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[QUOTE=PuteNut;2405695]2005 you could still get BFs on Walking Street for just a bit over 1000. These are now 3 K (and tend to be shorter).

US minimum wage 2005-2019 has only gone from 5. 15 to 7. 25. Unless you have access to helicopter cash it's not cheaper.[/QUOTE]And using social media, you can still get good looking gals for 1500 easily. The game has changed, like it or not.

What percentage of mongers are making minimum wage? I mean, I hope not--this is not a poor mans game, if we are being honest. Money has always been the light to the moths, if you catch that metaphor.

[QUOTE=Psychman;2406182]And using social media, you can still get good looking gals for 1500 easily. The game has changed, like it or not.[/QUOTE]I pay 1100-1500 in HiSo. Irrelevant comparison as cutting out the middleman means no bar cut in the sales price. I paid like 300-800 in 2005 for direct purchases, texting worked great already back then.

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What percentage of mongers are making minimum wage? I mean, I hope not--this is not a poor mans game, if we are being honest. [/QUOTE]I think most forum readers can work out that that was the baseline US minimum pay change during which period the BFs tripled, for comparison. Not suggesting that flipping burgers is the best way to get your hot dog between the legs of flips.

[QUOTE=Psychman;2406182]And using social media, you can still get good looking gals for 1500 easily. The game has changed, like it or not.

What percentage of mongers are making minimum wage? I mean, I hope not--this is not a poor mans game, if we are being honest. Money has always been the light to the moths, if you catch that metaphor.[/QUOTE]Judging by so many posts you would think quite a few work at minimum wage. Some are retired at $1200 a month.

What's funny is most want to pay the absolute minimum they can get away with and believe they are deservingly so to do so. I wonder if they ever happily worked for minimum wage?

BTW, everyone works for money. It takes money to live.

The law of supply and demand rules.

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What's funny is most want to pay the absolute minimum they can get away with and believe they are deservingly so to do so. I wonder if they ever happily worked for minimum wage?
[/QUOTE]There's nothing wrong with flipping burgers at minimum wage. If you have any ambition at all you will soon be branch manager, else it's your own choice to keep on flippin'.

The only reason I mentionened minimum wage was to establish a baseline reference, but it seems hard to drive home the point.

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The law of supply and demand rules.[/QUOTE]Actually it does not. The presence of a minimum wage law distorts it.

BTW being a matapobre is usually not something low end filipinas will appreciate.

[QUOTE=PuteNut;2406539]There's nothing wrong with flipping burgers at minimum wage. If you have any ambition at all you will soon be branch manager, else it's your own choice to keep on flippin'.

The only reason I mentionened minimum wage was to establish a baseline reference, but it seems hard to drive home the point.

Actually it does not. The presence of a minimum wage law distorts it.

BTW being a matapobre is usually not something low end filipinas will appreciate.[/QUOTE]I never said there was something wrong with flipping burgers at minimum wage.

Minimum wage is minimum wage. Just a number established by the government. No REAL relationship or rational to anything other than determined by politics at the time.

The law of supply and demand is the law. It governs in every country for every commodity. Especially in communist and or dictator run countries with fixed prices.

[QUOTE=Diglerni;2406133]Agree and disagree. Yes there are many Koreans and now Chinese, but still plenty of great fun for whites. I spent 10 days there and never once found it hard to get a girl I found hot either at bar or HS. Yeah prices are a little higher, but where else in the world can you go get GFE for 30-60 bucks. It might be because I'm younger and in shape, but I had hot girls throwing themselves at me. I got no issues giving a girl 2-3 k if her service is stellar.[/QUOTE]Everything we experienced back 20-30-even 40 yrs ago is still available to us now in 2020. The only difference is the cost of entertainment. There are still total nude clubs in AC just got to know where to find them and willing to pay the premium to enter. There is still girls that will stay with you longtime overnight or for your whole trip of 3 weeks, you just have to keep them supplied with money and food and they be there for you. GFE is for sale and they will give it to you no problems. Fact is feed a girl enough food and money they will even fall in love with you forever and you never get rid of them (At least till the money stops flowing). Its all how you look at things. The level of good time you wish to have increases the cost you will have to pay. To anyone wanting a good time in AC proper expect to budget 10,000 MIN per day on entertainment. This does not include your food and lodging. If you wish to be a cheap charlie that's your choice you can do that too. BUT don't expect to receive any attention in the bars from the girls. You be sitting in the corner alone crying in your beer.

[QUOTE=AussieGaigin;2406149]It is not a "tourist invasion" you have to worry about. Wait till the Chinese developers move in and start buying up land and putting up buildings, as has been reportedly happening in Thailand, Vietnam, etc.[/QUOTE]Going to be interesting next 10 years to see who money will gain the strong hold in the Clark area. Pop a San Magoo and Enjoy the show.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2406150]It's happening here too in the major cities. Perhaps the Chinese acquisitive lust just hasn't yet hit Angeles, but it will.

GE.[/QUOTE]I heard the very huge shopping mall being built along perimeter Road here is Chinese money so they are in AC now.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2406550]Everything we experienced back 20-30-even 40 yrs ago is still available to us now in 2020. The only difference is the cost of entertainment. There are still total nude clubs in AC just got to know where to find them and willing to pay the premium to enter. There is still girls that will stay with you longtime overnight or for your whole trip of 3 weeks, you just have to keep them supplied with money and food and they be there for you. GFE is for sale and they will give it to you no problems. Fact is feed a girl enough food and money they will even fall in love with you forever and you never get rid of them (At least till the money stops flowing). Its all how you look at things. The level of good time you wish to have increases the cost you will have to pay. To anyone wanting a good time in AC proper expect to budget 10,000 MIN per day on entertainment. This does not include your food and lodging. If you wish to be a cheap charlie that's your choice you can do that too. BUT don't expect to receive any attention in the bars from the girls. You be sitting in the corner alone crying in your beer.[/QUOTE]10 k a day, now that's baller status. I was getting by around 5-6 k a day and that includes the long time of 3 k over night with a girl. I don't really drink and I eat fairly cheap as well. I got no problem with a lady drink or 2 but it's straight to business. If you can stand to stay up late, HS is a great option. This last trip I found some great perimeter bars were no Koreans and bar fines still 2500. Got to find the diamond in the rough, but they do exist. I used to be all about anywhere is Thailand but now everything is so transactional there. AC is still my go to to still feel loved LOL.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2406554]I heard the very huge shopping mall being built along perimeter Road here is Chinese money so they are in AC now.[/QUOTE]Where is this huge shopping mall being built on Perimeter Road? Who will it cater to?

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2406550]Everything we experienced back 20-30-even 40 yrs ago is still available to us now in 2020. The only difference is the cost of entertainment. Its all how you look at things. The level of good time you wish to have increases the cost you will have to pay. To anyone wanting a good time in AC proper expect to budget 10,000 MIN per day on entertainment. This does not include your food and lodging. If you wish to be a cheap charlie that's your choice you can do that too. BUT don't expect to receive any attention in the bars from the girls. You be sitting in the corner alone crying in your beer.[/QUOTE]Interesting logic. Bit like saying yeah you can have a brand new top level sports car just like 40 years ago. Only you just have to pay more.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2406550] ...................If you wish to be a cheap charlie that's your choice you can do that too. BUT don't expect to receive any attention in the bars from the girls. You be sitting in the corner alone crying in your beer.[/QUOTE]Good one, I like it!

How dare anyone deny their riches to the poor people of the Philippines. You will pay a high price, if you do that (LOL).

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2406571]Where is this huge shopping mall being built on Perimeter Road? Who will it cater to?[/QUOTE]It's opposite Lewis Grand Hotel, next to the Honda Dealer.

[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2406550]To anyone wanting a good time in AC proper expect to budget 10,000 MIN per day on entertainment. [/QUOTE]Damn Big Baller. I have had some good times in AC and I don't think I have ever even spent 10,000 pesos in 3 days INCLUDING hotel and food. That initial 10,000 that I take out of the ATM at NAIA tends to last me quite a while. Could you break down for us what you are spending 10,000 in 1 day on?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2406698]Damn Big Baller. I have had some good times in AC and I don't think I have ever even spent 10,000 pesos in 3 days INCLUDING hotel and food. That initial 10,000 that I take out of the ATM at NAIA tends to last me quite a while. Could you break down for us what you are spending 10,000 in 1 day on?[/QUOTE]I second it. If one is ready to spent 100 Dollars a night you can have a wonderful evening in AC. My budget is 3000 to 4000 peso per night and I get everything out of it. If one is capable of spending 10000 per night he is king.