Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638589]If I did think that paying for sex were inmoral, I wouldn't be doing it.

To think that something is immoral yet go ahead and do it anyway! How disgusting is that ideology? In their world, they are not better than paedophiles.[/QUOTE]Very few people do things which they think are immoral. That doesn't make them moral. It's just simple human rationalization at work.

Morality is determined by the wider community, not the individual. To determine if an act is moral all you need to do is ask your family, friends and neighbors.

That doesn't mean something the community considers immoral is right or wrong. Often the action is both moral and immoral, depending on the various communities you belong to.

For example, within the community of mongers there's nothing immoral about paying for sex. However, within the community of your high school reunion, it's probably immoral. Within the community of mongers, overpaying a prostitute is immoral, but within the community of prostitutes it's desirable behavior.

Morality is a tricky subject, because it's often used in a negative way. I'll use you as the example here.

You've claimed you're morally superior because you follow a vegan diet. Yet, rather than focusing upon the benefits of a vegan diet, you use it as an insult for anyone who disagrees with you. And as you've pointed out, being disrespectful and insulting is wrong.

Looking at the entire community of living creatures, there's nothing immoral about eating meat. From the bottom of the food chain to the top, digesting the flesh of other beings is the accepted norm. Even the plants take part in it, taking nutrients from the decay of other living things. Even the vegans take part in it. They just put on blinders and pretend that since the animal exploitation and death is indirect, they're okay with it.

I could have simplified all that by pointing out that if I do something, like eat meat, which I don't believe is immoral, then by your own words, it becomes moral. I could also point out that pedophiles don't consider their acts immoral, neither do rapists or murderers. However, since morality is another of the subjects you don't comprehend, I figured further discussion was necessary.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2638670]Very few people do things which they think are immoral. That doesn't make them moral. It's just simple human rationalization at work.

Morality is determined by the wider community, not the individual. To determine if an act is moral all you need to do is ask your family, friends and neighbors.

That doesn't mean something the community considers immoral is right or wrong. Often the action is both moral and immoral, depending on the various communities you belong to.

For example, within the community of mongers there's nothing immoral about paying for sex. However, within the community of your high school reunion, it's probably immoral. Within the community of mongers, overpaying a prostitute is immoral, but within the community of prostitutes it's desirable behavior.

Morality is a tricky subject, because it's often used in a negative way. I'll use you as the example here.

You've claimed you're morally superior because you follow a vegan diet. Yet, rather than focusing upon the benefits of a vegan diet, you use it as an insult for anyone who disagrees with you. And as you've pointed out, being disrespectful and insulting is wrong.

Looking at the entire community of living creatures, there's nothing immoral about eating meat. From the bottom of the food chain to the top, digesting the flesh of other beings is the accepted norm. Even the plants take part in it, taking nutrients from the decay of other living things..[/QUOTE]Blablabla, you're wrong.

[URL]https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/morality[/URL]

When will you stop embarrassing yourself? You're way too stupid to try to lecture others.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2638667]Hey is it true that anti-vaxxers can no longer get into Colombia? Lmao jajaja.[/QUOTE]Some cannot get into "cee or dee" rated restaurants.

Hahahaha.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2638545]You are so stupid.
In a double blind study the researchers would not know if each subject was vegan or not.
Plenty of vegan and non-vegan subjects in the world makes you prior quote insanely stupid:[/QUOTE]Of course they would have to choose vegans for the study you fkn moron. You are now banned along with the other 3 fkn morons here. Stupid byeond belief the lot of you.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638706]Of course they would have to choose vegans for the study you fkn moron. You are now banned along with the other 3 fkn morons here. Stupid beyond belief the lot of you.[/QUOTE]Don't forget to burn all the books.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638706]Of course they would have to choose vegans for the study you fkn moron. You are now banned along with the other 3 fkn morons here. Stupid byeond belief the lot of you.[/QUOTE]So, you fucking moron, in a double blind study, the researchers are unaware of the subjects' status because the research subjects were selected independently. Independent selection of the subjects is one part of the "double" blind process, meaning random selection from a given target population. Survey the target population and determine it is X% vegan and why% not.

Set up sample pools of vegans and non vegans. Use a statistically appropriate randomized (single blind) sample size with a finite population correction factor from each of the two pools. Then the second part of the double blind process (get it? [B]Second[/B] part? Double blind?) is that the people performing the research and analysis must not know whether the subjects are vegan or not.

It's like you want to set up a fucking moron contest but assure in advance you'll win. That's not a double blind test either but you have a good shot at winning.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2638657]You forgot the UV light therapy.[/QUOTE]I live in the tropics at 1600 meters of elevation and take huge risks by like walking around without sunscreen or a hat. I was thinking that would cover it. Plus I stand in front of the microwave while it's cooking, and I do have half a roll of tin foil if anything goes wrong.

108 doses per 100 people worldwide now. Spot the vaccine. Where is it? Haha. . Obvious. Super effective vax in securing the people against the virus. You guys really are like flat earhers, or young earthers. What evidence do you need to see before you finally accept that you have been fed BS?

Portugal ... 88% fully vaxd... 3rd highest vax rate in the world... going thru a 3rd covid wave now. Singapore, just passed its highest peak. S Korea now at record cases and deaths.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638706]Of course they would have to choose vegans for the study you fkn moron. You are now banned along with the other 3 fkn morons here. Stupid byeond belief the lot of you.[/QUOTE]Again you display that you have no idea of the difference between single-blind and double-blind studies.

In a single blind study, none of the participants is told anything relevant about what they receive (like real or placebo drugs).

The participants are also not told much of anything about who the other participants are, or what they receive.

The double-blind studies have the exact same information voids for the participants (outlined above).

But additionally most of the researchers are not told key information about the participants (I. Vegan vs, non-vegan) on a need to know basis.

This prevents most researcher bias by having them lack the knowledge about participants that could bias them.

Only a few select research administrators know complete participant profiles in well managed studies.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638589]If I did think that paying for sex were inmoral, I wouldn't be doing it.

To think that something is immoral yet go ahead and do it anyway! How disgusting is that ideology? In their world, they are not better than paedophiles.[/QUOTE]JJ's comments were off the deep end, and I have to tell you as a meat eater I look at vegan as I would a Muslim looks at a Christian and vice versa. Of course, the Muslim and Christian think each of their religions are morally superior.

But when I have logically confronted people about the fallacies of religion, they ultimately say, "Okay it is not logical but I feel better when I go. " The irony is that people who are religious IMO and some studies have shown this to be true are healthier and happier. This is like the Santa Claus paradox if you logically and correctly accept Santa / God is not real, you do not get presents so why not believe in Santa / God as long as you can?

If I wanted to point out the flaws in veganism, I would say that by killing and eating a wild bear, I am actually saving the hundreds of other animals the bear would eat.

With regards to raising say pigs, I would point out that the pig I am raising and cared for got a chance at life before I ate it. Given the choice of a life ending in death and no life at all, I think all species would choose the former.

However, if you pinned me down, I would say that I just like eating meat and feel better when I do. There was a book called eat right for your blood type and it postulated that my blood type, O, did better with meat as we were the oldest blood type associated with hunting and gathering. The blood type A came about when man started to farm, and that type did better without or with less meat.

In addition, I am not a natural empath. I can turn it on if I need to, but it is not my default setting, so I can enjoy meat. However, I do get that empaths cannot do that. With them, they taste not just the meat but the flesh and cannot help but place them in the suffering an animal endured.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638765]108 doses per 100 people worldwide now. Spot the vaccine. Where is it? . Haha. . Obvious. Super effective vax in securing the people against the virus. You guys really are like flat earhers, or young earthers. What evidence do you need to see before you finally accept that you have been fed BS?

Portugal ... 88% fully vaxd... 3rd highest vax rate in the world... going thru a 3rd covid wave now. Singapore, just passed its highest peak. S Korea now at record cases and deaths.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Joe Rogan and the people he has on his show have been all over this. Quite frankly, the data on Ivermectin for covid prevention is like 100 X better than the vaccine (actually you could use infinity because the vaccine does not prevent disease).

Here is an article on it and if you scroll down, you will see the Joe Rogan video. The surprising part is that it is on Youtube and has not been banned.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/top-cardiologist-tells-joe-rogan-intentional-plot-suppress-early-covid-treatments[/URL]

And then you have the insane story of the day: Twitter, which dubs itself the arbiter of medical misinformation through its constellation of conflicted 'fact-checkers,' will start imposing penalties on users who claim that vaccinated people can spread Covid-19. Maybe JJBee started this one up?

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/twitter-punish-users-who-claim-vaccinated-individuals-can-still-spread-covid-19[/URL]

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2638667]Hey is it true that anti-vaxxers can no longer get into Colombia? Lmao jajaja.[/QUOTE]Soon. I'm working on making sure the Colombian Ministry of Health knows how to catch them with their fake vax cards.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638706]Of course they would have to choose vegans for the study you fkn moron. You are now banned along with the other 3 fkn morons here. Stupid byeond belief the lot of you.[/QUOTE]There are many ways to react when someone points out your lack of understanding of a subject. One way is to examine the subject, learn and continue through life using your newfound knowledge.

Or you can choose the 5 year old reaction: stick your fingers in your ears, stick out your tongue and say "nyah, nyah, nyah, I can't hear you."

I guess you have to go with what you're good at.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638765]108 doses per 100 people worldwide now. Spot the vaccine. Where is it? . Haha. . Obvious. Super effective vax in securing the people against the virus. You guys really are like flat earhers, or young earthers. What evidence do you need to see before you finally accept that you have been fed BS?

Portugal ... 88% fully vaxd... 3rd highest vax rate in the world... going thru a 3rd covid wave now. Singapore, just passed its highest peak. S Korea now at record cases and deaths.[/QUOTE]So are you saying the record deaths in South Korea are from vaccinated people?

[QUOTE=JustTK;2638765]108 doses per 100 people worldwide now. Spot the vaccine. Where is it? . Haha. . Obvious. Super effective vax in securing the people against the virus. You guys really are like flat earhers, or young earthers. What evidence do you need to see before you finally accept that you have been fed BS?

Portugal ... 88% fully vaxd... 3rd highest vax rate in the world... going thru a 3rd covid wave now. Singapore, just passed its highest peak. S Korea now at record cases and deaths.[/QUOTE]Imagine going through life and at every point choosing dishonesty and stupidity. Or you can just observe specimen #1 here.

Let's go with the dishonesty first. The suppurating vagina known as JustTK stated he is not anti-vax, he's just anti-vivisection. Clearly a lie, as he has once again gone on an anti-vax rant.

Now for the stupidity. The malignant rectal polyp has cherry picked 3 countries but failed to examine the data. Let's start with South Korea. Early in the pandemic South Korea saw a surge in infections. They went all out in response and became the poster child for how to flatten the curve. And until fairly recently they maintained their response, with a great deal of success.

However, with their vaccination campaign proceeding well, they have loosened restrictions. Anyone smarter then an ingrown toenail recognizes that vaccination is only one piece of the Covid attenuation plan. When you abandon the other parts, there will be more infections. Add in new variants which are more contagious and the number of new cases will climb quickly.

Which brings us to 2 important numbers:

1. 75.6%- that's the percentage of South Korean Covid deaths which were unvaccinated as of November. With over 90% of adults vaccinated this clearly shows that the vaccines are highly effective at preventing death.

2. 0. 8%- That's the percentage of Covid cases in South Korea which were fatal. During the peak in March, 2020 that number was 2.4%. Part of that is due to better therapies of Covid cases, and part is due to added protection from the vaccine.

Next step on the "proof JustTK is an idiot" tour, Singapore. Singapore's story is about the same as South Korea's, an early spike followed by an all out response which flattened the curve and kept it flat for well over a year. Once restrictions were lifted, a surge of infections and deaths. It's worth noticing, if you're more observant than a genital wart, that Singapore has seen a recent sharp decline in new cases and deaths.

Something else worth noting is Singapore has declared that unvaccinated people are responsible for the cost of Covid treatment. Surely an intelligent person with integrity would have noticed that before choosing Singapore as an example of an ineffective vaccine.

If you prefer numbers, Singapore reports that 5.2 of every 100,000 unvaccinated people are critically ill or intubated in ICU from Covid. That's compared to 0.5 of every 100,000 fully vaccinated people.

Now let's hop on the dumbfuck express for a trip to Portugal. At first glance Portugal might be an example of vaccine ineffectiveness. However, at first glance a lot of trannies look like women, so it's best to take a closer look.

First thing I see is that the current surge is nowhere near the peak Portugal experienced in January. Next let's do some math. We need 4 numbers; new cases and deaths for January and for December. We'll use the 7 day average for January 25 and December 11.

New cases January 25 - 12,373.

Deaths January 25 - 242.

New cases December 11 - 3,915.

Deaths December 11 - 19.

We can assume that almost nobody was vaccinated on January 25, and most people were vaccinated by December 11. All we need to do is divide deaths by new cases and we know whether or not the vaccine does any good.

January 25 -0.01956, or about 2% of unvaccinated COVID cases died.

December 11 - 0.00485, or about 0. 5% of vaccinated Covid cases died. Of course that's assuming that none of the cases or deaths were unvaccinated, an assumption which data from around the world shows is invalid.

So what have we learned today? We've learned that JustTK is a clueless idiot who can't be trusted and we've learned that the vaccine is highly effective at preventing serious illness or death. Just to be clear, serious illness and death are the only reasons anyone cares about Covid.