Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Frannie;1808572]I think you must have been there during a power outage. The bus journey ends at the Caribe Tours terminus which is on the main carretera in the center of Charamicos, not an isolated or particularly dark spot by any means. [/QUOTE]I went to Caribe terminus in Sosua, on two separate occasions, some time this year, waiting for two different chicas arriving very late, after a day at work, from where they live. While I do agree with you that the area is not scary, it is no way like a terminus in a traditional sense. Yes, there are cabs and conchos waiting there but the place has a desolate look and feel at that hour. Of course, I was there waiting which is different from someone who is arriving. I waited in my car (I think I was the only one) and I had no reason to be scared but for someone not familiar, it could be somewhat disconcerting. In that sense, Cerebro did well by posting the alert so the visitor is aware.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1808572]That way you will arrive in the center of Sosua, but you will have to take a moto from Caribe Tours in Puerto Plata to the hospital to pick up a cab.[/QUOTE]Good idea, Frannie, to get out in Pto Pta rather than Los Charamicos.

Surely the Sosua-bound publicos still go past the Caribe Tours depot on Camino Real?

Only disadvantage is you would be lucky to find a vacant front seat, but that is hardly sufficient reason to take a moto to the Parada de Sosua. And you could always buy a second seat later once someone gets out.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1808746]Good idea, Frannie, to get out in Pto Pta rather than Los Charamicos.

Surely the Sosua-bound publicos still go past the Caribe Tours depot on Camino Real?

Only disadvantage is you would be lucky to find a vacant front seat, but that is hardly sufficient reason to take a moto to the Parada de Sosua. And you could always buy a second seat later once someone gets out.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do, but I did not want to make it too complicated to understand, and no one but you and me knows that road is called Camino Real, because I have never seen a street name sign for it, but once had a dentist whose office had that address. But, yes you can hail a Sosua public taxi on Camino Real. You want one that is headed towards the Malecon, because it will turn right and go up the hill towards the hospital..

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1808591]When I used the Caribe tours bus was last year and it was the last bus. At 11 pm, the were no businesses opened and no one was around when the bus arrived. The Caribe tours office was also closed and all the businesses around were all closed. Caribe tours does not have a terminal. The Caribe tours buses park on a side of the main road and Caribe tours only has a small office there. When I got there, there was no place to get refuge, nobody to ask questions, all solitary. There was no black out as far as I know and the area was pitch black. Maybe now is different. All of the people that were dropped off by the bus stop were left there. And to get to the Texaco station area were the Metro stop is and a taxi terminal was like you said about a mile. A couple of motoconcho people came by when the bus arrive and were yelling "montense rapido que hay tigres con pistolas por aqui, tenemos que irnos antes que vengan" which means get on the motoconcho quick because there are tigers (delinquents) with guns in this area and we have to go before they come. And that was quite persuasive because everyone that was on the stop including me just got into the motoconchos quickly to get out of there in a hurry. After seeing how that I was I don't think I will ever take the last Caribe tours bus late at night unless someone is waiting for me there. I would rather stay in Santiago for the night and take a morning bus. Some areas in Sosua are quite dangerous at night, and that area is not that safe late at night, believe it or not, and being a Gringo with dollars we are easy targets. I would no recommend to any Gringo or Dominicano to take the last Caribe tours to go to Sosua. But everyone has a different comfort zone. I still think during daylight hours is pretty safe to be there but not late at night.[/QUOTE]Well, if it was pitch dark, there must have been an outage, because normally there is some lighting in that area.

The line about the tigres with pistols sounds like a good sales pitch for the motoconcho drivers. I am not saying it could never happen, but I have never heard of passengers arriving on Caribe Tours at Charamicos being robbed at gunpoint, and surely that would have made the news. Don't get me wrong, Caribe Tours buses are prone to stick-ups and that is why if you are getting out between Santiago and Puerto Plata and Puerto Plata and Sosua, you have to take your baggage inside, because the drivers are not allowed to open up the baggage compartment in between terminuses. Yes, it is just a small office in Charamicos, but they still regard it as a sufficiently safe place to open up the baggage compartments, so the bus drivers can't be that scared of that location. I don't want to wrongly advise people to take risks, but I have arrived there more than once late at night--I don't remember exactly how many times, but at least 3, and it has never occurred to me that I was putting myself in danger.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1808331]While in Sosua I had a first session with a Dominican Pro. We respected each other in the session went well. I showed her some of the hair I have to sell. She said her would like to buy some ASAP. I told her no problem get with me tomorrow. The next morning I was getting a call on my US phone. It was a Dominican number. I called the number back with my Dominican phone and it was the same girl. She wanted her friend to buy the hair. I was like how the hell did you get my US number! I didn't even give you my name. She said she went around and talked to some chicas until she had my name and my number in the US. I was flabbergasted. These hoes really have a network of information going on.[/QUOTE]Your right everybody knows everybody but hell you have to be a real bad boy to fuck up they are all in this big game together men and there women. Sosua is made for fucking and partying but beware when the hoes tell you there hungry feed there ass quick.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1808912]The line about the tigres with pistols sounds like a good sales pitch for the motoconcho drivers. [/QUOTE]I will have to agree with you here. If there are tigres lurking, they would not have advertised it through the moto concho drivers. Certainly the buses that I have had occasions to see, were full of people and most after disembarking, dissipated within a short span of time, through various modes, especially motorcycles but taxis as well. It was weird waiting there at the intersection, seeing traffic light turning red to green and vice versa many many times over as other lights being not very strong, the one thing that catches your attention were the traffic lights.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1808907]Yes, they do, but I did not want to make it too complicated to understand, and no one but you and me knows that road is called Camino Rea[/QUOTE]You don't need to know the name of the road, you just walk 20 yards to the main road and hail a publico on your side of the road. Less complicated than riding a moto to the hospital, especially if you have luggage.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1808907]... once had a dentist whose office had that address. [/QUOTE]Before I knew the city, I had an appointment with a lawyer whose card and telephoned instructions gave his address as Camino Real (no number). I walked up and down the road but could not spot his office. When I finally managed to get through on the phone he sent a gofer with a jeepita to collect me. Turned out his office was in Separacion, a third of a mile away. He had been practising there for five years and did not know his own street name. Only in the DR.

Dominicans are incredibly casual about addresses and directions. The street where my apartment is has three totally different names on my Claro, Edenorte and Coraaplata invoices. Building numbers along a road may start OK with 1, 2, 3, 4 or 1, 3, 5, 7 with the even numbers on the other side of the street, but then they will jump from 43 to 83 in adjacent buildings, or the odds and evens will switch sides, or there will be a run of buildings without numbers before they resume where they left off.

But say "the green house next to Manuel who used to be the fish manager for Silverio Messon and whose nephew emigrated to Nuebol Yol and got knifed near the Yankee Stadium" and anyone in the city could take you straight there.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1808966] But say "the green house next to Manuel who used to be the fish manager for Silverio Messon and whose nephew emigrated to Nuebol Yol and got knifed near the Yankee Stadium" and anyone in the city could take you straight there.[/QUOTE]I cracked up with this, Charles Pooter, especially the Nuebo Yol thing. Thanks.

Coming from where I come from, I suspect it is essentially a 3rd world thing. Logic does not hold much value and people not being used to cars, know / recognize places in reference to other things, including landmarks and people from Nuebo Yol. Even here, I. E. , in Boston, students in the city for example, who do not have a car and use public transport may not know / recall the name of a street and instead rely on landmarks.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1809359]I cracked up with this, Charles Pooter, especially the Nuebo Yol thing. Thanks.

Coming from where I come from, I suspect it is essentially a 3rd world thing. Logic does not hold much value and people not being used to cars, know / recognize places in reference to other things, including landmarks and people from Nuebo Yol. Even here, I. E. , in Boston, students in the city for example, who do not have a car and use public transport may not know / recall the name of a street and instead rely on landmarks.[/QUOTE]LOL.

Getting Wetter Onions from Nueve Yersi comes to mind.

I have been going to Sosua for years, I don't know any more than the main two streets and certainly no street numbers, Even the taxis and motos use landmarks, not streets.

All you need to know is Texaco, Populaire, Ice Cream Shop, Rhumba, Europa, New York Pizza and you'll find almost any hotel, drug store, supermarket or restaurant.

Wich reminds me, I have never seen a mailman, or mail being delivered to any location I have been. I never thought to ask, although my GF who lives on the other side of the Island tells me she can receive FedEx and stuff, if it is sent to some main location, like a bar or restaurant, where she can pick it up.

Do you get mail delivery, Charles?

I got sosua from santiago. I was hoping to take the bus but I fucked when I checked a luggage. I only got out of the airport at 7. 15 pm. On my way to the aiport the bus driver started to tell me that there was no 7. 30 pm. I knew he was lying and would make sure I don't get to the bus station before 7. 30 pm. Long story short I paid 70 for the cab. I was in no mood to wait for the last bus leaving santiago.

My game plan this time is one girl during the day. And two or three at night. I have been paying like 2000 peso for ST. I paid 3000 last night. We had agreed 2000 last night but I had to add another 1000 to bang her this morning.

So far I haven't been rushed or had a bad experience. I am also not trying to get any girls staying outside of rumba or walking the street during the day.

Classicos was packed last night, but I hate that because I can't see the girl well. Tall, big ass, slim waist, cute face is my type. Last night I had to settle for an average girl because I got too picky LOL. A group of guys had pretty much all the girls I wanted.

I see a lot of guys staying with a girl all day. I am not sure if they are paying for that. I am assuming the girl won't complain if you feed her.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1809541]
Which reminds me, I have never seen a mailman, or mail being delivered to any location I have been. I never thought to ask, although my GF who lives on the other side of the Island tells me she can receive FedEx and stuff, if it is sent to some main location, like a bar or restaurant, where she can pick it up.

Do you get mail delivery, Charles?[/QUOTE]There is a post office in Puerto Plata. You can collect stuff addressed to you "post restante" there. The problem is you need to know when it has arrived there. Go too early and you could waste a few trips, go too late and it has been stolen or allegedly been "returned to sender" as uncollected. A bribe to ring you once received may help.

I believe there is some sort of mail delivery within large city centers like Santiago and SD. Not sure about places like Pto Pta and certainly not anywhere outside commercial centers. If there are postmen, they probably do not wear uniforms, so you would not spot them. All the utilities use their own staff to deliver bills and do not wear uniforms either.

Post sent abroad from DR post offices is extremely unreliable. Sometimes it arrives quickly, sometimes six months later or never.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1809672]I got sosua from santiago. I was hoping to take the bus but I fucked when I checked a luggage. I only got out of the airport at 7. 15 pm. On my way to the aiport the bus driver started to tell me that there was no 7. 30 pm. I knew he was lying and would make sure I don't get to the bus station before 7. 30 pm. Long story short I paid 70 for the cab. I was in no mood to wait for the last bus leaving santiago.[/QUOTE]Glad you make it to Sosua and started having fun. I forgot to mention that besides the Caribe tours and Metro buses in Santiago, there is a another option to get to Sosua. That option is a big or small guagua / bus that departs from La rotonda (circle) located in the barrio libertad in Santiago. They are even cheaper than Caribe tours or the metro and for less than $5 dollars ride you could get from Santiago to Puerto Plata. The rotonda is one of the Santiago exits to the north. The guaguas don't go directly to Sosua, but they will go to Puerto Plata. They also have buses running late at night. Then from Puerto Plata you could catch a carrito shared taxi or another guagua or regular taxi to Sosua is much cheaper 2-4 times cheaper than the $70 dollar Santiago to Puerto Plata rate. A motoconcho ride from Puerto Plata to Sosua is neither conformable nor safe because the ride has too many miles. Those guaguas are less comfortable thought and you may end up of some chickens or big ass girl or guy on your lap, they sometime may look like the pic bellow. And that is not a joke LOL.

Cerebro

[QUOTE=Oakie;1809541]LOL.

Getting Wetter Onions from Nueve Yersi comes to mind.

I have been going to Sosua for years, I don't know any more than the main two streets and certainly no street numbers, Even the taxis and motos use landmarks, not streets.

All you need to know is Texaco, Populaire, Ice Cream Shop, Rhumba, Europa, New York Pizza and you'll find almost any hotel, drug store, supermarket or restaurant.

Wich reminds me, I have never seen a mailman, or mail being delivered to any location I have been. I never thought to ask, although my GF who lives on the other side of the Island tells me she can receive FedEx and stuff, if it is sent to some main location, like a bar or restaurant, where she can pick it up.

Do you get mail delivery, Charles?[/QUOTE]Oh, come on Oakster, most people will know Pedro Clissante, Alejandro Martinez, Dr. Rosen, Calle Ayuntamiento and the carretera. Some may even know David Stern and Calle Sin Salida. There are others like Hispaniola, Portugal, Alemania, Mexico, Guatemala, Finlandia, Cuba, Jamaica, and Francia and other streets named after countries that a very few will remember, but will recognize when they see them.

The Post Office in Sosua is located in a corner of the small shopping mall on the carretera on the same side as Texaco, but 100 meters towards Cabarete. You have to pick your mail up there, but sometimes if you have a packet, they will send a moto to let you know. There are no drive-by mailing facilities. The Post Office in Puerto Plata is on a corner of Separacion and 12th July near el Parque and has recently had a facelift.

[QUOTE=Durandpaul;1809672]I got sosua from santiago. I was hoping to take the bus but I fucked when I checked a luggage. I only got out of the airport at 7. 15 pm. On my way to the aiport the bus driver started to tell me that there was no 7. 30 pm. I knew he was lying and would make sure I don't get to the bus station before 7. 30 pm. Long story short I paid 70 for the cab. I was in no mood to wait for the last bus leaving santiago.

My game plan this time is one girl during the day. And two or three at night. I have been paying like 2000 peso for ST. I paid 3000 last night. We had agreed 2000 last night but I had to add another 1000 to bang her this morning.

So far I haven't been rushed or had a bad experience. I am also not trying to get any girls staying outside of rumba or walking the street during the day.

Classicos was packed last night, but I hate that because I can't see the girl well. Tall, big ass, slim waist, cute face is my type. Last night I had to settle for an average girl because I got too picky LOL. A group of guys had pretty much all the girls I wanted.

I see a lot of guys staying with a girl all day. I am not sure if they are paying for that. I am assuming the girl won't complain if you feed her.[/QUOTE]The last bus leaves Santo Domingo at 7:00 pm So it leaves Santiago around 8:30 pm We have had this discussion before. However it is your money, but this is just for information for others who might want to know what time the last bus leaves. Note that in the summer time this connection is much harder to make due to the later arrival of the flight.

[URL]http://www.caribetours.com.do/santo%20domingo.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=Frannie;1809719]The last bus leaves Santo Domingo at 7:00 pm So it leaves Santiago around 8:30 pm We have had this discussion before. However it is your money, but this is just for information for others who might want to know what time the last bus leaves. Note that in the summer time this connection is much harder to make due to the later arrival of the flight.

[URL]http://www.caribetours.com.do/santo%20domingo.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]Yep the last bus leaves at 8. 30 pm. I was just too tired to wait for another hour.