Angeles City

V,

No it's not safe to assume that all girls who work in jobs other than the bars are bar-girls. Some of them may have been in the past, and some of them will be in the future, but I have met quite a few girls who work in restaraunts, malls, and other stores who make less than $3.00 a day, but who still won't turn to the promise of fast cash by working in the bars. But you must understand that it doesn't matter where the girl works. After being in Angeles all their lives, or however long they have been there, they start to get a sense of how easy it is to make money on the side from foreigners. They do this without guilt, and in their minds it's not prostitution. It's all about economics. "We have" and "They want"! So they figure out all kinds of ways to make us give what we have, to them. Of course they give us some poon in return, but only to help us lighten our pockets. I still love the place though!

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Vvvvvvroom]This is somewhat relevant to the above message. I met this tall beautiful pinay that worked at an internet cafe on Fields Avenue (internet cafe is no longer there), her name was Rina Guzman.

She agreed to meet me in the lobby of Clarkton Hotel after she got off from work. Surprisingly, she came to meet me. After talking briefly in the lobby she suggested we go to my room. One thing led to another and before you know it we were having sex.

After that she wanted to go to the mall which we did. She took me by surprise when she asked me to buy her some clothing, being a sucker for her beauty I did.

She stayed with me at the hotel for the remainder of my stay in Angeles. All was nice until I returned to the states to find that she had given me chlamydia. I was fortunate that I didn't get anything else.

Had I known that pinoys don't eat pinays, then I would have known that her asking me to eat her was indication that she was getting it from tourist that "go down," or that I wasn't the first tourist she had been with.

I should know better, but here's my question, is it safe to assume that all woman that work on fields, at non-bar-associated jobs, bar-girls?

I haven't been in contact with her for awhile, anyone else know who I'm talking about?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Krum Lov]i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?[/QUOTE]


Never a bad idea to take any precautions as its always better than nothing. But, Remember that antibacterials only kills Bacteria and not Virus. Most of the stuff you buy will only say Anti-bacterials. Always remember that HIV and Herpes are Viruses so only using protection will be safest method.


PT

[QUOTE=Vvvvvvroom] ... Had I known that pinoys don't eat pinays ...[/QUOTE]

Interesting news to me! Is that verified? Can anybody confirm?

Cheers - Hesekiels

the newest deal getting the guys here in a world of shit is paying street kids for a pack of gum. Yes I am sure you and I have felt bad for the dirty little people selling a pack of gum. Well, this is a new trap just the same.

Get this a person is watching you pay the child selling the gum to you and snapps a photoof you putting the cash in the kids hand. The thing is the photo will not show the gum they are selling. You are touching a child and this issought out to be attempted whatever they want to say.

True, false, you be the judge, all I can say is no more money to street children asking for money. Who wants to be the next guy up in front of a judge telling your side with photos backing up the charge.

Staying on top,

B. B.

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Interesting news to me! Is that verified? Can anybody confirm?

Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]That would be pretty consistent with most Asian cultures/sexual practices.

They don't go down as a norm.

Last Saturday night, a friend and I were coming back to the US border in Tijuana when we were accosted by Mexican police. Ostensibly, they were looking for Viagra, which, is sold without prescription everywhere in TJ so I don't know whats illegal with that. Anyway, we were spreadeagled by two cops with nasty attitudes. I had about $500 in my right pocket and tried to keep my right hand on the pocket to prevent the cop from stealing my money. He roughly pulled my hand off, at which point, I turned around to face him. Very slowly, he put his hand in my pocket, pulled out the cash and handed it to me. He then continued with his search, which revealed nothing anyway. I've also had this happen in Bangkok, but as I don't use drugs I don't worry about it.

My feeling about these encounters with the police is that it is a battle of wills. If they wanted to rob you, then they would simply put a gun to your head and take your money. But I haven't heard of that happening. Maybe they're afraid of a scene and perhaps losing their jobs or some other unpleasantness, so usually, they use a pretext to get you to cough up something, like the 'indecent exposure' scam. They are on shaky ground and they know it.

Because I'm never carrying anything illegal, right from the start, I've got a stern, uncompromising attitude. Sure, I comply with their orders, but its obvious to them from the getgo that this isn't going to be an easy extortion. I've always been let go. Never once have they taken it to the next level and asked me for money. It doesn't matter what the language is, they understand by the body language that its going to be a problem. If they did ask for money, then I'd insist on a receipt, with their name on it......at the police station. With the American consul present.

Spam Hog is right that they have the upper hand, but not totally. If they did, they'd dispense with scams and force the money from you. But they fear the hue and cry that would inevitably ensue, so they aren't all powerful.

Of course, all this depends on you, the gringo, being innocent. If you're not, then I guess that you have to start smiling and negotiating :)

I have a good story to share.

I have always been a big advocate of condoms on these trips. I usually take a hundred or more with me and whatever I dont use, I hand out to the ladies in the end.

There was one trip where I had barfined this one woman more then a few times. We were like buddies. So, one thing led to the next and we started doing it without condoms. She was the only one who I did without a condom.

Then it was time to get back on the plane and head home. I got off the plane at my home country and went into the bathroom. My penis was on fire and it was one of the most uncomfortable feelings I have had in my entire lifetime. It was as if there was an open wound at the tip of my penis and someone was pouring alcohol all over it.

Unfortunately, it was night time when it happened at the airport and I couldnt go to my doctor until the morning. I almost felt like just going to the emergency room, but this was a matter that I felt I had to take up with my private doctor rather then deal with it at the public emergency room. It was a long night sleeping with my dick on fire. As soon as that doctor's office opened at 8am, I was in there. I got the prescription for the antibiotics and I remember this long wait at the pharmacy. I hurried them up the best I could saying that I was late for work, but the real reason was flaming penis.

Well guys, this was the most uncomfortable feeling I have had in my entire life. I have barebacked many women back in the states, but I have never caught anything. The entire experience was a big eye opener and taught me a lesson.

Yes I have had a few HIV tests since and am negative.

I have broken bones before and been in accidents. However, the feeling that your dick is on fire is like none other. Its a very private part of your body unlike your hand and if anything happens to it, then your stuck. Luckily, this was all curable and worked out for the better.

It was embarassing trying to explain to the doctor. I didnt tell him that I went to the Phils and picked it up, just told him that it was some woman I was dating.

[QUOTE=Krum Lov]Vroooom, sorry to hear about that experience. can you clarify? you caught chlamydia via giving her oral sex, or by not using condom when having intercourse?

as for bbbj, i'm always worried about them (i'd NEVER go BB with intercourse), but i don't wear condoms when getting BJs. the idea to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] after getting BJ is a good one. what do you guys think about getting the girl to chew on some of that listerine chewing gum you can buy at chemists (it contains abiti-bacterial properties like in mouthwash). think that could help negate chances of stds through bb oral sex?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]I have a good story to share.

I had barfined this one woman more then a few times. We were like buddies. So, one thing led to the next and we started doing it without condoms. She was the only one who I did without a condom ... My penis was on fire and it was one of the most uncomfortable feelings I have had in my entire lifetime ... [/QUOTE]

While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?

Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?

Cheers - Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]Last Saturday night, a friend and I were coming back to the US border in Tijuana when we were accosted by Mexican police. Ostensibly, they were looking for Viagra, which, is sold without prescription everywhere in TJ so I don't know whats illegal with that. Anyway, we were spreadeagled by two cops with nasty attitudes. I had about $500 in my right pocket and tried to keep my right hand on the pocket to prevent the cop from stealing my money. He roughly pulled my hand off, at which point, I turned around to face him. Very slowly, he put his hand in my pocket, pulled out the cash and handed it to me. He then continued with his search, which revealed nothing anyway. I've also had this happen in Bangkok, but as I don't use drugs I don't worry about it.

My feeling about these encounters with the police is that it is a battle of wills. If they wanted to rob you, then they would simply put a gun to your head and take your money. But I haven't heard of that happening. Maybe they're afraid of a scene and perhaps losing their jobs or some other unpleasantness, so usually, they use a pretext to get you to cough up something, like the 'indecent exposure' scam. They are on shaky ground and they know it.

Because I'm never carrying anything illegal, right from the start, I've got a stern, uncompromising attitude. Sure, I comply with their orders, but its obvious to them from the getgo that this isn't going to be an easy extortion. I've always been let go. Never once have they taken it to the next level and asked me for money. It doesn't matter what the language is, they understand by the body language that its going to be a problem. If they did ask for money, then I'd insist on a receipt, with their name on it......at the police station. With the American consul present.

Spam Hog is right that they have the upper hand, but not totally. If they did, they'd dispense with scams and force the money from you. But they fear the hue and cry that would inevitably ensue, so they aren't all powerful.

Of course, all this depends on you, the gringo, being innocent. If you're not, then I guess that you have to start smiling and negotiating :)[/QUOTE]

Interesting report but WTF does TJ have to do with AC?

Actually, chlamydia has no symptoms in 80% of the people affected. The test they would have to run weekly on all the girls would cost quite a bit of money, so I'm assuming the clinics do a visual and maybe a smar that doesn't go anywhere but the trash (cost effective). Remember, it's a requirement to be tested in order for the girls to hold their entertainment license. So they go weekly and get the once over. Who says the clinics are actually doing their jobs? In the States it takes 3 to 7 days for results to come back. Imagine how many mongers a girl can infect in that amount of time? It's really simple...cover that rascal up or pay the consequences.

Always on the Quest

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?

Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?

Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eaglestar]Interesting report but WTF does TJ have to do with AC?[/QUOTE]The report is not about TJ. Its about crooked cops and my take on how to deal with them. I believe its applicable in AC, TJ, BKK, etc.

We all have to realize that many guys do not use condoms with these ladies. These guys are usually the ones who travel about to all of the countries. Whatever these guys caught in one country, they will spread it to someone else in another country.

I see more photos without condoms then with. I oftentimes see guys bragging on how they went "bareback". I dont believe its easy to catch an STD like HIV, but if a guy has sex with over 100+ different women in a year all over asia then the remote odds seem to increase exponentially.

Its nice to do it without a condom. Doing it with someone you just started dating back in your home country is one thing. Usually that date is someone who doesnt have sex everynight with "mongers". However, doing it with a prostitute who has had sex with countless guys (Guys who have had sex with countless prostitutes I might add) is simply asking for a disease.

So to sum it up for everyone here. Yes, there are diseases in these countries and if you dont wear condoms then you will get something at some point in time. For myself, I got lucky and all I went through was flaming urination. There are lots of other diseases with different consequences. If you dont want to deal with the conseuqences, then use condoms.

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?

Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?

Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]While reading the recent posts it seems to me that a number of bargirls spread STD's although all of them have a weekly check-up, or am I wrong?! Bad enough and also a little strange as even an ordinary nurse can detect at least gonorrhea and chlamydia easily. Maybe their weekly health control is worthless?

Folks, I think we need to find asap a store that sells "really reliable condoms". The stuff sold at Seven Eleven ("Trust") breaks namely in 3 out of 5 cases! Has anybody got the same experience?

Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Yeah, be careful with local condoms, especially with that flavored shot called ``Trust``. Yes, once it broke right in the moment of climax and it broked totally in pieces.

Another time I had this surprise with those green oily local condoms.

Best bring your own reputable supply !

Krum Lov,

I got it on my penis, I assumed that since she was working at the internet cafe that she was not a bar-girl, meaning that I assumed she wasn't going with mongerers, however, that was a mistake on my side.

I don't know if she got the chlamydia from a genuine bf or if she was servicing mongerers on the side of her internet job, but, at any rate, it taught me my lesson to put on the rain coat regardless of where she is working.

She's a good looking lady, so I'm sure many other guys were trying to get her in bed, and since the internet cafe was on fields, then chances are she took a few offers.

Play it safe gentlemen.

My first trip I used a condom all the time, but on this last trip when I started using viagra and was horny all the time I slipped up and only used one every now and then. When I got back to Oz I was feeling a bit crook with a touch of flu or cold and started thinking the worst thoughts. I've had the clap once before many years ago and can still remember the pain in my dick - just not worth the risk!

But this time I got lucky and now after almost 2 months back I know I'm okay. But the worry about the stupidity of the risk I was taking has made me swear to myself that next trip I will be covered up each time - well maybe the BJs I'll take a chance!

The odds are stacked against us my friends in places like AC and Manila - bareback is playing russian roulette with your dick!

Try to think with the big head not the little one!

My 2 cents worth anyway!

Cheers,

Pete