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[QUOTE=MrHo;2446291]I have been to Brasov as I mentioned before and it is nice, but I could not monger there because I went with a girl and she is not from FKK, so I could not monger in Brasov or in Bucharest LOL, who knew back then I would be fucking so many Romanian girls in Germany years later LOL!
Siri, don't be big headed, it is not only you who are invited to Romania or shown family photos, I have not been shown baby photo, but first two I have too, and I don't even talk to them too much except enough being nice. I am not nosy client into their private lives too much and girls in FKK appreciate that.
It is sales talk just like when you go and buy a car or shoes or clothes LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm not interested by Brasov for ski, when I can, unfortunately not on this winter and big miss and frustration for me, much more than not going to brothels, ski in extreme Verbier and still wild la Grave la Meije, when I can be alone for hours crossing Girose glacier 3500 meters high and back. I m more interested by a bit of intimacy which improve sex for my experience, but only in club, not more.
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[QUOTE=Rondega978;2446504]Sorry but can you tell me what job can make a girl that work 2 weeks abroad (D, AUT or CH) and 2 weeks at home?
And a girl without education how she can have a job in the, AUT or CH without speaking German that allowed her in only 2 weeks to go back to their village with Gucci, L&V. To buy present for all family and if the girl is clever after 6-7 months to buy a small apartment?
Romanian are sly, the immediately understand what their neighbor or daughter make abroad.
Make a German can believe that her daughter is working in office somewhere but not a Romanian.[/QUOTE]Well, some may suspect it, but that don't mean girls like to openly let people know about it. Most of them hide what they do in Germany, they often say they work in restaurants or in event companies. Thats what one hungarian girls say during the chat, not romanian girl I heard this from. As slimy as it sound, these girls will not say they work in brothel in Germany in their home town, most of time small towns. Also some pimps use this info to control girls too.
But look, I don't care, I am in FKK to fuck girls and I am not so interested about their private lives too much. I don't mind knowing the nationalities that I am fucking but that is where it stop for me. I am in FKK to fuck, not to get to know girls, I do that with my private lives with friends and girls in FKK is not my friends, or at least they are temporary friends who I meet and fuck in FKK and gone forever soon or later. Thats the beauty of FKK, no string attached. I do miss some girls who left, but it is sex with them that I miss and not them.
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Of course, better, girls don't say they make such big fast money being fucked by everybody, I always advice them to never say, sometimes they really need to tell, to put off stress and pressure, but in poor Romania where no money, playing blind is easiest way, not thinking about where come from this money. I remember to hear, I think it was at Sharks, a Romanian mother came and entered in the lounge to get her daughter, I imagine the shock for the mother looking around for her daughter among other girls and guys, both were crying, but this mother has all my respect, trying to protect her daughter, even she is more than 18 yo, rather than waiting for her money. In Romania, peste / pimp or some girls give the way to brothels, or even drive them, even sometimes being daily taxi and living from girls money. At LR, Gigi pimped Daria and Karina for 50 per day, she made 100 from them because she brought them to brothel, same for Hungarian Elektra at GT making 50 from another Hungarian. This business became cultural in Romania, same in some parts of Bulgaria but less people in Bulgaria than in Romania and Bulgarians are more in very cheap paid sex like AO RTC in Germany. And for us, in Germany, NL and Spain, we are lucky to have poor Romanians who work for 40 or 50 €/30 mn, many Globe girls worked for such cheap rate, if we didn't have Romanians, German girls would not anymore work for this rate, so we can thank Romanians to have cheap rate paid sex in Germany, more for 60/30 in Spain, 70/30 in Austria, and now when Globe level of looks fell, can find few who can compete with the prettiest at Globe, in Germany for cheap rate.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2446661]Of course, better, girls don't say they make such big fast money being fucked by everybody, I always advice them to never say, sometimes they really need to tell, to put off stress and pressure, but in poor Romania where no money, playing blind is easiest way, not thinking about where come from this money. I remember to hear, I think it was at Sharks, a Romanian mother came and entered in the lounge to get her daughter, I imagine the shock for the mother looking around for her daughter among other girls and guys, both were crying, but this mother has all my respect, trying to protect her daughter, even she is more than 18 yo, rather than waiting for her money. In Romania, peste / pimp or some girls give the way to brothels, or even drive them, even sometimes being daily taxi and living from girls money. At LR, Gigi pimped Daria and Karina for 50 per day, she made 100 from them because she brought them to brothel, same for Hungarian Elektra at GT making 50 from another Hungarian. This business became cultural in Romania, same in some parts of Bulgaria but less people in Bulgaria than in Romania and Bulgarians are more in very cheap paid sex like AO RTC in Germany. And for us, in Germany, NL and Spain, we are lucky to have poor Romanians who work for 40 or 50 /30 mn, many Globe girls worked for such cheap rate, if we didn't have Romanians, German girls would not anymore work for this rate, so we can thank Romanians to have cheap rate paid sex in Germany, more for 60/30 in Spain, 70/30 in Austria, and now when Globe level of looks fell, can find few who can compete with the prettiest at Globe, in Germany for cheap rate.[/QUOTE]Can you imagine if instead in a German FKK she had come to a public fuck day in Globe at Tuesday watching her daughter being banged on the stage maybe from 2 men?
This mother has my respect, she is really a mother.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2446661]Of course, better, girls don't say they make such big fast money being fucked by everybody, I always advice them to never say, sometimes they really need to tell, to put off stress and pressure, but in poor Romania where no money, playing blind is easiest way, not thinking about where come from this money. I remember to hear, I think it was at Sharks, a Romanian mother came and entered in the lounge to get her daughter, I imagine the shock for the mother looking around for her daughter among other girls and guys, both were crying, but this mother has all my respect, trying to protect her daughter, even she is more than 18 yo, rather than waiting for her money. In Romania, peste / pimp or some girls give the way to brothels, or even drive them, even sometimes being daily taxi and living from girls money. At LR, Gigi pimped Daria and Karina for 50 per day, she made 100 from them because she brought them to brothel, same for Hungarian Elektra at GT making 50 from another Hungarian. This business became cultural in Romania, same in some parts of Bulgaria but less people in Bulgaria than in Romania and Bulgarians are more in very cheap paid sex like AO RTC in Germany. And for us, in Germany, NL and Spain, we are lucky to have poor Romanians who work for 40 or 50 /30 mn, many Globe girls worked for such cheap rate, if we didn't have Romanians, German girls would not anymore work for this rate, so we can thank Romanians to have cheap rate paid sex in Germany, more for 60/30 in Spain, 70/30 in Austria, and now when Globe level of looks fell, can find few who can compete with the prettiest at Globe, in Germany for cheap rate.[/QUOTE]That's a really sad, heartbreaking, story. Poverty really is the worst. I think there is a real case for a Basic Universal Income which many European countries are looking into. Hopefully, it will be a practical thing soon so that everyone can live a respectable life without poor women having to sell themselves just to survive. Richer German girls who do it out of choice-- that's a different issue. (I know, I know it would mean less beautiful women for people like us but I think its worth sacrificing my lust a bit if it means poor people can get dignity.)
Actually, I don't blame the women who do this at all. I blame the governments for not ensuring there's enough money for all citizens to live a decent life.
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2446751]That's a really sad, heartbreaking, story. Poverty really is the worst. I think there is a real case for a Basic Universal Income which many European countries are looking into. Hopefully, it will be a practical thing soon so that everyone can live a respectable life without poor women having to sell themselves just to survive. Richer German girls who do it out of choice-- that's a different issue. (I know, I know it would mean less beautiful women for people like us but I think its worth sacrificing my lust a bit if it means poor people can get dignity.)
Actually, I don't blame the women who do this at all. I blame the governments for not ensuring there's enough money for all citizens to live a decent life.[/QUOTE]I agree with Ronde, this girl is lucky to have such courageous mother who wants so much to protect her, I can't imagine what mother thought when she entered about what could happen to her baby. Born poor think money is happiness, I was lucky not to be born poor, I had exceptional parents, but I know there are things more important than money: health, freedom, family. Only money for born poor, ready for anything for money, Romanian family playing blind selling daughter for money. German girls in brothels come from low level and lower level of education than most of Romanians. Luck for us to meet poor Romanians for cheap rate in Germany where as pretty girls as in Switzerland now. 1 hour for 100 € is one quite well paid week in Romania. 500 € girls can make in a day, is 1 month for many in Romania.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2446661]Of course, better, girls don't say they make such big fast money being fucked by everybody, I always advice them to never say, sometimes they really need to tell, to put off stress and pressure, but in poor Romania where no money, playing blind is easiest way, not thinking about where come from this money. I remember to hear, I think it was at Sharks, a Romanian mother came and entered in the lounge to get her daughter, I imagine the shock for the mother looking around for her daughter among other girls and guys, both were crying, but this mother has all my respect, trying to protect her daughter, even she is more than 18 yo, rather than waiting for her money. In Romania, peste / pimp or some girls give the way to brothels, or even drive them, even sometimes being daily taxi and living from girls money. At LR, Gigi pimped Daria and Karina for 50 per day, she made 100 from them because she brought them to brothel, same for Hungarian Elektra at GT making 50 from another Hungarian. This business became cultural in Romania, same in some parts of Bulgaria but less people in Bulgaria than in Romania and Bulgarians are more in very cheap paid sex like AO RTC in Germany. And for us, in Germany, NL and Spain, we are lucky to have poor Romanians who work for 40 or 50 /30 mn, many Globe girls worked for such cheap rate, if we didn't have Romanians, German girls would not anymore work for this rate, so we can thank Romanians to have cheap rate paid sex in Germany, more for 60/30 in Spain, 70/30 in Austria, and now when Globe level of looks fell, can find few who can compete with the prettiest at Globe, in Germany for cheap rate.[/QUOTE]Well you are the demand side who is fucking girls for money, and people like you who claim to go every weekend is the reason why Pimps are doing this, and myself included in same category as you and other mongers.
Whether you like to rationalize your act or not, we are all in the same cave as pimp, we thrive in this life cycle of pimping.
It is emotional story about Sharks, but this one is hard to believe because how did mother found out about sharks, it is in rather remote garage area and yes woman can enter the FKK, but how did poor family whose daughter had to work in brothel in Germany managed to come all the way to sharks with most likely with limited cash and language skill.
I thank pimps because of them we are fucking these girls as we want. It does not mean I treat girls bad, I get what I want sexually and I pay for it, but I do realize that I am demand and aggressor of this pimp life cycle. And same with you siri, you just seem to think just you are in normal bar rather than brothel LOL.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2446578]Well, some may suspect it, but that don't mean girls like to openly let people know about it. Most of them hide what they do in Germany, they often say they work in restaurants or in event companies.[/QUOTE]From what I know most hide it as best as they can from their parents. There are not many fathers out there who want to accept that daddy's little princess is sucking dick for money.
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Romanian Girls at Home
Many of us can hold 2 contradictory thoughts in our head at the same time. Also, it is possible to know something without 'knowing' it.
This seems to me how it is for FKK girls in Ro. Everybody sees their money so they 99 percent 'know' that the girl works as prostitute. But, while it is not actually spoken as a fact, everybody can act normal and not know it.
Don't ask, don't tell.
See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2446939]Well you are the demand side who is fucking girls for money, and people like you who claim to go every weekend is the reason why Pimps are doing this, and myself included in same category as you and other mongers.
Whether you like to rationalize your act or not, we are all in the same cave as pimp, we thrive in this life cycle of pimping.
It is emotional story about Sharks, but this one is hard to believe because how did mother found out about sharks, it is in rather remote garage area and yes woman can enter the FKK, but how did poor family whose daughter had to work in brothel in Germany managed to come all the way to sharks with most likely with limited cash and language skill.
I thank pimps because of them we are fucking these girls as we want. It does not mean I treat girls bad, I get what I want sexually and I pay for it, but I do realize that I am demand and aggressor of this pimp life cycle. And same with you siri, you just seem to think just you are in normal bar rather than brothel LOL.[/QUOTE]I disagree, pimps are for little to no use. There is simply no need for them. The girls can work in clubs without having one, they can find clubs by words spreading, and so on.
Yes, there is some initial money required for traveling, but this seems to be the only added value a pimp gives. But that can be substituted for sure.
The downside of pimps: they want to earn as much as possible so quite some girls are pushed to offer more services and work more often and longer. The result is obvious, girls are burned faster and quit.
Just my 2 cents.
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[QUOTE=Dubner32;2446996]Many of us can hold 2 contradictory thoughts in our head at the same time. Also, it is possible to know something without 'knowing' it.
This seems to me how it is for FKK girls in Ro. Everybody sees their money so they 99 percent 'know' that the girl works as prostitute. But, while it is not actually spoken as a fact, everybody can act normal and not know it.
Don't ask, don't tell.
See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.[/QUOTE]It's so obvious, I really couldn't believe that there is people who really believe that parents ignore or believe what their daughter say.
The why live with the salary of the girl.
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[QUOTE=Dubner32;2446996]Many of us can hold 2 contradictory thoughts in our head at the same time. Also, it is possible to know something without 'knowing' it.
This seems to me how it is for FKK girls in Ro. Everybody sees their money so they 99 percent 'know' that the girl works as prostitute. But, while it is not actually spoken as a fact, everybody can act normal and not know it.
Don't ask, don't tell.
See no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.[/QUOTE]This is called playing blind and easier game. Guys who live with prostitutes know they are fucked by everybody, but prefer not to think about, but more about money. If my girlfriend has sex with other guys, I would leave her.
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[QUOTE=RealZoom;2447028]I disagree, pimps are for little to no use. There is simply no need for them. The girls can work in clubs without having one, they can find clubs by words spreading, and so on.
Yes, there is some initial money required for traveling, but this seems to be the only added value a pimp gives. But that can be substituted for sure.
The downside of pimps: they want to earn as much as possible so quite some girls are pushed to offer more services and work more often and longer. The result is obvious, girls are burned faster and quit.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Also some FKK girls pimping new girls.
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[QUOTE=RealZoom;2447028]
The downside of pimps: they want to earn as much as possible so quite some girls are pushed to offer more services and work more often and longer. The result is obvious, girls are burned faster and quit.
[/QUOTE]Salaam RealZoom,
I absolutely agree. If a girl is coming through some kind of "system," she is going to be demoralized. In fact she is likely the kind of girl who didn't really like the job in the first place. And the pimp will constantly be reinforcing that mindset in her: "Don't get attached to any of the customers! Remember this is only about money! Those guys are just suckers for us!
It is the independent girls who are the high quality girls and who are capable of embodying the original spirit of the FKKs.
[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2446751]I think there is a real case for a Basic Universal Income which many European countries are looking into. Hopefully, it will be a practical thing soon so that everyone can live a respectable life without poor women having to sell themselves just to survive. Richer German girls who do it out of choice-- that's a different issue. (I know, I know it would mean less beautiful women for people like us but I think its worth sacrificing my lust a bit if it means poor people can get dignity.)
[/QUOTE]A lot of guys here will point out that UBI would result in a dramatic reduction in the supply and thus would be terrible for us mongers. It would certainly reduce the willingness of Romanian girls to get corralled into gangs and shipped to Germany and Switzerland. But I think UBI could potentially work [I]if[/I] it were combined with other measures to ensure that high quality women were replacing all the low quality women leaving. Like destigmatizing prostitution and reducing the horrible registration requirement.