one I haven't done yet. So if someone gets with her. Let me know how it goes.

There are countless stories of problems with simply picking up an unknown girl and taking her back to your place.

Within the past month I am aware of at least one instance in which it sounds like two newbies met some smoking hot.

Paisas in P Lleras, brought them back to their apt. And then were promptly drugged by what sounds like a heavy dose.

Of Scopalamine. Google "The Devils Breath in Colombia. ".

The guys were out of it for 24-36 hours from what I hear and the girls took everything.

Passports.

Money.

Etc.

Colombia is a wonderful country and Medellin is awesome but there are dangers for everyone including both newbies.

As well as those of us who are more experienced.

My advice.

Stick with girls you know and take them out to dinner or to clubs.

You will have a great time and its much more safe.

Remember in Colombia if you show the Papaya. The Papaya gets cut.

Have fun and stay safe.

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Of course I have had my share of violence, con artists-girls, etc since I have lived in Latin America for a total of 3 years since 2005.

But the frequency have been low. Often drunk, often taking taxis night time, more or less every day when I have had my active periods, maybe a total of 1000 days living in the major cities in Argentina, Uruguay, Peru and Colombia. 3 times I have lost money in Latin America, one time it was scary but not expensive, one time it was just a con artist fooling a typical drunk gringo.

It seems girls are much more hit by robbery, almost all I know have been robbed, although it has been a clich by the girls to say that on Internet, to have an excuse to ask for money, but some must have been serious, considering social circumstances.

If the mayority have told the truth, it's means that the majority of females are being robbed of their cell phones and handbags intermittently.

Latin America have higher cime and murder rates than Africa!

As a Medellin-"gringo" I would be careful. There are for example an App that informs you all about the taxi you are calling for; name, plates, GPS-view of where the taxi are etc. Maybe some ISGs reading this here have it and can share the info, I forgot the details.

In the cellphones there are direct number to the police etc. I have been bad checking this / it never happens to me, I fix it tomorrow /. Police maybe really be helpful, even you think not. They helped me on La 70 one time, picking up the scumbag travestis that stole my cellphone. The police on light and terrain going motorcycles gives them capacity to follow the bad guys almost everywhere!

It's part of the search. Looking for and meeting hot girls are like lottery, you will meet bad girls and you will meet good girls and learn to how to keep them!

I have met beautiful girls that have been serious, not so beautiful ones that have been con artists. It's part of their nature. Some girls just are like that, rationality is very primitive, since they live a very primitive life.

The worst method is to bring home girls from "Bello". A paisa friend, now living in Miami told me, what I should had understood by now about robbery-risks. Bringing them home to my apartment in Laureles was = "economical suicide attempt", according to him.

If not robbed by a Scopolamine-girl, they will make the experience into a nightmare insted of the Dream-sex you thoguht you was going to have; twice the girls have started to demanding more money during the act it self, one time while performing BBBJ, LOL.

How to just invite girls that you know of? Just must have a network, and that is hard to create since the average gringo stay like 1-2-3 weeks and that is to little time to do it yourself.

Con artists have assumed or just acted like I was a total newbie, trying stupid tricks, sometimes it works since it comes as a total surprise. The phrase "es costumbre en Colombia", "it's comstume in Colombia" is often used to justify the behaviour, a behavoiur that has rightlously given Colombia it's bad reputation this country so well deserves. Was I to critical now? Yes. And no. For men seeking love and romance, Colombia is the perfect place to loose $$$ and what was still left of your selfconfidence! Every year, I estamte that at least 1000 guys have a breakdown after a trip to Colombia with Amolatina and such organized almost crminal enterprise that so freqently advertize on the internet and that we read little about here on ISG, but there must be many, whos experiences we really need to take part of, to get the full picture about Gringos & Colombianas.

Stefany-famous from the Mansion- finally understood that we could be friends and stopped trying to stealing my money. She understood that it would pay of much better having a horney and generous gringo friend. A logic that seems obvious, but are rarely encountered among the chicks we socialize, sexualize with. But her case shows that it is possible to make a breakthrough. She was very relieved when she could leave that fake "soy tu novia"-blaha acting and got that it was OK just to hang out and have sex now and then.

When considering risks and statistics, how high is the percentage per day of being robbed in some way in Medellin?

Of the 1000 murders in Medellin 2012,4 was committed in Laureles, 0 in Poblado! And Laureles with all it's parts are a huge area. So it's a low risk, if you are just being in the right place, even at night.

The Scopolamine factor is a real threat though, and very scary! And there seems to be little to do once you have been exposed to it. You can escape it seems, but most times you fall into another world where you do everything that the robber wants, giving codes to ATM etc, and the next day you can't remember anything and therefore have a lot smaller chance of getting money from your ensurance!

I have always lived in Medellin long periods, like 2-6 months thus the Mansion is not bearable economically speaking, but it can be cheaper since you take a low risk. Also New Life or even Louthron is economical, compared to be stripped of everything!

Considering this, I must be better helping my fellows on ISG with contacts, even if I have done a lot, I can always improve.

There are now a very cute girl, Johana, that I met on CC. She says on Skype; "I clean your apartment for food and I don't want suggestions", hmm Is she for real? She is Very Pretty! I thoguht her to be honest before entering this discussion, but now I think twice. It's so easy commiting the same mistake over and over again. You always hope it will be a pleasant meeting and many times it is so really, especially in Medellin! But my friend, who is "operadora del edificio", told me that she and a friend had a business idea home maid service; but had to let i t go since potential clients thought the risk of being robbed was too high, and the possibility of the police catching a person is very small since a cedula give to weak informaion about where a person lives, works , have done etc. This situation is a factor that holds back a lot of social and economical activity.

If I would be in Medellin now, I would make my stupid mistakes over and over again, but doesn't mean I can give good advices to other ISGs.

Go to New Life. There you ill find talent at a low price. Find a few favorites. You meet a girl that is sexy and a good lover, then invite her to your apartment / hotel. It should have a fair probability to work. Much better option than Facebook if you ask me!

One period, when Energy was filled with almost model girls, as hot as they can be for those todays 130 k COP, I had 2 girls suggesting the we should become novios! Encounraged by this luck, I even asked the very hottest one at Energy and the second time we met, she opend up a lot. But this was my first time in Medellin and I thought it was to good to be true, but it can happen to a lot of many ISGs since I'm average in both age and looks, but tall, white, blue eyed men are a still a rare comodity in Medellin. Hence, I did not take my chance with not one of these 3 girls, which I have always regretted, but it was a short , important chapter that has given me enormous apetite to travel and re-travel to Medellin!

It feels like a lottery. You can win and you do, and you can loose, and you do, many things will happen, but sure of that!

But not to talk to bad about the "barrio" girls. I have a met a MILF selling candy in the street. She came home to me whenever I wanted for 50-80 pesos, bareback sex! She lives almost in the frontline in Comuna 13 so she is used to a ruff lifestyle, but she is perfectly calm, no attempt ever to rob me or steal anything. A lot is about the personality.

Use cash. Bring your creditcard / s but have not more than US $ or 500-1000 available. Then transfer daily via your Internetbank. That way the amount you can be tricked of is very limited if a girl see your pin and steal your card.

Then culture is very different compared to anglo-saxon WASP societies. Acting on IMPULSE is normal here, especially towards gringos, it's socially accepted. They say and do things, not only the young girls, but many others, like they never would dare to a colombian! But, maybe a paradox, taxidrivers and restaurant personell are almost 100% serious, and that is culture quality, since it with them the major part of the daily economical transfers are done!

But New Life, Energy, the clubs, it gerts boring. I want to attack in broad daylight! I would do it just for the surprise effect. In the everyday life, and therein, as the bard would tell us lies the rub; it's free and it can work, and you can do it everywhere, without limits! Surprise-girls give such much added value since such sex is what we dream of all the time, but maybe can encounter one-two times in a lifetime, while going to New Life, The Mansion, that we all can do as long as we have $US 1000 extra to spend a week.

Daytime-Fishing is the highest form of Hedeonistic rationality, but the most risky one security-wise, if you bring the girls to your home and not to a lovemotel, but many are more keen to go to a motel, since it's more safe.

Jack Sparrow.

Your best post yet in my opinion.

Definitely a Master's level philosophical summation of Medellin, and can be applied to the 'life and girls' in other Latin cities as well.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1673525]Jack Sparrow.

Your best post yet in my opinion.

Definitely a Master's level philosophical summation of Medellin, and can be applied to the 'life and girls' in other Latin cities as well.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. Great post, great read!

Nice post my friend. Keep up the good work. Check your PM I sent few days ago.

I just finished staying with Jake and had a very nice time. He has a large apartment in a well run complex in Poblado where you will meet other gringos and which has a relaxed vibe. Each night I had Jake bring over one of his girls. They were young and beautiful and after the deed, I took them out dancing and drinking as they were great company and look great on your arm. Only one girl didn't want to go out after we did it. As I hadn't spent any time in Centro, Jake took me down there and we spent a few hours walking around and chatting with chicas here and there. A real slice of life and very enjoyable. As I simply wanted to jet in and be catered to without having to do any work, Jake's setup fit the bill perfectly. Two thumbs up!

Does anyone have any experience with this Swinger / sex club. They seem to offer a variety of weekly events aimed and singles and couples??

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1673340][URL]http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/worlds-scariest-drug/[/URL]

I have always lived in Medellin long periods, like 2-6 months thus the Mansion is not bearable economically speaking, but it can be cheaper since you take a low risk.

.[/QUOTE]I have seen old gringos staying at the Mansion on there monthly rate of $1350. They mostly do short time with the girls at 150,000 cop.

And they rarely go out with the girls so their expenses are low.

Met one old timer that buys cheap electronics on ebay and offers the girls a cheap tablet that cost 50 bucks instead of the 150 K cop.

Most of the old farts at the Mansion. Are in their mid to late sixties. Bang one girl a day and stay on a budget of between 4 and 5 thousand a month.

The one that trades cheap electronics for sex probably spends less than that.

[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1674103]I have seen old gringos staying at the Mansion on there monthly rate of $1350. They mostly do short time with the girls at 150,000 cop.

And they rarely go out with the girls so their expenses are low.

Met one old timer that buys cheap electronics on ebay and offers the girls a cheap tablet that cost 50 bucks instead of the 150 K cop.

Most of the old farts at the Mansion. Are in their mid to late sixties. Bang one girl a day and stay on a budget of between 4 and 5 thousand a month.

The one that trades cheap electronics for sex probably spends less than that.[/QUOTE]No need to disparage the older members in our mongering community. Those "old farts" may be the ones to pull your ass out of the fire one day.

Most of the mongers that have given my guidance over the years are twice, sometimes thrice my age. They have a lot of valuable wisdom to impart on others if you are willing to listen.

[QUOTE=CaliHentai;1674103]I have seen old gringos staying at the Mansion on there monthly rate of $1350. They mostly do short time with the girls at 150,000 cop.

And they rarely go out with the girls so their expenses are low.

Met one old timer that buys cheap electronics on ebay and offers the girls a cheap tablet that cost 50 bucks instead of the 150 K cop.

Most of the old farts at the Mansion. Are in their mid to late sixties. Bang one girl a day and stay on a budget of between 4 and 5 thousand a month.

The one that trades cheap electronics for sex probably spends less than that.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a nice way to spend one's retirement, at least for part of the year. Maybe one day, I will be lucky enough to enjoy some of my golden years in this way. I would think it would be more economical to spend split one's time between the Mansion, and and an apartment. That way, you get the benefits of the Mansion, but also the benefit of a cheaper apartment rental the rest of the time.

I only wonder what a retiree does to occupy one's time in Medellin when one is done banging those one or two hotties a day? I mean, I think I would go crazy there after the newness wears off. Sure, I could go to Spanish school there for 6 months to become fluent, but what would I do after that? Fortunately for me, I still have a lot of time to figure out all out. Still, I wonder what these guys do with all the rest of their day in Medellin day after day once they've been there awhile?

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1673340]It's part of the search. Looking for and meeting hot girls are like lottery, you will meet bad girls and you will meet good girls and learn to how to keep them!

If not robbed by a Scopolamine-girl, they will make the experience into a nightmare insted of the Dream-sex you thoguht you was going to have; twice the girls have started to demanding more money during the act it self, one time while performing BBBJ, LOL.

The Scopolamine factor is a real threat though, and very scary! And there seems to be little to do once you have been exposed to it. You can escape it seems, but most times you fall into another world where you do everything that the robber wants, giving codes to ATM etc, and the next day you can't remember anything and therefore have a lot smaller chance of getting money from your ensurance!

But New Life, Energy, the clubs, it gerts boring. I want to attack in broad daylight! I would do it just for the surprise effect. In the everyday life, and therein, as the bard would tell us lies the rub; it's free and it can work, and you can do it everywhere, without limits! Surprise-girls give such much added value since such sex is what we dream of all the time, but maybe can encounter one-two times in a lifetime, while going to New Life, The Mansion, that we all can do as long as we have $US 1000 extra to spend a week.

Daytime-Fishing is the highest form of Hedeonistic rationality, but the most risky one security-wise, if you bring the girls to your home and not to a lovemotel, but many are more keen to go to a motel, since it's more safe.[/QUOTE]Nice post, Jack Sparrow.

IMO the quality of foreigner traveling to Medellin currently is more naive and unaware than in the past. The original travelers to any unknown location are always better. They are respectful toward the culture, attempting to blend in. As the last herd arrives with shorts and flip flops, the original foreigners move on to another place. This is a poor trade as the locals get a stronger whiff of the crap from the First World.

I have never been robbed or drugged or had anything happen to me in 10 years of travel in Latin America. Part of this is luck and part of this is using my brain and blending in. I know of 3 locals who have been drugged by scopolomine in Medellin, but don't know of any foreigners. Over the next few months I expect to be involved in some crazy shit in Medellin so maybe my luck will run out. I have been walking around El Centro drunk and stoned recently. I hear of these stories in El Centro regarding the danger. I am an easier target than ever. Also, I only have between basic to intermediate Spanish. I am still waiting for these things to happen that I hear about. I am not too proud to write it here if something happens. We shall see.

I had sex with about 500 girls in CR and 150+ in Medellin. In CR I was like a machine, going through my mental rolodex of things to organize so the hookers would not be able steal anything. In Medellin, I barely pay attention. I have left my wallet on the counter with money in it to test the girls. Nothing. Ever. Almost all of the girls that I invite over are somewhat intimidated by my apartment. Most of the thieves one will encounter are from the high end places or the internet and the low end places. I don't swim in these pools. I also do not consider El Centro casas the low end as many of the best girls in these places are very sweet and trustworthy.

Continuing with the El Centro casas, I still like them but am becoming bored also. I am looking to have 2-3 girls in El Centro and this is it. I have not contacted one girl that I know since I have been in Medellin. I could open the floodgates to referrals and threesomes but I am motivated to do things on my own right now and with different girls. My sex drive is lower than ever but considering that I am going to be here a bunch going forward I am motivated to go searching for quality. Quality to me are the barrio girls 18-20 who have freaky hot, skinny bodies and don't work in El Centro or are overly involved with the internet. These girls IMO are not easy to pickup and require some Spanish and persistence. I do everything on foot or in taxis, meeting girls face to face. I usually don't even have sex with them upon the first meeting. Usually just a soda and an exchange of numbers. Just need to give the seeds I have planted a few days to grow and this is it. As you said this is where the judgement call comes in on whether to bring them to your apartment or to a love motel. Love motels in El Centro are $7-8 for 2-3 hours.

When I call these girls, they are normally bored in their houses with nothing to do. I enjoy meeting them for lunch in their barrios. These girls are not university students. These girls are poor and uneducated. I try to give them advice but I can only suggest money management as these girls have no futures in the working world. Many of these girls have trouble doing very simple things. The body, essence, and attitude turns me on though. All they want to hear are sweet nothings and want some money. With these girls there are no fantasies or I love yous. Just friends with benefits having sex and spending time together. I already have one. Just need 2-3 more and I will be good.

What I have written above, with regards to picking up really hot girls off the street, is advanced mongering and IMO is a waste of time and can be dangerous for you guys on short trips and for those who don't know the city well. I met a BM recently who just spent a week in Medellin. He stayed at The Mayo and had sex there. He also had sex in the Centro casas, Energy, went to a high end party in El Poblado, and picked up a sweet street girl in El Centro for 40 k BBBJ plus 17 k for the room. Pretty impressive week IMO. He was focused on his goals with the girls and, in turn, received great experiences. Maybe he will write a report.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1674256]No need to disparage the older members in our mongering community. Those "old farts" may be the ones to pull your ass out of the fire one day.

Most of the mongers that have given my guidance over the years are twice, sometimes thrice my age. They have a lot of valuable wisdom to impart on others if you are willing to listen.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree. I know Cali Hentai and he ain't getting any younger. In a few short years he'll be in the "old farts" category. Man boobs and all.

Been in Medellin for a bit, back to Bogota tomorrow then back to the states. Had some wild times at La Isla. Though expensive, I highly recommend.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1673340][URL]http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/worlds-scariest-drug/[/URL][/QUOTE]I'm so tired of hearing people spreading these bullshit scare stories.

Have you or anybody you know ever been drugged by scolpamine? Has anybody else on this forum? Mongers would be most susceptible to this yet I have never heard of this happening to anybody.

I've lived in El Centro for 2 months and got to know many of the girls that work there quite well, some of which became my friends. I've asked all of them at some point if they have ever heard of this drug and none of them knew what I was talking about.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1674256]No need to disparage the older members in our mongering community. Those "old farts" may be the ones to pull your ass out of the fire one day.

Most of the mongers that have given my guidance over the years are twice, sometimes thrice my age. They have a lot of valuable wisdom to impart on others if you are willing to listen.[/QUOTE]I agree, most of these dudes are very cool and chill.

I enjoy my conversations with them and have learned a lot, not just about Colombia but worlwide info, and more than just about the hunt.

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1674289]Been in Medellin for a bit, back to Bogota tomorrow then back to the states. Had some wild times at La Isla. Though expensive, I highly recommend.[/QUOTE]Last time I was at La Isla I was with a few guys and they were asking for some sort of bottle minimum. Do you know if you go there solo, can you get away with buying solo drinks or a half bottle or something? The cover and prices were pretty fair considering the quality, other than the ridiculous bottle charge.

[QUOTE=Chilller;1674319]I'm so tired of hearing people spreading these bullshit scare stories.

Have you or anybody you know ever been drugged by scolpamine? Has anybody else on this forum? Mongers would be most susceptible to this yet I have never heard of this happening to anybody.

I've lived in El Centro for 2 months and got to know many of the girls that work there quite well, some of which became my friends. I've asked all of them at some point if they have ever heard of this drug and none of them knew what I was talking about.[/QUOTE]My best friend's uncle died from being scoped, it is real and it is very dangerous. If the girls you are talking to say they haven't heard of it watch out because they are lying to you, and FYI they aren't your friends. I belong to a Colombian Facebook group and a few guys got scoped when they took a bunch of girls to San Andres, I don't know the guys personally but I know that there are several members here that know them. Most of the "stories" that I have seen on this site aren't bullshit scare stories sir, they are usually pretty factual and are posted to help others. You have 5 posts to your name and you are calling out people, come on now.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1674281]

I have never been robbed or drugged or had anything happen to me in 10 years of travel in Latin America. Part of this is luck and part of this is using my brain and blending in. I know of 3 locals who have been drugged by scopolomine in Medellin, but don't know of any foreigners. Over the next few months I expect to be involved in some crazy shit in Medellin so maybe my luck will run out. I have been walking around El Centro drunk and stoned recently. I hear of these stories in El Centro regarding the danger. I am an easier target than ever. Also, I only have between basic to intermediate Spanish. I am still waiting for these things to happen that I hear about. I am not too proud to write it here if something happens. We shall see.

[/QUOTE]You are an absolute riot dude!! I love reading your posts!

I too have spent an inordinate amount of time in El Centro. In the day mostly but also at night. I have never had a whiff of a problem in the day, and I'm talking lot's and lot's of time. I've read the scopalmine stories, and I do think about it from time to time as it would take away my power, which is the scary part. Who you are and how you carry yourself, luck and timing has a lot to do with staying out of trouble. Even though I walk around el centro stoned sometimes I'm not acting it. I'm still aware. I find being drunk is way worse. I did have an issue once at night in El centro, but I was very drunk, and I attribute this particular instance to that. However, I've been drunk in too many cities, too late, too many times and always got away with it. Rio and Sao Paulo oh my! This I don't like doing any more. Not in el centro for sure. I love centro in the day. At night it "feels" more dangerous for sure, but I love it also! It's not for everyone.

I had two robbery attempts in El Centro, one successful and one remarkably unsuccessful, in two months, one at dusk (the successful one) and one in broad daylight. Neither time was I drunk, and I've never been successfully robbed anywhere else in the world. This was in 2008. Maybe it's safer now but Colombia is dangerous, always and everywhere, and things are never as they seem.

So let's be careful out there!

[QUOTE=Speculator;1674539]You are an absolute riot dude!! I love reading your posts![/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words, bro. Like you said I walk around stoned by I am not acting it either. I am almost always the one in my group to spot potentially dangerous situations first. I am also very good with Colombians and I know how to encourage them to go with my ideas and on my terms. 95% of time it works. When it doesn't I lower my voice and speak slowly but seriously. I tell that I am not like like the rest of these selfish, lying here in Medellin. I tell they are part of my plan and these are the details. Comprende? Normally I get a "Vamos". If this doesn't work I move on which is rare.

Everyone has been very cool with me on this board and I appreciate it. Even when I first wrote, BMs made kind suggestions regarding looking at dates on stale posts before responding and things like that. I wish people were cooler with other BMs. SavePros and Slam get on me from time to time about things but I appreciate it. Sometimes I drift off and need the rudder for the ship. I always try to bite my tongue with guys who are givers versus guys who are takers. Both of these guys give almost exclusively hence one should go slow IMO in criticizing these guys too much due to their giving nature. I also want to add that I was very depressed during December, when I wrote some lengthy posts. I am not a depressed-type person but everyone has their breaking point and I had reached it. The combination of negative things happening was overwhelming. I can grind through mentally and now I am recovering.

I have been traveling to Medellin for 3 1/2 years and have been a BM since shortly after arriving. I have seen some truly incredible things in Medellin. These things have shocked me to the core and I have never been the same since. All of my experiences have happened while a BM yet I had nowhere to put my stories. I have read very little that resembles some of my extreme experiences.

Well I am smoking pot and have a fever so I will write a quick TR. By the way, I have never written a TR I don't think. Well here goes.

Trips starts out terribly as my bad luck continued. I traveled with my 14 year old cat for the first time. Gave him a small piece of benadryl to calm him. He has an allergic reaction and throws up and is foaming at the mouth. Craziness continued and I made it to Medellin. Upon arriving the craziness continues. Lost my sim with Claro. Their records go back 6 months and for some reason they don't have my info. Lady proceeds to type in my passport with one number incorrect and someone else's info pops up. She proceeds to call a manager because I might be trying to pull something. 2 1/2 hours later everything gets straightened out. My apartment has all types of problems and no washer. The drama continues.

My girlfriend arrives on the second day and stays with me for 3 days. I am still not myself after 5 months in The States, my longest continuous stretch outside Latin America in 10 years. The pain of being without my girlfriend has been overwhelming and I will never do more than 3 months again. I have the sweetest girl and can't imagine living without her in my life. I told her that I have shut off part of my heart to cope with being without her and it will take some time to adjust to her and Medellin. She is sweet and mature and understands. I am very much in love. I talk with regular girls who are way, way prettier and I am not even tempted. This is a good sign that I am deeply in love. I would give up mongering to be with her but I am not feeling the pressure and may never feel it. At some point this might end for me but for the near term future I am still good. My phone never rings because I only allow texts from the working girls. I am very clear with them that I have a girlfriend and no drama will be tolerated. All of them are cool and there is rarely a problem.

I always hit the ground and get laid multiple times in the first few days. I waited a week until I had a few consistent dates with my girl so I could my feelings in the right place. After a week I am getting better. It is time to get out.

I head into El Centro to my pot smoking spot in the back of a casa. The jefe who I have known for 3 years is not there. They block my friends from entering. I have to have a talk with these two jefes who are watching the place. I said I have known the jefe for 3 years. I tell them that I give a 5 mil tip plus buy drinks and bring them clients. They say, no problem. After entering, the group of girls is the best I have seen in looks and attitude. I want to add that I have not had sex in this place in 2 years and enjoy the girls as friends. One girl I am clicking with. I usually just ask for BBBJ and go for BB in the room if this is what I am looking for. I ask her in the waiting room for BB sex and she agrees. Girl is slightly aloof and once in the room she thought I said BBBJ. I hold the session together and she was actually very sweet. Session is very average because I don't feel anything with the condom. This has just started to happen recently and this is not a good sign. Girl was fine and this average performance is on me. My ego is bothered as I am hungry for BB. I tell my friends that I am going to hunt for a girl with less than one month experience and have BB sex within the next two hours and will hunt 20 casas if necessary. On the hunt I go.

Pass through a bunch of casas and find a girl. She has worked there for two weeks. I always ask the jefe this question and then I ask the girl the same question shortly after separately. I ask her if we could smoke in the room. She says there is no way. I pull the jefe aside and asked him if there was a room with a window that I can smoke in. He say there is not. I ask him if I can go outside down the street and smoke with her for 10 minutes. He says no problem. She puts flip flops on and we exit and go to the corner. We smoke some while talking general things Medellin and I find out a bunch of things about her. Back in the room the session goes well and I get BB at no extra charge from the original 20 k BBBJ. I leave satisfied and call it a day.

At this point I have been in Medellin for over a week and need to go in the tougher areas of the north. My girlfriend lives in a very dangerous neighborhood but I am not ready to go there and visit her parents just yet. I beg one of my friends to take me out. I have no excuse to go into any tough neighborhood. He relents and we meet in El Centro and head North into an area just below Santo Domingo near the metro. It is about 6 pm. We hang out at a bar with a good scene of the locals. Pretty girl is sitting near us and we start chatting. She is dressed like a high end prepago and doesn't belong there. She lives in Floresta and says she works for the metro bus system. She says that her father lives in Santo Domingo and she is bored and just wanted to drink some beer. Her story doesn't add up. Very likely an internet prepago. Girl is pretty but I pass. My friend exchanges whatsapp with her. By the way this neighborhood is better than average for safety for The North. People are all around. Not to bad on safety. We wander around and I am smoking pot. We wander up the hill around 9 p. Guy in the street says there is a good restaurant a ways up the hill. Awesome. An excuse to wander further up into the darkness. After eating we wander into a park. Lots of pretty girls but lots of guys also. This is not a safe place to be so we leave. It is now after 10 and we are both a little buzzed and tired. I usually don't drink too much so the combination is hitting me a little. I grab a cab and drop my friend off in El Centro. Time to go home or so I thought. To be continued in Part 2.

After dropping my friend off, I don't want to go home. It is about 11 pm. With no babysitter around I can do some crazy things. I am bored and want to drive around the city. I have about 5 minutes until I reach the highway. I like the taxi driver alot but I need to press him with some very fucking serious questions. The guy totally gets it and he passes my tough radar test. He is a super laid back guy who has been a driver for over 20 years. He tells me he can show me some spots in Bello. He also says there is a good place to meet girls in the daytime about 10 blocks from where we are walking below Santo Domingo. I am not even horny but don't want to go home. We smoke a joint and head on. He heads back near the starting point and shows me the spot. He says that he knows a girl in Santo Domingo. He calls her as we are driving up the hill but he can't get in touch. 90% of the streets we are on we would be able to pickup a girl if one was available. As with my luck, not so simple. We are now driving on a narrow sidewalk. I am in the backseat with my head inside the passenger headrest paying attention. We turn left down another street that is very narrow also. Tough gang members on the corner and in the distance at the other corner. At the middle of the street there are four girls holding their arms together blocking the taxi. The girls are harmless, one trying to talk through the window. The one on the left is smoking hot about 19-20 years old. This street is too hot to stop on, though. I tell him to try to make a quick connection with the hot girl. He says that it is too hot and he keeps moving. Damn it. WTF. He says we can come tomorrow and it will be safer and he knows the spot. I plead with him to go back and relents. I am praying all of the guys will disappear. We pass through again with the same setup. He tries to get her attention but can't stop. We move on.

We head up into Bello and there is a two block street of clubs. My taxi driver knows what I am looking for. A girl with a nice essence, who isn't working at a strip club. He and I are on the same page. We pull up in front these two clubs that are pretty small from the outside. Typical Colombian, aloof and rambling. I tell him what I want very clearly. He seems like a guy that might have something but I don't trust him. My taxi driver tells him that I don't have time for games and I want something quick. I love this guy as we are bonded. He says to park the taxi and come inside. We park and head in. There are about 30 people in the place, half guys and half girls. These girls are amazingly hot, at La Isla level or above. Jackpot? Not so fast. These are regular girls hanging out with their friends. These are upper class circles. I lean into my taxi driver and said "these girls aren't putas?" he clearly shakes his head No. The top 2-3 girls in this place are as good as you can find in Medellin and this is saying something. I tell the guy putas. He shows me 2 but they are not up to par. I tell the guy to forget about the crazy hot girls and show him some examples from the middle level girls who are more than hot enough. He says to come back tomorrow night. We call it a night and head home. Taxi fare 35 k, about $15.

Please guys don't come here and do this crazy stuff. Most of my friends who live here won't even do this stuff. I am a little crazy. Don't be like me, please.

Getting tired and not feeling well. This enough for now but I will write a little more going forward.

[QUOTE=CMartinez;1674451]Last time I was at La Isla I was with a few guys and they were asking for some sort of bottle minimum. Do you know if you go there solo, can you get away with buying solo drinks or a half bottle or something? The cover and prices were pretty fair considering the quality, other than the ridiculous bottle charge.[/QUOTE]The times I went I just bought a half bottle of aguardiente, so no problem there. I was pretty generous with buying girls single drinks though. My waiter was cool as hell, so were the security guys. They treated me like a rock star. And gave me VIP treatment every time I went. Tipping these guys helps alot. The girls were cool, although some were hustling a little bit too much. When that happened I just had one of the security guys give them the boot from my table. Spent a fortune, but that's how I am and had a grand time.

These guys in El centro are professional thugs. They are always looking for preys. Usually these robberies are led and organized by somebody else who are not at the site of robberies.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1674557]I had two robbery attempts in El Centro, one successful and one remarkably unsuccessful, in two months, one at dusk (the successful one) and one in broad daylight. Neither time was I drunk, and I've never been successfully robbed anywhere else in the world. This was in 2008. Maybe it's safer now but Colombia is dangerous, always and everywhere, and things are never as they seem.

So let's be careful out there![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1674469]My best friend's uncle died from being scoped, it is real and it is very dangerous. If the girls you are talking to say they haven't heard of it watch out because they are lying to you, and FYI they aren't your friends. I belong to a Colombian Facebook group and a few guys got scoped when they took a bunch of girls to San Andres, I don't know the guys personally but I know that there are several members here that know them. Most of the "stories" that I have seen on this site aren't bullshit scare stories sir, they are usually pretty factual and are posted to help others. You have 5 posts to your name and you are calling out people, come on now.[/QUOTE]I have also known someone that guy "scoped" in Medellin. And I know someone who had it happen in Rio. Hell I knew a guy from my city (not a monger per se) who was shot and killed in MDE. None of this stops me from visiting these locales, but it certainly makes you pay attention. FWIW, the only place I will not return to is Caracas, Venezuela. Risk is not worth the reward.

Made a run into El Centro. I had my eye on a particular girl. I spoke with her briefly and got a nice feel on a different day. Would have taken her then but wasn't sure if it would go BB or not. I normally don't need BB all of the time and do it only with select girls. I pull her. Another tough one to get BB sex. I did all I could while holding the mood but she wouldn't relent. I told her that I respected her standards and this is a good thing. I tell her, though, it must go BB next time. She says no problem. BBBJ is just great. No terms mentioned. Next, sex is great and I am rock hard. I am not going to cum, though, not even close. This is a terrible sign. I have not had this problem before to this degree. Over the years, I have lost some sensitivity starting about 5 years ago. I also want to add that of the 500 hookers I had sex with in CR, 480 I would say were with condoms. I had friends that were having BB sex a bunch and I never felt inferior to them. This is an inflation that I am paying, not something to brag about! Continuing, sex is connected but I need BB. Great session but lacking in sensitivity. Afterward all I had was 6 - 2 mil notes and a 50 mil note. I give her 12 mil and tell her next time I will give her 30 mil for BB. She smiles, kisses me, and says chow.

I eat some lunch. I go back to the place from the other day where I BB the other girl. The other jefe is there and I explain that I am going to take the girl outside for 10 minutes. The jefe says no problem. She puts her flip flops on and we head out again. We are smoking on the corner of a fork in the road. She is standing against the wall and I am blocking her. Cops are walking up the street but stop halfway. She goes to throw the joint away and I say no and tell her to relax. I am watching, leaning in towards her taking hits off the joint. Cops aren't moving so we continue to smoke. 3 minutes later we head back. In the room she tells me we can't have BB sex again. I told her we have to and offer her 40 k. I gave her 20 k the first time. She relents. Sex is good but it is too active. There is a difference between active and horny IMSO. She wants to come to my place. I live near her since she lives in Belen and attends the university. I tell her that she needs to relax and I want her for 2 hours in my apartment and I need a more connected slower session in my place with at least an hour of sex. She understands. I tell her that I might call her or come back there.

Afterward, I run into a guy on the street who runs a casa for a jefe. We sit on a bench in Parque Botero for an hour and talk. I offer to buy him dinner. About 22 k including drinks. $10 USD. He says to call him and he knows some barrio chicks who don't want to work the casas. Afterward, as we are walking across the square after dinner there is a smoking hot barrio girl walking through the square. I love her essence. She gains almost half block on me. Two Colombians are talking smack toward her. She gets this all day long for sure. I get up next to her and start talking to her. She is completely ignoring me. I press on. She finally lets me close and she has responded to two of my questions? I get her to sit down next to me in a cafe. She is 19 and has an amazing body. Amazing! She is really shy also.

Casa jefe catches up and I tell him that I am good. I tell him that there is no way this girl wants to work in his casa in El Centro. He hears me but continues to sit there. I tell him "por favor. " he continues to sit there. I tell him that I need to have a talk with him outside and say excuse me to the girl. I ask him what he wants. He says a little money. I give him 10 k and he is happy. Nice! This girl has an infant boy maybe 2 years old with her. It isn't hers, it's her sisters. She doesn't want to talk about her sister. Maybe the sister is trying to turn tricks? Who knows? I feed the little boy with the milk bottle. I extract a bunch of info from her over the next 15 minutes. She shows me pictures of her in a bikini and her 25 year old good looking European boyfriend. He is in Ecuador right now. I ask her if she thinks that her good looking boyfriend cheats? She says that she doesn't think so but can't say for sure. Come on, I tell her.

I explain that I have a Paisa girlfriend and we got in a fight and I am lonely and depressed which is not true. We are making a solid connection but sex won't happen today and it doesn't matter. I give her 5 mil for phone minutes and told her I would call her later. We have a nice phone conversation 30 minutes later. She asks me if I want to have sex with her. I told her "obviously but it doesn't matter right now". I tell her that I respect her and her being comfortable with me is my priority. She can come to my apartment, I can meet her in El Centro, I can meet her in her barrio, doesn't matter. Just let me know and I am there. I told her that I respected her boyfriend and I am not like the other selfish foreigners in Medellin. She will have money in her pocket, giving her more independence. It will be discreet also, only talking through whatsapp. Even in my shit state right now, having a fever, I am hot for this girl. I called her this morning and could hear the dysfunctional chaos in the background, which is common for these barrio girls. She says that she can't meet today and I say no problem and that I will call her tomorrow. Just letting the seeds grow a little more. We shall see what happens.

On another note I accidentally send a whatsapp to my girlfriend today that was intended for this girl. It says, "When do you want to meet with me?" OMG, I am such a dumbass! My monger buddies give me shit about these things and I deserve it. I do these incredibly crazy things but screw up with a minor detail when my guard is down and sitting on my couch alone. I had spent the entire day with my girlfriend the day before and had a great time at her parents house. I got a chance to spend time with her kids, who I love to see. They are my friends and I don't talk down to them. Continuing, I told her that the whatsapp message was intended for the guy delivering a washing machine which was actually being delivered. I was quick and fluid. She knows that I am lying and hangs up. This crushes me. I feel so selfish, changing her mood. I call her a little later and explain my situation, pretty honestly. I tell her that I have not had sex in my apartment in the first two weeks of my trip, which is true. I wanted to get my feelings for her in the right place before having sex in my apartment, which is true also. I explain that by having sex with a few other girls occasionally, it takes the edge off. I tell her that I love her. She knows it is the truth. I am trying to hold back from crying and I thank her for her understanding. She speaks with a soft voice, telling me that she loves me, and thanks me for my honesty. She has had my heart in her hand for awhile now, which was not earned easily, and she has a huge impact on my feelings daily.

One last thing. I have never even remotely had a girlfriend in the 700+ girls I had sex with in Latin America. This is the first one for me. I have never been more in love, not even close. There is a line that must be drawn with these hookers, and can't be crossed, or everything becomes jaded. If one eats off the tree in the middle of the garden every day and can't keep a sane mind there will be a loss of esteem. The older guys can handle this hobby much better than the younger guys IMSO. I see plenty of under 50's falling for the wrong girls. I suggest making a commitment to not get into a serious with any of these Paisas until you have at least 6 months of ground time in Medellin.

For you guys out there looking for REAL girlfriends, meet girls at their jobs, face to face! This would be a no brainier if I were looking. At least you will know that she has a work ethic and I find it comfortable meeting girls at their jobs anyway. Also guys if you don't have a least 6 months per year on the ground in the Third World, forget it. At best you will miss her to death. Every other scenario is only worse. Don't fall for these hookers! Just my opinion on this one. Guys, do as you will with it.

As my brother Wilt says with a REAL girlfriend you can't just give them money and shut them up. This is the difference between a slam dunk contest and a five on five basketball game. Big loss of control with the basketball game. Something to think about.

Well that is it for story telling for a while. A dying monger.

VJ

Jeff, you are an adrenaline junkie!! Maybe you got to take up free climbing or something. Haha.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1674664]

This girl has an infant boy maybe 2 years old with her. It isn't hers, it's her sisters. She doesn't want to talk about her sister. Maybe the sister is trying to turn tricks? Who knows? I feed the little boy with the milk bottle. I extract a bunch of info from her over the next 15 minutes. She shows me pictures of her in a bikini and her 25 year old good looking European boyfriend. He is in Ecuador right now. I ask her if she thinks that her good looking boyfriend cheats? She says that she doesn't think so but can't say for sure. Come on, I tell her.


VJ[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing VJ.

I enjoy reading of your adventures and thoughts.

For guys who like to go dance and chat with girls and maybe find a non-pro or semi-pro, can anyone recommend any spots that are good earlier in the week? Wednesday and Thursday especially. I like to start at a discoteca then either end up at a place open late like Fahrenheit, or a strip club, but the few times I've ventured out during the week I haven't found anything really busy.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1674664]Well that is it for story telling for a while. A dying monger.

VJ[/QUOTE]Very nice story VJ. Thanks for sharing. I am curious. Are you a dying monger because you are planning to retire from mongering, planning to settle down and falling in love with the main chick of your story? How do you prevent from not falling in love with some of these great chicks?

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1674918]Very nice story VJ. Thanks for sharing. I am curious. Are you a dying monger because you are planning to retire from mongering, planning to settle down and falling in love with the main chick of your story? How do you prevent from not falling in love with some of these great chicks?[/QUOTE]At some point I might just want to stop having sex with other girls. I don't know. I am still motivated to have a few amiguitas for sure. My girlfriend has never put pressure on me to stop having sex with other girls but I have slowed and slowed.

How have I avoided falling for these hookers? Because I value my self esteem. I am not a child. I am a grown man and I have responsibilities to myself, first and foremost. I can't play games in such an important aspect of my life, pretending with a fantasy. One has to take a look into the future and then ask if the situation has a real possibility of working.

These hookers are not great chicks. They are making bad decisions or have made bad decisions in the past which has put them in this position. There might have been some things out of their control that worked against them and I respect this to some extent. Being a hooker is filled with bad influence and habits. Going to a regular job has so many good things built into it that a women can gain esteem from. If they can improve their skills and become independent, everything is better. And I am not talking about hooker skills.

I get respect from the hookers. I have barrio blood. These hookers have a healthy fear of me. My girlfriend as well. I am the good shepherd. I lift the esteem of the Colombians I interact with, always. I don't encourage these hookers to be better at their jobs or finding more clients. I give them shit for being hookers. I am good at standing on the line between respect and disrespect, without crossing it, with Colombians. The smarter they are, the more shit I give them. The polished pros are beyond reachable so I have no interest in them. All of these girls know that they shouldn't be hookers and by one calling them on it, respect is gained. Hookers are human beings and should be respected in this way IMO. Maybe I have a unique personality and some guys would be uncomfortable with this but this is my stance. For the hookers that have no chance in the real world I encourage them to find better steady dates.

Most guys are dealing with polished pros and these hookers know how to push all the right buttons with the suckers. It is so much better with the unjaded barrio girls. These girls are amazing in bed. This is the difference between observing a lion at a zoo or a lion in Africa. These girls give the right distance and the best sex IMO. I will take the freaky hot barrio hookers over the hot professionals, with their polished hooker qualities, any day. Actually, I will take the average barrio girls over the hot, jaded pros. To each their own. The big negative with the barrio girls is that it can be difficult organizing meeting up. These girls are so disorganized and lazy. How freaking hard is it to stand up, put some clothes on, and get a taxi?

I have been extremely organized in my dealings with these hookers so my girlfriend doesn't see much. Latin women only know what they see as they have been fed bullshit their whole life by these selfish local men. I could be fucking 10 chicks and if my phone doesn't ring I am good. On the other hand if my phone is buzzing all of the time my girlfriend is going to get pissed. I leave my phone out in the open and my girlfriend is welcome to use it if she wants, even though she has her own. I disguise the names of girls so she doesn't know the name of the incoming text. Stephanie could be Steven for example.

I have never been tempted to be in a relationship with any of these hookers. Honestly, my biggest strength is that I haven't valued the companionship of women. For you guys who enjoy the companionship, your job with the distance becomes tougher. I like to hang with them for a little and send them packing. My girlfriend has been different as I enjoy her company. It is so easy being around her because we have good chemistry. I have changed in that I enjoy the company of women a little more as I have gotten older.

When meeting women in the Third World, they have to be sized up as potential hookers or girlfriends. Girlfriends can't be hookers and hookers can't be girlfriends. I meet Paisas who can only be girlfriends often. I don't have space for that, they can't be my hookers, so they are forced to be acquaintances or friends. Hookers can be friends also. These are just my opinions and my personal stance on things.

I have certain things that I keep personal with my girlfriend. For instance, I lay in bed in the spooning position with my girlfriend. Her back is against my chest. I tell her that I am recharging my battery. I won't lay in this position with the hookers. Although the sex is hot with the hookers, the affection given is only to a point. Also taking my girlfriend out into the city is personal to her and I don't do this with the hookers.

The computer has made things so much worse in Medellin IMO. It is our job as men to get sex and not spend too much time in getting it. Women know that if they can get attention and / or money and they don't have to give too much sex they are in a position of strength. Guys are talking with these hookers all day through the internet, some sending money. You tell me who is getting the better of this situation. I do not want to talk with the hookers much when I am not with them.

What is happening in many situations is that guys are spending time exclusively around hookers. Their favorites become girlfriend targets. These guys are unable to be around normal girls. If these guys were ever able to step back and take a good look at things they would say "wtf am I doing". IMO this is a loss of esteem. Some of these situations work out but not many. I have friends in Medellin, that I love like brothers, who are emotionally involved with these hookers. These guys are, at least, being somewhat honest with themselves about the situation. They aren't pussies and know what is going on. They have serious doubts deep inside. They just take it one day at a time knowing they are probably going to be heartbroken in the end.

I have met older guys 60+ who can be with young hookers and see the difference in the relationships in comparison to when they were younger. These guys have certain understandings with these hookers and they can trust them on some level. These hookers can be caretakers and / or will call their families in The States and help them during difficult times. The most important thing is that one is honest with themselves.

IMO some of you guys are getting too serious with your dates. You have a choice. You can treat your dates like women or you can treat them like children. Treat them like women and you will get serious. Treat them like children and you will get fun. I entertain hookers with my computer. Say she likes J Alvarez. I play a 30 minute plus mix of J Alvarez. If she likes video games, great. Say her favorite animal is a dolphin. I play youtube videos of Dolphins. Be serious when it comes to important structural things and playful the rest of the time. A little entertainment, hanging, and sex and then on their way the hookers go.

Guys, good luck will all of your situations with these girls.

VJ

Vegas Jeff,

You are a voice of reason and common sense, and one of the few from all my years on the ISG that actually gets it!

Good luck to ya!

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1675124]At some point I might just want to stop having sex with other girls. I don't know. I am still motivated to have a few amiguitas for sure. My girlfriend has never put pressure on me to stop having sex with other girls but I have slowed and slowed.

How have I avoided falling for these hookers? Because I value my self esteem. I am not a child. I am a grown man and I have responsibilities to myself, first and foremost. I can't play games in such an important aspect of my life, pretending with a fantasy. One has to take a look into the future and then ask if the situation has a real possibility of working.

These hookers are not great chicks. They are making bad decisions or have made bad decisions in the past which has put them in this position. There might have been some things out of their control that worked against them and I respect this to some extent. Being a hooker is filled with bad influence and habits. Going to a regular job has so many good things built into it that a women can gain esteem from. If they can improve their skills and become independent, everything is better. And I am not talking about hooker skills.

VJ[/QUOTE]VJ,

That was a very insightful post. Thanks for sharing and good luck.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1675152]Vegas Jeff,

You are a voice of reason and common sense, and one of the few from all my years on the ISG that actually gets it!

Good luck to ya![/QUOTE]Thank you sir.

I hope some of the seeds that I have planted will bear some fruit as guys will be better at understanding and dealing with their situations with these girls.

Everything your saying Vegas Jeff should be made a sticky! Its the same ole same ole you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. The game has changed in some ways because the instant contact with hookers and communication is so different now. It's just a text away. Just think it was phone only still, you would really be hitting these girls up like that and sharing intimate details of your life's? Hell fucking no! Texting is discreet and effortless. Jeff said it best you are dealing with girls who are making bad decisions and continue to make bad ones.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1675124]
Guys, good luck will all of your situations with these girls.

VJ[/QUOTE]Once again, great read VJ!

I feel the same as you, though I think you caught on quicker than I did, LOL.

I got burned a few times, but I did learn from it, so I'm not a total idiota.

Take care amigo.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1675124]At some point I might just want to stop having sex with other girls. I don't know. I am still motivated to have a few amiguitas for sure. My girlfriend has never put pressure on me to stop having sex with other girls but I have slowed and slowed.

How have I avoided falling for these hookers? Because I value my self esteem. I am not a child. I am a grown man and I have responsibilities to myself, first and foremost. I can't play games in such an important aspect of my life, pretending with a fantasy. One has to take a look into the future and then ask if the situation has a real possibility of working.

These hookers are not great chicks. They are making bad decisions or have made bad decisions in the past which has put them in this position. There might have been some things out of their control that worked against them and I respect this to some extent. Being a hooker is filled with bad influence and habits. Going to a regular job has so many good things built into it that a women can gain esteem from. If they can improve their skills and become independent, everything is better. And I am not talking about hooker skills.

I get respect from the hookers. I have barrio blood. These hookers have a healthy fear of me. My girlfriend as well. I am the good shepherd. I lift the esteem of the Colombians I interact with, always. I don't encourage these hookers to be better at their jobs or finding more clients. I give them shit for being hookers. I am good at standing on the line between respect and disrespect, without crossing it, with Colombians. The smarter they are, the more shit I give them. The polished pros are beyond reachable so I have no interest in them. All of these girls know that they shouldn't be hookers and by one calling them on it, respect is gained. Hookers are human beings and should be respected in this way IMO. Maybe I have a unique personality and some guys would be uncomfortable with this but this is my stance. For the hookers that have no chance in the real world I encourage them to find better steady dates.

Most guys are dealing with polished pros and these hookers know how to push all the right buttons with the suckers. It is so much better with the unjaded barrio girls. These girls are amazing in bed. This is the difference between observing a lion at a zoo or a lion in Africa. These girls give the right distance and the best sex IMO. I will take the freaky hot barrio hookers over the hot professionals, with their polished hooker qualities, any day. Actually, I will take the average barrio girls over the hot, jaded pros. To each their own. The big negative with the barrio girls is that it can be difficult organizing meeting up. These girls are so disorganized and lazy. How freaking hard is it to stand up, put some clothes on, and get a taxi?

I have been extremely organized in my dealings with these hookers so my girlfriend doesn't see much. Latin women only know what they see as they have been fed bullshit their whole life by these selfish local men. I could be fucking 10 chicks and if my phone doesn't ring I am good. On the other hand if my phone is buzzing all of the time my girlfriend is going to get pissed. I leave my phone out in the open and my girlfriend is welcome to use it if she wants, even though she has her own. I disguise the names of girls so she doesn't know the name of the incoming text. Stephanie could be Steven for example.

I have never been tempted to be in a relationship with any of these hookers. Honestly, my biggest strength is that I haven't valued the companionship of women. For you guys who enjoy the companionship, your job with the distance becomes tougher. I like to hang with them for a little and send them packing. My girlfriend has been different as I enjoy her company. It is so easy being around her because we have good chemistry. I have changed in that I enjoy the company of women a little more as I have gotten older.

When meeting women in the Third World, they have to be sized up as potential hookers or girlfriends. Girlfriends can't be hookers and hookers can't be girlfriends. I meet Paisas who can only be girlfriends often. I don't have space for that, they can't be my hookers, so they are forced to be acquaintances or friends. Hookers can be friends also. These are just my opinions and my personal stance on things.

I have certain things that I keep personal with my girlfriend. For instance, I lay in bed in the spooning position with my girlfriend. Her back is against my chest. I tell her that I am recharging my battery. I won't lay in this position with the hookers. Although the sex is hot with the hookers, the affection given is only to a point. Also taking my girlfriend out into the city is personal to her and I don't do this with the hookers.

The computer has made things so much worse in Medellin IMO. It is our job as men to get sex and not spend too much time in getting it. Women know that if they can get attention and / or money and they don't have to give too much sex they are in a position of strength. Guys are talking with these hookers all day through the internet, some sending money. You tell me who is getting the better of this situation. I do not want to talk with the hookers much when I am not with them.

What is happening in many situations is that guys are spending time exclusively around hookers. Their favorites become girlfriend targets. These guys are unable to be around normal girls. If these guys were ever able to step back and take a good look at things they would say "wtf am I doing". IMO this is a loss of esteem. Some of these situations work out but not many. I have friends in Medellin, that I love like brothers, who are emotionally involved with these hookers. These guys are, at least, being somewhat honest with themselves about the situation. They aren't pussies and know what is going on. They have serious doubts deep inside. They just take it one day at a time knowing they are probably going to be heartbroken in the end.

I have met older guys 60+ who can be with young hookers and see the difference in the relationships in comparison to when they were younger. These guys have certain understandings with these hookers and they can trust them on some level. These hookers can be caretakers and / or will call their families in The States and help them during difficult times. The most important thing is that one is honest with themselves.

IMO some of you guys are getting too serious with your dates. You have a choice. You can treat your dates like women or you can treat them like children. Treat them like women and you will get serious. Treat them like children and you will get fun. I entertain hookers with my computer. Say she likes J Alvarez. I play a 30 minute plus mix of J Alvarez. If she likes video games, great. Say her favorite animal is a dolphin. I play youtube videos of Dolphins. Be serious when it comes to important structural things and playful the rest of the time. A little entertainment, hanging, and sex and then on their way the hookers go.

Guys, good luck will all of your situations with these girls.

VJ[/QUOTE]This is Colombia not the usa or another G-8 country, for example I have a chica amiga who works a 12 hour shift in a el centro panaderia for 30 k a day. She is 22 years old with a 6 year old daughter. In Canada my home country she could sit on her ass at home and collect $1200 cad a month. I met her a year ago working in an el centro strip club, but she quit dancing for the far less money in a panaderia 6 months ago. You do not seem to understand working a 12 hour shift for $15,usd and supporting a family. She texted me last week "come back soon I need an ORGASM" her capital letters. I am 60+, she appreciates the donations I give her and the 70 k jeans I buy for her. The old saying "do not be critical until you have walked a few miles in her shoes" sure applies here when gringos start passing their judgement on Colombianas. Only 7 more days until I return to paisalandia. God I love Colombia.

So how does everyone else in the country who aren't hookers live and support a family?

The board is going good with awesome Intel. Alot of philosophy too. Sometimes rather than trying to fully analyze. I recommend just enjoy it.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1675457]This is Colombia not the usa or another G-8 country, for example I have a chica amiga who works a 12 hour shift in a el centro panaderia for 30 k a day. She is 22 years old with a 6 year old daughter. In Canada my home country she could sit on her ass at home and collect $1200 cad a month. I met her a year ago working in an el centro strip club, but she quit dancing for the far less money in a panaderia 6 months ago. You do not seem to understand working a 12 hour shift for $15,usd and supporting a family. She texted me last week "come back soon I need an ORGASM" her capital letters. I am 60+, she appreciates the donations I give her and the 70 k jeans I buy for her. The old saying "do not be critical until you have walked a few miles in her shoes" sure applies here when gringos start passing their judgement on Colombianas. Only 7 more days until I return to paisalandia. God I love Colombia.[/QUOTE]She doesn't need your orgasm. She needs your money. Jajaja.

If I am being so critical of these hookers, why do they view me as someone who cares when I call them out for being one, instead of doing something different? You are defending these girls more then they defend themselves. This is because you feel sorry for them and it is clouding your judgement. This girl you are talking about has never lived in Canada so this has nothing to do with anything. Every person in the world looks one level up from where they are and this girl is no different. If she is dirt poor, she wants one level above dirt poor. People in Africa want shoes, then a bike, then a bike with a motor. On that note, guys, if the girls you are with are comfortable in El Poblado, look out!

You say that she is earning $15/ day. This is almost enough to make her independent, assuming she works full time. If she has any friends or family, she can get by. Your donations alone are enough to fill the shortfall for sure. But you and I both know that your contributions are not enough as there are others paying her for sex currently. And she will take as many P4P situations as she can get, as long as these interactions are up to certain standard. And this is what makes her different than a "normal" girl in that many girls will not accept this regularly.

I am not judging these hookers. I am just identifying them by their colors. And this is what is wrong with the world today. Marketing department budgets have exploded over the past 30 years. Corporations have figured out that people will buy junk as long as it is in a shiny package. I say buy the quality product in the normal box.

Let's not talk about the US or Africa. In Medellin, a girl who grows up with honor and a work ethic does not need to be a hooker. And guess what, even if she has screwed both of these areas up, she will be given multiple chances again and again throughout her life. Most of these hookers have blown the opportunities that have been given to them and will continue to blow more in the future.

I am sorry if all of this critical thinking seems philosophical and hurts your sex drive. I am not sitting on the porch looking up into the heavens and asking "why". I am reasoning and describing the "what". It is nice to see things clearly as this leads toward confidence, not away from it.

I am not trying to rescue these girls. I sleep good a night knowing that I gave them an opportunity to help themselves in some way. How they spend that money is on them not me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1675528]So how does everyone else in the country who aren't hookers live and support a family?[/QUOTE]Many answers to one question.

One is simply that they don't. Another is that even people within one country comes from different backgrounds and therefore got different opportunities.

It depends on luck, kids, the man and so on. Some people get lucky and get a decent paying job, some are being left alone with a kid others keep together, some aren't stupid enough to get a kid as a teen, depends on the support and wealth of the parents.

1. You don't get to judge the people you get in bed with / make business with.

2. You do not get to pass judgement over people who's shoes you haven't walked a mile in.

3. No one likes a hypocrite.

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1674617]The times I went I just bought a half bottle of aguardiente, so no problem there. I was pretty generous with buying girls single drinks though. My waiter was cool as hell, so were the security guys. They treated me like a rock star. And gave me VIP treatment every time I went. Tipping these guys helps alot. The girls were cool, although some were hustling a little bit too much. When that happened I just had one of the security guys give them the boot from my table. Spent a fortune, but that's how I am and had a grand time.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Good info.

Sounds like the girls are hotter, but would you say the service is comparable or better than at Fase II?

[QUOTE=ShooBree;1675737]Many answers to one question.

One is simply that they don't. Another is that even people within one country comes from different backgrounds and therefore got different opportunities.

It depends on luck, kids, the man and so on. Some people get lucky and get a decent paying job, some are being left alone with a kid others keep together, some aren't stupid enough to get a kid as a teen, depends on the support and wealth of the parents.

1. You don't get to judge the people you get in bed with / make business with.

2. You do not get to pass judgement over people who's shoes you haven't walked a mile in.

3. No one likes a hypocrite.[/QUOTE]They don't? Bullshit they don't. I have been in many a "poor" Colombian household and have yet to see anyone starving. In most they eat three times / day. Just because they don't have an air conditioner, a BMW, or any of the other luxuries that you have in your 5 bedroom 4 bath home, does not mean they can't make ends meet or are unable to support a family. Bill Gates and Puff Daddy are probably saying the same things about the majority of us in this group as y'all are saying about the Colombianos.

Jeff knows his shit. You can't miss what you never had. And remember, there are still natives running around the jungles of Colombia and Brazil that have been raising families just fine for hundreds of years. Just because it's not done how you are used to it being done does not mean it can't be and isn't being done or is very difficult to do. Hookers are the same the world around. Lazy biotches. If everybody else can get a regular job, then guess what... Oh I still love them and am glad they are the lazy broads that they are, but that hooker sympathy shit is for suckers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1675826]They don't? Bullshit they don't. I have been in many a "poor" Colombian household and have yet to see anyone starving. In most they eat three times / day. Just because they don't have an air conditioner, a BMW, or any of the other luxuries that you have in your 5 bedroom 4 bath home, does not mean they can't make ends meet or are unable to support a family. Bill Gates and Puff Daddy are probably saying the same things about the majority of us in this group as y'all are saying about the Colombianos.

Jeff knows his shit. You can't miss what you never had. And remember, there are still natives running around the jungles of Colombia and Brazil that have been raising families just fine for hundreds of years. Just because it's not done how you are used to it being done does not mean it can't be and isn't being done or is very difficult to do. Hookers are the same the world around. Lazy biotches. If everybody else can get a regular job, then guess what. Oh I still love them and am glad they are the lazy broads that they are, but that hooker sympathy shit is for suckers.[/QUOTE]Amen brother.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;1675737]Some people get lucky and get a decent paying job[/QUOTE]Yep, getting a decent job is all luck. Education, training, skill sets, intelligence, ambition, and initiative don't have anything to do with it. Most hookers have all of those things in abundance.

Boys we were doing real good for a while now, but on track for another debate where no one will ever get the other side to change their way of thinking.

Myself I have not done a trip in a while, but lets get back to the meat, and potatoes of good intel from serious Mongers.

[QUOTE=CMartinez;1675762]Thanks. Good info.

Sounds like the girls are hotter, but would you say the service is comparable or better than at Fase II?[/QUOTE]I've never been to Fase II, although I've heard from some Colombian men that overall La Isla is better. I love La Isla because its a very large and roomy club, patrons aren't on top of one another. The restroom is very spacious and immaculately clean. My waiter was on top of things the times I was there, and always delivered drinks rapidly. I can't imagine any other club having better service.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1675869]Yep, getting a decent job is all luck. Education, training, skill sets, intelligence, ambition, and initiative don't have anything to do with it. Most hookers have all of those things in abundance.[/QUOTE]Not exactly what I meant. My point was that among people with the same level of education there are still significant differences in income and in too many cases it is because of nepotism, connections and not things one would put on the resume.

For instance, in my country neither the current prime minister or the secretary of state went to college / university.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1675826]They don't? Bullshit they don't. I have been in many a "poor" Colombian household and have yet to see anyone starving. In most they eat three times / day. Just because they don't have an air conditioner, a BMW, or any of the other luxuries that you have in your 5 bedroom 4 bath home, does not mean they can't make ends meet or are unable to support a family. Bill Gates and Puff Daddy are probably saying the same things about the majority of us in this group as y'all are saying about the Colombianos.

Jeff knows his shit. You can't miss what you never had. And remember, there are still natives running around the jungles of Colombia and Brazil that have been raising families just fine for hundreds of years. Just because it's not done how you are used to it being done does not mean it can't be and isn't being done or is very difficult to do. Hookers are the same the world around. Lazy biotches. If everybody else can get a regular job, then guess what... Oh I still love them and am glad they are the lazy broads that they are, but that hooker sympathy shit is for suckers.[/QUOTE]I do have a little sympathy, why? Because that's the kind of person I am and more importantly its cheap. In fact its free.

I respect them just like I respect other persons making a honest living. They are not doing anything wrong, illegal or harming anyone else. If I were to put myself above them it would reflect badly on me since I am a customer. Some people might say that they are young girls being corrupted by fat gringos. I haven't worked a day in my life for less then 18 dollars an hour so why would I be surprised that people don't feel like working for 90 cents an hour.

Regarding the people you have met, you really think that you are the first gringo stepping his foot into their house? Maybe you are, I don't know them. Just out of curiosity, how do you know that they are actually poor compared to the Colombian standard / definition?

[URL]http://colombiareports.co/colombias-minimum-wage-set-4-5-increase-2014/[/URL]

"The agreement affects 54% of Colombians who earn the minimum wage or less. However, a total of 3. 4 million workers do not earn even one half of the minimum wage. ".

And the minimum salary is approx. 270 usd a month.

Regarding not being able to get by;.

"Despite its middle-income country status, 23 million Colombians are poor and 6 million live below the extreme poverty line. "

"below the extreme poverty line" = less then 1,25 usd / day.

[URL]http://www.wfp.org/countries/colombia[/URL]

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1675890]Boys we were doing real good for a while now, but on track for another debate where no one will ever get the other side to change their way of thinking.

Myself I have not done a trip in a while, but lets get back to the meat, and potatoes of good intel from serious Mongers.[/QUOTE]Here are 2 serious subjects!

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1675890]Boys we were doing real good for a while now, but on track for another debate where no one will ever get the other side to change their way of thinking.

Myself I have not done a trip in a while, but lets get back to the meat, and potatoes of good intel from serious Mongers.[/QUOTE]We are all waiting for you to post a trip report, so until then we will entertain ourselves with good discussions like we have been having. If this is a problem with you your trip report will be a great start!

[QUOTE=CMartinez;1675762]Thanks. Good info.

Sounds like the girls are hotter, but would you say the service is comparable or better than at Fase II?[/QUOTE]They are very different places. La Isla looks and feels very much like a high-end strip club in the US (but with even more silicone). The staff are well-dressed and the restrooms are nicely done and you can spend a load of money buying bottles. Fase 2 looks and feels like a Old West Saloon with Hookers.

[QUOTE=Combo;1676029]They are very different places. La Isla looks and feels very much like a high-end strip club in the US (but with even more silicone). The staff are well-dressed and the restrooms are nicely done and you can spend a load of money buying bottles. Fase 2 looks and feels like a Old West Saloon with Hookers.[/QUOTE]To clarify, I've been to both, it's just been awhile.

I preferred Fase II because while La Isla was much nicer inside, it also had way more of a hustle vibe to it. Drinks were expensive, girls didn't seem as friendly, etc.

Plus, I didn't really see a difference in quality of the girls.

Now it sounds like La Isla is significantly better for quality of girls, and I'm just wondering if the attitude of the girls and servers has gotten better as well.

To be honest I'd prefer to just go back to Fase II, but it's hard to pass up la isla if the chicks are really that much better right now.

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1675936]I've never been to Fase II, although I've heard from some Colombian men that overall La Isla is better. I love La Isla because its a very large and roomy club, patrons aren't on top of one another. The restroom is very spacious and immaculately clean. My waiter was on top of things the times I was there, and always delivered drinks rapidly. I can't imagine any other club having better service.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Combo;1676029]They are very different places. La Isla looks and feels very much like a high-end strip club in the US (but with even more silicone). The staff are well-dressed and the restrooms are nicely done and you can spend a load of money buying bottles. Fase 2 looks and feels like a Old West Saloon with Hookers.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=CMartinez;1676036]To clarify, I've been to both, it's just been awhile.

I preferred Fase II because while La Isla was much nicer inside, it also had way more of a hustle vibe to it. Drinks were expensive, girls didn't seem as friendly, etc.

Plus, I didn't really see a difference in quality of the girls.

Now it sounds like La Isla is significantly better for quality of girls, and I'm just wondering if the attitude of the girls and servers has gotten better as well.

To be honest I'd prefer to just go back to Fase II, but it's hard to pass up la isla if the chicks are really that much better right now.[/QUOTE]Guys,

Nice descriptions. I can definitely identify with what each of you wrote.

I don't go to any of these places, currently, but have done all of these outlets at least a few times in the past. I have frequented Fase II more but it has been over a year since I was there last. I agree with the saloon feel and less hustle at Fase II.

Can anyone recommend an escort agency that is reliable.

Hey guys,

Heading down for a month today. Anyone want to kick it. 30 yo blue eyed east coast gringo. I'm sort of against all the typical touristy BS but always down to hang with someone who has a good vibe and enjoys good company. See you guys later! Expect lots of details later!

Within minutes of each other I exchanged dollars at a cambio in Mall Oviedo (which in the past has always delivered one of the better exchange rates I have see around town) and then pulled significant cash out of a nearby bank ATM using my USA bank debit card (mastercharge endorsed).

It always takes a few days for all the fees / charges to fully appear on my bank statement. (mastercard currency conv. Fee + mastercard cross border fee).

When all is said and done (with all fees included) I received the following exchange rate on this date:

Oviedo Mall Cambio: 2,190 cop / usd.

ATM withdrawl (debit card) 2,344 cop / usd.

Keep in mind this is a debit card and not a credit card.

I have done this little experiment in the past and I believe when all ATM fees were included the rates were much more equal or maybe even a little better at the cambios, but things have obviously changed leaning to better rates at the ATM. ----If one exchanges $1,000 usd this will amount to a difference of roughly 150,000 cop. A guy can have a lot of fun in Medellin with 150,000 cop. :-)

I will be traveling to Thailand next month and would be curious is the same will be found there?

ASIDE- on a recent past trip I noted that my debit card (which has no chip) would not work in many ATMs around Medellin. Almost all required a "chip". The ATMs on the wall as you enter west end of Mall Oviedo (nearest the cambios) do process cards without chip. Also the ATM at RIO casino in San Diego does as well. In centro I had real difficulty getting cash without a chip.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1676618]Hey guys,

Heading down for a month today. Anyone want to kick it. 30 yo blue eyed east coast gringo. I'm sort of against all the typical touristy BS but always down to hang with someone who has a good vibe and enjoys good company. See you guys later! Expect lots of details later![/QUOTE]Ohhh I love blue eyed gringos!! Lol, why would anyone of us care bout dat? Have fun!

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1676687]Within minutes of each other I exchanged dollars at a cambio in Mall Oviedo (which in the past has always delivered one of the better exchange rates I have see around town) and then pulled significant cash out of a nearby bank ATM using my USA bank debit card (mastercharge endorsed).

It always takes a few days for all the fees / charges to fully appear on my bank statement. (mastercard currency conv. Fee + mastercard cross border fee).

When all is said and done (with all fees included) I received the following exchange rate on this date:

Oviedo Mall Cambio: 2,190 cop / usd.

ATM withdrawl (debit card) 2,344 cop / usd.

Keep in mind this is a debit card and not a credit card.

I have done this little experiment in the past and I believe when all ATM fees were included the rates were much more equal or maybe even a little better at the cambios, but things have obviously changed leaning to better rates at the ATM.

I will be traveling to Thailand next month and would be curious is the same will be found there?[/QUOTE]I just returned from 3 weeks in Bangkok, I did not use ATMs as last year the USD $ cash rate for 50&100 notes, and TC rate was considerably better than ATM debits from a Canadian bank This year I took $USD and USD $ TC, s, I never carry TC. S in South America as you really get burned but not so in Thailand. Any note less than a 50 you get a poorer rate. Look up a few of my posting about "soapies" on the BKK site, too bad MDE does have the same 2 chicas in jacuzzi scrubbing your fingers, toes and other things, and the soapy body slides. The places have bars, restaurant and 150 or more chicas, Burmese, Lao, Cambodian, Thai. I just luv meeting people from different cultures. The facades on some of these places look like a casino entrance in vegas. These soapies are all 3 miles north of where all the farangs "foreigners" hangout like Soi Cowboy, Patpong and Nana. The "soapies" will be maybe 80% thai guys whereas in the former 3 places thai guys are not allowed to go, farangs only. Avoid any bar or club owned by an Arab or a Russian, there is a list of those on some BKK blog sites, and never go into a bar on the second floor in BKK. Back to my beloved paisas next week, God I luv Colombia.

I'm curious what the typical girls' response is in Medellin to photos / filming. I'm considering picking up either a decent camera or (due to the 29 minute recording limit on cameras) camcorder, both for touristy stuff and more. Private mementos.

What has been the girls' response to requests? I'm interested in for-my-eyes-only (sorry guys) records of the real fun. I see mostly images from before / after the action in various states of undress, but that could be the photographer protecting his privacy, so I can't tell. How do attitudes differ in, say, prepagos vs. Mansion girls vs. Casas vs. Clubs?

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1676687]I will be traveling to Thailand next month and would be curious is the same will be found there?[/QUOTE]You don't want to use a Thai ATM unless you have a card like Charles Schwab which reimburses the fees. A Thai ATM will hit you up for $6/withdrawal. As Bart said, bring newer series 50s and 100s. There are 3 money changers on every corner and most hotels exchange as well. If you come through Pattaya hit me up.

Is this place couples friendly? Can me and GF hit a strip club or hire a hooker for a night?

Or is it a single men only destination?

Thank you

[QUOTE=JoBobTheClown;1676719]I'm curious what the typical girls' response is in Medellin to photos / filming. [/QUOTE]The typical girls' response in Medellin will be the same as the typical girl's response anywhere else in the world. Some may let you film or photo them, so may not.

First I went to Energy about 4 PM. Only four chicas available, one 7, one six, and two 5's. I passed. Next I went to Blue Room and found only two chicas available, both solid 7's. I was tempted but the day is young. Next I walked about a mile down calle 33 to Abydos. Five chicas available here ranging from solid 7 to 5's. I passed again and will find something tonight. Two weeks ago also on Saturday I visited New Life about 1 PM and there were at least 15 chicas working. One was a solid 8 and I did one hour with her good for two pops. One hour cost was 70 K pesos. I requested "chupar sin condon" and she said that would require a 20 K peso tip which I gladly agreed to pay. She was great and New Life is a great value if you find a hot chica. I've been to Energy twice now and have been disappointed with chicas both times. Anyone finding any 8+ talent there lately? What is the best day of week and time of day? What casa outside of Lutron has the best looking talent these days?

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1676888]First I went to Energy about 4 PM. Only four chicas available, one 7, one six, and two 5's. I passed. Next I went to Blue Room and found only two chicas available, both solid 7's. I was tempted but the day is young. Next I walked about a mile down calle 33 to Abydos. Five chicas available here ranging from solid 7 to 5's. I passed again and will find something tonight. Two weeks ago also on Saturday I visited New Life about 1 PM and there were at least 15 chicas working. One was a solid 8 and I did one hour with her good for two pops. One hour cost was 70 K pesos. I requested "chupar sin condon" and she said that would require a 20 K peso tip which I gladly agreed to pay. She was great and New Life is a great value if you find a hot chica. I've been to Energy twice now and have been disappointed with chicas both times. Anyone finding any 8+ talent there lately? What is the best day of week and time of day? What casa outside of Lutron has the best looking talent these days?[/QUOTE]Last time I was there. I heard there was a girl named Stephanie. Cute 18 yr old with a tight very fit body.

[QUOTE=RapChik;1676784]Is this place couples friendly? Can me and GF hit a strip club or hire a hooker for a night?

Or is it a single men only destination?

Thank you[/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean by "this place"? MDE in general?

It is rare to find "couples". Over the years I did take several non club girls to the clubs and they have no problem. It depends on the individual girl if they are into bi. True bi Chicas are rarer in general in Latin america (as opposed to say Europe or North America). The pros however are willing to pretend. You have to talk to them. Most will charge more than the regular rate. If you stick to higher end clubs like Fase 2 and La Isla, no one would even blink an eye.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1676888]First I went to Energy about 4 PM. Only four chicas available, one 7, one six, and two 5's. I passed. Next I went to Blue Room and found only two chicas available, both solid 7's. I was tempted but the day is young. Next I walked about a mile down calle 33 to Abydos. Five chicas available here ranging from solid 7 to 5's. I passed again and will find something tonight. Two weeks ago also on Saturday I visited New Life about 1 PM and there were at least 15 chicas working. One was a solid 8 and I did one hour with her good for two pops. One hour cost was 70 K pesos. I requested "chupar sin condon" and she said that would require a 20 K peso tip which I gladly agreed to pay. She was great and New Life is a great value if you find a hot chica. I've been to Energy twice now and have been disappointed with chicas both times. Anyone finding any 8+ talent there lately? What is the best day of week and time of day? What casa outside of Lutron has the best looking talent these days?[/QUOTE]I was at Energy last night. Just 2 where there. One was a tall skinny 5.5 the other a 7 with bolt ONS. Went with the 7. She did kissing and sin condom for like 50 k. She was passionate and super into it. I'd like to know what day as well is best to go to Energy.

I went to Energy about 2 weeks ago on a Tuesday afternoon (around 4 pm) and there were around 12 girls there. There were some really nice ones. Loved seeing each girl come out in the blue robes and pose their bodies in sheer lingerie outfits. It was very relaxing with the full hour and the nice massage oils she rubbed all over me. I think she wanted another 50 K for BBBJ, but I passed. It was starting to get busy with the locals as I finished up around 5 pm.

The other great, high end daytime casa I would recommend is Blue Room. I went there about 45 minutes prior and there were only 3 girls. However, 2 of those 3 girls were amazing.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1677140]I was at Energy last night. Just 2 where there. One was a tall skinny 5.5 the other a 7 with bolt ONS. Went with the 7. She did kissing and sin condom for like 50 k. She was passionate and super into it. I'd like to know what day as well is best to go to Energy.[/QUOTE]

I am planning to travel to Medellin on the first week of April 2015 (April 5 to April 12). I planning to stay at the Hotel Dann Carlton Medellin. I am the type of guy that does not bring alot of different girls to his room. I always try to do 1 to 2 girls on my mongering trips. Other than the girl action what are some good restaurant are around El Poblado. Is the area relative safe? Are there non pros that one can meet around here. I am more into Non Pros than Pros or semi. Any advice from experience mongers to Medellin is welcome or you can also PM me.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1622283][URL]www.colombiajake.com[/URL] not hard at all USA 727-498-1680.[/QUOTE]Here we go with the newest hottie of the month! Yesica is a sweetheart who I've known for three years. She lives in Paris which is a barrio high up on the west side of Medellin. She has to walk up and down a lot to get to the store or to see friends and keeps those legs firm and hot! December was Karen, January Carolina and this month Yesica! I want to make sure you have plenty to keep you busy while your staying here with me. Of course these girls enjoy going out with you to have fun, or you can just stay here which ever you prefer. Let me know? Of course this is just for the guys who stay here at Jake's.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1668190]

In todays Colombia perfect 10s doesnt want to get married to escape poverty. Some want to consume luxury items and travel. For 5 years. Then they are wasted, they are unable to force themselves to the disciplince university studies requires.

With this possibilites; luxury consumption, travelling, university studies to make a career; marry a gringo is a boring option.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1668714]I have to agree with this statement. When I am on facebook I see endless photos of the same handful of chicas jetting off somewhere just about every other week. They vacation more than I do and I probably make 10 x more than they every will in two life times!

Like you said, being used to a life of luxury consumption and travel, they are not going to have the discipline to start and finish University or hold down a real job as they age and are not as in demand anymore. [B]Life is going to be tough for them once their bodies start showing wear and tear or if and when they pop out a kid. Their only hope is to get some sucker with deep pockets to marry them so that they can continue to live that sort of lifestyle.[/B] But if I had big bank, why would I lock down a worn-out 25-30 yr old when I can get a fresh new 18-21 yr old?[/QUOTE]Like Chris Rock says.

"Men cannot go backwards sexually. Women cannot go backwards in lifestyle" ([URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGhsRsHXP8[/URL]) These high priced super spoiled bitzes. On facebook or otherwise. Are the worst proposition, not worth the time, IMHO.

I see so many blown out holes in their late 20's early 30's, no job, no nothing, had opportunities earlier but decided to jet set around. These broads will settle for you. After all the jet setting and getting spoiled earlier in life. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=AussieGreg;1668103]I thought you died years ago?

A. G.[/QUOTE]A. G. Watching cricket in the motherland?

[QUOTE=Chilller;1674319]I'm so tired of hearing people spreading these bullshit scare stories.

Have you or anybody you know ever been drugged by scolpamine? Has anybody else on this forum? Mongers would be most susceptible to this yet I have never heard of this happening to anybody.

I've lived in El Centro for 2 months and got to know many of the girls that work there quite well, some of which became my friends. I've asked all of them at some point if they have ever heard of this drug and none of them knew what I was talking about.[/QUOTE]Lived here 2 months? How many people here do you know? 60 million killed in WW2, I don't know any of them. Not sure how many total have been scoped in Medellin but I am sure it's less than 60 million. I only know 3 personally and about 7 more are friends of friends, 5 of which I can verify first hand. I'll be honest. I don't know a lot of people here.

[QUOTE=ElCubanito;1677891]I am planning to travel to Medellin on the first week of April 2015 (April 5 to April 12). I planning to stay at the Hotel Dann Carlton Medellin. I am the type of guy that does not bring alot of different girls to his room. I always try to do 1 to 2 girls on my mongering trips. Other than the girl action what are some good restaurant are around El Poblado. Is the area relative safe? Are there non pros that one can meet around here. I am more into Non Pros than Pros or semi. Any advice from experience mongers to Medellin is welcome or you can also PM me.[/QUOTE]Your in a super safe area. You'll be in gringo gulch. It helps tremendously if you speak Spanish. For non pros hang at the nice malls on the weekend and try and spit game. Again you need to know Spanish. Resturants in Parque lleras are great. Hell even the mall food with $10 t bones are amazing. Be prepared to pay a Chica fee at the hotel. Personally I say go with an apartment. Also make friends with a driver via uber or easy taxi. Getting a regular driver really helps especially if you don't speak much English.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1678324]Your in a super safe area. You'll be in gringo gulch. It helps tremendously if you speak Spanish. For non pros hang at the nice malls on the weekend and try and spit game. Again you need to know Spanish. Resturants in Parque lleras are great. Hell even the mall food with $10 t bones are amazing. Be prepared to pay a Chica fee at the hotel. Personally I say go with an apartment. Also make friends with a driver via uber or easy taxi. Getting a regular driver really helps especially if you don't speak much English.[/QUOTE]Thanks BlueChange and yes I am fluent in Spanish, plus I do have great communication skills. Thanks for the info and recommendation. When I come back I will post a message. I am planning on doing 3 weeks of travel in April. I will be going to Medellin for 10 days and the 11 days in Cuba. I will post a report as to my experience in Medellin. Hopefully it will be good like everybody that has gone to Medellin. I went to Cartagena 5 years ago and it was ok, hopefully things are much better for me this time around.

[QUOTE=ElCubanito;1678520]I will post a report as to my experience in Medellin. Hopefully it will be good like everybody that has gone to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Not sure how you are prepared to compare your trip to the rest of us. 99.9% of us go to Medellin to bang pros and semi pros, which you have stated you are not interested in. Your success rate will be vastly different from the rest of us.

And as far as meeting "non pros", if you are able to bang them back in your home country, then you should have no problem doing the same in Medellin. If the non pros back in your home country wouldn't touch you with a ten-foot pole, then don't expect anything to be different in Medellin unless you bring money into the picture. But at that point they are technically no longer "non pros", hahaha 😝.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1678540]Not sure how you are prepared to compare your trip to the rest of us. 99.9% of us go to Medellin to bang pros and semi pros, which you have stated you are not interested in. Your success rate will be vastly different from the rest of us.

And as far as meeting "non pros", if you are able to bang them back in your home country, then you should have no problem doing the same in Medellin. If the non pros back in your home country wouldn't touch you with a ten-foot pole, then don't expect anything to be different in Medellin unless you bring money into the picture. But at that point they are technically no longer "non pros", hahaha .

Have fun![/QUOTE]SavePros, yes I like a like challenge when it comes to women and to answer your question, yes I have had success with Colombiana here in the United States. Now with that said it does not mean I would not bang a semi who catches my eye. The whole thing in this is having game, if you have game you can bang a lot of women, any women. Yes my quantity in Medellin will never be close to most guy in this site, but my quality will be high. I will inform when I come back from Medellin.

I just want to thank all of the guys that have given me input and suggestion to my trip.

El Cubanito.

[QUOTE=ElCubanito;1678653]SavePros, yes I like a like challenge when it comes to women and to answer your question, yes I have had success with Colombiana here in the United States. Now with that said it does not mean I would not bang a semi who catches my eye. The whole thing in this is having game, if you have game you can bang a lot of women, any women. Yes my quantity in Medellin will never be close to most guy in this site, but my quality will be high. I will inform when I come back from Medellin.

I just want to thank all of the guys that have given me input and suggestion to my trip.

El Cubanito.[/QUOTE]Why is this even a question? The answer is the same and always has been.

Is your code name just a name? If you are a native Spanish speaker you will be fine and getting laid by a non pro will be due to your skills and game. If you are on the younger side 30-45 and decent looking and in sort of good shape all the better. If you are older, out of shape, and not that good looking you'll be in for a hard road. This is true all over the world! I don't know why guys think this is not true? Once we take money out of the mix it comes down to looks, charm / personality, fitness, and animal attraction.

The fact you had to ask about picking up non pros on a hooker message board has me questioning your game sir. Fair enough yes?

Look in the mirror and go down my (the Worlds checklist).

Ability to communicate with the girl (Guys with shitty Spanish deep down inside knows that there is no real connection! She just there for the money. No amistad! Cliente why ya!

Youthful (or young) Look. Truth hurts. Youth is wasted on the young. But do yourself a favor. If you going bald shave it. The cue ball look has more appeal than the Homer Simpson.

In shape (not a fat bastard) well enough. If you have a huge gut don't wear a button down shirt, you can still look nice in a Golf Polo and in Mede it's fine and acceptable. A button down just draws attention to your gut.

Cool Funny charming?

Good Looking Handsome?

If you have 3 of the 5 you'll be fine. If 2 or less. Be honest everybody. You're going to have a hard time. If you factor in money. Either taking a chica out shopping or showing her a good time in the club, diner, ect. You can make up for any short comings.

You think the girls love gringos in Vietnam, Mexico, the Republic? No they want to get married and have a better life. That equals money!

Well put. I am certainly not thin by any means. My Spanish sucks!! But I always have a good time because my apartments stacked with liquor and fun stuff. Not to mention I'm pretty laid back and looking for fun which is what most of them are looking for. I always dress nice and am not cheap. Thankfully I got 95 percent of my hair. LOL.

CHECK OUT THIS VIDEO ON YOUTUBE.

Universal hot crazy matrix. It's funny!!

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1678682]Why is this even a question? The answer is the same and always has been.

Is your code name just a name? If you are a native Spanish speaker you will be fine and getting laid by a non pro will be due to your skills and game. If you are on the younger side 30-45 and decent looking and in sort of good shape all the better. If you are older, out of shape, and not that good looking you'll be in for a hard road. This is true all over the world! I don't know why guys think this is not true? Once we take money out of the mix it comes down to looks, charm / personality, fitness, and animal attraction.

The fact you had to ask about picking up non pros on a hooker message board has me questioning your game sir. Fair enough yes?

Look in the mirror and go down my (the Worlds checklist).

Ability to communicate with the girl (Guys with shitty Spanish deep down inside knows that there is no real connection! She just there for the money. No amistad! Cliente why ya!

Youthful (or young) Look. Truth hurts. Youth is wasted on the young. But do yourself a favor. If you going bald shave it. The cue ball look has more appeal than the Homer Simpson.

In shape (not a fat bastard) well enough. If you have a huge gut don't wear a button down shirt, you can still look nice in a Golf Polo and in Mede it's fine and acceptable. A button down just draws attention to your gut.

Cool Funny charming?

Good Looking Handsome?

If you have 3 of the 5 you'll be fine. If 2 or less. Be honest everybody. You're going to have a hard time. If you factor in money. Either taking a chica out shopping or showing her a good time in the club, diner, ect. You can make up for any short comings.

You think the girls love gringos in Vietnam, Mexico, the Republic? No they want to get married and have a better life. That equals money![/QUOTE]

"Fashion Week Internationale heads to Medellin for Colombia Fashion Week. Formerly the old stomping ground of Pablo Escobar, the city is now trying to throw off its powdery legacy and push fashion up the noses of the world. Medellin is also fast becoming the plastic surgery capital of South America; people are flying in from all over the world to sample the city's budget body enhancement. We look at how the legacy of the narco-aesthetic inspired by the heady days of the Escobar era is being pushed out in favor of a more European silhouette, I. E. Less tits and ass.

Along our journey we meet Escobar's brother, Roberto, and Charlet tries her hand (and legs) at the national sport of pole dancing. We also find out just how far one woman will go to plump her buns. ".

[URL]http://www.vice.com/video/colombia-full-length[/URL]

My gut feeling is the reporter from the U.K. (qualified as obviously doable) was intimidated by the girls of Colombia. Jesus, we got to stop the movement to have these girls looks more "European." This is more serious than global warming.

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1678841]"Fashion Week Internationale heads to Medellin for Colombia Fashion Week. Formerly the old stomping ground of Pablo Escobar, the city is now trying to throw off its powdery legacy and push fashion up the noses of the world. Medellin is also fast becoming the plastic surgery capital of South America; people are flying in from all over the world to sample the city's budget body enhancement. We look at how the legacy of the narco-aesthetic inspired by the heady days of the Escobar era is being pushed out in favor of a more European silhouette, I. E. Less tits and ass.

Along our journey we meet Escobar's brother, Roberto, and Charlet tries her hand (and legs) at the national sport of pole dancing. We also find out just how far one woman will go to plump her buns. ".

[URL]http://www.vice.com/video/colombia-full-length[/URL]

My gut feeling is the reporter from the U.K. (qualified as obviously doable) was intimidated by the girls of Colombia. Jesus, we got to stop the movement to have these girls looks more "European." This is more serious than global warming.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]This **** is the worst. She is not a journalist.

Too opinionated and when she attepts to go gonzo journalism and dresses up, she fails misreibly and half asses it. (No pun intended) truth is I LOVE the paisa culture. The mountains have isolated it and made this fascinating culture. Peeps need to get over them selfs and accept this place for what it is. Another thing people don't realize is how much of an economic boom this place is going to have. I'm going to buy a place here. It's amazing what 80 k cAn get you! And the maintenance won't kill you either. Anyway fuck this English **** I hope her teeth Rott out and she gets cervical cancer.

Damn dude that's pretty harsh.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1679515]This **** is the worst. She is not a journalist.

Too opinionated and when she attepts to go gonzo journalism and dresses up, she fails misreibly and half asses it. (No pun intended) truth is I LOVE the paisa culture. The mountains have isolated it and made this fascinating culture. Peeps need to get over them selfs and accept this place for what it is. Another thing people don't realize is how much of an economic boom this place is going to have. I'm going to buy a place here. It's amazing what 80 k cAn get you! And the maintenance won't kill you either. Anyway fuck this English **** I hope her teeth Rott out and she gets cervical cancer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1678841]"Fashion Week Internationale heads to Medellin for Colombia Fashion Week. Formerly the old stomping ground of Pablo Escobar, the city is now trying to throw off its powdery legacy and push fashion up the noses of the world. Medellin is also fast becoming the plastic surgery capital of South America; people are flying in from all over the world to sample the city's budget body enhancement. We look at how the legacy of the narco-aesthetic inspired by the heady days of the Escobar era is being pushed out in favor of a more European silhouette, I. E. Less tits and ass.

Along our journey we meet Escobar's brother, Roberto, and Charlet tries her hand (and legs) at the national sport of pole dancing. We also find out just how far one woman will go to plump her buns. ".

[URL]http://www.vice.com/video/colombia-full-length[/URL]

My gut feeling is the reporter from the U.K. (qualified as obviously doable) was intimidated by the girls of Colombia. Jesus, we got to stop the movement to have these girls looks more "European." This is more serious than global warming.

Only good energy![/QUOTE]I saw this video a while ago on YouTube. You could spend hours reading the comments Colombians left. They really laid into her, LOL:

[B]Colombian Fashion Week - Ass Implants & Couture[/B]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAg2Zybtzoc[/URL]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1679561]Damn dude that's pretty harsh.[/QUOTE]Upon reading it again, you are correct. I guess I recall how much her attempt at being a journalist made me upset. Anyway it's Saturday night and I'm here in Medellin! Ahhh my life is.

Awesome. I hope you get to enjoy it. Not just the girls either.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1679755]Upon reading it again, you are correct. I guess I recall how much her attempt at being a journalist made me upset. Anyway it's Saturday night and I'm here in Medellin! Ahhh my life is.

Awesome. I hope you get to enjoy it. Not just the girls either.[/QUOTE]I snatched this from WIki. Donate to them.

Journalism is gathering, processing, and dissemination of news and information related to the news to an audience. The word applies to both the method of inquiring for news and the literary style which is used to disseminate it.

Then the audience can decide for themselves what they think. Or like most news now a days it has a lean to it to persuade the viewer to a certain position.

That stupid working girl had an agenda and interjected her own insecurities and biases into the story. She always had a snide comment, was condescending, and clearly had an ax to grind!

Let's see. She's tall or taller than most colombians even. No tits at all super flat chested and has a pancake ass! As we all know women of all back grounds are fueled by jealousy!

Not to hard to figure out what was going on here! I bet when she got back to her shit little town in the UK and sat around with a table full of chalky white crooked brown toothed UK chics (not known for their collective beauty) she bitched and bitched and bitched and all of them sat knodding their heads I agreement.

Haters going to hate. Also I was told that those models are ALL avaiable if you can get yourself a connect. 300-500 mil peso range for a short time. Some more in the 800-Millon range but if it's on your bucked list.

I agree with she sucked. But I wouldn't go to wishing she gets cervical cancer for goodness sake! Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1679755]Upon reading it again, you are correct. I guess I recall how much her attempt at being a journalist made me upset. Anyway it's Saturday night and I'm here in Medellin! Ahhh my life is.

Awesome. I hope you get to enjoy it. Not just the girls either.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1679974]I snatched this from WIki. Donate to them.

Journalism is gathering, processing, and dissemination of news and information related to the news to an audience. The word applies to both the method of inquiring for news and the literary style which is used to disseminate it.

Then the audience can decide for themselves what they think. Or like most news now a days it has a lean to it to persuade the viewer to a certain position.

That stupid working girl had an agenda and interjected her own insecurities and biases into the story. She always had a snide comment, was condescending, and clearly had an ax to grind!

Let's see. She's tall or taller than most colombians even. No tits at all super flat chested and has a pancake ass! As we all know women of all back grounds are fueled by jealousy!

Not to hard to figure out what was going on here! I bet when she got back to her shit little town in the UK and sat around with a table full of chalky white crooked brown toothed UK chics (not known for their collective beauty) she bitched and bitched and bitched and all of them sat knodding their heads I agreement.

Haters going to hate. Also I was told that those models are ALL avaiable if you can get yourself a connect. 300-500 mil peso range for a short time. Some more in the 800-Millon range but if it's on your bucked list.[/QUOTE]When I first watched this video, I kept thinking what a be* the journalist was being. Then, I realized she WAS the story. This was a basic "fish out of water" scenario where a woman who is used to being the standard of beauty in her home environment suddenly finds herself in a place where she is NOT at the top of the food chain. And, it pissed her off to the point where she behaved like a typical mean girl from any American high school or sorority. It happens all the time. For example, when I lived in NYC, friends and I would go to night clubs and look at the "shock and awe" on the faces of girls FOB from BFE. These poor things went from being a "10" in their little towns in the middle of nowhere, to being a "7" in a club full of hot women. And, they often lost their s* and suddenly "all these NYC women are a bunch of w*s, sluts, skanks, etc". The same behaviors can be seen in Las Vegas, Miami, LA, etc. (Talk about plastic surgery LOL). The point is many women (especially immature, yet attractive women) have a weak model of reality and go into attack mode when anything threatens it. This one just happens to being experiencing her meltdown on international TV. Great entertainment value.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1679974]I snatched this from WIki.

Journalism is gathering, processing, and dissemination of news and information related to the news to an audience. The word applies to both the method of inquiring for news and the literary style which is used to disseminate it. Then the audience can decide for themselves what they think. Or like most news now a days it has a lean to it to persuade the viewer to a certain position.

That stupid working girl had an agenda and interjected her own insecurities and biases into the story. She always had a snide comment, was condescending, and clearly had an ax to grind![/QUOTE]Looks like ya cherry picked a little 'cause that same Wiki entry goes on to acknowledge other types of "journalism" as well which includes this "stupid working girl".

But by your reasoning isn't O'Reily and Maddow in your same category as well as most, if not all WSJ & NYT op-ed "journalism"?

And isn't it just a little curious that the country seems to have such a permissive view of teenage plastic surgery or is it no different than braces on American kids?

And BTW, aren't hookers commonly the ones many consider to be "stupid working girls"?

I'm just asking, (as the expression goes).

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1678067]A. G. Watching cricket in the motherland?[/QUOTE]

L. T.

Been in Australia since August last year mate.
My mothers 80th birthday, then I went to Dubai, Abu Darbi, Sharjah for a month and a half watching Australia play Pakistan in cricket.
Returned to Australia and went to Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, bus to Siem Riep, Phonm Phen and onto Saigon then train to Hanoi.
Hap Long Bay, Dien Bien Phu, then returned to Australia via Thailand.
Leave for Philippines this Saturday then Vietnam again, bus through Laos and onto Thailand / Phuket.
If I have a spear week Mayanmar.
Got the cricket in the West Indies again in June.
Over 80 countries now mate.

Maro Polo.

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1674260][b]I only wonder what a retiree does to occupy one's time in Medellin when one is done banging those one or two hotties a day? [/b]I mean, I think I would go crazy there after the newness wears off. Sure, I could go to Spanish school there for 6 months to become fluent, but what would I do after that? Fortunately for me, I still have a lot of time to figure out all out. Still, I wonder what these guys do with all the rest of their day in Medellin day after day once they've been there awhile?[/QUOTE]Banging 1-2 hotties a day but the whole thing lasts 45 minutes. That's not a lot of time.

I have a friend who comes down for 3-5 weeks at a time. 3-4 times a year.

He always tells me he is dying of boredom and that I am lucky because I work 9-5 and have something to do (yeah right I'm lucky to be working).

He stays in a mid range hotel when he is down here and well, it's a small room with small bathroom, no kitchen, no balcony, not many outside windows depending on your room). It's not really home, you don't have all your stuff. He goes stir crazy even though there are other foreigners to commiserate with but there is only so much of that you can do. I tell him to do what he does at home but he has a list of things that just are not available here. Plus when you're in your own place you have more things at the ready, more things to take care of etc.

For instance if you live full time here and have your own place you find yourself with more steady women in your stable who are just totally awesome. No need to search and search at this casa and that strip club. After you've weeded out the crappy ones you have solid rotation of cream of the crop sweet non hustler GFE, some of whom don't even need more than 40 K cab fare if you treat them right and give them that escape from their hum drum lives.

So.

You invite one of them over for a dinner (and sex of course) hanging out on your balcony, getting some music and cocktails. That's a lot of time spent and about 3 or 4 loads shot, conversation, maybe going out to a bar for a few, watching a DVD etc. Sometimes just setting that all up with food shopping at 2-3 different places and cooking and getting your place ready, hiding evidence of the other women etc. THAT TAKES ALL DAY before she even gets there! She gets there at 6 PM and leaves the following morning at 9 or 10 AM or even later if it's a weekend.

You're here for a few weeks in a hotel, well you don't have those kinds of problems!

But living here full time for the retired, non working crowd is probably lacking a lot for many even if you have your own place and all of the accouterments.

[QUOTE=Drgn;1680459]When I first watched this video, I kept thinking what a be* the journalist was being. Then, I realized she WAS the story. This was a basic "fish out of water" scenario where a woman who is used to being the standard of beauty in her home environment suddenly finds herself in a place where she is NOT at the top of the food chain. And, it pissed her off to the point where she behaved like a typical mean girl from any American high school or sorority. It happens all the time. For example, when I lived in NYC, friends and I would go to night clubs and look at the "shock and awe" on the faces of girls FOB from BFE. These poor things went from being a "10" in their little towns in the middle of nowhere, to being a "7" in a club full of hot women. And, they often lost their s* and suddenly "all these NYC women are a bunch of w*s, sluts, skanks, etc". The same behaviors can be seen in Las Vegas, Miami, LA, etc. (Talk about plastic surgery LOL). The point is many women (especially immature, yet attractive women) have a weak model of reality and go into attack mode when anything threatens it. This one just happens to being experiencing her meltdown on international TV. Great entertainment value.[/QUOTE]Did not watch the entire video, but wondered why she did not ask the designers why they picked the models they did? The choice of who struts your line down the runway is the designer's choice.

The piece started out with cocaine, I don't know the actual figures and I know there is a good deal of coke down here but it is just not as mainstream as it is in the US or Europe. So what if a lot of it is made down here, mostly all of it all gets exported. It's just like thinking all Cubans smoke cigars when in essence almost all Cuban cigars are exported and smoked in countries outside of Cuba. Yeah they smoke them in Cuba, but you know what I mean.

I'd like to see her ask Snoop Dog "Is it bright in here?" like she did to the Regaeton singers in costume with their sunglasses on inside just about to perform. Just about any rapper or rockstar in the US and Europe is wearing shades inside. And she knows that. Ever see Slash without shades? Not too often. And therein lies the proof that she is purposely trying to be an ignoramus looking to be an ass as a way of entertaining the people back home.

This whole thing was about getting views and making regular women feel good but mostly about putting down a culture and style that she KNOWS exists in London, but blatantly ignores and acts like she has no idea what goes on in just about every major city in the west.

Plastic Surgery? Musicians in sunglasses? Fashion models showing skin? WE HAVE THAT HERE?

I am totally surprised she did not make a few digs at gays being involved in fashion week. That would have made her ignorance "complete". Apparently she could not dig at the gays and have her video accepted by her culturally ignorant home audience.

She could have done this exact video during fashion week in NYC or LA or Paris or Milan, not speaking the home language and pulled off the same thing. She chose wisely, got the views but when the smoke settles and the dust clears she is what she is and I feel sorry for her and her followers.

Lastly her question to the makeup artist that was translated by Diego was perfectly translated by Diego. She said "lost in translation". Obviously she didn't like the way the answer way going or it was funnier to go with it the way she did.

Does it really matter?

Yesterday checked out Relax. Taxi had a problem finding the location since no signs exist.

Mucho security with several electric doors. Nice facility -- reminds of the nice casas in Bueno Aires. Large line up of chicas for 1200 pm. Nothing remarkable. Selected a slim black cutie named Cari from Cali.

Very professionally run that allows credit cards. Chicas carry a log sheet to record the time. Price list is clearly posted. Many locals. Ran into some gringos Selected the one hour option at 70.000. No kissing. Again -- its is nice to have hot young chicas to touch and feel while getting sex and a massage. Cari actually provided a good massage.

Good sex -- not outstanding. Good head and willing to suck as long as you want. Cow girl was okay. IMO chicas may have more energy and enthusiasm than 30 plus but generally do not have the same finese. Its no wonder for me that it takes longer for me to cum with the younger ones. Worthy of a repeat.

Right after met up with 2 ISG ¨local'members. Walked around centro checking out a few casas -- Yakuza and Sexy Fantasias II. Nothing remarkable. ISG dudes were shooting the breeze with staff and chicas. Unexpectedly one of the ISG dudes thought we were going to be able to go to a barrio to check out some chicas. Unable to secure the deal with the taxi driver.

Returned to the hotel via taxi which costed more than anticipated. Heavy rain, thunder and lightning started. It lasted over one hour. Unfortunately it is forecasted to remain throughout the week. The weather is very humid. The nights are less cooler than anticipated.

No chicas at Mayorsita. ISG member supplied info to call a nice Mayorsita chica but was too tired.

Woke up around 400 am and wandered to Mayorsita to eat. There is a good restaurant open 24 hours with a nice staff and cheap food. To my surprise, it was very active. Handful of doable chicas. More men than chicas. Almost sessioned with a chica back to my hotel for 25.000 at one hour. Shall return tonight.

Thanks for the pms. See you boys soon!

[QUOTE=SailorJim;1681006]Banging 1-2 hotties a day but the whole thing lasts 45 minutes. That's not a lot of time.

I have a friend who comes down for 3-5 weeks at a time. 3-4 times a year.

He always tells me he is dying of boredom and that I am lucky because I work 9-5 and have something to do (yeah right I'm lucky to be working).

He stays in a mid range hotel when he is down here and well, it's a small room with small bathroom, no kitchen, no balcony, not many outside windows depending on your room). It's not really home, you don't have all your stuff. He goes stir crazy even though there are other foreigners to commiserate with but there is only so much of that you can do. I tell him to do what he does at home but he has a list of things that just are not available here. Plus when you're in your own place you have more things at the ready, more things to take care of etc.

For instance if you live full time here and have your own place you find yourself with more steady women in your stable who are just totally awesome. No need to search and search at this casa and that strip club. After you've weeded out the crappy ones you have solid rotation of cream of the crop sweet non hustler GFE, some of whom don't even need more than 40 K cab fare if you treat them right and give them that escape from their hum drum lives.

So.

You invite one of them over for a dinner (and sex of course) hanging out on your balcony, getting some music and cocktails. That's a lot of time spent and about 3 or 4 loads shot, conversation, maybe going out to a bar for a few, watching a DVD etc. Sometimes just setting that all up with food shopping at 2-3 different places and cooking and getting your place ready, hiding evidence of the other women etc. THAT TAKES ALL DAY before she even gets there! She gets there at 6 PM and leaves the following morning at 9 or 10 AM or even later if it's a weekend.

You're here for a few weeks in a hotel, well you don't have those kinds of problems!

But living here full time for the retired, non working crowd is probably lacking a lot for many even if you have your own place and all of the accouterments.[/QUOTE]Good subject. I'm retired and usually I come to Colombia for a 10-14 day stretch of time a couple of times a year. Its because of the boredom factor and financial issues too. But I think those guys who are here for long periods of time should get out and see other parts of Colombia besides just Medellin. Theres a lot of interesting cities and places to see in this country. Also take trips to Ecuador and Peru etc. As well.

Indeed good subject. I just get tired of banging in a week, so usually I bring my work projects and personal projects with me. Also I visit some pueblos every week.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1681267]Good subject. I'm retired and usually I come to Colombia for a 10-14 day stretch of time a couple of times a year. Its because of the boredom factor and financial issues too. But I think those guys who are here for long periods of time should get out and see other parts of Colombia besides just Medellin. Theres a lot of interesting cities and places to see in this country. Also take trips to Ecuador and Peru etc. As well.[/QUOTE].

It's the same the world over. We all put are pants on one leg at a time. What's to say. You drink eat fuck visit different places based on your budget and enjoy your family friends etc.

Some people never experience any of this stuff in other countries.

Everybody is different I'm sure we all seen the ads for people that want to live in one of those places for older people. Every time I see one I think fuck that I will be in some foreign country living out my life. Certainly not with a bunch of old people. Fuck that. Even though I will eventually be fucked I sure as hell am not living out my life carving wooden fucking birds.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1681390]Indeed good subject. I just get tired of banging in a week, so usually I bring my work projects and personal projects with me. Also I visit some pueblos every week.

.[/QUOTE]

I just want to ad. One of my good friends that was around 75 use to bring girls to my shop. He would drive to the back of my shop / yard with a girl. One day I said damn same you really like to fuck!! He said no way I'm too old I just let them suck on this mother fucker. I laughed. He was a good guy!

[QUOTE=YouCan;1681433]It's the same the world over. We all put are pants on one leg at a time. What's to say. You drink eat fuck visit different places based on your budget and enjoy your family friends etc.

Some people never experience any of this stuff in other countries.

Everybody is different I'm sure we all seen the ads for people that want to live in one of those places for older people. Every time I see one I think fuck that I will be in some foreign country living out my life. Certainly not with a bunch of old people. Fuck that. Even though I will eventually be fucked I sure as hell am not living out my life carving wooden fucking birds.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1681267]Good subject. I'm retired and usually I come to Colombia for a 10-14 day stretch of time a couple of times a year. Its because of the boredom factor and financial issues too. But I think those guys who are here for long periods of time should get out and see other parts of Colombia besides just Medellin. Theres a lot of interesting cities and places to see in this country. Also take trips to Ecuador and Peru etc. As well.[/QUOTE]I hope to include Medellin somewhere in my retirement plans someday. I unfortunately have about 30 years to go. So have a little time to plan things out. If I were retired though I would def spend time here in MDE. Yes its not like the US but here food and transportation is so cheap. You could prob have a few girlfriends that can cook for you clean and spend time with you. $600 us dol would prob get you a decent place to live. And then budget out the rest of your monthly retirement income. Hell I think Soc Sec would give you approx 12-1500 monthly. I would volunteer to teach kids and adults basic english and math. Great way to meet locals. Volunteer at malls or other places where you can enjoy the scenery maybe a small cafe a few hours a day. Lots to do just have to explore a little I guess. In the meantime I will be working 10,12,18,24 hour shifts until my next MDE vaca.

Yesterday I discovered my bank deactivated my card. Taxied to the Santa Fe Mall and used the call center to fix my problem. I always call the bank prior to departure about what countries I shall be visiting. For some reason an ATM withdraws from the MDE airport deactivated my account. After several phone calls and wasted $, the card was reactivated. Withdrew money.

The mall was very nice. MDE is noted for denim and there was plenty available at high and low price points. Some nice eye candy. Taxied over to Relax (not New Life as incorrectly mentioned in a previous post).

Relax had a better lineup than the previous day. More cuties. Selected Marcella. Cute typical Latina. Allowed closed mouth kissing. Selected the 30 minute session and paid with credit card. Usual sucking as long as you want. Sucks to the musical beat which was nice. Poor missionary performer. However in cowgirl, she was a human jackhammer. Amazing. Cummed admirably. Massage was better than the black chica. Upon return to the lobby there were 4 to 5 mongers waiting.

The taxi ride home was an adventure. Initially I thought -- wow this guy knows the back streets since there was little traffic. However it was quickly apparent he was going in the wrong direction. It was an honest mistake since he restarted the meter. Nonetheless, the meter was still running high. Eventually got to Mayorista. Gave him 10.000 mil. Shook hands and departed.

Mayorista improves each day. Younger and hotter chicas. ISG setup a date for me with a chica from the Buenos Aires area. Scheduled to meet at Mayorsita on the corner casino. Chica looked like a young Penelope Cruz. Sexy with glitter on her face. Very sweet and nice. Sat down for a beer then headed to my hotel.

At the desk they stopped me and the chica. The ad says the room is for 1 to 2 people. Plus the desk allowed a chica to enter on Monday. Played a prerecorded English message on her cell phone about no prostitution at the hotel. Its too bad since the hotel has a panoramic city view. Oh well. Shall talk to the staff every night about bringing a chica.

Returned to mayorista. Paid 20.000 for a love hotel. It is actually for only 45 minutes. Chica was great. Very sensual and passionate. No rules. Good in every position. Sweetheart that aims to please. Again -- what a delight to receive such passion and tenderness from a hot chica at under $30 including taxi money. Waited for her outside but she probably went out the back. Nice selection of chicas that barely look 18 waiting around.

Returned to the hotel. Went to the 6th floor bar to flirt with Lina who looks Demi Moore. Unfortunately she can not date guests. What a shame!

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1681473]I hope to include Medellin somewhere in my retirement plans someday. I unfortunately have about 30 years to go. So have a little time to plan things out. If I were retired though I would def spend time here in MDE. Yes its not like the US but here food and transportation is so cheap. You could prob have a few girlfriends that can cook for you clean and spend time with you. $600 us dol would prob get you a decent place to live. And then budget out the rest of your monthly retirement income. Hell I think Soc Sec would give you approx 12-1500 monthly. I would volunteer to teach kids and adults basic english and math. Great way to meet locals. Volunteer at malls or other places where you can enjoy the scenery maybe a small cafe a few hours a day. Lots to do just have to explore a little I guess. In the meantime I will be working 10,12,18,24 hour shifts until my next MDE vaca.[/QUOTE]Real Talk bro! I agree 100% I'm still 25 years off from retirement. Need to start to plan that as well. Add it to my list of things to do.

You stole my idea! LOL!! I would do something down there if I were to be a part or full time resident I would do something vs nothing. No golf, no fishing (I hear there is some if you know where to look) how many working girls can you bang? How many diners can you go to? How many nights in the club?

I've been told many times that guys that have retired down there are bored. Most that have started businesses have gone broke by not understanding the market they are in and blindly following a dead end dream.

I'd for sure do something like what you said above. Do a tutorial for kids and or adult education classes. English, basic computer stuff, how to run a small business. Amazing how so many Colombia's dream of owning something but have no idea how to get there or even how to take the first steps. It seems like the system is in place to keep people down and out.

This insight and other posts could suggest that after retirement Colombia may be a good place to "visit" frequently instead of living there.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1681636]Real Talk bro! I agree 100% I'm still 25 years off from retirement. Need to start to plan that as well. Add it to my list of things to do.

You stole my idea! LOL!! I would do something down there if I were to be a part or full time resident I would do something vs nothing. No golf, no fishing (I hear there is some if you know where to look) how many working girls can you bang? How many diners can you go to? How many nights in the club?

I've been told many times that guys that have retired down there are bored. Most that have started businesses have gone broke by not understanding the market they are in and blindly following a dead end dream.

I'd for sure do something like what you said above. Do a tutorial for kids and or adult education classes. English, basic computer stuff, how to run a small business. Amazing how so many Colombia's dream of owning something but have no idea how to get there or even how to take the first steps. It seems like the system is in place to keep people down and out.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1681767]This insight and other posts could suggest that after retirement Colombia may be a good place to "visit" frequently instead of living there.

.[/QUOTE]I've met a few people over the years who have retired in Costa Rica and Colombia etc. Most have eventually returned to the US over time. I think they got bored and ran out of things to do or didn't achieve their goals. One guy wanted to marry a Colombiana but never found the right one. These guys need things to keep themselves busy.

There's a lot of interesting little towns to see here in Colombia. Places like Antioquia, Guatape-Penol, Hacienda Napoles (Pablo Escobar's zoo), Jerico, Popayan etc. That's fun to do.

That is why Argentina is a better country to retire in.

That is where a lot of guys are retired.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1681767]This insight and other posts could suggest that after retirement Colombia may be a good place to "visit" frequently instead of living there.

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1681804]That is why Argentina is a better country to retire in.

That is where a lot of guys are retired.[/QUOTE]What are the costs basis like in Argentina? Housing food transportation safety all that needs to be taken into acct.

Everything you need and want to know is here:

[URL]http://www.argentinaprivate.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1681813]What are the costs basis like in Argentina? Housing food transportation safety all that needs to be taken into acct.[/QUOTE]

The costs in Argentina, where I lived from 2003 to 2011 with some stops elsewhere, oscillate wildly and the inflation is unbelievable. So it gets pretty expensive, then the economy crashes and it gets idiotically cheap, then the economy recovers, inflation sets in, it gets expensive, it crashes, et cetera, et cetera. Lather, rinse, repeat. Pretty cheap now so I will go back for a couple months once it cools off. Housing is complicated, especially in Buenos Aires city; minimum lease is two years, you need a guarantor, and you can't get one. So you are stuck with "temporary" housing which is limited to six months. Of course, these rules are often bent or ignored, like all rules all over Latin America. In my opinion it is considerably safer than Colombia, but that also varies with the economic cycle. The current "presidenta" (she insists on being called that even though there is no such word in Spanish) is a complete wing nut. Argentineans are the laziest people on the face of the earth, which has its plusses and minuses, the primary plus being that the women will turn to prostitution in a heartbeat rather than work an actual job.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1681779]I've met a few people over the years who have retired in Costa Rica and Colombia etc. Most have eventually returned to the US over time. I think they got bored and ran out of things to do or didn't achieve their goals. One guy wanted to marry a Colombiana but never found the right one. These guys need things to keep themselves busy.

There's a lot of interesting little towns to see here in Colombia. Places like Antioquia, Guatape-Penol, Hacienda Napoles (Pablo Escobar's zoo), Jerico, Popayan etc. That's fun to do.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct; I've had the same experience. Guys find that making a new life in CR or Colombia ain't as easy as they thought or the system is just too difficult to navigate vs what they were used to back home. Example a buddy had two or three sub shops back in Hartford. Sold them and was very successful. Moved to mede, met a girl, got serious, and opened up a sub shot. Failed! Had sourcing issues, crappy location, Paisas don't crave a cheese steak or a veal parm the same way we do. Then the girl and visa stuff. He lost a good chunk of his nest egg. Lesson learned I guess. I've heard of a bunch of these stories.

You are right again. There are little trips to take and adventures to be had. The issues is that there isn't enuff things to do or the things that I / you / they want to do. Golfing, hunting, fishing, are the top things that come to mind and those things are not common in mede. Neither is the beach and all the activities that go with the ocean. Same example I gave before; How many little pueblos can you visit? I was in China during college and after two months it was like "No I don't want to visit the summer palace! You seen one funny roofed building you seen them all. ".

How many girls can you bang? How many times can you about the prices of exito? Last time I was in mede I was having drinks with three buddies that live down there and they were all thrilled! Super Excited! Ham was on sale! Haahhah! Or some shit like that. One of them dudes was headed back to the states. Got bored and wanted certain elements of his old life back. He did find a good girl and was cool with her kids so it is real relationship. That is another story the moving back with a chica.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1681874]Yes you are correct; I've had the same experience. Guys find that making a new life in CR or Colombia ain't as easy as they thought or the system is just too difficult to navigate vs what they were used to back home. Example a buddy had two or three sub shops back in Hartford. Sold them and was very successful. Moved to mede, met a girl, got serious, and opened up a sub shot. Failed! Had sourcing issues, crappy location, Paisas don't crave a cheese steak or a veal parm the same way we do. Then the girl and visa stuff. He lost a good chunk of his nest egg. Lesson learned I guess. I've heard of a bunch of these stories.

You are right again. There are little trips to take and adventures to be had. The issues is that there isn't enuff things to do or the things that I / you / they want to do. Golfing, hunting, fishing, are the top things that come to mind and those things are not common in mede. Neither is the beach and all the activities that go with the ocean. Same example I gave before; How many little pueblos can you visit? I was in China during college and after two months it was like "No I don't want to visit the summer palace! You seen one funny roofed building you seen them all. ".

How many girls can you bang? How many times can you about the prices of exito? Last time I was in mede I was having drinks with three buddies that live down there and they were all thrilled! Super Excited! Ham was on sale! Haahhah! Or some shit like that. One of them dudes was headed back to the states. Got bored and wanted certain elements of his old life back. He did find a good girl and was cool with her kids so it is real relationship. That is another story the moving back with a chica.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you want to watch on TV or even go see your local favorite baseball-football-basketball team's game. Or there's a certain movie you're dying to see; can't always do that in a foreign country. Some sports bars will have the games, some will not.

Yesterday went on a city tour which included Pablo Escobar and Conuma 13. Excellent. My guide also turned me on to a discount area for denim known as Super Centro De La Modsa *Itaguii* Found some fantatstic deals.

Met up with Daniella *Penelope Cruz* One hour late. ARRANGED with hotel about bringing in a companion. It was fine. Daniella looking sexy shows up. Go to hotel. They ask for documentos, she does not have any. Backe to Mayorista. Go to love motel. Chica was much different. No kissing or playing with hair. Sex needed to be slower. Thought I smelled rubber cement glue. Nonetheless a good performer. Almost cried at times. At around the 38 minute mark hotel staff opens the door and tries to charge me more money. No way. Put on my clothes, gave Daniella her 50 mil and quickly left. Done with that chica.

Ran into Jennyfer from Monday night. Looking incredibly sexy with a gold outfit and little showing. Cleopatra hairdo.

Shall finish report later.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1681621]Yesterday I discovered my bank deactivated my card. Taxied to the Santa Fe Mall and used the call center to fix my problem. I always call the bank prior to departure about what countries I shall be visiting. For some reason an ATM withdraws from the MDE airport deactivated my account. After several phone calls and wasted $, the card was reactivated. Withdrew money.

The mall was very nice. MDE is noted for denim and there was plenty available at high and low price points. Some nice eye candy. Taxied over to Relax (not New Life as incorrectly mentioned in a previous post).

Relax had a better lineup than the previous day. More cuties. Selected Marcella. Cute typical Latina. Allowed closed mouth kissing. Selected the 30 minute session and paid with credit card. Usual sucking as long as you want. Sucks to the musical beat which was nice. Poor missionary performer. However in cowgirl, she was a human jackhammer. Amazing. Cummed admirably. Massage was better than the black chica. Upon return to the lobby there were 4 to 5 mongers waiting.

The taxi ride home was an adventure. Initially I thought -- wow this guy knows the back streets since there was little traffic. However it was quickly apparent he was going in the wrong direction. It was an honest mistake since he restarted the meter. Nonetheless, the meter was still running high. Eventually got to Mayorista. Gave him 10.000 mil. Shook hands and departed.

Mayorista improves each day. Younger and hotter chicas. ISG setup a date for me with a chica from the Buenos Aires area. Scheduled to meet at Mayorsita on the corner casino. Chica looked like a young Penelope Cruz. Sexy with glitter on her face. Very sweet and nice. Sat down for a beer then headed to my hotel.

At the desk they stopped me and the chica. The ad says the room is for 1 to 2 people. Plus the desk allowed a chica to enter on Monday. Played a prerecorded English message on her cell phone about no prostitution at the hotel. Its too bad since the hotel has a panoramic city view. Oh well. Shall talk to the staff every night about bringing a chica.

Returned to mayorista. Paid 20.000 for a love hotel. It is actually for only 45 minutes. Chica was great. Very sensual and passionate. No rules. Good in every position. Sweetheart that aims to please. Again -- what a delight to receive such passion and tenderness from a hot chica at under $30 including taxi money. Waited for her outside but she probably went out the back. Nice selection of chicas that barely look 18 waiting around.

Returned to the hotel. Went to the 6th floor bar to flirt with Lina who looks Demi Moore. Unfortunately she can not date guests. What a shame![/QUOTE]When I read Shamesters post I was sure he meant my favorite hotel.

The problem is a lot of ISG members are assholes.

It must have been really bad behavior to make them have a recording in English to let mongers know. I have stayed at that hotel at least 10 times with no problems.

This kind of event makes it hard for real mongers to pass good info. It is hard to hold back good intel when you have learned much in the past from other posters, but it is what it is.

To bad a filter is not at hand to keep the bad guys from getting the good stuff. I guess that is what the PM is for.

BTW thanks for the TR.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1681621] Eventually got to Mayorista. Gave him 10.000 mil. Shook hands and departed. Mayorista improves each day. Younger and hotter chicas. ISG setup a date for me with a chica from the Buenos Aires area. Scheduled to meet at Mayorsita on the corner casino. Chica looked like a young Penelope Cruz. Sexy with glitter on her face. Very sweet and nice. Sat down for a beer then headed to my hotel.

At the desk they stopped me and the chica. The ad says the room is for 1 to 2 people. Plus the desk allowed a chica to enter on Monday. Played a prerecorded English message on her cell phone about no prostitution at the hotel. Its too bad since the hotel has a panoramic city view. Oh well. Shall talk to the staff every night about bringing a chica.[/QUOTE]Shamester,

What is the name of the hotel where they gave you and the chica the prerecorded no prostitution message?. I would like to know So I don't make a mistake in staying there.

Was it any of the three hotels bellow:

1))[URL]http://www.hotelcentralplazamedellin.com/.[/URL] At Carrera 50 # 81 A - 15 Itaqui PBX: (57) (4) 3623380 Cel: 311 375 2993 Colombia, Medellin.

2)[URL]http://www.hotelalcaravan.com/home.html.[/URL] At Carrera 50 A 84 - 09 Itag Tel: (57 - 4) 285 1000 Cel: 314 865 28 84 Colombia, Medelln.

3) Hotel Macedonia Plaza [URL]http://www.despegar.com.co/hoteles/h...plaza-medellin[/URL] at Carrera 50 A No. 84 A - 03 Itagui, Medellíand +574 362 2121 : +574 596 5533.

Thanks, Cerebro.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1682058]When I read Shamesters post I was sure he meant my favorite hotel.

The problem is a lot of ISG members are assholes.

It must have been really bad behavior to make them have a recording in English to let mongers know. I have stayed at that hotel at least 10 times with no problems.

This kind of event makes it hard for real mongers to pass good info. It is hard to hold back good intel when you have learned much in the past from other posters, but it is what it is.
[/QUOTE]Another good case for not sharing chica contact info. Guys are only loyal to their dicks and will always act out of self interest. The guy you pass this info on to may not fuck it up, but the person he passes the info on to could just as well fuck it up.

And then you're like "Hey, I thought we agreed that you wouldn't share the info I gave you with anyone else?" Hahaha.

Okay guys shall continue.

Asked Jen if she wanted to go back to the hotel. To her friend's surprise she went uptsairs and got her documents as I requested. At the Central Plaza we were denied. Jen lead me to the Macedonia since she agreed the love motels on the strip rip you off. Jen started acting like a pro. Still nice to be with a stunner. Love her strut and cocky confidence. At least the 20.000 mil fee is legit with no early knocks. BTW Mayorista was rocking. Better than any casa lineup. Faces are nice but the chicas lack the hard bodies at a strip club.

Called ISG. Taxied to his house. Started at Las Lunes. Nice chicas but a ripoff. No beers. Minimum is a bottle of whiskey that costs around $50. Strolled around and departed. Walked up the street and went to a club filled with youngsters bumping and grinding. One drink and out, Allegedly after 300 am is when you can determine who are the working girls.

Walked around trying to find casas. Blue Room was closed. Taxied to Centro. Mayorsita like feel with lower quality. Walked to a strip club. Decent chicas. 60 k for one half hour. There was one good one with a nice shaped ass and pretty face. Tempted but passed. Appreciate New Life much much more.

Returned to Mayorsita. Hot young chicas were plentiful. Found a young hot pretty chica named Juliana. Asked her to get her documents. Walked back to the hotel. Went to the desk and presented documents. Almost agreed but denied. Male Security looked at her I'd -- consented. Gave her stuff to the front staff and it was up to my room. Sweet for Mayorsita -- allowed kissing for small propina at the end. Shall finish later.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1681874]Yes you are correct; I've had the same experience. Guys find that making a new life in CR or Colombia ain't as easy as they thought or the system is just too difficult to navigate vs what they were used to back home. Example a buddy had two or three sub shops back in Hartford. Sold them and was very successful. Moved to mede, met a girl, got serious, and opened up a sub shot. Failed! Had sourcing issues, crappy location, Paisas don't crave a cheese steak or a veal parm the same way we do. Then the girl and visa stuff. He lost a good chunk of his nest egg. Lesson learned I guess. I've heard of a bunch of these stories.

You are right again. There are little trips to take and adventures to be had. The issues is that there isn't enuff things to do or the things that I / you / they want to do. Golfing, hunting, fishing, are the top things that come to mind and those things are not common in mede. Neither is the beach and all the activities that go with the ocean. Same example I gave before; How many little pueblos can you visit? I was in China during college and after two months it was like "No I don't want to visit the summer palace! You seen one funny roofed building you seen them all. ".

How many girls can you bang? How many times can you about the prices of exito? Last time I was in mede I was having drinks with three buddies that live down there and they were all thrilled! Super Excited! Ham was on sale! Haahhah! Or some shit like that. One of them dudes was headed back to the states. Got bored and wanted certain elements of his old life back. He did find a good girl and was cool with her kids so it is real relationship. That is another story the moving back with a chica.[/QUOTE]The problem is most guys do not know how to lose that Gringo mentality. Living in Latin America sounds exciting and romantic, it does have a few catches. When guys move down here for pussy it is a big mistake. Most guys never make the transition from monger to compatriot. Becoming a part of the local culture is probably the hardest transition but the most important.

Most guys, probably share their experiences of living abroad exclusively with other Gringos. No one else will understand your hesitation to try the local food, your problem with adjusting to the pace of life and your ambivalence towards social customs as well as those in the same boat. In order to make the most of living in Latin America you have to break of your comfortable little cocoon after awhile and immerse yourself in the local culture. Hell that is half of the battle.

However, after living in a foreign country for a while, little things that you initially considered charming may begin to annoy you. You will remember how everything ran on schedule back home, how clean your former hometown was, or how much more relaxed and friendly everyone seemed.

Hell I say embrace the little Quirks.

Okay I am back. Julianna was a good performer and typical of the mayorsita mindset. Continually asked for dinner and wanted propina. Nonetheless good passion. Exchanged tel numbers. A must have repeat. Nice seductive puppy eyes look.

Woke up and walked to the denim shopping area 2 blocks from the hotel. Easily over 100 stores selling denim at great prices. Negotiation to lower prices is acceptable. Also bought some nice shoes. No gringos and rather empty. Itagui is known as the denim area in Medellin.

Taxied to New Life. Another good lineup. Selected Stephenia. Nice real tits that sag a little. Soft and fun to suck and touch. Cute but slightly overweight from a child. Typical New Life performance. Selected 30 minutes. Taxi ride back to the hotel was efficient for once.

Walked around mayorsita -- lacking. Too tired from previous night so slept early. Woke up and proceeded to Mayorsita. Less noisy and lively but some nice hot young lookers. Strong police presence. Never felt at danger once. Ignore males that speak to you. Julianna was in her usual spot. Those puppy eyes are sure nice. Nice hugs but not in the mood.

[QUOTE=LatinaPassion;1682277]The problem is most guys do not know how to lose that Gringo mentality. Living in Latin America sounds exciting and romantic, it does have a few catches. When guys move down here for pussy it is a big mistake. Most guys never make the transition from monger to compatriot. Becoming a part of the local culture is probably the hardest transition but the most important.

Most guys, probably share their experiences of living abroad exclusively with other Gringos. No one else will understand your hesitation to try the local food, your problem with adjusting to the pace of life and your ambivalence towards social customs as well as those in the same boat. In order to make the most of living in Latin America you have to break of your comfortable little cocoon after awhile and immerse yourself in the local culture. Hell that is half of the battle.

However, after living in a foreign country for a while, little things that you initially considered charming may begin to annoy you. You will remember how everything ran on schedule back home, how clean your former hometown was, or how much more relaxed and friendly everyone seemed.

Hell I say embrace the little Quirks.[/QUOTE]OH yeah. That too. I hear you and I agree BUT When you are retired or of that age it gets harder to change who you are and what you want to do. In some cases what you are physically able to do.

The thing you have super right is the fact that most gringos chill and talk to other gringos. I have noticed that when my buddies have pics of parties it's always old ass gringos and a few of theri "novias" no amigos colombianos.

Very good points sir.

Hey, I'm here standing exactly where on matts map is the Lejano Orinte. It appears to be right on Las Palmas. I do not see a Carrera 31 N either. Can someone point me in the right dirrection? Yes I know people say the place has fallen off but since it's close I'd like to take a peak.

The casa was added to the map based on a members report. Please call any casas before you go.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1682501]Hey, I'm here standing exactly where on matts map is the Lejano Orinte. It appears to be right on Las Palmas. I do not see a Carrera 31 N either. Can someone point me in the right dirrection? Yes I know people say the place has fallen off but since it's close I'd like to take a peak.[/QUOTE].

There seems to be two places:

[b]Lejano Oriente[/b], Carrera 41, #18D-55, GPS: 6.220165,-75.567516. __ Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min., __k hour. Tel: ______. Hours: 10 am to 6 pm.

[b]Lejano Orinte,[/b] Carrera 31N #16-190, GPS: 6.216880,-75.561395. 25+ Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min., __k hour.
Tel: 312 867 31 95, 312 303 96 51, 312 254 32 32. Hours: 9 am to 6 pm.

This should help.

Let us know?

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1682501]Hey, I'm here standing exactly where on matts map is the Lejano Orinte. It appears to be right on Las Palmas. I do not see a Carrera 31 N either. Can someone point me in the right dirrection? Yes I know people say the place has fallen off but since it's close I'd like to take a peak.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1682548]There seems to be two places:

[b]Lejano Oriente[/b], Carrera 41, #18D-55, GPS: 6.220165,-75.567516. __ Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min., __k hour. Tel: ______. Hours: 10 am to 6 pm.

[b]Lejano Orinte,[/b] Carrera 31N #16-190, GPS: 6.216880,-75.561395. 25+ Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min., __k hour.
Tel: 312 867 31 95, 312 303 96 51, 312 254 32 32. Hours: 9 am to 6 pm.

This should help.

Let us know?[/QUOTE]Wow thanks will do! It appears Bing does a better job then Google for mapping in Medellin. Thanks for that.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1681621]Returned to the hotel. Went to the 6th floor bar to flirt with Lina who looks Demi Moore. Unfortunately she can not date guests. What a shame![/QUOTE]It's only natural hotel management will block their pretty workers from bedding down with the guests. That can create a lot of problems for management in the long and short run. But it might be possible to pick up girls working in different hotels. As a gringo, you might be able to just walk in and explore some hotels and see what's out there!

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1681874]Yes you are correct; I've had the same experience. Guys find that making a new life in CR or Colombia ain't as easy as they thought or the system is just too difficult to navigate vs what they were used to back home. Example a buddy had two or three sub shops back in Hartford. Sold them and was very successful. Moved to mede, met a girl, got serious, and opened up a sub shot. Failed! Had sourcing issues, crappy location, Paisas don't crave a cheese steak or a veal parm the same way we do. Then the girl and visa stuff. He lost a good chunk of his nest egg. Lesson learned I guess. I've heard of a bunch of these stories.[/QUOTE]A sub shop is usually a safe bet in the states; you don't need to be some business tycoon type to make it work well, but to think that kind of business experience can mean the same success in another part of the world, well, it seems kind of presumptive.

I think you've got to live at least six months in a place observing the people's customs and habits before taking such a risk. A sub shot might work in certain neighborhoods in BOG; many Bogotanos in the northern affluent sector are very cosmopolitan, more Americanized than other Colombians. Medellin, for all the talk of it being a top-tier South American city, is not as cosmopolitan; the paisas like to puff themselves up, but they are provincial in certain ways, which is actually kind of endearing to me sometimes. Let's just say I would be surprised if they started to eat at sushi shops regularly and follow other similar north american urban (or suburban / exurban) trends. Here's another example just to expand my point: let's say you ran a successful yoga or pilates studio in a mid-size city like Hartford. Does that mean you will have success in MDE? I have a hard time imagining there's significant interest in these things among the paisa girls, even if Colombians in general like to copy / follow certain American trends.

I've thought a taqueria might work in certain neighborhoods in MDE, maybe he should have gone that route. I've also fantasized of having a place called New York Pizza although I concede Colombians have their own peculiar preferences when it comes to that street food. I'd be banking on their interest in things outside of the country but it's still quite a risk. Maybe it would work in Poblado or Laureles but probably not in working-class Centro.

I'm not even going to comment on the girl / visa but it sounds like this guy was in over his head in more ways than one.

[QUOTE=LatinaPassion;1682277]The problem is most guys do not know how to lose that Gringo mentality. Living in Latin America sounds exciting and romantic, it does have a few catches. When guys move down here for pussy it is a big mistake. Most guys never make the transition from monger to compatriot. Becoming a part of the local culture is probably the hardest transition but the most important.

Most guys, probably share their experiences of living abroad exclusively with other Gringos. No one else will understand your hesitation to try the local food, your problem with adjusting to the pace of life and your ambivalence towards social customs as well as those in the same boat. In order to make the most of living in Latin America you have to break of your comfortable little cocoon after awhile and immerse yourself in the local culture. Hell that is half of the battle.

However, after living in a foreign country for a while, little things that you initially considered charming may begin to annoy you. You will remember how everything ran on schedule back home, how clean your former hometown was, or how much more relaxed and friendly everyone seemed.

Hell I say embrace the little Quirks.[/QUOTE]The classic story I hear over and over in this forum and other non-monger Colombia forums is the guy who falls in love with the "easygoing laid-back" lifestyle. But then gets totally exasperated and stressed out (ironic, isn't it?) when that "take-it-easy" attitude is applied to him by the locals with any issue encountered.

Because the guy you hired to take care of some urgent plumbing issue is also living the laid-back life that you admired so much just a few months ago, LOL! I also find a sometimes strange obsession with their chosen dwelling-place, as they try to create a kind of first-world outpost in a developing country, a near replica of what they left behind, as if they never really left (so why leave in the first place?) If you insist on top-notch first world amenities, you will either have to pay twice as much as in the states and / or deal with a lot of frustration.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1682501]Hey, I'm here standing exactly where on matts map is the Lejano Orinte. It appears to be right on Las Palmas. I do not see a Carrera 31 N either. Can someone point me in the right dirrection? Yes I know people say the place has fallen off but since it's close I'd like to take a peak.[/QUOTE]Don't know if it's still true but Lejano Oriente is a bit secretive, I think you'll need a taxi driver that knows how to get there and is known to the security guys. If I recall correctly, a guy comes out, confirms with your driver, than opens a gate to let the taxi in. It all seems ominous and mysterious, but it's about discretion and keeping some of the younger, rowdier, (and drunk) locals out.

On Saturday proceeded to New Life. Better Lineup. Some of these bigger chicas are tempting but its not my thing. Maybe these chicas are influenced by the famous Medellin artist Botero? LOL!

Selected a more exotic looking chica that was slim with a nice ass despite having a child. Started in one of those curvy sex chairs. IMO it allows chicas to gain deeper penetration. Angle to stimulate the clit could also be better. Good head. Cowgirl action was nice. It is nice to glance in the mirror to watch a slim beauty sucking your cock at grand bargain prices on your credit card.

The best part was the massage -- she went to massage school and was performing Swedish Massage. That alone can be valued at $50 plus in the US. Also performed a second pop. Extremely satisfying and worthy of a repeat.

Returned to hotel. Contacted Julianna about meeting for tonight. Set up a 600 ish time frame. Talent was okay. Thursday was better. Nonetheless there are still young hotties. My suggestion is to stay away from the hotels on the street. Find a chica, demand she bring her documentos and go to an adjacent hotel in which time is not a problem with the hotel staff.

Julianna showed up -- WOW! It was Valentines Day. She reminded me of Pocchoantus (sp?) Shared a beer then off to my hotel. The ***** with prerecorded message was at the desk. Reiterated this is a private hotel. Asked if she wanted me to play her garbage. Declined.

Walked over to the Plaza Mayor. Julianna wanted 50 mil per pop. No way. At least I was turning it around on her saying it was an American custom for females to give propina to males on V-Day. The shock on her face was comical. Joking around about propina lightens the mood especially when speaking English is challenging. Nonethess her quest for leche resulted in very nice bjing. Good rhythm in cowgirl. Nice kissing and body caressing. At the end of the day, remains a hybrid Mayorsita chica. Completed and moved on to meet up with a newly arrived ISG colleague.

Met up at Parque lleras in El Poblado. Wow! Party Central. Parade of taxis. Higher end talent. It was payday so ATMs had long lines. Met ISG at a corner bar that had 3 for 1 drink specials. The hookers are in the central park. [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] chicas. Supposedly there is a hotel in the area that allows them to use their rooms. High end escorts. May bars and clubs that were happening. Not my deal. Nice to see.

Taxied back early since I was going on a tour of Guatape. Great deal at 69.000 mil which includes 2 meals and a boat ride. Unfortunately got separated from the group. Forced to find a public bus to return to MDE. After returning from an exhausting day returned to Mayorista. Good stuff for a Sunday. Prior to deaprture, I noticed the bitches were not at the desk. Whispered to the chica about bringing a chica with documentos -- she unsurprisingly quickly consented. Felt like a teenager when your parents were away from home. ÑOL!

It was comical how the good looking ones wanted to bring their friends for three on one. No Way. A tall very sexy chica with the Librarian look was my target. A regular. Asked her if she had her documents -- yes! Attempted to talk to her without the fuglies -- she could not separate. Moved on.

It is nice to see Latinas being influenced by the Japanese Anime look. IMO it gives them an Asian look with that Latina shape. Actually found a real Japanese chica who was also Spanish from Medellin. Cute face but is slightly overweight. Speaks enough English fo us to converse but it is easier for us to speak in Japanese. Unfortunately her documents were at her casa. Phone also ran out of minutes. A big warning sign with her is saying lets get a cerveza but then orders an 8000 nil Smirnoff ice. Tried to play it off. Unsure about following up although she is fun.

For Monday its back to New Life for the early morning. Maybe walk around centro with a Spanish speaking ISG colleague to procure talent. Followup with Julianna whose phone ran out of minutes. These chicas are lame.

Just came back from the lovely city of Medellin. Always a good time. Stayed at the Mansion, which is right near the hard rock casino. Nice place, but try to get a room in the main hotel. If you get stuck in plaza 2, it is a hike up that hill. Anyway, day one, hung out at the bar at the mansion, some guy was having a party and the talent was pretty good. It's not always like this at the bar, can be hit or miss. When the talent is good, don't sleep on it. Get some numbers, so you can call them later. You may not see them again when you want to. Saw this one girl, white with black hair, face was a 9, and then an ass that didn't even match the rest of her body. All natural too. I didn't wait and took her back to the room right away. Wasn't even in the bar for more than an hour. Experience was good, although I was told that she normally is a little stiff. She had just had some of the 160 proof rum that one of the owners was offering up to the girls. Guess it loosened her up. Overall 8/10. Went back to the bar and chilled for a bit more. I ended up taking back this slim black girl, she stayed all night. The going rate for the mansion girls is 150 k. When she asked for 300 k in the morning for staying all night, I just told her, "tu quieres, no?" gave her the 150 K and money for a cab and sent her on her way. I got a little drunk the night before and when I saw her in the morning, I realized she had a six pack. Little out of my style, don't really like the super toned look. But oh well, live and learn.

The next day, went down to centro to the strip clubs, Maracaibo and Executivo. Check the monger map and you will see them, right next to each other. Wanted to get a quick one in and then relax. I messed up though, got down there too early and was told that the clubs don't open until 3. Don't make the same mistake. LOL. Got some food and then went over to Abydos, also on the map. The mamasan here is beautiful, she must be in her late 30's but the body is on point. I would have taken her over any of the girls working there, but that did not appear to be an option at the time. Took a short pretty one, don't remember the name. I made her give me the full massage and then we got into it, BBBJ and all the positions, she was small enough to just lift up and have fun with. Tipped her out 20 k and paid the mamasan I think 138 K including drink. She was happy with the tip.

Went back to Mansion and chilled at the bar for a bit. There was another party going on this night as well. Just my luck. They had this thing that a girl rides and there is a dildo on the top of it, it has controls for speed and vibration. She put on a show. Little slim girl rode it with a mask on, like Zorro. Sexy ass body though. Had plenty to drink, got some numbers there and ended up taking a nice blond haired girl back to the room. She was about a 7/10 face, but the experience was 9/10. She loved sex and really got into it. Careful with her braces though. Many girls here get braces in their 20's, and not all of them know how to work around them yet. After this, hit up Mayorista. I call it Mayors. The talent here wasn't bad, but I was kind of running low on cash. Don't like rolling around with cards and what not, just a set amount of cash. Found one to take back into the little dumpy rooms and it was 40 k I believe. There were several better ones that I saw when I came out, but it was too late and I called it a night.

The pool at the Mansion was kind of garbage this time. I guess its hit and miss. I remember one trip when I stayed there, that girls would show up around 1 or 2 and there would be up to 15 girls just chilling around the pool having drinks and a good time. This time, there might have been one or two stragglers, but most every girl was invited by a guest and they just sat with the guest, didn't bring any friends and so it was not a good scene at the pool. I heard that the girls hang out at the salon that they built in the back, but checked it out and there was no talent back there either. The guys that stay at the Mansion are normally pretty cool and you can share war stories with them, so that part was kind of fun, but alas, I'm here for the women and only have a limited time.

I had met a girl on Badoo, before I came down, so I decided to hit her up. She came by the Mansion bar and met me there. I'm never sure if girls are pro's or not on badoo. Anyway, we went out and hit up Parque Lleras and then Fahrenheit. It was a good time and she really seemed into me, at the end of the night, she didn't want to come to the room. WTF? So we parted ways and I just knocked out. The next day, I called her up again, just to take one more crack at it. This girl has a 8/10 face and body. So it seemed worth the shot. We went to a restaurant to eat and struggled through some conversation, my Spanish is second rate and her English is even worse. Still getting the feeling from this girl that she likes me though. It was pouring down rain that day, and I told her this was perfect weather to just chill and watch a movie. She agreed and came back to the room. Long story short, it took a while, but we eventually got it in. She was definitely into it. Chilled out for a while after and then sent her on the way. Gave her money for a cab and she didn't say a word about anything else. Still don't trust that she didn't want something. But some of these girls will work this angle and then tell you that they need money for the light bill or school for their children. I think it can be a lot more costly this way, so I am always cautious. I told her I was leaving in about a week, but was leaving the next day. Figured that if she was going to hit me up, it might be the next time I saw her, so I never saw her again before I left and told her that I got called back for work. Like I said, still not sure what her angle was, but with the lack of communication, it was hard to judge.

Last night in Medellin. Started at the Mansion bar again. When you stay here, it is always a good place to start. It was kind of dead. One of the guys said the weekends are dead because all the girls want to go out with their boyfriends. Haha. Got another number and set something up for the morning before I jumped my flight. Hit up San Diego. I always like this club. I hear people say good and bad things about it. I always seem to have a good time and the girls are always hot. I took one girl back probably a 7/10 face and body. 120 k for her and I think 35 k for the room. It was fun, but then the knocking at the door began. They are time conscious here, so be ready. I chose not to pay for more time and went back out to the dance area. Got another number and then got ready to leave. Ate some hot dogs from the street vendor right out front, they put all sorts of shit in it, pretty good too. Rolled over to Mayors again, but didn't see anything I liked so ended up just going to the room.

The next morning, got up to a knock on the door and was pleasantly surprised. I answered it and there was some cute chick I've never seen. She said sorry she had the wrong room and I was a bit disappointed. Well the other girl should be here soon. Soon never came however. That sucks. Left to the airport with no morning send off. Not the way to head back to the states, but girls are notorious for standing you up.

Which hotel are you staying in? What part of Medellin are you staying in? Sounds like a big hassle if the hotel is not girl friendly. Even if its economical now you have to go elsewhere just to enjoy the chicas.

Shamester,

Thanks for the reports. They are pretty good and informative. Seems you are having great fun in various settings. Next time I'm in Medellin I plan on checking Mayorista and stay in a hotel in that area. I just don't understand why you keep staying in the Hotel Central Plaza [URL]http://www.hotelcentralplazamedellin.com/[/URL] where they have that obnoxious prerecorded no prostitution message. I don't care how nice is that Hotel, but if that is what they do each time you bring a chica, I would not stay in there for more than one night. They clearly don't want prostitutes there. In any case, great reports and thanks you for sharing. I think I got some good ideas from you and quite valuable information from all of your reports.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1683241]On Saturday proceeded to New Life. Better Lineup. Some of these bigger chicas are tempting but its not my thing. Maybe these chicas are influenced by the famous Medellin artist Botero? LOL!

Selected a more exotic looking chica that was slim with a nice ass despite having a child. Started in one of those curvy sex chairs. IMO it allows chicas to gain deeper penetration. Angle to stimulate the clit could also be better. Good head. Cowgirl action was nice. It is nice to glance in the mirror to watch a slim beauty sucking your cock at grand bargain prices on your credit card.

The best part was the massage -- she went to massage school and was performing Swedish Massage. That alone can be valued at $50 plus in the US. Also performed a second pop. Extremely satisfying and worthy of a repeat.

Returned to hotel. Contacted Julianna about meeting for tonight. Set up a 600 ish time frame. Talent was okay. Thursday was better. Nonetheless there are still young hotties. My suggestion is to stay away from the hotels on the street. Find a chica, demand she bring her documentos and go to an adjacent hotel in which time is not a problem with the hotel staff...[/QUOTE]

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First, it depends who is working the front desk. Sunday was fine but the desirable chicas possessed no documentos. For Monday, the hotel was available for chicas but I was already spent from 3 chicas at New Life. Medellin is very humid and warmer than expected. This hotel has central air with fan while other cheaper ones on the same street only have fans. Air con is important for me. Moving around is a hassle. Some of you guys are impatient and inflexible. Normal gringo mentality. LOL!

BTW the area around Botero square has love hotels with decent looking chicas for early morning -- much better than Mayorista.

Started early Monday morning at New Life. Decent line-up. Selected a white girl named Jessica. Nice natural tits. Cute face. Nice head with tongue swirls at the tip of the head. Decent cowgirl action. Love the fact that you pay after -- allows to either go for 15 minutes or up to 2 hours. My preference is 30 minutes which allows to sample more chicas -- sort of like beer or wine tasting.

Walked around the area since I wanted to sample more chicas later. Carrera 46 reminds of Buenos Aires. Lots of shopping. Found a nice shopping center called Real Camino. Found a store selling cheap denim and could not resist. Also got a pedicure and manicure for 20.000 mil -- it was nice having 2 chicas pampering you simultaneously. Better than sex -- LOL!

Walked around to check out other casas. Found Juliana and Coffee Shop. Both were horrible. Nice casas but lineup was substandard. Returned to New Life. Bigger and better lineup. Packed with at least 10 patrons around 100 pm. Selected Natalia -- Venus Williams lookalike. WOW! Foreplay was amazing. Sucks and licks your nipples in a delightful manner. Gently plays with your sack. Amazing natural tetas which she know how to manipulate with your penis. The feeling is indescribable. Decided to pleasure myself which she gently assisted. Good massage as well. Does tln for 300 mil. Allows kissing with mouth closed.

On my way out there was another black chica with an exotic Naomi Campbell look that was occupied named Melinda. As I was paying noticed a Jessica Alba lookalike named Joanna. Unable to pass on. Another WOW! Fun girl that loves fast music. Nice twirling action when performing BJ. Excellent in all positions. Her doggie was great with a beautiful arched back and hard ramming movements. Finally cummed in missionary in which she moved and positioned herself in ways to make you cum. A definite pro in finding a suitable position for you to cum in. No real kissing or tln.

Debating about whether to return today since I am satisfied and want to do more sightseeing and going to Cartagena on Wednesday. These bargain beauties are too tempting and could easily top thousands in the US.

Mayorsita was better than the previous Monday. There is enough young talent to satisfy. No real competition amongst mongers as opposed to New Life.

On my final day, I was unable to secure a guide for the Parque Arvi Metro Cable Ride. It was tempting to buy more denim but my suitcase is maxed out. Viva Colombia only allows 20 k - my bag was over and was forced to remove items to a backpack thus saving 20.000 mil.

Arrived at New Life which imo is as good as any casa in the Americas for value and hotness of the girls. Kiss fresh in El Salvador is also very good and a much nicer facility. Generally BA casas provide better service but cost more. Arrived around 1100 am. The lineup was surprisingly poor. Walked around and decided to return.

The return produced a much better lineup but not as good as the previous day. Selected a chica with a slim nice rack and a good face named Mari. Much too prissy. Entered the room and started doing selfies of her great breast. Loved looking in the mirror. Decent BJ. Bounced around in cowgirl. Nice natural breasts. After cumming, I asked for a massage. She declined. Stopped after 15 minutes. Again you are paying more their beauty than their service. Told the manager she was terrible. The other girls wondered what was going on since I had been a loyal customer with zero issues. An English speaking female was brought out with the girl. Explained the issue. Informed other mongers to stay away. The crowd was growing.

Natalia showed up in a sexy pink outfit. Quickly grabbed her. She asked if everything was fine- I responded yes. This time I decided to minimize the foreplay and titty fucking- very challenging since she excels in these areas. She finally understood who was Venus Williams. Good to great BJ. Cowgirl action was surprisingly average. Does not use her booty weight to bounce and grind -- felt more like an anorexic girl. Natalia enjoys providing superior tongue action on your nipples with a gentle fondling of your sack. The feeling again is wonderful. Shot and finished with a nice massage. Cumming with her always feels better compared to others.

Returned to the lobby and stated shooting the breeze with an American that was on holiday for 2 weeks in Medellin. My beloved Jessica Alba was not around. But spotted another mulatta beauty named Melissa. Beautiful face and thighs. Its interesting that mulatta chicas downplay their blackness in Colombia compared to other countries. Very straight hair and black which reminded of a Bollywood actress. Already knew she was another prissy narcissist chica.

Melissa dictated by demanding massage first. BJ was very good. Reverse cowgirl was a nice change. Good front cowgirl as well. Finished in missionary in which she laid there like a log. Asked why I closed my eyes sometimes. Way too self absorbed. Nonetheless value trumps everything else. Its always a win at new life.

In retrospect imo it is better to stay in a place like Gran hotel and walk daily to new life. During the evening and early morning Mayorsita is very good. Just make sure you select an adjacent hotel off the strip. Prior to my airport departure, I walked to get some breakfast. Numerous hotties.

MDE was great for chicas and buying denim. My lack of Spanish makes this a one and done. A definite must for all global mongers. Onto CTG.

Been in Medellin for seven months and am having a blast! It's hard to believe so many beauties can be packed into one city, and the way paisas treat a man in bed, well it's no wonder they are famous in other countries where they travel to work. Still, the cream of the crop seems to stay right here in Medellin.

Referring to the discussion of retired guys getting bored here, I'm too young to be retired so maybe it's different, but I'm not sure how anybody could get bored in this city!

Does anyone know of any Medellin prepago pickup bars outside of the well known strip joints?

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1684152]Been in Medellin for seven months and am having a blast! It's hard to believe so many beauties can be packed into one city, and the way paisas treat a man in bed, well it's no wonder they are famous in other countries where they travel to work. Still, the cream of the crop seems to stay right here in Medellin.

Referring to the discussion of retired guys getting bored here, I'm too young to be retired so maybe it's different, but I'm not sure how anybody could get bored in this city![/QUOTE]Some dudes are on fixed incomes so money even in a Colombia is tight. They can't go blow millions in a night. Also might have kids to support back home and other financial concerns. Also physical stuff. Some guys have bad backs, knees, ect. So they can't go out dancing or don't want to.

How many working girls can you bang? Go to Lleres and get into a convo with the NARP meeting in Juan Valdez. Just listen in. You'll hear all of their concerns, complaints, and cry babying.

Another poster put a very good point. They are unable to break out of the gringo shell. Guys been living down there for how many years and their Spanish still sucks? No real Colombian amigos? Sad. They are in a country and are unable or unwilling to connect. Sad.

Sitting on bench on Plaza Botero totally paralyzed after strolling down Calle 52 and stretch Cundinamarca. I am from Dinamarca by the way. Can't make a choice between so many beauties. By the way, anybody wants some fiesta some day with old fart?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1684239]Some dudes are on fixed incomes so money even in a Colombia is tight. They can't go blow millions in a night. Also might have kids to support back home and other financial concerns. Also physical stuff. Some guys have bad backs, knees, ect. So they can't go out dancing or don't want to.

How many working girls can you bang? Go to Lleres and get into a convo with the NARP meeting in Juan Valdez. Just listen in. You'll hear all of their concerns, complaints, and cry babying.

Another poster put a very good point. They are unable to break out of the gringo shell. Guys been living down there for how many years and their Spanish still sucks? No real Colombian amigos? Sad. They are in a country and are unable or unwilling to connect. Sad.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think you're right. Also, some forget what brought them here in the first place. They had all the golf and fishing they wanted back home, but sex prison made it so they didn't get laid often by beautiful, sexy, and feminine women. Once they move abroad and have more women in a year than they had the prior twenty years, all they can think about is the great golf they gave up!

[QUOTE=FarToMan;1684263]Sitting on bench on Plaza Botero totally paralyzed after strolling down Calle 52 and stretch Cundinamarca. I am from Dinamarca by the way. Can't make a choice between so many beauties. By the way, anybody wants some fiesta some day with old fart?[/QUOTE]I was just in Cundinamerica area Monday buying some inexpensive clothes as gifts for some ladies, and there was lots of candy to see (and do). I'll head back that way again either Saturday or early next week, and am always up for a beer if you're around, or anybody else would like to stroll Centro?

Excellent reports by Jnaasty and Shamester. Thank you and we sincerely appreciate the effort.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1622283][URL]www.colombiajake.com[/URL] not hard at all USA 727-498-1680.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the steady flow of cool guys coming through over the last month or two both Jay's, Jaz, Long, Jose, Nate and lots more! My place always has fun guys and community to hang with. Karen is still looking for fun, along with a cute new one named Yeria as well as Carolina and Johanna with the Bunny Ears! Always lots to choose from but you have to stay here to enjoy the fun along with tours and a fun atmosphere we look forward to lending a hand on your vacation!

Thanks,

Jake

[QUOTE=FarToMan;1684263]Sitting on bench on Plaza Botero totally paralyzed after strolling down Calle 52 and stretch Cundinamarca. I am from Dinamarca by the way. Can't make a choice between so many beauties. By the way, anybody wants some fiesta some day with old fart?[/QUOTE]A note for other readers, travelling to the west and northwest, Calle 52 is more commonly known as LaPlaya, which then curves and is called Calle 53, known as DeGrieff, when then curves and as is known as Carrera 56, confused yet? I hope you were NOT the old fart with the white panama hat and carrying a lonely planet Colombia guide in his hand in the Occidental strip club last week, he stopped to look or rather stared on 2 occasions at a paisa dancer at the table next me with 3 very dark colombianos, I think if it had happened in LA he might not be in good health later that night. There are 9 strip clubs within a 2 block radius of the museum, I think I have only seen 4 out the 9 mentioned on ISG. I asked a dancer in one of the other 5 clubs last year, do you ever see any gringos in here, her answer "only you", not sure if that was the truth but I only see another gringo in maybe 1 in 15 visits. The Occidental is the best of the "other 5", interior nicer than the Maracaibo, more lights, you can see the faces on everyone in the club, less chicas though. I travel alone and exit that whole western area by 10 pm, and head back to what I call the safe area, Maracaibo, calle 53. I am the guy in the black cap, black t-shirt, black pants, stop and have a beer, speak Canadian and gringo-spanish. My paisa novia is the same age as my grand daughter so I guess maybe I am an old fart also.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1684264]Yes, I think you're right. Also, some forget what brought them here in the first place. They had all the golf and fishing they wanted back home, but sex prison made it so they didn't get laid often by beautiful, sexy, and feminine women. Once they move abroad and have more women in a year than they had the prior twenty years, all they can think about is the great golf they gave up![/QUOTE]This topic of getting bored during a lengthy stay in a foreign destination is one that has engaged my mind for a long time. There are periods of boredom in my month long trips abroad. For the new monger abroad it is not usually an issue but for the seasoned monger it is. In the US we get bored as far as sexual activity is concerned but otherwise its ok. In a city like MDE sexual activity is great but there is a lack of excitement otherwise. What if there was a city like NY with the mongering of MDE then that would be paradise. However, that does not exist. For me personally, to not be bored in, for example, a year long or more stay in Mde I would have to steer away from mongering after a while and settle with a Colombian girl friend with whom I will do a number of things including travelling throughout the country or visiting nearby countries.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1684558]This topic of getting bored during a lengthy stay in a foreign destination is one that has engaged my mind for a long time. There are periods of boredom in my month long trips abroad. For the new monger abroad it is not usually an issue but for the seasoned monger it is. In the US we get bored as far as sexual activity is concerned but otherwise its ok. In a city like MDE sexual activity is great but there is a lack of excitement otherwise. What if there was a city like NY with the mongering of MDE then that would be paradise. However, that does not exist. For me personally, to not be bored in, for example, a year long or more stay in Mde I would have to steer away from mongering after a while and settle with a Colombian girl friend with whom I will do a number of things including travelling throughout the country or visiting nearby countries.[/QUOTE]That sounds about right, and the nice thing is that finding an attractive girlfriend is easily done here in MDE, assuming the guy makes some effort. One other option is to not choose only the US or MDE, but to stay 9-10 months in the favorite place, then spend a month on the other place 2 x / year. If possible, I'd choose to live in MDE 5 months, go back to the US for a month, then return back to home base here. Repeat in another 5 months.

No doubt, having a girlfriend takes a man a long way towards contentedness when living in a foreign country.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1684522]A note for other readers, travelling to the west and northwest, Calle 52 is more commonly known as LaPlaya, which then curves and is called Calle 53, known as DeGrieff, when then curves and as is known as Carrera 56, confused yet? I hope you were NOT the old fart with the white panama hat and carrying a lonely planet Colombia guide in his hand in the Occidental strip club last week, he stopped to look or rather stared on 2 occasions at a paisa dancer at the table next me with 3 very dark colombianos, I think if it had happened in LA he might not be in good health later that night. There are 9 strip clubs within a 2 block radius of the museum, I think I have only seen 4 out the 9 mentioned on ISG. I asked a dancer in one of the other 5 clubs last year, do you ever see any gringos in here, her answer "only you", not sure if that was the truth but I only see another gringo in maybe 1 in 15 visits. The Occidental is the best of the "other 5", interior nicer than the Maracaibo, more lights, you can see the faces on everyone in the club, less chicas though. I travel alone and exit that whole western area by 10 pm, and head back to what I call the safe area, Maracaibo, calle 53. I am the guy in the black cap, black t-shirt, black pants, stop and have a beer, speak Canadian and gringo-spanish. My paisa novia is the same age as my grand daughter so I guess maybe I am an old fart also.[/QUOTE]Cannot picture the location of Occidental. Near Maracaibo?

I am heading that way in a couple of months and always looking for new spots. Lucky for me I blend. Sorta.

Here is some info on it.

[URL]http://guiacolombia.com.co/empresas/bar-occidental.html[/URL]

The Map is in the wrong area, but you can use it to find it.

[QUOTE=Concarne;1684580]Cannot picture the location of Occidental. Near Maracaibo?

I am heading that way in a couple of months and always looking for new spots. Lucky for me I blend. Sorta.[/QUOTE]

Went down to El Centro and wandered down Calle 52 which turns into 53, then over towards Parque Bolivar. Just before I got to the park I ducked into a place I haven't been to in months, think it's called Sexy Fantasy or something like that, in a little strip mall. Walk to the back and up the stairs to second floor.

The girl at the desk (duena?, great ass) was friendly and answered all my questions, then called the girls out for the show. Now I remember why I haven't been to this place much since I've been in MDE, they had 16-18 girls but most were far too chubby for my taste. Luckily there was one petite blond, cute face, nice skin. Her name is Daniella if I recall correctly, and she's a believable 19 years of age.

I only took the half hour, mostly because if it's good you can always go longer anyway or tip for special services, and if it's terrible, even 5 minutes is too much. The only downside to the short time option is the girls sometimes are not as enthusiastic, which I can understand because they are taking in your cock either way and still have to clean up afterward, but with the half hour option they only make half as much. In any case she gave an OK BBBJ and had a pretty, totally shaved, tight pussy. Nice, firm be-cup titties. Blowjob for 5 minutes, fucked for 10-15, and she popped my nut. Good enough but would not repeat since there are too many girls here in the land of milk and honey.

The corner north of the museum is Calle 53 'Degrieff' and Cr 52, on that corner is Conejitas 'has been mentioned in ISG' from the corner walk north one block on Carrera 52 to the next corner of the same block and there is the "Occidental". Going north from that corner can not be good for health even in the day time. Going west 2 blocks from there ok before 10 but be more watchful, a no go further west. The tossed grenade that exploded on the street last summer was on Degrieff. The clubs in this area differ from the Maracaibo and Barras in that visited by Colombianos after work, more a 6 pm to 9 pm showtime than the other 2 which can be dead until 10 pm. Friday and Saturday are the big nights, Sunday night better than Monday thru Wednesday. IMHO Colombians far more respectful of elders than in other western countries, maybe that is why me as an old fart can travel in what other may consider 'no go' areas of mde. So maybe a 30 yr old gringo may be hassled but not a 60+. I think the respect I see for elders comes from being raised in a house with multi generations.

I've been waiting to post this, but it seems timely now that the Occidental has come up.

Here are the addresses for a couple that don't get a lot of attention here:

[B]Grill Nueva Avenida[/B], Calle 53 #51-18. Saturday, 9 pm. Pretty busy, I counted 25 girls and about the same number of guys. So ratio was pretty good. Beer 4 k. No one really caught my eye, but with that ratio, the odds are good to find someone. Closed this Wednesday night.

[B]Taberna Victoria[/B], Calle 53 #52 A-26. Had a beer at the tienda immediately outside, but didn't go inside.

[B]Grill Occidental[/B], Carrera 52 #53-158 (online address; I didn't see a number posted and had estimated 53-149 for the address).

And my two cents on the more popular ones:

[B]Barra Ejecutiva[/B] around midnight Saturday. Metric crap-ton of guys, not many girls to be seen. Went with a girl I knew (in the biblical sense) from last year. Asked 70 k, up from I think 60 k starting price last year. Entrance to rooms in now through the mens' room shitter -- forgot to press for details, but she said the place is illegal, so I guess they got busted sometime during the last year. Same dirty cramped rooms as before, but at least that means the fan is right on top of you. Have seen very little talent here on 3-4 visits. In general I feel there are fewer of the diamonds in the rough here than last year, although on Wednesday I met one girl who just came over from La Isla; she told me she'd rather make 80 k and work faster than wait for 150 k there.

[B]Maracaibo[/B] Horrible ratio first time, 0 talent second time, 3rd time nothing except a coked up girl who first demanded a drink, then a 5 k tip. Last year the girls I met here were also deep into the polvo, but at least they worth your 50-60 k.

[B]Conejitas[/B] Never saw anything worthwhile there last year. Frist trip went with a 20 year old from comuna 13. Rooms upstairs are palatial compared to Ejecutiva or Maracaibo. Asking price started out at 80 k. On 2 return visits didn't even see anyone worth buying a drink for.

If anyone is interested in finding / checking out the other 3/9 mentioned, shoot me a PM.

Parque Bolivar. Wow, just had nice sex with stunning 19 yo. Rubia, typical Colombian Rubia. Sex ordinary, but her fantastic body, big sprout tits, tight little teen pussy and very white skin (don't get me wrong, the last 10 I years I had mainly black GF's in DR and before that Rio and Salvador. Club Fantasia Calle 54,35 k half hour!

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1684879]Went down to El Centro and wandered down Calle 52 which turns into 53, then over towards Parque Bolivar. Just before I got to the park I ducked into a place I haven't been to in months, think it's called Sexy Fantasy or something like that, in a little strip mall. Walk to the back and up the stairs to second floor.

The girl at the desk (duena?, great ass) was friendly and answered all my questions, then called the girls out for the show. Now I remember why I haven't been to this place much since I've been in MDE, they had 16-18 girls but most were far too chubby for my taste. Luckily there was one petite blond, cute face, nice skin. Her name is Daniella if I recall correctly, and she's a believable 19 years of age.

I only took the half hour, mostly because if it's good you can always go longer anyway or tip for special services, and if it's terrible, even 5 minutes is too much. The only downside to the short time option is the girls sometimes are not as enthusiastic, which I can understand because they are taking in your cock either way and still have to clean up afterward, but with the half hour option they only make half as much. In any case she gave an OK BBBJ and had a pretty, totally shaved, tight pussy. Nice, firm be-cup titties. Blowjob for 5 minutes, fucked for 10-15, and she popped my nut. Good enough but would not repeat since there are too many girls here in the land of milk and honey.[/QUOTE]Think we shared today, didn't see your report till after upload my own. Nice wasn't she, yeah!

Shamester, thanks for the posts. You seem to have been to San Jose and Medellin on this trip of yours.

Overall which would you recommend. For example:

San Jose- Costa Rica:

-Fly into the airport, easy taxi cab to Hotel Del Rey.

-Room rate $55 plus tax.

-$10 chica fee.

-Environment: women from 6 to 10's in terms of looks and body all over the bar and casino. Pick and choose.

-Short time from anywhere $60 to $80.

-All night anywhere from $150-$300.

-Spanish helps BUT not needed, many girls speak english or you can use translator, they have wifi. Very easy for anyone to come visit, be safe, find great looking girls.

Medellin.

Never been there but thank you for the posts. Since you have been to both places very recently wanted to see your thoughts and comparison.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1685055]Shamester, thanks for the posts. You seem to have been to San Jose and Medellin on this trip of yours.

Overall which would you recommend. For example:

San Jose- Costa Rica:

-Fly into the airport, easy taxi cab to Hotel Del Rey.

-Room rate $55 plus tax.

-$10 chica fee.

-Environment: women from 6 to 10's in terms of looks and body all over the bar and casino. Pick and choose.

-Short time from anywhere $60 to $80.

-All night anywhere from $150-$300.

-Spanish helps BUT not needed, many girls speak english or you can use translator, they have wifi. Very easy for anyone to come visit, be safe, find great looking girls.

Medellin.

Never been there but thank you for the posts. Since you have been to both places very recently wanted to see your thoughts and comparison.[/QUOTE]I've been to both places and its no comparison. The chica union at Del Rey can be ruthless with their prices and rules. Before they give you their name they say "Cien" then once at the room they want pay upfront and condom blow job. If you get a Del Rey girl down to 60 usd for st, she is probably average looking with a stomach pouch. Zona blue was the best spot because the chicas gave you a discount if you stayed at the hotel. Haven't been back since and that was almost two years ago, don't think the chicas have gotten any sweeter since then. Lets face it, guys have over-payed for years at Del Rey and the chic as are milking them for everything. Who pays 300 tln at any Latin America country? Guys who have money to spend and don't care about pricing.

Medellin on the other hand you get a more total experience if you want that. They are beautiful, sweet and fair. I like to hangout and check talent during the night, then I get the number. The next day I invite her over before work in the afternoon. Usually from around 3 pm till she leaves for work at 9 pm, and I pay 120 k for my afternoon delight. Its a no-rush affair, we relax then have sex, eat a pizza then have sex, then watch television and have sex before she goes.

Once you hit Medellin you will be asking yourself why you were in CR in the first place LOL.

Shamester;.

"These bargain beauties are too tempting and could easily top thousands in the US. ".

Hello!

I would like to know; what we pay for in MDE, what would it cost in the US?

P4 P is very estricted in my Pirateland, and I have never been to the US, nor German Partytreff or Amsterdams Red Light District.

Back in Copenhagen prices are among the most expensive, like Dubai, London or Paris.

Shamester; How priceworthy are MDE compared to US?

I have also gringo friends in MDE that implies, that the service itself, the performance is uncomparable; colombianas give you GFE while.

Just a relflexion; is MDE a bargain, a "hidden diamond" Still?

Dude, stop trying to make comparisons. As Gogo was just saying that is why Costa Rica went to shit. You go and pay the local prices. Fuck what you paid in London, Ghana, or Antarctica. Just know that in MDE it is going to be way less than home, so don't go throwing money around fucking shit up because of what it would cost somewhere else.

Remove the GFE part -- in Las Vegas these chicas could easily fetch $500 US per hour. In my home area -- $200 US plus per hour.

New Life is maybe the best bargain in the Americas.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1685122]Shamester;.

"These bargain beauties are too tempting and could easily top thousands in the US. ".

Hello!

I would like to know; what we pay for in MDE, what would it cost in the US?

P4 P is very estricted in my Pirateland, and I have never been to the US, nor German Partytreff or Amsterdams Red Light District.

Back in Copenhagen prices are among the most expensive, like Dubai, London or Paris.

Shamester; How priceworthy are MDE compared to US?

I have also gringo friends in MDE that implies, that the service itself, the performance is uncomparable; colombianas give you GFE while.

Just a relflexion; is MDE a bargain, a "hidden diamond" Still?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1685122]Shamester;.

"These bargain beauties are too tempting and could easily top thousands in the US. ".

Hello!

I would like to know; what we pay for in MDE, what would it cost in the US?

P4 P is very estricted in my Pirateland, and I have never been to the US, nor German Partytreff or Amsterdams Red Light District.

Back in Copenhagen prices are among the most expensive, like Dubai, London or Paris.

Shamester; How priceworthy are MDE compared to US?

I have also gringo friends in MDE that implies, that the service itself, the performance is uncomparable; colombianas give you GFE while.

Just a relflexion; is MDE a bargain, a "hidden diamond" Still?[/QUOTE]There is no comparison to the US. Forget the astronomical cost for anything decent, or the fact you could go to prison if the girl has any drugs on her (which is likely), or the decent possibility you get set up and robbed by her "crew". I've never seen a place as restrictive as the US, try enjoying sex while you're waiting for the door to get bashed in. The worst thing is you don't know who to expect first, the cops or the thugs. Only way to avoid that fiasco is to pay way too much for marginal pussy with an attitude.

The US is good for one thing though if you're the right look / image (thug with baggy pants), and that's free sex with sloppy drunk or drugged up sluts. Get some booze and meth, then look for the first you find and you won't have to pay a dime after that. As long as you don't mind scraggly hair, zits, and a few teeth missing, you'll be in heaven. Just hope she doesn't call her boyfriends or the cops for any of a million reasons, or show up at your house 9 hours later.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1685122]Shamester;.

"These bargain beauties are too tempting and could easily top thousands in the US. ".

Hello!

I would like to know; what we pay for in MDE, what would it cost in the US?

P4 P is very estricted in my Pirateland, and I have never been to the US, nor German Partytreff or Amsterdams Red Light District.

Back in Copenhagen prices are among the most expensive, like Dubai, London or Paris.

Shamester; How priceworthy are MDE compared to US?

I have also gringo friends in MDE that implies, that the service itself, the performance is uncomparable; colombianas give you GFE while.

Just a relflexion; is MDE a bargain, a "hidden diamond" Still?[/QUOTE]Ya bet! Cundinamarca guy!

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1658988]Being one of the pejoratively labeled "old farts" that posts here, I was amused by your observations. Notwithstanding the obvious lack of class and civility, I understand what you wrote: 1. You and your wingman are young, handsome and "have game. " You two left Lleras "empty handed. " Old farts "wouldn't have as much luck as you and your buddy.

Hey, I guess we are in agreement. I can't imagine anyone experienced with women leaving Lleras without beautiful and willing company. I must admite that the naivety of our young, handsome and dashing colleagues makes me smile. You're not sure if the girls were "working" or by happenstance found "some guys who wanted to give them some cash for some P. ".

Grasshoppers, if they have a vagina, they are "working. " There is no such thing a free pussy! Integrate that truth into your reality.

Merry Christmas and more adventures and good energy for the new year.[/QUOTE]Fantastic answer, girls in DR and here have not got youth and looks as 1. Priority. From the youth's report easy too see why empty handed!

I have lived in both MED and SJO and I prefer SJO. If you stay out of the fucking Del Rey, the prices for pussy are about the same, assuming you have some reasonable level of Spanish. Food prices are higher in SJO but IMHO the food is also better. I don't find Colombian food to be particularly good, throwing whatever leftovers into an 'arepa. ' SJO is safer and more walkable, and has less silicone. Some guys like fake tits and fake butts and so for those gentlemen perhaps MED would be better. The taxistas are not nearly as dishonest in SJO as in MED, probably because there is more accountability, only one taxi per license, and so it's less likely that your driver at any given time is the cousin of the nephew of the brother-in-law of the owner. And from SJO you can be at the beach in a couple of hours. Just one man's opinion but maybe worth something since I've lived both places.

Well said, Dickhead. It's good to hear from people with your experience.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1685365]I have lived in both MED and SJO and I prefer SJO. If you stay out of the fucking Del Rey, the prices for pussy are about the same, assuming you have some reasonable level of Spanish. Food prices are higher in SJO but IMHO the food is also better. I don't find Colombian food to be particularly good, throwing whatever leftovers into an 'arepa. ' SJO is safer and more walkable, and has less silicone. Some guys like fake tits and fake butts and so for those gentlemen perhaps MED would be better. The taxistas are not nearly as dishonest in SJO as in MED, probably because there is more accountability, only one taxi per license, and so it's less likely that your driver at any given time is the cousin of the nephew of the brother-in-law of the owner. And from SJO you can be at the beach in a couple of hours. Just one man's opinion but maybe worth something since I've lived both places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1685365]Food prices are higher in SJO but IMHO the food is also better. I don't find Colombian food to be particularly good, throwing whatever leftovers into an 'arepa. ' [/QUOTE]I've never been to SJO, but I have to agree: the food in Medellin is crap! I mean breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I find myself having to stick to chains like KFC and Domino's for something tasty (Frisby is ok). But you can't eat that shit all day every day.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1685262]There is no comparison to the US. Forget the astronomical cost for anything decent, or the fact you could go to prison if the girl has any drugs on her (which is likely), or the decent possibility you get set up and robbed by her "crew". I've never seen a place as restrictive as the US, try enjoying sex while you're waiting for the door to get bashed in. [b]The worst thing is you don't know who to expect first, the cops or the thugs.[/b] Only way to avoid that fiasco is to pay way too much for marginal pussy with an attitude.
[/QUOTE]This guy gets it!

The best thing you can do while in sex prison (USA) is to keep your head low and make your money until you get the chance to be paroled (international travel for mongering).

[QUOTE=Chesscat;1685378]Well said, Dickhead. It's good to hear from people with your experience.[/QUOTE]I've also experienced both SJO and Medellin a gazillion times over.
Medellin for me by a mile, or more.

For now though, the northern girls of Brazil have stolen my heart, Lol
A whole different world altogether.

Now say, for example, I had very little time left to live and I could only monger one more time for say a week, and I could only go to MDE or SJO. Under that set of circumstances I would go to MDE because it is the more outrageous of the two, assuming money is no factor (which since I am dying I would just take out a huge credit card advance; whoever dies with the most unsecured debt, wins). Somewhere around the two week mark SJO would overtake MDE, because everyday life is simpler and safer in SJO (and Costa Rica overall) than in MDE (and in Colombia overall).

LOL, "her white skin," but "don't get me wrong, last 10 years had mainly black GF's = "I have black friends, I'm not racist LOL!

[QUOTE=FarToMan;1685017]Parque Bolivar. Wow, just had nice sex with stunning 19 yo. Rubia, typical Colombian Rubia. Sex ordinary, but her fantastic body, big sprout tits, tight little teen pussy and very white skin (don't get me wrong, the last 10 I years I had mainly black GF's in DR and before that Rio and Salvador. Club Fantasia Calle 54,35 k half hour![/QUOTE]

Dickhead- thanks for your opinions.

For a weekend trip.

Fly into Medellin.

Lodging- Hotel Internacional.

Av. La Playa # 46-56.

Medellíand, Antioquia.

Rate: $40 a night, USD.

Anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly??

Find girls at FASE II (Dos), Carrera 44 # 30-27- Why FASE? Suppose to have to hottest girls, plastic type, pornstar look type.

FASE. Cost - $10 USD cover charge.

To take a girl outside and back to your hotel- $40 USD? I believe?

Short time with a girl from FASE DOS- ?? Not sure how much USD for 1-2 hours.

Long term, all night with a girl from FASE DOS- ??

Distance from hotel Internacional to Fase Dose- 15 min walk, 5 minute taxi.

Distance from international airport- 50 minutes. That is kind of far for a taxi ride, and safety concerns. And cost USD?

Distance from Internacional hotel to Mayorista area (Itaqui. Medellin, Mayorista Area, Calle 85 and Carrera 51,) around 20 minutes ride.

Any suggestions or corrections in regards to this possible itinerary?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1685809]Now say, for example, I had very little time left to live and I could only monger one more time for say a week, and I could only go to MDE or SJO. Under that set of circumstances I would go to MDE because it is the more outrageous of the two, assuming money is no factor (which since I am dying I would just take out a huge credit card advance; whoever dies with the most unsecured debt, wins). Somewhere around the two week mark SJO would overtake MDE, because everyday life is simpler and safer in SJO (and Costa Rica overall) than in MDE (and in Colombia overall).[/QUOTE]

OK. Two days running. I failed to sneak girls in. Photocopy cedula. Sign cedula. Endure 100 dirty looks. But WTF is it going to cost.

Surf.

La Isla is considered to have hotter looking girls than Fase II. Especially if you're looking for the plastic, porn star type.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1685262]There is no comparison to the US. Forget the astronomical cost for anything decent, or the fact you could go to prison if the girl has any drugs on her (which is likely), or the decent possibility you get set up and robbed by her "crew". I've never seen a place as restrictive as the US, try enjoying sex while you're waiting for the door to get bashed in. The worst thing is you don't know who to expect first, the cops or the thugs. Only way to avoid that fiasco is to pay way too much for marginal pussy with an attitude.[/QUOTE]I think you are exaggerating a little bit, maybe more than a little bit. I live and monger in the Bay Area (San Francisco area), and there are plenty of providers from all sorts of ethnicity. It's just more expensive, like everything else in the US. Your comment above may be closer to the truth if you are talking about Caucasian chicks. Luckily, I am done with those, and it's been a while.

If you like Asian providers, they are reasonably priced. Some of them are hot and GFE, and if you repeat, it gets even better.

I monger overseas as well, mostly for the variety in experience. Spending some time with a Paisa in Medellin is a different experience than hooking up with a Latina in the Bay Area.

[QUOTE=Combo;1685889]Surf.

La Isla is considered to have hotter looking girls than Fase II. Especially if you're looking for the plastic, porn star type.[/QUOTE]That's what I thought too, until I got a chance to get a good look at a provider from La Isla, in my hotel room. Yuck! She did not look that hot and plastic indeed. I could not wait to get her out of my room. Earlier that night, I tried another one from Fase II. She was much nicer and much friendlier. But once was enough, and I don't plan to repeat.

La Isla is a ripoff and a scam. Don't go there. Ever. For any reason. 300 K now for the girls, Jesus Christ, these same guys would fuck you TLN for that or less. I know because I have done some of them. A lot of them used to work in the Centro clubs for 70 K a pop. This is true of F2 also but they tend to find ones that were out of place at those places and deserved a little more. Plus the price is like 170 K (haven't been in a while but well under 300 K).

Furthermore the guys at La Isla are assholes. One night I went with some friends and they never brought us our tab. I had only ordered one thing so I just gave my friend the cash for it anyway. I talked to a girl I knew there from another club for a while and we decided to bounce. Thinking the tab, for drinks brought to us a long time ago at that point was paid, I walked outside. The owner followed me and made a big ass scene like I was trying to walk out on the tab. I apologized, paid and explained it was a simple misunderstanding, but he started interrogating me and calling me a liar and giving me dirty looks. I told him to eat a transvestite's dick and bailed in the cab. Just a shitty place. It was always shitty, now it's gotten shittier.

San Diego is a little uptight about that kind of shit now, too, but not bad and there are still some good values and good times to be had there.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1685926]I think you are exaggerating a little bit, maybe more than a little bit. I live and monger in the Bay Area (San Francisco area), and there are plenty of providers from all sorts of ethnicity. It's just more expensive, like everything else in the US. Your comment above may be closer to the truth if you are talking about Caucasian chicks. Luckily, I am done with those, and it's been a while.

If you like Asian providers, they are reasonably priced. Some of them are hot and GFE, and if you repeat, it gets even better.

I monger overseas as well, mostly for the variety in experience. Spending some time with a Paisa in Medellin is a different experience than hooking up with a Latina in the Bay Area.[/QUOTE]A lot has to do with where you procure your ladies. In the US, casas where you get to look at a lineup ahead of time are very rare and subject to getting busted after only a few months in operation. Maybe San Fran is different in this area, since you also have many Asians which is not the case where I live.

This leaves only the internet or street hookers with pimps to find your experiences, both of which I promise you will eventually be a problem, sooner or later. On the internet you basically have two options, the low end on sites like Backpage, or the high end on sites like Eros. Backpage is still several times the cost of most places in South America, especially if price / quality is compared. Eros is far worse on the cost, with similar talent costing 10 x what it would down south.

Being you go to La Isla, I assume you would be more inclined to use Eros than Backpage, but even there you will have a problem sooner or later. Backpage will get you problems one if five times would be my estimate! Our debate was on one country (and cost) versus the other, not on the race of the ladies, but I suppose Asians are great. I still wouldn't find them on backpage (too risky) or on Eros because the prices are ridiculous. If you have casas with lineups to view ahead of time, I would try those options but still be concerned about the police state making their rounds like they do all over the rest of the nation.

They don't call it sex prison for nothing!

Even where pro-ball players are gods, they are not immune:

[URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cbs-sportscaster-anthony-pleads-not-guilty-prostitution-charge-190953950--nba.html[/URL]

[URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/hall-of-famer-warren-sapp-arrested-for-soliciting-a-prostitute--assault-203922606.html[/URL]

Both recent busts, and though they won't get jail time, they are hugely embarrassed and losing jobs over it. Monger at your own risk in the US! You can also drive with a slight buzz and nothing will happen to you 19/20 times in the US, but when it does you're fucked.

Stopped in at New Life on Saturday before noon and was pleasantly surprised to find a new gem, she used the name Mafei (sp? Pronounced Ma-fay. Besides the corny hat she was wearing, everything else was attractive on this 18 year old beauty. She wasn't particularly friendly or outgoing, but it was early in the day and she did warm up during the session. Thin with excellent see-cup titties that defy gravity, and she didn't mind me unloading on them to finish. Love the half-dollar sized nipples, not quite brown and not really pink, but right in the middle. Superb pussy too, little slit in the middle with the puffy "cheeks" on the outside.

I'm not sure how long she'll be working there since this was only her fifth day. Probably won't repeat but has nothing to do with her, just too many in this town to keep going back to same girl.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;1685830]LOL, "her white skin," but "don't get me wrong, last 10 years had mainly black GF's = "I have black friends, I'm not racist LOL![/QUOTE]Naaa, your hurting subliminal, not mine pal.

Lmfao!

Keep doing a great job.

[QUOTE=HoraleGuey;1685939] I told him to eat a transvestite's dick and bailed in the cab.[/QUOTE].

Starting at 11 PM Saturday night I visited La Isla, then San Diego, and then Face IIs. I will not go back to the first two clubs, the quality of the chicas was very, very disappointing. Face IIs had better chicas, slightly lower prices, and a much more fun and energetic atmosphere. Maybe the chica quality gets better after 1 AM at the other clubs but I wasn't buying any more 30 K drinks to wait around.

[QUOTE=HoraleGuey;1685939]La Isla is a ripoff and a scam. Don't go there. Ever. For any reason. 300 K now for the girls, Jesus Christ, these same guys would fuck you TLN for that or less. I know because I have done some of them. A lot of them used to work in the Centro clubs for 70 K a pop. This is true of F2 also but they tend to find ones that were out of place at those places and deserved a little more. Plus the price is like 170 K (haven't been in a while but well under 300 K).

Furthermore the guys at La Isla are assholes. One night I went with some friends and they never brought us our tab. I had only ordered one thing so I just gave my friend the cash for it anyway. I talked to a girl I knew there from another club for a while and we decided to bounce. Thinking the tab, for drinks brought to us a long time ago at that point was paid, I walked outside. The owner followed me and made a big ass scene like I was trying to walk out on the tab. I apologized, paid and explained it was a simple misunderstanding, but he started interrogating me and calling me a liar and giving me dirty looks. I told him to eat a transvestite's dick and bailed in the cab. Just a shitty place. It was always shitty, now it's gotten shittier.

San Diego is a little uptight about that kind of shit now, too, but not bad and there are still some good values and good times to be had there.[/QUOTE]If you absolutely must have a girl from La Isla, get their number and they'll come over to your apartment / hotel in the afternoon for 150 k. Doing them in the club or paying take-out is indeed a ripoff. And yes, they generally don't look as hot in normal lighting.

Hey fellas it was mentioned here I believe not too long ago about places in Itaguii where they have a huge selection of Denim jeans. At great prices. Does anyone have more info? I'm trying to put together my Itenarary for my trip. And would like to check it out. Thanks.

Just left my room! Fantastic sex, sweet beautiful, nice! 120 k hour! Absolutely worth it, gorgeous 20 yo. , meet her frente de Conejitas!

Greetings machisto, no racisto!

[QUOTE=Shamester;1685261]Remove the GFE part -- in Las Vegas these chicas could easily fetch $500 US per hour. In my home area -- $200 US plus per hour.

New Life is maybe the best bargain in the Americas.[/QUOTE]Based on a couple things I read here. I eventually found new life and went in. They had a parade of about 10 girls. I went with the one whose name I remembered. I wish someone told me to keep track before I figured out what was what. Anyway - awesome service -kissing was good. This is a big one for me. But no BBBJ. Anyway - I have over indulged and we went back and forth between CBJ CG. Rcg - CBJ- CG. CBJ and I finally admitted I was not going to pop. It was thoroughly awesome. Then she kissed and cuddled. I loved it - 40 k pesos plus 20 k propina. I would definitely go back.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1686249]Hey fellas it was mentioned here I believe not too long ago about places in Itaguii where they have a huge selection of Denim jeans. At great prices. Does anyone have more info? I'm trying to put together my Itenarary for my trip. And would like to check it out. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't been to the denim stores Shamester mentioned, but I believe they are 8-10 blocks from the strip at Mayorista.

Go west on Calle 85 a couple blocks then head south on transversal 52 D for maybe 7 blocks and it should be on your right, called Supercentro de la Moda.

There are plenty of great deals on denim in El Centro too, if you're headed that way to visit casas. I sometimes buy jeans for for girls as gifts, rarely spending more than $9 bucks US (about 22 K pesos).

What are the current prices for mansion girls and Casas? Now that the Columbian Peso is devaluing. $100 will get you almost $250,000 Pesos, Are the Price still the same in the Casas and in the Mansion. I'm heading to Medellin in April. Did the girls jack the price?

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1686249]Hey fellas it was mentioned here I believe not too long ago about places in Itaguii where they have a huge selection of Denim jeans. At great prices. Does anyone have more info? I'm trying to put together my Itenarary for my trip. And would like to check it out. Thanks.[/QUOTE]While at the Mayorista at one end is the casino. Walk away from there to the section where the girls hang out. Keep walking till you have to cross a street. Go two blocks more and then make a left turn. You will see store after store selling clothes on both sides of the street.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1686547]While at the Mayorista at one end is the casino. Walk away from there to the section where the girls hang out. Keep walking till you have to cross a street. Go two blocks more and then make a left turn. You will see store after store selling clothes on both sides of the street.[/QUOTE]Is this a safe place to walk around during the day?

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1686519]What are the current prices for mansion girls and Casas? Now that the Columbian Peso is devaluing. $100 will get you almost $250,000 Pesos, Are the Price still the same in the Casas and in the Mansion. I'm heading to Medellin in April. Did the girls jack the price?[/QUOTE]In January (exchange rate was about 2400/ usd), I was giving Mansion girls 150 k for short-time and they all seemed happy. I didn't do any TLN. I can't remember exactly, but the casas seemed roughly the same price as they've been in recent years. On my March trip, I anticipate the same.

Colombia hasn't (yet) had significant inflation, so 150k pesos goes about as far as it did when the exchange rate was 1900/USD. The girls aren't generally thinking of the exchange rate unless some idiot gringo explains it to them (you know the same guys who show them their photos from this site). Or unless they travel frequently out of the country.

I have always stayed in the nicer parts of Medellin and wanted to try some cheap alternatives. Some of the popular places like mansion were full so I decided to stay closer to El Centro. Booked a room in Hotel Caribe for only $22 per day using [URL]bookings.com[/URL], compare this to $100 you pay staying in Poblado hotel, they are chica friendly and did not charge me anything for bringing the girls. I really wanted to explore if there are any hidden gems in the rough, all the Poblado prepagos are spoiled rotten and obnoxious and just are asking too much money these days. Do not even attempt to go to LA ISLA or FASE II they are charging ridiculously high $$ some girls are quoting in excess of $300 per session.

To say in this part of the town you need a good local wing man, I met a local taxi guide who speaks decent english and stayed with me where ever I went. Most of the stip clubs like Barra Ejecutiva, Conejitas, Maracaibo are decent, girls charge $70 K per session compared to $300 in la isla. Also visited a casa called "CAsa de PAdua" the selection of the girls was excellent session was $120 K and you need to pay $50 K to the house to take them out. This is compared to $250 charged by Loutran and other poblado based casas. The local Yellow pages listings are also very decent, [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/bello/[/URL] one girl in particular was very sexy her was Lora and she has an excellent body I was able to negotiate her down to $100 mil for one hour session [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-bella-una-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-arrechita-whatsapp-3148308468-apto-y-domicilios-24-horas/2438882/[/URL].

I have uploaded most of the photos of the chicas I took, also tired picking up chicas at the local mall and some local dating sites like [URL]http://www.romancelatina.com[/URL] and [URL]http://www.colombianchicas.com[/URL].

Both had a decent collection of 20 something girls who were either free or came at a discounted rate. You need to specially look for chicas in Bello, and Aranjez.

I really enjoyed staying close to action and bang some decent girls.

Enjoy the photos.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;1686714]I have always stayed in the nicer parts of Medellin and wanted to try some cheap alternatives. Some of the popular places like mansion were full so I decided to stay closer to El Centro. Booked a room in Hotel Caribe for only $22 per day using [URL]bookings.com[/URL], compare this to $100 you pay staying in Poblado hotel, they are chica friendly and did not charge me anything for bringing the girls. I really wanted to explore if there are any hidden gems in the rough, all the Poblado prepagos are spoiled rotten and obnoxious and just are asking too much money these days. Do not even attempt to go to LA ISLA or FASE II they are charging ridiculously high $$ some girls are quoting in excess of $300 per session.

To say in this part of the town you need a good local wing man, I met a local taxi guide who speaks decent english and stayed with me where ever I went. Most of the stip clubs like Barra Ejecutiva, Conejitas, Maracaibo are decent, girls charge $70 K per session compared to $300 in la isla. Also visited a casa called "CAsa de PAdua" the selection of the girls was excellent session was $120 K and you need to pay $50 K to the house to take them out. This is compared to $250 charged by Loutran and other poblado based casas. The local Yellow pages listings are also very decent, [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/bello/[/URL] one girl in particular was very sexy her was Lora and she has an excellent body I was able to negotiate her down to $100 mil for one hour session [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-bella-una-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-arrechita-whatsapp-3148308468-apto-y-domicilios-24-horas/2438882/[/URL].

I have uploaded most of the photos of the chicas I took, also tired picking up chicas at the local mall and some local dating sites like [URL]http://www.romancelatina.com[/URL] and [URL]http://www.colombianchicas.com[/URL].

Both had a decent collection of 20 something girls who were either free or came at a discounted rate. You need to specially look for chicas in Bello, and Aranjez.

I really enjoyed staying close to action and bang some decent girls.

Enjoy the photos.[/QUOTE]Don't see how you are saving much money over staying at the Mansion or somewhere similar. Most of what you save on the hotel, you are spending on your wingman.

[QUOTE=DetJunky;1686714]I have always stayed in the nicer parts of Medellin and wanted to try some cheap alternatives. Some of the popular places like mansion were full so I decided to stay closer to El Centro. Booked a room in Hotel Caribe for only $22 per day using [URL]bookings.com[/URL], compare this to $100 you pay staying in Poblado hotel, they are chica friendly and did not charge me anything for bringing the girls. I really wanted to explore if there are any hidden gems in the rough, all the Poblado prepagos are spoiled rotten and obnoxious and just are asking too much money these days. Do not even attempt to go to LA ISLA or FASE II they are charging ridiculously high $$ some girls are quoting in excess of $300 per session.

To say in this part of the town you need a good local wing man, I met a local taxi guide who speaks decent english and stayed with me where ever I went. Most of the stip clubs like Barra Ejecutiva, Conejitas, Maracaibo are decent, girls charge $70 K per session compared to $300 in la isla. Also visited a casa called "CAsa de PAdua" the selection of the girls was excellent session was $120 K and you need to pay $50 K to the house to take them out. This is compared to $250 charged by Loutran and other poblado based casas. The local Yellow pages listings are also very decent...[/QUOTE]Great looking girl in the pics, sounds like you have the right plan. If I were visiting MDE I'd do it like you, stay in El Centro near the action, and only occasionally go out to Poblado like on Friday or Saturday for a nice dinner. Save a good amount of money (wingmen aren't expensive and can be found right here on ISG), lots to see in El Centro including non-pros, cheap shopping and food, bargain casa after bargain casa each with something for everybody's taste. The only drawback to El Centro is it's not a place I will stay out late at night.

Went out yesterday afternoon / evening with a couple fellas and had a blast. We must've hit 4 or 5 casas and equally as many strip clubs. Good times for sure and easy on the wallet!

[QUOTE=DetJunky;1686714]I have always stayed in the nicer parts of Medellin and wanted to try some cheap alternatives. Some of the popular places like mansion were full so I decided to stay closer to El Centro. Booked a room in Hotel Caribe for only $22 per day using [URL]bookings.com[/URL], compare this to $100 you pay staying in Poblado hotel, they are chica friendly and did not charge me anything for bringing the girls. I really wanted to explore if there are any hidden gems in the rough, all the Poblado prepagos are spoiled rotten and obnoxious and just are asking too much money these days. Do not even attempt to go to LA ISLA or FASE II they are charging ridiculously high $$ some girls are quoting in excess of $300 per session.

To say in this part of the town you need a good local wing man, I met a local taxi guide who speaks decent english and stayed with me where ever I went. Most of the stip clubs like Barra Ejecutiva, Conejitas, Maracaibo are decent, girls charge $70 K per session compared to $300 in la isla. Also visited a casa called "CAsa de PAdua" the selection of the girls was excellent session was $120 K and you need to pay $50 K to the house to take them out. This is compared to $250 charged by Loutran and other poblado based casas. The local Yellow pages listings are also very decent, [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/antioquia/bello/[/URL] one girl in particular was very sexy her was Lora and she has an excellent body I was able to negotiate her down to $100 mil for one hour session [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/soy-bella-una-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url]-arrechita-whatsapp-3148308468-apto-y-domicilios-24-horas/2438882/[/URL]..[/QUOTE]This is what I'm talking about! Quality intel from the ground troops. Much Appreciated DetJunky. I'll be on ground in 2 weeks for my first MDE trip and now will consider a night or so in Centro to mix up with my Poblado stay. Nothing wrong with a local taxi friend to buddy up to. He might get you into good trouble and get you out of bad trouble.

Thanks again!

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1686564]Is this a safe place to walk around during the day?[/QUOTE]Day or night Mayorista is one of the safest places in MDE as far as walking is concerned. Dealing with girls in the room can at times present problems.

[QUOTE=Combo;1686666]In January (exchange rate was about 2400/ usd), I was giving Mansion girls 150 k for short-time and they all seemed happy. I didn't do any TLN. I can't remember exactly, but the casas seemed roughly the same price as they've been in recent years. On my March trip, I anticipate the same.

Colombia hasn't (yet) had significant inflation, so 150k pesos goes about as far as it did when the exchange rate was 1900/USD. The girls aren't generally thinking of the exchange rate unless some idiot gringo explains it to them (you know the same guys who show them their photos from this site). Or unless they travel frequently out of the country.[/QUOTE]It the same every where dude! Some guy get a girl to spread her legs open and they automatically think of it as Love or some shit like that. Then they start spilling all of their beans.

In a few minutes I board the plane for Medellin. I've been lurking about this forum hearing the stories and while they sound fantastic they do not seem to indicate the kind of visit I am anticipating. I don't expect to spent much time in casas, hotels or strip clubs. I'm going on the hunt for the best escort services and pimps. I've made arrangements with Alviro, one of the drivers on the Medellin lists to help me. I've also contacted some of the pimps on CL, who seem to be women and yes, I know about CL so I'll be using the long spoon to dine with them. I'd also like to see if there are any semi-pros, those who don't usually do this but will make an exception if the price is right and the situation intrigues them (think "Indecent Proposal" scaled down the COP). I had great success with this in New York City a few years back before I moved away. Those are the experiences I'd like to relive.

I'm staying at the Blux in El Poblado. It's an apart-hotel. You can have an overnight guest for no fee. I'm also considering security measures should anyone try to take my libertine attitude as a sign of weakness. Possibly private guards or having someone bribe the police to talk to the girl and let her know that if anything happens to me, even if I accidentally fall down the stairs, her whole family gets it. I have actually used this tactic successfully in another South American country where the local talent can turn on you in a second and literally run you out of town if you're not careful.

So I'll let you know what happens when my boots hit the ground.

Hey fellas. Unable to secure a room at the mansion for my last night in MDE. Does anyone know of a hotel in El Poblado that is chica friendly? I don't mind paying a small fee just not 100 k fee for every girl that comes in. Not really looking for a love motel either. More of a 3. 5-4 star hotel.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1687889]Hey fellas. Unable to secure a room at the mansion for my last night in MDE. Does anyone know of a hotel in El Poblado that is chica friendly? I don't mind paying a small fee just not 100 k fee for every girl that comes in. Not really looking for a love motel either. More of a 3. 5-4 star hotel.

Thanks[/QUOTE]I stayed at art hotel, excellent location, girl friendly also I'm going back going to try LE park hotel right around Corner, new hotel balcony upgrade if available their running special like 79 $ a night, have fun!

Made the rounds in El Centro last night with a few guys I met from ISG, and had another great time. Didn't hit any casas this time, instead we just cruised the usual titty bars while discovering a few others. There're not hard to find once you're in the area, seems like there are at least a couple on each street if they have one.

We all agreed the talent was better than usual, with each place offering up a couple gems. We also stumbled upon several bars that weren't strip clubs, yet had pros sitting and drinking while waiting for men to approach. The talent in these places was not as good as the strip clubs, but they're an option for those that like the more "regular" bar scene with option to score. These were on the same block as Conejitas, around the corner on the West side of the block, in the not-so good part of town, but OK to walk in with a group. No problems.

The streets were alive and buzzing, lots to see and do as we strolled from place to place. Damn good time overall.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOnTheRun;1687879]or having someone bribe the police to talk to the girl and let her know that if anything happens to me, even if I accidentally fall down the stairs, her whole family gets it. I have actually used this tactic successfully in another South American country where the local talent can turn on you in a second and literally run you out of town if you're not careful.[/QUOTE]That sounds extreme and over the top. I'd be especially worried about unintended consequences of such "precautions. " I would recommend dialing it down and sticking with everyday common sense precautions.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOnTheRun;1687879]I'm also considering security measures should anyone try to take my libertine attitude as a sign of weakness. Possibly private guards or having someone bribe the police to talk to the girl and let her know that if anything happens to me, even if I accidentally fall down the stairs, her whole family gets it. I have actually used this tactic successfully in another South American country where the local talent can turn on you in a second and literally run you out of town if you're not careful.

So I'll let you know what happens when my boots hit the ground.[/QUOTE]Lighten up Francis, on the security detail and threats, geez.
Are you for real? Lol

Have fun and enjoy!

Allwaysontherun,

You seem to have pick the right name for yourself. With that attitude I am pretty certain you will be Allwaysontherun and you should get sneakers to run not boots. I am not sure if you are just joking or are for real. If for real then all you are saying is pretty dumb or you are Paranoic. Just enjoy Medellin, there is no need of having guards or Police protection. You are just going to attract too much attention and if you hire guards for Protection or Police for bribes, you are just opening big can of worms that will go straight to your ass. That is why you are going to need sneakers to run not boots.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOnTheRun;1687879]I'm staying at the Blux in El Poblado. It's an apart-hotel. You can have an overnight guest for no fee. I'm also considering security measures should anyone try to take my libertine attitude as a sign of weakness. Possibly private guards or having someone bribe the police to talk to the girl and let her know that if anything happens to me, even if I accidentally fall down the stairs, her whole family gets it. I have actually used this tactic successfully in another South American country where the local talent can turn on you in a second and literally run you out of town if you're not careful.
So I'll let you know what happens when my boots hit the ground.[/QUOTE]

What's up guys. I haven't been to Medellin in 4 years. With the exchange rate going up against all mongering destinations, I wanted to check in. I remember fase 2 was about 200 k pesos for a girl and room back then. What can I expect now if I go. Since its 250 k for 100 dollars now, I can monger in pure bliss. Do they raise the prices like they do in Brazil when the rate gets too much in our favor. Whats the average in San Diego and Fase 2. Also, what are the top 5 clubs now to meet the hottest girls.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1687892]Made the rounds in El Centro last night with a few guys I met from ISG, and had another great time. Didn't hit any casas this time, instead we just cruised the usual titty bars while discovering a few others. There're not hard to find once you're in the area, seems like there are at least a couple on each street if they have one.

We all agreed the talent was better than usual, with each place offering up a couple gems. We also stumbled upon several bars that weren't strip clubs, yet had pros sitting and drinking while waiting for men to approach. The talent in these places was not as good as the strip clubs, but they're an option for those that like the more "regular" bar scene with option to score. These were on the same block as Conejitas, around the corner on the West side of the block, in the not-so good part of town, but OK to walk in with a group. No problems.

The streets were alive and buzzing, lots to see and do as we strolled from place to place. Damn good time overall.[/QUOTE]I saw 4 gringos in the Occidental early Thursday night, first time I have ever seen more than 1 or 2 gringos there, must have been your group sitting beside the bar. The chicas missed you guys when you left. I was 4 tables away from the bar. Occidental has more flaquitas than Conejitas, Conejitas seems to have mostly super sized now, and talent way way below what it has been the last 5 years. I saw a new one there last night and her ass was wider than the tables. My favorite flaca chica from there when to China a year ago and a few months later 4 other flaquitas from Conejitas followed her to Guangzhou.

Then, Conejita girls may look better than the Occidental girls to Colombian guys, who like thick women with big ass.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1688129]Occidental has more flaquitas than Conejitas, Conejitas seems to have mostly super sized now, and talent way way below what it has been the last 5 years. I saw a new one there last night and her ass was wider than the tables. My favorite flaca chica from there when to China a year ago and a few months later 4 other flaquitas from Conejitas followed her to Guangzhou.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=AlwaysOnTheRun;1687879]I'm staying at the Blux in El Poblado. It's an apart-hotel. You can have an overnight guest for no fee. I'm also considering security measures should anyone try to take my libertine attitude as a sign of weakness. Possibly private guards or having someone bribe the police to talk to the girl and let her know that if anything happens to me, even if I accidentally fall down the stairs, her whole family gets it. I have actually used this tactic successfully in another South American country where the local talent can turn on you in a second and literally run you out of town if you're not careful.

So I'll let you know what happens when my boots hit the ground.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're in store for some great sex, nothing gets a girl wetter than a good threat just before you park your dick in her! The first person to rob you will be the guard you hire, or the police you bribe, if the cop doesn't haul you to jail first.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1688129]I saw 4 gringos in the Occidental early Thursday night, first time I have ever seen more than 1 or 2 gringos there, must have been your group sitting beside the bar. The chicas missed you guys when you left. I was 4 tables away from the bar. Occidental has more flaquitas than Conejitas, Conejitas seems to have mostly super sized now, and talent way way below what it has been the last 5 years. I saw a new one there last night and her ass was wider than the tables. My favorite flaca chica from there when to China a year ago and a few months later 4 other flaquitas from Conejitas followed her to Guangzhou.[/QUOTE]Should've popped over for a drink, the girls like groups of guys since there stripper friends can also join them in the party. Unfortunately, I didn't notice any other gringos in the club besides us, I was up to my eyeballs in thighs! We intended to go back later but got distracted hitting one bar after the other. There was actually a better club we hit later, but by that time the beers were kicking in enough that I couldn't remember the name. Join us next time!

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1688139]Then, Conejita girls may look better than the Occidental girls to Colombian guys, who like thick women with big ass.

.[/QUOTE]Hey Matt, but that is great, makes for way less competition for us older gringos who like the flaquitas.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1688066]What's up guys. I haven't been to Medellin in 4 years. With the exchange rate going up against all mongering destinations, I wanted to check in. I remember fase 2 was about 200 k pesos for a girl and room back then. What can I expect now if I go. Since its 250 k for 100 dollars now, I can monger in pure bliss. Do they raise the prices like they do in Brazil when the rate gets too much in our favor. Whats the average in San Diego and Fase 2. Also, what are the top 5 clubs now to meet the hottest girls.[/QUOTE]No, prices seem to be fairly steady in Colombia. The difference from Brasil 10+ years ago is that Colombians haven't had significant inflation like Brasil endured. As I pointed out a few days ago, the chicas aren't thinking about the exchange rate. They are thinking about what that X Pesos that they get paid will buy them in Medellin. And it will buy about what it has in recent years. Now if domestic inflation starts roaring in Colombia then the chica prices will likely go up in tandem. But I don't see that happening soon.

[QUOTE=Combo;1688295]No, prices seem to be fairly steady in Colombia. The difference from Brasil 10+ years ago is that Colombians haven't had significant inflation like Brasil endured. As I pointed out a few days ago, the chicas aren't thinking about the exchange rate. They are thinking about what that X Pesos that they get paid will buy them in Medellin. And it will buy about what it has in recent years. Now if domestic inflation starts roaring in Colombia then the chica prices will likely go up in tandem. But I don't see that happening soon.[/QUOTE]So you guys are mongering like kings right now. It must be the best deal going. How much is a girl at Fase 2 right now.

Hey guys,

Long time reader new poster here!

I have about 10 days off at the beginning of April. I've always wanted to go to MDE and explore and enjoy the fruits of God's creations, but have been somewhat timid because of politics, danger, sticking out like a sore thumb. Etc.

So, if you had that time and could go to MDE, Sint Maarten, Dominican Republic etc, what would you do?

I've been to SXM before and had a great time with the Colombianas, and could easily go back. I guess I need some guidance and reassurance and any pearls you can offer the new guy. I've logged hours reading, but sometimes boots on the ground is better.

Part of me wants to go to the beach to recover from this awful cold! 17 degrees here now!

Thanks in advance!

DfF

[QUOTE=DiveFrog;1688430]Hey guys,

Long time reader new poster here!

I have about 10 days off at the beginning of April. I've always wanted to go to MDE and explore and enjoy the fruits of God's creations, but have been somewhat timid because of politics, danger, sticking out like a sore thumb. Etc.

So, if you had that time and could go to MDE, Sint Maarten, Dominican Republic etc, what would you do?

I've been to SXM before and had a great time with the Colombianas, and could easily go back. I guess I need some guidance and reassurance and any pearls you can offer the new guy. I've logged hours reading, but sometimes boots on the ground is better.

Part of me wants to go to the beach to recover from this awful cold! 17 degrees here now!

Thanks in advance!

DfF[/QUOTE]So you have spent hours collecting info from reading this site but could not take the time to write about your SXM visit. Obviously you must have benefited reading about St Martin on ISG before your visit. As many others have written before this site is for sharing info not just taking.

[QUOTE=HelpRules;1688424]So you guys are mongering like kings right now. It must be the best deal going. How much is a girl at Fase 2 right now.[/QUOTE]Seriously bro, they were just talking about this not only one page back. Is it too much to ask for you to just go back a page or two and read?

Not trying to be a dick; just a firm believer in the "teach a man to fish..." school of thought.

[QUOTE=AussieGreg;1407804]You north americans will never learn how to get into a pretty paisas pants, well here goes, I'll do my best for you.

1) $$$$ jajaja.
2) You got to think like a paisa!
3) Learn to dance, impossible for most of you. The best to learn are Bachata, Ballanarto, Regeatton (sexo con ropa) and then Salsa.
4) The first two are more important than learning Spanish, then learn Spanish.
5) Doesn't matter what you look like, as long as you have a personality, jajaja.

A. G.[/QUOTE]I've been at this hobby for a lot of years and have made my share of mistakes but this is good advice. I have used a few techniques over the years that can help land more non pros and part time pros alike. 'Never' say your in town for only a few days, better to say you are relocating and staying in a hotel until you find an apartment. Ask if they have kids, ask what are their names, act interested in their lives in a flash the phones come out and you will be looking at pics of her family. This will immediately separate you from the typical gringo who just want to fuck them and forget them. This will usually result in a much better session. Also as Greg states above personality, very important, if you don't have game here in the states then you probably won't have game in Colombia and then you are better off sticking to the pros, get your nut off in an hour and go get something to eat. Most important don't fall in love, if you do you will be falling in love by yourself.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1688629]I've been at this hobby for a lot of years and have made my share of mistakes but this is good advice. I have used a few techniques over the years that can help land more non pros and part time pros alike. 'Never' say your in town for only a few days, better to say you are relocating and staying in a hotel until you find an apartment. Ask if they have kids, ask what are their names, act interested in their lives in a flash the phones come out and you will be looking at pics of her family. This will immediately separate you from the typical gringo who just want to fuck them and forget them. This will usually result in a much better session. Also as Greg states above personality, very important, if you don't have game here in the states then you probably won't have game in Colombia and then you are better off sticking to the pros, get your nut off in an hour and go get something to eat. Most important don't fall in love, if you do you will be falling in love by yourself.[/QUOTE]You obviously do not have game if you have to manipulate and lie to the girls.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1688674]You obviously do not have game if you have to manipulate and lie to the girls.[/QUOTE]Pretty critical reply Old Parr, are you this critical just on sundays or on the other 6 days as well.

It is very obvious a guy may get better service if a chica thinks she could have a repeat customer. If chicas can fake orgasms what is wrong with a guy saying he is here for several months rather than a weekend.

This website [URL]http://doncolombia.com/foro/t-direcciones-puteaderos-medellin[/URL] was sent to me by girl Camila [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/nena-19-anos-cuerpo-sencillo-xxx/2642883/[/URL] whom I met in Barranquilla in December 2014. I decided to share the website because it has valuable information of prepagos and places in Medellin, Bogota, Barranquilla and other areas. Check for yourself. And Camila by the way if you go to to Barranquilla is a true GF experience, sweet, skinny with well formed body and ass, and with a extremely tight pussy.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1688811]Pretty critical reply Old Parr, are you this critical just on Sundays or on the other 6 days as well.

It is very obvious a guy may get better service if a chica thinks she could have a repeat customer. If chicas can fake orgasms what is wrong with a guy saying he is here for several months rather than a weekend.[/QUOTE]Not critical at all, just being honest. I just do not get why people have to lie to the girls, and in this case the OP was basically stating he had game, and if a person has game then there is no reason to manipulate or lie to the girl.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1688587]So you have spent hours collecting info from reading this site but could not take the time to write about your SXM visit. Obviously you must have benefited reading about St Martin on ISG before your visit. As many others have written before this site is for sharing info not just taking.[/QUOTE]Well, Actually I followed my nose in SXM. Was only there for a day while on a ship, so it didn't take a lot of planning to follow the crew to the party spots. Unfortunately there isn't a lot to report in such instances, if that makes any sense.

So, what would you do in my situation?

[QUOTE=OldParr;1688674]You obviously do not have game if you have to manipulate and lie to the girls.[/QUOTE]Sorry to ruffle your feathers OP but you obviously don't understand the nomenclature. Nowhere in the Guidebook to having game, does it state that you can't stretch the truth a bit. I mean God knows, these girls would never lie to us. LOL Relax, it's all good.

[QUOTE=DiveFrog;1688859]Well, Actually I followed my nose in SXM. Was only there for a day while on a ship, so it didn't take a lot of planning to follow the crew to the party spots. Unfortunately there isn't a lot to report in such instances, if that makes any sense.

So, what would you do in my situation?[/QUOTE]I'd pay the $20 to ISG and join the site formally so I could receive private messages (PMs). Some of the best information is passed form one member to another this way, because many members don't like trumpeting their finds to the entire community, for one reason or another. However, you might find a few knowledgeable guys that will guide you and answer your questions in more depth once they get to know you.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1688963]Sorry to ruffle your feathers OP but you obviously don't understand the nomenclature. Nowhere in the Guidebook to having game, does it state that you can't stretch the truth a bit. I mean God knows, these girls would never lie to us. LOL Relax, it's all good.[/QUOTE]Actually your advice was spot on amigo.

Showing interest in the chica's life apart from the booty and letting her know you'll be around, is a great way towards GFE.

Nothing wrong with that.

I am currently in Medellin. This is my 6th trip and I am staying at the Mansion. I had a chance to visit 3 casas so far, otherwise it's been mostly Mansion girls.

I checked Chica Punto Com and Sexy Fantasia. I liked Melody and Laura at CPC, but ended up with Melody, after my buddy selected Laura first. Melody was a spinner, with exotic looks, and looked young. Her body also looked sexy after she undressed. However, she was all business, no kissing, and no BBBJ period. I quickly gave up trying to convince her with a propina. She did not even wait for junior to fully wake up. After jerking him a little bit, she put on the condom while junior was halfway awake.

She was however good in bed, being young, pretty, with a nice body helped a lot. Unfortunately, in doggy style her pussy let out a bad smile. Luckily for me, that has never bothered me. So, I just went on my merry way, pumping away.

I speak some basic Spanish and tried to joke with her but to no avail. As soon as I finished, she was out of that room. She would not even wait for me to get dressed. I did not partake in SF.

New Life:

As usual, NL had a good lineup, with more than 15 girls. I liked 3 of them, Jessica, Andrea, and Gabriela. I thought I had seen the first two in prior visits, so decided to go with Gabriela. She was fairly friendly in the room and talkative. She seemed attentive to her customer's needs. However, she wanted 50 K for a BBBJ. Luckily, her CBJ was not bad at all. Plus, she did a good job with her hand, trying to wake up junior. He came to attention right away. She was also good in bed. Overall, I had a good time with her and would recommend her. Caution, she did not come across as friendly during the intro. I selected her solely based on the looks.

Thanks for the good report. Don't be discouraged by this incident. Many casa girls are like her, but you will find some friendly girls definitely. Just a matter of chemistry and this is what makes the game fun.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1689246] However, she was all business, no kissing, and no BBBJ period. I quickly gave up trying to convince her with a propina. She did not even wait for junior to fully wake up. After jerking him a little bit, she put on the condom while junior was halfway awake.

.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1689246]I am currently in Medellin. This is my 6th trip and I am staying at the Mansion. I had a chance to visit 3 casas so far, otherwise it's been mostly Mansion girls.

I checked Chica Punto Com and Sexy Fantasia. I liked Melody and Laura at CPC, but ended up with Melody, after my buddy selected Laura first. Melody was a spinner, with exotic looks, and looked young. Her body also looked sexy after she undressed. However, she was all business, no kissing, and no BBBJ period. I quickly gave up trying to convince her with a propina. She did not even wait for junior to fully wake up. After jerking him a little bit, she put on the condom while junior was halfway awake.

She was however good in bed, being young, pretty, with a nice body helped a lot. Unfortunately, in doggy style her pussy let out a bad smile. Luckily for me, that has never bothered me. So, I just went on my merry way, pumping away.

I speak some basic Spanish and tried to joke with her but to no avail. As soon as I finished, she was out of that room. She would not even wait for me to get dressed. I did not partake in SF.

New Life:

As usual, NL had a good lineup, with more than 15 girls. I liked 3 of them, Jessica, Andrea, and Gabriela. I thought I had seen the first two in prior visits, so decided to go with Gabriela. She was fairly friendly in the room and talkative. She seemed attentive to her customer's needs. However, she wanted 50 K for a BBBJ. Luckily, her CBJ was not bad at all. Plus, she did a good job with her hand, trying to wake up junior. He came to attention right away. She was also good in bed. Overall, I had a good time with her and would recommend her. Caution, she did not come across as friendly during the intro. I selected her solely based on the looks.[/QUOTE]That's the danger of doing business in Casas. If you had a chance to sit with her for a while and invest in the cost of a drink you may have picked up on her shitty attitude. I remember a beautiful morena clara in Luomo in Copa a few years back. She would sit by herself and never seemed interested in landing a customer. The few times I talked to her all I got was one word answers. So my wing man and I stayed away from her. I think I made 3 trips to Rio in 6 months that year and on the last day of our last trip of that year, my wing man caved and took her to the cabine. This girl was an all star with a kicken body. When he returned to the boate I could see on his face it was a disaster. LOL a 10 second covered BJ, legs half open ect ect. We knew she was going to suck because of talking to her over the year. So in most casas, other then to point to one, you don't have the opportunity to get a feel from this girls. It' happened to allof us. BTW later we found out the girl in Luomo was a stone lesbian. Guys later told us her lover would come and pick her up every night. Sounds like the girl also had Bacterial Vaginosis. That could have been your ticket to call off the session and get your money back. I don't know how you went on,. I would have been out the door in a heart beat.

Depends on how you look at it. I go to Medellin and spend $12 for a girl at a casa for 30 minutes. Even if the girl is not good or something goes wrong, I got to see her nekkit, play with some boobs, got her to play with my dick, so the $12 is not a big loss. At those prices I can just go get another one and not think twice about it.

Or I could go somewhere like Fase 2 and spend $25 on drinks for different girls trying to pick up some kind of vibe which may be totally inaccurate. I could get her back and have to give her $75 or whatever and still get a lousy experience. So there I have wasted $100 and how many hours for a shitty experience?

The biggest thing to remember about this hobby is that YMMV. Guys have their little routines and rituals in trying to guarantee good service. Other guys pay more in hopes that that will guarantee them better service. The fact is that from girl to girl, day to day, trick to trick, there are no guarantees. It's all luck of the draw for that particular go round.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1689246]I am currently in Medellin. This is my 6th trip and I am staying at the Mansion. I had a chance to visit 3 casas so far, otherwise it's been mostly Mansion girls.

I checked Chica Punto Com and Sexy Fantasia. I liked Melody and Laura at CPC, but ended up with Melody, after my buddy selected Laura first. Melody was a spinner, with exotic looks, and looked young. Her body also looked sexy after she undressed. However, she was all business, no kissing, and no BBBJ period. I quickly gave up trying to convince her with a propina. She did not even wait for junior to fully wake up. After jerking him a little bit, she put on the condom while junior was halfway awake.

She was however good in bed, being young, pretty, with a nice body helped a lot. Unfortunately, in doggy style her pussy let out a bad smile. Luckily for me, that has never bothered me. So, I just went on my merry way, pumping away.

I speak some basic Spanish and tried to joke with her but to no avail. As soon as I finished, she was out of that room. She would not even wait for me to get dressed. I did not partake in SF..[/QUOTE]How is the mansion? Is there any new Girls (New Talent) or is it the same girls from Last Year. I was there in August 2014 and I'm going there in April 2015. Wanted to know if there is New Blood!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1689362]

The biggest thing to remember about this hobby is that YMMV. Guys have their little routines and rituals in trying to guarantee good service. Other guys pay more in hopes that that will guarantee them better service. The fact is that from girl to girl, day to day, trick to trick, there are no guarantees. It's all luck of the draw for that particular go round.[/QUOTE]That is exactamente the bottom line right there!

Well put señor!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1689362]Depends on how you look at it. I go to Medellin and spend $12 for a girl at a casa for 30 minutes. Even if the girl is not good or something goes wrong, I got to see her nekkit, play with some boobs, got her to play with my dick, so the $12 is not a big loss. At those prices I can just go get another one and not think twice about it.

Or I could go somewhere like Fase 2 and spend $25 on drinks for different girls trying to pick up some kind of vibe which may be totally inaccurate. I could get her back and have to give her $75 or whatever and still get a lousy experience. So there I have wasted $100 and how many hours for a shitty experience?

The biggest thing to remember about this hobby is that YMMV. Guys have their little routines and rituals in trying to guarantee good service. Other guys pay more in hopes that that will guarantee them better service. The fact is that from girl to girl, day to day, trick to trick, there are no guarantees. It's all luck of the draw for that particular go round.[/QUOTE]True! That approach makes sense and you never know when you'll turn up a diamond newbie who only knows Novio Sexo. But at my age I can only nut twice a day and I have to manage my leche allocation these days. LOL.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1689423]How is the mansion? Is there any new Girls (New Talent) or is it the same girls from Last Year. I was there in August 2014 and I'm going there in April 2015. Wanted to know if there is New Blood![/QUOTE]I saw quite a few new girls, and many old timers. There was a birthday party last Sunday and there were close to 50 girls at the Cueva. It was awesome! Met quite a few new girls and got their FB handle. I was somehow limited because I had a date with me that night. Better to hit those parties alone.

I know a newbie question, DR vet but going here for the first time soon, Can Cialis be found without prescription or some generic form of Tadalafil like La Pela?

Thanks.

Doker44.

[QUOTE=Doker44;1689696]I know a newbie question, DR vet but going here for the first time soon, Can Cialis be found without prescription or some generic form of Tadalafil like La Pela?

Thanks.

Doker44.[/QUOTE]Yes a generic form of Tadalafil (I don't know if its Cialis or Viagra) is available in just about any pharmacy in Colombia without prescription. I've bought these blue pills for a friend of mine several times. Don't use it myself but my friend likes the stuff and swears by it; and its cheap.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1689707]Yes a generic form of Tadalafil (I don't know if its Cialis or Viagra) is available in just about any pharmacy in Colombia without prescription. I've bought these blue pills for a friend of mine several times. Don't use it myself but my friend likes the stuff and swears by it; and its cheap.[/QUOTE]I've never seen Cialis or even the generic form of it in Medellin. It's always been Viagra or the generic form.

Best bet is just to bring your own. If you end up in the DR before you make it to Colombia, then just stock up on generic Cialis there.

I have bought Tadalafil, generic version of Cialis, in El Centro..

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1689728]I've never seen Cialis or even the generic form of it in Medellin. It's always been Viagra or the generic form.

Best bet is just to bring your own. If you end up in the DR before you make it to Colombia, then just stock up on generic Cialis there.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1689707]Yes a generic form of Tadalafil (I don't know if its Cialis or Viagra) is available in just about any pharmacy in Colombia without prescription. I've bought these blue pills for a friend of mine several times. Don't use it myself but my friend likes the stuff and swears by it; and its cheap.[/QUOTE]Tadalafil generic version of Cialis and is light brown in color and oval in shape. Viagra is blue and diamond shape.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1689730]Tadalafil generic version of Cialis and is light brown in color and oval in shape. Viagra is blue and diamond shape.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1689729]I have bought Tadalafil, generic version of Cialis, in El Centro..

.[/QUOTE]That's interesting. My buddy and I hit up about three different places in El Centro and they acted like they didn't know what we were talking about. They were all selling generic Viagra only.

I have never seen Cialias at any farmacias en Poblado or Laureles either. But who knows.

Worst fears realized. One week in this city and the best drug I had was scopolamine. I am not joking. Please do not use any escort services who send girls to your room even if the guy on the phone speaks english. I don't want to get into details about people as I am still in country and trying to avoid escalating the problem.

What happened. I was staying at 5-star hotel looking for a night of hookers and blow. Called service was sent girl. Called taxi was sent blow. The drugs were worse than the stuff I could by on the street of Detroit. No pure Colombian here. Threw most of it away. The girl tried to get me to try some new drug she had that she claimed was better than coke. She said it would make we float away or something. It looked like coke dyed red. I declined and a little while later asked her to leave.

The next day I woke up and she had left her little baggie of scop behind. I knew she was trying to get me which is why I asked her to leave and I knew I was looking at the very drug she wanted to use on me. So there I was alone in my hotel room. And I tried it. I wanted to see how it could cloud someone's judgement and make them do these things. The first feeling is that of being made of helium and floating towards the ceiling. Then you are walking on a moon bounce, then tunnel vision where everything not directly in front of you is out of focus. This is maybe 5 minutes into it. I looked at my safe and thought what would happen is someone asked for the combination. The next thing that happened is I woke up 24 hours later. Complete blackout. No memory. Thirsty, groggy, that's about it. I've done a lot of drugs in my life mesc, shrooms, acid, ecstasy, weed and coke but I have never felt something like this. My head was literary floating away. I took it stone sober and knew I took it and maybe I had five minutes to get myself over to my bed knowing I was going down. If it had been administered to be during drinking / sex / partying unbeknownst I don't know if I would have had time to call reception and tell them I was drugged or kick the girl out before I went down. I suppose after you pass out they wake you up and you're so groggy you say yes to everything. They point at the safe, you open it, they take you to the ATM you punch in the code. Scary.

I'm here by myself because I like crazy wild west kind of stuff but I think Medellin has shown me my limit. Time for me to turn around. Gringo alone at night here is too much of a target for these girls and their handlers to let slip past. There are some serious predators afoot. I like the girls padding around my apartment playing girlfriend but I don't think I'll find that here unless I live here.

It's not been all bad. I went to the Blue Room on Calle 33 #78, a little set of aluminum doors with a small neon "aberto" above, on the side of the street heading towards Medellin, very nice girls. I went in just for a massage and Salome made sure I didn't settle for just that even though.

Since my fantasy about what Medellin had in store for me was markedly different that what the city had in mind, I'm going to try to spend my remaining time at the casino playing cards and indulging in daytime runs for massages and girls and the various casas.

All in all a beautiful city with gorgeous women definitely worth spending the time to get in good with the locals and have access to reliable girls unfortunately my current life status does not offer me the opportunity to do so.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1689735]I have never seen Cialias at any farmacias en Poblado or Laureles either. But who knows.[/QUOTE]What? Cialis is very common in Medellin, the vast majority of the pharmacies carry it. I've never seen a pharmacy that DIDN'T carry Cialis, and that includes every major city in Colombia along with San Andres.

You are correct regarding the generic, I've never seen it.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1622283][URL]www.colombiajake.com[/URL] not hard at all USA 727-498-1680.[/QUOTE]Its been a really good winter season and just want to thank all the guys that have come down and had so much fun here on their vacations! Things are starting to slow down for the summer, but I'm always here to get you up to speed in a hurry! Our newest girl is Geraldine and there are a lot better shots of her but I can assure you she aims to please and she's nice to look at and be around.

Thanks,

Jake

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1689735]That's interesting. My buddy and I hit up about three different places in El Centro and they acted like they didn't know what we were talking about. They were all selling generic Viagra only.

I have never seen Cialias at any farmacias en Poblado or Laureles either. But who knows.[/QUOTE]I was just passing a pharmacy in Poblado on my way to a haircut, and can confirm they do sell Cialis as well as a generic version, but they were pricey. I don't recall the exact amount, but for a two tablet box of 20 MG. Generic tadalfil they wanted around 40 K pesos. At that price it's better to just get in shape so don't need the stuff!

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1689908]I was just passing a pharmacy in Poblado on my way to a haircut, and can confirm they do sell Cialis as well as a generic version, but they were pricey. I don't recall the exact amount, but for a two tablet box of 20 MG. Generic tadalfil they wanted around 40 K pesos. At that price it's better to just get in shape so don't need the stuff![/QUOTE]Thanks for the confirmation. The timeframe I was looking for it was back in 2012 on my first trip there. But on every subsequent trip I have just brought my own, so things may have changed since then.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOnTheRun;1689763]
What happened. I was staying at 5-star hotel looking for a night of hookers and blow. Called service was sent girl. Called taxi was sent blow. The drugs were worse than the stuff I could by on the street of Detroit. No pure Colombian here. Threw most of it away. The girl tried to get me to try some new drug she had that she claimed was better than coke. She said it would make we float away or something. It looked like coke dyed red. I declined and a little while later asked her to leave.
[/QUOTE]When she offered it to you, you should have told her: "show me how it's done. " I doubt she would have done the first line because no good if the both of you are passed out for 24 hrs, LOL. But you made the right call in giving her the boot.

Usually when you hear of gringos getting themselves into trouble in foreign countries, 9 times out of 10 it is drug related; be it alcohol (drunk as fuck) or the hard stuff.

Thanks everyone for the info. AlwaysOnTheRun, you scaring the hell out of me.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1689992]Thanks for the confirmation. The timeframe I was looking for it was back in 2012 on my first trip there. But on every subsequent trip I have just brought my own, so things may have changed since then.[/QUOTE]Cialis has been sold in Medellin and every where else in Colombia long before 2012. I'm a 20 year Colombia vet, and my first trip to Medellin was 1999. I appreciate your over 2000 posts here, but sometimes members should cut back on their posting when they really don't know what they are talking about, with all due respect.

Sitting here on my last night in MDE with the novia at a nice hotel in Poblado. Just spent 3 nights in all at the mansion. That place is poppin. Rooms are full plenty of chicas on duty everything you need is there. I always contemplate getting an apt I decided its just not for me yet. I need to wait until I am a full MDE vet. I won't go into any names because they all basically use the same 3 or 4 names LOL. And they are all from Bello LOL. I averaged at least 4 chicas a day. But I started early. Usually booking my first chica the night before for a 10 am appt. Had 2 threesomes in the same day. Guess you can call it a quadruple LOL. All the chicas are nice lots of GFE. I finally met Geraldine. She is a looker for sure. Beautiful face. Has had I think 2 babies but you can't tell. Flat belly nice tits and ass. I was with 2 other chicas that day otherwise I wouldve sampled. I realized I need to book more nights. 2-4 nights just not long enough always feeling rushed. I had 2 overnights. One with 2 chicas that were fantastic. Anybody have cold feet about MDE come on down. Or not just means more girls for us.

Met a few guys that watch this board everyone was really cool. Thinking about coming back in the summer.

I did have 1 experience I am not sure if its a bad or good one. LOL. I was at the cueva I had just sent a chica home and was looking for 1 more to complete the night. That was the night after the big party so lots of chicks were hungover and not there. So there was 1 chick there with nice tits and ass. A little plump. I need my girls with some meat on their bones. So we start chatting remember I'm 100% fluent in spanish. So she tells a little about herself. She's an attorney or something. Bla bla bla. Has a model sister but won't bring her over. Bla bla bla. So she says short time 220 k. I said what?! 150 k is max. She says that's 2 years ago pricing. Bla bla bla the economy. Bla bla bla. She said overnight 470 k. I said does that include your sister too? She said no but taxi is included. By this time I'm ready to give this chick the boot but there are only 2 spinners left. What am I to do. I said 300 k for overnight is my price. She kept talking bla bla bla. We settled at 350 k all night. As much as I didn't want to felt like not much left it was 2 am. I know big mistake and shouldve seeked other options. Sorry fellas won't happen again. So we get to the room and she is all GFE banging body very attentive straighting up my room and shit I'm thinking mybe the extra 50 k is worth it. We are into it doggystyle. She says you like anal? I said eh not my thing but I'm down. She said that is extra I'm like fuck this chick doesn't give up!! I said baby I need my dick sucked she does as I say. In my head I am thinking I'm going to make this worth the extra 50 k one way or another! I made her stay down there close to 1 HR. Then we kept going for About another 30 min later. The thing is this chick is my type and loves to ride all positions she just needs her mouth wired. We wake up 7 am great morning sex and she's off. So was it a bad experience bc of the extra 50 k or not so bad bc of the great sex? At this point I can't figure out how many stars to give her on her yelp review. LOL. Feel free to comment I may catch some grief I deserve it.

Here's a few pics from the trip enjoy! The novia is out of the shower can't wait to clear a place for her to sit on my face. LOL.

Enjoy fellas here a few more pics that didn't fit in the prev report.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1690114]Sitting here on my last night in MDE with the novia at a nice hotel in Poblado. Just spent 3 nights in all at the mansion. That place is poppin. Rooms are full plenty of chicas on duty everything you need is there. I always contemplate getting an apt I decided its just not for me yet. I need to wait until I am a full MDE vet. I won't go into any names because they all basically use the same 3 or 4 names LOL. And they are all from Bello LOL. I averaged at least 4 chicas a day. But I started early. Usually booking my first chica the night before for a 10 am appt. Had 2 threesomes in the same day. Guess you can call it a quadruple LOL. All the chicas are nice lots of GFE. I finally met Geraldine. She is a looker for sure. Beautiful face. Has had I think 2 babies but you can't tell. Flat belly nice tits and ass. I was with 2 other chicas that day otherwise I wouldve sampled. I realized I need to book more nights. 2-4 nights just not long enough always feeling rushed. I had 2 overnights. One with 2 chicas that were fantastic. Anybody have cold feet about MDE come on down. Or not just means more girls for us.

Met a few guys that watch this board everyone was really cool. Thinking about coming back in the summer.

I did have 1 experience I am not sure if its a bad or good one. LOL. I was at the cueva I had just sent a chica home and was looking for 1 more to complete the night. That was the night after the big party so lots of chicks were hungover and not there. So there was 1 chick there with nice tits and ass. A little plump. I need my girls with some meat on their bones. So we start chatting remember I'm 100% fluent in spanish. So she tells a little about herself. She's an attorney or something. Bla bla bla. Has a model sister but won't bring her over. Bla bla bla. So she says short time 220 k. I said what?! 150 k is max. She says that's 2 years ago pricing. Bla bla bla the economy. Bla bla bla. She said overnight 470 k. I said does that include your sister too? She said no but taxi is included. By this time I'm ready to give this chick the boot but there are only 2 spinners left. What am I to do. I said 300 k for overnight is my price. She kept talking bla bla bla. We settled at 350 k all night. As much as I didn't want to felt like not much left it was 2 am. I know big mistake and shouldve seeked other options. Sorry fellas won't happen again. So we get to the room and she is all GFE banging body very attentive straighting up my room and shit I'm thinking mybe the extra 50 k is worth it. We are into it doggystyle. She says you like anal? I said eh not my thing but I'm down. She said that is extra I'm like fuck this chick doesn't give up!! I said baby I need my dick sucked she does as I say. In my head I am thinking I'm going to make this worth the extra 50 k one way or another! I made her stay down there close to 1 HR. Then we kept going for About another 30 min later. The thing is this chick is my type and loves to ride all positions she just needs her mouth wired. We wake up 7 am great morning sex and she's off. So was it a bad experience bc of the extra 50 k or not so bad bc of the great sex? At this point I can't figure out how many stars to give her on her yelp review. LOL. Feel free to comment I may catch some grief I deserve it.

Here's a few pics from the trip enjoy! The novia is out of the shower can't wait to clear a place for her to sit on my face. LOL.[/QUOTE]The girl in the striped blouse is an all star, she's GFE. Cares enough to straighten up the room, stays all night and morning sex!! At 2500 exchange, what's that $140 not bad and what blow the whole deal for $20? The point is you worked her as low as she would go and you had a great session. It's not just about getting a low price, it's about getting the girl you want at the best price you can get. Ignore the guys on here who will criticize because of what you paid. About 3 years ago I was in Costa Rica, I was crossing the street from the DR to Key Largo and I stopped in my tracks when I saw this girl coming from the opposite direction, she was maybe 21,22 and a sweet looking Jessica Alba look a like. Perfect skin, hair nails, 100% buffed out, never guess she was working if you saw her at the bus stop. At the time $100 was the top of the food chain. She hit me at $120 I worked her for 5 minutes or so and then walked because it was the principle of the thing, I wasn't paying $120 even though I had a few thousand with me. I am still kicking myself in the ass for that. I sure showed her, I saved $20.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOnTheRun;1689763]Worst fears realized. One week in this city and the best drug I had was scopolamine. I am not joking. Please do not use any escort services who send girls to your room even if the guy on the phone speaks english. I don't want to get into details about people as I am still in country and trying to avoid escalating the problem.

What happened. I was staying at 5-star hotel looking for a night of hookers and blow. Called service was sent girl. Called taxi was sent blow. The drugs were worse than the stuff I could by on the street of Detroit. No pure Colombian here. Threw most of it away. The girl tried to get me to try some new drug she had that she claimed was better than coke. She said it would make we float away or something. It looked like coke dyed red. I declined and a little while later asked her to leave.

The next day I woke up and she had left her little baggie of scop behind. I knew she was trying to get me which is why I asked her to leave and I knew I was looking at the very drug she wanted to use on me. So there I was alone in my hotel room. And I tried it. I wanted to see how it could cloud someone's judgement and make them do these things. The first feeling is that of being made of helium and floating towards the ceiling. Then you are walking on a moon bounce, then tunnel vision where everything not directly in front of you is out of focus. This is maybe 5 minutes into it. I looked at my safe and thought what would happen is someone asked for the combination. The next thing that happened is I woke up 24 hours later. Complete blackout. No memory. Thirsty, groggy, that's about it. I've done a lot of drugs in my life mesc, shrooms, acid, ecstasy, weed and coke but I have never felt something like this. My head was literary floating away. I took it stone sober and knew I took it and maybe I had five minutes to get myself over to my bed knowing I was going down. If it had been administered to be during drinking / sex / partying unbeknownst I don't know if I would have had time to call reception and tell them I was drugged or kick the girl out before I went down. I suppose after you pass out they wake you up and you're so groggy you say yes to everything. They point at the safe, you open it, they take you to the ATM you punch in the code. Scary.

I'm here by myself because I like crazy wild west kind of stuff but I think Medellin has shown me my limit. Time for me to turn around. Gringo alone at night here is too much of a target for these girls and their handlers to let slip past. There are some serious predators afoot. I like the girls padding around my apartment playing girlfriend but I don't think I'll find that here unless I live here.

It's not been all bad. I went to the Blue Room on Calle 33 #78, a little set of aluminum doors with a small neon "aberto" above, on the side of the street heading towards Medellin, very nice girls. I went in just for a massage and Salome made sure I didn't settle for just that even though.

Since my fantasy about what Medellin had in store for me was markedly different that what the city had in mind, I'm going to try to spend my remaining time at the casino playing cards and indulging in daytime runs for massages and girls and the various casas.

All in all a beautiful city with gorgeous women definitely worth spending the time to get in good with the locals and have access to reliable girls unfortunately my current life status does not offer me the opportunity to do so.[/QUOTE]I posted a video last week about this stuff on Bogota side, very bad if you get dosed. BTW always a bad idea to have any drugs on your person or in your room when your in a foreign country.

It is the Nazi truth drug!

Wife interrogating you with the drug administered, well, you would blurt out all you have hidden from her wife till date, including 'number of times' and 'so many of them'!

Headed to El Centro early afternoon to get some more chica clothes for gifts, then planned on visiting some casas when I remembered a girl my buddies told me about last week. I decided to give her a try and sure enough she was a gem, tight body, thin, pretty face and very, very GFE. I'd share her name and location but since I didn't discover her and friends did, I'll keep their secret.

Later I met up with a buddy and we cruised a few titty bars after strolling by the street hookers down Calle 53. Saw a big love hotel that I've never been to but will try out one day when I'm not spent, it's on Cucuta or Cundinamarca off Calle 53. It can get a little sketchy in that area, but with the right wingman shouldn't have any problems. Worth the adventure for sure.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1690160]The girl in the striped blouse is an all star, she's GFE. Cares enough to straighten up the room, stays all night and morning sex!! At 2500 exchange, what's that $140 not bad and what blow the whole deal for $20? The point is you worked her as low as she would go and you had a great session. It's not just about getting a low price, it's about getting the girl you want at the best price you can get. Ignore the guys on here who will criticize because of what you paid. About 3 years ago I was in Costa Rica, I was crossing the street from the DR to Key Largo and I stopped in my tracks when I saw this girl coming from the opposite direction, she was maybe 21,22 and a sweet looking Jessica Alba look a like. Perfect skin, hair nails, 100% buffed out, never guess she was working if you saw her at the bus stop. At the time $100 was the top of the food chain. She hit me at $120 I worked her for 5 minutes or so and then walked because it was the principle of the thing, I wasn't paying $120 even though I had a few thousand with me. I am still kicking myself in the ass for that. I sure showed her, I saved $20.[/QUOTE]Many, many years ago in Las Vegas the going rate was $50. One night I ran into the most beautiful woman I had ever seen. She wanted $100. She would not budge. I told her " why don't you.

Go with me later if you don't get any other customer. I'll be right here playing blackjack". It was late at night so I thought she would come back to me. I was at the time in good shape, and.

Considered my self fairly good looking so I was sure she would return to me. Turns out she did not return, and I went broke playing blackjack while waiting for her.

Like you I still regret not paying what she asked for as she had a face like an angel.

Regarding the conversation on cialis and generics being available in MDE, I was at another pharmacy in Centro Commercial Santa Fe this morning, and they had a whole boner pill shelf displayed prominently in a glass case by the register. Besides having Cialis branded and generic, they had all sorts of things I didn't know existed, like liquid spray Viagra (sildenafil) and chewable (masticable) pill form sildenafil. Didn't check prices except for the generic tadalafil (cialis), and it she said it was 20 K for one pill, which is the same as other pharmacy in Poblado the other day.

Even with the favorable exchange rate, that's $8 US for a hard on!

Ventured out to Mayorista last night to meet up with a friend around 9 pm. There were already many hookers out walking the street and hanging out in doorways. Here the girls definitely like to party vs. El Centro strip clubs where the ladies want to accumulate credits (buttons) for each drink you order them, so as to get paid at the end of the night. In Mayorista, they were drinking beers in between shots of aguardiente and little bumps of coke. I wouldn't describe them as sloppy or wasted, just partying while staying moderate.

There were definitely a few hotties, and like usual in MDE, something for everyone. I chose a petite blond with blue contacts mostly because she had a pretty face and beautiful skin, with no belly pouch on the front. She was older than I typically like, but they can be fun sometimes too, and as long as her body was banging I'll take her for a spin.

Here's where Mayorista takes some Spanish proficiency. Once to the hourly room (rented 2 hours for 20 K pesos), the prices start changing along with the services that were promised in advance. She didn't even have lubricant, which I asked about back at the bar! I politely told her I'll just leave when she changed her tune, and reverted back to the original deal. Anyway, she was hot to look at but she was a dud. She tried to put the condom on me as soon as I pulled my pants down and wasn't even hard yet. I had to tell her every little step, got my BBBJ until big and hard, then just decided to jerk off until I spunked a sticky wad onto her shaved mons pubis. Little talk afterward since I wasn't interested in having more beers or anything with her. Instead, I decided to salvage the night by cruising the strip again and gathering as many phone numbers as possible from girls I'd be interested in doing next time, including a leggy 20 year old (thin, tall) named Yamila. Seeing as my friend had a similar experience, next time I'll line up a few of the ones I liked ahead of time, even pre-qualify on the phone prior.

In any case, a bad day here is still better than a good one in US sex prison!

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1690165]I posted a video last week about this stuff on Bogota side, very bad if you get dosed. BTW always a bad idea to have any drugs on your person or in your room when your in a foreign country.[/QUOTE]Good story.

A tadalafil pill is for a week. No?

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1690303]
Even with the favorable exchange rate, that's $8 US for a hard on![/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1690776]A tadalafil pill is for a week. No?.[/QUOTE]Should last between 24-48 hours depending on the person. Can linger a little longer in the system though. YMMV.

Your joking right?

I know many of guys that need it every day, and me.

They have 2 MG for daily use.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1690826]3 to 4 days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1690829]Your joking right?

I know many of guys that need it every day, and me.

They have 2 MG for daily use.[/QUOTE]Half life is 17.5 hours. So, a regular Cialis tablet is typically reported to continue its effects for 36 hours. Smaller doses are available for daily doses.

Although available since 2003 in 5, 10,20 MG dosage, in late 2008/ early 2009, the USA FDA approved the commercial sale of Cialis in 2. 5 MG dosage as a one-a-day treatment for ED. The 2. 5 MG dose avoids earlier dispensing restrictions on higher dosages. The price of the 5 MG and 2. 5 MG are often similar, so some people score and split the pill. Both physicians and the manufacturer warn against splitting the pill, especially since it is enterically coated and splitting might impact absorption.

All information stolen from Wikipedia: [URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tadalafil[/URL].

Me, I prefer Levitra because it has a much shorter half life and is completely out of my system in must 6 hours. I just use a 1/4 tablet for those marathon sessions on consecutive days. The much shorter half life allows me to more easily regulate the amount in my system and then, it quickly clears my system a few hours later.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1690829]Your joking right?

I know many of guys that need it every day, and me.

They have 2 MG for daily use.[/QUOTE]Why would I joke about that. Of course some people may take it everyday if they think they need it, but really it lasts longer than you think. Also for me on the third day it is just as effective as the first day.

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1690781]Should last between 24-48 hours depending on the person. Can linger a little longer in the system though. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I take Cialis, 2 MG and I have not seen it even last 24 hours. Also, it may not start right away. My doctor told me to have a couple of days of head start and then it works well on the 3rd day and I am taking it daily on my mongering trips. It has to be in the body at the end and may last another day at that time. While mongering, I do drink 4 - 6 total beers a night and I think that does have a negative effect or the pill may last longer without alcohol, maybe more than 24 hours. The company says it lasts up to 36 hours and it may be in perfect conditions, no alcohol, no drugs and a healthy young man!

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1690877]I take Cialis, 2 MG and I have not seen it even last 24 hours. Also, it may not start right away. My doctor told me to have a couple of days of head start and then it works well on the 3rd day and I am taking it daily on my mongering trips. It has to be in the body at the end and may last another day at that time. While mongering, I do drink 4 - 6 total beers a night and I think that does have a negative effect or the pill may last longer without alcohol, maybe more than 24 hours. The company says it lasts up to 36 hours and it may be in perfect conditions, no alcohol, no drugs and a healthy young man![/QUOTE]I'm wondering why you 2 MG guys don't just kick it up to 5 or 10 MG?

I only use Cialis because it helps to assist with sport fucking. I usually do my first one or two sessions unassisted, then I split a 10 MG pill and take the one half, then he other half 3 days later. My experience has been that it is good for at least 72 hrs. Once Cialis is in your system you are good to go whenever. None of that having to wait 30-45 minutes bullshit like Viagra. Plus the half life of Viagra is only 4 to 5 hours, so if you are banging multiple chicas per day all day, you would have to continuously have to eat blue pills. Can't see how that would be good for you at all.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1690881]I'm wondering why you 2 MG guys don't just kick it up to 5 or 10 MG?

I only use Cialis because it helps to assist with sport fucking. I usually do my first one or two sessions unassisted, then I split a 10 MG pill and take the one half, then he other half 3 days later. My experience has been that it is good for at least 72 hrs. Once Cialis is in your system you are good to go whenever. None of that having to wait 30-45 minutes bullshit like Viagra. Plus the half life of Viagra is only 4 to 5 hours, so if you are banging multiple chicas per day all day, you would have to continuously have to eat blue pills. Can't see how that would be good for you at all.[/QUOTE]I can't see how it's better to have those drugs constantly in your system all day and all night, which is the case with Cialis. With the other ED drugs, it's pretty much only in your system when you are engaging in fun activities. It's not coursing around in your veins when you're sleeping at night or the next day on your trip home. Why would I want that stuff in my veins when I can't benefit from it?

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;1690889]I can't see how it's better to have those drugs constantly in your system all day and all night, which is the case with Cialis. With the other ED drugs, it's pretty much only in your system when you are engaging in fun activities. It's not coursing around in your veins when you're sleeping at night or the next day on your trip home. Why would I want that stuff in my veins when I can't benefit from it?[/QUOTE]So is your argument that you are afraid you may wake up with a boner?

I guess it's different strokes for different folks (pun intended). If your chica wakes up next to you horny and wants to fuck, would you rather be "ready" with "Vitamin C" (Cialis) in you? Or are you going grab your Viagra and tell her: "sure baby, just give me 30-45 minutes."

Which seems like the more favorable situation?

It all depends on your age. Sometimes a 10 MG Cialis does nothing.

I prefer 50 MG Sandoz (Sildenafil) (from Argentina). They costs me less than $2. Each. The more you buy the cheaper it is.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1690874]Why would I joke about that. Of course some people may take it everyday if they think they need it, but really it lasts longer than you think. Also for me on the third day it is just as effective as the first day.[/QUOTE]

I don't agree with the idea of ordering drugs to be delivered to your hotel room. It sets you up as a target for the sort of thing that almost happened to you - - and for the police to shake you down. For me, it's in the same category as barebacking. If guys want to do it they will have to deal with the consequences.

The part of your story that floored me was you trying the scop or whatever it was. You could have died. I personally would have wrapped my hand in a plastic bag, pick the stuff up, and flush it down the toilet as soon as possible. You are a lucky man, luckier still if you learned enough to not repeat the behavior.

[QUOTE=AlwaysOnTheRun;1689763]Worst fears realized. One week in this city and the best drug I had was scopolamine. I am not joking. Please do not use any escort services who send girls to your room even if the guy on the phone speaks english. I don't want to get into details about people as I am still in country and trying to avoid escalating the problem.

What happened. I was staying at 5-star hotel looking for a night of hookers and blow. Called service was sent girl. Called taxi was sent blow. The drugs were worse than the stuff I could by on the street of Detroit. No pure Colombian here. Threw most of it away. The girl tried to get me to try some new drug she had that she claimed was better than coke. She said it would make we float away or something. It looked like coke dyed red. I declined and a little while later asked her to leave.

The next day I woke up and she had left her little baggie of scop behind. I knew she was trying to get me which is why I asked her to leave and I knew I was looking at the very drug she wanted to use on me. So there I was alone in my hotel room. And I tried it. I wanted to see how it could cloud someone's judgement and make them do these things. The first feeling is that of being made of helium and floating towards the ceiling. Then you are walking on a moon bounce, then tunnel vision where everything not directly in front of you is out of focus. This is maybe 5 minutes into it. I looked at my safe and thought what would happen is someone asked for the combination. The next thing that happened is I woke up 24 hours later. Complete blackout. No memory. Thirsty, groggy, that's about it. I've done a lot of drugs in my life mesc, shrooms, acid, ecstasy, weed and coke but I have never felt something like this. My head was literary floating away. I took it stone sober and knew I took it and maybe I had five minutes to get myself over to my bed knowing I was going down. If it had been administered to be during drinking / sex / partying unbeknownst I don't know if I would have had time to call reception and tell them I was drugged or kick the girl out before I went down. I suppose after you pass out they wake you up and you're so groggy you say yes to everything. They point at the safe, you open it, they take you to the ATM you punch in the code. Scary..[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1690881]I'm wondering why you 2 MG guys don't just kick it up to 5 or 10 MG?

I only use Cialis because it helps to assist with sport fucking. I usually do my first one or two sessions unassisted, then I split a 10 MG pill and take the one half, then he other half 3 days later. My experience has been that it is good for at least 72 hrs. Once Cialis is in your system you are good to go whenever. None of that having to wait 30-45 minutes bullshit like Viagra. Plus the half life of Viagra is only 4 to 5 hours, so if you are banging multiple chicas per day all day, you would have to continuously have to eat blue pills. Can't see how that would be good for you at all.[/QUOTE]I meant 20 MG of Cialis, not 2 MG. Mistake. Even the 20 MG does not do anything for me the first day. I might see a glimmer of hope on the 2nd day after the second tablet but with the 3rd tablet on the 3rd day, I feel real good. I prefer Cialis over Viagra as Viagra is only for a short time. I would rather be ready at anytime for sex than worry if I had taken Viagra or not. I have seen Cialis last longer for me when I do very little drinking, like only 2 beers a night. The more you drink, the effect is lesser.

First trip to Columbia. So I was really nervous and anxious. After I cleared the immigration, and just before I exited the inside area of the terminal, I stopped by the exchange place to get some pesos. I handed the guy 400 dollars. He counted a ton load of small bills in front of me and handed it to me.

I take the money, get into a cab and go to my hotel. After I check in, I look at the money to count them and become familiar with the currency. After a through count, I noticed that the guy shortchanged me. The number shown on the receipt, minus the taxi fare, was off by $ 50 dollars.

I can't but blame myself for this rookie mistake. Well, maybe the crooked person too. I should have only exchanged a small amount of money at the airport to pay the taxi fare. There are ATM'S all over the city. Including the airport. Plus my hotel was offering the same exchange rate as everybody else. Lesson learned!

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1691358]I meant 20 MG of Cialis, not 2 MG. Mistake. Even the 20 MG does not do anything for me the first day. I might see a glimmer of hope on the 2nd day after the second tablet but with the 3rd tablet on the 3rd day, I feel real good. I prefer Cialis over Viagra as Viagra is only for a short time. I would rather be ready at anytime for sex than worry if I had taken Viagra or not. I have seen Cialis last longer for me when I do very little drinking, like only 2 beers a night. The more you drink, the effect is lesser.[/QUOTE]Yes drinking doesn't help. Also for me I have better results if taken on a empty stomach. The first time I used it with food, and then I had some stomach discomfort.

If anybody is coming from the US soon and doesn't mind bringing a few items to Colombia, please PM me. For example, I'm running ow on my beloved KY liquid lubricant, all they have here is mostly gel based which dries out and gums up too quickly. Jaja.

Of course I'll pay for the items, and in return for your efforts I'll be happy to show you around, translate, or be your wingman to El Centro and buy a few beers. Be a team player!

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1691597]Yes drinking doesn't help. Also for me I have better results if taken on a empty stomach. The first time I used it with food, and then I had some stomach discomfort.[/QUOTE]For those that down't mind using sildenafil over tadalafil, the liquid spray the pharmacist showed me seemed to be the best overall deal. I assume each squirt is 1 ML, and the bottle holds 20 ML, she said each dose is 2 squirts, meaning 10 "uses" per bottle for only 22 K pesos or about $8. 80.

Gee, what happened to the trip reports?

This board was going so good. Now all I see is Cialis and Viagra stuff.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1691594]First trip to Columbia. So I was really nervous and anxious. After I cleared the immigration, and just before I exited the inside area of the terminal, I stopped by the exchange place to get some pesos. I handed the guy 400 dollars. He counted a ton load of small bills in front of me and handed it to me.

I take the money, get into a cab and go to my hotel. After I check in, I look at the money to count them and become familiar with the currency. After a through count, I noticed that the guy shortchanged me. The number shown on the receipt, minus the taxi fare, was off by $ 50 dollars.

I can't but blame myself for this rookie mistake. Well, maybe the crooked person too. I should have only exchanged a small amount of money at the airport to pay the taxi fare. There are ATM'S all over the city. Including the airport. Plus my hotel was offering the same exchange rate as everybody else. Lesson learned![/QUOTE]I have never had a problem arriving because I only change $100 at airport if I do not see a nearby ATM, so I know 200,000 + cop, always an even number not $50. Or $150, so easy calculate in your head. But leaving on my last trip I was selling COP buying $. I told the guy what I had but when he handed me $ and the receipt the receipt showed about 30 k or so less than what I had given him. This was 4 months ago so not sure of exact amount. Next time I would write down the amount of COP on a paper and give it to him with the cash and have him confirm that amount after he had counted my COP.

Forgot to mention that in my recent trip to El Centro I stopped at a "tienda naturista" to buy some herbal supplements, and the lady informed me they also had coca leaves. I was intrigued after seeing National Geographic and other programs about native Indians in the Andes in several countries chewing them for better digestion and to combat altitude sickness. At only 2 K pesos per package I picked up several to give them a try, though she recommended steeping like tea in hot water instead of chewing.

Tried them and really liked them, closer to green tea than a coke high, but nice overall feeling and entirely legal. I'll get some more next time when I hit the casas later this week.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1691640]I have never had a problem arriving because I only change $100 at airport if I do not see a nearby ATM, so I know 200,000 + cop, always an even number not $50. Or $150, so easy calculate in your head. But leaving on my last trip I was selling COP buying $. I told the guy what I had but when he handed me $ and the receipt the receipt showed about 30 k or so less than what I had given him. This was 4 months ago so not sure of exact amount. Next time I would write down the amount of COP on a paper and give it to him with the cash and have him confirm that amount after he had counted my COP.[/QUOTE]The receipt will always show the amount of exchange rate and how much your getting back from your exchange total. When you received your copa money count it again yourself for the exact amount to match the total. A lady at one of mall cambio try to short me 50 k copa and I caught the mistake after I count my cash before I leave the window. She has nothing to lose in short changing your money as she just say lo siento for mistake.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1690303]Regarding the conversation on cialis and generics being available in MDE, I was at another pharmacy in Centro Commercial Santa Fe this morning, and they had a whole boner pill shelf displayed prominently in a glass case by the register. Besides having Cialis branded and generic, they had all sorts of things I didn't know existed, like liquid spray Viagra (sildenafil) and chewable (masticable) pill form sildenafil. Didn't check prices except for the generic tadalafil (cialis), and it she said it was 20 K for one pill, which is the same as other pharmacy in Poblado the other day.

Even with the favorable exchange rate, that's $8 US for a hard on![/QUOTE]I used [URL]Topdrugstore.com[/URL].

They send from India to GB and from there to Colombia.

The average price for a 60 MG pill becomes $US1-2 instead of +$8 US.

A 60 MG pill is a strong dosis and can be used as 30 x 2.

In 9 out of 10 cases more than 30 MG doesn't improve anymore, since full effect is already achieved.

Combining, chewable generic sildelafil citrate and this generic Cialis from India, via GB, you only lack Levitra and maybe a ejeculation-preventive pill, but that is over-over capacity since Viagra normally blocks the ejeculation so good that you can choose if and when you want to let loose.

This combination, generic Viagra and Cialis, and high dosis, is strong and affects mood etc and it's no point taking it and then drink alkohol, even just a beer or two can decrease the effect.

I used this combination and dedicated a half day for sexual pleasure and not letting anything interfere, postponing social and gastronomic, cultural activities.

New Life is a perfect place, since there usuallly are several sexy girls available and being a sexrobot for some hours works well there, and in a place as Mayorista at late night.

Well.

If wanted, this [URL]topdrugstore.com[/URL] makes this pill usage very economical, and you can have a libido as a 18 yo whenever you want.

2013 I was without generic Cialis and it became expensive when I wanted my double Viagra / Cialis.

2014 I could choose freely and it was an important factor for getting the pleasure I wanted, when I wanted it!

Colombian girls are also serious lovers of "Verga", of hard meat, so it pays of for your partner as well, both prepago and novia!

The gym monthly fee and Cialis is the 2 things that are much more expensive in Colombia than in US / West Europe.

Topdrugstore and other sites that uses the re-packaging of parcels inside the European Union, and from there goes through customs in almost all the world is a service that affects my life very positively, and for many others to.

I had 2 parcels come to my apartment in Medellin. That saved me some $US500-1000-2000 during a 20 week stay, depending on how many times I had used original Cialis if I had been left with no options.

Viagra is the more potent pill, but the very long time Cialis is effective, like 12-24-36 hs makes it a "necessary" complement, it enhaces the spontanous erction that comes and goes, while Viagra must be taken timely adjacent to the real sex.

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You still asking your guests to bring there own towels!

AG.

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1689885]Its been a really good winter season and just want to thank all the guys that have come down and had so much fun here on their vacations! Things are starting to slow down for the summer, but I'm always here to get you up to speed in a hurry! Our newest girl is Geraldine and there are a lot better shots of her but I can assure you she aims to please and she's nice to look at and be around.

Thanks,

Jake[/QUOTE]

Guys,

I wanted to share something I've discovered. There is a peptide called PT-141 that can give you rock hard erections, like you had when you were 18 years old. It works in a totally different way than viagra / cialis (which dilate blood vessels to the penis).

PT 141 is a substance that has undergone some pretty big trials and is shown that it can work pretty well for ED. It has not been approved by the FDA. But, like many things in the world, you can get it through "Research" companies. It is not illegal to own or consume. This peptide is a derivative of Melanotan 2 which was developed by University of Arizona professors.

The drawback to this stuff is that it cannot be taken orally. It must be injected. I took it with me to MDE this last time and it worked fantastic. My boners were much harder than anything I have ever had including Viagra. Once you mix it, you only need the little insulin needles. It also can help you lose weight. I lost 3-4 lbs on my trip.

For you guys interested in experimenting and are not afraid of little insulin needles, this might be something to consider.

Here is a blog about the stuff: PT-141 Doses and Experiences. Page 1 - Bremelanotide PT-141 - Melanotan Forum.

I have some experience with this stuff, so if you need any help, let me know.

So apparently there was an earthquake in Colombia yesterday. Good thing I have never experienced one on any of my trips because it probably would have made me crap my pants, LOL.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1692987]So apparently there was an earthquake in Colombia yesterday. Good thing I have never experienced one on any of my trips because it probably would have made me crap my pants, LOL.[/QUOTE]It was the strongest one I've ever felt. It got going in all directions too, started side to side then when forward / backward as my condo started to creak. Also the longest lasting.

I'd run like hell but loving the exchange rate too much to leave, even if it means they have to pull me out of a pile of rubble!

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1692438]Guys.

I wanted to share something I've discovered. There is a peptide called PT-141 that can give you rock hard erections, like you had when you were 18 years old. It works in a totally different way than viagra / cialis (which dilate blood vessels to the penis).

PT 141 is a substance that has undergone some pretty big trials and is shown that it can work pretty well for ED. It has not been approved by the FDA. But, like many things in the world, you can get it through "Research" companies. It is not illegal to own or consume. This peptide is a derivative of Melanotan 2 which was developed by University of Arizona professors.

The drawback to this stuff is that it cannot be taken orally. It must be injected. I took it with me to MDE this last time and it worked fantastic. My boners were much harder than anything I have ever had including Viagra. Once you mix it, you only need the little insulin needles. It also can help you lose weight. I lost 3-4 lbs on my trip.

For you guys interested in experimenting and are not afraid of little insulin needles, this might be something to consider.

Here is a blog about the stuff: PT-141 Doses and Experiences. Page 1 - Bremelanotide PT-141 - Melanotan Forum.

I have some experience with this stuff, so if you need any help, let me know.[/QUOTE]Hey!

I thought this effect was found when a nasal, via the nose, spray was tested, both male and female participants in clinical tests reported increased sexual lust and funcion.

I can't stand needles, but to get PT 141 I would do it.

But what do you know about the nasal-spray?

Isn't an option anymore?

But good to hear it works even better than Viagra!

But there where unpleasant sideeffects reported; headache for sure, maybe others more dangerous, since it hasn't reached the market yet, not been fully approved by the FDA?

Can you combine it with Viagra, Cialis, how long does a shot last?

Does the erecion comes due to sexual stimulation alone, or does it just come inevitebly and you have to prepare, like being at the pool party at the Mansion, just grabbing girl after girl until the effects drops of, LOL?

I have never heard of a way to get it as a nasal spray. If you have never done your own injections, there is a learning curve. Plus, you will need to learn how to mix the solution and do it using sterile methods. Some of us have injected for a while, so its no big deal.

Yes, you can combine with viagra, but reduce the doseage because you won't need it. It takes 4-6 hours to kick in.

I have been told that it affects the brain instead of dilating blood vessels (like viagra). It actually affects libido, unlike viagra.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1693191]Hey!

I thought this effect was found when a nasal, via the nose, spray was tested, both male and female participants in clinical tests reported increased sexual lust and funcion.

I can't stand needles, but to get PT 141 I would do it.

But what do you know about the nasal-spray?

Isn't an option anymore?

But good to hear it works even better than Viagra!

But there where unpleasant sideeffects reported; headache for sure, maybe others more dangerous, since it hasn't reached the market yet, not been fully approved by the FDA?

Can you combine it with Viagra, Cialis, how long does a shot last?

Does the erecion comes due to sexual stimulation alone, or does it just come inevitebly and you have to prepare, like being at the pool party at the Mansion, just grabbing girl after girl until the effects drops of, LOL?[/QUOTE]

I'm back living in Medellin after about a 6 month absence. I've been living in and out of Medellin for 3-4 years now. When I'm gone I always feel the need to rush back, but when I get here I realize how nothing's changed. It's all still here and the same.

New Life It's still great. I went to NL one day while on my way to see a pretty hot chica from Paisa Devina's in Laureles. I only had about an hour until I was supposed to meet her, so I smoked and hit the El Centro streets and made my way over to NL to check out the lineup before seeing this girl. I'm not proud to say but I've been with like 6 girls from this current lineup of about 18 girls they presented this day. Some of these girls are working here a long time which is why the count of how many I've been with is so high. I've also been to NL now probably more than 100 times. One girl, a great beautiful little girl is back after a very long, from what I can tell, multi year hiatus. I'm sure many of you know her. They had a solid lineup like always.

So while I'm sitting in the sala at NL this chica from Paisa Devina's calls me and says she is going to be late and can we push our meeting back an hour. I tell her no that I can't. She says ok and we hang up and I'm meeting her in about an hour. Then I'm like duh, Hello, self. I'm sitting in NL right now!! I forgot to be in the moment for a moment. I blamed the lack of clarity on the weed. I called her back and told her no problem. Let's meet in 1. 5 hours. She loves for me that as she seemed she had a real issue and was relived. I have the fine people at NL present the girls to me again. I end up picking out a new girl to me and just had an amazing time with her for 1 hour. Just totally luck. Just hit it off with her for whatever reason and had a super time. With tip less than 100 k.

Headed over to Laureles to meet the other girl. She's still late which is fine with me and I had 5 or 6 beers first at a Laureles corner restaurant and bar with outdoor seating. Another beautiful day in Medellin. So many smiling girls. I love Laureles. I couldn't see myself living in this part of town because I love Medellin for the hills and vistas, (and the girls, people and food) but it's a super cool part of town to hang.

The girl from Paisa Devinas was good. From Bello. A pro's pro but in a good way. She was good. I won't be calling her again, but I would, and that's the key. She was good enough to call again.

Which leads me to a terrible experience I had with a girl from Masajitas Paisas. I had not used MP before. I had been checking out this girls photos for a bit and thought she was real hot, and we even communicated by phone for a few days prior before the day and she was very sweet. I arrive at the apartment and instantly I see she is not pretty. Body looks good, smells good, but not pretty. I would not have picked her out of a lineup. I guess I could of made a split second decision to tell her "no thank you" but I was smoking and not operating that fast I guess. So I roll with it. No BBBJ, no DATY, muchas reglas. Uggghh. She is like my anti prototype. I recognize I'm beat and just roll with it all. I end up getting BBBJ after some work and propina, but compared to what I get from girls on a regular basis, this was bad in my book. I chalked it up as a loss. She says to me, you could of asked on the phone before you came about sex oral why chupa sin condom and I would have told you. And that's true. But I don't think I'll ever do that. These days I get what I want so often I don't even need to bring it up. We all know that YMMV, and my mileage has been pretty good. After all of this time I know Colombianas like me, I look good, fit, speak Spanish and improving all the time, and I very rarely don't get what I'm looking for. I seriously wanted to tell her, "baby you are in the wrong business. You should not be a prostitute. " But I didn't and took off. 130 k + 50 k propina.

Abydos Great. Enough said. Let's leave it at that. 120 k.

Energy I'm not an Energy guy, but I should go and am going to go soon and report back. I have been there years ago and had a good time but I just don't get over there.

Blue Room Good. I prefer a bigger lineup than the 3-4 girls they have normally.

Speaking of bigger lineups, I went to Chicas Punto Com. This place has a 15-18 girl lineup all the time. I just wish some of them were hot. Not for me. So after the 18 girl presenta, the final chica is the hottest one and is a girl I know from the past. She was the new girl in a series of threesomes I was having all centered around this other girl, one of her friends, and let's just say it was a memorable time for all parties. So she sees me and is all excited and I am compelled to do an hour with her for the novelty. Bought her some beers and played around a while. These girls at CPC work hard, like 7 days, bell to bell hard. Again, not for me.

There are two other casas in this same building guys. They are small but worth a look.

Stopped in Coffee Shop one day. 5 girl lineup. I can't imagine how this would be any ones favorite spot which is what I read recently in a trip report, which is why I stopped in, but I couldn't see that at all. Very average IMO.

There are gems to be found in the El Centro casas. On one day recently, Medellin delivered to me a beautiful gift in way that only Medellin can. A fucking score. I found an absolutely banging chica in an El Centro casa, that can work at Fase Dos any day. She lives about an 1:20 outside of Medellin. What she is doing travelling to work and hour and a half each day, in an El Centro casa at these rates I have no idea. I see her and grab for an hour which turns into two hours. Went back the next day for more. She completely eliminated the desire for me or the ability to have sex with another girl for days. So I had to put off my regular girl, which saves me money. I like that. Anyway, will be seeing her again today and hopefully many many more times. I get bored of the casa trips in reality. I love it, but I also just love El Centro and I guess it's all part of it. But I do bore of the casa runs at this point. I'm looking for gems off the circuit and I can't find that in the casas. But on this day Medellin shined brightly on me and delivered one.

Speaking of Fase Dos It's great! I'm having a good time with some girls from here right now. While I can say that there are girls that are working here still for years, this is still the choicest place in town IMO. There are many very hot girls, some wow's and it only takes a few. If you like or enjoy the strip club scene then this is a must. I don't go to Fase unless I am prepared to drop money. A girl is 180 k if you pay cash. And drinks are expensive. You don't even need to discuss price with the girl. The guys in the front are going to charge you the house price no matter what and it's 180 k. You should only discuss if you are going to take them or not, and what services they will provide. BBBJ is much harder here but barely attainable with money. I tip all the girls 2 mil after they get off stage and come around for tips. It sends the right vibe, you respect the place and the girls and it just works out in the end to be the best strategy overall with having a great time. Adds to the overall expense of the night but IMO this is well worth it. If you don't have 400 k+ to drop in a night here my suggestion would be to avoid. If you have the money, go share a little and enjoy. And don't be silly and talk about the exchange rate, geez. No chicas are talking about it, don't be the first!

I'm not a big La Isla fan. I've been there, but I have not liked it. I am going to give it another chance however and will report back afterwards. I recognize the idea of having the highest price place up on the hill, with the light in the sky and all, and that this is being established as the high end of Medellin. But why would I want to pay high prices if I live here? It's a tourist trap in my opinion. I'll check it again as I said and report back, but I have not seen the value so far. But it does only take 1 great chica find to make it all worth it. Great spot in the daytime, for the great view. It's not open days to my knowledge.

San Diego It breaks my heart to report how badly this place has fallen off. I've had sooo many great times here over the years. Found so many great girls. It used to be a little proving ground for girls that would end up working at Fase Dos. But it has dropped off. By all means go check it out if you're hitting strip clubs, but I wouldn't buy a bottle or anything until you saw proof that you were going to stay awhile and have a good time. Again, many of the same girls working here for a long time. But I'll go again for certain. San Diego used to be one of my favorite spots so it has earned the opportunity to revisit from time to time. I hope for it's revival!!

Lune Luneras Good. For those of you guys that like lesbians this is your place. There is a large contingent of lesbians that comprise the working ranks of the girls at Luna Luneras. It's been that way for years. Geez they can probably unionize. I can't quantify what % exactly are straight lesbians but I'the say 60% or higher as my guess. Going out with a girl? This would be a good start. I think I'm going to bring a hottie to La Isla and see what that yields. Luna to me is very natural, very local. Good place, although I typically like my prepagos to prefer men over women. A good time can be had here most times. I've had some great times here. YMMV as usual.

I do like the El Centro strip clubs but don't go often. I'the be open to a wingman contacting me via PM if you are above all things, respectful to other people at all times. I've seen too many guys that are not from here that can't hold their booz or are disrespectful to others and then I get associated with that the next time and that is unacceptable to me. If you're cool, respect others, have a few bucks and looking for a wingman to roll out one night hit me up.

Mansion I've never been a Mansion guy but I'the like to try out La Cueva or one of the parties. The first time I arrived in Medellin I had already lived in multiple countries and did not need to be spoon fed chicas like the mansion provides which is great. Funny, my first apartment in Medellin was around the corner from it. I put my name on the mailing list but was never contacted about the last party a few weeks ago. I didn't hear about it until I read Ncals post about 50 girls being there. Hopefully someone will be able to post here that there is a party upcoming. I am always looking for new girls and one of these parties sounds like a great way to meet them.

Loutron Ahh Loutron. I hate it! Haha. It's a spectacle so by all means go and check it out. It's gorgeous. I live in the area and I know the area very well but had not been to the new one. I went last summer and had a terrible experience. Hot girls like I like them, but so "strict". Over the years I have had many great times there (the old one) and met many great girls. But today, I'm not fan. I get a lot on the YMMV scale from chicas and even I can't seem to make some progress here. They actually gave me like 75% of money back after I had a poor time there which was startling. I think it's become like a self-fulfilling prophecy over there with the girls. They are just not interested in doing what most of us are interested in doing. To me, I take friends that visit to see it, but I don't say, I'm going to treat myself and go to Loutron today! That doesn't happen.

Mayorista There has been some great trip reporting about the Mayo particularly by Shamester which has sparked my desire to try the Mayo again. I've never been a huge fan but I probably have not given it enough attention. I should go more often and give it a good run. I know many guys just love it. It also was startling to hear about the day time / morning action in El centro. It never ceases to amaze me the level of prostitution that exists here. I am not typically looking for daytime / morning street action as I'm typically doing things more wholesome at those hours, but I sure would like to know more. Anyone have any info? It's hard to believe girls of the quality that I'm looking for would be walking the street in El Centro somewhere in the morning.

Mileroticos thanks to Cerebro's fine posting I'm about to take the plunge and try some girls from this site. I've never tried it, but as I said I'm on the hunt for girls off of the tourist spots. Anybody have any experience using mileroticos. Please post or PM me. Thanks!

Escort Services There was a recent post by a regular member dude with like 2 posts to his name, Always On The Run, in which he talked about taking the potential scolpamine drug the girl from the escort service that he had asked to leave his room had left behind. I call bullshit on the whole story. So let me get this straight, you come to town, buy coke from a taxi driver you don't know, the girl comes from the escort service that you called and she brings scolpamine to drug you. You ask her to leave and then in the morning you take the very scolpamine she had left behind. In 5 minutes you are totally passed out and you wake up 24 hours later. What was she going to do? Lift your passed out ass over her shoulder and carry you down to the lobby of the 5 star hotel you are staying in, prop you up, splash cold water on your face and have you withdraw money from the ATM? The story is bullshit in so many ways. Do you know how many guys descend on this city every week, and that live here, that are using these escort services and no one is getting scolped. This druggie finds it first attempt. I have known multiple girls that work for the services and the ones that I know are sweethearts who wouldn't hurt a fly. They are just poor girls that look great and are hookers. Not criminals.

That's not to suggest that scolp doesn't exist. But it's the sensationalism that it gets that I think is BS. I walk around El Centro all the time, having smoked, and I'm not even close to getting scolped. I just know it, and am thankful for it. I think the guys that do get scolped get themselves setup for it. Many senior members here chimed in that they know people or of people that got scolped so I can't say it doesn't happen with certainty. Nor is my intention to start this topic. However, I don't use the escort services too much but I would like to in order to find new gems. Anybody that has experience using the services please share your experience for the benefit of the rest of us, or PM me. Thank you.

Colombia Jake- You make guys bring their own towels? And are you feeding those girls Jake? The photos you post, except for the last one, I'm always thinking geez, guys are flying all the way here to be with these girls Jake posts. What a shame and a waste of time and money IMO. Please feed the poor girls Jake!

Somebody mentioned a casa from a recent trip report, which is not on the list, Casa De Padua. Anyone with information they can share about it? I'the like to check it out.

I'm also planning, in my never ending pursuit for girls, pro or semi pro or even non pro at this point that are off the typical circuit, a run using Amo Latina and similar. If anyone has any information or experiences that they would like to share I would appreciate it. PM would be great and I thank you sincerely in advance.

Well that's what I have to offer today in the way of trip report. I hope that many enjoyed the read and gained some information and I look forward to hearing back from some of you with feedback. All the best and as Legal Tender likes to say, only good energy!

[QUOTE=Speculator;1693508]I'm back living in Medellin after about a 6 month absence. I've been living in and out of Medellin for 3-4 years now. When I'm gone I always feel the need to rush back, but when I get here I realize how nothing's changed. It's all still here and the same.

New Life It's still great. I went to NL one day while on my way to see a pretty hot chica from Paisa Devina's in Laureles. I only had about an hour until I was supposed to meet her, so I smoked and hit the El Centro streets and made my way over to NL to check out the lineup before seeing this girl. I'm not proud to say but I've been with like 6 girls from this current lineup of about 18 girls they presented this day. Some of these girls are working here a long time which is why the count of how many I've been with is so high. I've also been to NL now probably more than 100 times. One girl, a great beautiful little girl is back after a very long, from what I can tell, multi year hiatus. I'm sure many of you know her. They had a solid lineup like always.

So while I'm sitting in the sala at NL this chica from Paisa Devina's calls me and says she is going to be late and can we push our meeting back an hour. I tell her no that I can't. She says ok and we hang up and I'm meeting her in about an hour. Then I'm like duh, Hello, self. I'm sitting in NL right now!! I forgot to be in the moment for a moment. I blamed the lack of clarity on the weed. I called her back and told her no problem. Let's meet in 1. 5 hours. She loves for me that as she seemed she had a real issue and was relived. I have the fine people at NL present the girls to me again. I end up picking out a new girl to me and just had an amazing time with her for 1 hour. Just totally luck. Just hit it off with her for whatever reason and had a super time. With tip less than 100 k.

Headed over to Laureles to meet the other girl. She's still late which is fine with me and I had 5 or 6 beers first at a Laureles corner restaurant and bar with outdoor seating. Another beautiful day in Medellin. So many smiling girls. I love Laureles. I couldn't see myself living in this part of town because I love Medellin for the hills and vistas, (and the girls, people and food) but it's a super cool part of town to hang.

The girl from Paisa Devinas was good. From Bello. A pro's pro but in a good way. She was good. I won't be calling her again, but I would, and that's the key. She was good enough to call again....[/QUOTE]Kick ass report all around and I agree, El Centro is the place to be!

Speculator, Thanks for the great casa information. It will help motivate me to get away from El Castillo in the daytime when I get there mid June. I've done a few of low end casas NL included but would like to experience the mid level casas, Abydos, Energy, etc. I like the Mayorista too, lets go!

If you're around lets hook up. Thanks again.

Damn good report Speculator. Thanks for taking the time to post it.

Great report speculator. At last an excellent report and not more of the Viagra, cialis or other crap reports. Lots of great information I surely use for my next trip.

1st time on the ground in MDE so I'm still learning the ropes. I have a weak sauce wingman that can be like a dead weight but I will make it work.

Anyway, on to the report. We went based off the video found at the following link: [URL]http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin[/URL] . 1/2 HR vid a fellow member posted a while back. Thank you! Cannot watch on cell or tablet unless it has Flash installed. Most cells don't. I prefer to watch stuff on my laptop though.

Energy is in the Stadium Sector of el Centro I believe. Like I said, I'm rook so not exactly sure where I was but I do believe it was downtown. We went last night around 7 p. Taxi from Poblado's Mall Interplaza close to where we are staying. About 15 K (about $5. 70 at current rate of 2,628 COP) for the one way trip which was about 20-25 minutes. This place has no signs, as is the norm from my readings. Go up some stairs and ring the bell. A cleaning lady answers. Uneasy I step inside and I'm greeted by the Mamasan sitting behind a desk. Let me say she would get it too. Cute, plump paisa maybe late 30's, early 40's. My Spanish is rudimentary but at times I have flashes of brilliance with it, I think. Ha! I understood that she offered us drinks. I got a beer for about 5 K, added to my tab later on. We sat down in la sala and she explained what is included. Very similar to the video link above. Masaje, oral and penetration. She said something else but I didn't understand too well.

Ah prices. Began following paragraph and almost forgot. 130 K for 1 HR with 1 girl. 105 K for 1/2 HR with 1 girl. 220 K for 2 girls for an 1 HR. That's less than $100! I was winded and not too much in the mood so I knew 1 for an hour would suffice. Only 30 K more for the hour. About $10.

As we sipped, the presentation of the girls began. They came out smiled, said their names and showed us what they got. About 8-12 girls. I made a mental note of 2 in my head. Some came out with no smiles. So I knew I would not be going that direction. The girls were slender, curvy, and not a lot of plastic at this spot from what I noticed with the group of girls we had. I like a chic with style and a good heel game. If she's wearing the 1 inch old lady church heels most likely I'm not going to make that pick. My chica was slender but with sexy ass legs, hips and un culo. Pretty face, jet black hair to her bum and smile. 22 yo.

If you don't remember the girls, Mamasan will bring them back out to the sala all at once. I didn't care for this because it was like picking the team for the pickup game on the ball courts. One smiley cutie looked disappointed I didn't select her but maybe I will see her again. My boy picked a tall, chocolate drop with wavy hair and he said it was overly DOPE and gave her much kudos. He didn't get the quality massage he wanted but I'm sure that's secondary at these places.

My girl took me upstairs to our sala. The room was nice. Very clean, high quality. There was a nice leather chair to sit in and put my clothes in. There were mirrors and a table with a radio maybe CD player of good quality. She told me she liked reggaeton and I'm from the home of reggae so it worked out! Although I enjoy all music. The room is spacious with a nice bathroom with shower. I waited on her direction of what to do. There is a "bed" maybe a little bigger than a twin. It is not a real mattress but like a better quality pad they use in dorms / boot camps / jail. Not terrible. Probably for the ease of cleaning. Anyway, she didn't direct me to lay down. I really wanted to see if she would take charge or if there was a way she ran her session but no. I could have done with a nice rubdown too. She asked me to remove my clothes and I helped remove hers. No DFK. Not sure if it was just that both of us didn't go for it. I would have been game but you can sort of tell by incoming head moves when getting intimate. She danced and sang a little reggaeton and I did too. To try to build a little intimacy. I'm not totally in love with the casa runs because I need GFE. So to point at a chic and then go bang is a disconnect for me. But I'll do it! LOL. Rather have a chic like me off the personality and then she will do more with you with more chemistry.

She put the rubber on with su boca and was good at that. I can only imagine without the condom. Sheesh. She sucked on the huevos as well. Loved my somewhat formed pecs and was biting and licking. Told me no flacos she likes meaty, muscular men. She was fun and game with all positions but I'm a missionary man that likes to plunge deep. She had a little vibrator she played with initially and throughout changing positions. Rode me and spun her around to reverse which she did well. Feet planted froggy style. Which many girls will do knees down and struggle for movement. Couldn't do doggy for too long or too deep but all good.

Weak sauce came in my room and broke my train of thought. Fuck! Anyway, she said she came 2 times to my 1 and that she was the campeon. Haha! Took her too the shower and washed off together. Asked about seeing her outside of there and she was with it. Oh and I asked for a massage after. Was lackluster but oh well. Not really what you come for. Pun intended.

Energy was cool. Nice, clean and prices not bad at all. I paid a total of 175 K. Includes 20 mil propina to Mamasan and my chic.

I prefer my Quatro por Quatro in el centro Rio, Brazil. But even though, it's double the price plus, there is about 50+ girls, you can party and drink, build a connection before you go to the rooms. And I use my CC in the MFer. That's another story. Shows up as Amerika Fashion or some shit.

Also. I set up a Citibank account before I left the States. Since they seem to have branches in MDE and RIO. Trying to avoid some fees. If you set up in the branch they give you a temp card same day. I put some unds in and used my card at a Cajero ATM here in MDE before the cab ride to Energy. Pulled 400 K to test it out. Cajero ATM showed no fees. Came back and check my Citibank account this morning and no fees. Showed that I pulled $152.76. Looks like a straight up cash pull at about the current exchange rate. Let me know if I'm wrong though. Always good to have a second pair of eyes and other tangents of thoughts.

Hope this helps and is informative. On to more adventures today. Will report back!

Got a card from the Mamasan and it had the info below. Checked it out real quick and it has a 5 min video.

Relaxation Center Energy.

"For Executive people".

[URL]http://www.fantasiasenergy.com/[/URL]

Carrera 74 #49-101.

[QUOTE=MrFurley;1693901]1st time on the ground in MDE so I'm still learning the ropes. I have a weak sauce wingman that can be like a dead weight but I will make it work.

Anyway, on to the report. We went based off the video found at the following link: [URL]http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin[/URL] . 1/2 HR vid a fellow member posted a while back. Thank you! Cannot watch on cell or tablet unless it has Flash installed. Most cells don't. I prefer to watch stuff on my laptop though.

Energy is in the Stadium Sector of el Centro I believe. Like I said, I'm rook so not exactly sure where I was but I do believe it was downtown. We went last night around 7 p. Taxi from Poblado's Mall Interplaza close to where we are staying. About 15 K (about $5. 70 at current rate of 2,628 COP) for the one way trip which was about 20-25 minutes. This place has no signs, as is the norm from my readings. Go up some stairs and ring the bell. A cleaning lady answers. Uneasy I step inside and I'm greeted by the Mamasan sitting behind a desk. Let me say she would get it too. Cute, plump paisa maybe late 30's, early 40's. My Spanish is rudimentary but at times I have flashes of brilliance with it, I think. Ha! I understood that she offered us drinks. I got a beer for about 5 K, added to my tab later on. We sat down in la sala and she explained what is included. Very similar to the video link above. Masaje, oral and penetration. She said something else but I didn't understand too well.

Ah prices. Began following paragraph and almost forgot. 130 K for 1 HR with 1 girl. 105 K for 1/2 HR with 1 girl. 220 K for 2 girls for an 1 HR. That's less than $100! I was winded and not too much in the mood so I knew 1 for an hour would suffice. Only 30 K more for the hour. About $10..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, and I think Energy also accepts credit cards for a small fee ($5 K pesos or so).

The cambios at Oviedo are now offering closer to the official rate. I compared changing cash there and ATM withdrawals this week. The ATM net of the local fee worked out to about 2540. The cambio was 2515. Market rate was 2570 or so.

[QUOTE=MrFurley;1693901]
She put the rubber on with su boca and was good at that. I can only imagine without the condom. Sheesh.

Oh and I asked for a massage after. Was lackluster but oh well. Not really what you come for. Pun intended.

Energy was cool. Nice, clean and prices not bad at all. I paid a total of 175 K. Includes 20 mil propina to Mamasan and my chic.
[/QUOTE]Very good, detailed report my man. But I do have to call you out for one BIG rookie mistake:

Why did you tip the chica and the Mamasan 20 k? Especially given that the chica gave you a covered blowjob and a "lackluster" massage?

And what did the Mamasan do other than her job? I could see if she gave you some head on the way out the door.

I know it's your money, but don't bring your Brazil habits to Medellin. From what I understand, everyone at 4 x4 in Rio, from the cleaning ladies to the lady that cashes you out before you leave, all have their hands out asking for tips. I don't want to go to Energy and see that the Mamasan is now asking for tips even though she hasn't done a damn thing. For 20 k, she'd better be dropping those panties too!

To put things somewhat in perspective for you: I can have a chica come to my apartment for unrushed service, blow job sin condon, and two pops for 150K and 20K for her taxi to and from my apartment (10K each way). All this without every having to leave my place. And I don't give any propinas: I pay exactly what we negotiated.

Another great and detailed report. Instead of people in this board complaining about you being generous with your propina to the mamasan, they should acknowledge your pretty good contribution. Who cares about you giving a nice propina if you like the mamasan too and the casa service. I am sure the mamasan appreciated the gesture. I don't think that just because you tipped the mamasan now the prices are going to be inflated as the other member feels. I think these critics are just discouraging members to write trip reports and this why many people in this forum after years of being members and making numerous trips all over don't post crap and they just use the forum to get information just like the one you share. Mr. Furley please keep sharing more and thanks for taking the time to share. I need to visit Energy in my next visit. In my last trip I found the place walking right across a big sport field / complex, it was quite a long walk of about 1 hour (is my preferred method of finding places along with busetas) from an apartment I rented in Laureles [URL]http://tuapartamentomde.com/.[/URL] Once I found the place, I tried to get inside Energy but I was not able to. At the time, the doors wer closed and I did not see any bells to ring. I also did not have a phone with me or those people with minutes around to make a call around so I left. I definitely will try again in my next trip.

[QUOTE=MrFurley;1693901]1st time on the ground in MDE so I'm still learning the ropes. I have a weak sauce wingman that can be like a dead weight but I will make it work.

Anyway, on to the report. We went based off the video found at the following link: [URL]http://colombia.adultsearch.com/medellin[/URL] . 1/2 HR vid a fellow member posted a while back. Thank you! Cannot watch on cell or tablet unless it has Flash installed. Most cells don't. I prefer to watch stuff on my laptop though.

Energy is in the Stadium Sector of el Centro I believe. Like I said, I'm rook so not exactly sure where I was but I do believe it was downtown. We went last night around 7 p. Taxi from Poblado's Mall Interplaza close to where we are staying. About 15 K (about $5. 70 at current rate of 2,628 COP) for the one way trip which was about 20-25 minutes. This place has no signs, as is the norm from my readings. Go up some stairs and ring the bell. A cleaning lady answers. Uneasy I step inside and I'm greeted by the Mamasan sitting behind a desk. Let me say she would get it too. Cute, plump paisa maybe late 30's, early 40's. My Spanish is rudimentary but at times I have flashes of brilliance with it, I think. Ha! I understood that she offered us drinks. I got a beer for about 5 K, added to my tab later on. We sat down in la sala and she explained what is included. Very similar to the video link above. Masaje, oral and penetration. She said something else but I didn't understand too well...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PianoPlayer;1694330]The cambios at Oviedo are now offering closer to the official rate. I compared changing cash there and ATM withdrawals this week. The ATM net of the local fee worked out to about 2540. The cambio was 2515. Market rate was 2570 or so.[/QUOTE][URL]XE.com[/URL] has the official rate at 2668. What market rate are they basing this 2570 on?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1694386]Very good, detailed report my man. But I do have to call you out for one BIG rookie mistake:

Why did you tip the chica and the Mamasan 20 k? Especially given that the chica gave you a covered blowjob and a "lackluster" massage?

And what did the Mamasan do other than her job? I could see if she gave you some head on the way out the door.

I know it's your money, but don't bring your Brazil habits to Medellin. From what I understand, everyone at 4 x4 in Rio, from the cleaning ladies to the lady that cashes you out before you leave, all have their hands out asking for tips. I don't want to go to Energy and see that the Mamasan is now asking for tips even though she hasn't done a damn thing. For 20 k, she'd better be dropping those panties too!

To put things somewhat in perspective for you: I can have a chica come to my apartment for unrushed service, blow job sin condon, and two pops for 150K and 20K for her taxi to and from my apartment (10K each way). All this without every having to leave my place. And I don't give any propinas: I pay exactly what we negotiated.[/QUOTE]I don't tell people what to do, whether to tip or not, but the mamasan at Energy is one of the owners and thus I would never in that case.

130 k + 100 K tip (Over tipped fucked up cause I was fresh off the plane and big head had all the blood).

First stop went to Energy. It was late Saturday and there was only 2 girls working. I chose Francine. She's 26 5 3 with bolt ONS and tight lipo abs. Had to tip Extra for BBJ and kisses but worth it. Good massage and super tight vag. I was soo egar when she hopped on I was a 2 pump chump. I laughed with joy and she totally got it. I think I over tipped that night but I was fresh off the plane and didn't care. I hadn't boned in weeks!

120 K.

Next up went went an independents Casa. Laura. She's 27, Body and pics were real. She just got her ass done as well. Lots of kissing, passionate. Cover BJ but it was fine. She gave me the Reds beer stuff and I relaxed. She was Super into it, muy GFE. She was a 9 but the face was about a 7. 5. She did the strip tease, and was just in the moment. Her pussy is soo fucking pretty! Like one of those innie pussys where you can barely see any labia. She gets on top and keeps looking at the mirrors (vanity). Covered BJ. Lots of spitting and ball sucking. She gets on top first, sooooo tight! Fuck she was riding like a super pro. We switch it up, Did the slow passionate deep pounding as well as the fast hard doggy. I wasn't allowed to slap her ass though because she just had it done. What was weird though was when I Was pounding her hard she somehow slapped mine! I thought she wanted me to stop but she just liked it really deep an rough. We made out while she jerked me to completion on her man made perky tits. Her tits weren't cartoon just the right amount of silicone. She was also very clean and both hygentic. We showered and the thing that was cartoon was her huge fat injected ass!

300 K.

Ordered some take out. Francesca. She's about 23. She showed up on time. WOW! Her looks! She is a fucking knock out 10. She was wearing this all white draped dolly dress. It had so many holes but it stopped at the stomach and showed how flat and toned it really was. She was about 5 9 115 lb with no heels on. Skinny with Bolt ONS but done in proportion. Slamming tight ass. About 3/4 inch of thigh gap. She caught me off guard though when she got to my apartment she tells me how some working girl got murdered in my building by a crazy venizeulain dude and thrown off the balcony! Then she asks if I'm single. Weird. I am but that's odd. She tells me she has a BF yada yada. I dunno. We have a drink. She does this weird thing were when she takes a drink she blows up her cheeks like a blowfish and holds the drink for 9 seconds before swallowing. She did this with 2 cans of red so it took a minute just to get to the biz. (No clock watching) She gets close to me, staring at my eyes like a lover, long and deep with no words said. 15 seconds no talking felt like forever. She would not kiss on the lips so, so much for that Romance. She kisses me everywhere else. She gets topless, holy fuck her body is. A sculpture. After walking around naked and letting me film it. (Which BTW she asked me to delete but I bait & switched my phone and showed her a different phone so I got to keep all the pics!) got her in the bed, peeled off her undies with her small hip bone pertruding. I had to munch that amazing tight box. She has a beautiful pussy, the type that makes the front page of reddit. Performance wise She was half into it half not. I did all the techniques but I could tell her mind wasn't there. She did a covered BJ even after I said I'd tip her. Nope cover only! Her performance was semi mechanical. Did all positions. When I was fucking her I pulled off the rubber and she let me finish on her stomach and tits and jerked it to completion all over her. After she showered she stayed longer (almost 2 1/2 hours instead of 90 min) enjoying all the music I was showing her and company. She left and I sent her on her way.

130 K + 50 K tip.

Went back to energy late Tuesday night This time. Amazing line up. It was between two and I chose Angela. She was only 19 years old!! An all natural spinner. Small tits and ass. Holy Fuck was she amazing!! So much chemistry. Could take a dick hard and gave a great massage. I remember nailing her doggy and I couldn't take it and had to pop in the rubber. She was dope. I'll definitely see her again with one of her friends. No kissing on the lips, though and it was covered BBJ which I didn't care about cause she was doing everything right.

110 K.

On a Saturday afternoon I ventured to Blue Room. This is like a generic energy. The line up had all types though. Most of which were from a 2- a 6. 8. I was in the mood for a big tit but in hindsight should have taken the tall skinny one who was laughing, I could tell her personality was better. Went with a sort of thick natural tits on. Face was cute but could def loose some weight. She was half mechanical half into it. No kissing on the lips but half way thru a few peaks. I could tell when we started she tried to make me cum fast but I wasn't going to let it go that easy. She did jerk me and let me shoot like a 8 roper on her tits! She said don't get her face but accidents happen.

150 k + 50 k tip.

Went to another independent. Wow!

Celeste. She's about 25. I showed up wow what a knock out! Fake tits with the lipo and butt injections but it all went together with her and her personality. We start lots of kissing, making out. She goes straight for the Johnson. I start finger her and she lets me go all the way in. It was like vaginal vice grips. Whoa look out! Big hard errect brown nipples contrast with her white pale skin, there begging for attention. She loved it when it was bitten too. Grabs the rubber and its covered BJ but lots of ball licking like almost excessive. She gets into doggy and this big beautiful paisa ass is just jiggling just right. We go to all the positions. She was getting tired and I let her jerk me. Totally pro and did a little tounge action. I nut and hit her whole 36 dd chest and face. She cleans up, we talk. There's time left. She has such a fun cool great personality and gives me a massage the rest of the time. Telling her jokes in broken spanish she is really a great person. She even wants to give me some more head and fuck more. We do but I couldn't cum cause she and I were both too tired. We shower, I get dressed, instead of kicking me out right away we hang out in her penthouse. It has an amazing view from the roof. Some more making out, then I'm in the kitchen for water and her roomate comes home! I semi hide by the fridge and the roomate sees me. It's not a big deal. Her roomate goes to her room, then we just make out in the kitchen and I fingerbang her g spot till she cums while holding her face in my chest so she muffles the sound of he orgasim. I walk out right away slowly and don't turn back. She says "call me" in Spanish. Pimp shit. (Side note she calls me to hang out at this event on Saturday).

130 K.

So I'm doing well with independents and I decide to see this chick in Laurles. She gets to the door. She is 21 years old. Wow her face what a knock out! 9 in the face, a nice pair of + 2's and a nice round ass. Her stomach, she had a kid and it shows a little but nothing that her pretty face can't distract you from. She has a lot of tats on her and is sort of semi gothy but still colombian. She speaks English pretty good. The apartment isn't that amazing and the bright light was a bit harsh in the room. She starts kissing me, super passionate like we are lovers. Grabbing for my knish, I get her undressed, holy fuck! Smoking. We just kiss and make out for 10 min then she gets the rubber. Sucks me and plays with the huevos. Then she climbs on top. We start going. Then she's riding faster and faster and she cums. I go to change positions and I notice she is really wet. As she gets off she looks, and goes "OOH" turns out she bleed on me. She is super embarrassed and there is blood on my thigh and all over the condom and a bit on my balls. She goes over to the shower, grabs a towel and soap and cleans me off. She is soo embarrassed. She heads to the shower for like 10 min to get really clean. She comes back says we can start again. I didn't know what I wanted but her pretty face was just soo captivating. We're semi dressed and she starts to give me a massage. Speaking with her she is smarter then the job she has. We are having a vibe and I tell her the incident will make for a funny story. She's still embarrassed but then laughs and kisses me. She goes out of the room to get more condoms. We make out more then start again. I go to fuck her and check for blood the first couple of thrust. Nothing. So I'm we're both I to it. She loves getting choked and spanked so I do it at the same time (at the same damn time) I keep going the just as I'm about to cum I rip the rubber off and shoot it on her face and tits. She was awesome and stroked it and smiled. She laughs some more cause it was like a 9 roper and everywhere! We clean up, shower and make out some more. She gives me her real name and real number. I go out the door and she grabs me and does a DFK that last 10 seconds. We have been chatting ever since. She gave me her real name and real #, we text on whatsapp. She asks to want to see me free, I was super surprsed. I met near the mall of hers. We had lunch and wound up just making out. The next day I went over to her apartment and hung and boned for a couple hours. I did give her some $ though which she didn't ask for but I knew she wanted. I know the school she is in and work in a similar field. I gave her some tutor lessons and in turn she has been sleeping with me for no money. We are very honest and her good english makes it easy to communicate with. Anyway I think she is pretty close to a semi novia.

110 K.

Decided to try another casa, it's the one near Las Palmas but I forgot the name.

There was some guys a head of me and they got the best pick. I was patient and opped for this light carmel skin girl with a pretty young face and braces. Boy what a great choice though. She was 24, Her tits were a little floppy from having a kid but damn she was super passionate. At first it was just a massage. The room was sort of shitty cause it was in the basement but all the other rooms were being used. It was a nice room just small. So we go in, and then she starts looking at me. "Super linda" ahh hermosa. Then plants one on me like I was her boyfriend that she hasn't seen in a month! We get going, she gives me head with no condom without asking. She is attacking my dick like a champ. We get to boning. All positions. Despite her having a kid her pussy is super tight and she was dripping wetness (no lube) I couldn't take it and finish doggy. After she does more massaging and then even another suck! Perfect, I say listo and then we wrap it up. In the shower she was beig playful and was trying to suck on my balls. Super hot.

150 K.

Independent, angel. Wow ok so I get to this chicks place in Poblado. She was 26, The Apartment was a little hard to find and luckly my uber driver had a sister who lived in the same build! Small world. I get to her place, hmmm she had a little joan rivers little thing going on but hte body was super tight! Had like nice see implants but they felt a little weird, sort of like they were implants under the bone so you could feel it but it was deep inside if that makes sense. Her stomach and ass were super tight. I'll admit the surgery face took a bit of time to get used to, its not super bad but just noticeable. Anyway we get down to business. She looks at my eyes and the ususal paisa response and gets super into it. Kissing and kissing and kissing. I mean we must have kissed for 10 min straight before any clothes came off. We get all our clothes off, I look to the side of the bed and see 2 wand vibrators. She says "those are my toys. " ok cool this was a preview. I take off her clothes and she has a gorgeous tight beautiful pussy. I rub the clit and then get a finger inside. She is in heaven. She grabs for my dick and throws me on the bed. Out comes the rubber. I ask for sin cover but no, she is NOT doing that. I think ok. The head is actually pretty good. She then looks at me and then does this sexy cool wink fuck. She licks and sucks the balls then it's time to fuck. We start in doggy and she is tight and wet. I then turn her over, missionary. Mmm lots of kissing but then, she reaches for her toys. She has 2 wands. One battery, one plugs in. She goes for the plug in and puts it right on her clit. Wow, my dick is inside her but we aren't pumping as she is getting her self comfortabe with the wand on her dick. The vibrations feel soo good for both of us. We fuck inbetween her getting off. She keeps doing it over and over and eventually. Bam! She squirts!! Wow. A real life squirter. It was somewhere in between a gush and a stream. She keeps cumming and I feel the pulse. Again. Bam more squirting!! She is super into all of this. She says she has more so we go again. BAMM squirt city! We changes positions, she gets on top. I can see her paisa perfecta pussy as she grabs the wireless wand. It's less powerful but she is also running out of steam. She wants the leche and jerks me off onto her tits and it hits her chin. She laughs, we shower together. She starts showing me pics of her son and we kick it for another 45 min. Not a clock watcher and just really chill. She is so awesome that I see her the next day! It was a repeat of the service only better and this time I just finished in the condom. Only problem was the 2nd time she had to leave early so we couldn't hang. I thought it was BS for another client but she got dressed with me and left the apartment together with me.

130 K I had her 150 K but never got back change (bad on my part).

The hipster in me likes the Indies, I go to See Agatha. She was 21 years old. This was a mistake. I get to her apartment in Las Palams. She keeps me waiting almost 45 minutes. The elevator was out of order or something and I had to hoof it up 9 flights of stairs. I get to the door, she opens it. Not bad, I can't tell if th photos were real or not or just heavly photoshoped. I can tell the whole apartment is being used by differnet girls. As soon as I get to the room, she ask for the money. OK I tae care of her. She had on a whole lingeria get up. She takes it off and then once her stomach is reveal and large 6 and a half inch see section scare is revealed. She obviously had the kid within the last 6 months she the scar is still somewhat fresh. I try to look away but it's just ehhh. SHe only does small kisses. She has nice small implants which I like but the rest of her set is about as mechanical as jiffy lube. It's going thru the motions and I could tell the whole time she was not in the moment at all. She goes a covered BJ, its actually pretty good and smooth but she wants to fuck. Gets lube, hops on top. I can tell her whole mission is to make me cum as quick as possible. I sense that and I make sure I last. She was totally trying to get me to cum in 30 seconds. She was a little frustrated, we changed positions. She has her eyes wide open the whole time and keeps checking to make sure the condom is still on. She do a couple more positions. I finally nut in the rubber. After I shower and I straight up as her. How long have you been doing this? Are you new? She says yes 4 months now. I told her she didn't seem all there. She and I both knew this isn't the job for her. She agreed with him and I left. It's just what I love is finding someone who is in't this and she was totally not that type of person.

Had some dates with 4 non pro Paisas. All very different.

First one was from Cupid. I totally didn't remember what she looked like as I just text every single girl in my phone who's name I put Medellin. We agreed to meet. Holy shit! In person she is a smoke shop! She's 27 but looks 21.8. 5! And her personality was super chill. She's a hipster chick that's not really the traditional plastic girl but she still works out a lot. Her stomach was tight as fuck!! We had a real date which ment no hooking up the first time (that's the culture for regular girls here, it's ironic considering how many raging working girls there are roaming these streets) we did do lots of petting and got pretty wasted. Smoked a bit. I hung out with her again but this time it felt I dunno somehing was off. One thing that bothered me was after we had lunch. I go to the ATM and leave her be. I come back and there is this tall gringo who she is talking to. She says it's her friend I greet them. She says that her girlfriend met on Cupid and that's her BF. I was like hmm the only thing that bothered me was when we left he said "ok by baby" the baby shit set off red flags and ever since I have been thinking she is a pro. I haven't hit it and we only kissed once, I asked to see her during a lunch break and never get a response. I'm 90% sure she is a pro. I'm dying to find out, not because I want to catch her and be like "ahh hhhha" but more like "hey be honest before I just waste money on drinks an dinner with no play".

2nd one was a webcam girl I managed to meet from Myfreecams. First off getting a number off there is impressive, 2nd is getting one without tipping! I accomplished Both and it will prob never happen again! She's 20 years old. I want to fuck her friend who is popular in Mfc but Had turned me down soo many times. Her friend is new so Easy target. I met her at the mall, took her for mall food and she loved it. Lots of stares and glances. She is sort of gothy but sweet. She wouldn't kiss after but I could tell she wanted to. I planted the seed and said "I know paisa don't kiss on the first date" she said yes. So I said the 2nd date. I walked away. Text her where to meet me in 5 minutes. She comes we go into a corner. Hard core making out. I grab her plum ass hard!. It was too risky for a public BJ so I stuck my fingers in her mouth and in Spanish "you will taste this off my dick soon" I left after that. The Follow up visit is tonight and she been texting me all types of shit so I'll let you know how this one goes.

3rd.

I made friends with locas here and my friend has been fucking this cute paisa girl he met in Poblado. On a whimp I went out that night with him and I said "it's ususally the nights you don't plan on going out that are the best" Boy I couldn't be more right. We meet her and her friend at Eco bar in Poblado. They are there already half lit. This girl is fucking smoking hot! She has her hair tied in a tight slicked back pony tail, petite about 5 2 but with a bad ass attitude she's 28 but looks 21. She is one of those girls that can be tough but also sweet. She has a plump small ass with small tits to match. Her face is like looking into pure beauty. We imedelty click and my friend is helping translate. We hang out at another hipster bar and they go to the bathroom to do blow. I'm not really into drug chicks or drugs for that matter but I understand it's sort of her way of unwinding. They get back, and she chanllenges her friend to kiss in front of us. They have been doing this but then she uses it as a cue for her to kiss as well. She taughts me into kissing her and I go FULL in. WoW she is a fucking amazing kisser and doesn't hold back. She kept doing some paisa things, like backing off and then coming full circle. It's all part of the hard to get culture here. I'm cool with it. We get pretty drunk and are making out hard core in the club. She does not like any advancement towards the lower body and makes it clear with a firm "NOO" jajajaja. Some more making out and she wants to keep partying. My friend has work the next day so we have to leave. I knew it was best because there wasn't going to be any fucking that night if we got a room so I called it a night and paid for thier taxi home. We made plans the following week and even did the each day follow up. She assured me she was coming. I show up. Nothing. I'm not mad, this is just hte paisa way of dating. They are more flakey then Tony The tiger. I been trying to call but ahh it's like eventually it willl or won't happen. No big deal.

4th one.

100% wifey material. I met her thru instagram. We talked and facetime for a while. Finally met in person. HOLY FUCK! A 1-10 she is fucking 10000000. She's 22 She comes from money, has a passport / visa and is in med school. DOesn't drink or smoke and lives in dope building in Poblado with just her mom. Let me say, she is the full package of perfect. We have good chemistry but her school keeps her super busy. I thought it was bullshit but I saw her schedule and even visited her at her school once. SHe is very focused and a real good girl. We went out for sushi, and got really close to kissing the first night. I gave her a peck on her neck and she smiled then ran my fingers down her back. It's been difficult to see each other but I also think she has a novio on the side. Also there is conflict because I am a gringo and she doesn't' want people thinking she is a prepago. It's a tough stigma but I get it. I been having to back off but only to not seem too intrested. I got to play it cool if she really is a true pocahontas.

So the Photos I tried to upload them as best I could. Obviously the ones at the casa where hard but it goes as follows.

1 Laura.

2,3 Francesca.

4 Celeste.

5,6 Angel.

7 The first Date Non pro.

8 3rd date.

There ya go boys. I know I don't have many nudes Ill see what else is on my phone but enjoy and happy mongering!

BTW I fucked up not opening a citbank account. My bank is hitting me for $5 every time I withdrawl money. SO far I'm up $130 in fees!! Totally sucks I'm going to see if I can fight it maybe say I'm going to go to another bank if they don' t take it off. We'll see.

Get a Citibank account!

Also, you could get a capital one 360 check debit card [URL]https://home.capitalone360.com/lp-360checking?utm_source=1575378&utm_medium=0&utm_content=113657062&utm_campaign=8175436[/URL] and it has tons of free / no fee ATM in USA usually inside MCDs, Ride Aid pharmacies, other places. This card is great to use oversea. I have used it in the DR, Medellin, Carta, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta and no fees were charged each time I withdrew money from any bank / ATM there. You can open it easily online and link it to your regular bank to make future deposits or get direct deposit if you want it as your regular bank. This is the only card I use oversea cause not a single fee is taken by the bank.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1694475]BTW I fucked up not opening a citbank account. My bank is hitting me for $5 every time I withdrawl money. SO far I'm up $130 in fees!! Totally sucks I'm going to see if I can fight it maybe say I'm going to go to another bank if they don' t take it off. We'll see.

Get a Citibank account![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1694386]Very good, detailed report my man. But I do have to call you out for one BIG rookie mistake:

Why did you tip the chica and the Mamasan 20 k? Especially given that the chica gave you a covered blowjob and a "lackluster" massage?

And what did the Mamasan do other than her job? I could see if she gave you some head on the way out the door.

I know it's your money, but don't bring your Brazil habits to Medellin. From what I understand, everyone at 4 x4 in Rio, from the cleaning ladies to the lady that cashes you out before you leave, all have their hands out asking for tips. I don't want to go to Energy and see that the Mamasan is now asking for tips even though she hasn't done a damn thing. For 20 k, she'd better be dropping those panties too!

To put things somewhat in perspective for you: I can have a chica come to my apartment for unrushed service, blow job sin condon, and two pops for 150K and 20K for her taxi to and from my apartment (10K each way). All this without every having to leave my place. And I don't give any propinas: I pay exactly what we negotiated.[/QUOTE]Because I wanted to, homeboy. Are you serious? What's 20 K? Ummm like $7.50? Hold on to that then. Mamasan looked out and did more than she had to with some other things. She might suck me next run, if I ask. Give a fuck about a massage, like I said. And I don't stress BBBJ. Keep your hand in your pocket not mine. Has nothing to do with Brazil. I tip cause I had good service. Chics that cash out at 4 x 4 has never asked for tips. And yep I tip the old lady in the locker room.

That's no perspective for me. That broad can be a dog of the street so your detailed account falls flat. I have a chic that's been coming coming thru just off some clearance Vicki Secret I brought down which cost me about $20. Keeping thinking short term, half pint. I'm into long term investment here.

You do you and I will do your chicas.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1694475]BTW I fucked up not opening a citbank account. My bank is hitting me for $5 every time I withdrawl money. SO far I'm up $130 in fees!! Totally sucks I'm going to see if I can fight it maybe say I'm going to go to another bank if they don' t take it off. We'll see.

Get a Citibank account![/QUOTE]Just open a Capitalone 360 online checking account. No fees for anything.

[QUOTE=MrFurley;1694500]Because I wanted to, homeboy. Are you serious? What's 20 K? Ummm like $7.50? Hold on to that then. Mamasan looked out and did more than she had to with some other things. She might suck me next run, if I ask. Give a fuck about a massage, like I said. And I don't stress BBBJ. Keep your hand in your pocket not mine. Has nothing to do with Brazil. I tip cause I had good service. Chics that cash out at 4 x 4 has never asked for tips. And yep I tip the old lady in the locker room.

That's no perspective for me. That broad can be a dog of the street so your detailed account falls flat. I have a chic that's been coming coming thru just off some clearance Vicki Secret I brought down which cost me about $20. Keeping thinking short term, half pint. I'm into long term investment here.

You do you and I will do your chicas.[/QUOTE]You took the words right out of my mouth! Nice come back! 20 k is what? $ 8.00. LMAO.

Some guys just don't understand the concept of tipping, that's its just not for exceptional service, but for future consideration and VIP service the next time around, whether its a 5 star restaurant, hotel, strip joint or casa. Its surprising what kind of special treatment one can get in exchange for planting seeds with a good tip. Or just an $ 8.00 tip.

[QUOTE=MrFurley;1694500]I'm into long term investment here..[/QUOTE]Many countries, including Colombia, do not have a tradition, therefore a concept, of tips. They will not think that they should be nice to you BECAUSE OF the tips you give. Please imagine a foreign student in an American university willingly paying extra amount when he pays tuition because he is happy about the school. It would be similar and somehow incomprehensible to locals. At worst, excessive tipping could appear as Naivety and/or lack of confidence.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1694551]Many countries, including Colombia, do not have a tradion, therefore a concept, of tips. [b]They will not think that they should be nice to you BECAUSE OF the tips you give.[/b] Please imagine a foreign student in an American university willingly paying extra amount when he pays tuition because he is happy about the school. It would be similar and somehow incomprehensible to locals. At worst, excessive tipping could appear as Naivety and/or lack of confidence.[/QUOTE]Excellent response Matt, but judging from his response to my post, all of what you said will fall on def ears. The concept of "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" is lost on him. Can't expect to reason with someone who has such a mindset.

I still can't get over the fact that he is trying to justify giving a broad a tip for a covered blow job and a wack ass massage. It's like saying "yeah, you suck at your job, but good job anyway. I'm into long term investment here."

He'd love San Jose, Costa Rica, me thinks.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1694465]I don't tell people what to do, whether to tip or not, but the mamasan at Energy is one of the owners and thus I would never in that case.[/QUOTE]I hear you James. I am off it. I just had to call it out so that any other newbies reading our forum become aware of the fact that tipping is not necessary nor is it expected in Medellin, especially for bad service. It's not going to encourage the chica to perform any better the next time around, especially if she knows she is going to be rewarded with a tip regardless.

Still don't get the tipping the Mamasan part. Maybe it's a Thailand thing?

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1694538]You took the words right out of my mouth! Nice come back! 20 k is what? $ 8.00. LMAO.

Some guys just don't understand the concept of tipping, that's its just not for exceptional service, but for future consideration and VIP service the next time around, whether its a 5 star restaurant, hotel, strip joint or casa. Its surprising what kind of special treatment one can get in exchange for planting seeds with a good tip. Or just an $ 8.00 tip.[/QUOTE]The problem here is you obombalanders think in only $usd. Only an $8. 00 tip is not much if you were tipping a mamasan at the mustang ranch in Nevada. Minimum wage here is 30 k a day, about $12. Usd, so your tip is 70% of a days wages here. So you really screw things up for the local guys here when mamasans start to think everybody should give me 20 k. Medellin is not Nana and Soi Cowboy in Bangkok where all the punters are foreigners, thais are not allowed to go into the oilies and soapies, massage places with all the extras in the whole district around Sukumvit. So the big tippers, Japanese and Koreans are not screwing things up for the locals like the big tippers in MDE. That area is a big eye opener for americans when the chicas ditch the gringos when the J and K's enter the go-go bars. Gringos are definitely 3rd class persons in BKK.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1694551] At worst, excessive tipping could appear as Naivety and/or lack of confidence.[/QUOTE]Exactly, tipping is a sign of weakness in the eyes of Colombians. One may think that they are getting better service in the future by tipping when in fact you will get better service just by patronizing the establishment or woman a second time, no tip needed.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1694849]Exactly, tipping is a sign of weakness in the eyes of Colombians. One may think that they are getting better service in the future by tipping when in fact you will get better service just by patronizing the establishment or woman a second time, no tip needed.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you got that from. I've been traveling to Colombia for 20 years now, and close to 100 trips. Tipping has gotten me favors many times, especially in the 4-5 star hotels that I always frequent. And everyone wonders why they can't get chicas into their hotels. LMAO.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1694827]The problem here is you obombalanders think in only $usd. Only an $8. 00 tip is not much if you were tipping a mamasan at the mustang ranch in Nevada. Minimum wage here is 30 k a day, about $12. Usd, so your tip is 70% of a days wages here. So you really screw things up for the local guys here when mamasans start to think everybody should give me 20 k. Medellin is not Nana and Soi Cowboy in Bangkok where all the punters are foreigners, thais are not allowed to go into the oilies and soapies, massage places with all the extras in the whole district around Sukumvit. So the big tippers, Japanese and Koreans are not screwing things up for the locals like the big tippers in MDE. That area is a big eye opener for americans when the chicas ditch the gringos when the J and K's enter the go-go bars. Gringos are definitely 3rd class persons in BKK.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but with all due respect, that sounds like your problem. I will continue to tip while in Colombia and because of it, I will continue to get preferential treatment, and will be looked upon favorably.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1694551]Many countries, including Colombia, do not have a tradion, therefore a concept, of tips. They will not think that they should be nice to you BECAUSE OF the tips you give. Please imagine a foreign student in an American university willingly paying extra amount when he pays tuition because he is happy about the school. It would be similar and somehow incomprehensible to locals. At worst, excessive tipping could appear as Naivety and/or lack of confidence.[/QUOTE]In addition, in countries such as Japan it is considered an insult. It is telling a person that you do not believe they are earning enough money to live.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1694581]Still don't get the tipping the Mamasan part. Maybe it's a Thailand thing?[/QUOTE]Don't put that mess on us out here. As a matter of fact the other night I spotted a new bar by my crib and there was only one girl working there. I asked the mamasan / owner how much for the girl for all night. She said $45. I said $40 and you have a deal. She let the girl come with me. I told her next time I would be fucking her (the mamasan) for $30. So you can't accuse that Tom Foolery of coming from out this way. Least not by way of me.

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1694920]I will continue to tip while in Colombia and because of it, [b]I will continue to get preferential treatment, and will be looked upon favorably[/b].[/QUOTE]In your HEAD, LMAO!

Bitches like tips but they prefer balls deep.

P.S. I posted a great review and suddenly this forum turned into a circle jerk about tipping. Let's get back to business people!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1694950]In your HEAD, LMAO![/QUOTE]Pretty hard to say that without knowing me in person. But I would be more than happy to invite you out to a few spots of mine in Medellin the next time I'm in town, and we'll see. The check and the tip is on me. LOL. Just inbox me with your info.

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday!

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1694920]Sorry, but with all due respect, that sounds like your problem. I will continue to tip while in Colombia and because of it, I will continue to get preferential treatment, and will be looked upon favorably.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1694849]Exactly, tipping is a sign of weakness in the eyes of Colombians. One may think that they are getting better service in the future by tipping when in fact you will get better service just by patronizing the establishment or woman a second time, no tip needed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1694551]Many countries, including Colombia, do not have a tradion, therefore a concept, of tips. They will not think that they should be nice to you BECAUSE OF the tips you give. At worst, excessive tipping could appear as Naivety and/or lack of confidence.[/QUOTE]The real problem is that some people don't know how to handle themselves in Colombia or anywhere else. What is said about a first impression lasting forever is true. Your dress, knowledge of the language, customs and characteristics of the folks you are around and how you react in business transactions are all part of that impression. I always tip service providers. On a few occasions the tip is not monetary. I'll leave a direct note that the service was not satisfactory and thus no propina; that's how life works. A little loose change and an voiced appreciation for their service or assistance is always beneficial. We all want to be appreciated. I agree that "excessive" tipping is an indication of lack of confidence and is actually counter-productive. No one enjoys being around someone that vulgarly exhibits wealth.

It's really a simple application of basic psychology. And, it's productive. Besides, it is good karma and exhibits.

Good Energy!

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1695032]Bitches like tips but they prefer balls deep.

P.S. I posted a great review and suddenly this forum turned into a circle jerk about tipping. Let's get back to business people![/QUOTE]What's wrong with this forum. Before all the posts where all about viagra and cialis. Then a new guy post an excellent trip report and all of the sudden guys just want to write about the way he handles the tipping tipping and other nonsense Who cares! Guys go back to writing trip reports.

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1694910]Not sure where you got that from. I've been traveling to Colombia for 20 years now, and close to 100 trips. Tipping has gotten me favors many times, especially in the 4-5 star hotels that I always frequent. And everyone wonders why they can't get chicas into their hotels. LMAO.[/QUOTE]I don't have to get chicas into a hotel, I take them to my home here. Tipping is giving money to someone for good service, getting favors for giving money to someone is not tipping, it's giving a bribe, anyone can bribe their way into getting a chica into a hotel.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1695070]The real problem is that some people don't know how to handle themselves in Colombia or anywhere else. What is said about a first impression lasting forever is true. Your dress, knowledge of the language, customs and characteristics of the folks you are around and how you react in business transactions are all part of that impression. I always tip service providers. On a few occasions the tip is not monetary. I'll leave a direct note that the service was not satisfactory and thus no propina; that's how life works. A little loose change and an voiced appreciation for their service or assistance is always beneficial. We all want to be appreciated. I agree that "excessive" tipping is an indication of lack of confidence and is actually counter-productive. No one enjoys being around someone that vulgarly exhibits wealth.

It's really a simple application of basic psychology. And, it's productive. Besides, it is good karma and exhibits.

Good Energy![/QUOTE]Never heard of such a thing that tipping shows "a lack of confidence". Especially an $ 8. 00 tip. In my 20 years of traveling to Colombia and speaking with literally hundreds and hundreds of women, they constantly bring up the fact that they think gringos are "tacaños" the Spanish word used in Colombia which means "cheap stake" or "stingy". There is even a hand signal that Colombians use to describe someone who is tacaño, that is, raising up the right hand with the arm forming a right angle and tapping the elbow twice with the left hand. This is the "tacaño" sign. So please stop this nonsense that being cheap and not tipping is a part of the Colombian culture. Every nice restaurant in Colombia (and some not so nice restaurants) automatically charge a "service charge" which is the TIP. Some even list it as PROPINA on the receipt. To further back this up, the word propina is very very common in the Spanish vocabulary in Colombia. If propinas weren't common this word would not even be part of the every day vocabulary of Colombians. Of course if you guys are locking yourself up in your apartments or your room at The Mansion, and eating at Kokoriko or Burger king, and have limited Spanish skills, unable to hold an intelligent conversation with the girls or local, you will NEVER get it.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1695107]I don't have to get chicas into a hotel, I take them to my home here. Tipping is giving money to someone for good service, getting favors for giving money to someone is not tipping, it's giving a bribe, anyone can bribe their way into getting a chica into a hotel.[/QUOTE]Tipping is giving money for good service and the expectation of getting good service in the future and preferential treatment. What did you do for a living in the States if I might ask, and what kind of lifestyle did you live?

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1695109]In my 20 years of traveling to Colombia and speaking with literally hundreds and hundreds of women, they constantly bring up the fact that they think gringos are "tacaos" the Spanish word used in Colombia which means "cheap stake" or "stingy".[/QUOTE]In other words they have learned to guilt trip you in order to get deeper into your pockets? Whenever someone in Latin America tries that tacano shit on me then I say well you fucking pay for it then. That usually shuts them up real quick. They will only call you tacano if you are not shelling out money for something that will give them more benefit. If there is nothing in it for them then they could care less. Many times when I meet chicks I will introduce myself as Senor Tacano. That lets them know immediately that I will not fall for the banana in the tailpipe.[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1695109]Of course if you guys are locking yourself up in your apartments or your room at The Mansion, and eating at Kokoriko or Burger king, and have limited Spanish skills, unable to hold an intelligent conversation with the girls or local, you will NEVER get it.[/QUOTE]I speak English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Thai, but evidently we are "GETTING" two different things. But hey, when in doubt either look around and see what everyone else is doing or ask a local that you trust. Usually the desk clerk at the hotel is a good source for cultural information if you do not know anyone. And like you said, half the time (at restaurants) the service charge is already included in the bill. If a person is a tipper and doesn't know any better then they are subject to pay it twice.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1695079]What's wrong with this forum. Before all the posts where all about viagra and cialis. Then a new guy post an excellent trip report and all of the sudden guys just want to write about the way he handles the tipping tipping and other nonsense Who cares! Guys go back to writing trip reports.[/QUOTE]PREACH! WTF HAPPENED! I really took my time documenting, getting photos, remembering names and prices. Ugh.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1695079]What's wrong with this forum. Before all the posts where all about viagra and cialis. Then a new guy post an excellent trip report and all of the sudden guys just want to write about the way he handles the tipping tipping and other nonsense Who cares! Guys go back to writing trip reports.[/QUOTE]Man, all of your posts are about your crying about one thing or another like a little byatch on her menstrual cycle. "Write me more damn trip reports. Waah, waah". Stop trying to be a fucking forum cop. This forum is about information AND debate, be it dick pills, tipping, etc.

You don't like what I have to say? Feel free to put me on your ignor list then. I've been here since 2007. Not going anywhere.

Hell, just scrolling through your post history, the last few pages are of you saying a whole bunch of shit, and not ONE damn trip report!

How about your take your own advice?

[QUOTE=NinoBravo;1695036]Pretty hard to say that without knowing me in person. But I would be more than happy to invite you out to a few spots of mine in Medellin the next time I'm in town, and we'll see. The check and the tip is on me. LOL. Just inbox me with your info.

Enjoy the rest of your Sunday![/QUOTE]I appreciate the invite, but you sound to be on the "dar papaya" side of things. I'm not trying to end up a target. I've already got enough to worry about while there.

And I agree with Mr E. That "tacano" bullshit is the equivalent of an American Woman calling you a "cheap date" because you didn't let her maraud your wallet for the night. You're living in fantasy land if you think that tossing around money like it's going out of style somehow earns you respect.

You go to a casa and pay 30k and give the Chica a 20k tip. A Colombiano comes behind you, pays 30k and leaves. He still got the exact same service as you did without spending 50k. It's not like the pussy somehow magically felt different at 50k than it did at 30k.

This is P4P. Going above and beyond in terms of payment is not going to earn you any additional points. I've had chicas ask me to bring them handbags, Coco Chanel, iPhones, human hair (extensions), you name it. I've ignored all of their requests and they still come over when I am in town and call them over.

A weaker guy would think "man, if I don't bring her this stuff, she is not going to want to see me (read "she is not going to let me pay her money to fuck her")". Whereas my thinking is that she's already convinced enough gringo bobos to do her bidding. If not, she can take the pesos I give her for sex and buy that shit herself.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1695032]Bitches lie tips but they prefer balls deep.

P.S. I posted a great review and suddenly this forum turned into a circle jerk about tipping. Let's get back to business people![/QUOTE]Enjoyed your trip report amigo, thanks.

Very detailed info and play by play of your endeavors.

Like a lot of guys who travel frequently, and have been for years, I don't post any more of play by play encounters with women.

Though I did enjoy reading thru yours, thanks again.

I do enjoy the banter at times on the forum, including the "tipping" debate.

I'm with Nino Bravo on the tipping issue.

It's really just common sense and I've used even cursory, small tips to show appreciation and gain favor.

Absolutely works like a charm.

No need to be a bobo and foolishly over tip as the cost / benefit doesn't really increase much, if at all.

To say that tipping in Colombia is looked down upon and discouraged is untrue, IMO.

I've used tipping all over central and south america for years.

That along kind words has gotten me far.

Have fun guys!

Okay you win. Keep writing about Cialis, Viagra, tipping, and other of your great debates. I thought the site was about helping others find women available for sex. Now I learn is about debating issues. My next trip report is coming one I get there in the summer or earlier.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1695288]Man, all of your posts are about your crying about one thing or another like a little byatch on her menstrual cycle. "Write me more damn trip reports. Waah, waah". Stop trying to be a fucking forum cop. This forum is about information AND debate, be it dick pills, tipping, etc.

You don't like what I have to say? Feel free to put me on your ignor list then. I've been here since 2007. Not going anywhere.

Hell, just scrolling through your post history, the last few pages are of you saying a whole bunch of shit, and not ONE damn trip report!

How about your take your own advice?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1695292]I appreciate the invite, but you sound to be on the "dar papaya" side of things. I'm not trying to end up a target. I've already got enough to worry about while there. .[/QUOTE]I didn't expect you to accept my invite. And me ending up a target? Well, with 20 years and 100 trips under my belt, and still doing just fine. No hard feelings, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Still would like to meet you, but I already have what I believe to be a pretty accurate image of what you might look like in my head.

Have a great day!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1695148]In other words they have learned to guilt trip you in order to get deeper into your pockets? Whenever someone in Latin America tries that tacano shit on me then I say well you fucking pay for it then. That usually shuts them up real quick. They will only call you tacano if you are not shelling out money for something that will give them more benefit. If there is nothing in it for them then they could care less. Many times when I meet chicks I will introduce myself as Senor Tacano. That lets them know immediately that I will not fall for the banana in the tailpipe.I speak English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Thai, but evidently we are "GETTING" two different things. But hey, when in doubt either look around and see what everyone else is doing or ask a local that you trust. Usually the desk clerk at the hotel is a good source for cultural information if you do not know anyone. And like you said, half the time (at restaurants) the service charge is already included in the bill. If a person is a tipper and doesn't know any better then they are subject to pay it twice.[/QUOTE]You totally misunderstood my analogy regarding Tacaño and tipping.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1694485]Also, you could get a capital one 360 check debit card [URL]https://home.capitalone360.com/lp-360checking?utm_source=1575378&utm_medium=0&utm_content=113657062&utm_campaign=8175436[/URL] and it has tons of free / no fee ATM in USA usually inside MCDs, Ride Aid pharmacies, other places. This card is great to use oversea. I have used it in the DR, Medellin, Carta, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta and no fees were charged each time I withdrew money from any bank / ATM there. You can open it easily online and link it to your regular bank to make future deposits or get direct deposit if you want it as your regular bank. This is the only card I use oversea cause not a single fee is taken by the bank.[/QUOTE]I just clicked on the link you provided and I see this:

Foreign Transaction. When using your Card (s) for transactions made in foreign currency or for what MasterCard® classifies as a cross-border transaction, a charge may be applied by MasterCard® (if it's in a foreign currency, this will be based on the amount after it's converted to USA Dollars by MasterCard®). Please remember to notify us if you are travelling overseas Opens a new window.

Funny thing about tipping is that the beneficial effect may be temporary. While I tip generously in restaurants in the US, it only takes about 5 minutes to cut my hair and I rarely tip hairstylists. A couple of years ago, a lady from Mexico was cutting my hair. I experimented with tipping $6 on a $14 haircut. Service was great for two cuts and then it got far worse than before I tipped. Learned my lesson, switched hairstylists and went back to tipping at Christmas and special occasions.

[QUOTE=EstebanH;1695305]I just clicked on the link you provided and I see this:

Foreign Transaction. When using your Card (s) for transactions made in foreign currency or for what MasterCard classifies as a cross-border transaction, a charge may be applied by MasterCard (if it's in a foreign currency, this will be based on the amount after it's converted to USA Dollars by MasterCard). Please remember to notify us if you are travelling overseas Opens a new window.[/QUOTE]I called Capital One 360 each time I left and was given confusing feedback about fees, no charges or it depends were you use it. I was advises to use ATMs with the all point logo. I never found that logo in any DR or Colombia ATM so I used it anyway. Upon checking my statements, I never saw a Capital One 360 bank charge and I use more than 10 different ATMs.

Really simple for me. If it makes you happy to tip than tip. If it makes you unhappy to tip then don't tip.

Why worry what the other guy does?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1695288]Man, all of your posts are about your crying about one thing or another like a little byatch on her menstrual cycle. "Write me more damn trip reports. Waah, waah". Stop trying to be a fucking forum cop?[/QUOTE]SavePro321, I must acknowledge your comedian skills are pretty good. I couldn't stop laughing just picturing myself as a crying baby waah waah wearing an ISG police uniform and a pistol or baton in my hands.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1695358]Really simple for me. If it makes you happy to tip than tip. If it makes you unhappy to tip then don't tip.

Why worry what the other guy does?[/QUOTE]Exactly! Not sure how someone tipping is going to "ruin" it for everyone else, or is giving "papaya". Of course I've never paid 30 k for a chica to have sex with me, so I really can't relate. But to each his own. SavePro loves 30 k chicas and I would have nothing to do with them. Doesn't make either of us right or wrong, or good or bad.

So, all this because you don't want people tipping in MDE?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1695288]Man, all of your posts are about your crying about one thing or another like a little byatch on her menstrual cycle.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1695288] "Write me more damn trip reports. Waah, waah". Stop trying to be a fucking forum cop. This forum is about information AND debate, be it dick pills, tipping, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1695288]You don't like what I have to say? Feel free to put me on your ignor list then. I've been here since 2007. Not going anywhere. [/QUOTE]

Allpoint owns a bunch of ATMs. The trick is to just use 7 Eleven or CVS pharmacy. All of them are Allpoint. Save you from having to go to their website and do a search.

[QUOTE=Rjsss212;1695371]So, all this because you don't want people tipping in MDE?[/QUOTE]That was an entirely different observation from the tipping issue and I fully agree with Save, Cerebro's incessant whining about the thread being off topic is far more annoying than talks about Viagra or tipping. Then he follows with a useless report on the CapitalOne card, after berating five or six guys that were having a discussion they and many others found interesting.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1695450]Ah, my stalker Rj-asss all the way from the Opinions > American Women forum. There's just no getting away from you, is there?

Not interested bro, just so we put that out there. ThatGuy865 might be more to your likening since the both of you seem to share the same Beta Male traits.

Carry on![/QUOTE]What I don't understand is if he and ThatGuy are so happy with the state of affairs with American Women, why are they on Monger boards giving their opinions.

Seems everyone else here are trying to escape the Western way of doing things.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1695354]I called Capital One 360 each time I left and was given confusing feedback about fees, no charges or it depends were you use it. I was advises to use ATMs with the all point logo. I never found that logo in any DR or Colombia ATM so I used it anyway. Upon checking my statements, I never saw a Capital One 360 bank charge and I use more than 10 different ATMs.[/QUOTE]I know for certain that the Charles Schwab card has no international fees whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1695361]SavePro321, I must acknowledge your comedian skills are pretty good. I couldn't stop laughing just picturing myself as a crying baby waah waah wearing an ISG police uniform and a pistol or baton in my hands.[/QUOTE]Well at least you laughed!

No need to take everything so serious. This forum is about information sharing. I could just as well start crying about your Capital One 360/ ATM fees posts, but it's not that serious. Someone will no doubt find the info useful. The same way some people found the Viagra / Cialis posts useful. I myself plan to look into the post EstebanH made about the ED injection shot. I'm a long way from needed ED Meds, but if it gives you a boner like an 18 yr old as he said, then who could pass up that info? It IS directly related to fucking, after all!

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1694468]130 k + 100 K tip (Over tipped fucked up cause I was fresh off the plane and big head had all the blood).

First stop went to Energy. It was late Saturday and there was only 2 girls working. I chose Francine. She's 26 5 3 with bolt ONS and tight lipo abs. Had to tip Extra for BBJ and kisses but worth it. Good massage and super tight vag. I was soo egar when she hopped on I was a 2 pump chump. I laughed with joy and she totally got it. I think I over tipped that night but I was fresh off the plane and didn't care. I hadn't boned in weeks!

120 K.

Next up went went an independents Casa. Laura. She's 27, Body and pics were real. She just got her ass done as well. Lots of kissing, passionate. Cover BJ but it was fine. She gave me the Reds beer stuff and I relaxed. She was Super into it, muy GFE. She was a 9 but the face was about a 7. 5. She did the strip tease, and was just in the moment. Her pussy is soo fucking pretty! Like one of those innie pussys where you can barely see any labia. She gets on top and keeps looking at the mirrors (vanity). Covered BJ. Lots of spitting and ball sucking. She gets on top first, sooooo tight! Fuck she was riding like a super pro. We switch it up, Did the slow passionate deep pounding as well as the fast hard doggy. I wasn't allowed to slap her ass though because she just had it done. What was weird though was when I Was pounding her hard she somehow slapped mine! I thought she wanted me to stop but she just liked it really deep an rough. We made out while she jerked me to completion on her man made perky tits. Her tits weren't cartoon just the right amount of silicone. She was also very clean and both hygentic. We showered and the thing that was cartoon was her huge fat injected ass!

300 K.

Ordered some take out. Francesca. She's about 23. She showed up on time. WOW! Her looks! She is a fucking knock out 10. She was wearing this all white draped dolly dress. It had so many holes but it stopped at the stomach and showed how flat and toned it really was. She was about 5 9 115 lb with no heels on. Skinny with Bolt ONS but done in proportion. Slamming tight ass. About 3/4 inch of thigh gap. She caught me off guard though when she got to my apartment she tells me how some working girl got murdered in my building by a crazy venizeulain dude and thrown off the balcony! Then she asks if I'm single. Weird. I am but that's odd. She tells me she has a BF yada yada. I dunno. We have a drink. She does this weird thing were when she takes a drink she blows up her cheeks like a blowfish and holds the drink for 9 seconds before swallowing. She did this with 2 cans of red so it took a minute just to get to the biz. (No clock watching) She gets close to me, staring at my eyes like a lover, long and deep with no words said. 15 seconds no talking felt like forever. She would not kiss on the lips so, so much for that Romance. She kisses me everywhere else. She gets topless, holy fuck her body is. A sculpture. After walking around naked and letting me film it. (Which BTW she asked me to delete but I bait & switched my phone and showed her a different phone so I got to keep all the pics!) got her in the bed, peeled off her undies with her small hip bone pertruding. I had to munch that amazing tight box. She has a beautiful pussy, the type that makes the front page of reddit. Performance wise She was half into it half not. I did all the techniques but I could tell her mind wasn't there. She did a covered BJ even after I said I'd tip her. Nope cover only! Her performance was semi mechanical. Did all positions. When I was fucking her I pulled off the rubber and she let me finish on her stomach and tits and jerked it to completion all over her. After she showered she stayed longer (almost 2 1/2 hours instead of 90 min) enjoying all the music I was showing her and company. She left and I sent her on her way.

130 K + 50 K tip.

Went back to energy late Tuesday night This time. Amazing line up. It was between two and I chose Angela. She was only 19 years old!! An all natural spinner. Small tits and ass. Holy Fuck was she amazing!! So much chemistry. Could take a dick hard and gave a great massage. I remember nailing her doggy and I couldn't take it and had to pop in the rubber. She was dope. I'll definitely see her again with one of her friends. No kissing on the lips, though and it was covered BBJ which I didn't care about cause she was doing everything right.

110 K.

On a Saturday afternoon I ventured to Blue Room. This is like a generic energy. The line up had all types though. Most of which were from a 2- a 6. 8. I was in the mood for a big tit but in hindsight should have taken the tall skinny one who was laughing, I could tell her personality was better. Went with a sort of thick natural tits on. Face was cute but could def loose some weight. She was half mechanical half into it. No kissing on the lips but half way thru a few peaks. I could tell when we started she tried to make me cum fast but I wasn't going to let it go that easy. She did jerk me and let me shoot like a 8 roper on her tits! She said don't get her face but accidents happen.

150 k + 50 k tip.

Went to another independent. Wow!

Celeste. She's about 25. I showed up wow what a knock out! Fake tits with the lipo and butt injections but it all went together with her and her personality. We start lots of kissing, making out. She goes straight for the Johnson. I start finger her and she lets me go all the way in. It was like vaginal vice grips. Whoa look out! Big hard errect brown nipples contrast with her white pale skin, there begging for attention. She loved it when it was bitten too. Grabs the rubber and its covered BJ but lots of ball licking like almost excessive. She gets into doggy and this big beautiful paisa ass is just jiggling just right. We go to all the positions. She was getting tired and I let her jerk me. Totally pro and did a little tounge action. I nut and hit her whole 36 dd chest and face. She cleans up, we talk. There's time left. She has such a fun cool great personality and gives me a massage the rest of the time. Telling her jokes in broken spanish she is really a great person. She even wants to give me some more head and fuck more. We do but I couldn't cum cause she and I were both too tired. We shower, I get dressed, instead of kicking me out right away we hang out in her penthouse. It has an amazing view from the roof. Some more making out, then I'm in the kitchen for water and her roomate comes home! I semi hide by the fridge and the roomate sees me. It's not a big deal. Her roomate goes to her room, then we just make out in the kitchen and I fingerbang her g spot till she cums while holding her face in my chest so she muffles the sound of he orgasim. I walk out right away slowly and don't turn back. She says "call me" in Spanish. Pimp shit. (Side note she calls me to hang out at this event on Saturday).

130 K.

So I'm doing well with independents and I decide to see this chick in Laurles. She gets to the door. She is 21 years old. Wow her face what a knock out! 9 in the face, a nice pair of + 2's and a nice round ass. Her stomach, she had a kid and it shows a little but nothing that her pretty face can't distract you from. She has a lot of tats on her and is sort of semi gothy but still colombian. She speaks English pretty good. The apartment isn't that amazing and the bright light was a bit harsh in the room. She starts kissing me, super passionate like we are lovers. Grabbing for my knish, I get her undressed, holy fuck! Smoking. We just kiss and make out for 10 min then she gets the rubber. Sucks me and plays with the huevos. Then she climbs on top. We start going. Then she's riding faster and faster and she cums. I go to change positions and I notice she is really wet. As she gets off she looks, and goes "OOH" turns out she bleed on me. She is super embarrassed and there is blood on my thigh and all over the condom and a bit on my balls. She goes over to the shower, grabs a towel and soap and cleans me off. She is soo embarrassed. She heads to the shower for like 10 min to get really clean. She comes back says we can start again. I didn't know what I wanted but her pretty face was just soo captivating. We're semi dressed and she starts to give me a massage. Speaking with her she is smarter then the job she has. We are having a vibe and I tell her the incident will make for a funny story. She's still embarrassed but then laughs and kisses me. She goes out of the room to get more condoms. We make out more then start again. I go to fuck her and check for blood the first couple of thrust. Nothing. So I'm we're both I to it. She loves getting choked and spanked so I do it at the same time (at the same damn time) I keep going the just as I'm about to cum I rip the rubber off and shoot it on her face and tits. She was awesome and stroked it and smiled. She laughs some more cause it was like a 9 roper and everywhere! We clean up, shower and make out some more. She gives me her real name and real number. I go out the door and she grabs me and does a DFK that last 10 seconds. We have been chatting ever since. She gave me her real name and real #, we text on whatsapp. She asks to want to see me free, I was super surprsed. I met near the mall of hers. We had lunch and wound up just making out. The next day I went over to her apartment and hung and boned for a couple hours. I did give her some $ though which she didn't ask for but I knew she wanted. I know the school she is in and work in a similar field. I gave her some tutor lessons and in turn she has been sleeping with me for no money. We are very honest and her good english makes it easy to communicate with. Anyway I think she is pretty close to a semi novia.

110 K.

Decided to try another casa, it's the one near Las Palmas but I forgot the name.

There was some guys a head of me and they got the best pick. I was patient and opped for this light carmel skin girl with a pretty young face and braces. Boy what a great choice though. She was 24, Her tits were a little floppy from having a kid but damn she was super passionate. At first it was just a massage. The room was sort of shitty cause it was in the basement but all the other rooms were being used. It was a nice room just small. So we go in, and then she starts looking at me. "Super linda" ahh hermosa. Then plants one on me like I was her boyfriend that she hasn't seen in a month! We get going, she gives me head with no condom without asking. She is attacking my dick like a champ. We get to boning. All positions. Despite her having a kid her pussy is super tight and she was dripping wetness (no lube) I couldn't take it and finish doggy. After she does more massaging and then even another suck! Perfect, I say listo and then we wrap it up. In the shower she was beig playful and was trying to suck on my balls. Super hot.

150 K.

Independent, angel. Wow ok so I get to this chicks place in Poblado. She was 26, The Apartment was a little hard to find and luckly my uber driver had a sister who lived in the same build! Small world. I get to her place, hmmm she had a little joan rivers little thing going on but hte body was super tight! Had like nice see implants but they felt a little weird, sort of like they were implants under the bone so you could feel it but it was deep inside if that makes sense. Her stomach and ass were super tight. I'll admit the surgery face took a bit of time to get used to, its not super bad but just noticeable. Anyway we get down to business. She looks at my eyes and the ususal paisa response and gets super into it. Kissing and kissing and kissing. I mean we must have kissed for 10 min straight before any clothes came off. We get all our clothes off, I look to the side of the bed and see 2 wand vibrators. She says "those are my toys. " ok cool this was a preview. I take off her clothes and she has a gorgeous tight beautiful pussy. I rub the clit and then get a finger inside. She is in heaven. She grabs for my dick and throws me on the bed. Out comes the rubber. I ask for sin cover but no, she is NOT doing that. I think ok. The head is actually pretty good. She then looks at me and then does this sexy cool wink fuck. She licks and sucks the balls then it's time to fuck. We start in doggy and she is tight and wet. I then turn her over, missionary. Mmm lots of kissing but then, she reaches for her toys. She has 2 wands. One battery, one plugs in. She goes for the plug in and puts it right on her clit. Wow, my dick is inside her but we aren't pumping as she is getting her self comfortabe with the wand on her dick. The vibrations feel soo good for both of us. We fuck inbetween her getting off. She keeps doing it over and over and eventually. Bam! She squirts!! Wow. A real life squirter. It was somewhere in between a gush and a stream. She keeps cumming and I feel the pulse. Again. Bam more squirting!! She is super into all of this. She says she has more so we go again. BAMM squirt city! We changes positions, she gets on top. I can see her paisa perfecta pussy as she grabs the wireless wand. It's less powerful but she is also running out of steam. She wants the leche and jerks me off onto her tits and it hits her chin. She laughs, we shower together. She starts showing me pics of her son and we kick it for another 45 min. Not a clock watcher and just really chill. She is so awesome that I see her the next day! It was a repeat of the service only better and this time I just finished in the condom. Only problem was the 2nd time she had to leave early so we couldn't hang. I thought it was BS for another client but she got dressed with me and left the apartment together with me.

130 K I had her 150 K but never got back change (bad on my part).

The hipster in me likes the Indies, I go to See Agatha. She was 21 years old. This was a mistake. I get to her apartment in Las Palams. She keeps me waiting almost 45 minutes. The elevator was out of order or something and I had to hoof it up 9 flights of stairs. I get to the door, she opens it. Not bad, I can't tell if th photos were real or not or just heavly photoshoped. I can tell the whole apartment is being used by differnet girls. As soon as I get to the room, she ask for the money. OK I tae care of her. She had on a whole lingeria get up. She takes it off and then once her stomach is reveal and large 6 and a half inch see section scare is revealed. She obviously had the kid within the last 6 months she the scar is still somewhat fresh. I try to look away but it's just ehhh. SHe only does small kisses. She has nice small implants which I like but the rest of her set is about as mechanical as jiffy lube. It's going thru the motions and I could tell the whole time she was not in the moment at all. She goes a covered BJ, its actually pretty good and smooth but she wants to fuck. Gets lube, hops on top. I can tell her whole mission is to make me cum as quick as possible. I sense that and I make sure I last. She was totally trying to get me to cum in 30 seconds. She was a little frustrated, we changed positions. She has her eyes wide open the whole time and keeps checking to make sure the condom is still on. She do a couple more positions. I finally nut in the rubber. After I shower and I straight up as her. How long have you been doing this? Are you new? She says yes 4 months now. I told her she didn't seem all there. She and I both knew this isn't the job for her. She agreed with him and I left. It's just what I love is finding someone who is in't this and she was totally not that type of person.

Had some dates with 4 non pro Paisas. All very different.

First one was from Cupid. I totally didn't remember what she looked like as I just text every single girl in my phone who's name I put Medellin. We agreed to meet. Holy shit! In person she is a smoke shop! She's 27 but looks 21.8. 5! And her personality was super chill. She's a hipster chick that's not really the traditional plastic girl but she still works out a lot. Her stomach was tight as fuck!! We had a real date which ment no hooking up the first time (that's the culture for regular girls here, it's ironic considering how many raging working girls there are roaming these streets) we did do lots of petting and got pretty wasted. Smoked a bit. I hung out with her again but this time it felt I dunno somehing was off. One thing that bothered me was after we had lunch. I go to the ATM and leave her be. I come back and there is this tall gringo who she is talking to. She says it's her friend I greet them. She says that her girlfriend met on Cupid and that's her BF. I was like hmm the only thing that bothered me was when we left he said "ok by baby" the baby shit set off red flags and ever since I have been thinking she is a pro. I haven't hit it and we only kissed once, I asked to see her during a lunch break and never get a response. I'm 90% sure she is a pro. I'm dying to find out, not because I want to catch her and be like "ahh hhhha" but more like "hey be honest before I just waste money on drinks an dinner with no play".

2nd one was a webcam girl I managed to meet from Myfreecams. First off getting a number off there is impressive, 2nd is getting one without tipping! I accomplished Both and it will prob never happen again! She's 20 years old. I want to fuck her friend who is popular in Mfc but Had turned me down soo many times. Her friend is new so Easy target. I met her at the mall, took her for mall food and she loved it. Lots of stares and glances. She is sort of gothy but sweet. She wouldn't kiss after but I could tell she wanted to. I planted the seed and said "I know paisa don't kiss on the first date" she said yes. So I said the 2nd date. I walked away. Text her where to meet me in 5 minutes. She comes we go into a corner. Hard core making out. I grab her plum ass hard!. It was too risky for a public BJ so I stuck my fingers in her mouth and in Spanish "you will taste this off my dick soon" I left after that. The Follow up visit is tonight and she been texting me all types of shit so I'll let you know how this one goes.

3rd.

I made friends with locas here and my friend has been fucking this cute paisa girl he met in Poblado. On a whimp I went out that night with him and I said "it's ususally the nights you don't plan on going out that are the best" Boy I couldn't be more right. We meet her and her friend at Eco bar in Poblado. They are there already half lit. This girl is fucking smoking hot! She has her hair tied in a tight slicked back pony tail, petite about 5 2 but with a bad ass attitude she's 28 but looks 21. She is one of those girls that can be tough but also sweet. She has a plump small ass with small tits to match. Her face is like looking into pure beauty. We imedelty click and my friend is helping translate. We hang out at another hipster bar and they go to the bathroom to do blow. I'm not really into drug chicks or drugs for that matter but I understand it's sort of her way of unwinding. They get back, and she chanllenges her friend to kiss in front of us. They have been doing this but then she uses it as a cue for her to kiss as well. She taughts me into kissing her and I go FULL in. WoW she is a fucking amazing kisser and doesn't hold back. She kept doing some paisa things, like backing off and then coming full circle. It's all part of the hard to get culture here. I'm cool with it. We get pretty drunk and are making out hard core in the club. She does not like any advancement towards the lower body and makes it clear with a firm "NOO" jajajaja. Some more making out and she wants to keep partying. My friend has work the next day so we have to leave. I knew it was best because there wasn't going to be any fucking that night if we got a room so I called it a night and paid for thier taxi home. We made plans the following week and even did the each day follow up. She assured me she was coming. I show up. Nothing. I'm not mad, this is just hte paisa way of dating. They are more flakey then Tony The tiger. I been trying to call but ahh it's like eventually it willl or won't happen. No big deal.

4th one.

100% wifey material. I met her thru instagram. We talked and facetime for a while. Finally met in person. HOLY FUCK! A 1-10 she is fucking 10000000. She's 22 She comes from money, has a passport / visa and is in med school. DOesn't drink or smoke and lives in dope building in Poblado with just her mom. Let me say, she is the full package of perfect. We have good chemistry but her school keeps her super busy. I thought it was bullshit but I saw her schedule and even visited her at her school once. SHe is very focused and a real good girl. We went out for sushi, and got really close to kissing the first night. I gave her a peck on her neck and she smiled then ran my fingers down her back. It's been difficult to see each other but I also think she has a novio on the side. Also there is conflict because I am a gringo and she doesn't' want people thinking she is a prepago. It's a tough stigma but I get it. I been having to back off but only to not seem too intrested. I got to play it cool if she really is a true pocahontas.

So the Photos I tried to upload them as best I could. Obviously the ones at the casa where hard but it goes as follows.

1 Laura.

2,3 Francesca.

4 Celeste.

5,6 Angel.

7 The first Date Non pro.

8 3rd date.

There ya go boys. I know I don't have many nudes Ill see what else is on my phone but enjoy and happy mongering![/QUOTE]This forum is called reports, not tips. Bumping this to keep us on topic.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1695538]This forum is called reports, not tips. Bumping this to keep us on topic.[/QUOTE]Pulitzer prize matérial.

Keep bumping to the top, LOL.

Was a nice report though, and you should be proud of it.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1695354]I called Capital One 360 each time I left and was given confusing feedback about fees, no charges or it depends were you use it. I was advises to use ATMs with the all point logo. I never found that logo in any DR or Colombia ATM so I used it anyway. Upon checking my statements, I never saw a Capital One 360 bank charge and I use more than 10 different ATMs.[/QUOTE]I don't know which Capital One card it was, but yesterday my buddy was trying to use one here in Thailand to purchase some suits. He had to call because they had blocked the card even though he had called to let them know before he left the States. They unblocked it and it worked. When we left the tailor he tried to use it in an ATM. It didn't work. He called again and they told him that he had exceeded the limit of withdrawals and could only use it as a credit card until whenever.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1695538]This forum is called reports, not tips. Bumping this to keep us on topic.[/QUOTE]I agree with you a lot. Historically this thread has had very few reports, and very few posts were interseting to everyone at the same time.

But sometimes I read a few posts intersting to me, ie. Coca leaves sold at heath shops. To me, it is not that painful or time-consuming to just ignore posts about viagra, tips, banks, etc. I am sure a few members like these topics, and they don't bother me.
Secondly, most of the members criticizing about the lack of relevant reports here have never posted reports themselves. I won't mention their names, of course.
Lastly, many good reports used to be mocked and attacked by a few haters until they were removed by Jackson last year. Now, reports are respected and appreciated. This is a great improvement.
I am not disagreeing with you. I am just mentioning some factors to help considering whether a stricter policy on the issue of posts is more productive.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1695612]I don't know which Capital One card it was, but yesterday my buddy was trying to use one here in Thailand to purchase some suits. He had to call because they had blocked the card even though he had called to let them know before he left the States. They unblocked it and it worked. When we left the tailor he tried to use it in an ATM. It didn't work. He called again and they told him that he had exceeded the limit of withdrawals and could only use it as a credit card until whenever.[/QUOTE]I will echo what other have already said: you will have absolutely no problems with a Schwab account. Unless you forget to call them to place travel alerts on your card.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1695559]Pulitzer prize matrial.

Keep bumping to the top, LOL.

Was a nice report though, and you should be proud of it.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I'm actually still here so I've already got another one loaded up. I just have to add some touches.

Hey guys,

I just came back from Medellin and I had a blast. Just wanted to keep you guys updated.

As you know the Peso has taken a hit because of the raising dollar. When I came to Medellin the Peso was around $260,000 (Pesos) for Every $100 US Dollars. So it was a excellent mongering trip, I hardly spent any money.

Medellin Mansion.

As you know I stayed in the Medellin Mansion, its the perfect mongering spot in Medellin, There are working girls in and out of the mansion everyday. My 2nd trip was a bit disappointing. Why was it disappointing? Because I was in the mansion last year around June.

Which was almost 8 Months ago and I still see the same 20 Girls from my last trip!. I was hoping to see some new talent but its the same chicas! You would think after 8 months that I would see some new faces but this trip but I did not. Plus during the day the mansion was pretty dead. Most of the girls only came out at night time. Maybe I came at the wrong time? But last time there were way more girls. Next time I think I will go during summer time when university is out.

Most of the girls will accept 150,000 Pesos for 1 Hour, or 250-300,000 for the whole night. So that comes out to about $58.00. So the mansion Girls are a bargain, Even though I think I get better performance at the casas and its much cheaper.

NewLife.

This is the premier Casa I love new life, and it only cost 42,000 pesos per hour. That's about $15.00 per girl? Amazing! I went to new life the next day I landed and boy did they have some new talent and for $15 bucks you cannot go wrong, even if you get a whack nut.

I fucked about maybe 8 girls out of new life. I had some nice sessions, and there performance were way better than any mansion girl I had and they want 150,000 pesos per hour. Definitely check out new life casa, To me they have the most girls and there rates are amazing, Your not going to get good quality cheap pussy anywhere else.

Loutron.

Now with Loutron I did not make it to this casa the last trip last year, but everybody that I met in the Dominican republic that has been to said to try out Loutron Casa. Its the most expensive casa in Medellin at 230,000 pesos per hour and it was suppose to have nothing but 9's and 10's Chicas. Boy was I so disappointed! First to find this place was a hassle and journey. Its up in the hills with a big gate. So while I'm taking the taxi I'm thinking this place is some exclusive casa and since there charging 230,000 there going to be some stunning women! When the head lady in charge started to bring out the chicas to choose. The women were average, all I seen was 5's and 6's.

They have better women in new life. None of the girls impressed me and I'm not about to spend 230,000 pesos for average girls that I can get at the New Life or the Coffee shop. Place was a total disappointment. I don't know many I went on a slow day?

Coffee Shop.

On my last trip Coffee shop was a nice casa, I found some gems during my last trip, but this trip the place has gone to hell, I found no chica that spark my interest, but hey they only charge 36,000 pesos so on maybe you guys might like this place but for me last year was better. Way more stunning chicas.

Energy.

Did not go to energy on my last trip but this trip I said I wanted to check this place out. I think energy is way over hyped. I went on a Tuesday afternoon and there were around 10 chicas working that day. I found many 1 or 2 that spark my interest but at 130,000 peso per hour, I would think the women would be better quality, again I found better looking girls in New Life.

This is a quick short report. I just came back from Medellin and wanted to give you guys the heads up. Right now its a buyers market. This is the first mongering trip that I ever took that I came back with money. I spent about $1200 for the week. (Spending money).

And I was throwing away money, (Doing tours, Fucking a mansion girl everyday, Fucking 2 maybe 3 girls every Casa visit and leaving large tips, etc.). Is one of the last cheap places to buy pussy. But next trip I will go in the summer time.

[QUOTE=TweedleD;1622283][URL]www.colombiajake.com[/URL] not hard at all USA 727-498-1680.[/QUOTE]Some of you know Miami Joe, he's heading back tomorrow after having been a regular here and at Zandelay Casa. Nobody seems to have more fun! From the twosomes and threesomes and a bottle of rum, to whips and sex dice, to his Arabian costume birthday party with masks for the girls, we'll see you back here in August. The best casa is right now is Zandelay at the moment if you like thin girls like me, or New Life for the thicker ones! Other than the casa scene, I keep recruiting thin semi pros here for the guys who like to have something fun to do at night. Jesse is here for two nights before he goes back to Canada and he's taking Johanna up to a dark crossover music bar off Calle 10 near Lleras that I know to have a few drinks, and grind to the reggaeton music, where she puts her ass in your crotch and basically just applies pressure and you just stand there I mean come on its fun, and talk about a warm up! My latest thin recruit is named Andrea!

Thanks for helping me live this Dream!

Jake

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1696407]
Thanks for helping me live this Dream!

Jake[/QUOTE]Is TweedleD receiving a royalty payment for every time you quote his post? A post he made back in September 2014 and that you have been quoting just about every week since then, LOL?

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1696393]Hey guys,

I just came back from Medellin and I had a blast. Just wanted to keep you guys updated.

As you know the Peso has taken a hit because of the raising dollar. When I came to Medellin the Peso was around $260,000 (Pesos) for Every $100 US Dollars. So it was a excellent mongering trip, I hardly spent any money.

Medellin Mansion.

As you know I stayed in the Medellin Mansion, its the perfect mongering spot in Medellin, There are working girls in and out of the mansion everyday. My 2nd trip was a bit disappointing. Why was it disappointing? Because I was in the mansion last year around June.

Which was almost 8 Months ago and I still see the same 20 Girls from my last trip!. I was hoping to see some new talent but its the same chicas! You would think after 8 months that I would see some new faces but this trip but I did not. Plus during the day the mansion was pretty dead. Most of the girls only came out at night time. Maybe I came at the wrong time? But last time there were way more girls. Next time I think I will go during summer time when university is out...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report! Many complain that the M does not have enough fresh blood. I'm sure they are working on it. Lots of girls tell me they don't like going there other than large events.

Lourtron. Deep sigh. They do go into huge swings for talent. They have a second location in Bogota so they split the A team with that shop and then call up the be team from Abydos to fill in the gap. Before the Bogota spot took off they had all 8's or better I promise you.

In 2012 they had a strong line up. Guess those girls moved on.

[QUOTE=Member#4287;1672957]These chicks are off the beaten path but well worth the extra effort to get with IMHO.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/katherin.b.arias?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/luzdelly.vanegas?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/lizeth.d.gomez.5?pnref=friends.search[/URL]

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/yesica.bahamon?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all[/URL]

The last one I haven't done yet. So if someone gets with her. Let me know how it goes.[/QUOTE]I'd say the last one Yesica is either a fake profile or just an attention grabber. Just my two cents. I wish I could get Kahe Arias to accent my requests. Any feed back on her? Hard to book? Is she a semi pro?

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1694468]130 k + 100 K tip (Over tipped fucked up cause I was fresh off the plane and big head had all the blood).1 Laura.

2,3 Francesca.

4 Celeste.

5,6 Angel.

7 The first Date Non pro.

8 3rd date.

There ya go boys. I know I don't have many nudes Ill see what else is on my phone but enjoy and happy mongering![/QUOTE]Best report I've read this month, possibly this calendar year. Details, crisp writing style, descriptions, photos. What is there NOT to love?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1696600]Thanks for the report! Many complain that the M does not have enough fresh blood. I'm sure they are working on it. Lots of girls tell me they don't like going there other than large events.

Lourtron. Deep sigh. They do go into huge swings for talent. They have a second location in Bogota so they split the A team with that shop and then call up the be team from Abydos to fill in the gap. Before the Bogota spot took off they had all 8's or better I promise you.

In 2012 they had a strong line up. Guess those girls moved on.[/QUOTE]Is there a way to know when M will have large events? I signed up for their newsletter, but as others have noted, they never actually send anything out.

[QUOTE=JoBobTheClown;1696917]Is there a way to know when M will have large events? I signed up for their newsletter, but as others have noted, they never actually send anything out.[/QUOTE]Other than Super Bowl and Halloween, most of any other big events are scheduled by guys coming to stay there and wanting to throw a private party.

Heading out tonight after taking it easy for a week or so. Thinking of checking out Fase II and or Mayorista, not necessarily in that order, if somebody in town would like to join up with a couple of us. Who knows, might even visit the rooftop bar at Charlee, was there the other night and there was a birthday party with 15 or so beauties.

Regarding the Loutron post the other day, the last time I visited was before Christmas. I don't understand the big deal about the house, it's too damn big and empty, would have been a better gymnasium except that it's too far away to be of much use. They did have some good looking girls, including one that people have mentioned before on ISG that is a real dud, in fact somewhat crazy and not in a good way! She seems to have made the rounds, having worked just about everywhere and subsequently getting fired from each place.

I picked a good looking blond paisa 26 yrs old, beautiful face with bolt-ONS, but the body left something to be desired and especially at those prices. I can't recall her name since it was so long ago and the session was nothing memorable. She was pleasant enough, and with her clothes on would make nice eye candy, but that's not why we go to these places. In short, I won't likely go back to Loutron unless a buddy who has never been is in town visiting. It's a relaxing place but the other girls were in the same category, imo, so no need to pay over 3 x for what one can get all day long in centro. And if they don't have one you're really into, too bad because you're stuck out in the woods, not like you can walk around the corner in search of another gem.

I don't know anything about the idea they share talent with a Bogota location, could be, but I believe all the ones I was presented were Paisas.

[QUOTE=KConstant;1661820]Hola,

I came over to this board from Sosua Reports. I will visit Medellin in May 2015. It will be my first time in Medellin, and my first time in Colombia. So far, I've been to Thailand, Dominican Republic, and Costa Rica. My most recent experience was in Sosua earlier this month. I'll be in Pattaya again in March. I'm not a total novice at this habit.

I have had some brief conversations face-to-face about the Medellin scene, but I want to speed up my learning curve. I will be a short time (7 day) visitor with basic Spanish language skills, and I want to find all pro action. I understand that Medellin has a combination of club-like short time venues and as well as "casas".

Would someone be so kind as to point me in the direction of relevant posts or give me a rundown / overview of how the scene works in Medellin.

Thanks,

K Constant[/QUOTE]Hey,

K when in May are you going?

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1696393]
Now with Loutron I did not make it to this casa the last trip last year, but everybody that I met in the Dominican republic that has been to said to try out Loutron Casa. Its the most expensive casa in Medellin at 230,000 pesos per hour and it was suppose to have nothing but 9's and 10's Chicas. Boy was I so disappointed! First to find this place was a hassle and journey. Its up in the hills with a big gate. So while I'm taking the taxi I'm thinking this place is some exclusive casa and since there charging 230,000 there going to be some stunning women! When the head lady in charge started to bring out the chicas to choose. The women were average, all I seen was 5's and 6's.
[/QUOTE]They had some nice girls there when I visited last Fall. The thing I hate about Loutron is their whole forced routine in the room. First, the girl does a massage with that crappy massage oil, which feels gross and is almost impossible to wash off. Then, after wasting all that time, and only then, can you proceed on to the other activities. If I'm paying for a certain amount of time, I don't want them dictating how that time should be spent. Everywhere else I go, I decide on the activities to enjoy in the room. This whole forced routine thing they have going on at Loutron is total BS.

I'd love to have a temporary girlfriend to travel with. Improve my Spanish, sex in the hotel room, sightsee, etc.

Any ideas about how to do this and how much to pay her (on top of travel expenses, of course)? Or would she do it for free just to enjoy some travel?

I have about four weeks to travel around in Colombia, and I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to get a "real" girlfriend quick enough for her to travel around with me. (I'm 45, look okay, never had pickup skills.).

And somewhat related, if not multi-day travel, what are typical 24-hour rates for a one-day girlfriend? Is it done?

Paul

It is certainly possible, but there are some considerations. One is cost. Just generalizing, you would think most women would want say $200 k at a minimum, per day, maybe more.

Another thing that we have a tendency to forget is that this is a job for them. They may act like they want to be with you, but it is an act. When they have to act 24 hours a day, for days on end, well that is asking a lot. They may even get disgusted, say with your snoring, or your largeness, or whatever.

Chesscat.

[QUOTE=PaulPassem;1697357]I'd love to have a temporary girlfriend to travel with. Improve my Spanish, sex in the hotel room, sightsee, etc.

Any ideas about how to do this and how much to pay her (on top of travel expenses, of course)? Or would she do it for free just to enjoy some travel?

I have about four weeks to travel around in Colombia, and I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to get a "real" girlfriend quick enough for her to travel around with me. (I'm 45, look okay, never had pickup skills.).

And somewhat related, if not multi-day travel, what are typical 24-hour rates for a one-day girlfriend? Is it done?

Paul[/QUOTE]

It's very possible. I took a fb girl from Medellin to Cancun for 5 days. But she wasn't somebody I just picked up out of the blue, we had multiple dates previously and had a good connection. I wouldn't be able to do that with someone I just met. And it's more fun when the girl wants to travel and have fun at the same time and also get some financial assistance as well. I gave her about 700 mil pesos which included her airport transportation and a mini suitcase that she had to buy for the trip. And of course I paid for everything while there. But Cancun was too touristy for me, too many gringos LOL. But the endless tequila shots and hot sex at night was well worth it. I'm in my 30's and speak Spanish, so having communication skills helps.

[QUOTE=Chesscat;1697527]It is certainly possible, but there are some considerations. One is cost. Just generalizing, you would think most women would want say $200 k at a minimum, per day, maybe more.

Another thing that we have a tendency to forget is that this is a job for them. They may act like they want to be with you, but it is an act. When they have to act 24 hours a day, for days on end, well that is asking a lot. They may even get disgusted, say with your snoring, or your largeness, or whatever.

Chesscat.[/QUOTE]

There are a few things money cannot buy. Pros would get tired of and frustrated by being with somebody who can't speak Spanish and / or whom they don't know. It would become a nightmare if a pro doesn't know about it, lured by the money, and accept your offer. Plus you have to watch her 24 hrs to make sure she is not stealing your things. Just find a girl friend. But you cannot fully trust even "girl friend" in Colombia.

[QUOTE=PaulPassem;1697357]I'd love to have a temporary girlfriend to travel with. Improve my Spanish, sex in the hotel room, sightsee, etc.

Any ideas about how to do this and how much to pay her (on top of travel expenses, of course)? Or would she do it for free just to enjoy some travel?

I have about four weeks to travel around in Colombia, and I'm not sure I'm skilled enough to get a "real" girlfriend quick enough for her to travel around with me. (I'm 45, look okay, never had pickup skills.).

And somewhat related, if not multi-day travel, what are typical 24-hour rates for a one-day girlfriend? Is it done?

Paul[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1696775]Best report I've read this month, possibly this calendar year. Details, crisp writing style, descriptions, photos. What is there NOT to love?[/QUOTE]Aww shucks. I'm finishing up another one, I'll post soon. Been busy with some non prepaids and enjoying the culture. This city is beautiful, if you come here just for sex it's good but if you take a minute to learn the people and the culture it's great.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1697535]It's very possible. I took a fb girl from Medellin to Cancun for 5 days. But she wasn't somebody I just picked up out of the blue, we had multiple dates previously and had a good connection. I wouldn't be able to do that with someone I just met.[/QUOTE]Agreed.

If you are not new to P4P then you should know that it is usually inadvisable to do TLN (Toda La Noche or "All Night") with a chica you have never sessioned with before. Like if you agree to give her 300 k Pesos for all night and she comes over and only will give you a covered blow job, has a smelly pussy, is a thief, a psycho, or her definition of TLN is sex at night, but in the morning if you want sex again it will cost you more. Had you agreed to Short Time (ST) at 100 k or 150 k you would be out far less money to find out all of this.

Take the above scenario and imagine it happening with a chica you've negotiated (and possibly prepaid a portion of the money) to stay with you for a week or more. Like Matt said: Forget it.

Far better to do as RiceRocket suggested and arrange this with a chica that you have history with.

Interestingly, as many favorites as I have, there are none that I could imagine spending a block of consecutive days with.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1697602]Agreed.

If you are not new to P4P then you should know that it is usually inadvisable to do TLN (Toda La Noche or "All Night") with a chica you have never sessioned with before. Like if you agree to give her 300 k Pesos for all night and she comes over and only will give you a covered blow job, has a smelly pussy, is a thief, a psycho, or her definition of TLN is sex at night, but in the morning if you want sex again it will cost you more. Had you agreed to Short Time (ST) at 100 k or 150 k you would be out far less money to find out all of this.

Take the above scenario and imagine it happening with a chica you've negotiated (and possibly prepaid a portion of the money) to stay with you for a week or more. Like Matt said: Forget it.

Far better to do as RiceRocket suggested and arrange this with a chica that you have history with.

Interestingly, as many favorites as I have, there are none that I could imagine spending a block of consecutive days with.[/QUOTE]Very sound advice. There are no positives that can come from making a long-term arrangement with a chica you haven't at least sampled ST already.

What's more, if you end up getting along well with a particular chica, she may be happy to spend TLN with you for only a bit more than the ST price you originally settled on.

If you plan on spending several days with a specific chica, you'd better get along REALLY well. Most of us can't fuck every waking hour. So unless you truly enjoy hanging around with each other outside of sex, you could be setting yourself up for a lousy time.

A few weeks ago I filled out the online booking system for the Mansion but never got a reply. Last September the same thing happened so I booked a hotel. While in Medellin, I stopped by the Mansion and they actually had rooms available during my stay. They said something about a new website or something. I've stayed at the Mansion several times over the years and enjoyed it. Has anyone else had this problem. Do they have a toll-free number from the States?

Thanks for all your thoughts on getting a girlfriend for multi-day travel. It confirmed my suspicion.

I suppose there could be a business opportunity here to arrange with girls with personalities that do well in this situation. But perhaps it's too small of a niche market.

Paul

[QUOTE=DashingDon;1697739]A few weeks ago I filled out the online booking system for the Mansion but never got a reply. Last September the same thing happened so I booked a hotel. While in Medellin, I stopped by the Mansion and they actually had rooms available during my stay. They said something about a new website or something. I've stayed at the Mansion several times over the years and enjoyed it. Has anyone else had this problem. Do they have a toll-free number from the States?[/QUOTE]They have a Chicago (312) Tel #. I've always used that to make reservations.

[QUOTE=PaulPassem;1697758]I suppose there could be a business opportunity here to arrange with girls with personalities that do well in this situation. But perhaps it's too small of a niche market.[/QUOTE]It has less to do with business opportunities, a girl's personality, or a niche market, and more to do with the chemistry you would have with the person. As everyone else has stated, fucking someone for an hour and never having to see them again is quite different from living with someone for 5 days. There is only so much acting that either party can do. And to have a language barrier just complicates things even more.

I just email the mansion. As limited as I am, last stay, I fixed their computer rather than waiting for their tech guy to get off his ass. Given the speed of their tech, I would rather just go the direct route.

Will be going to Medellin the beginning of June and will be renting two rooms during my stay. One of the rooms will be in the El Centro area adjacent to Botero Plaza and Avenida de La Grief. I have stayed in this area before and already know where I will be renting a room for about 20,000 COP a day. I will use this hotel primarily during the daytime and occasionally at night. However as this area gets very dicey at night, I also am going to rent a room in a safer and more upscale neighborhood relatively close to El Centro, preferably in either Estado or Laureles. I have no problem paying upwards of 150,000 COP for a nice place to stay that is guest friendly with no joiner fees with the expectation that I will be booking a double room.

Any hotel suggestions with perhaps a pool and nice rooms / grounds that is guest friendly close to El Centro would be appreciated. Ideally the hotel will be close to a Metro station as well. Not interested in the Poblado area or the Mansion.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Combo;1697841]They have a Chicago (312) Tel #. I've always used that to make reservations.[/QUOTE]If they don't respond or be lazy, wouldn't be alternate idea to stay in neighbor hotel, Diez etc. , and meet chicas at Mansion's bar?

[QUOTE=Elpostino;1698362]If they don't respond or be lazy, wouldn't be alternate idea to stay in neighbor hotel, Diez etc. , and meet chicas at Mansion's bar?[/QUOTE]Aussie Greg has stated countless times you have to be a hotel guest to partake in the festivities. Granted he has a few personal amigos he allows in.

Also there was talk of allowing non guests into the bar for a fee of I think 50 K. , but no word on if that is a policy.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1698584]Aussie Greg has stated countless times you have to be a hotel guest to partake in the festivities. Granted he has a few personal amigos he allows in.

Also there was talk of allowing non guests into the bar for a fee of I think 50 K. , but no word on if that is a policy.[/QUOTE]I can confirm Mansion policy as of a couple weeks ago is that they will let people into the bar (after 6 pm only) for 50 K pesos, IF and only if the hotel is already full (both building one and two). If not full, they expect you to buy a room to participate. They were full on the day I inquired, but I did not partake as I headed to El Centro then Mayorista instead.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1697996]Will be going to Medellin the beginning of June and will be renting two rooms during my stay. One of the rooms will be in the El Centro area adjacent to Botero Plaza and Avenida de La Grief. I have stayed in this area before and already know where I will be renting a room for about 20,000 COP a day. I will use this hotel primarily during the daytime and occasionally at night. However as this area gets very dicey at night, I also am going to rent a room in a safer and more upscale neighborhood relatively close to El Centro, preferably in either Estado or Laureles. I have no problem paying upwards of 150,000 COP for a nice place to stay that is guest friendly with no joiner fees with the expectation that I will be booking a double room.

Any hotel suggestions with perhaps a pool and nice rooms / grounds that is guest friendly close to El Centro would be appreciated. Ideally the hotel will be close to a Metro station as well. Not interested in the Poblado area or the Mansion.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Get an Air be&be a just stay away from Medellin Luxary rentals as this guys rates are gringo rip off. He might have nice apartments but they charge like $1500 for a studio apartment for a month.

Anyone going to Medellin, Cartagena or Guatape beware of a guy named Albert L. He is a con artist and habitual liar.

I gave him a deposit for a apartment and when I got to town he said it was rented!

Never returned my deposit after many, many request. He only threatened me.

[QUOTE=Hiltler;1698669]Anyone going to Medellin, Cartagena or Guatape beware of a guy named Albert Licht. He is a con artist and habitual liar.

I gave him a deposit for a apartment and when I got to town he said it was rented!

Never returned my deposit after many, many request. He only threatened me.[/QUOTE]When was this? Curious because I knew he went to rehab for a drug and alcohol problem. I am also aware that he has taken advantage of many.

[QUOTE=Hiltler;1698669]Anyone going to Medellin, Cartagena or Guatape beware of a guy named Albert Licht. He is a con artist and habitual liar.

I gave him a deposit for a apartment and when I got to town he said it was rented!

Never returned my deposit after many, many request. He only threatened me.[/QUOTE]He has been reported to rip girls off too. Be ware! Liar and a thief!

I'm sure a lot of people don't read this forum on a daily basis, so it's a good reminder about certain scams that still exist. I didn't know about the December post until you re-posted it. I've had my own misfortunes with Medellin, which I have posted 2 years ago, but certain people here tend to attack those kinds of posts. Anyways, live and learn. One thing I have learned is to just keep certain things private, good or bad. Some people just don't appreciate any intel and tend to question your motives.

I have learned a lot from this site and have posted numerous trip reports from various countries to contribute, but now I understand why vets don't post as much or at all due to people just being trolls or questioning their motives. I am no vet by any means, but I go out and do my own homework and research.

[QUOTE=RicardoTorres;1698764]I see you also posted about this in December, so why are you choosing to again?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1698823]I'm sure a lot of people don't read this forum on a daily basis, so it's a good reminder about certain scams that still exist. I didn't know about the December post until you re-posted it. I've had my own misfortunes with Medellin, which I have posted 2 years ago, but certain people here tend to attack those kinds of posts. Anyways, live and learn. One thing I have learned is to just keep certain things private, good or bad. Some people just don't appreciate any intel and tend to question your motives.

I have learned a lot from this site and have posted numerous trip reports from various countries to contribute, but now I understand why vets don't post as much or at all due to people just being trolls or questioning their motives. I am no vet by any means, but I go out and do my own homework and research.[/QUOTE]Might want to consider getting some cheese and crackers to go along with your wine. There is nothing wrong with asking the question I did, as possibly the poster has alternative motives against the guy he is referring to. After all Hitler has but two posts, and shares nothing but his problem with Albert.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1698823]I'm sure a lot of people don't read this forum on a daily basis, so it's a good reminder about certain scams that still exist. I didn't know about the December post until you re-posted it. I've had my own misfortunes with Medellin, which I have posted 2 years ago, but certain people here tend to attack those kinds of posts. Anyways, live and learn. One thing I have learned is to just keep certain things private, good or bad. Some people just don't appreciate any intel and tend to question your motives.

I have learned a lot from this site and have posted numerous trip reports from various countries to contribute, but now I understand why vets don't post as much or at all due to people just being trolls or questioning their motives. I am no vet by any means, but I go out and do my own homework and research.[/QUOTE]It's sad to say but it's true amigo. Some people just don't get it and don't want to see the truth. Like the people that don't have their children vaccinated.

About a year back 3 gringos and 7 chicas went to San Andres / la Playa and they got drugged and chaos broke out. At the time I was on line amigos with one of the guys and buddies with the other two. Plus I had taken a spin with two of the girls and was VERY good friends with one of their sisters. I told the real story at what had happened. What did a certain "Pro" that posts here accused me of.

"Trying to corner the facebook chica market!" hahahahha! This pro loves to save them.

He claimed to have "insider info" from some crap message board on CR times or what ever.

All I was doing was to give a heads up the Bros so they don't make the same mistake and to be mindful of the girls listed. I had no horse in that race and nothing to gain, no conspiracy, not trying to sell anything or gain in any way.

For my good intentions all I got was a fist full of haters and trolls. With "inside info" hahaha! From a Costa Rica board! I knew like 4 of the actual parties.

Like Ricerocket said. You live and learn and the OG members fade away because you can't fix stupid.

He is not wrong about Albert. Total con artist that makes a living stealing from tourists!

[QUOTE=Socker;1699181]This Hiltler w / his 2 post and insulting moronic handle deserves to be ignored.

Nothing more, nothing less.[/QUOTE]

Went out with a buddy yesterday late afternoon and hit several casas including a few I haven't been to before, maybe 7-8 in total. Like usual, you have to persevere to find what you're looking for, and on the last casa we finally had an ample lineup of honeys. Of the 8 girls presented, 3 were on both of our short lists. Since I had dropped a nut late morning, and my buddy was the one that showed me the place, he picked first and chose a thin Colombiana I also would have been happy with.

I was fortunate to get one of the taller ladies I've been with in Colombia, long thin legs and pretty face, great skin and firm B-cups. Right up my alley. I thought she might lack experience and I was right, but that didn't stop her from smiling and trying. She was a sweetie all around and her braces added to her cuteness. Really nice pussy (tight) without much mileage, maybe explained by the fact she's a middle class student from the Envigado area, rather than some of the more hardened barrio girls. She was also a bit cum shy when it came time for me to launch, but I will repeat with her but probably only once to see if I can make it any better and bc her pussy was close to perfect. Now that the ice has been broken, I'll see her outside of her work and for a couple hours. Due to the above, I believed her when she said she had only been in the business a month but who knows and who cares?

Always some gems to be had in El Centro for those that know where to look. I'm not sure why guys insist on spending big money for a jaded women at certain clubs when the best ladies, service, and prices can be had with a little effort in El Centro. I will return to my buddy's spot to sample the other goodies next week.

We'll be heading to Mayorista sometime in the next week if somebody is interested in meeting up for a couple beers. Have to double back and get with this sexy 19 yr old Aby (I didn't get a chance to be with when I discovered her last week since I had already popped a couple times that day.

Good luck in paradise!

Most people don't know values and they determine the value based on the price.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1699868]I'm not sure why guys insist on spending big money for a jaded women at certain clubs when the best ladies, service, and prices can be had with a little effort in El Centro. ![/QUOTE]

Thank you for taking the time to post. Anyone who has ever been to El Centro knows the information in the post, but thanks again anyway. What no one know is the name and address of the places you visited. You are not obligated to tell us. If you don't want to tell, what is the point, why post at all? I'm hoping you might be referring to a place that is not New Life, which must be among the top 5 best known Centro casas.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1699868]Went out with a buddy yesterday late afternoon and hit several casas including a few I haven't been to before, maybe 7-8 in total. Like usual, you have to persevere to find what you're looking for, and on the last casa we finally had an ample lineup of honeys. Of the 8 girls presented, 3 were on both of our short lists. Since I had dropped a nut late morning, and my buddy was the one that showed me the place, he picked first and chose a thin Colombiana I also would have been happy with.

I was fortunate to get one of the taller ladies I've been with in Colombia, long thin legs and pretty face, great skin and firm B-cups. Right up my alley. I thought she might lack experience and I was right, but that didn't stop her from smiling and trying. She was a sweetie all around and her braces added to her cuteness. Really nice pussy (tight) without much mileage, maybe explained by the fact she's a middle class student from the Envigado area, rather than some of the more hardened barrio girls. She was also a bit cum shy when it came time for me to launch, but I will repeat with her but probably only once to see if I can make it any better and bc her pussy was close to perfect. Now that the ice has been broken, I'll see her outside of her work and for a couple hours. Due to the above, I believed her when she said she had only been in the business a month but who knows and who cares?

Always some gems to be had in El Centro for those that know where to look. I'm not sure why guys insist on spending big money for a jaded women at certain clubs when the best ladies, service, and prices can be had with a little effort in El Centro. I will return to my buddy's spot to sample the other goodies next week.

We'll be heading to Mayorista sometime in the next week if somebody is interested in meeting up for a couple beers. Have to double back and get with this sexy 19 yr old Aby (I didn't get a chance to be with when I discovered her last week since I had already popped a couple times that day.

Good luck in paradise![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hiltler;1698669]Anyone going to Medellin, Cartagena or Guatape beware of a guy named Albert Licht. He is a con artist and habitual liar.

I gave him a deposit for a apartment and when I got to town he said it was rented!

Never returned my deposit after many, many request. He only threatened me.[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me with a guy named [blue][Personal Name deleted by Admin][/blue]s, go's by monger Jonsey. He got run out of Costa Rica and is now in Medellin. He grew up in So Cal, Santa Monica and when he has to leave Colombia he is in the bars of Tijuana, Mexico.

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[QUOTE=Knowledge;1700150]Thank you for taking the time to post. Anyone who has ever been to El Centro knows the information in the post, but thanks again anyway. What no one know is the name and address of the places you visited. You are not obligated to tell us. If you don't want to tell, what is the point, why post at all? I'm hoping you might be referring to a place that is not New Life, which must be among the top 5 best known Centro casas.[/QUOTE]I usually have no problem sharing specifics if it's a place or girl I discovered, like the girl Aby I mentioned in the same post you criticize. If it's intel a buddy gave me, I respect his right to privacy and only share general details so that other friends that also share winners in our group can partake in the action. Other than that, you are right and maybe I should not post as much, I'll continue to think it over. Seems that too many here whine, police others reports, or crying about another members handle, all of whom bring nothing to the party but just seek to take. In short, I suppose my reports aren't really written for you but for others that have helped me in the past. For example, if you were sincere about getting the details, you could have sent me an I'm instead of bringing a public complaint.

I will help you on the one question though, it was not New Life. We didn't visit NL this particular day, even though I like the joint.

It was a very good report. Enjoyed reading it.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1700241]I usually have no problem sharing specifics if it's a place or girl I discovered, like the girl Aby I mentioned in the same post you criticize. If it's intel a buddy gave me, I respect his right to privacy and only share general details so that other friends that also share winners in our group can partake in the action. Other than that, you are right and maybe I should not post as much, I'll continue to think it over. Seems that too many here whine, police others reports, or crying about another members handle, all of whom bring nothing to the party but just seek to take. In short, I suppose my reports aren't really written for you but for others that have helped me in the past. For example, if you were sincere about getting the details, you could have sent me an I'm instead of bringing a public complaint.

I will help you on the one question though, it was not New Life. We didn't visit NL this particular day, even though I like the joint.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RicardoTorres;1698875]Might want to consider getting some cheese and crackers to go along with your wine. There is nothing wrong with asking the question I did, as possibly the poster has alternative motives against the guy he is referring to. After all Hitler has but two posts, and shares nothing but his problem with Albert.[/QUOTE]The only motive I have is to shed light on one of Medellins scumbag thieves and hopefully prevent anyone else from.

Becoming a victim! Just Google the name Albert L and you can clearly see its not his first rodeo. After posting in several different forums, people came out of the wood work with stories about this guy. Mention his name to a prepago and get ready for an ear full. The only motive here is to warn the public and preventing anyone else from becoming a victim. So does someone have to live on here, post every other day and have no life to become a "Senior Member" ?

Does that make you judge and jury or is that what makes one post valid over the next? The number of posts someone makes does not indicate anything. Maybe he has more important things to do with his free time?

First I heard of someone being conned by Jonesie. It just goes to show that you only rent from people who have built reputable reputations in the rental business.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1699868]Went out with a buddy yesterday late afternoon and hit several casas i------(I didn't get a chance to be with when I discovered her last week since I had already popped a couple times that day.

Good luck in paradise![/QUOTE]Yes-- I too enjoyed reading this report. I understood clearly by the omission of "casa name" that the poster preferred for some reason to keep if private. I who will be returning to Medellin in a few weeks got a little intel in knowing that the Centro casas still have a few winners if one is willing to do a little leg work. Thanks for posting.

If you have something specific about Jonsie, put it down in words. Don't write vague innuendo like a little.

If he ripped you off, give us evidence or shut your fucking mouth.

Street Scene Near centro Museum Antioquia and Parque Botero-I stumbled across this youtube hidden cam video of the street scene. I think it gives one a pretty good what that is all about.

Room + gal for 15-30 minutes can be as cheap as 15,000 cop, but do not expect clean sheets. This is not my thing but it is worth knowing about; much like Tijuana's alley.

https://youtu.be/Rdp6HbcdhhE

[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aAXOC3P0Knw[/URL]

He takes pictures that are posted on sites like this and shows them to the girls. I don't know why. I guess he thinks he is helping out a puta by telling her someone posted a picture a site.

His name is [blue][Personal Name deleted by Admin][/blue]

He apparently has an axe to grind with Jonsie.

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This forum keeps getting more interesting day after day. "Days of our Lives" ain't got shit on us, LOL!

[QUOTE=Hiltler;1700275]So does someone have to live on here, post every other day and have no life to become a "Senior Member"?[/QUOTE]You choose your handle because it looks and sounds like Hitler. That would make you the moron. Maybe your intentions are good but your handle undermines those intentions.

Also you have no cred here. Anyone who has 2 post has no track record hence no credibility.

How about putting forth info on your experiences in Medellin?

In your second post start pointing fingers and your handle is Hiltler and you expect credibility? Jaja.

Take your world of shit somewhere else. That would be a good plan for you IMO.

This is why I don't post here as much. Dude does only have 2 posts but it ain't like he was out to scam or hurt anybody or spread lies. The dude with the suspect code name was trying to alert ya'll to a know liar and thief.

Dude has a long history of suspect behavior and several of my amigas have warned me about him and his behavior with them or their amigas.

One post of one thousand if a guy tells you to be careful where is the harm in actually using caution?

Thank Hiltler. It does look like Hitler if you look quick ahahhaha!

Yeah AL is a crook and a know scumbag.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1700478][URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aAXOC3P0Knw[/URL][/QUOTE]The people who prey on children should face capital punishment, IMO.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1700466]Street Scene Near centro Museum Antioquia and Parque Botero-I stumbled across this youtube hidden cam video of the street scene. I think it gives one a pretty good what that is all about.

Room + gal for 15-30 minutes can be as cheap as 15,000 cop, but do not expect clean sheets. This is not my thing but it is worth knowing about; much like Tijuana's alley.

https://youtu.be/Rdp6HbcdhhE[/QUOTE]TroyRoy,

What a relief to hear this, I am planning to visit this year Medellin for the first time. I've been to Brazil, Ukraine, Ethiopia, Thailand, Germany and Dubai for mongering and Medellin is next on my list. I read the Forum to get informed. And came through this Youtube Video and I thought WTF! Ugly, unsexy and then you guys post her mainly good looking Chicas. And I got worried, about the pics you guys post here compared to the Ladies in the Video. I would rate them max a 2, how would you rate them?

Regards,

Easyease

[QUOTE=EasyEase;1700757]TroyRoy,

What a relief to hear this, I am planning to visit this year Medellin for the first time. I've been to Brazil, Ukraine, Ethiopia, Thailand, Germany and Dubai for mongering and Medellin is next on my list. I read the Forum to get informed. And came through this Youtube Video and I thought WTF! Ugly, unsexy and then you guys post her mainly good looking Chicas. And I got worried, about the pics you guys post here compared to the Ladies in the Video. I would rate them max a 2, how would you rate them?

Regards,

Easyease[/QUOTE]Those are streetwalkers, and daytime ones on top of that, so no wonder they are so unattractive. Not to mention the video is taken in the one of the rougher parts of town. Just like anyplace else, you'll have to search a little to discover the gems, but Medellin has more than it's fair share.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1700707]The people who prey on children should face capital punishment, IMO.[/QUOTE]This is sick shit.

Alejandra is dire strait, she speaks fluent English and is a pain in the ass for me; [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006008624861&fref=hovercard[/URL].

Just XXX her and pay. Just like the other barrio girls, programmed to bore one until you pay.

The sex can be great, but buy new earplugs!!

Jesus, playing stupid or being it. Which is the worst. ?

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1701013]Alejandra is dire strait, she speaks fluent English and is a pain in the ass for me; [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006008624861&fref=hovercard[/URL].

Just XXX her and pay. Just like the other barrio girls, programmed to bore one until you pay.

The sex can be great, but buy new earplugs!!

Jesus, playing stupid or being it. Which is the worst. ?[/QUOTE]That chick has been in the game for a long time. Like probably on the starting lineup for the Mansion when the Mansion first started their business way back when. So if she came off as jaded, just take into account how long she's actually been around the game (hence the part about her being able to speak fluent English).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1701017]That chick has been in the game for a long time. Like probably on the starting lineup for the Mansion when the Mansion first started their business way back when. So if she came off as jaded, just take into account how long she's actually been around the game (hence the part about her being able to speak fluent English).[/QUOTE]Went by Adelitas next to Zandalay en centro twice last week. Looks like its shut down. Anyone got info on if it moved or where chicas went? I liked that spot.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1700706]
Thank Hiltler. It does look like Hitler if you look quick ahahhaha!

[/QUOTE]Or if your eye sight is going, LOL. I have been a moron from time to time and I admit it, everyone makes mistakes, just admit them.

The handle belongs on a white supremacist chat board but it's probably already taken.

She's OG for sure! LOL.

She was around during my 1st visit some 5&1/2 yrs ago.

Still cute I must say.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1701013]Alejandra is dire strait, she speaks fluent English and is a pain in the ass for me; [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006008624861&fref=hovercard[/URL].

Just XXX her and pay. Just like the other barrio girls, programmed to bore one until you pay.

The sex can be great, but buy new earplugs!!

Jesus, playing stupid or being it. Which is the worst. ?[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know about a daytime MPs that has a good line.

And could anyone share photo s.

Hey guys, I was looking for some insight for a place to stay. I tried reading through the forum and think I've narrowed in down but this being my first trip it's tough because I don't really know the lay of the land. Coming with a wingman, we have some mongering experience in the DR but this is our first Medellin trip. We like the action, the hunt and clubs. So we are thinking we want to stay close to Mayorista. It seems to be the 2 options here are Macedonia plaza and Alcaravan. These places are close enough to the action where we would just be able to pick up girls and walk back is that correct? From what I understand these hotels are decent but basic, no AC which is a bummer, is one better than the other? Is there a better option in the area?

The no AC might be a deal breaker for my friend so Hotel lleras 10 looks nice but further away. Is it a walk you would make with a girl during the day? And at night safe too? Or would we need to cab it? Is it girl friendly, extra charge?

Thanks for the help guys.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1702447]Hey guys, I was looking for some insight for a place to stay. I tried reading through the forum and think I've narrowed in down but this being my first trip it's tough because I don't really know the lay of the land. Coming with a wingman, we have some mongering experience in the DR but this is our first Medellin trip. We like the action, the hunt and clubs. So we are thinking we want to stay close to Mayorista. It seems to be the 2 options here are Macedonia plaza and Alcaravan. These places are close enough to the action where we would just be able to pick up girls and walk back is that correct? From what I understand these hotels are decent but basic, no AC which is a bummer, is one better than the other? Is there a better option in the area?

The no AC might be a deal breaker for my friend so Hotel lleras 10 looks nice but further away. Is it a walk you would make with a girl during the day? And at night safe too? Or would we need to cab it? Is it girl friendly, extra charge?

Thanks for the help guys.[/QUOTE]I can see from your post that you really have no handle on the layout of Medellin, how spread out everything is and it's many, many various ($$ & quality) chica options. I suspect also you are not fluent in Spanish. The best and only recommendation I have would be for you and your buddy to stay at the Mansion. During your 1st stay enjoy what the Mansion has to offer but make a point to get your ass out to hit the Mayorista street scene (look at a few rooms in nearby hotels-- they have some good value options); hit the Parque Lleras bars and check out Hotel Lleras 10 (this is a nice option in that area); hit the high and low end Centro casas; hit the strip clubs.

At the Mansion you will meet like minded guys who will be happy to point you in the right direction. After your first trip you will then be able to make an intelligent decision on which scene(s) best suits your personal tastes and budget. - Just my humble opinion. Good Luck.

You really need to read more.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9E&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&dg=feature&msa=0[/URL]

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1702447]Hey guys, I was looking for some insight for a place to stay. I tried reading through the forum and think I've narrowed in down but this being my first trip it's tough because I don't really know the lay of the land. Coming with a wingman, we have some mongering experience in the DR but this is our first Medellin trip. We like the action, the hunt and clubs. So we are thinking we want to stay close to Mayorista. It seems to be the 2 options here are Macedonia plaza and Alcaravan. These places are close enough to the action where we would just be able to pick up girls and walk back is that correct? From what I understand these hotels are decent but basic, no AC which is a bummer, is one better than the other? Is there a better option in the area?

The no AC might be a deal breaker for my friend so Hotel Lleras 10 looks nice but further away. Is it a walk you would make with a girl during the day? And at night safe too? Or would we need to cab it? Is it girl friendly, extra charge?

Thanks for the help guys.[/QUOTE]

They are all daytime early evening places.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9E&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&dg=feature&msa=0[/URL]

[B]* New Life,[/B] Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39, piso 2, between el Palo and Giradot. 15+ Chicas. Prices: 38 k 30 min. 52 k 45 min. 65 k hour. Tel: 216 27 04. Hours: Monday to Saturday. 9 am to 8 pm, [B]Sundays 10 am to 6 pm.[/B].

[QUOTE=OpticGuard;1702300]Does anyone know about a daytime MPs that has a good line.

And could anyone share photo s.[/QUOTE]

Gents,

Will be in Medellin for a couple of days. Appreciate a recommendation on two good escort services in Medellin.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1702447]Hey guys, I was looking for some insight for a place to stay. I tried reading through the forum and think I've narrowed in down but this being my first trip it's tough because I don't really know the lay of the land. Coming with a wingman, we have some mongering experience in the DR but this is our first Medellin trip. We like the action, the hunt and clubs. So we are thinking we want to stay close to Mayorista. It seems to be the 2 options here are Macedonia plaza and Alcaravan. These places are close enough to the action where we would just be able to pick up girls and walk back is that correct? From what I understand these hotels are decent but basic, no AC which is a bummer, is one better than the other? Is there a better option in the area?

The no AC might be a deal breaker for my friend so Hotel lleras 10 looks nice but further away. Is it a walk you would make with a girl during the day? And at night safe too? Or would we need to cab it? Is it girl friendly, extra charge?

Thanks for the help guys.[/QUOTE]Never stayed there but a buddy stayed at Central Plaza. The hotels you mentioned are okay too (I checked them all) but I would stay at CP if I were to do what you are. Those hotels have a TV, bed and bath but not much else. The rooms are clean and very small, they are good for bringing back La Mayorista hookers. They are just around the corner (50 yards) from La Mayorista strip.

LM is a small strip of bars, ST hotels (decent to shitty) and restaurants, it is fun when it gets busy. On a good night maybe there are 30 to 50 hookers working the strip. In the day time it's a ghost town, maybe one or two stragglers are working. That has been my experience visiting my buddy a few times during the day. The best times on LM are on the weekends after 9 or 10 pm.

They used to have chairs on the wide sidewalk but the police put a stop to that a couple of years ago. The mongers are Colombianos and the occasional gringo. I would not want to resemble a lily white computer geek on La Mayorista, but that's just me.

I have enjoyed some of the most beautiful women in Medellin there but w / the beauties come uncertainties about age. For me La Mayorista is close to the edge of civilization, it's all about one thing. There is a lot of pressure for young Colombianas to work this entry area of the trade so beware! On the weekends is when it's got the most potential and coincidently school is out on the weekends.

Also La Mayorista is at one end of town, the last metro stop. So everything else will that much farther away I / e El Centro which to me might also be a good place for you to do your thing. Taxis are cheap so you might consider staying more centrally located. But your original plan ain't bad for working the hookers of La Mayorista. Be careful, and stay away from the police wandering around. Sitting in the open faced bars downing a cold one, watching the scene is a favorite of mine when in Meddy.

[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g2079011-d2096230-Reviews-Hotel_Central_Plaza-Itagui_Antioquia_Department.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Socker;1703241]Never stayed there but a buddy stayed at Central Plaza. The hotels you mentioned are okay too (I checked them all) but I would stay at CP if I were to do what you are. Those hotels have a TV, bed and bath but not much else. The rooms are clean and very small, they are good for bringing back La Mayorista hookers. They are just around the corner (50 yards) from La Mayorista strip.

LM is a small strip of bars, ST hotels (decent to shitty) and restaurants, it is fun when it gets busy. On a good night maybe there are 30 to 50 hookers working the strip. In the day time it's a ghost town, maybe one or two stragglers are working. That has been my experience visiting my buddy a few times during the day. The best times on LM are on the weekends after 9 or 10 pm.

They used to have chairs on the wide sidewalk but the police put a stop to that a couple of years ago. The mongers are Colombianos and the occasional gringo. I would not want to resemble a lily white computer geek on La Mayorista, but that's just me.

I have enjoyed some of the most beautiful women in Medellin there but w / the beauties come uncertainties about age. For me La Mayorista is close to the edge of civilization, it's all about one thing. There is a lot of pressure for young Colombianas to work this entry area of the trade so beware! On the weekends is when it's got the most potential and coincidently school is out on the weekends.

Also La Mayorista is at one end of town, the last metro stop. So everything else will that much farther away I / e El Centro which to me might also be a good place for you to do your thing. Taxis are cheap so you might consider staying more centrally located. But your original plan ain't bad for working the hookers of La Mayorista. Be careful, and stay away from the police wandering around. Sitting in the open faced bars downing a cold one, watching the scene is a favorite of mine when in Meddy.

[URL]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g2079011-d2096230-Reviews-Hotel_Central_Plaza-Itagui_Antioquia_Department.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Not trying to nitpick, but I'd hate to see a guy get off at the last stop, and think he was near Mayorista. The Mayorista stop is at Ayura, and after that is Envigado, and then the last stop is Itagui.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1701127]She's OG for sure! LOL.

She was around during my 1st visit some 5&1/2 yrs ago.

Still cute I must say.[/QUOTE]She is a wonderful girl.

Just have a little patience and be forceful in your directives you give, they are used to that, being nice = being weak and that barriogirls exploit instantly, always with a conflict as a consequence.

5 1/2 years ago: then she must have been barely legal -she says she is 23 yo now, started early in the business.

ISG Guys; Remember law; buying sexual services are 100% legal if both parties agree.

But it is 100% a crime if she is under 18 yo.

Too many barrio girls are 15-16-17 when selling sex to foreigners.

The risk for you is very low, but ending up in a Colombian jail as a sexcriminal. That's Worse Than Hell.

Always ask for seeédula.

I have not done that myself, but I should have.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1703448]Not trying to nitpick, but I'd hate to see a guy get off at the last stop, and think he was near Mayorista. The Mayorista stop is at Ayura, and after that is Envigado, and then the last stop is Itagui.[/QUOTE]Thanks Johnny, I thought it was the last stop. Just trying to help. This usually ends up being a mistake.

If you need hand holdin' then go to the mansion. But if your a grown ass man then be adventurous and stay in el centro. There are some hotels near el estadio metro to that are good too. El estadio has a nice strip of bars where locals hangout. Some working girls do hang out there. If they approach you and are super friendly then they are working. If you stay by la mayorista, I would just stay there Friday Saturday and then stay somewhere else the rest of the time. Medellin is very easy to get around by taxi or metro. Most of the Casa scene is very concentrated in downtown Med with a few being a short taxi ride away. I here you can use Uber now too. Which I would use late night. Look at the Google Casa map and you'll see it's really not that bad to get around. Def get a smart phone with GPS so you explorer efficiently. I'm going in mid May for some dirt. LOL. Pm me if you have any question. I've been there 4 times so I kinda know what the deal is. LOL.

[QUOTE=BoredInIN;1702447]Hey guys, I was looking for some insight for a place to stay. I tried reading through the forum and think I've narrowed in down but this being my first trip it's tough because I don't really know the lay of the land. Coming with a wingman, we have some mongering experience in the DR but this is our first Medellin trip. We like the action, the hunt and clubs. So we are thinking we want to stay close to Mayorista. It seems to be the 2 options here are Macedonia plaza and Alcaravan. These places are close enough to the action where we would just be able to pick up girls and walk back is that correct? From what I understand these hotels are decent but basic, no AC which is a bummer, is one better than the other? Is there a better option in the area?

The no AC might be a deal breaker for my friend so Hotel lleras 10 looks nice but further away. Is it a walk you would make with a girl during the day? And at night safe too? Or would we need to cab it? Is it girl friendly, extra charge?

Thanks for the help guys.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1703448]Not trying to nitpick, but I'd hate to see a guy get off at the last stop, and think he was near Mayorista. The Mayorista stop is at Ayura, and after that is Envigado, and then the last stop is Itagui.[/QUOTE]Actually the last stop on the southern end of the metro line is La Estrella, only mentioning because I happened to be there this weekend and took the train.

Had a solid wee[blue][b]Arrest/Incarceration/Release Report deleted by Admin[/b][/blue]k in El Centro two days in a row last week, hitting casa after casa with a couple different friends on different days, and all of us were well satisfied. It's always fun to take a friend around that is visiting for the first time, they're like a kid in a candy store! In the group we have all different tastes, and yet we all found several to suit each of us. I had a thin little blonde on only her second day in this business, as confirmed independently with the dueno of the casa. Beautiful face, light eyes, be-cup titties with great mouth and teeth. I got her number and intend to take her outside the casa a few times so will keep her to myself for now.

On a bit of a down note, one observation we made was the signs popping up in many of the casas warning patrons that to view the lineup will cost 3-5 K pesos depending on the casa. What's worse, some of the signs are in English which tells me the problem browsers are likely foreigners. More disturbing than the trivial amount being charged is the trend. I'm just guessing, but it seems the gringo business (or trouble) is not as appreciated as most gringos would like to believe. The good news is the problem will take care of itself, because Colombia is for Colombians and they will remind an asshole of that if he needs it.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1703465]She is a wonderful girl.

Just have a little patience and be forceful in your directives you give, they are used to that, being nice = being weak and that barriogirls exploit instantly, always with a conflict as a consequence.

5 1/2 years ago: then she must have been barely legal -she says she is 23 yo now, started early in the business.

ISG Guys; Remember law; buying sexual services are 100% legal if both parties agree.

But it is 100% a crime if she is under 18 yo.

Too many barrio girls are 15-16-17 when selling sex to foreigners.

The risk for you is very low, but ending up in a Colombian jail as a sexcriminal. That's Worse Than Hell.

Always ask for seedula.

I have not done that myself, but I should have.[/QUOTEAge of Consent vs Age of Majority]I thought the age of consent was 16?

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Greetings Gentlemen,

The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.

What you need to focus on is the [u]Age of Majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.

Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1700950]This is sick shit.[/QUOTE]Glad you made that point. The high road is where members should stay.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1703559]only her second day in this business, as confirmed [B][I]independently[/I][/B] with the dueno of the casa..[/QUOTE]BWAAH ha ha ha ha!

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1703694]BWAAH ha ha ha ha![/QUOTE]Hehe, that's right you crusty old fuck. Every chica in the biz has had a second day on the job, not that it's too important to me, I only mention it because it's rare or lucky to be there that day. My buddy and I had already finished and were having beers in the waiting room while we waited for the third guy in our party to wrap up his session. My friend knows the dueno, who is proud of his lineup and the fact that business has been cranking, boasting of his ability to get the best girls, and adding without being prompted that mine was on her second day, while the chica was out back with her next client. No, I wasn't skeptical enough or thinking of marrying her, to buy a background report like somebody as yourself might do.

I suppose I might feel more like you if I had been robbed several times in Medellin, and since then relegated to paying 3 x as much in Costa Rica aka Amateur Hour for hardened pros, but you should try and think positive. You might even find a friend to take you to these places, or watch your back at times so you don't get jacked so frequently.

Seriously, 2600 posts and you now live in Costa Rica as a monger? That's comical!

Delta starts Atlanta to Medellin and Cartagena in December.

It was a very difficult decision to make between going to the DR or to Colombia. Eventually decided on Medellin which I hadn't visited since July last year. Colombia used to be my undisputed choice between the two but the DR has grown on me for a number of reasons which I would not go into now. I'm staying in Poblado so my trip is going to be a little more expensive than last years.

Decided to begin with New Life. Entered and the capitan directed me to my seat, grabbed a beer and waited for the lineup as were a lot of other hobbyists. A word of caution I don't think mongers should gab about how cheap it is at NL or for that matter any similar casa. I'm sure some employees can understand English and the next thing you know they may start charging foreigners more than locals like they do in China. Some of us foreigners are on a budget and just wish to pay the reasonable fare which I'm sure the casa owners are quite capable of setting. Furthermore I do tip for exceptional service as I am occasionally quite demanding. I do not tip for average or poor service.

Anyway, the lineup was presented in the following order-.

Joanna.

Sammi.

Vanessa.

Jessica.

Isabella.

Melanie.

Gina (who I sampled last year).

Martina.

Surianna (I did not quite get her name).

Christina, and.

Fernanda.

A solid lineup no doubt. I chose Martina who had greeted me quite friendly with a broad smile. Dark skinned, great ass and bolt ONS. Off to the habitacion and off with the ropas. When I motioned for DFK she suggested a propina which I was not too happy about and did not go through with it. Started with CBJ which I am only now beginning to appreciate after three years of not having visited Asia where BBBJ is the norm. Then we went into my usual sequence of positions ending with her on her back with legs on my shoulder. (One of my favorite Romantic songs is by Paul Anka – "Put Your Legs On My shoulder" She executed the sequence with gusto so I ended up giving her a small propina after all. My session was over half an hour but under an hour. My next visit will be to casa Energia.

Thanks for the report, enjoyed it. New Life is all in all a good spot. My least favorite thing is it is almost always full of groups of foreigners. The good news it doesn't matter because there are so many other places.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1704043]It was a very difficult decision to make between going to the DR or to Colombia. Eventually decided on Medellin which I hadn't visited since July last year. Colombia used to be my undisputed choice between the two but the DR has grown on me for a number of reasons which I would not go into now. I'm staying in Poblado so my trip is going to be a little more expensive than last years.

Decided to begin with New Life. Entered and the capitan directed me to my seat, grabbed a beer and waited for the lineup as were a lot of other hobbyists. A word of caution I don't think mongers should gab about how cheap it is at NL or for that matter any similar casa. I'm sure some employees can understand English and the next thing you know they may start charging foreigners more than locals like they do in China. Some of us foreigners are on a budget and just wish to pay the reasonable fare which I'm sure the casa owners are quite capable of setting. Furthermore I do tip for exceptional service as I am occasionally quite demanding. I do not tip for average or poor service..[/QUOTE]

Damn dude! How you going to blast the chicas names like that. LOL.

This makes the newdudes on this forum lazy.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1704043]It was a very difficult decision to make between going to the DR or to Colombia. Eventually decided on Medellin which I hadn't visited since July last year. Colombia used to be my undisputed choice between the two but the DR has grown on me for a number of reasons which I would not go into now. I'm staying in Poblado so my trip is going to be a little more expensive than last years.

Decided to begin with New Life. Entered and the capitan directed me to my seat, grabbed a beer and waited for the lineup as were a lot of other hobbyists. A word of caution I don't think mongers should gab about how cheap it is at NL or for that matter any similar casa. I'm sure some employees can understand English and the next thing you know they may start charging foreigners more than locals like they do in China. Some of us foreigners are on a budget and just wish to pay the reasonable fare which I'm sure the casa owners are quite capable of setting. Furthermore I do tip for exceptional service as I am occasionally quite demanding. I do not tip for average or poor service.

Anyway, the lineup was presented in the following order-.

Joanna.

Sammi.

Vanessa.

Jessica.

Isabella.

Melanie.

Gina (who I sampled last year).

Martina.

Surianna (I did not quite get her name).

Christina, and.

Fernanda.

A solid lineup no doubt. I chose Martina who had greeted me quite friendly with a broad smile. Dark skinned, great ass and bolt ONS. Off to the habitacion and off with the ropas. When I motioned for DFK she suggested a propina which I was not too happy about and did not go through with it. Started with CBJ which I am only now beginning to appreciate after three years of not having visited Asia where BBBJ is the norm. Then we went into my usual sequence of positions ending with her on her back with legs on my shoulder. (One of my favorite Romantic songs is by Paul Anka "Put Your Legs On My shoulder" She executed the sequence with gusto so I ended up giving her a small propina after all. My session was over half an hour but under an hour. My next visit will be to casa Energia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1704012]Delta starts Atlanta to Medellin and Cartagena in December.[/QUOTE]That is great news! But enjoy Medellin while we can because it will soon be overrun.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1704119]Damn dude! How you going to blast the chicas names like that. LOL. This makes the newdudes on this forum lazy.[/QUOTE]My question is how was he able to remember all these names. When I visit NL, I can barely remember the names of the girls that look interesting to me, let along the other girls in the lineup. Quite a memory there.

Wow you must have been there around the same time as I was because I recognize 3 women in that video that I had sex with. FYI the girls charge 20-25 and the rooms are 10, so you will be paying about as much as you would at a regular cheap casa but without the layer of safety. Most (if not all) of those girls have knives on them and will not hesitate to rob / scam you once you are in the hotel room. I don't recommend that area to anyone but the most hardcore monger. Especially after dark that area gets really ugly with strung out drug addicts and glue huffers.

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1700466]Street Scene Near centro Museum Antioquia and Parque Botero-I stumbled across this youtube hidden cam video of the street scene. I think it gives one a pretty good what that is all about.

Room + gal for 15-30 minutes can be as cheap as 15,000 cop, but do not expect clean sheets. This is not my thing but it is worth knowing about; much like Tijuana's alley.

https://youtu.be/Rdp6HbcdhhE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1704123]That is great news! But enjoy Medellin while we can because it will soon be overrun.[/QUOTE]I think you are correct, and the writing is already on the wall. For example, Zandaly had a black girl running the front desk / bar last time we were there, and after ordering beers that were too warm to drink and seeing the lineup, she had the nerve to go full court press on a viewing fee! I think this place is one of the casas I was referring to recently that has a sign when you walk in posting the fee for viewing. Must be too many gringos going into these places like Rodney Dangerfield in the movie Easy Money with Joe Pesci, "just browsing". Maybe I'm wrong, but I really get the feeling gringos are wearing out their welcome, and I'm sure some here will take that as an opportunity to push it further over the cliff. All great places turn for the worst over time, no reason we should think MDE will be any different.

The good news is that MDE has some of the prettiest and most friendly girls of anyplace I've ever lived or visited. For those willing to learn Spanish and are not afraid to mix it up, discovering non-pro or "amigos con derechos" situations will still be possible. Some of the better sex comes from these setups as well.

Yes. El centro is not safe for the gringo at night. My suggestion is to have a taxi driver you can trust and drive around the area and pic the chicas from the taxi. I'm brown and walking at night still is risky for me.

[QUOTE=Chilller;1704173]Wow you must have been there around the same time as I was because I recognize 3 women in that video that I had sex with. FYI the girls charge 20-25 and the rooms are 10, so you will be paying about as much as you would at a regular cheap casa but without the layer of safety. Most (if not all) of those girls have knives on them and will not hesitate to rob / scam you once you are in the hotel room. I don't recommend that area to anyone but the most hardcore monger. Especially after dark that area gets really ugly with strung out drug addicts and glue huffers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1704148]My question is how was he able to remember all these names. When I visit NL, I can barely remember the names of the girls that look interesting to me, let along the other girls in the lineup. Quite a memory there.[/QUOTE]LOL pen and paper. My memory ain't that good. I rated each chica then and there. I went with my second highest rated chica. Gina was my top rater but I went with her last year. I didn't post my ratings because its subjective and others may not agree.

Is there any statistical evidence suggesting that a direct flight increases tourism in destination? I thought the influence was in inverse causality- "after" a tourism in a city significantly expands, flight company begins a direct flight.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1704123]That is great news! But enjoy Medellin while we can because it will soon be overrun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1704296]Is there any statistical evidence suggesting that a direct flight increases tourism in destination? I thought the influence was in inverse causality- "after" a tourism in a city significantly expands, flight company begins a direct flight.[/QUOTE]I expect the airline will be advertising Medellin as a tourist destination. But yes your point is makes sense as well. Either way the bottom line is that Medellin is going to have more and more American tourists year after year which I don't consider to be a positive development.

Seriously! Medellin will not be the same. Higher prices and crapy service.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1704123]That is great news! But enjoy Medellin while we can because it will soon be overrun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1704366]Seriously! Medellin will not be the same. Higher prices and crapy service.[/QUOTE]Not true at all. Most people on any flight to Colombia are Colombians. When have you ever heard your neighbors discussing going to Colombia and Medellin in particular for vacation?

Ok. Maybe just a little then. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1704389]Not true at all. Most people on any flight to Colombia are Colombians. When have you ever heard your neighbors discussing going to Colombia and Medellin in particular for vacation?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1704311]I expect the airline will be advertising Medellin as a tourist destination. But yes your point is makes sense as well. Either way the bottom line is that Medellin is going to have more and more American tourists year after year which I don't consider to be a positive development.[/QUOTE]I can remember this same topic being discussed 10 plus years ago.

The tourists are coming, the tourists are coming.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1704366]Seriously! Medellin will not be the same. Higher prices and crapy service.[/QUOTE]Yep. Sounds about right.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1704389]Not true at all. Most people on any flight to Colombia are Colombians. When have you ever heard your neighbors discussing going to Colombia and Medellin in particular for vacation?[/QUOTE]You are correct, and also business people. I fly the non-stop flight from Atlanta to Bogota when traveling to Colombia, and I mainly see Colombians and business people. Actually the gringos on these flights is usually around the 20% level, and the majority of those seem to be business people. I am quite sure the Atlanta-Medellin flight will be very similar. It only makes sense that with Colombia become more open to business opportunities and foreign investment, that the amount of direct flights from a very international airport like Atlanta's would increase. I'm quite sure its not linked to tourism.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1704123]But enjoy Medellin while we can because it will soon be overrun.[/QUOTE]Atlanta is Delta's major international hub. With the new planes that can fly further, airlines gain by direct flights than stop overs. They do not have to pay airport fees at the stop over airports and less fuel is wasted as a lot is burned at take off and landings. You will not see any major change in the tourists that visit Medellin. It would be business as usual.

As one person was saying before, watch out for minors. In my experience you don't have to ask for ID because they will tell you if you ask. I was downtown one night and saw a girl wearing Minnie Mouse clothes and a bow in her hair. I told my wingman there is no way that chick is 18, just by her clothes alone. I went up and asked and she said she was 15. Then all her friends (who were older, probably in their 30s) starting taunting me asking if I was scared. I said hell yeah I'm scared. I'm not doing anything that would put me in anybody's jail.

[URL]http://www.latintravelvip.com/national-police-close-medellin-venues/[/URL]

What's with all these new posters predicting doom and gloom in Medellin. Just because of a direct flight? FYI, there were predictions that it would get overrun by gringos like Costa Rica. Didn't happen. There were plenty of daily direct flights to Medellin from New York a while back via Avianca. In the $400 range. And there are plenty of Medellin punters from the NY metro area. You guessed it, no noticable change. In fact, they had to cut flights and raise prices. Probably because of low demand.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1704767]What's with all these new posters predicting doom and gloom in Medellin. Just because of a direct flight? FYI, there were predictions that it would get overrun by gringos like Costa Rica. Didn't happen. There were plenty of daily direct flights to Medellin from New York a while back via Avianca. In the $400 range. And there are plenty of Medellin punters from the NY metro area. You guessed it, no noticable change. In fact, they had to cut flights and raise prices. Probably because of low demand.[/QUOTE]I sent this response to a Vet/Mentor I speak to often via the back channel (off the forum).

We all know the undercurrent theme of these posts. I'll be the one to just go ahead and put it out there: many on here are afraid of a "Weekend Baller" invasion. The kind that a very much prevalent on the strip in Sosua.

I told my friend that I do not believe direct flights from Atlanta will alter anything in Medellin:

(This conversation is from one "brotha" to another)

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I don't see it happening. If that was the case, those NY Cats would have long flooded the scene.

A few other things:

1) Medellin is full blown Spanish time. Most guys don't even know elementary Spanish. Sosua is mongering on training wheels, which is why it is so appealing to most.

2) There is no Sosua type setup in Medellin. Maybe in Mayorista, but I doubt dudes could figure out how to get there, let alone navigate the scene. Also, there are only so many rooms at the Mansion. These dudes like to travel in packs, and knowing that one of their boys may not be able to find a room unsettles them. Their only other option are hotels or apartments. 99.9% of hotels in Medellin are not guest friendly, leaving apartments as the final option. Drop these dudes off in Laureles and they will think you just dropped them off in the middle of Kansas.

3) Medellin is not cheap. It would explode most of these dudes budgets who are used to $40 rooms in Sosua. They could pull a Mr. E and setup in $15 rooms at Love Motels in El Centro, but most of them would shit their pants in that area come nightfall. Plus they can't "make it rain" or flaunt their chains down there unless they want a gun in their face or a knife at their back.

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I'll add this: as I have said many time, Colombianos set the prices of the local market. Prices at Loutron, Fase Dos, and La Isla (whatever it is called now) are not that high because it is overrun by gringos. We are .05 percent of their patrons.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1704767]What's with all these new posters predicting doom and gloom in Medellin. Just because of a direct flight? FYI, there were predictions that it would get overrun by gringos like Costa Rica. Didn't happen. There were plenty of daily direct flights to Medellin from New York a while back via Avianca. In the $400 range. And there are plenty of Medellin punters from the NY metro area. You guessed it, no noticable change. In fact, they had to cut flights and raise prices. Probably because of low demand.[/QUOTE]Agreed. The average american is still scared to go to Colombia. Businessmen will always go, no matter what. Punters already have already long appreciated going to Medellin. That's not going to change.

Demand for tickets will stay the same, and the number of seats goes up, which means that prices will go DOWN.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1705232]
Demand for tickets will stay the same, and the number of seats goes up, which means that prices will go DOWN.[/QUOTE]Lately the trend for airlines has been to cut the number of flights, pack as many people as they can into one flight, and charge more.

All the posts are merely talking about their "estimates" based on self-serving logics and wishful-thinking. We need impersonal, statistical findings- ie. Percentages of increased and decreased tourism after introductions of 100 or 200 direct flights in the past.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1705232]Agreed. The average american is still scared to go to Colombia. Businessmen will always go, no matter what. Punters already have already long appreciated going to Medellin. That's not going to change.

Demand for tickets will stay the same, and the number of seats goes up, which means that prices will go DOWN.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1705375]All the posts are merely talking about their "estimates" based on self-serving logics and wishful-thinking. We need impersonal, statistical findings- ie. Percentages of increased and decreased tourisms after introductions of 100 or 200 direct flights in the past.

.[/QUOTE]Come on man, is it really that important that we need to gather statistical evidence?

Life goes on, enjoy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1704765]As one person was saying before, watch out for minors. In my experience you don't have to ask for ID because they will tell you if you ask. I was downtown one night and saw a girl wearing Minnie Mouse clothes and a bow in her hair. I told my wingman there is no way that chick is 18, just by her clothes alone. I went up and asked and she said she was 15. Then all her friends (who were older, probably in their 30s) starting taunting me asking if I was scared. I said hell yeah I'm scared. I'm not doing anything that would put me in anybody's jail.

[URL]http://www.latintravelvip.com/national-police-close-medellin-venues/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yikes I'll be in Medellin the 29th of May until June 7th and I hope the hotel I will be staying in isn't shut down according to the report dated 4/7/15. It's the one located between the museum and the church adjacent to Botero Plaza which I have stayed at in the past. Very dicey at night but fortunately I can pass for a Colombian.

I said that we need to see statistical findings. I didn't say that ISG members must gather statistics and report findings. Mere speculations without objective indicators are useless for this kind of topics.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1705403]Come on man, is it really that important that we need to gather statistical evidence?

Life goes on, enjoy.[/QUOTE]

After spending a couple months in Medellin I just want to write up a trip report for any guys making their first trip and looking for a general guide. As for all you old curmudgeons that just hang out on this forum to proof read, criticize and debate every little topic please just ignore this post because I'm not into all the back and forth.

Regarding lodging I stayed in both El Poblado and in Laureles and I liked both equally well. Both areas felt perfectly safe to me both day and night. El Poblado has more shopping and more of a business district while Laureles felt more like a very hip neighborhood in a big city with many outdoor food & drink places. When I return I'll probably again split my time between these two areas. I didn't pick up any chicas off the streets or the bars in either area either because my tastes are too fussy or because I didn't stay out really late at night when there are likely more chicas looking to make some silver (plata is the Paisa word most often used for money).

I started with the strip clubs because "I love strip clubs!" As I stated in an earlier report the only Medellin strip club I found worth visiting is Fase Dos. The nice thing about the clubs is you can drink and chat with all the girls which is what I like to do. Even with my beginner level Spanish. When you get that feeling that you're ready for action and you've found the right girl you just let her know you want to go next door to South Beach. The total cost for girl and room is 180 mil or about $72 USA Today for an hour or "until you finish". The goal therefore is to make the phone ring after one hour. If you need to buy a condom it'll cost you 5 mil. Get used to using the word "mil" for thousand. From my experience it's best to visit the strip clubs after midnight. Face Dos is jammed and the best looking chicas are working then. After my session I usually worked up an appetite and there's a great little outdoor food counter right there along the sidewalk. Lots more folks to interact with again.

Unfortunately in Medellin there appear to be no classy bars or clubs (like in Panama) where dozens of hot and sexy dressed up girls just stare at you as you walk in the door and want to go back to your hotel room. The cost in Panama is more but well worth it to me. Anyhow back to Medellin there are some seedy little bars / strip clubs with rooms above or behind the bar for pretty cheap. I don't remember the exact cost because each chica negotiates their price. But I'm thinking it was like 100 mil for 30 minutes or 120 mil for one hour. Find these places on the well known "casa map". They are marked with wine or champagne glasses in the el centro area of Medellin. I did these places only because the guys I hung with loved these seedy joints. Oh and maybe because I like a good drinking party.

For me the highlight of Medellin was the casas. I would recommend making a visit to Casa Loutron on top of the hill just for the views. I went up twice and only planned on doing business if a chica was worth their high price. Didn't find more than a solid 8 working here on either visit so just had one expensive beer and back down the hill. Still never any regrets going up here. The second nicest casa is Relajacion Corporal Energy next to the soccer stadium. The rooms here are REALLY nice. But my experience is that the girls are overly experienced and sorta hardened. I don't recall the exact price here but it seemed fair for really nice place in a good neighborhood. Just wish they would have some more fresh girls. Or that they would maybe just act more fresh. I think the best time to visit Energy is early to mid afternoon on weekdays.

But when I return to Medellin I'll be going straight back to the el centro casas. This is where it's possible to find some younger and fresher girls with good attitudes. And the prices are amazingly cheap. Have a taxi drop you off near Parque Bolivar (pronounced Parkay Bow-LEE-var, you need to stress the LEE!) Pull up the casa map on your smartphone and start exploring the casas. They can be hard to find because apparently signage is not allowed. If you're exploring alone I'd try to start early like maybe noonish and finish by 3 PM or so. And I usually duck into a small business to pull out my smartphone. There a lot of "less fortunate than us" youths sharing the same streets here. No reason to name any individual casas because it's hit and miss from one day to the next. Just get out there and adventure!

I also visited the cave at the Mansion one night only because I didn't stay there. But I did stay with Colombia Jake ([URL]colombiajake.com[/URL]) a few nights when hotel rates were more expensive. I think either the Mansion or Jake is a good option for a first time visitor with limited days in town. With either option you will have immediate action your first night. Jake will also tour you in el centro on the casas and whatever else you are interested. He helped me get my phone going and with some other stuff too.

I also found a couple English speaking taxi drivers who helped me a lot. If anyone wants a driver name and number just PM me.

Great info bro. I found face dos is more like the American stripclub only difference is that you can get down the the stripper. The chicas at fade dos are all tall too. The new guys to medellin will def appreciate you report. I can't wait to go in May.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1705465]After spending a couple months in Medellin I just want to write up a trip report for any guys making their first trip and looking for a general guide. As for all you old curmudgeons that just hang out on this forum to proof read, criticize and debate every little topic please just ignore this post because I'm not into all the back and forth.

Regarding lodging I stayed in both El Poblado and in Laureles and I liked both equally well. Both areas felt perfectly safe to me both day and night. El Poblado has more shopping and more of a business district while Laureles felt more like a very hip neighborhood in a big city with many outdoor food & drink places. When I return I'll probably again split my time between these two areas. I didn't pick up any chicas off the streets or the bars in either area either because my tastes are too fussy or because I didn't stay out really late at night when there are likely more chicas looking to make some silver (plata is the Paisa word most often used for money).

I started with the strip clubs because "I love strip clubs!" As I stated in an earlier report the only Medellin strip club I found worth visiting is Fase Dos. The nice thing about the clubs is you can drink and chat with all the girls which is what I like to do. Even with my beginner level Spanish. When you get that feeling that you're ready for action and you've found the right girl you just let her know you want to go next door to South Beach. The total cost for girl and room is 180 mil or about $72 USA Today for an hour or "until you finish". The goal therefore is to make the phone ring after one hour. If you need to buy a condom it'll cost you 5 mil. Get used to using the word "mil" for thousand. From my experience it's best to visit the strip clubs after midnight. Face Dos is jammed and the best looking chicas are working then. After my session I usually worked up an appetite and there's a great little outdoor food counter right there along the sidewalk. Lots more folks to interact with again.

Unfortunately in Medellin there appear to be no classy bars or clubs (like in Panama) where dozens of hot and sexy dressed up girls just stare at you as you walk in the door and want to go back to your hotel room. The cost in Panama is more but well worth it to me. Anyhow back to Medellin there are some seedy little bars / strip clubs with rooms above or behind the bar for pretty cheap. I don't remember the exact cost because each chica negotiates their price. But I'm thinking it was like 100 mil for 30 minutes or 120 mil for one hour. Find these places on the well known "casa map". They are marked with wine or champagne glasses in the el centro area of Medellin. I did these places only because the guys I hung with loved these seedy joints. Oh and maybe because I like a good drinking party.

For me the highlight of Medellin was the casas. I would recommend making a visit to Casa Loutron on top of the hill just for the views. I went up twice and only planned on doing business if a chica was worth their high price. Didn't find more than a solid 8 working here on either visit so just had one expensive beer and back down the hill. Still never any regrets going up here. The second nicest casa is Relajacion Corporal Energy next to the soccer stadium. The rooms here are REALLY nice. But my experience is that the girls are overly experienced and sorta hardened. I don't recall the exact price here but it seemed fair for really nice place in a good neighborhood. Just wish they would have some more fresh girls. Or that they would maybe just act more fresh. I think the best time to visit Energy is early to mid afternoon on weekdays.

But when I return to Medellin I'll be going straight back to the el centro casas. This is where it's possible to find some younger and fresher girls with good attitudes. And the prices are amazingly cheap. Have a taxi drop you off near Parque Bolivar (pronounced Parkay Bow-LEE-var, you need to stress the LEE!) Pull up the casa map on your smartphone and start exploring the casas. They can be hard to find because apparently signage is not allowed. If you're exploring alone I'd try to start early like maybe noonish and finish by 3 PM or so. And I usually duck into a small business to pull out my smartphone. There a lot of "less fortunate than us" youths sharing the same streets here. No reason to name any individual casas because it's hit and miss from one day to the next. Just get out there and adventure!

I also visited the cave at the Mansion one night only because I didn't stay there. But I did stay with Colombia Jake ([URL]colombiajake.com[/URL]) a few nights when hotel rates were more expensive. I think either the Mansion or Jake is a good option for a first time visitor with limited days in town. With either option you will have immediate action your first night. Jake will also tour you in el centro on the casas and whatever else you are interested. He helped me get my phone going and with some other stuff too.

I also found a couple English speaking taxi drivers who helped me a lot. If anyone wants a driver name and number just PM me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldParr;1705418]We need Reefski back posting. Matty boy please consider taking a time out as you really do need it, with your idiotic postings with statistics and such. You are making yourself look like a fool, seriously.[/QUOTE]Haha are you really serious? You are very good at impersonating a douchy moron. Please take a paus from acting like a *******.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1704765]As one person was saying before, watch out for minors. In my experience you don't have to ask for ID because they will tell you if you ask. I was downtown one night and saw a girl wearing Minnie Mouse clothes and a bow in her hair. I told my wingman there is no way that chick is 18, just by her clothes alone. I went up and asked and she said she was 15. Then all her friends (who were older, probably in their 30s) starting taunting me asking if I was scared. I said hell yeah I'm scared. I'm not doing anything that would put me in anybody's jail.

[URL]http://www.latintravelvip.com/national-police-close-medellin-venues/[/URL][/QUOTE]The BS to all this Brothel to the World is that the area is IMHO having lived in el centro for 6 months of each of the past 5 years is +99% Colombianos partaking in delights of the area. The Argentine guy who made the documentary film portrayed MDE as another BKK or Amsterdam filled with foreign sex tourists which is total BS. Under 18 chicas is a another issue and should have been dealt with by the police long ago.

This is mostly a FFF (Fu*king Facebook Friends) trip. I arrived last Friday April 3. It was the week of semana Santa. But I had no problem. I already contacted a dependable friend. We were on WhatsApp until the plane left New York. She stayed whole night, so the start was very good.

I was flying solo on this trip. So there was no point of spending lots of money for lodging. I am staying in an Apartment hotel, two blocks from Parque Ileras. I stayed here many times before. Staffs treat me like family and cater to my needs. I am paying $63 USD per night including all taxes plus free breakfast.

I had mixed experiences with the Facebook friends. Some are very good and stayed the whole night. Some came for couple of hours and gave good service. And some were flaky, cancelled at the last moment without sending even a message.

A weird thing I noticed about these FB friends. Most of their mothers are suffering from Diabetes. One girl even sent me the picture of her mother from the hospital to prove in her words "Soy no mentirosa". I am beginning to feel that all of them have the same mother.

Now to the interesting part of the report. The La Isla story (they now call the place The Girls. I hardly saw a sign of La Isla there, except one on the bar. I was there before, so I recognized the place).

It was Wednesday April 8. One FB friend was supposed to meet me at 4 PM at my apartment. She sent me a message at FB and later called to confirm that she will be at my apartment at 6 PM due to some unanticipated business (probably other appointment was running overtime). I waited, but she was a no show. I sent her a message at FB, no answer. Called her cellular several times, it was turned off. So I decided to take the matter on my own hand and explore La Isla. After couple of hours in the Casino (this time I had lots of good luck at the Casino), I arrived at La Isla around 11 PM. The reason I went there is mainly to collect phone numbers for the next day encounter at my apartment. I never like onsite sex. Anyway, the place was dead. It started to fill up by 1 AM. But by that time I was out of lot of money paying each dancer 2000 K for their dance. I was really not enjoying the dance, because all of them (99%) had bolt on and that is for me is a big turn off. Anyway, around 1:30 AM I decided to leave. I exchanged phone numbers with one girl, but at the end it fell off. She was asking for a lot of money. There was only one other girl I was very interested. She was standing next to me, but talking to another guy. I could not even talk to her. I was about to leave, suddenly one girl approached me for the propina for her dance. I took a double take. She was not only very beautiful, but had a spectacular figure. Tall and not a single ounce of extra fat. Very model like figure. And most importantly she had natural breast. I said I ran out of money, but I could see her next day at my apartment. She just surprised me by saying that she can come to my apartment right now. I told her that I will not pay any "multa". She told me not to worry about it. She told me to leave and she will follow me in another taxi. I told her that I am going to pay 200 K and she accepted. She went to change and my luck turned for the better. I saw the girl I liked, now standing alone next to me. I quickly introduced myself and exchanged the phone numbers. We were both in a hurry, because our window of opportunity was limited, since both of our dates were using the bathroom. Most of these dates do not pan out ultimately. But this one will, because she already called me today. I cannot wait to meet her.

Getting back to my date tonight. We arrived at our apartment around 2:30 AM. She told me that she is working at La Isla, twice a week, for last 7 months. She is finishing up a diploma in Dentistry. I have been with many girls and I don't remember when was the last time I saw such a toned body. She confirmed that she spends in Gym 2-3 hours, several times a week. As I said, she was quite a model like. We did everything, BBBJ, DFK, several positions, except anal. Excellent performance. But for me it was a notch below true GFE. Though she tried. Most importantly, she was very honest. Never asked for a propina or taxi fare. She left after two hours and I had a very good sleep, completely missing the hotel breakfast cut off time.

Bandy.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1705465]After spending a couple months in Medellin I just want to write up a trip report for any guys making their first trip and looking for a general guide. As for all you old curmudgeons that just hang out on this forum to proof read, criticize and debate every little topic please just ignore this post because I'm not into all the back and forth.

[/QUOTE]Thanks VCG!

Nice report to help out new guys!

[QUOTE=OldParr;1705418]We need Reefski back posting. Matty boy please consider taking a time out as you really do need it, with your idiotic postings with statistics and such. You are making yourself look like a fool, seriously.[/QUOTE]I miss Reefski's posts as well!! I know him personally, great guy! He got ISG banned for some reason I can't recall.

I usually enjoy Matt P's posts too, just IMO getting too analytical about tourism and future gringo tourism, on this site anyway.

More of a Chamber of Commerce study.

Anyway, looking forward to an upcoming trip to Medellin.

Cartagena for a few days, then to Medellin.

Trip report to follow.

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So I wrote a report and I'm still down here. I promised to update so here are some great detailed stories for you guys. Some pros, non, part time etc, Enjoy!

As time has gone on I have been able to pick up a lot of non pros. I spend half the money and get twice the love.

100 mil Natalia.

I was crossing the street heading to Santa Fe and saw this petite spinner that was tits on legs. She was crossing with me and I pretended to save her from getting run over. She got my joke and in about 2 minutes I said "Tienes whatsapp" listo! Natalia is her name which is the name of every other girl here. Her face was cute but sort of aging. She has braces but her positive attitude makes you not really see it. So we meet, for sushi & cinema. I'm soo happy that the movies here are in English with spanish subtitles. At the movies we make out like horny high schoolers. Despite her braces she is an excellent kisser. I try to grab at her huge tits but she sort of shines away. I head down south and I am met with the same resistance. Later it is revealed she suffered an accident from falling off a horse recently and has stitches on her stomach and one on her nipple. I thought it was bullshit but the band aids and bruises confirmed it. I understood she wasn't totally comfortable that night so I took a rain check. About a week later I showed up at her shotty one bedroom in Itugal to cash in my rain check. Her bright pink couch was matched by her bright pink lamp and bright pink blouse. I could care less about the Decor I just wanted her bright pink pussy. I bought over a 6 pack of pilsen and by the time we were half way done, our clothes were half way off. She reveled her huge tits. Her light skin contrasted with her very very dark nipples. I could actually Only see and suck on one nipple as the other one was still covered with tape. We kept kissing deeper and deeper till I took of her neon green panties. It reveled a freshly shaved dark pussy. The black hole of pleasure was already soaked. I went in for a taste and within 5 minutes of French kissing her pussy she came. Her pussy was like a vice grip when she came. She had to rest 10 minutes to recover. Finally it was mine turn. Again with braces I was scared but let me tell you. She gave me the smoothest blowjobs I ever got. It was like her mouth was lined with silk. I can't explain it any other way. I wish she made me cum that way but she didn't. She asks for a condom and I quickly obliged. It took me about 3 minutes to get it all the way in. She was soo petite but also her pussy Hole is so low that I can only give her the tip really. Balls deep was very rare until she got on top. I could tell this was her favorite position. She was like an orgasm factory. I thought it was bullshit but this horny paisa just sat on my dick, would ride for 5 minutes then cum. Rest, ride, rest, repeat. She got hers it was time for me to get mine. The condom was drying off so I yanked it off. She finished me off with a BJ & handjob combo. As I was cumming I aimed for the one tit but I managed to hit the bandaged covered tit. Oops:. Wow she got really upset after that. It took her 45 minutes and painful pealing of the adhesive bandage to get a new one on. After she calmed down, we went for fruita and I got my cracker ass out of her semi dangerous hood in igutal.

300 mil + 100 room Thalia.

I went to Farenheight to actually hear music, what I found was a clever rouge for a brothel moonlighting as a nightclub. I don't know what was funnier the fact that you can only order bottles of jack ONLY or how blatantly obvious the girls approach was. I have my paisa friend with me and he was chatting up some girls. I see this one in the distance. She was THE baddest * there. She had a goddess face, perfect plus twos and a stomach that was harder then sheetrock. I made my approach and told her to come to me, she wouldn't budge and said for me to come to her. I said meet me half way "media" she did. She knew she was the hottest thing there and it was going to cost me. She ask for 400 k right there. I say I want to get a drink get to know her etc. She was cool with that. I was trying to get the chemistry down. She was semi rushing me and I said 200 k. She said that's too cheap. She said we can go to Ibiza next door and she'll stay the rest of the night. She says 400, I say 300 and say "come on at least I'm a cute gringo" she smiles and "listo". I get the room at Ibiza. I get the gold room which was about 100 +25 for extra person for 6 hours. It's a nice room, has a jaccuzi, big beg etc. I wasn't buzzed enough so I get us drinks. She indicates to me that she is starving. Ok fine I'll order us food. She is soo fucking hot I don't give a fuck if she wants thanksgiving dinner at this point. Waiting for the food we do some making out. She is kissing but her tounge is reluctant. I tell her "Beso m como yo soy tu novio" she says that will cost more. Fuck me!! I'm not spending anymore. Finally food gets here, I feel like she wouldn't fuck until she was fed. Ok we eat, and now her breath is funky, before I can indicate she goes to the bathroom to brush her teeth (she has her toothbrush and toothpaste with her. Fuck I love how hygentic Colombians are, I see them after lunch in public bathrooms brushing their teeth) she closes the door. She is in there for 12 minutes. Which when your horny feels like 12 hours! I put on the TV, there's porn and its Johnny Sins having a 3 some with two flight attendants. As she comes out I point to the TV. Esta es la verdadera razand por la "germanwings" vuelo se estrell" she laughs super hard, and upon seeing her in her bra & panties I am super hard. Ok finally we get down to business, she gives me those half kisses then I remove that bra. Holy fuck these are the most perfect implants I have ever seen. They felt natural, my guess is she had nice tits but got them enhanced because fuck it. She smells amazing. I get off her panties and she revealed a small pussy with a tiny left labia hanging. It was almost like a dingleberry the way it hung there. She starts kissing everywhere else and makes her way to my Johnson. Ahh a BJ with no condom! Yes!! Thing is for some reason I'm not feeling the connection. She notices I'm not like super rock hard and then asks for a rubber. I roll my eyes and figure she wants to suck with it on or go straight for sex. She does neither. Instead she puts the condom on her fingers and then tries to shove her fingers in my asshole! WTF!! Oh hellzzz no!! I grip and say "what the fuck are you doing" she says "oh I think you'll like it" I explain nothing goes near my ass without my permission. She is like "lo siento lo siento" so now the vibe is sort of ehhh. I look at her face and it still turns me on. I get her laying down and start to explore her tight toned body. Her tits feel real I don't know how to explain it. As I'm licking and sucking her 1/2 inch errect nips I can see the disconnect in her eyes. We sort of stop then I explain I need that real girlfriend type for it to work. Then she hits me with "well I need 2 mm for that" ehhhhhh fuck. This Chica knows she's that hot and others will pay but not me. I go the bathroom, wash up. Take a shot of jack and sort of just play with her body a little. We have sex that's about as mechanical as c3 po. What a let down. These hot 10's always fuck like 2's I should know better by now. She sat around bored playing games on her Samsung Galaxy and I started browsing on reddit. She tried to give me a BJ but ehhhhhh wasn't really working. She asked for cab money and I had no problem. As she left she explained what's it's really like if I paid more and then she kissed me like for real for real! Holy fuck it was like I was lost at sea and she found me. Where the fuck was this one!! Adis! Taxi already on the way so fuck it good bye. I saved my money and jerked off to more porn on the 50 ich flat screen.

Diana 150 mil Independent from?

This ones funny. I had this girls # in my phone and I have no idea where I got it from! I just put her name in as Diana Medellin. I think I have like 100 + girls on my phone saved as.

" _ Medellin" I saw cute pic on whatsapp so I Perused. Our convo started off very innocent and.

Really dating like. A couple of days later she asks me about meeting but with her friend: then she says "how much would you pay" after this I realize she is a part timer from Bello who got lucky meeting a foreigner and wants to make some cash on the side. She says 500,000 k each. I'm like "are you out of your fucking mind" these girls they aren't like terrible looking but there like 20 and the rates they want narcos don't even pay that. I tell her how much for her alone. She says 500 mil. Yeah. No happening. She starts getting dramatic and I say "look I like you, let's meet for coffee and take it from there" she's reluctant at first. Takes her a few days then finally we meet. In person she is cute, not like falling over myself hot but enough to get me excited. I'm cool, we are kicking it. Eventually I tell her come to my place and I'll take care of her. She asks how much. I say 150. She tries to act insulted. I'm like "it's either that or the long way home back to bello and the metro isn't running now" she does another sigh. And says "and give me money for taxi" I agree. We get in the car and head back. Some light kissing in the car. Then she starts to get into it. She's actually a good kisser but I can tell a little shy. We get there, she makes a be line for the bathroom. She loves tubs and I happen to have one. Off comes her clothes right away. Like she takes them all off. It's awesome but also sort of anti climatic cause I wanted the first time I saw her naked for it to be me talking them off. We get into the tub and I explore her body. Fuck she has these pink perky puffy pointy tits. There not huge but very pronounced almost cone shaped. We dry off I get her on the bed I say "Quattro" she is soo fresh and clean I tounge her ass from behind. She reacts with a loud scream! Iiiiiiiiiii. Wow she is soo clean and into it. I venture down to her tight pussy and notice she has one very tiny labia and one long one that sticks out. I don't care that much but it's interesting, I go after her clit and she moans. I keep doing it and stick one finger in. We continue and then 5 minutes in she cums. I feel the contractions on my finger and it doesn't seem to stop! Finally it's my turn, she goes for my cock and just puts it in her mouth. No messing with the condom bullshit. I tell her to spit on it but she doesn't have enough salia and its like she is dry heaving on me. I turn her over, grab the rubber but before I rub my dick on her clit. She is scared at first but I explain in not putting it in just yet: after she is cool and then goes this reverse grind in the air and lifts her whole body towards me and sort of dances her clit on my dick. I put it in. Damn it's actually pretty deep. We do all the positions, she loves doggy the best and with her plump ass I don't mind at all. I finish in the rubber. She hangs in my place. I order food. We hang, bone again and then she gives me this nice long slow BJ to make up for the half ass one before. She winds up stays overnight and about 8 am and realizing how late it is. She had to get to the university!! She has to get home first. I tell her I'll get her a car. I request an uber and it's actually a driver I know. He is only 1 min away. I hand her the cash. She says "help me with taxi?" I say "I already did" I explain its paid or already. She is sort of upset. She keep asking for 50 k. I said its paid for. Anyway the driver takes her and I see on my phone the ride only cost me 22 k for her to get back to bello. I think she was trying to pocket the extra cash. I grab a quieso and sleep till the late afternoon.

80 k + 50 k tip Massage + happy ending.

I've been going to the gym everyday and I got really sore. I decide it's time for a real massage. I head to one I heard about is in the mall. I get there it's 80 k for the hour. This is a real McCoy, not that 5 minute oil bullshit that feels like a a tickle. The gal there is about 30 in change. I didn't get like a line up and to pick out what I wanted, I was just assigned a girl. I was sort of bummed but this place is more about the talent less on the looks. She's not terrible just not my first round draft pick. Anyway. My forearms were fucking killing me from this bicep workout so I needed the deep massage. Holy fuck it was amazing. The room is very nice, lots of candles, smells etc. The massage table was legit with a hole for your face. The girl is soo soo fucking through. Did all the tricks. I was naked the whole time of course. She had on the professional all white uniform. After what seemed like almost an hour. I get the flip. She asks if I want the release. I say yes. It's 50 k right to her "our secret" she says. So I grab for her tit and she happily un does her shirt, then her bra and I get to see her and touch her giant the silicone tits. It was weird her nipple and tit color were almost the same. It's like when God made her he ran out of colors that day and said fuck it. So I'm about to shoot and I tell her I'm a gyser. She covers with her other hand to block it. Yowzer: it was soo powerful that as it hit her hand it ricochet and hit her lab coat Lewinski style. We both laughed. My arm was still killing me from the workout. I asked her after to hit it again hard, she totally did no problem. Wow amazing service.

150 k.

I went back to an independent, one that I have been seeing. It's actually good to get a regular I think but you run the risk of catching feelings. I try to think of what someone on the board said when this happened. "These girls continue to make bad decisions from the start" so I will admit it did get tight between us. When I come over I stay way way longer then the hour, we order take out together and generally enjoy our time together. I know her real name, been to her real house, etc. I know what it is. What I have to do is realize I'm basically masturbating with a body attracted to it. That said, I still just pay her at the end, even though a time before last she did want to see me free. I come to her place, she is dressed normal like I like. Not that stupid summer dress that's made out of Jersey that a lot of working girls wear. We order some Food, kick it about life. She is getting her stomach done soon so she is not worried about what she eats so much right now. After about an hour of hanging we get on the bed. We look at each other and start kissing like boyfriend & girlfriend. I'm taking my time and once I get down to her panties I see she has on these semi crotchless panties. There really cute. Her pussy is soo small and tight it's hard to believe she gets plowed on the daily. At the moment I don't think that but at least she is fresh & clean. I give her oral, going real slow. She loves it this way. I keep a steady slow pace and within 10 minutes she cums. She goes to give me head and still insists on condoms. No matter what I do I still get condom BJs. Ok, it's still good. I say to her "two pillows" which makes her smile. Her fav position she cums in is when there's two pillows underneath and I'm on top of her. I know it's funny but she loves it. We keep having passionate sex. Lots and lots of kissing. She is awesome at this. I'm getting ready to cum and she totally let's me pull out an the cum on her huge tits. I got her a little bit in the eye. She isn't mad but goes to the other room. She doesn't want me to see her without makeup on because she says she looks Indian without cause of the bags in her eyes. I make a joke about it, she laughs and I tell her "when your taking off your make up, I wonder why you put it on in the first place" she gives me a huge hug and kiss. We hang for another hour. She has to get back to her kid. I tell her goodbye. I go and do my best to protect my heart from getting involved. I keep it strictly dickly.

250 k.

Alejandra.

Ahh this girl. I met her off CC like a year ago. She is the most text book bipolar person I have ever met in my entire life. Completely batshit crazy and Attached to her moms umbilical chord to boot. That said. What a wild fuck! She is about as hot and cold as the hell & the north pole. One minute she is like "baby more kisses. " The next "ahhh what the fuck are you talking to other women! Tu playa?" I cracked a joke like "I'm not a beach" and she went mental in my apartment last time slamming doors like a 2 yo. That said this time around she has a boyfriend. I'm glad she found someone who can handle her but still part of me wants to give it a go one more time. This girls pussy doesn't get wet, it leaks fluid like a bad radiator. I recall last time she was totally naked, started giving me a mic check and I could see her pussy juice just dripping out of her like clear molasses. She has been imposible to lock down, she'll message me, then block me, then unblock me, then tell me fuck you and I ruin her relationship. It's quite entertaining actually. So now she hits me on skype. I been telling her I'm cool being friends cause she has a novia. She then says "you want to make love with me" I'm shocked by not but play it off like I am. This sneaky * devises a plan to go to (school) see me for a few hours then I pay her taxi back. I'm cool with it. She shows up at the exact time she said!! I then proceed to contact Guinness world records as the first paisa in history to be on time. She comes up to my apartment, downs a Pilsen then jumps on me. She is soo fired up we take all our clothes off. She just shoves my cock in her no condom. She tells me she's on BC but still I'm not nutting in her. Damn. Wet wet wet pussy! I pulled my dick out and it just dripped juice all over the sheets. Her pussy is a super soaker. We keep fucking all positions. Lots of super sloppy kissing. She is soo hyper it's like fucking a meth extra from breaking bad. The crazy thing is she doesn't do any drugs. I also like the fact that her tits are real. They are starting to sag a bit cause she put on some weight but still totally fuckable. I'm getting ready to nut and she assumes the position, she takes the whole load in her mouth. It keeps cumming and she keeps sucking. She's like "mm mmmm beb tu Leche muy muy delicious" she has such a pretty face and I lightly slap my dick on it. Of course she takes it to an extreme and starts slapping it onto herself. She keeps doing it and is laughing to the point where it is getting uncomfortable for me. We take a shower, she cleans up. We go to hang on the balcony and lay in the hammock. About 10 minutes she is like "I want to suck it baby. " I'm not going to disagree with this. She starts to while in the hammock and as I'm positioning her we almost fall over! She slightly bumps her head and let's out a loud scream!! "Ahh pudaa" I'm sorry but it was fucking funny. I laugh, she gets sooo fucking pissed!' We are arguing naked with my dick out. I try to console her, I get her some ice. She finally calms down. We're back on the bed, laying down. I go to give her some kisses, she is cool then she jumps up, and says "I want to suck" ok. She starts again. She is really good, goes on it like a maniac. At this point I have t take a peak at her pussy. I have her kind of on the side of me, I go to move her panties to the side and I can see, her pussy is just dripping out juice. It's amazing that a girl can get this wet from sucking dick. She doesn't even want to fuck she just wants to suck. So I let her, she finishes me all over her tits and face. We clean up. We hang some more, throw on Netflix. She likes watching movies in English with subtitles so she can learn. We have a little food and just hang. This is the part I like, she is really into hip hop. She starts playing all these 90's underground rap records and it's amazing she knows the lyrics to like group home & Nas and mobb deep. She acts like a fucking gangsta and her craziness really shows. After about 8 hours of hanging I get a cab and send her on her way. I tell her to send a text when she gets back. I don't hear from her. She disappears again, maybe I'll see her, maybe I won't. I have some crazy text messages from her show how insanse she is.

1 & 2 & 9 Natalia. 3, 4, 5 Thalia. 6,7,8 Alejandra.

Nice report Vegas. Thanks as I like your perspective!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1705465]After spending a couple months in Medellin I just want to write up a trip report for any guys making their first trip and looking for a general guide. As for all you old curmudgeons that just hang out on this forum to proof read, criticize and debate every little topic please just ignore this post because I'm not into all the back and forth.

Regarding lodging I stayed in both El Poblado and in Laureles and I liked both equally well. Both areas felt perfectly safe to me both day and night. El Poblado has more shopping and more of a business district while Laureles felt more like a very hip neighborhood in a big city with many outdoor food & drink places. When I return I'll probably again split my time between these two areas. I didn't pick up any chicas off the streets or the bars in either area either because my tastes are too fussy or because I didn't stay out really late at night when there are likely more chicas looking to make some silver (plata is the Paisa word most often used for money).

I started with the strip clubs because "I love strip clubs!" As I stated in an earlier report the only Medellin strip club I found worth visiting is Fase Dos. The nice thing about the clubs is you can drink and chat with all the girls which is what I like to do. Even with my beginner level Spanish. When you get that feeling that you're ready for action and you've found the right girl you just let her know you want to go next door to South Beach. The total cost for girl and room is 180 mil or about $72 USA Today for an hour or "until you finish". The goal therefore is to make the phone ring after one hour. If you need to buy a condom it'll cost you 5 mil. Get used to using the word "mil" for thousand. From my experience it's best to visit the strip clubs after midnight. Face Dos is jammed and the best looking chicas are working then. After my session I usually worked up an appetite and there's a great little outdoor food counter right there along the sidewalk. Lots more folks to interact with again.

Unfortunately in Medellin there appear to be no classy bars or clubs (like in Panama) where dozens of hot and sexy dressed up girls just stare at you as you walk in the door and want to go back to your hotel room. The cost in Panama is more but well worth it to me. Anyhow back to Medellin there are some seedy little bars / strip clubs with rooms above or behind the bar for pretty cheap. I don't remember the exact cost because each chica negotiates their price. But I'm thinking it was like 100 mil for 30 minutes or 120 mil for one hour. Find these places on the well known "casa map". They are marked with wine or champagne glasses in the el centro area of Medellin. I did these places only because the guys I hung with loved these seedy joints. Oh and maybe because I like a good drinking party.

For me the highlight of Medellin was the casas. I would recommend making a visit to Casa Loutron on top of the hill just for the views. I went up twice and only planned on doing business if a chica was worth their high price. Didn't find more than a solid 8 working here on either visit so just had one expensive beer and back down the hill. Still never any regrets going up here. The second nicest casa is Relajacion Corporal Energy next to the soccer stadium. The rooms here are REALLY nice. But my experience is that the girls are overly experienced and sorta hardened. I don't recall the exact price here but it seemed fair for really nice place in a good neighborhood. Just wish they would have some more fresh girls. Or that they would maybe just act more fresh. I think the best time to visit Energy is early to mid afternoon on weekdays.

But when I return to Medellin I'll be going straight back to the el centro casas. This is where it's possible to find some younger and fresher girls with good attitudes. And the prices are amazingly cheap. Have a taxi drop you off near Parque Bolivar (pronounced Parkay Bow-LEE-var, you need to stress the LEE!) Pull up the casa map on your smartphone and start exploring the casas. They can be hard to find because apparently signage is not allowed. If you're exploring alone I'd try to start early like maybe noonish and finish by 3 PM or so. And I usually duck into a small business to pull out my smartphone. There a lot of "less fortunate than us" youths sharing the same streets here. No reason to name any individual casas because it's hit and miss from one day to the next. Just get out there and adventure!

I also visited the cave at the Mansion one night only because I didn't stay there. But I did stay with Colombia Jake ([URL]colombiajake.com[/URL]) a few nights when hotel rates were more expensive. I think either the Mansion or Jake is a good option for a first time visitor with limited days in town. With either option you will have immediate action your first night. Jake will also tour you in el centro on the casas and whatever else you are interested. He helped me get my phone going and with some other stuff too.

I also found a couple English speaking taxi drivers who helped me a lot. If anyone wants a driver name and number just PM me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hiltler;1698669]Anyone going to Medellin, Cartagena or Guatape beware of a guy named Albert L. He is a con artist and habitual liar.

I gave him a deposit for a apartment and when I got to town he said it was rented!

Never returned my deposit after many, many request. He only threatened me.[/QUOTE]For those of us living here he is an infamous scammer of gringos.

Well it has been five days of hobbying, six chicas and numerous casas. In my visit to Energy I was presented with-.

Andrea.

Karen.

Natalia.

Lauda.

Katrina.

Dulce.

Juliama.

Dana, and.

Valentina.

I decided on Dulce. The youngest in the lineup. The braces did not detract too much from her looks. She was quite smiley and friendly at the start but when the reality of the rigours she was to be put through began to sink in she became a little more somber. Perhaps she was new to the game and not accustomed to what was presented so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. The session was nothing to shout about.

In my visit to Medellin last year I sampled only New Life, Energy and Abydos. Doing numerous sessions in the first two. After my lack lustre session at Energy I decided to try other casas and the following three days were spent visiting numerous casas on World Traveler 69's list. This is what I used to do 'back in the day" – casa hop. And boy was it rewarding. I believe mongers cheat themselves when they come to Medellin and visit only the better known casas.

In looking at my list I have numerous names of chicas but I am not certain of the casas to which they belong. I suppose in drooling over the offerings I got confused. I am certain about some of the names but I should avoid posting them just in case I am wrong, in any event I doubt the value of posting so many names.

The quality of the chicas in the various casas varies, some very hot others not. I chose the hottest chicas and they all gave very good service. There was this one casa I went to where I was presented with a lineup of one. I decided to session with her. Age 19, around 5' 2", biggish but firm. Obviously new to the profession and from my observation possibly new to sex as well. Gave as close to a session with a non pro as can be expected, probably better than many non pros. GFE is an understatement. Very delightful young lady.

As I've said I got all my casas from the past 3 days confused but there was this one casa that I did not enter. If you are walking towards the church on the pedestrian walkway, then just before you enter the park you turn left and walk about 100 meters or more, the casa is on the left. It is in what appears to be a shopping center on piso 2. There is a guy at the entrance to the shopping center encouraging blokes to visit the casa. He was on me, an obvious foreigner, like crazy. I walked towards the casa but was freaked out by the attention I was getting from onlookers and bolted. Can anyone vouch for the quality of chicas at that casa?

It is quite a workout walking from one casa to the other but as I've said, very rewarding; in my remaining weeks of this visit I will certainly be exploring the lesser reported casas.

[QUOTE=RicardoTorres;1698762]When was this? Curious because I knew he went to rehab for a drug and alcohol problem. I am also aware that he has taken advantage of many.[/QUOTE]It was November 2014 I gave him a $400 deposit on an apartment. I'm not sure about any rehab but he's as fucked up as ever! Just recently do to his cocaine addiction he lost his car and the.

Apartment he had down the street from the Hard Rock. A girl messaged me via FB and said he propositioned her for sex. When they finished she asked for money and he told her to fuck off and get lost.

She said he is now living in Prado.

Not really great. Almost all girls are fat. But, somehow I always meet one girl I like there.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1706111]As I've said I got all my casas from the past 3 days confused but there was this one casa that I did not enter. If you are walking towards the church on the pedestrian walkway, then just before you enter the park you turn left and walk about 100 meters or more, the casa is on the left. It is in what appears to be a shopping center on piso 2. There is a guy at the entrance to the shopping center encouraging blokes to visit the casa. He was on me, an obvious foreigner, like crazy. I walked towards the casa but was freaked out by the attention I was getting from onlookers and bolted. Can anyone vouch for the quality of chicas at that casa?

It is quite a workout walking from one casa to the other but as I've said, very rewarding; in my remaining weeks of this visit I will certainly be exploring the lesser reported casas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1706219]Not really great. Almost all girls are fat. But, somehow I always meet one girl I like there.

.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll give it a try at a more opportune time, not on an afternoon around 3. 30 pm.

On another note, I visited some casas in which I did not select and was never charged a viewer fee as mentioned in earlier reports. The reason, I suspect, is that I ordered a beer. Cost was 5,000 pesos. It was an excellent time to sit and just chill out after all that walking even though not sessioning.

Correct about viewer fee. In centro, beer usually costs 2 k. I personally wouldn't enter casas with a viewer fee. A viewer fee indicates that they know that customers will not like any of the girls. If you forgot about the names of other casas, check my map on the other thread. I told the manager of chicas punto to stop the kids following foreigners. I told him that it would kill his business. He told me that he understands, but evidently he, or the owner, doesn't. As you say, i like walking around casas as well as sessions in casas.


[QUOTE=Turgid;1706241]Thanks, I'll give it a try at a more opportune time, not on an afternoon around 3. 30 pm.

On another note, I visited some casas in which I did not select and was never charged a viewer fee as mentioned in earlier reports. The reason, I suspect, is that I ordered a beer. Cost was 5,000 pesos. It was an excellent time to sit and just chill out after all that walking even though not sessioning.[/QUOTE].

I don't recall the name of the place that recently closed on Cra. 47, but think it might be Aqui es Mas Sexi, with address.

Carrera 47 # 57 A-24. Either way, it's the casa on second floor, a door or two down from Zandaly. Those that avoid places charging viewing fees might have to avoid that whole block since the remaining three, and now Kamasutras charge a fee for browsing, most are 3 K pesos as I recall. It could be that casas charge fees bc they know they lack talent, but I tend to think otherwise as some we've been to that charge also have had a solid lineup. We'll have to see over time, but my hunch is this is the trend.

The above did not stop us from having another great day in Centro on Wednesday. You can avoid the fee by buying a beer, which also let's you see the lineup once or twice more as they present to clients that entered after you.

I added that casa on map last year after I stopped by over there. I will remove it from the map, thanks for let me know. As for the viewer fee, you make sense a lot and I will stop by these casas with fee to check their quality. Thanks for the good insights.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1706256]I don't recall the name of the place that recently closed on Cra. 47, but think it might be Aqui es Mas Sexi, with address.

Carrera 47 # 57 A-24. Either way, it's the casa on second floor, a door or two down from Zandaly. Those that avoid places charging viewing fees might have to avoid that whole block since the remaining three, and now Kamasutras charge a fee for browsing, most are 3 K pesos as I recall. It could be that casas charge fees bc they know they lack talent, but I tend to think otherwise as some we've been to that charge also have had a solid lineup. We'll have to see over time, but my hunch is this is the trend.

The above did not stop us from having another great day in Centro on Wednesday. You can avoid the fee by buying a beer, which also let's you see the lineup once or twice more as they present to clients that entered after you.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1706264]I added that casa on map last year after I stopped by over there. I will remove it from the map, thanks for let me know. As for the viewer fee, you make sense a lot and I will stop by these casas with fee to check their quality. Thanks for the good insights..[/QUOTE]Anytime amigo, in any case it's good to have a beer and get the double presentation.

Also, there is another casa in the same mall as [URL]Punto.com[/URL] but I can't remember the name. Somebody has mentioned it here before, it's on the next floor up from Punto, instead of taking a right into Punto when you go up stairs, make a left on the landing and then a right up the next flight. I agree with your take on [URL]Punto.com[/URL], the other casa has fewer ladies but not as overweight. No viewing fee in either of these places as I recall.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1706246]Correct about viewer fee. In centro, beer usually costs 2 k. I personally wouldn't enter casas with a viewer fee. A viewer fee indicates that they know that customers will not like any of the girls. If you forgot about the names of other casas, check my map on the other thread. I told the manager of chicas punto to stop the kids following foreigners. I told him that it would kill his business. He told me that he understands, but evidently he, or the owner, doesn't. As you say, i like walking around casas as well as sessions in casas.


.[/QUOTE]At one casa I paid 2 K pesos for water so perhaps I got 1 K pesos off the viewer fee. What I would really like to know is if locals pay a viewer fee. What I should do is not order a drink and compile a list of casas that charge a viewer fee linked to the quality of the chicas there. I suppose if the quality is good I would not know if they charge a viewer fee as I would session there. Bear in mind that quality is subjective.

[QUOTE=RicardoTorres;1706274]Someone should also do a statistical study to see if a club like the old Help in Rio or LDV from Cartagena would make it in Medellin. Just joking as I know most on this forum take things to heart.[/QUOTE]That's actually been "studied" twice already (Doll House, Liquid Lounge).

Both results of the study ended tragically for the owners.

It was a bit of mismanagement along with some inflated expectations that sank the two franchises. No matter how many times I asked for clarification of services and prices, the guys running the establishments couldn't give me a straight answer. As a customer, I am always weary of people who can't give me a straight answer or be firm and establish a standard for customers to be able to know what to expect when visiting. So, my visits were exploratory and not as free and easy as it should have been. Even in there it was impossible to get straight answers.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1706490]That's actually been "studied" twice already (Doll House, Liquid Lounge).

Both results of the study ended tragically for the owners.[/QUOTE]

Funny, it appears that you are baiting me for the attackers here. I had the same question, and I saw locals opted to drink beer over paying viewing fee when they left casas. In addition, some casas with fee, ie. Zandaly, never charge me the fee. So, I guess they tend to charge everybody except repeating customers. But again, this is just an inference based on a few cases, it should differ casa by casa, and typical Colombian managers may impose the fee just randomly and irrationally.


[QUOTE=Turgid;1706489] What I would really like to know is if locals pay a viewer fee. What I should do is not order a drink and compile a list of casas that charge a viewer fee linked to the quality of the chicas there. I suppose if the quality is good I would not know if they charge a viewer fee as I would session there. Bear in mind that quality is subjective.[/QUOTE].

I know the casa on 3rd floor. Usually 2-5 chicas. Good line up sometimes bad talents sometimes, but mostly poor lineup.

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1706474]Anytime amigo, in any case it's good to have a beer and get the double presentation.

Also, there is another casa in the same mall as [URL]Punto.com[/URL] but I can't remember the name. Somebody has mentioned it here before, it's on the next floor up from Punto, instead of taking a right into Punto when you go up stairs, make a left on the landing and then a right up the next flight. I agree with your take on [URL]Punto.com[/URL], the other casa has fewer ladies but not as overweight. No viewing fee in either of these places as I recall.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1706474]Also, there is another casa in the same mall as [URL]Punto.com[/URL] but I can't remember the name. Somebody has mentioned it here before, it's on the next floor up from Punto, instead of taking a right into Punto when you go up stairs, make a left on the landing and then a right up the next flight. I agree with your take on [URL]Punto.com[/URL], the other casa has fewer ladies but not as overweight. No viewing fee in either of these places as I recall.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the motel next door to this place. For my taste the one on the right had the better girls and they definitely had more girls. And that is correct; there was no viewing fee. Even still, some of the places that had a viewing fee we did not give them anything. Yet others that did not have a viewing fee sometimes we slid the guy 2000 pesos (not each, but together - me and 1 wingman).

I have a contact. But never hooked up. I know you guys know her. Laura moncada but she seems very rude. Anyone can give me a good report or feedback on her. She is young big tits and ass. But I rather spend my money and time with a proven performer than a possible dead starfish complainer nagger can't do this can't do that chick.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1706569]I have a contact. But never hooked up. I know you guys know her. Laura moncada but she seems very rude. Anyone can give me a good report or feedback on her. She is young big tits and ass. But I rather spend my money and time with a proven performer than a possible dead starfish complainer nagger can't do this can't do that chick.[/QUOTE]So much of this is individual. Chemistry between people is as varied as the number of people. If you already think she is rude, move on. There are thousands of young Paisitas who will trade some horizontal exercise for your pesos. Next.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1706569]I have a contact. But never hooked up. I know you guys know her. Laura moncada but she seems very rude. Anyone can give me a good report or feedback on her. She is young big tits and ass. But I rather spend my money and time with a proven performer than a possible dead starfish complainer nagger can't do this can't do that chick.[/QUOTE]I spent a few hours with her this trip. She was after me for two years. But a female friend of mine told me that she may be [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] and that's why I never saw her. When she contacted again this time, she told me that she just turned 20 this week. She is as sweet as you can possibly find. You need to speak Spanish. She apologized before coming for being heavy. But she does not look that bad in person. She is quite tall, and has a very sweet baby face. She was all over me, including taking shower together. Yes, she has some pair of melons and she knows how to play with them. She also has a gorgeous behind. But if you already started on a wrong foot with her, it is better to move on to others. I want girls who are into me, not the other way around. I just came back to New York this morning and my inbox is full of inquiries when I was going back to MDE again. This trip was a blast!

Bandy

Do any of hot girls from the strip clubs do todo de noche, all nighters at the hotel of the person?

What would be the total cost including the takeout fee. (USD?

I will try at first to go to the strip clubs and try to get the numbers of the girls and call them when they get out of work or next day to.

Avoid the take out fee.

My type is the esperanza gomez type girls, big boobs, and all. Also will they do BBJ?

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1705465]After spending a couple months in Medellin I just want to write up a trip report for any guys making their first trip and looking for a general guide. As for all you old curmudgeons that just hang out on this forum to proof read, criticize and debate every little topic please just ignore this post because I'm not into all the back and forth.

Regarding lodging I stayed in both El Poblado and in Laureles and I liked both equally well. Both areas felt perfectly safe to me both day and night. El Poblado has more shopping and more of a business district while Laureles felt more like a very hip neighborhood in a big city with many outdoor food & drink places. When I return I'll probably again split my time between these two areas. I didn't pick up any chicas off the streets or the bars in either area either because my tastes are too fussy or because I didn't stay out really late at night when there are likely more chicas looking to make some silver (plata is the Paisa word most often used for money).

I started with the strip clubs because "I love strip clubs!" As I stated in an earlier report the only Medellin strip club I found worth visiting is Fase Dos. The nice thing about the clubs is you can drink and chat with all the girls which is what I like to do. Even with my beginner level Spanish. When you get that feeling that you're ready for action and you've found the right girl you just let her know you want to go next door to South Beach. The total cost for girl and room is 180 mil or about $72 USA Today for an hour or "until you finish". The goal therefore is to make the phone ring after one hour. If you need to buy a condom it'll cost you 5 mil. Get used to using the word "mil" for thousand. From my experience it's best to visit the strip clubs after midnight. Face Dos is jammed and the best looking chicas are working then. After my session I usually worked up an appetite and there's a great little outdoor food counter right there along the sidewalk. Lots more folks to interact with again.

Unfortunately in Medellin there appear to be no classy bars or clubs (like in Panama) where dozens of hot and sexy dressed up girls just stare at you as you walk in the door and want to go back to your hotel room. The cost in Panama is more but well worth it to me. Anyhow back to Medellin there are some seedy little bars / strip clubs with rooms above or behind the bar for pretty cheap. I don't remember the exact cost because each chica negotiates their price. But I'm thinking it was like 100 mil for 30 minutes or 120 mil for one hour. Find these places on the well known "casa map". They are marked with wine or champagne glasses in the el centro area of Medellin. I did these places only because the guys I hung with loved these seedy joints. Oh and maybe because I like a good drinking party.

For me the highlight of Medellin was the casas. I would recommend making a visit to Casa Loutron on top of the hill just for the views. I went up twice and only planned on doing business if a chica was worth their high price. Didn't find more than a solid 8 working here on either visit so just had one expensive beer and back down the hill. Still never any regrets going up here. The second nicest casa is Relajacion Corporal Energy next to the soccer stadium. The rooms here are REALLY nice. But my experience is that the girls are overly experienced and sorta hardened. I don't recall the exact price here but it seemed fair for really nice place in a good neighborhood. Just wish they would have some more fresh girls. Or that they would maybe just act more fresh. I think the best time to visit Energy is early to mid afternoon on weekdays.

But when I return to Medellin I'll be going straight back to the el centro casas. This is where it's possible to find some younger and fresher girls with good attitudes. And the prices are amazingly cheap. Have a taxi drop you off near Parque Bolivar (pronounced Parkay Bow-LEE-var, you need to stress the LEE!) Pull up the casa map on your smartphone and start exploring the casas. They can be hard to find because apparently signage is not allowed. If you're exploring alone I'd try to start early like maybe noonish and finish by 3 PM or so. And I usually duck into a small business to pull out my smartphone. There a lot of "less fortunate than us" youths sharing the same streets here. No reason to name any individual casas because it's hit and miss from one day to the next. Just get out there and adventure!

I also visited the cave at the Mansion one night only because I didn't stay there. But I did stay with Colombia Jake ([URL]colombiajake.com[/URL]) a few nights when hotel rates were more expensive. I think either the Mansion or Jake is a good option for a first time visitor with limited days in town. With either option you will have immediate action your first night. Jake will also tour you in el centro on the casas and whatever else you are interested. He helped me get my phone going and with some other stuff too.

I also found a couple English speaking taxi drivers who helped me a lot. If anyone wants a driver name and number just PM me.[/QUOTE]

Her name is Castano- I have not seen her but have been talking to her on facebook.

She is open to doing greek, bbj and is hot and pretty and great body.

If anyone is in Medellin or there soon here is her contact info.

If you know spanish then great. I been using google translator. She is real bc she sent me pics thru whatsapp and put on what I asked her to wear.

And send pic.

So feel free to talk to her and meet up if your in the area and lets us know how she is. Yes this one would being take one for the team.

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[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1707146]Her name is Castano- I have not seen her but have been talking to her on facebook.

She is open to doing greek, bbj and is hot and pretty and great body.

If anyone is in Medellin or there soon here is her contact info.

If you know spanish then great. I been using google translator. She is real bc she sent me pics thru whatsapp and put on what I asked her to wear.

And send pic.

[b]So feel free to talk to her and meet up if your in the area and lets us know how she is. Yes this one would being take one for the team.[/b]

0 1 1 5 7 3 1 9 3 2 3 6 5 7 8.[/QUOTE]"I have no idea if this broad is real or not, but give her a call and report back. If it turns out to be a group of Colombianos who beat your ass, tie you up, and take everything not bolted down, let me know that too!

LMAO.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1707170]That's a possibility too. So better for a pro who knows and spanish and the area and see if meet in open place I guess. From my facebook and whatsapp conversations seems.

Like normal sexy hot colombian woman, with kids, doesn't make much etc. Also Mary Mery is hot too. I see on facebook a lot these girls are friends gringos who post on their wall too. That.

Tells me they are legit, or atleast hopefully they are.

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[URL]https://www.facebook.com/marixita.emoxita[/URL][/QUOTE]That one is a legit pro. I didn't have her number before, but I do now!

Another good reason to keep the good shit to yourselves gentlemen.

Nothing is sacred anymore...this guy is just giving it away from free, lol.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1707179]I am a senior member and all about helping others to have a great experience and.

I hope in return, members can assist me as well.

But maybe your right, maybe on share with Senior Members thru PM??

Also like I said, I haven't had chance to meet these girls, and if others can and get us a good report.

Then win win for everyone? Am I wrong??[/QUOTE]From one Senior Member to another: if there is one thing North Americans know how to do very well, it's fucking up a good thing. Ask any Rio, San Jose, or Sosua old timer and see if they say otherwise.

I don't see why you don't just have your fill first, then pass on the leftovers. It's like you are helping a bunch of faceless strangers take a shit on your mattress, then going behind all of them and rolling around in it.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1704267]Yes. El centro is not safe for the gringo at night. My suggestion is to have a taxi driver you can trust and drive around the area and pic the chicas from the taxi. I'm brown and walking at night still is risky for me.[/QUOTE]It is very safe. I be lived here for 2 years and never once were threatened or felt unsafe.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1707097]Do any of hot girls from the strip clubs do todo de noche, all nighters at the hotel of the person?

What would be the total cost including the takeout fee. (USD?

I will try at first to go to the strip clubs and try to get the numbers of the girls and call them when they get out of work or next day to.

Avoid the take out fee.

My type is the esperanza gomez type girls, big boobs, and all. Also will they do BBJ?[/QUOTE]I'm speaking of the centro strip clubs as you you can find what you are looking for there at a fraction of what you would pay for a higher end girl.

First off you are correct in getting their numbers to dodge the takeout fee. As far as BBBJ, and TLN I would suggest a test drive in the club. If you get a BBBJ in the club then it should be good in your room also. As far as price for a Centro girl I would try for 100 K,and go to 150 k if that does not work. Now in the off chance you find a total GFE who is a 8 or 9 then open your wallet as when you get back to Sex Prison you will regret the day you did not go for it.

[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1706569]I have a contact. But never hooked up. I know you guys know her. Laura moncada but she seems very rude. Anyone can give me a good report or feedback on her. She is young big tits and ass. But I rather spend my money and time with a proven performer than a possible dead starfish complainer nagger can't do this can't do that chick.[/QUOTE]You asked for a field report and I provided one regarding Laura. Now Laura is giving me third degree why are we discussing about her on this site. Please "STOP SHOWING THIS SITE TO CHICAS FOR SCORING POINTS". This is for us mongers to exchange information. Don't f*ck it up. I have to think twice before I help another monger.

Bandy.

Get over yourself. First of all I just saw your field report. Second why would I show her or talk to her about this site. Just so you know many of these girls know about this site and there is such a thing as Google translate if they don't speak english. I appreciate your report but I repeat I didn't tell her or any other hoe about this site. I could care less about scoring points with someone I wasn't going to bang anyway. That shows you how dumb these girls are. You actually said good things about her. Why would she be pissed. Ohh well!! Not the sharpest knife I guess.

[QUOTE=Bandy;1707419]You asked for a field report and I provided one regarding Laura. Now Laura is giving me third degree why are we discussing about her on this site. Please "STOP SHOWING THIS SITE TO CHICAS FOR SCORING POINTS". This is for us mongers to exchange information. Don't f*ck it up. I have to think twice before I help another monger.

Bandy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bandy;1707419]You asked for a field report and I provided one regarding Laura. Now Laura is giving me third degree why are we discussing about her on this site. Please "STOP SHOWING THIS SITE TO CHICAS FOR SCORING POINTS". This is for us mongers to exchange information. Don't f*ck it up. I have to think twice before I help another monger.

Bandy.[/QUOTE]Damn I hate being right:

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1707183]From one Senior Member to another: if there is one thing North Americans know how to do very well, it's fucking up a good thing. Ask any Rio, San Jose, or Sosua old timer and see if they say otherwise.
[/QUOTE][b]Not[/b] aimed at Nclpimp; just testament as to how Captain Save a H0es will ALWAYS put h0es before bros.

That's why you don't see much activity here lately. Guys are learning to keep their mouths shut.

It's really not in my best internet to share contact info. There is enough info on this forum to help guys find and develop their own contacts.

Girls are simply to irrational tu use this site.

They depend on what other persons says; it might seem unlogical to some guys, but they are females and believe in persons, not facts!

They can't grasp the abstract meaning of words, nor numbers; they live by the day; planning does not exist, because there existe no logical thinking; problems are solved, with help from other persons, as they occur.

Girls are also afraid for men; if being overly sarcastic above; they trust a person which they consider knowledgeable or in High Social Rank + afraid = they seek and environment like New Life, or an apartment in Poblado / Laureles.

They are not out Internetsurfing for logical market-info. Which they collect to a dossier; that is what You would do; she does perfect opposite!

Please!

ISG and other forums has been here for almost 20 years!

The paisa prepagos still don't know anything about it, and never will!

The info. here is very boring to read if you not are an potential client; the girls, translating to Google, it's your own invention; they simply do not exist!

Paranoia!

Paisas are not Swedish tall blonde calculating machines; the price they pay for being maybe,(not as loveable as girls from Norteast Brazil says Ricker) the most loveable girls in the world is that they use their feelings as communicating instrument, and that only;.

I would say it is Impossible to make a paisa act rational!

It is impossible for a paisa to act rational, it is indeed so!

They are slaves under their Genes & Cultures, just as we are from the North!

Relax; go out and have a Beer you guys and become friends!

The Pub London on "La 70" is a perfect place for peace talks!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1707429]Damn I hate being right:

[b]Not[/b] aimed at Nclpimp; just testament as to how Captain Save a H0es will ALWAYS put h0es before bros.

That's why you don't see much activity here lately. Guys are learning to keep their mouths shut.

It's really not in my best internet to share contact info. There is enough info on this forum to help guys find and develop their own contacts.[/QUOTE]I got screwed here too after my last report. Some dickwad decided to thinknit would be a good idea to show a girl I posted a report and picture about this site. The girl has theatened my safety if she finds out I am back. Not sure if its anything to worry about ir if she was just pissed. Worst part was I posted a nice decent picture of her nothing revealing or anything.

[QUOTE=OldGringoBangs;1707213]It is very safe. I be lived here for 2 years and never once were threatened or felt unsafe.[/QUOTE]El Centro is not safe at night for those who appear to be obvious gringos. I'm a gringo with olive skin and can pass for a Colombian and have never had any problems in El Centro at night the times I have stayed there, however, if you have blond hair and blue eyes you will attract some attention. El Centro at night will have some cops around the Avendia De La Grief area but I never saw any near the Church and by Hotel Premier Plaza where I stayed on my last trip. Obvious gringos need to be cautious in the El Centro area at night. I don't think it would be wise for others to get the impression it is "safe" as you suggest.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1707624]I got screwed here too after my last report. Some dickwad decided to thinknit would be a good idea to show a girl I posted a report and picture about this site. The girl has theatened my safety if she finds out I am back. Not sure if its anything to worry about ir if she was just pissed. Worst part was I posted a nice decent picture of her nothing revealing or anything.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that bro. That's fucked up.

Sadly (at least in this particular thread it seems), no good deed goes unpunished.

I don't mean to start a flame war, but it maybe unrealistic to assume that pros and semi-pros will not find this site ever. I can imagine some guys at Mansion and others have mentioned or showed this site and the contents of posts to the girls. Probably, members better use PM for info of specific girls. It will be in our best interest not to make the girls angry about this site. Anyway, news media in Colombia will expose this site someday, it's a matter of time.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1707624]I got screwed here too after my last report. Some dickwad decided to thinknit would be a good idea to show a girl I posted a report and picture about this site. The girl has theatened my safety if she finds out I am back. Not sure if its anything to worry about ir if she was just pissed. Worst part was I posted a nice decent picture of her nothing revealing or anything.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1707635]El Centro at night will have some cops around the Avendia De La Grief area but I never saw any near the Church and by Hotel Premier Plaza where I stayed on my last trip.[/QUOTE]Nah, but they sure come quick when something is going down. These are screenshots of a video I made in January. Even though I was there before the cops even came, I am still not even sure what happened. There were two guys in the middle of the street just talking shit and all of a sudden the police rolled up and put one in a chokehold.

These thugs in centro are not randomly attacking the people. They are executing the plans made by the quasi-administrative, professional robbery organization based on division of labor and specialization. They are trained to find, mark, and eventually rob foreigners and other victims.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1707635]El Centro is not safe at night for those who appear to be obvious gringos. I'm a gringo with olive skin and can pass for a Colombian and have never had any problems in El Centro at night the times I have stayed there, however, if you have blond hair and blue eyes you will attract some attention. El Centro at night will have some cops around the Avendia De La Grief area but I never saw any near the Church and by Hotel Premier Plaza where I stayed on my last trip. Obvious gringos need to be cautious in the El Centro area at night. I don't think it would be wise for others to get the impression it is "safe" as you suggest.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1707652]Anyway, news media in Colombia will expose this site someday, it's a matter of time.[/QUOTE]Come on Matt, you know better than that. Why would the media want to say anything about this website? If they did then they have already had 20 years to do it. What about the tons of other websites (including FB) in Colombia that hookers and brothels advertise on? To the media, there is nothing special about ISG and a bunch of guys telling hoarstories.

But, I guess Mansion was covered by the papers years ago. Gringo sex tourism is frequently covered by media. Since media is always looking for somebody to blame, on-line sites may be covered someday. Before Castro, people never thought that there would be a revolution simply because there had not been before. But again, you may be right on this one.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1707663]Come on Matt, you know better than that. Why would the media want to say anything about this website? If they did then they have already had 20 years to do it. What about the tons of other websites (including FB) in Colombia that hookers and brothels advertise on? To the media, there is nothing special about ISG and guys telling hoarstories.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1707662]These thugs in centro are not randomly attacking the people. They are executing the plans made by the quasi-administrative, professional robbery organization based on division of labor and specialization. They are trained to find, mark, and eventually rob foreigners and other victims.[/QUOTE]And if your wearing shorts your an obvious mark to the thugs as being a foreigner. I'll be down with two newbies to Colombia next month and have informed them that you can't roll there like you would in Sosua, Tijuana, Thailand, etc.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1707624]Worst part was I posted a nice decent picture of her nothing revealing or anything.[/QUOTE]Yea but it's still a site about women that are hoes. Always cover the face. At least cover the eyes to give them denial ability. Saving face is a big deal EVERYWHERE.

Yes, but that girl is incredibly beautiful and has an Ass to die for!

But anyway, +50% of the sexy girls on CC and other sites are prepagos and more or less say so directly in their profiles; and on FB.

This has become a Paranioa epedemic, based on a few isolated events!

This forum says no more than what happend in detail about a meeting between a man and a woman; and there are 1000 ends of them everyday, almost pretty the same!

If you not are a "monger", with connection to medellin, it is simply to f* boring to read that, and especially, a paisa would never do it! It simply does not happen!

You guys; go and take that beer at London on La 70!

No sane person who enjoys this hobby would even think of telling a chica about this site. No possible good can come out of doing that.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1707929]No sane person who enjoys this hobby would even think of telling a chica about this site. No possible good can come out of doing that.[/QUOTE]History has proven that for men sanity goes out the window when pussy is involved.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1707942]History has proven that for men sanity goes out the window when pussy is involved.[/QUOTE]Mark Anthony's affair with Cleopatra being one of the more famous example.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1707635]El Centro is not safe at night for those who appear to be obvious gringos. I'm a gringo with olive skin and can pass for a Colombian and have never had any problems in El Centro at night the times I have stayed there, however, if you have blond hair and blue eyes you will attract some attention. El Centro at night will have some cops around the Avendia De La Grief area but I never saw any near the Church and by Hotel Premier Plaza where I stayed on my last trip. Obvious gringos need to be cautious in the El Centro area at night. I don't think it would be wise for others to get the impression it is "safe" as you suggest.[/QUOTE]El Centro at night is not safe for anyone! It's not to say that you will get mugged there for sure if you walk around at night. It's dimly lit and very few people around. You take your risk! I usually just take a taxi straight to the Centro strip clubs and that's it.

So a lot of the chicas are from Bello, so I'm going to try my luck there. I hear the city is very ghetto but adultsearchdotcom says there are some strip club there. Well keep you guys posted. Please let me know if you have any info.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1708538]So a lot of the chicas are from Bello, so I'm going to try my luck there. I hear the city is very ghetto but adultsearchdotcom says there are some strip club there. Well keep you guys posted. Please let me know if you have any info.[/QUOTE]Bello is a mixed bag. Some parts are cool to visit, others are very dangerous 24/7. You might want to find a chica to show you around a bit.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1708538]So a lot of the chicas are from Bello, so I'm going to try my luck there. I hear the city is very ghetto but adultsearchdotcom says there are some strip club there. Well keep you guys posted. Please let me know if you have any info.[/QUOTE]Interesting but I went to adultsearchdotcom and the only Colombian cities I found where:

Armenia.

Barranquilla.

Bogota.

Buga.

Cartagena.

Cali.

Medellin.

Pereira.

Where did you see the strip clubs for Bello?

Hi,

Am planning my first trip to Medellin and was wondering what the situation with most hotels is.

Thanks in advance.

VegasCrazyGuy it was fun having you here and thanks for mentioning us! We just had two Miami Bar tenders from the hot Miami clubs here and they were still impressed! Once again nothing makes me happier than to hear you say this was the best vacation of your life! I enjoy playing a part in that! From the casas to parasailing to trying new things to experience the culture these guys went for it and love this place and town! Robert from Texas arrived yesterday and we toured Centro, today its the metro cable along with another date tonight because he likes to dance and for you non dancers you still can dance reggaeton where you just ride her doggy style and not have to move much and have a great time! The girls here are happy to help show you how and relax and have fun! Eric my right hand man is an old friend from Florida who is also now here full time to help out, who has a fun personality and fun to hang out with, you can ask VegasCrazyGuy about him because I know he enjoyed his company! I have a new pair of really cute girls that you'll like individually or together one's name is Pamela and she has the best set of natural jugs that you will ever handle! Photo below! The other is small thin and pretty face named Melonie! Thanks and see you soon! Jake.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1705465]After spending a couple months in Medellin I just want to write up a trip report for any guys making their first trip and looking for a general guide. As for all you old curmudgeons that just hang out on this forum to proof read, criticize and debate every little topic please just ignore this post because I'm not into all the back and forth.

Regarding lodging I stayed in both El Poblado and in Laureles and I liked both equally well. Both areas felt perfectly safe to me both day and night. El Poblado has more shopping and more of a business district...[/QUOTE]

It's in the Medellin section. I looked up the address and it's in bello.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;1708609]Interesting but I went to adultsearchdotcom and the only Colombian cities I found where:

Armenia.

Barranquilla.

Bogota.

Buga.

Cartagena.

Cali.

Medellin.

Pereira.

Where did you see the strip clubs for Bello?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1708830]VegasCrazyGuy it was fun having you here and thanks for mentioning us! We just had two Miami Bar tenders from the hot Miami clubs here and they were still impressed! Once again nothing makes me happier than to hear you say this was the best vacation of your life! I enjoy playing a part in that! From the casas to parasailing to trying new things to experience the culture these guys went for it and love this place and town! Robert from Texas arrived yesterday and we toured Centro, today its the metro cable along with another date tonight because he likes to dance and for you non dancers you still can dance reggaeton where you just ride her doggy style and not have to move much and have a great time! The girls here are happy to help show you how and relax and have fun! Eric my right hand man is an old friend from Florida who is also now here full time to help out, who has a fun personality and fun to hang out with, you can ask VegasCrazyGuy about him because I know he enjoyed his company! I have a new pair of really cute girls that you'll like individually or together one's name is Pamela and she has the best set of natural jugs that you will ever handle! Photo below! The other is small thin and pretty face named Melonie! Thanks and see you soon! Jake.[/QUOTE]I mean, I never make fun of people's apperances, but this time not even I could help myself!

You coulnd't find a girl with a bigger nose? Did you look at Zoo?

Or she needs the money for a nosejob?

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1708967]I mean, I never make fun of people's apperances, but this time not even I could help myself!

You coulnd't find a girl with a bigger nose? Did you look at Zoo?

Or she needs the money for a nosejob?[/QUOTE]Frankly,

I never made it above those beautiful natural mountains! The nose is not that big in person! The rest of the body is kicking too! I guarantee you would love to take this babe for a spin!

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1708538]So a lot of the chicas are from Bello, so I'm going to try my luck there. I hear the city is very ghetto but adultsearchdotcom says there are some strip club there. Well keep you guys posted. Please let me know if you have any info.[/QUOTE]I will not be surprised if it turns out to be anticlimactic. You have time so I am glad you are exploring but most quality (8 and above) Bello girls do not want to hang out in Bello working as pros. Non pro action is a different story. You need your A game and good Spanish to pull that off.

Good luck and keep us posted.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1708967]I mean, I never make fun of people's apperances, but this time not even I could help myself!

You coulnd't find a girl with a bigger nose? Did you look at Zoo?

Or she needs the money for a nosejob?[/QUOTE]On this one I will have to give Jake credit, as this is by far one of the better-looking chicas he has posted to-date (IMHO).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1709037]On this one I will have to give Jake credit, as this is by far one of the better-looking chicas he has posted to-date (IMHO).[/QUOTE]I agree save pro I am not mad. You would be happy if a girl looking like that stop and talk to you in the good old USA.

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1708830] I have a new pair of really cute girls that you'll like individually or together one's name is Pamela and she has the best set of natural jugs that you will ever handle! Photo below! The other is small thin and pretty face named Melonie! Thanks and see you soon! Jake.[/QUOTE]Nice top on that girl. Tits look a bit man made to my eye.

AP

I apologize.

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1709003]Frankly,

I never made it above those beautiful natural mountains! The nose is not that big in person! The rest of the body is kicking too! I guarantee you would love to take this babe for a spin![/QUOTE]Ditto that! You took the words straight out of my mind.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1709003]Frankly,

I never made it above those beautiful natural mountains! The nose is not that big in person! The rest of the body is kicking too! I guarantee you would love to take this babe for a spin![/QUOTE]I am planning to visit Colombia this year, mongered before in Ukraine, Thailand, Dubai, Ethiopia, USA, Germany, Egypt, Brazil and Mexico. Jake, I love the pic and love what you offer. Forget the haters.

Anyone interested in being a part of the Jack Sparrows club? Maybe this will float your boat. He needs help in putting it together, and I am sure many of you here on the Medellin thread would be very happy to help Mr. Sparrow. Here is a link to the thread he created here on the ISG seeking your involvement. Now I did my good deed for today!

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3685-Club-288-%2817.57%29[/URL]

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1676687]Within minutes of each other I exchanged dollars at a cambio in Mall Oviedo (which in the past has always delivered one of the better exchange rates I have see around town) and then pulled significant cash out of a nearby bank ATM using my USA bank debit card (mastercharge endorsed).

It always takes a few days for all the fees / charges to fully appear on my bank statement. (mastercard currency conv. Fee + mastercard cross border fee).

When all is said and done (with all fees included) I received the following exchange rate on this date:

Oviedo Mall Cambio: 2,190 cop / usd.

ATM withdrawl (debit card) 2,344 cop / usd.

Keep in mind this is a debit card and not a credit card.

I have done this little experiment in the past and I believe when all ATM fees were included the rates were much more equal or maybe even a little better at the cambios, but things have obviously changed leaning to better rates at the ATM. ----If one exchanges $1,000 usd this will amount to a difference of roughly 150,000 cop. A guy can have a lot of fun in Medellin with 150,000 cop. :-)

I will be traveling to Thailand next month and would be curious is the same will be found there?

ASIDE- on a recent past trip I noted that my debit card (which has no chip) would not work in many ATMs around Medellin. Almost all required a "chip". The ATMs on the wall as you enter west end of Mall Oviedo (nearest the cambios) do process cards without chip. Also the ATM at RIO casino in San Diego does as well. In centro I had real difficulty getting cash without a chip.[/QUOTE]The above experiment on exchange rates was done in Jan /2015. The below repeat experiment on rates is April 2015 just three months latter:

Friday the cambio gave 2410 pesos / dollar while the ATM debit card gave 2505. Saturday the cambio was 2395 and ATM 2465. This was quite a drop in one day, but I have noted in the past that weekends usually are the worst time to get a good exchange rate anywhere in the world. If I were going to make a generalization I would say wait until midweek to exchange large amounts of dollars.

This strong dollar is truly making things a whole lot cheaper here as long as you stay clear of the gringo business entities that quote their prices in dollars. I cannot blame them as they are just trying to make a living, but the locals are still very much peso based. Peso prices have gone up a little bit in general, but no where's near matching the dollar's valuation.

I hope this is the appropriate forum. Seeking short time Love Hotel (bring your own girl) with sex furniture. I've stumbled upon them elsewhere, but never in MDE.

Thanks.

Check out this link. It has information on motels and more, but you will have to find the furniture type on your own. Good luck.
http://guiacereza.com/guiadesitios/medellin/categoria/moteles


[QUOTE=SpiderRider;1709898]I hope this is the appropriate forum. Seeking short time Love Hotel (bring your own girl) with sex furniture. I've stumbled upon them elsewhere, but never in MDE.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TroyBoy;1676687]Within minutes of each other I exchanged dollars at a cambio in Mall Oviedo (which in the past has always delivered one of the better exchange rates I have see around town) and then pulled significant cash out of a nearby bank ATM using my USA bank debit card (mastercharge endorsed).

It always takes a few days for all the fees / charges to fully appear on my bank statement. (mastercard currency conv. Fee + mastercard cross border fee).

When all is said and done (with all fees included) I received the following exchange rate on this date:

Oviedo Mall Cambio: 2,190 cop / usd.

ATM withdrawl (debit card) 2,344 cop / usd.

Keep in mind this is a debit card and not a credit card.

I have done this little experiment in the past and I believe when all ATM fees were included the rates were much more equal or maybe even a little better at the cambios, but things have obviously changed leaning to better rates at the ATM. ----If one exchanges $1,000 usd this will amount to a difference of roughly 150,000 cop. A guy can have a lot of fun in Medellin with 150,000 cop. :-)

I will be traveling to Thailand next month and would be curious is the same will be found there?

ASIDE- on a recent past trip I noted that my debit card (which has no chip) would not work in many ATMs around Medellin. Almost all required a "chip". The ATMs on the wall as you enter west end of Mall Oviedo (nearest the cambios) do process cards without chip. Also the ATM at RIO casino in San Diego does as well. In centro I had real difficulty getting cash without a chip.[/QUOTE]In January 2015 very little difference between travel cheques and US $ cash with rates. 50's and 100's best rates on cash. I never carry TC's in south america but carry them in thailand along with cash and debit cards. A good backup if ATM's down or they run out of money on a weekend.

Just back from my first nine day trip to Medellin. I stayed at Ibis Medellin around 38 USD per night. Taxi in Medellin are very cheap.

Day time action.

During day time I hit Centro casa. I use the casa map that can be found on the board. I try using google map to go the casa but not successful so decide to give exact address to taxi driver and they always found the right address. I paid on average 40000 COP for half hour and give 20000 COP for BBBJ if girl agrees. Half of the girls want to give only covered BJ therefore no tip.

Night time.

First couple of night I went to mayorista and paid around 60,000 for girl including BBBJ and 20000 for the room. After two night, I went to Fase 11 and the cost I paid 10000 cover, 16000 beer, 180000 for girl and room and 30000 BBBJ tip. I also went to Luna Lunera (Calle 33 # 63 be-215) strip club, no cover. And paid 140000 (room included) + 20000 BBBJ. I also went to two centro strip club, the difference in centro strip club is that you negotiate the price with the girl.

I want to thank everyone on the board for helping out.

Cheers.

Last year I made a really good friend when my buddy got married down there. She is out going and not shy, good friend and kinda don't like she lost her job and it has been hard. She confessed to me she was going to go look into working in Fase, with that I told her if she really needed some help I would try to send some good people down her way. She knows I'm not a saint and have been to fase and similar places. She's not a pro but she's not a saint to haha. Fun girl and wish I could go down to Medellin myself now.

Anyone who's been to this place massage Spa located in the Belen area please provide a review:

Thai Spa.

Sala de Masajes Medellín.

Cra 81 A # 30 AA - 30 Belén La Palma.

Tel: (4) 341 98 90, Celular: 319 480 1704.

Medellín, Antioquia, Colombia.

Horarios Thai Spa.

Lunes a Miércoles: 12:00 am a 10:00 pm.

Jueves a Sábado: 12:00 am a 11:00 pm.

[URL]http://www.thaispa.com.co/inicio.html[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSnjaaW8uN4[/URL]

I found this video about Casa de masajes Andromeda:

According to WT69 map is located in the Centro area at.

Carrera 46 #57 a-21,3rd floor. 6 Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min, 55 k hour. Tel: 231 09 88.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ateVLl1ARm0[/URL]

Any reviews?

[QUOTE=Rick52;1710216]Last year I made a really good friend when my buddy got married down there. She is out going and not shy, good friend and kinda don't like she lost her job and it has been hard. She confessed to me she was going to go look into working in Fase, with that I told her if she really needed some help I would try to send some good people down her way. She knows I'm not a saint and have been to fase and similar places. She's not a pro but she's not a saint to haha. Fun girl and wish I could go down to Medellin myself now.[/QUOTE]

Is she Fase Dos caliber? If yes I would love to have her info, although I am not heading down till October.

You're welcome.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;1709898]I hope this is the appropriate forum. Seeking short time Love Hotel (bring your own girl) with sex furniture. I've stumbled upon them elsewhere, but never in MDE.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Is this video [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YoTyujLAyQ[/URL] from Club the Amigas Sexi?

Club Amigas Sexi.

Teléfono: 2545736.

Direccióand: Cra 45 D 57 67.

Ciudad: Medellíand.

Zona: BOSTON.

And does anyone know the name and location of this place?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRKB2F_LKT4[/URL]

[QUOTE=PapiQueRico;1710308]Is she Fase Dos caliber? If yes I would love to have her info, although I am not heading down till October.[/QUOTE]I forgot to add the pictures on that post but here she is. I would say sobut that's me.

Hey guys,

I am heading to Medellin next week for a visit. The info I have read here on the thread is great. I definitely got an agenda made for my trip.

Will post some reviews after I start my adventures in MDE. Just wanted to say thank you!

Rick 52-I'd like to meet your friend if I can you PM me her info.

Colombia Jake- I wish I would have seen your website before I booked my hotel so I could have met Karen.

Thanks again fellas.

HuRICKcain.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;1709898]I hope this is the appropriate forum. Seeking short time Love Hotel (bring your own girl) with sex furniture. I've stumbled upon them elsewhere, but never in MDE.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Ibiza is pretty good, its close to Poblado and the rooms are nice. There is another one in near Laurelles but I forgot the name. It's alittle cheaper (maybe $10) but also just as good.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1710588]Ibiza is pretty good, its close to Poblado and the rooms are nice. There is another one in near Laurelles but I forgot the name. It's alittle cheaper (maybe $10) but also just as good.[/QUOTE]Hotel Ibiza is no where near Poblado. Maybe closer than to Laurelles. Ibiza is a couple of blocks from (Club) Fahreinheit and a short walk to Mayorista.

[QUOTE=Almotu;1710927]Hotel Ibiza is no where near Poblado. Maybe closer than to Laurelles. Ibiza is a couple of blocks from (Club) Fahreinheit and a short walk to Mayorista.[/QUOTE]Hotel or Motel Ibiza [URL]http://motelibiza.com/[/URL] located at Cr 42 andº 79-39 Autopista Sur, ItagüI – Antioquia PBX:448 49 69 Email: [EMAIL]info@motelibiza.com[/EMAIL] is not where near Laureles. If the motel is a short walk to Mayorista as you said then that means it is in the town of Itaqui which is far from both towns, Laureles and Poblado.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1707097]Do any of hot girls from the strip clubs do todo de noche, all nighters at the hotel of the person?

What would be the total cost including the takeout fee. (USD?

I will try at first to go to the strip clubs and try to get the numbers of the girls and call them when they get out of work or next day to.

Avoid the take out fee.

My type is the esperanza gomez type girls, big boobs, and all. Also will they do BBJ?[/QUOTE]VegasCrazyGuy knows what he's talking about. Good job man.

As far as takeout fee, I usually just get their whatsapp and work the deal in person. Many will charge the same price the fee is in the strip club.

All nighters. Probably will cost you more if its anything more than an hour. Depends on how good your Spanish is. I worked a deal out with a hot paisa for 150 k. For an hour and half. And to bring me food. LOL not bad.

Also, check out New Life in Parque Bolivar. I'd go there around 1 ish. Most of the girls go to school and half kids. After they're done. The hot ones get to working. Do not go around 7. All the hot ones are being used, tired, getting ready to leave, or have left. I went there w / a buddy and all the left overs came out. They were 4's and 5's. And for Medellin. Very disappointing.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1711331]Hotel or Motel Ibiza [URL]http://motelibiza.com/[/URL] located at Cr 42 and 79-39 Autopista Sur, ItagI Antioquia PBX:448 49 69 Email: [EMAIL]info@motelibiza.com[/EMAIL] is not where near Laureles. If the motel is a short walk to Mayorista as you said then that means it is in the town of Itaqui which is far from both towns, Laureles and Poblado.[/QUOTE]Hey,

Just curious. Why not stay in apartment.

Zandaly- Appro. 8 girls. My fav flaquita is gone. 2-3 doable. Picked Natalie. Not a gorgeous girl, but cute and carinosa. She tried hard to please me.

Fusion- 6 girls, most doable. I have been with two flaquitas and one big boobs at this casa last week. All nice personality, and friendly. Nice mamasan too. I like this casa. There is a nice seafood restaurant, Cuba why Mar, one block from the casa.

Chhicas punto. My ex-fav casa. 20 girls, 2-3 doable. I picked a beautiful skinny and tall girl. She was not friendly, so I won't go back there for a while.

All these casas charge about cp37 m h / h, 55 m h.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1712336]Zandaly- Appro. 8 girls. My fav flaquita is gone. 2-3 doable. Picked Natalie. Not a gorgeous girl, but cute and carinosa. She tried hard to please me.

Fusion- 6 girls, most doable. I have been with two flaquitas and one big boobs at this casa last week. All nice personality, and friendly. Nice mamasan too. I like this casa. There is a nice seafood restaurant, Cuba why Mar, one block from the casa.

Chhicas punto. My ex-fav casa. 20 girls, 2-3 doable. I picked a beautiful skinny and tall girl. She was not firendly, so I won't go back there for a while.

All these casas charge about cp37 m h / h, 55 m h.[/QUOTE]Casas take drastic swings. Punto com used to be the place where all the hot flacas were. Not so much any more. And Fusion took a crap for months, and suddenly they have a couple of little smokers. Never know.

For staying in Medellin, I prefer the apartment option to hotels. If you find an affordable apartment in the Itaqui / Majorista area let me know. I only posted the link of [URL]http://motelibiza.com/[/URL] to correct someone who posted wrongly that it was nearby the town of Laureles when it is near Majorista. In my next trip which is coming pretty soon, I plan to stay at in an apartment in the Laureles area: [URL]http://tuapartamentomde.com/[/URL] and will consider a night in the Itaqui / majorista area in a hotel at either the [URL]http://www.despegar.com.co/hoteles/h-482712/hotel-macedonia-plaza-medellinin[/URL] or [URL]http://www.hotelalcaravan.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=PaisaHunter;1712254]Hey,

Just curious. Why not stay in apartment.[/QUOTE]

I will be there this weekend and if someone can tell me which casa has the best talent right now 8,9, &10's would be nice. Also any idea roughly how many girls are hanging.

Around the mansion in the evening? Plus which strip club is more promising right now? I thank you in advance for your help.

Anyone know where I can see a map of Medellin and all the monger offerings? I kinda want to stay in an area that's in the middle of the red light.

[QUOTE=Bluem;1712730]I will be there this weekend and if someone can tell me which casa has the best talent right now 8,9, &10's would be nice. Also any idea roughly how many girls are hanging.

Around the mansion in the evening? Plus which strip club is more promising right now? I thank you in advance for your help.[/QUOTE]No casa has 8,9, &10's. Most have 4,5,6, and maybe a 7 if you find a gem. As one who dislikes bolt ONS I wouldn't even consider the most upscale casas to have such lofty beauties. We are talking about places that offer $15 quickies. They are great for what they are, but be realistic.

Don't say I never help why'all lazy mofo's out. Especially the last 3 bumbs that posted for help today.

Its in spanish but I hope your not lazy enough to use G-translate.

Its separated by nieghborhoods in Medellin. If you look at G-maps you will see the areas.

Casas-Salas de Masajes DAY TIME ACTION.

Conquistadores.

1. Taberna Luna Lunera, Avenida 33, # 63 B – 201/215.

Las Palmas.

1. Lejano Oriente, Carrera 41 # 18 D-55. Tel: 4-266-1068,4-311-5947.

Villa Nueva.

1. Casa de Piedra, Lindas Chicas Calle 58 # 50 A-54. Tel: 254 0598.

2. New Life, Calle 56 Bolivia # 43-39,2 Tel: 216-2704.

Prado.

1. Barcelona Sala de Massajes, Calle 59 # 50-12. Tel: 254-2994.

2. Monte Caprino, Carrera 50 # 60-47. Tel: 57 4 254 1578.

LOS Angeles.

1. Aiffe, Carrera 45 # 58-69 Apt 101. Tel: 57 4 254 5139.

2. Angeles de Fuego, Calle 58 # 45 D-104.

Villa Nueva.

1. Kamasutra, Calle 53 42-74 P-3. Tel: 57 4 216 3615.

2. Alejas, Calle 54 # 42-13. Tel: 216 9602.

3. Abedos Abedul, Calle 57 # 46-12.

4. ?Play Model, Calle 57 # 50-19.

5. Venus, Calle 58 # 49-68. Tel: 254 6681.

6. Bell Suite UTP, Carrera 45 # 56-45. Tel: 284-7597.

7. Sexi Sala De Masajes, Carrera 45 # 57-55.

8. Geishas 1, Carrera 50 A # 53-38.

9. Casa Blanca, Carrera 50 A # 57-38 Tel: 231-6432.

La Candelaria.

1. Egipcias, Calle 49 # 43-12 Tel: 228-1722.

2. Estambul, Calle 49 # 43-68.

3. Masajes 55-35, Carrera 43 # 55-35.

4. Geishas 2, Carrera 43 # 56-47.

5. Masajes Zandaly *Afroditas, Carrera 43 #56-49.

6. Atenea Sala de Massajes, Sucre Carrera 47 # 45 - 42 primer piso. Tel: 511-3976.

7. Latinas -Athena. La Fins, Sucre Carrera 47 # 53-42 Piso 1, diagonal teatro sinfonia.

8. Inversions Sucre, Carrera 47 # 56-34.

9. Masajistas Paisas, Calle 53 # 42-56.

Fatima.

1. Samsara, Avenida 33 # 65-09, Calle 33 and Calle 65.

Las Acacias.

1. Blue Room, Calle 33 # 78-63. Tel: 250-0363.

Conquistadores.

1. Abydos, Calle 33 # 64 A-198 at Carrera 64. Tel: 235-3031.

2. Mi Piel, Carrera 66 AA # 34-61.

San Joaquin.

1. Cassandra Miel why Canela, Carrera 68 A # 43-16 Tel: 235-3436.

Estadio.

1. Energy, Carrera 74 # 49-101, at.

LOS Pinos.

1. Sweet Lady, Carrera 80 # 44 B-287.

Loma de LOS Balsos.

1. Loutron, Calle 12 Sur # 10-245. Tel: 311-1179.

Guayaquil.

Nana, Carrera 57 # 48-09. Oriental #48=09.

CLUBES. STRIP CLUBS.

Perpetuo Socorro.

1. Fase Dos, Carerra 44 # 30-27. Tel: 232-1878.

SurAmericana.

1. Catanga Disco Club, Calle 50 # 67 - 45.

2. Encuentros Club, Calle 50 # 68 - 89 Tel: 230 50 14.

Estadio.

1. Licores why Compania, Carrera 74 # 42 - 97. Tel: 230-65 68.

2. Torre Show, Carrera 74 # 49 – 127,80 con San Juan #43 - 42. Tel: 230 6945.

LOS Pinos.

1. Nemesis Club, Calle 44 # 78 - 90.

2. Pegasos Club, Calle 44 # 80-15.

La Candelaria.

1. Bar Metropol, Calle 47 # 45-11. Tel: 251-5699.

2. Rincon LEO, Calle 50 # 68-53.

3. Ejecutivo, Calle 53 # 48-20.25-40.

5. Las Americana, Calle 53 # 49-50.25-40.

6. Las Gatas, Carrera 50 # 52-94.

7. Conejitas, Carrera 52 # 53-03.

8. Grill Occidental, Carrera 52 # 53-158. Tel: 231-2326.

Jesus Nazareno.

1. La Manzana, Calle 65 # 52-69.

San Juan.

1. Apoteosis Club, Calle 44 # 74-70.

San Diego.

1. Grill San Diego (Disco), see. See. Milanesa Local 104, Calle 37 # 45-15. Tel: 261 0476,262 9978.

STRIP CLUBS.

Villa Nueva / La Candelaria:

Las Americas, Calle 53 # 49-50.25-30 Chicas. Horario: Lunes a sabado. 2 pm a 3 am, Cerrado LOS domingos.

Club Maracaibo, Calle 53 # 49-30.25-30 Chicas. Horario: Lunes a sabado. 6 pm a 2 am.

La Barra / Ejecutivo, Calle 53 # 48-20.25-40 Chicas. Horario: Lunes a Domingo. 6 pm a 2 am.

Grill Occidental, Carrera 52 # 53-158. Tel: 231 23 26. Horario: 6 pm a 2 am.

Conejitas Bar Show, Carrera 52 # 53-03. Tel: (57) (4) 251 62 68. Horario: Lunes a Domingo. 6 pm a 3 am.

Sonorama, Calle 52, #49-72.40 Chicas. Tel: 231 0034. Horario: 2 pm a 2 am.

Catanga Disco Club, Calle 50 #67-45. Tel: 230 07 37.

Encuentros Club, Calle 50 #68-89. Tel: 230 50 14.

Perpetuo Socorro / San Diego:

San Diego Grill (Show Club), see. See. Milanesa Local 104, Calle 37 # 45-15. Tel: 261 04 76,262 99 78. Horario: 8 pm a 2 am.

FASE II (Dos), Carrera 44 # 30-27,30-40 Chicas. Tel: 232 18 78. Horario: 7 pm a 4 am.

"La Dolce Vita", Calle 31 #44-109. Tel: 261-1510, cel: 3167494800.

SurAmericana / Estadio:

Encuentros Club, Calle 50 (Colombia) # 68.89, Tel: 230 50 14. Horario: 6 pm a 2 am. Abierto LOS Domingos.

El Velodromo:

Disco Club 44 (Apoteosis Club), Carrera 70 #73-52,15-30 Chicas. Tel: (57) (4) 416 66 64. Horario: 5 pm a 2 am. Abierto LOS domingos.

LOS Conquistadores (LA 33):

Luna Lunera Enlacex Club, Calle (Avenida) 33, # 63 B-219.10-15 Chicas. Tel: PBX (574) 235 4700, Cel: 320 664 60 61. Horario: abierto 24 horas.

Samsara Club (Massage), Calle (Avenida) 33 # 65-09.6-10 Chicas. Tel: (57) (4) 265 71 23, Cel: 314 638 28 93. Horario: 10 am a 10 pm, Viernes a Domingo 10 am a 6 am.

El Nogal. (Occidente) al Rio Medellin:

Club Anfitrion, Calle 33 # 76-93.6-8 Chicas. Tel: 416 66 01. Cel: 301 5657479.

Hostal Malevaje (Bar), Av. 33 # 76-85, piso 2. 3+Chicas. Tel: 250 35 32.

Erotic massage / Casas.

Jesus Nazareno / Prado. (Occidente):

La Manzana, (Remates) Calle 65 # 52-69, detras del Hospital. Horario: Lunes a Domingo desde las 9 pm.

Calle 65 # 52-73, detras del Hospital. Horario: Lunes a Domingo desde las 9 pm.

Alejas, Carrera 53 #61 A-19. Tel: 511 99 66, Cel: 312 716 64 18. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7 pm.

Artesanias, Calle 61 (Moore) #53-78. Tel: 512 06 59. Horario: Lunes a Domingo. 10 am a 5 pm.

Prado. (Oriente):

Barcelona Sala de Massajes, Calle 59 (Cuba) # 50-12.3-5 Chicas. Tel: 254 29 94. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7:30 pm. Domingos 11 am a 5 pm.

Villa Nueva. (Oriente):

Geishas, Calle 58 # 51-40, Tel: (57) (4) 251 43 83, Cel: 311 395 32 30. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7 pm.

Casa de Piedra, (Lindas Chicas) Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 50 A-54, Tel: 034 254 05 98. Horario: 24/7 o 10 pm a 6 am.

Casa Verde / Divinas Club (La Mansion Verde), (Venus) , Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 49-68, piso 2. Tel: 254 66 81, Cel: 317 527 81 38. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7:30 pm. Domingos 10:30 am a 5 pm.

Angeles de Fuego, Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 45 D-104. Tel: (57) (4) 254 40 54, Cel: 311 381 9198. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm.

Nana, Calle 57 A # 48-05, Tel: 512 78 69. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 9 am a 7 pm. Domingos why Festivos 10 am a 5 pm.

Casa de Fantasias, (Latins Suite) (Playmodels) , (Pasarela) , Calle 57 (La Paz) # 50-19. Tel: 511 38 76,511 54 75, Cel: 317 422 6042. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7 pm. Domingos why Festivos 11 am a 5 pm.

Sala de Masajes Shannon, (Shalinax) Calle 57 # 42-12. Tel: 254 69 90. Horario: 10 am a 10 pm, Domingos 11 am a 5 pm.

Sexy Fantasias 1, (SSChina) (Amsterdan) , Calle 54 (Caracas) # 49-97, piso 3, Local 321, see. See. El Cid, piso 3, Tel: 511 45 33. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7 pm, Domingos why Festivos 11 am a 5 pm.

Puntocon, Carrera 50 A # 53-38. Tel: 291 11 82. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm.

Masajes Zandaly (Afroditas), Carrera 47 #57 A-34, piso 2. Tel: (57) (4) 251 20 74. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm. Domingos 10 am a 4 pm.

Paris Club, Carrera 47 #56-34. Tel: 511 53 31. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7:30 pm, Domingos why festivos 11 am a 5 pm.

Sexy Fantasias 2, (Latinas) , (Atenas) , (La Fins) , Carrera 47 (Sucre) # 53-42, piso 1, (Hotel Premium Plaza) , (diagonal Teatro Sinfonia) Tel: 511 39 76. Horario: Lunes a sabado 10 am a 7:30 pm, Domingos 11 am a 5 pm.

Villa Nueva - (Oriente) Carrera 46 (Av. J. E. Gaitan / Av. Oriental):

Relax, (Camila) Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-71, piso 2, Tel: 254 86 22. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7 pm, Domingos why Festivos 11 am a 5 pm.

Sexi Sala De Masajes, Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-55. Tel: (57) (4) 284 83 86. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm, Domingos why Festivos 11 am a 4 pm.

Masajes Sexy, Carrera 45 D # 57-67.10-15 Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm, Domingos 10 am a 4 pm.

Aiffe, Calle 57 (Argentina) #43-27 Tel: (57) (4) 254 51 39, Cel: 311 761 98 50. Horario: Lunes a Jueves 10 am a 8 pm, Viernes why Sabado 10 am a 9 pm, Domingos 11 am a 5 pm.

Ven & Relajete (Atenea), Carrera 45 (El Palo) #55-45, entre Peru why Bolivia. Tel: 254 52 34. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7:30 pm, Domingos why Festivos 11 am a 5 pm.

Bell Suite UTP, Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 56-45, piso 1. Tel: 284 75 97. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm, Domingos 11 am a 5 pm.

New Life, Calle 56 (Bolivia) # 43-39,2 piso, Tel: 216 27 04. Horario: Lunes a Sabado. 9 am a 8 pm, Domingos 10 am a 6 pm.

Masajes 55.35, Carrera 43 # 55-35. Tel: 216 31 37. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm.

Aleja S. A. S, Calle 54 # 42-13. Tel: 216 96 02. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm.

Angeles & Demonios, Calle 53 # 43-07 3 er Piso. Tel: 239 47 41.

Masajistas Paisas, Calle 53 (Av. De Grieff) # 42-56. Tel: 217 53 96. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm.

Club Seduccion, Carrera 43 (Girardot) # 52-45. Tel: 2 39 36 20. Horario: 10 am a 7:30 pm.

Bombona. (Oriente) Parque Berrio:

Encuentros (Estambul), Calle 49 # 43-68, piso 2. Tel: (57) (4) 239 89 42. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 7:30 pm, Domingos why Festivos 10 am a 5 pm.

Estadio. (Occidente) Rio Medellin:

Energy (Centro de Relajacion Corporal Energy) , Carrera 74 # 49-101, Tel: 436 11 31,416 83 32. Horario: Domingo a Domingo 9 am a 9:30 pm.

LOS Conquistadores. (Occidente) Rio Medellin detras del cerro nutibara:

Abydos, Avenida 33 # 64-198. Tel: 235 30 31. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 11 am a 9 pm.

LOS Angeles, Calle 33 # 65 C-10, Int 201, Tel: 351 50 29. Horario: 24/7 con cita, o Jueves a Sabado 8 pm a 6 am.

Fatima. (Occidente) Rio Medellin, detras del Cerro Nutibara:

Kassandra (Miel why Canela) , Carrera 65 # 32 A-43. Tel: 235 34 36,265 36 56, Cel: 312 206 49 85. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 10 am a 8 pm.

LOS Amendros. (Occidente) Rio Medellin:

Blue Room, Calle 33 # 78-63. Tel: 250 03 63,416 83 32,436 11 31. Horario: Lunes a Sabado 11 am a 9:30 pm.

Santa Fe:

Masajes La Noche, Carrera 52 (Av. Guayabal) #25-84, Tel: 316 00 02, Cel: 310 839 97 75. Horario: 8 pm a 6 am de Domingo a Domingo.

Loma de LOS Balsos:

Loutron, Calle 12 Sur # 10-245. Tel: 321 44 90,444 42 04. Horario: Lunes a Jueves 12 m a 11 pm, Viernes why Sabado 12 m a 9 pm.

El Poblado:

Centro de Masajes Pekin, Calle 10 A # 43 A-31, Apt 201, El Poblado. Tel: 268 64 22. Horario: 10 am a 8 pm.

About 6 girls. None of them are bonita, as of now.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1710281]I found this video about Casa de masajes Andromeda:

According to WT69 map is located in the Centro area at.

Carrera 46 #57 a-21,3rd floor. 6 Chicas. Prices: __k 30 min, 55 k hour. Tel: 231 09 88.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ateVLl1ARm0[/URL]

Any reviews?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1709479]I apologize.[/QUOTE]No problem as long as the criticism isn't motivated through competition, which I'm sure it wasn't I have no problem with talking smack about looks and likes and dislikes!

Thanks, Jake.

[QUOTE=PapiQueRico;1713042]No casa has 8,9, &10's. Most have 4,5,6, and maybe a 7 if you find a gem. As one who dislikes bolt ONS I wouldn't even consider the most upscale casas to have such lofty beauties. We are talking about places that offer $15 quickies. They are great for what they are, but be realistic.[/QUOTE]I am planning to visit Colombia this year, only because I want to meet 8's, 9's and 10's. I am not visiting Colombia because it seems to be cheaper than other countries. I am reading this forum since 3-4 months to get prepared for this trip.

So where do I meet 8's, 9's and 10's WG's in Colombia? I am more the LT than the ST monger and like to build a "relationship" with the ladies and like GF.

You answers would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Easyease

[QUOTE=EasyEase;1713303]I am planning to visit Colombia this year, only because I want to meet 8's, 9's and 10's. I am not visiting Colombia because it seems to be cheaper than other countries. I am reading this forum since 3-4 months to get prepared for this trip.

So where do I meet 8's, 9's and 10's WG's in Colombia? I am more the LT than the ST monger and like to build a "relationship" with the ladies and like GF.

You answers would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Easyease[/QUOTE]First understand that the truly outstanding women in Colombia are not waiting around for gringos. They have extremely wealthy Colombians paying for their time and bodies. For the best of what we have easy access to I would say check out La Isla (or whatever it is being called these days). The more upscale casas like Energy and Abydos usually have higher quality than the "down town casas" but not IMO 9's and 10's. Lutrons is known for having beauties but I hate silly cones so they don't impress me.

There are some escort websites that have pretty women but it is totally hit or miss in terms of personal connection. No interview process.

When people speak of the beauty of the women in MDE I think they are referring to the general elevated level of the women there. I always enjoy a cab ride around town in daylight. The women are just fine to look at and carry themselves in a sexy manner. For a lot of them pretty much all they have are their looks and they play it to the max.

All this said I don't really know what you call a 9 or 10. For me 10's don't exist because there is no such thing as perfection. What attracts you and what attracts me might be very different.

I missed meeting her my last two trips.

[URL]http://www.prepagoseroticas.com/angelina-sexual-escort-en-medellin-con-sede-en-medellin/988/[/URL]

I would appreciate very much if someone has any info about her; is she really so hot in reality. She seems to be free from silicone but even so even more sexier than many of the really hot one's, 9's and 10's!

On the spanish site she get's an 8, but an 11 (for her place; her business is obviosly going very well!

Here is recent fotos; [URL]http://masajistaspaisas.com/angel-sexual-apartamento-poblado-prepagos-61315.html[/URL].

Might be one of the hottest prepagos medellin has to offer!

Yes, she lacks big breasts, and as a guy just said; there are really no 9's and 10's since beauty has some artistic about it; symmetri is beautiful, but to much of it makes it artifical!

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1712585]For staying in Medellin, I prefer the apartment option to hotels. If you find an affordable apartment in the Itaqui / Majorista area let me know. I only posted the link of [URL]http://motelibiza.com/[/URL] to correct someone who posted wrongly that it was nearby the town of Laureles when it is near Majorista. In my next trip which is coming pretty soon, I plan to stay at in an apartment in the Laureles area: [URL]http://tuapartamentomde.com/[/URL] and will consider a night in the Itaqui / majorista area in a hotel at either the [URL]http://www.despegar.com.co/hoteles/h-482712/hotel-macedonia-plaza-medellinin[/URL] or [URL]http://www.hotelalcaravan.com/[/URL].[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Alcaravan a few months back cost was a little over 20.00 a night at the time no problem bringing girls in a 2 minute walk to where the girls were lined up and close to the metro as well only negative was no AC in rooms just a fan.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1713690]I missed meeting her my last two trips.

[URL]http://www.prepagoseroticas.com/angelina-sexual-escort-en-medellin-con-sede-en-medellin/988/[/URL]

I would appreciate very much if someone has any info about her; is she really so hot in reality. She seems to be free from silicone but even so even more sexier than many of the really hot one's, 9's and 10's!

On the spanish site she get's an 8, but an 11 (for her place; her business is obviosly going very well!

Here is recent fotos; [URL]http://masajistaspaisas.com/angel-sexual-apartamento-poblado-prepagos-61315.html[/URL].

Might be one of the hottest prepagos medellin has to offer!

Yes, she lacks big breasts, and as a guy just said; there are really no 9's and 10's since beauty has some artistic about it; symmetri is beautiful, but to much of it makes it artifical![/QUOTE]I banged her like twice. Her tits are fake and actually feel hard. I think they put them under neath the breast bone. She has a super Joan rivers surgery face. But that said she is super fuck in the sack. She uses viberators and hitachi on her clit while she fucks. She also can squirt. She is a fuck machine. Her place is nice. She has a cool personality. If you hang enough she starts talking about her family and son etc. But wow what a fuck machine. Also she will not give head no condom no matter how much you tip her. It's CBJ all the way. But you can much her perfect box. Anyway yeah def a must see.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1713901]I banged her like twice. Her tits are fake and actually feel hard. I think they put them under neath the breast bone. She has a super Joan rivers surgery face. But that said she is super fuck in the sack. She uses viberators and hitachi on her clit while she fucks. She also can squirt. She is a fuck machine. Her place is nice. She has a cool personality. If you hang enough she starts talking about her family and son etc. But wow what a fuck machine. Also she will not give head no condom no matter how much you tip her. It's CBJ all the way. But you can much her perfect box. Anyway yeah def a must see.[/QUOTE]Thanks BlueChange!

At the spanish site there is a Top Ten list for Medellin prepagos, Angel comes no. 6!

We whatsapped and yes, after a while all was about her son and parents. Very cool! Very sweet personality!

The list is from escort websites like masajistaspaisas paisasdivinas prepagoseroticas.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1714002]Thanks BlueChange!

At the spanish site there is a Top Ten list for Medellin prepagos, Angel comes no. 6!

We whatsapped and yes, after a while all was about her son and parents. Very cool! Very sweet personality!

The list is from escort websites like masajistaspaisas paisasdivinas prepagoseroticas.[/QUOTE]I don't see how someone could rate that high with CBJ offered only. CBJ is a deal breaker for me no matter how hot the chica looks.

I can get BBBJ from pros on Backpage.com in the States. Definitely not hopping on a plane just to get covered blow jobs.

[QUOTE=OneMansPlan;1713014]Anyone know where I can see a map of Medellin and all the monger offerings? I kinda want to stay in an area that's in the middle of the red light.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?oe=UTF8&dg=feature&ie=UTF8&msa=0&authuser=0&hl=en&mid=zzgTRtD9VTmQ.kn7YEgWmCD9E[/URL]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1714070]I don't see how someone could rate that high with CBJ offered only. CBJ is a deal breaker for me no matter how hot the chica looks.

I can get BBBJ from pros on Backpage.com in the States. Definitely not hopping on a plane just to get covered blow jobs.[/QUOTE]CBJ from a hot chica is a nightmarish experience! I totally agree with you SavePros321.

However, Angel seems to be so sexi, so much of a natural sexmachine that she can get so high score even with CBJ, but the reviewer and maybe his fellow paisas contributers seems happy with it, which is hard to understand for me; BBBJ is the very essence of an erotic pleasant experience, while CBJ is the opposite!

Personally; the whole experience is a waste of money! And often valuable time, and even more energy!

To decrease these kind of disasters; I have learned from my amigas prepagos that BBBJ can be a terrible experience if the penis is dirty and hairy. THAT is nightmarish!

I shave perfectly 100%, shower before going to her place, then there, then I use alcohol-gel, etc, etc, to come so close to 100% clean as possible; and it has had it's positive effect!

As Saint from the Argentina forum says (said); We must not forget that her job is one of the tuffest! She can be socially stigmatized, catch terrible deseases, experience bad hygiene from ruff clients.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1714002]Thanks BlueChange!

At the spanish site there is a Top Ten list for Medellin prepagos, Angel comes no. 6!

We whatsapped and yes, after a while all was about her son and parents. Very cool! Very sweet personality!

The list is from escort websites like masajistaspaisas paisasdivinas prepagoseroticas.[/QUOTE]Yeagh for sure, what site has the top 10?

I am going to MED for the first time. I am not as excited as I was for Cuba. I just wanted to clean my buck list. I don't think I will like MED but I will give it a shot who knows. I am planning to meet DCFan there so he can show me the ropes. I am expecting a lot of casa and I am not a casa monger. I am expecting to be chocolate free so I got some young chocolates from out my system last week for 2 weeks in the DR. Shotout to ProSave for showing the reason I would prefer an apartment over a hotel. Shotout to Mr. E for giving me the low down on the love hotels. I am going to split the differents. I am using a hotel for the first 2 day, During that time I am going to checkout a few apartments in the area. I am going to be in at the HOTEL PLAZUELA SAN IGNACIO. I chose this route just in case the apartment is a wash and just trying to steal an early security deposit. If this a bad move please let me know. I see I won't be in MED until 11:00 pm so I am thinking I won't get to my hotel until 3:00 am. That should be enough time to still hit the late night scene. So I am wearing my club attire to the airport. Should change my date and notify the hotel for an early check in. Or go ahead and pay for the day anyway and notify them I will be checking in the following day early. The hotel was $48 per night. DCFan will be in the area and he said its good hunting around in those parts. I started to setup some dates on Latin America cupid but that shit is time consuming and pans out wasting vacation time on a phyco-chica like Surf did. Bro ProsSave I wanted to go at the time you went but it would have cost an extra $400 in travel and I know you are not playing the radio on budget hotels and apartment. DCFan seems like a good Sub. Teacher after reading his trip reports. He told me off the rip no high end brothels. Sound like my type of Ninja. LOL.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714220]I am going to MED for the first time. I am not as excited as I was for Cuba. I just wanted to clean my buck list. I don't think I will like MED but I will give it a shot who knows. I am planning to meet DCFan there so he can show me the ropes. I am expecting a lot of casa and I am not a casa monger. I am expecting to be chocolate free so I got some young chocolates from out my system last week for 2 weeks in the DR. Shotout to ProSave for showing the reason I would prefer an apartment over a hotel. Shotout to Mr. E for giving me the low down on the love hotels. I am going to split the differents. I am using a hotel for the first 2 day, During that time I am going to checkout a few apartments in the area. I am going to be in at the HOTEL PLAZUELA SAN IGNACIO. I chose this route just in case the apartment is a wash and just trying to steal an early security deposit. If this a bad move please let me know. I see I won't be in MED until 11:00 pm so I am thinking I won't get to my hotel until 3:00 am. That should be enough time to still hit the late night scene. So I am wearing my club attire to the airport. Should change my date and notify the hotel for an early check in. Or go ahead and pay for the day anyway and notify them I will be checking in the following day early. The hotel was $48 per night. DCFan will be in the area and he said its good hunting around in those parts. I started to setup some dates on Latin America cupid but that shit is time consuming and pans out wasting vacation time on a phyco-chica like Surf did. Bro ProsSave I wanted to go at the time you went but it would have cost an extra $400 in travel and I know you are not playing the radio on budget hotels and apartment. DCFan seems like a good Sub. Teacher after reading his trip reports. He told me off the rip no high end brothels. Sound like my type of Ninja. LOL.[/QUOTE]I will be there starting the 28th of May. Suggest you stay in El Centro the first couple of nights. Hotels can be had for as low as $ 10 a night. Medellin is not anything like Sosua. Wearing club attire to the Airport, are you nuts. Also I met my psycho chica at the beach! If your arriving late at night then one night at the Hotel you suggested is okay but if arriving during the day there are plenty of Hotels you could stay at for cheap until you find an apartment. I have booked a room at Hotel Torre Poblado by Parque Lleras and will also be getting a $ 10 a night room in El Centro.

Telling a first-timer to MDE, [B] especially[/B] one who would even consider arriving wearing "club attire," to stay in El Centro is akin to suggesting that a chicken stay in a fox den.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714220]I am expecting a lot of casa and I am not a casa monger.[/QUOTE]Please read this as constructive criticism, my friend:

I know you told me that you were not considering staying at the mansion, but I don't see why you didn't take it into the equation considering you are saying you will be hitting a lot of casas. You are going for mechanical sex CBJ fuck houses (Casas) when you could have stayed in a place with a 90% or greater chance of GFE (and definitely BBBJ). I would have even advised that you hit up Colombian Jake and stayed at his place / have him show you around your first two nights if you didn't want to go the Mansion route. Both the Mansion and Jake would bring the girls to you and would not introduce you to chicas who are known to be poor performers (if these establishments care enough about their reputations).

Just reading your agenda it seems that you are going to be trying to do too much for a first time visitor. There is no way I would have been trying to do as much as you have on my first trip without having someone show me the ropes previously, especially at 2 or 3 am in El Centro. Having DCFan helping you will be a plus, but I imagine that he will not be wanting to hold your hand your entire trip.

Most of us started at gringo central (Mansion), which gave us a chance to get our footing and branch out. You have staff their that will translate for you, order taxi's for you, help you to order food, etc. The translation help pays for itself. Imagine trying to direct a chica to your hotel and not being able to give her the directions because you don't speak Spanish well, nor can understand what she is saying to you (especially if she is lost because her taxi driver has no idea where the hell he is going, which happens more often than not). Being able to pass one of the staff members the phone and have them tell your chica or her taxi driver exactly how to find where you are staying is gold.

I can't stress enough how important Spanish is needed for Medellin. You can't order a pizza without it, you can't communicate with your taxi driver other than pointing to the physical address you may have written down, you can't even ask for help if you've been robbed. My first trip there while staying at the mansion I met two other guys who I went on a casa run with. Between the three of us we managed to communicate in slightly passable Spanish.

I'm sure you'll do fine, but it looks like you are going to be doing a lot of work.

EDIT: See Dickhead's post below mine. As you can see, no one is trying to steer you wrong here. Everyone is different, but telling a newbie with kindergarten Spanish to set up shop in El Centro is the last thing I would recommend to a first-timer.

I speak fluent Spanish and El Centro is dangerous day or night.

Paradoxically, those who don't speak Spanish or other foreign languages may not see dangers, or what's goin on entirely, in El Centro.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1714253]I speak fluent Spanish and El Centro is dangerous day or night.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1714240]Please read this as constructive criticism, my friend:

I know you told me that you were not considering staying at the mansion, but I don't see why you didn't take it into the equation considering you are saying you will be hitting a lot of casas. You are going for mechanical sex CBJ fuck houses (Casas) when you could have stayed in a place with a 90% or greater chance of GFE (and definitely BBBJ). I would have even advised that you hit up Colombian Jake and stayed at his place / have him show you around your first two nights if you didn't want to go the Mansion route. Both the Mansion and Jake would bring the girls to you and would not introduce you to chicas who are known to be poor performers (if these establishments care enough about their reputations).

Just reading your agenda it seems that you are going to be trying to do too much for a first time visitor. There is no way I would have been trying to do as much as you have on my first trip without having someone show me the ropes previously, especially at 2 or 3 am in El Centro. Having DCFan helping you will be a plus, but I imagine that he will not be wanting to hold your hand your entire trip.

Most of us started at gringo central (Mansion), which gave us a chance to get our footing and branch out. You have staff their that will translate for you, order taxi's for you, help you to order food, etc. The translation help pays for itself...[/QUOTE]I think Grownman will be able to pull it off staying in El Centro as a newbie to Medellin as he has street smarts. He speaks enough Spanish and you are correct that Spanish is necessary there as nobody speaks English. I spent 10 days in El Centro on my last trip and had no problems but am fortunate that I can pass for a Colombian and speak enough Spanish to get by. I stayed at the Premier Plaza Hotel right opposite Botero Plaza and adjacent to the Church. Lots of daytime action around this area, bars around the corner, and Avenida De La Grief two blocks away. Very sketchy at night though as others have noted and if you look like a foreigner / gringo it can be dangerous. I know a guy who went there, is an obvious gringo, speaks no Spanish, stayed at the same hotel I did and survived without incident, but I think he was lucky.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714220]I am going to MED for the first time. I am not as excited as I was for Cuba. I just wanted to clean my buck list. I don't think I will like MED but I will give it a shot who knows. I am planning to meet DCFan there so he can show me the ropes. I am expecting a lot of casa and I am not a casa monger. I am expecting to be chocolate free so I got some young chocolates from out my system last week for 2 weeks in the DR. Shotout to ProSave for showing the reason I would prefer an apartment over a hotel. Shotout to Mr. E for giving me the low down on the love hotels. I am going to split the differents. I am using a hotel for the first 2 day, During that time I am going to checkout a few apartments in the area. I am going to be in at the HOTEL PLAZUELA SAN IGNACIO. I chose this route just in case the apartment is a wash and just trying to steal an early security deposit. If this a bad move please let me know. I see I won't be in MED until 11:00 pm so I am thinking I won't get to my hotel until 3:00 am. That should be enough time to still hit the late night scene. So I am wearing my club attire to the airport. Should change my date and notify the hotel for an early check in. Or go ahead and pay for the day anyway and notify them I will be checking in the following day early. The hotel was $48 per night. DCFan will be in the area and he said its good hunting around in those parts. I started to setup some dates on Latin America cupid but that shit is time consuming and pans out wasting vacation time on a phyco-chica like Surf did. Bro ProsSave I wanted to go at the time you went but it would have cost an extra $400 in travel and I know you are not playing the radio on budget hotels and apartment. DCFan seems like a good Sub. Teacher after reading his trip reports. He told me off the rip no high end brothels. Sound like my type of Ninja. LOL.[/QUOTE]After just introducing you to Cuba a few months ago and having a ball let me give you some advise bro on MDE. Don't get caught up in the budget shit, just have fun. I rented a penthouse apt for 80 a night with great views and chicas loved it. My first two times I stayed in El Poblado,(check pic) very upper middle class and close to Parque Lleras, but also very hilly, my calf received a very goof workout. Then I stayed at Envigo, very middle class and not so hilly.

As far as girls I would use the casas as a backup plan. The girls in MDE are very sweet and will make you fall for them, plus there is chocolate there but very limited. You won't find the skinny waist and big asses I know you will desire, but you will find sweet girls.

Here's what I did; I would spend the nights hanging out and checking out all the establishments and if I saw something I like I would have her for an afternoon delight the next day. I would get them fresh before work and spend the afternoon and evening with them before work. We would fuck, eat pizza, fuck, wrestle, fuck then listen to music and fuck. I would give 120 k-140 k (60-70) for the afternoon for no rush service. That way you a more full experience and some 30 minute hump. You will need someone like DCfan to help you with logistics. As small as MDE is cabbies don't seem to know where anything is. Ghetto ass Mayorista is a must see but I wouldn't advise fucking with those coked up girls but sometimes guys find deals there, just keep your guard up. Parque illeras is a good daytime hangout. Take the subway at El Pablado and get off at San Antonio station and shop the bazars during the day is fun.

They drink different in MDE also. You buy the bottle with shot glasses and they bring you chasers. The girls will come around and give you conversation but will try to hit a shot. What I do is put some gum in the shot glasses to prevent every girl from drinking your liquor. Colombia has a lot of drugs available for cheap so be on the lookout for druggies when doing your interview. Again, when you venture out go with a veteran.

[QUOTE=ColombiaJake;1689885]Its been a really good winter season and just want to thank all the guys that have come down and had so much fun here on their vacations! Things are starting to slow down for the summer, but I'm always here to get you up to speed in a hurry! Our newest girl is Geraldine and there are a lot better shots of her but I can assure you she aims to please and she's nice to look at and be around.

Thanks,

Jake[/QUOTE]Ahhh Melissa from the Mayorista. Or Geraldine / random ho name. Fantastic provider, Highly recommend.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1714279]After just introducing you to Cuba a few months ago and having a ball let me give you some advise bro on MDE. Don't get caught up in the budget shit, just have fun. I rented a penthouse apt for 80 a night with great views and chicas loved it.

They drink different in MDE also. You buy the bottle with shot glasses and they bring you chasers. The girls will come around and give you conversation but will try to hit a shot. What I do is put some gum in the shot glasses to prevent every girl from drinking your liquor. Colombia has a lot of drugs available for cheap so be on the lookout for druggies when doing your interview. Again, when you venture out go with a veteran.[/QUOTE]Shit Mr. G you know my money isn't as long as yours. I'm always on a budget. I'll ball on a budget. If you had a pen house for 80. I will take the pencil house for the 35. That's why I didn't take the mansion. It sounds like an over rated but well known spot for Americans. And I have learned from Cuba that the chicas that work around the will known spots are more mechanical. They are use to seeing Americans come and go. And they expect to be paid higher then the average. I think it will be more like Rumba chicas in the mansion. DCFan is offering to me what you offered. Getting a way from the touristy adventures and more into the daily life of the country. I know it can be risky however I don't mind adventuring to less chartered but seeded area. If I go to the mansion most of the chica are been there done that to the board. Imaging someone having to post a picture of a new chica because the others are ran through old news. By the time you get to the new girl she has been done 10 times over. I like the trill of the hunt. I heard the coke is the best in the world but that's not my thing. I don't mind a chica getting her straight line on. I hope the weed is good as well! I don't drink since my liver problems. But I will put one in the air.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714443]Shit Mr. G you know my money isn't as long as yours. I'm always on a budget. I'll ball on a budget. If you had a pen house for 80. I will take the pencil house for the 35. That's why I didn't take the mansion. It sounds like an over rated but well known spot for Americans. And I have learned from Cuba that the chicas that work around the will known spots are more mechanical. They are use to seeing Americans come and go. And they expect to be paid higher then the average. I think it will be more like Rumba chicas in the mansion. DCFan is offering to me what you offered. Getting a way from the touristy adventures and more into the daily life of the country. I know it can be risky however I don't mind adventuring to less chartered but seeded area. If I go to the mansion most of the chica are been there done that to the board. Imaging someone having to post a picture of a new chica because the others are ran through old news. By the time you get to the new girl she has been done 10 times over. I like the trill of the hunt. I heard the coke is the best in the world but that's not my thing. I don't mind a chica getting her straight line on. I hope the weed is good as well! I don't drink since my liver problems. But I will put one in the air.[/QUOTE]Grownman,

The action in El Centro has your name written all over it, just stay away from the glue sniffers which I know you will do. No problem getting serviced for $ 10 US and there are some diamonds in the rough to be had around the Church / Botero Plaza area. Last time I was there I got a BBJCIM for 15,000 Pesos so being the budget fucker that you are you should be right at home. Also don't rule out the casa's. Some of these girls would be more than happy to meet up with you outside of their working hours if you hit it off with them. Can't wait to see your trip reports!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1714240]Please read this as constructive criticism, my friend:

I know you told me that you were not considering staying at the mansion, but I don't see why you didn't take it into the equation considering you are saying you will be hitting a lot of casas. You are going for mechanical sex CBJ fuck houses (Casas) when you could have stayed in a place with a 90% or greater chance of GFE (and definitely BBBJ). I would have even advised that you hit up Colombian Jake and stayed at his place / have him show you around your first two nights if you didn't want to go the Mansion route. Both the Mansion and Jake would bring the girls to you and would not introduce you to chicas who are known to be poor performers (if these establishments care enough about their reputations).

Just reading your agenda it seems that you are going to be trying to do too much for a first time visitor. There is no way I would have been trying to do as much as you have on my first trip without having someone show me the ropes previously, especially at 2 or 3 am in El Centro. Having DCFan helping you will be a plus, but I imagine that he will not be wanting to hold your hand your entire trip.
.[/QUOTE]The problem with a man bringing me a chica is like him telling me specifically how dress. Unless a man knows me and my style; he can't just introduce to chicas just because they fuck well. I don't operate like that. Its never worked in the DR or in Cuba. I am more of a chemistry type of guy. A pretty face is water off my back. I am more into slim- waist ok face- and a beautiful all natural sexy muscular famine body. (phat ass. Not big- but phat for her body) And I like to find and polish my own diamonds.

Bro SP the last thing I need is to have my hand held the entire trip LOL. I am like Mr. E who said something like. Just let tell me the going rate is, introduce and quick class on the scene, now LE Mi Domy Dang. Mr. G can contest to that. We glad a few holla at you later times. Mr. G can get over protective, but I know its because he doesn't want to see me fked up. You think I am doing to much. I thought I wasn't. I was going to check in the hotel that I made reservations with. DCfan that they will be in that area. The apartments are a few blocks away in both direction. I figure on down time I will check out the spot and the first one that is a winner and vacancies. I will go online get the room and ride out the rest of time there with freedom like you suggested. If not stay at the hotel. Either way I am area where DCFAN is staying not far away. I feel like a can move faster than the average monger because I have this forum and ISG members aboard to fast forward me. Exon123 has also offered guidance. But if you think it too much please tell me with my plans what should change.

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1714342]Ahhh Melissa from the Mayorista. Or Geraldine / random ho name. Fantastic provider, Highly recommend.[/QUOTE]Soo far from my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714443]Shit Mr. G you know my money isn't as long as yours. I'm always on a budget. I'll ball on a budget. If you had a pen house for 80. I will take the pencil house for the 35. That's why I didn't take the mansion. It sounds like an over rated but well known spot for Americans. And I have learned from Cuba that the chicas that work around the will known spots are more mechanical. They are use to seeing Americans come and go. And they expect to be paid higher then the average. I think it will be more like Rumba chicas in the mansion. DCFan is offering to me what you offered. Getting a way from the touristy adventures and more into the daily life of the country. I know it can be risky however I don't mind adventuring to less chartered but seeded area. If I go to the mansion most of the chica are been there done that to the board. Imaging someone having to post a picture of a new chica because the others are ran through old news. By the time you get to the new girl she has been done 10 times over. I like the trill of the hunt. I heard the coke is the best in the world but that's not my thing. I don't mind a chica getting her straight line on. I hope the weed is good as well! I don't drink since my liver problems. But I will put one in the air.[/QUOTE]MDE is a great place for a budget monger. I have read your reports from the DR, and Cuba. You will like the different colors very much.

Enjoy.

Thanks for the good vibe guys.

GrownMan will be fine. Why? Because he is a grown-ass man! LOL.

I have never been to the mansion so I can't talk bad about it. But from what I read on this forum its for mainly guys that are older and like to be feed chicas or there are a little weary about going to downtown medellin. As for Colombian Jake, the chicas he has posted on his website look just ok, but is it worth BBBJ and paying extra for that kinda of point and click service. I will show anybody the ropes if they are cool and grownman seems to be a cool dude that isn't going to get scared over a few crack heads. Don't get it twisted, Downtown medellin at night is very dangerous. You have to know your surroundings at all times. But there are some amazing gems to be found. Since Grownman is arriving late, I might have to take him to this after-hours spot I know (open til 7 am or 8 am), because the strip clubs close at 2 a I think. Someone stated that a lot of the chicas at night are coke heads, this is true but not all. Some like to just drink and smoke weed. My experience is never try to out drink a colombiana, they will drink you under the table, especially if she does coke. I once smoked a blunt with a strip club chica. She fell asleep before we fuck that night. Woke up the next morning did some wakey bakey and then proceeded to fuck my brains out. Almost without a condom.

The day time casa scene is so abundant that you find what you are looking for. Getting GFE is a bit more challenging thou. Think about it, you pick a a girl from a line up and of you go to the room and bang. Where's the romance in that? LOL. In my experience I found that most casa chicas are more semi pro in style than strip club chica. Thats why they work during the day 9-5 type hours, because they have normal lifes. (not crack heads types) that being said my strategy for raising my chances of GFE in casas are as followed. Pick the chicas in the line up that smiles or gives you some kinda hint she digs you. If the chemistry is there then give a decent tip or a gift for the good service. For example (victoria secret undies) I buy them at the outlet malls for cheap. They will love this and maybe exchange info or have better GFE the next time around. Its worked very well for me.

I'm also thinking of going to Cali and Barranquilla while I'm down in Colombia. So any help would be nice from the experts.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714443]Shit Mr. G you know my money isn't as long as yours. I'm always on a budget. I'll ball on a budget. If you had a pen house for 80. I will take the pencil house for the 35. That's why I didn't take the mansion. It sounds like an over rated but well known spot for Americans. And I have learned from Cuba that the chicas that work around the will known spots are more mechanical. They are use to seeing Americans come and go. And they expect to be paid higher then the average. I think it will be more like Rumba chicas in the mansion. DCFan is offering to me what you offered. Getting a way from the touristy adventures and more into the daily life of the country. I know it can be risky however I don't mind adventuring to less chartered but seeded area. If I go to the mansion most of the chica are been there done that to the board. Imaging someone having to post a picture of a new chica because the others are ran through old news. By the time you get to the new girl she has been done 10 times over. I like the trill of the hunt. I heard the coke is the best in the world but that's not my thing. I don't mind a chica getting her straight line on. I hope the weed is good as well! I don't drink since my liver problems. But I will put one in the air.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1714265] am fortunate that I can pass for a Colombian.[/QUOTE]This is why I don't think I will like Colombia. To me Surfer looks strai8 up Anglo-Saxon. I he passes for Colombian. Though he is a handsome Gent especially when he wears those pinch me I am Irish bright red speedos (or as he call it protective surf wear). If the chicas are a female version of him I am going to be sexual deprived. Maybe.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714480]The problem with a man bringing me a chica is like him telling me specifically how dress. Unless a man knows me and my style; he can't just introduce to chicas just because they fuck well. I don't operate like that. Its never worked in the DR or in Cuba. I am more of a chemistry type of guy. A pretty face is water off my back. I am more into slim- waist ok face- and a beautiful all natural sexy muscular famine body. (phat ass. Not big- but phat for her body) And I like to find and polish my own diamonds.
[/QUOTE]I meant in a sense that if you told him what you are looking for, he probably has pool of contacts he could turn you on to. Not like the touts in the DR who just show up randomly outside your hotel with some random chica on the back of their moto yelling "hey my friend, I've got the perfect girl for you" (with their motivation being that they are going to take a cut from what you give the chica).

The profile Dcfan77 gave of the average Mansion visitor is a bit inaccurate though. I was in my late 20's when I first visited the mansion. The guys that visit there frequently do skew a bit older, but they probably are the most knowledgeable about the downtown casa scene and mayorista than most. It was here where shared a taxi with two other guys to visit casas over a span of 3 days. I also met two other guys and we visited San Diego Grille, Luna Lunera, La Isla (which had just opened), and La Manzana, which is about as seedy as it can get when it comes to downtown after hours spots. We were in there straight chillin like locals and didn't run into, any problems (well, all three of us were brown).

The downtown scene turns me off because it is filthy as fuck. I'll never forget walking past human shit on the sidewalk and seeing people sleeping under cardboard in broad daylight, LOL. I was like "this is slumming. Not my idea of a vacation. ".

It's true that you can find some gems in the casas, but what makes me laugh is guys that try to set something up with these chicas outside of the casa. Like the last thing she wants to see after sucking and fucking a line of hombres for $15 a pop is another dick after she gets off work.

The main takeaways I took from the mansion was being introduced to the scene quickly and safely, staying in an area where I don't have to look over my shoulder every second, and gather some contacts from good performers to add to my Facebook contacts. That was the seed that grew into something well worth the initial investment. I am so deep into the fb scene that I haven't set foot in a casa or strip club since my first trip there. Out of the 14+ number of chicas I banged my last trip, only about 4 of them were mansion chicas that I continue to repeat with because they are stellar performers. The rest I've cultivated on my own, and it continues to work with chicas that Facebook says we have no friends or connections in common.

Not saying you won't be able to do any of this on your own downtown. Just saying don't sleep on the path I prescribed.

Het Surf you been getting board wax as you called it latey.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714517]Het Surf you been getting board wax as you called it latey.[/QUOTE]Man,

That's a great shot of me, thanks for posting it.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714487]This is why I don't think I will like Colombia. To me Surfer looks strai8 up Anglo-Saxon. I he passes for Colombian. Though he is a handsome Gent especially when he wears those pinch me I am Irish bright red speedos (or as he call it protective surf wear). If the chicas are a female version of him I am going to be sexual deprived. Maybe.[/QUOTE]Your going to have to step out of your comfort zone in Medellin. You won't find any dark skinned, phat ass, extension wearing Chicas there. It's time you started banging some light skinned Chicas. Also, don't be wearing any of your earrings, gold chains, etc. Or shorts unless your in your Hotel room.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1714483] Since Grownman is arriving late, I might have to take him to this after-hours spot I know (open til 7 am or 8 am), because the strip clubs close at 2 a I think. Someone stated that a lot of the chicas at night are coke heads, this is true but not all. Some like to just drink and smoke weed. they will drink you under the table, especially if she does coke. I once smoked a blunt with a strip club chica.


The day time casa scene is so abundant that you find what you are looking for. Getting GFE is a bit more challenging thou. Think about it, you pick a a girl from a line up and of you go to the room and bang. Where's the romance in that? LOL. In my experience I found that most casa chicas are more semi pro in style than strip club chica. Thats why they work during the day 9-5 type hours, because they have normal lifes. (not crack heads types) that being said my strategy for raising my chances of GFE in casas are as followed. Pick the chicas in the line up that smiles or gives you some kinda hint she digs you. If the chemistry is there then give a decent tip or a gift for the good service. For example (victoria secret undies) I buy them at the outlet malls for cheap. They will love this and maybe exchange info or have better GFE the next time around. Its worked very well for me.

I'm also thinking of going to Cali and Barranquilla while I'm down in Colombia. So any help would be nice from the experts.[/QUOTE]Mr. G and calm down (my protective Brother) LOL he aint going to get me in trouble. I promise cross my heart. He he he he. Bro Pro pimping I promise I want go to jail until you are least 2 day from arriving. Then after you bail me out. You and CJ can give me the I told you so all the way to the Mansion. Or I am ahead strai8 for Melissa from the Mayorista for a BBBJ. I am high its a joke. Bro SP I know you have my safety in mind. You are right I can give him my favor and see if he come through but that time consuming. I hate the chica giving me the what's wrong with me looks.

I am excepting to just sport fuck in the casas. Like DCF said with so many casas I can find what even I am looking for. I am saving the GFE for Cuba and even there its hard to rideout with one chica.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714487]This is why I don't think I will like Colombia. To me Surfer looks strai8 up Anglo-Saxon. I he passes for Colombian. Though he is a handsome Gent especially when he wears those pinch me I am Irish bright red speedos (or as he call it protective surf wear). If the chicas are a female version of him I am going to be sexual deprived. Maybe.[/QUOTE]You got it twisted. I have met both you and Surfer and both of y'all can pass for Colombianos. (If you stay away from US club clothes and stick with Colombian club clothes (jeans & t-shirt)).

[URL]https://www.google.com/search?q=afrocolombianos&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&fir=ql_ru6zrRhSqGM%253A%252C645d4SUF_1FtOM%252C_%253BlvhMbjR2Vbe6VM%253A%252CZbdFiWux1DeeuM%252C_%253B30qG5mxpfnVKsM%253A%252CmhwxqBL562dTKM%252C_&usg=__eUNe3rRHw4tUAig-dzRJN90KNVg%3D&sa=X&ei=QMdCVaLWOcWvggTBxICQCQ&ved=0CCUQ7Ak[/URL]

I know you will not have any problem in Medellin. Hell, if I could go to the deep local mongering spots in Vietnam without being able to even say hello in Vietnamese, I know you can make it in Medellin with the Spanish that you have. I feel you on that mansion business. I don't even have a desire to see the place. I don't think you are trying to do too much. It don't take all day to sightsee or get pussy.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1714551]Your going to have to step out of your comfort zone in Medellin. You won't find any dark skinned, phat ass, extension wearing Chicas there. It's time you started banging some light skinned Chicas. Also, don't be wearing any of your earrings, gold chains, etc. Or shorts unless your in your Hotel room.[/QUOTE]Good post I wish someone would have told me that before my virgin MDE trip. My mom was old school and told me never to date light / white girls. Being a mommas boy I followed this script most of my life till I went to MDE. The beauty and sweetness made me forget what momma said. Now I don't have those prejudices thanks to MDE.

Well, there are plenty of "fat" asses in MDE, due to the prevalence of butt injections, but of course it is not really the same thing.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714517]Het Surf you been getting board wax as you called it latey.[/QUOTE]The picture looks photoshoped. The belly is 6 inches trimmer and did you use black crayons on the head?

[QUOTE=Jonesie;1714342]Ahhh Melissa from the Mayorista. Or Geraldine / random ho name. Fantastic provider, Highly recommend.[/QUOTE]Yeah Jonesie! Didn't take you long to find that Geraldine and nice photos! I'm happy to get her over here when your in town or tomorrow for the fight!

Jake

If a chica has breast implants does that certainly mean that she is a puta or has been before?

I mean, if a woman from a western country has implants, it is not automatic that she works in the sex industry because she possibly bought them for herself or her boyfriend / husband etc. Although it is, of course, an indicative sign.

A woman from a poor area (E G. , a low stratus neighborhood in Medellin) who has a boob job my understanding is that it would be financed by involvement in sex work.

However, I have read / seen on YouTube that it is quite common for girls to get boob jobs and even butt implants in cities across Colombia and therefore it is possible that such a girl is not a puta?

Thoughts from Colombia veterans?

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1714665]The picture looks photoshoped. The belly is 6 inches trimmer and did you use black crayons on the head?[/QUOTE]I can attest that that is me, I'm in the best shape ever!

[QUOTE=Onibmab;1714835]If a chica has breast implants does that certainly mean that she is a puta or has been before?

A woman from a poor area (E G. , a low stratus neighborhood in Medellin) who has a boob job my understanding is that it would be financed by involvement in sex work.

However, I have read / seen on YouTube [b]that it is quite common for girls to get boob jobs and even butt implants [/b]in cities across Colombia and therefore it is possible that such a girl is not a puta?

Thoughts from Colombia veterans?[/QUOTE]I think you may have answered your own question there amigo, with he question being "how does a jobless woman from a poor area afford expensive body modifications like breast implants and butt injections?"

As far as how common it is, probably very common among full-time putas and chicas with sponsors (you know, the ones that seem to be on vacation 24/7, 365 and post photos of themselves in exotic locations, fancy hotels and resorts every other week).

Most of the semi-pro chicas I know can barely afford tuition, let alone breast implants.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1714585]You got it twisted. I have met both you and Surfer and both of y'all can pass for Colombianos. (If you stay away from US club clothes and stick with Colombian club clothes (jeans & t-shirt)).
y.[/QUOTE]I know what you mean - I can pass for Cuban when I was in Cuba. But I was immediately identified by my Nike and polo outfits. Even the guys who walked with me- someone assumed they were American because we were together. They got a kick out of that. Stating yes we are Americans in their best English accent. I think I will dress down in Medina but only during the day. And do my normal at night headed to the club. I just can't t-shirt and jeans. I don't mind standing out a little and representing da dirty dirty south Grownman style. if this is a big mistake Mr G please tell me

[QUOTE=Onibmab;1714835]If a chica has breast implants does that certainly mean that she is a puta or has been before?

I mean, if a woman from a western country has implants, it is not automatic that she works in the sex industry because she possibly bought them for herself or her boyfriend / husband etc. Although it is, of course, an indicative sign.

A woman from a poor area (E G. , a low stratus neighborhood in Medellin) who has a boob job my understanding is that it would be financed by involvement in sex work.

However, I have read / seen on YouTube that it is quite common for girls to get boob jobs and even butt implants in cities across Colombia and therefore it is possible that such a girl is not a puta?

Thoughts from Colombia veterans?[/QUOTE]It doesn't mean with any certainty that a Colombiana was a puta or prepago if she has had a boob job. The middle class in Colombia is growing and more and more women have their own money to buy them. Plus Colombian men fix their women up like American fix up their cars.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714954]I know what you mean - I can pass for Cuban when I was in Cuba. But I was immediately identified by my Nike and polo outfits. Even the guys who walked with me- someone assumed they were American because we were together. They got a kick out of that. Stating yes we are Americans in their best English accent. I think I will dress down in Medina but only during the day. And do my normal at night headed to the club. I just can't t-shirt and jeans. I don't mind standing out a little and representing da dirty dirty south Grownman style. if this is a big mistake Mr G please tell me[/QUOTE]Girls in Colombia like fashion but you should give DCfan (Incidentally my hometown, McKinley tech high) a heads up like you did me and ask what he thinks.

Hey fellows!

Other than La Manzana. Anyone knows the location of other amanecederos or clubes nocturnos? I had some good pulls from la Manzana before. I blend and speak spanish so no worries.

Info appreciated!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1714896]I think you may have answered your own question there amigo, with he question being "how does a jobless woman from a poor area afford expensive body modifications like breast implants and butt injections?"

As far as how common it is, probably very common among full-time putas and chicas with sponsors (you know, the ones that seem to be on vacation 24/7, 365 and post photos of themselves in exotic locations, fancy hotels and resorts every other week).

Most of the semi-pro chicas I know can barely afford tuition, let alone breast implants.[/QUOTE]I will add that some of the work they get is from least than reputable characters, non MDs and barely trained people in some cases. Some chicas in Mayo were telling me stories of friends that went to collagen injections parties and the nasty results. And some of them are scared away for sure. Works for me I hate silicon or implants of any kind even when very well done.

Usually the girls in the middle class families consult with mothers about aesthetic surgey, ie. Nose job and boob job, and the mother takes the daughter to the surgeon.

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;1715029]It doesn't mean with any certainty that a Colombiana was a puta or prepago if she has had a boob job. The middle class in Colombia is growing and more and more women have their own money to buy them. Plus Colombian men fix their women up like American fix up their cars.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1715237]Usually the girls in the middle class families consult with mothers about aesthetic surgey, ie. Nose job and boob job, and the mother takes the daughter to the surgeon..[/QUOTE]Did you use some statistical analysis Matty to come to this conclusion, or what are you basing it on, as nothing else would see relevant.

Guys, just to add a little perspective, boob jobs are quite common in Colombia. In fact, to put things in perspective: the price of a boob job is relatively lower in Colombia than in first-world countries, while a small basic car in Colombia would cost almost twice as much than what it would sell for over here in the states. That goes to show you what the priorities are, LOL!

Also, a girl can get a boob job by putting half the cost down at first and pay the rest over the next 2-3 months (during her follow-up appointments). So I'd say even an estrata 3 girl can get one, if she can save some money and get the rest from guy friends, girl friends, and even some family members might pitch in.

You'd also be surprised at the number of girls from middle-class families getting boob jobs for their 18th birthdays. Not that different than what you see in certain circles here in the states, like a JAP getting a nose job at 16 or 17 years; or rich girls in certain neighborhoods in LA or Miami getting boob jobs sometimes as young as 16.

So it's not just a puta thing. It's almost a requirement nowadays in certain niches of the Colombian model / fashion world. Big boobs in high-fashion or euro-fashion are still almost forbidden of course, but we're talking the second-tier beauty contest circuit (Miss Cola, Miss Tanga, etc.), the Chicas Car Audio circuit, the models on the Linda Pop site, the girls that get paid to hang out in the "cool" club of the moment. Another good example would be some of the Aguila girls that have a small boob job (200 CC implants, not the monstrous 350 CC models, LOL!

X-novia said that girls saves for 2-3 years, may include some occasional sex for money. She also said "amigos" or novios pay. She also said she can get some sort or butt-jobb for only 600 mil pesos, but that idea scares me. 600 mil, what can she get?

Other amiga got a bankloan. She said that all of her primas, amigas already have implants and all are from estrato social 1-3, where 6 is the most rich.

A girl at a nice location in Laureles had yet no breast implants; " I make 2 million a months, my amigas here with implants make 5 million".

It's a Catch 22. The girl needs the implants to finance them!

But I have met guys, both local and gringos, at New Life, asking if this or that girl was good, but also specifying that "if her tits are implants, I'll pass".

Personally I love breastimplants, while I think as an ass-man I prefer a hard aerobics ass. If a girl are born with fling-flung tits, she can't do anything about it except surgery. Asses though are about excercize-moral; You can always get a nice ass with effort!

The same for us with overwieght-problems; I CAN get rid if that "barriga de cerveza", but a small penis I can do little about!

Thanks for the various replies and perspectives.

Apparently there is a television series called "Sin tetas no hay paraiso" - about a girl who wants to get boob implants. So definitely an important (and interesting LOL) part of the Colombian culture.

According to this article [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2015/apr/23/teen-liposuction-busty-pinatas-narcoaesthetics-in-colombia-in-pictures[/URL] one girl from Medellin claims she paid 4. 5 m pesos. It could be cheaper than that though.

I suppose, if you were to break down the society as the Colombians do, in 1-6 estratos you could probably say that 5,6 could definitely afford it.

Anything below is already sketchy, but I guess, if the culture is really to the point where there is no shame but rather pressure (e. G. , like social pressure to get a smartphone) like some here are suggesting and where the family would get involved, then I could see 3-4 also being reasonable possibilities.

Obviously if she is estrato 1-2, I think that, at that point, it is obvious what she is about.

I only ask and look into this to hear perspectives because I think it helps in terms of economizing time / effort invested in a girl and also deciding what kind of long-term potential she has.

Guys,

Headed back to MDE for 10 days later this month and have interest in a testosterone shot. Never tried it before, but have read experiences of other guys. Does anyone know of a pharmacy in Poblado that administers the shot?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Phunluv;1715481]Guys, just to add a little perspective, boob jobs are quite common in Colombia. In fact, to put things in perspective: the price of a boob job is relatively lower in Colombia than in first-world countries, while a small basic car in Colombia would cost almost twice as much than what it would sell for over here in the states. That goes to show you what the priorities are, LOL!
[/QUOTE]A small basic car is so expensive in Colombia because it must be imported. Colombia, like many countries in the region has a very inefficient personal income tax system, so it relies on Value Added Tax (VAT) sales tax systems and placing high tariffs on imported goods, especially luxury goods like autos, TVs, cell phones. This kind of taxation targets the rich, and hopefully encourages domestic manufacture of manufactured good. Eventually, the economy will rise to the level where someone will to open a automobile plant in the country, and the product will be competitively priced because of lower shipping and tax costs. Argentina got a Ford Falcon plant and Mexico got a VW bug plant in the 1960's.

Low cost plastic surgery in Colombia is low cost because a surgeon can make a good living, and while it is not what his counterpart in a big city in the US would make, he has lower costs, is not in fear of a law suit every month, and has volume / word of mouth advertising working for him.

As for the butt-jobs. I have seen bad ones where something was injected, which later turned into a discoloration. I've known one non-pro slim girl who had a butt that was just fine and firm and tight and would have benefitted from a boob job get a but got a butt job instead, which only accentuated her flat chest. Another was a full time pro who looked like a petit blonde Anne Hathaway, and then, when I saw here a year later, had gotten a boob job, butt job, dyed her hair black, and went from 95 lbs to 115 lbs. She had transformed form Nicole Ritchie to one of the Khardasian. It was as if someone put a battle ship's big 18 inch gun turrets on the front and back of a little cruiser. It is too much for her 4'11" frame.

[QUOTE=Phunluv;1715481]
Also, a girl can get a boob job by putting half the cost down at first and pay the rest over the next 2-3 months (during her follow-up appointments). So I'd say even an estrata 3 girl can get one, if she can save some money and [b]get the rest from guy friends[/b], girl friends, and even some family members might pitch in.
[/QUOTE]Any smart guy wouldn't just give a broad money to pay for her tits if there was nothing in it for him. So, again we've confirmed that a poor girl with no money for tits will sell ass to acquire them (or finish paying for them).

I suppose the underlining theme of the initial question was that the OP was trying to rationalize starting a long distance relationship with a chick whom he suspects may have history as a pro because she has fake boobs. Other posters want to convince the OP otherwise, and that "middle class chicas do it all the time (get boob jobs)".

Well, I regularly bang a MILF that would be regarded as "middle class". She owns her own hair salon. Doesn't stop her from hooking on the side by taking my pesos.

And she has fake boobs.

Stop believing you are going to find a "Unicorn" chica; they don't exist. Hooking is part of the culture and all women will not pass on the opportunity to sell ass for cash discreetly if the right opportunity presents itself, regardless of the "estrato".

Some poster a while back talked about knowing an agency that would hook you up with TV personalities that hooked on the side (back in the day). I'm sure these women would be considered to be in the upper echelon of society.

[QUOTE=Onibmab;1715753]Thanks for the various replies and perspectives.

Apparently there is a television series called "Sin tetas no hay paraiso" - about a girl who wants to get boob implants. So definitely an important (and interesting LOL) part of the Colombian culture.

According to this article [URL]http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2015/apr/23/teen-liposuction-busty-pinatas-narcoaesthetics-in-colombia-in-pictures[/URL] one girl from Medellin claims she paid 4. 5 m pesos. It could be cheaper than that though.

I suppose, if you were to break down the society as the Colombians do, in 1-6 estratos you could probably say that 5,6 could definitely afford it.

Anything below is already sketchy, but I guess, if the culture is really to the point where there is no shame but rather pressure (e. G. , like social pressure to get a smartphone) like some here are suggesting and where the family would get involved, then I could see 3-4 also being reasonable possibilities.

Obviously if she is estrato 1-2, I think that, at that point, it is obvious what she is about.

I only ask and look into this to hear perspectives because I think it helps in terms of economizing time / effort invested in a girl and also deciding what kind of long-term potential she has.[/QUOTE]Colombia has a very long and deep tradition of "prepagoism". It is as you say obvious where the money comes from.

The modern Colombia still have feudal patterns; extremely unjust in-equality. Erotics, sensualism, sex is something that is much more acccpeted, it's much more "natural" than in our 1st world societies. Hence, the stigma is not that strong. Everybody knows but officially don't know where the money comes from; egoism is so strong that families know what the flower of the family does in Panama; but it's accepted since she actucally pays the bills. But, looking at it from another angle; they already plan for that when she is young, that she will be a family provider; as a prepago in another city, Bogota, or another country, Panama. So strong is the culture that holds back the female liberation. It's more terrible than we can imagine!

The family of course never mention it to the young girl, they know (and want it); when she moves alone to another, bigger city, where she can live "incognito", they know that her waitress salary is so bad and that men will offer her good money as prepago! It`s not that just happens by accident!

That is the mentality of "los pobres". There does not exist thoughts of a marxist revolution; plain egoism combined with a vastly spread laziness is still King!

Marrying a "rich" man from The US or Europe is Bingo! And that means economic security for life for the whole Low-Estrato -family! Without any effort at all!

New breasts, ass, abdomen and facial feautures are the essential parts of the "product" the Lower-Estrato families "sell".

Of course it is important! Being the best looking girl in the barrio means a future. However, intellectual shortcomings are so inherent; treating that extranjero like a "Living Wallet", makes him wanna quit the whole thing! He feels he is the "Bingo". They often end up with a sudden separation and they are back to square 1. Just some basic recognition and backround research would prevent that. But the impulsivness are so strong and it never comes to that. And that patterns also is seen among university educated people in Laureles!

For us bad guys, we can then explore this culture; there are now an influx of 1000th of sweetshearts every year turning 18 in Medellin only! And with silicone breats and huge asses and flat abdomen!

I, and many like me, just love those girls! It`s such a turn on with those artifical body parts! it should not be, but it is! And all for $US50-75!

I once went to a girl from those web-escort sites; she had such big fake ass that I could not reach here her pussy or anal with my toungue! Her "nalgas" where so big that I couldn`t give her oral pleasure from behind! That is plastic surgery at it`s most!

Such girls on the streets is accepted here in Medellin; but what would people say if you took home such a girl to the States! LoL! She would be considered a freak!

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1716031]Everybody knows but officially don't know where the money comes from; egoism is so strong that families know that the flower of the family does in Panama; but it's accepted since she actucally pays the bills. But, looking at it from another angle; they already plan for that when she is young, that she will be a family provider; as a prepago in another city, Bogota, or another country, Panama. So strong is the culture that holds back the female liberation. It's more terrible than we can imagine!

The family of course never mention it to the young girl, they know (and want it); when she moves alone to another, bigger city, where she can live "incognito", they know she waitress salary is so bad and that men will offer her good money as prepago! It`s not that just happens by accident!
[/QUOTE]Say what you want about C Jack Sparrow, but this guy gets it!

There is a very, very fine chica from Medellin that I wanted to bang on my next trip, but she is currently living in Peru working as a "waitress" (cough), and won't be back until summer.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1716045]Say what you want about C Jack Sparrow, but this guy gets it!

There is a very, very fine chica from Medellin that I wanted to bang on my next trip, but she is currently living in Peru working as a "waitress" (cough), and won't be back until summer.[/QUOTE]That could very well be the case if she was in a first world country. In a restaurant in Australia I did meet a girl from Colombia who was a real live waitress and was not there as a hooker as you guys are portraying every Colombiana who travels for work to be. One of my main Colombians is from Medellin and has worked in a factory in Panama for years. My ex girlfriend is Colombian but has lived outside of Colombia for at least the 10 years that I have been knowing her. When we met she was living in the hood in Caracas (I did stay there with them) with her son, who is now an engineering student at a university in Buenos Aires . Then she moved to Curacao. She now lives in Panama. She is a hairstylist. She does have implants that her boyfriend before I met her bought. So I know first hand that they are not all hookers and many do have legitimate jobs.

The Colombians who I have met in Peru who ARE hookers all have tit and ass implants. Does your girl fit this description? If not, then I am 90% sure that she is not working as a hooker in Peru. I would seriously doubt that she is there as a waitress though. Peru is not a big tipping culture and she would probably make out better as a waitress in Colombia. For the most part, the people that do the waitressing in Peru are teenagers.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1716215]So I know first hand that they are not all hookers and many do have legitimate jobs.
[/QUOTE]Doesn't mean she doesn't hook on the side. I gave the example of the MILF hairstylist. She has a "legitimate job" (hell, she is a business owner), but still is available for P4P.

In fact, how many women do I NOT know that have regular jobs but make themselves available to you after work for a chance to supplement their incomes?

You lose cool points for that "I know first hand" comment. You only know what she tells you or allows you to know.

I've been watching a chica I've blown my load in on multiple occasions parade pics of her new boyfriend across her Facebook timeline over the past few days (no fake tits on this one; natural round melons). I'm sure her new novio thinks he knows first hand that she's never sold ass for cash either.

Oh, and this particular one I speak of happens to be an enfermera.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1716226]Doesn't mean she doesn't hook on the side. In fact, how many women do I NOT know that have regular jobs but make themselves available to you after work for a chance to supplement their incomes?

You lose cool points for that "I know first hand" comment. You only know what she tells you or allows you to know.[/QUOTE]By that logic it doesn't mean that none of us don't turn tricks on the side either. There is no way to prove a negative. But maybe I assume they are not hookers because in the umpteen years that I have known them they have never asked me for anything and I have never given them anything. They are not running around in luxury and sporting the latest gadgets. They live modestly and even below modestly. But hell anything is possible. I just don't go around assuming by default that someone is selling ass; especially if I have known that someone for quite a few years. And besides, as tight as those monkeys are when I get back to them, if they were selling it to somebody then that somebody definitely had not been hitting hit right.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1716251]By that logic it doesn't mean that none of us don't turn tricks on the side either. There is no way to prove a negative. But maybe I assume they are not hookers because in the umpteen years that I have known them they have never asked me for anything and I have never given them anything. They are not running around in luxury and sporting the latest gadgets. They live modestly and even below modestly. But hell anything is possible. I just don't go around assuming by default that someone is selling ass; especially if I have known that someone for quite a few years.[/QUOTE]Well, at least I was referring to semi pros, or "known sluts". Don't even get me started on the quote, unquote "non-pros":

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[B]I Married A $lut That Fucks Like A Prude part II[/B]

We've heard the same story repeatedly: the woman who was sexually ferocious in her youth but is extremely conservative in her marriage. The woman who was into gangbangs and orgies in her "experimental" days but now refuses to give her husband a blow job.

/u/Rollo-Tomassi's original post on the subject is the gold standard in terms of analysis:

[URL]http://therationalmale.com/2013/12/03/saving-the-best/[/URL]

And yet, however many times you've heard the story, it still bears repeating, because of the millions of husbands who suffer through this situation for their entire married lives.

The latest episode is from the /r/deadbedrooms subreddit titled "Thinking we are done, four weeks to our wedding".

It starts out with a man in a once-every-two-months dead bedroom. One day he goes to an alcohol-fueled industry trade show related to his fiance's work. He wanders off on his own and strikes up a conversation with a random guy:

[I]Anyway, we got onto exes. I admit, I don't have many. Well I have one, but that was a long time ago. So he was doing most of the talking. Alcohol, loose lips, etc. Anyway, my fiance is off in the distance and I was about to mention her. But just then he mentioned her instead even pointing her out sort of slyly.

He said she was one of his exes, but more like a friends with very good benefits. I don't know why, I just decided to let him talk. He referred to her as "the dirtiest woman ever" and how when she first met him, within ten minutes she was leading him around the club they were in trying to find a second guy to have a threesome with. Then another time she had him round for a booty call and she was apparently very into toys. Apparently she had done most of his friends too and they would often talk about her. But he was laughing all the way through this, just sort of guy talk. Not in a mocking way, he was just letting the alcohol run his mouth.

This didn't click with me at all. My fiance? Threesome? Toys? No way. She barely moves during sex and most certainly does not give me blow jobs or even hand jobs nowadays. She told me she finds blow jobs degrading and one time I suggested buying her a sex toy she told me only sad women use those. Who is this guy talking about that can "suck dick like a champ" and all this sort of thing. Yes, I remember the words he used.[/I]

How did he know that this guy was telling the truth?

[I]But he said something that made some uncomfortable listening. I just plain didn't believe him. But what he said was that he knew of a specific tattoo that really unless you had seen her naked, you wouldn't know about. I've had a scaffolding pole fall and break my rib once... this conversation hurt more.[/I]

Eventually, the trickle-truth comes out, and her response is so typical that it could be computer-generated.

[I]It took a couple of very tense days for her to finally tell me everything and I doubt I heard everything. But she was "wild" in her college days, she was "trying things out, getting to know herself" and that it's past her and she isn't some sort of $lut and it was bad of me to ask about this. My fiance admitted to sleeping with around 20 guys during her "wild" years and let slip one or two things I didn't know about. I never really asked her for her "number" but given what I know, I think 20 may be an under estimate. I think when she admitted to an entirely different foursome with this guy I realized that the threesome I'd heard about wasn't an isolated incident.[/I]

The poor guy stays with her to see if things will eventually get kinkier, but they don't:

[I]I even brought up the subject of sexy fantasies once. I tried being low key, saying that I found stockings hot, that I liked her in red lingerie. In truth I have never seen her in stockings or lingerie of any kind. Anything I said just seemed to be met with "I'm not a hoar, stop treating me like one."[/I]

If this is a fake story, it is a good fake because it fits the AFBB (Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks) reality so well:

Couple has a dead bedroom and yet the man stays out of obligation / commitment.

Man finds out about her secret wild past.

Woman denies it, then the truth eventually trickles out.

Says she was experimenting when she was young but that is in her past and she's not a $lut now.

Shames the man for shaming her about her past.

Woman still isn't motivated to have sex because you can't negotiate desire.

Edit: a helpful Redditor said that OP posted the following update:

[i]Thank you for all the comments. Just to say, sorry this ended up on the red pill. I never really looked at it until a whole bunch of you messaged me with it but I really do not identify with what is written there. So thank you for pointing me there but I don't need it.

I told her last night about 20 minutes after writing all this that I don't think I can go through with the wedding. We had a big talk and although initially she just resorted to her making me feel guilty for needing to be sexual with her, she told me a lot of things that really made no difference.

I suggested again that maybe she was guilty about her sexual past and if she wanted to reign in the kink then that isn't a problem. But eliminating sex entirely is just a complete deal break and not one I am willing to put up with any longer. She denied this vehemently. Though she got insulting I think it was just her defense mechanism.

We slept on it, I went to my parents. She sent me a mail saying that I can either call off the wedding or come back and we would fuck. I came back after a lot of hesitation. I think I was psyching myself up.

In the end, we ended up just talking again and mutually agreed that we are just not right for each other. She pretty much said that she never wanted me to think of her as a slag which I never have done. She also regretted being so experimental but ultimately she also wants to do more experimenting. Because she got into her head that I am a stable nice guy, she doesn't want to do anything kinky with me because it would make me think less of her. I don't know how she rationalised it, she basically said that because I am keeping the household together and paying the bills, she didn't feel like she was able to get kinky with me. This pretty much made me angry but I didn't let on.

I guess all that's left now is separating. Thank you all for your comments, even the ones who tried to say I was being false. I can assure you I am not being false and this is pretty much uncharted territory for me.[/i]

Full: [URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/321ies/i_married_a_****_that_fucks_like_a_prude_part_ii/[/URL].

SavePros:

Love this quote. This could be applied to those "Unicorn" non-pro girlfriends as well:

[b]1johnnight 1 point 24 days ago[/b]

Look, there are some men would be glad to marry a former $lut, who stays a nympho for them. Not gonna judge.

The problem is false advertising. It's a con. You are promised to get one thing, but you pay outrageous money to get a shitty or empty product. There is literally no other commercial good to spend as much money on as a wife. Nothing else.

And men are making the stupidest decisions about the number one cost item. The whole culture is set up to make men make stupid decisions. It's like 'they' know, but they keep up the necessary lies for society to go on (not even function, just go on).

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1714954]I know what you mean - I can pass for Cuban when I was in Cuba. But I was immediately identified by my Nike and polo outfits. Even the guys who walked with me- someone assumed they were American because we were together. They got a kick out of that. Stating yes we are Americans in their best English accent. I think I will dress down in Medina but only during the day. And do my normal at night headed to the club. I just can't t-shirt and jeans. I don't mind standing out a little and representing da dirty dirty south Grownman style. if this is a big mistake Mr G please tell me[/QUOTE]Nike / Polo outfits, gold chains, earrings, shorts and sandals. That will get you mugged in El Centro in a heartbeat. I think your going to like the street scene better than the clubs and you need to dress like a local which is T-shirts and jeans. A friend of mine just returned from Medellin last week and told me the going rate for the street girls near and around Avenida De La Grief was approximately $ 8 with a condom. Bareback sessions I was told could be had for only $ 4 more with some of the girls in the streets. I know a lot of members here won't get near the street girls many of whom are druggies but there are some diamonds in the rough to be had there. I met some really nice gems there on my last trip. I personally don't like the clubs, and they aren't really anything like in the DR. Your going to have a great time after you sort things out within a few days and I look forward to seeing your reports. I will be on the ground there starting the 28th and plan to explore some new territory besides the El Centro and Mayorista areas. Also don't rule out some daytime sessions at the casa's.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1715998]Any smart guy wouldn't just give a broad money to pay for her tits if there was nothing in it for him. So, again we've confirmed that a poor girl with no money for tits will sell ass to acquire them (or finish paying for them).

I suppose the underlining theme of the initial question was that the OP was trying to rationalize starting a long distance relationship with a chick whom he suspects may have history as a pro because she has fake boobs. Other posters want to convince the OP otherwise, and that "middle class chicas do it all the time (get boob jobs)".[/QUOTE]Actually, agree with everything you say, just want to clarify, by guy friends, I meant men she may have dated / slept with in the past or current friends with benefits. I suppose that's a kind of prepaga so I guess yeah I've undermined my point, LOL.

I still don't think the millions of Colombians in the country with boob jobs have all put out for money, or will in the near future. Maybe just 99%, LOL. I suspect many do it to attract a better quality (richer) boyfriend which is classic Colombian logic! Also, the women are naturally very competitive with each other when it comes to looks and fashion.

I guess if the OP sends her money, he is going to go crazy over this and end up feeling burned; I personally don't worry about those kinds of things any more. We play the girls. They play us in turn. Everyone has their secrets. I recently discovered 45-year-old documents about a family member that surprised me.

My advice to the OP would be don't give more than what is disposable money to you.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1715998]Any smart guy wouldn't just give a broad money to pay for her tits if there was nothing in it for him. So, again we've confirmed that a poor girl with no money for tits will sell ass to acquire them (or finish paying for them).

I suppose the underlining theme of the initial question was that the OP was trying to rationalize starting a long distance relationship with a chick whom he suspects may have history as a pro because she has fake boobs. Other posters want to convince the OP otherwise, and that "middle class chicas do it all the time (get boob jobs)".[/QUOTE]Well, it is more about not wanting to jump to conclusions. Not every female in the entire country is poor. Maybe she lives with her family in a middle class area.

For example: is every chica who has a Samsung Galaxy S4 or an iPhone in Medellin automatically a hooker? LOL, I think it raises the probability, yes. But it is also possible that she is a middle class girl and therefore she owns some worldly possessions.

So it is akin to me asking: how common is it for middle class chicas to buy iPhones?

So if it is true that middle class chicas in Medellin get boob jobs without being putas, then it is quite possible, if she is from the "middle class", that she never was a puta.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1716251]I just don't go around assuming by default that someone is selling ass[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with this. I don't like to make assumptions that people are hookers off the bat.

Some it is very easy to tell. Others it is more ambiguous.

So it is a matter of learning and hearing about the culture of Colombia.

If someone asked me about a chick in the US who had a boob job. I'd say that it is definitely a statement about her personality or character but it doesn't mean she is a hooker. Would I assume a chick I met in NY was a hooker because she has fake boobs? A chica in Poblado might not be different. Therefore it is useful to get the opinion of members on the board so that I get some perspective from other people before I show up in the country. Like the Guardian news article I linked here.

Took advantage of some low airfares for a short trip to Medellin so here is my condensed report. For exchange rate ended up getting 2340 at Uni Central Mall. Friday evening took a stroll to Centro found cute little spinner 21 yo across park on 52 30 k +12 k for room. The next day slept in then went to Energy 140 k with cerveza for girl not much of a line up girl was maybe a 6. 5 no BBBJ then went to watch fight next day Sunday checked out New Life average line up average service 40 k 30 minutes no BBBJ on the table. Later that evening took a stroll in Centro walked around for awhile nothing I liked on the streets then went in to Occidental Grill nice spinner offered Services for 30 k the way I understood it she was telling me 30 k for the house so I handed her a 10 and 20 k bill saw her handing the bartender one of the bills and she held on to one when we went to the room she got a condom out I asked for BBBJ she said 20 K more then she started asking for the money so I reluctantly handed her the 20 k. Ended up having a decent session when we were finished she didn't ask for any more money so when it was all said and done 50 k damage so maybe original cost was 30 k with room. Monday before heading out hit New Life again saw Melissa BBBJ 30 k I know over paid but when it was all said and done very economical trip spent less than $500 including airfare $253 room for 3 nights $79 and 5 girls $140 now that is as good a value as you will ever find.

Baller on a budget! I'm going to check Occidental Grill this time around. Thanks for the post.

[QUOTE=DrWasabee;1716747]Took advantage of some low airfares for a short trip to Medellin so here is my condensed report. For exchange rate ended up getting 2340 at Uni Central Mall. Friday evening took a stroll to Centro found cute little spinner 21 yo across park on 52 30 k +12 k for room. The next day slept in then went to Energy 140 k with cerveza for girl not much of a line up girl was maybe a 6. 5 no BBBJ then went to watch fight next day Sunday checked out New Life average line up average service 40 k 30 minutes no BBBJ on the table. Later that evening took a stroll in Centro walked around for awhile nothing I liked on the streets then went in to Occidental Grill nice spinner offered Services for 30 k the way I understood it she was telling me 30 k for the house so I handed her a 10 and 20 k bill saw her handing the bartender one of the bills and she held on to one when we went to the room she got a condom out I asked for BBBJ she said 20 K more then she started asking for the money so I reluctantly handed her the 20 k. Ended up having a decent session when we were finished she didn't ask for any more money so when it was all said and done 50 k damage so maybe original cost was 30 k with room. Monday before heading out hit New Life again saw Melissa BBBJ 30 k I know over paid but when it was all said and done very economical trip spent less than $500 including airfare $253 room for 3 nights $79 and 5 girls $140 now that is as good a value as you will ever find.[/QUOTE].