San Juan

[QUOTE=Perry Mason #1]WOW!

Thankfully, the casinos are not just filled with rich gringos and $300 *****s. Actually there are plenty of Jeebaros(country-folk) who have come down from the hills to have fun in San Juan. Plenty of these ladies in the 27-35 age group go the Casinos to party. It has been my experience that if you have a little game and can communicate in Spanish they are more than willing to have a one night stand with a pimped out Gringo.[/quote]Pimped out meaning young and in good shape with pleanty of money, If your an older overweight gringo on a budjet, forget about a one night stand.

[quote]I agree that Old San Juan is a great place to party. Yet the crowd tends to be younger and local and more interested in drinking. I'm sure you'll agree that the ladies from San Juan proper are of a different cut of cloth. Old San Juan is a great place to get tanked and to be seen not to find a local one night stand...[/quote]Proper women dont have one night stands, now let say you court a ladie for a few weeks youll probably get lucky. Unless ofcourse you are in shape and have a good outgoing personality you might have better chances.

[quote]Piniones? You think this is a good place for a Gringo to find local women? This place is great for a beach jaunt during the day but it is a different story at night. Sure there is that one Argentinian owned beach bar that sometimes has a good party going on but the rest of that area is not advised for Gringo revelers. First, it is a Regga-tone (that crappy-ass spanish gansta rap) heavy music scene which means every young, wanna-be, drug dealing punk is there and packing heat to prove it. Locals? Again, if not at the Argentinian bar are probably not the kind you want to meet. [/quote]Reggeton is not all of the music you will hear, you will also hear bachata, merengue and salsa. I have never had a problem or seen much problems in Piniones, mostly its just the working class wanting to drink, dance and have a good time. Ofcourse if your an obnoxious loud gringo then thats another story.

[quote]I've spent plenty of time there both during the day and in the evening and it is also where I've seen the post gun-play, shootings, and slowest police response time.[/quote]Never seen much gun play but then again I dont usually stay till 4am, it seems like crime usually ocourse between the hours 3am till 6am.

[quote]You're right that both Condado and Isla Verde are tourist traps but there are also some great local heavy bars and clubs in each area. Additionaly, how is Old San Juan not toursity?[/quote]Isla Verde has more comercial bars than Old San Juan, also Condado is just way to overpriced.

[quote]Your assessment of Puerto Rican women is also way off base. If anything you describe some New-Yorkian based sterotype of low level trash. You've been watching too much West Side Story...[/quote]Considering that i have lived in Puerto Rico for 25 years I think i know what im talking about. Newyorican women are another story and you have a better shot at having a one night stand with one of those ladies.

[quote]Regarding the Crime Overview, I also agree that San Juan is not Baghdad! But nevertheless one needs to take care.

"Once again, Puerto Rico–with a population of 4 million–ended the year with an alarming homicide rate, higher than the three-largest cities in the mainland U.S. With 790 murders reported during 2004, the island had a higher murder rate than New York, Los Angeles, and Chicago.

For the third-consecutive year, the number of murders in New York City (total population 8 million) has been under 600, ending 2004 with 571 murders, 25 less than in 2003. Los Angeles (total population 4 million) reported 511 murders and, for the first time in four decades, Chicago’s (total population 3 million) homicide rate fell below 500 to 445, a 25% decrease compared to 2003.

Puerto Rico’s mean homicide rate is three times that of the total U.S. mainland and four times that of Europe. More than 60% of homicides on the island are linked to drug trafficking although sources within the Puerto Rico Police Department say the percentage may be as high as 75%. Yet, over 60% of all murders in PR are drug related."[/QUOTE]You fail to note that the mayority of the homicide related crimes are

A) Domestic Violence
B)Drug related crime

And of the drug related crimes 80% of the victims were involved in drug related activity.

Reality,

First of all, I´d like to know where you found statistics to refute my claim about the crime rate in Puerto Rico. Read the statistics found in my last post regarding violent crime in Puerto Rico. Unfortunately, criminal enterprise isn´t always very clear about the subdivisions of their nefarious activities. There is plenty of cross-over in the realms of illegal enterprise: Guns, Drugs, Prostitutes, Money-Laundering, etc. Additionally, Puerto Rican police are ill equipped to fight the worst of the criminal offenders on the island. Travelers take note and carry a big stick.

Secondly, almost always the best guidebooks and travel narratives are written by foreigners who have spent a year or two in the destination in question. They write with an understanding of their audience and are critical of things that the local has grown used to. Therefore, I disagree with your argument that because you have lived on the island for 25 years means you know what your talking about.

Unfortunately, Puerto Ricans are generally too proud to write anything critical about their island so it takes an outsider to give that critical perspective.

Hi everyone:

The honest truth is ASS is expensive in PR. $120-150 in parlors. And $100 in private residences that serve as brothels.

I have some NEW, I recently contacted the pimp of the reggaeton "models"(*****s) that rutinely are paid for sex and then appear in music videos. I am talking about the gatas...By the way I HATE reggaeton.

The guy has an answering machine and you must place an order to get a call back. He asks for $200-300 for each girl, but the girls I spoke to, are willing to go as low as $150. What does this mean? NEW MEAT, and the ability to get those girls on the damn videos.

The other unknown source of Putas is Dominican owned bars in Carolina, just last week, one was intervened and a brothel was in work in a back room. I just need to find some of those bars.

Also I have an Idea on how to get phone numbers from girls, I want to post an ad in the Vocero, looking for girls for a new club, during the auditions I can get their phone #'s and see the quality of the girls, something you cannot do in the dark MP's. I have been flirting with the idea of opening one such place and later on, import talent from Brazil.

I'm looking for Redheads, and if you provide me with a good contact. I will gladly pay you a round of beers.

Sincerely, Don Ricoh

[QUOTE=Perry Mason #1]Reality,

First of all, I´d like to know where you found statistics to refute my claim about the crime rate in Puerto Rico. Read the statistics found in my last post regarding violent crime in Puerto Rico. Unfortunately, criminal enterprise isn´t always very clear about the subdivisions of their nefarious activities. There is plenty of cross-over in the realms of illegal enterprise: Guns, Drugs, Prostitutes, Money-Laundering, etc. Additionally, Puerto Rican police are ill equipped to fight the worst of the criminal offenders on the island. Travelers take note and carry a big stick.[/quote]Okay fuck you with your big stick comment. Second I LIVE IN PUERTO RICO. I have lived here for 25 years! if anyone is qualified to talk about PR its me. Third the police are no sufficient because the goverment short changes them, they get paid peanuts, which has lead to corruption in the police force. Drug trade is the big crime in Puerto Rico but as for guns and prostution, not that much. Rossello closed all the brothels in Puerto Rico and the church groups would jump down the politicians throats if they heard of one opening up again.

[quote]Secondly, almost always the best guidebooks and travel narratives are written by foreigners who have spent a year or two in the destination in question. They write with an understanding of their audience and are critical of things that the local has grown used to. Therefore, I disagree with your argument that because you have lived on the island for 25 years means you know what your talking about. [/quote]This is the most ridiculous thing i have ever read.

[quote]Unfortunately, Puerto Ricans are generally too proud to write anything critical about their island so it takes an outsider to give that critical perspective.[/QUOTE]Not only is this comment bordeline racist but its completly inacurate, Puertocians have written many books critizing the current society. We debate about our future and how we treat the land we live in. So we dont sugarcoat anything, there are mayor problems in Puerto Rico brought about by our goverment and greed. Can we solve it? perhaps over time. But dont sit there and tell me that Puertoricans are stupid and naive because its that kind of ignorance that has made the world a unsafe place to be.

Yes, Puerto Rico has a high murder rate. Not bigger than in Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Venezuela and other latin countries. Crime in PR has more media publicity than in almost any USA city and latin countries, creating an impression that PR is more dangerous than any other place. But the crime is not spread across the country. Just avoid the bad areas. Must of crime is drug related, so if you are not in that business you dont have to be scared. NY statitiscs are not fair, I have an uncle that is on NYPD and he told me that over 150 deads from car to car gun shootings were classiffied as car accidents. So you can play with statistics. In the last 15 yrs. only 2 tourists have been killed here, the first one drug related and the other was killed by a "friend" from Chicago.

In conclusion, if you are not into illegal activities PR is a very safe place, just take the normal precautions you take in any city.

And about the topic of this forum, prostitution, yes, local scene sucks. Thanks God is not difficult to get a girl in parties on discos and dancing saloons and pubs.

Hello all, planning to move to San Juan in January for a little while (job related).

Looking for a website for escorts in San Juan, but googled and couldn't find one?! Anyone know of any sites for chicas?

Also, anyone with any volunteer information about areas to live in ( I have to be near universidad de puerto rico (preferably north of the university)), etc. private message me. Thanks all!

Jon,

I just sent you a PM with specific details on living arrangements near UPR.

If you´ll be at UPR-Recinto Rio Piedras (the main campus) you could either live in nearby Rio Piedras (lots of students on one part of the barrio, lots of Dominicans on the other side, kinda dumpy overall) but very close to campus and generally pretty cheap.

If you have your own wheels and the cash then I´d go for Viejo San Juan as you´re in the most desirable place to live and always close to the action however parking can be a real pain as well as traffic to get to the campus.

Forget about the escort scene website or any decent p4p action in my opinion. Reality and I disagree on the degree of how bad it sucks and as to the best spots to catch local non-pro ladies.

PM me for any other specific questions.

[QUOTE=Jon32]Hello all, planning to move to San Juan in January for a little while (job related).

Looking for a website for escorts in San Juan, but googled and couldn't find one?! Anyone know of any sites for chicas?

Also, anyone with any volunteer information about areas to live in ( I have to be near universidad de puerto rico (preferably north of the university)), etc. private message me. Thanks all![/QUOTE]Well first let me say welcome to Puerto Rico. Now since you will be studying in the UPR, I assume its on the main campus of Rio Piedras there are numerous cheap apartments to rent in that area for students, although its not exactly 5 star or anythinng at least your close to classes. Another thing you should keep in mind is that once you get a job save up to buy a car used or new doesnt matter just that you need a car if your going to get around in PR.

Also escorts dont normally visit residential areas i mean some do ofcourse but the mayority of an escorts clientel are from the hotels. Not to mention they are kind of overpriced anyway.

Honestly since your going to be in the UPR, i just suggest you go to the student center and look up info on the latest party or group meeting, Also there is a very popular student bar called "El Ocho de Blanco" in that area as well as other bars that get packed with students playing pool and drinking having a good time.

Dont act like a drunken asshole and you should have a good time.

Cheers!

Hey Guys Bronx monger here comming down in a couple weeks will be staying in Isla Verde wanted to know whats going on and get some pointers!

Is it easy for a gringo to get around - walking, driving? Where should I go ? I would like to be safe and not have to worry.

Will be down the 28 to the 1st, so a couple weeks from now, thats all. Let me know, even just good restuarants and things like that. Is it easy to drive? Do most speak english?

Thanks,

Bx Loco

[QUOTE=Bx Loco Gringo]Hey Guys Bronx monger here comming down in a couple weeks will be staying in Isla Verde wanted to know whats going on and get some pointers!

Is it easy for a gringo to get around - walking, driving? Where should I go ? I would like to be safe and not have to worry.

Will be down the 28 to the 1st, so a couple weeks from now, thats all. Let me know, even just good restuarants and things like that. Is it easy to drive? Do most speak english?

Thanks,

Bx Loco[/QUOTE]Its sort of like driving in New York where you have to watch your back because driving here kinda sucks since you have to have your defensive up.

Also check out the Alternative Massage in Isla Verde to get some action thats between the pizzeria and bamboos cafe (i think thats the name).

Do NOT go to Divas, DO NOT go to Santrope, DO NOT got to cheetas these strip clubs are overpriced and you will not get any action.

Grab a cab and tell him to take to you Frenchies in Santurce or Frenchies in Hato Rey (although this one is smaller and more run down). Allot of fine chicas who will go all the way.

WARNING PUERTO RICO IS NOT CHEAP. If you want cheap sex change your ticket to Dominican Republic.

P.S Most folks know some english, so dont get frustrated.

[QUOTE=Joelito]Does anyone knows about a place called El Diplomatico?

I saw the sign in Puerto Nuevo near Frenchies but I need to know if anyone has been there and has any Idea about pricing and stuff.[/QUOTE]I've driven by El Diplomatico 4 or 5 times and NEVER seen it ope .

Perhaps others can comment. Does this place open occasionally?

[QUOTE=Frogger]I've driven by El Diplomatico 4 or 5 times and NEVER seen it ope .

Perhaps others can comment. Does this place open occasionally?[/QUOTE]A friend of mine went in there once he said it was mostly a freak show and full of bad company and rough crowds. It does open but only weekends and I think past midnight.

I think alround that P.R. is not the place for p4p. Even the massage and escort services are really limited. Anal is not widely offered, unless you want to try one of the many TVs that seem to make a good living on the island.

[QUOTE=Alan]I think alround that P.R. is not the place for p4p. Even the massage and escort services are really limited. Anal is not widely offered, unless you want to try one of the many TVs that seem to make a good living on the island.[/QUOTE]I second your opinion Alan, Anal is not accepted at all, if your a fan of anal I recomend saving your money and heading to Brazil.

So if I were at the Marriot what you are saying is that there is really nothing around?

Bx Loco